I’m freaking hooked you guys have the best video with the most amount of knowledge. I have an 18 hour ride to TEXPLEX on the 28th I’m going to geek out on all your videos the whole way do it lol! I know you doing your shocks is the biggest factor in going fast.
Stock pro xp walker evans that are still stock should I set the rear adjustments first and then copy on the front start with the front and copy on the back or do each individually and start with which set
Thankyou! M.R.S.G. Jason ( Master Racing Suspension Guru) Thankyou for the Wealth of information you share w/ Us! Idk if people Realize the years of Racing info & Hardnocks that you carry around & Share! That in Most Competitive Racing is Highly Guarded & Considered Paying Your Due's! I am a Master Tech & use to Train New techs for Gm! I must say you are an Excellent teacher one of the Best i've Ever seen & Very Knowledgeable & the kind of knowledge & experience that doesnt come Cheap or Easy! Hence the name M.R.S.G! Earned Not Givin! Thankyou Again for Sharing your Guru level Knowledge w/ All of Us! Keep Up the Great Work Sir!
Great Vid - How do you tell if your cross over rings heights are set correctly - what are the symptoms if they are not and what are you looking for if they are correct.
At ride height there should be an inch to an inch and a half gap from the divider to crossover up front, and about 2 in the rear. If they are too low your car will buck because the lower spring is engaging too soon
Could you set it by being full out on the high speed. Then raise the rings until you get bottoming out. Then either bring in some high speed or begin to lower them again. ?
Great and informative video overall i loved it Just wanted to know are you guys selling that shock setting adjuster tool/beer opener i cant find it any were jaja
Have a question. I have a 2018 XRS. I have your spring kit on it but I’ve not done any calving yet. I took your advice and opened up all of the adjustments and I am tuning it with every ride. A place that I’m finding trouble is jumping. When I jump certain things I get the perfect takeoff and landing but sometimes I get a lot of rear, end kick or front and collapse on the takeoff which ends up being almost a nose dive to a head roll landing. Is this rebound? And rear end rebound?
It is actually a lot of things. It’s usually jump lip choice. But if it’s not the lip the it can be rear rebound too fast. Rear cross over too low. Front rebound too slow. Front compression too soft or front cross over too high. Make sure you are at least half throttle as you leave the ramp. 👍🏼
Here is a baseline. Front HSC two turns. LSC one turn. Rebound 6 clicks Rear HSC 1 turn. LSC one turn. Rebound 12 clicks. All adjustments start all the way soft as zero turns and all the way hard as four turns. Adjust the HSC half a turn at a time stiffer to stop any bottoming out. Good luck
So If I understand this; My high speed compression is set to 11.5 clicks (I think there is 12 total) and the car still bottoms out then I need to adjust my cross over a little shorter? That way I could lower the compression because the main spring engages sooner?
I have another question. How do the QS3 shocks on my XRC compare to the shocks on an XDS. I know they have more adjustability, but are they a lot better? Can my QS3 shocks be as good after you do all your magic to them? We are thinking about getting a 2nd Maverick and thinking about the XDS mainly for the suspension. I will add power so Im not really to worried about the power difference. Thanks for these great informative videos.
I recently ordered your DR springs for my stock 2018 XX what do I need to set the compression to? Soft, Firm, Hard? Thanks!! Can’t wait to install your springs!
Great video. Something you said got me thinking that I may ahve been doing something wrong. You said paddle pressure in the dunes to keep abou 10-12 or so. I have been keeping the pressure at about 6 ish on my paddles. Pretty much the same as I ran in my Liberty's. I have 32" paddles on a 210 HP X3. Should I have more pressure? Thanks
8 Fifteen Off-Road yes most definitely. The big problem we see with low pressure like that is people will bottom their rim out, meaning the tire will flex to the point of the rim hitting the ground and it makes it feel like it’s bottoming out
Hi, I have a 2019 RZR XP 4 Turbo, walker evans shocks. I weight 450 lbs and my passengers are 250 lbs and 175 lbs. i also have roof, bumpers, nerf bars and gear. Now my question is. Can i stay with my stock setup and have proper clearance. Because right now i am sitting at 10” unloaded and lower once I sit in it. If stock won’t do the trick will your springs do the trick. I contacted other conpanies and all said there heavy duty springs wouldn’t be enough for me. Also i do 80% trail riding and don’t jump. Maybe i would start jumping if I had the right setup
Quick question, when setting ride height, is there a difference between setting on a 72" to a 64" or do you try to achieve 16"-17" regardless of model. If so does the 64" suffer anything (regarding angles, more top heavy and such" since it's narrower.
The 72 is taller and the 64 is lower. The reason is the width and the tire height. Our ground clearance numbers on the 64 are about 14.5-15". If you have taller tires this will get higher. You will have negative handling issues if you raise a 64 too tall.
Could you do a video while out testing a vehicle on the whoops? Show what you are looking for on the actual vehicle as you would when tuning. Maybe even show the settings too high and too low and how that would look.
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks, after we thought about it a bit we realized you wouldnt really need it with IQS. You guys did a wonderful job on our car and really want to do the IQS upgrade. Great videos!!
Thanks for putting out all this great content over the past few weeks! It's been super interesting and informative! I'm trying to get my 2016 Rzr XP4 1000 set up a little better with what I have currently (hoping to upgrade to Shock Therapy DRS in the future). Stock Walker Evans shocks with stock valving and a Rzraid tender spring kit sitting on 31" tires with 5+2 wheels. Based on your instructions I'm thinking I should be at ~15" / 14.5" of ride height with me and my wife and all tools/cooler in the vehicle correct? I had to crank the preload rings down quite a bit to get it to that height; is there any downside or issues having them adjusted so far down? Any recommendations on starting point for the compression adjusters?
Your ride heights are good. The issue is that just a tender spring isn't enough to get the ride heights without too much pre load. So, as your car starts to lower due to the stock lower springs, you won't be able to get your ride height back. A full spring kit will cure this when your ready. Start with all your compression adjusters soft and turn them stiffer two clicks at a time until the car does not bottom out any more. Then your good. Good luck.
Think the title of the video could be a little more broad. “Setting adjusters” seems a little smaller scope than what you have in the video. Did #nochase choose that title? Ha.
This is fantastic content, I am learning so much clearly and simply about a topic that is hard to find accessible information on!
Thank You!
Teacher once again thank you for all this FREE KNOWLEDGE!! Most can’t grasp what their hearing or know what their getting. Thank you
Thank you so much for the information and making it come to life with the whiteboard!
I’m freaking hooked you guys have the best video with the most amount of knowledge. I have an 18 hour ride to TEXPLEX on the 28th I’m going to geek out on all your videos the whole way do it lol! I know you doing your shocks is the biggest factor in going fast.
Your videos are awesome. Very thorough. Keep them coming. Sending my shocks in to have revalved and might buy springs too.
Yes please put the adjusters on your site again I need a few :)
Stock pro xp walker evans that are still stock should I set the rear adjustments first and then copy on the front start with the front and copy on the back or do each individually and start with which set
This video helped me so much with tuning my car!! I was tuned in live👊 Thank you to the entire Shock Therapy team! #NOCHASE 🤙
Is that adjustment tool on the website?
Thankyou! M.R.S.G. Jason
( Master Racing Suspension Guru) Thankyou for the Wealth of information you share w/ Us! Idk if people Realize the years of Racing info & Hardnocks that you carry around & Share! That in Most Competitive Racing is Highly Guarded & Considered Paying Your Due's! I am a Master Tech & use to Train New techs for Gm! I must say you are an Excellent teacher one of the Best i've Ever seen & Very Knowledgeable & the kind of knowledge & experience that doesnt come Cheap or Easy! Hence the name M.R.S.G! Earned Not Givin! Thankyou Again for Sharing your Guru level Knowledge w/ All of Us! Keep Up the Great Work Sir!
You sir are very kind. Thank you.
Great Vid - How do you tell if your cross over rings heights are set correctly - what are the symptoms if they are not and what are you looking for if they are correct.
At ride height there should be an inch to an inch and a half gap from the divider to crossover up front, and about 2 in the rear. If they are too low your car will buck because the lower spring is engaging too soon
@@ShockTherapyllc What happens if the crossover is to high?
@@BPJeep No bucking but it will bottom out easier.
Could you set it by being full out on the high speed. Then raise the rings until you get bottoming out. Then either bring in some high speed or begin to lower them again. ?
What about front adjustments. Thank you so much for all the videos lately.
Great and informative video overall i loved it
Just wanted to know are you guys selling that shock setting adjuster tool/beer opener i cant find it any were jaja
We used to but it’s too expensive to make so we stopped.
Have a question. I have a 2018 XRS. I have your spring kit on it but I’ve not done any calving yet. I took your advice and opened up all of the adjustments and I am tuning it with every ride. A place that I’m finding trouble is jumping. When I jump certain things I get the perfect takeoff and landing but sometimes I get a lot of rear, end kick or front and collapse on the takeoff which ends up being almost a nose dive to a head roll landing. Is this rebound? And rear end rebound?
It is actually a lot of things. It’s usually jump lip choice. But if it’s not the lip the it can be rear rebound too fast. Rear cross over too low. Front rebound too slow. Front compression too soft or front cross over too high. Make sure you are at least half throttle as you leave the ramp. 👍🏼
@@ShockTherapyllc thank you. Will play around with that.
Loving this channel. wish you had more products for atvs. Currently dont own a SxS however I will next year.
Can you send a link to what settings I should be running on the stock shocks on my 2020 RZR XP PRO base model?
Awesome. Maybe a follow up video on the low speed adjusts using the white board and any differences with the front suspension ( actions vs reaction ).
Is changing oil weight comparable in importance to other shock adjustments and springs with shocks with limited abilities like the walker velocitys?
Would be great if there was a general setting for the rc2 fox for a 2 seat xp turbo. I'm a big guy and kinda hard to dial them in correctly.
Here is a baseline. Front HSC two turns. LSC one turn. Rebound 6 clicks
Rear HSC 1 turn. LSC one turn. Rebound 12 clicks.
All adjustments start all the way soft as zero turns and all the way hard as four turns.
Adjust the HSC half a turn at a time stiffer to stop any bottoming out. Good luck
So If I understand this; My high speed compression is set to 11.5 clicks (I think there is 12 total) and the car still bottoms out then I need to adjust my cross over a little shorter? That way I could lower the compression because the main spring engages sooner?
I have another question. How do the QS3 shocks on my XRC compare to the shocks on an XDS. I know they have more adjustability, but are they a lot better? Can my QS3 shocks be as good after you do all your magic to them? We are thinking about getting a 2nd Maverick and thinking about the XDS mainly for the suspension. I will add power so Im not really to worried about the power difference. Thanks for these great informative videos.
I recently ordered your DR springs for my stock 2018 XX what do I need to set the compression to? Soft, Firm, Hard?
Thanks!! Can’t wait to install your springs!
outdoorzone we always send everything out on full soft and it’s up to you to make adjustments to compression to fit your needs/liking
Great video. Something you said got me thinking that I may ahve been doing something wrong. You said paddle pressure in the dunes to keep abou 10-12 or so. I have been keeping the pressure at about 6 ish on my paddles. Pretty much the same as I ran in my Liberty's. I have 32" paddles on a 210 HP X3. Should I have more pressure? Thanks
8 Fifteen Off-Road yes most definitely. The big problem we see with low pressure like that is people will bottom their rim out, meaning the tire will flex to the point of the rim hitting the ground and it makes it feel like it’s bottoming out
Hi, I have a 2019 RZR XP 4 Turbo, walker evans shocks. I weight 450 lbs and my passengers are 250 lbs and 175 lbs. i also have roof, bumpers, nerf bars and gear. Now my question is. Can i stay with my stock setup and have proper clearance. Because right now i am sitting at 10” unloaded and lower once I sit in it. If stock won’t do the trick will your springs do the trick. I contacted other conpanies and all said there heavy duty springs wouldn’t be enough for me. Also i do 80% trail riding and don’t jump. Maybe i would start jumping if I had the right setup
I think hyperco makes custom springs
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Quick question, when setting ride height, is there a difference between setting on a 72" to a 64" or do you try to achieve 16"-17" regardless of model. If so does the 64" suffer anything (regarding angles, more top heavy and such" since it's narrower.
The 72 is taller and the 64 is lower. The reason is the width and the tire height. Our ground clearance numbers on the 64 are about 14.5-15". If you have taller tires this will get higher. You will have negative handling issues if you raise a 64 too tall.
Could you do a video while out testing a vehicle on the whoops? Show what you are looking for on the actual vehicle as you would when tuning. Maybe even show the settings too high and too low and how that would look.
Great idea it just can’t be live so we will work on that as an edited video
Do you loose low-speed compression adjustment with IQS?
yes
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks, after we thought about it a bit we realized you wouldnt really need it with IQS. You guys did a wonderful job on our car and really want to do the IQS upgrade. Great videos!!
Awesome content. Great videos!
great video
Great video👍
Thanks for putting out all this great content over the past few weeks! It's been super interesting and informative!
I'm trying to get my 2016 Rzr XP4 1000 set up a little better with what I have currently (hoping to upgrade to Shock Therapy DRS in the future). Stock Walker Evans shocks with stock valving and a Rzraid tender spring kit sitting on 31" tires with 5+2 wheels. Based on your instructions I'm thinking I should be at ~15" / 14.5" of ride height with me and my wife and all tools/cooler in the vehicle correct? I had to crank the preload rings down quite a bit to get it to that height; is there any downside or issues having them adjusted so far down? Any recommendations on starting point for the compression adjusters?
Your ride heights are good. The issue is that just a tender spring isn't enough to get the ride heights without too much pre load. So, as your car starts to lower due to the stock lower springs, you won't be able to get your ride height back. A full spring kit will cure this when your ready. Start with all your compression adjusters soft and turn them stiffer two clicks at a time until the car does not bottom out any more. Then your good. Good luck.
I need some new stickers, one has peeled off my door! Waaaaa no really I need a couple! Love my new shocks!
GO TALON give us a call!
I will I was just messin with you, love these videos so much new information to absorb! Thanks!
Think the title of the video could be a little more broad. “Setting adjusters” seems a little smaller scope than what you have in the video. Did #nochase choose that title? Ha.
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Sorry I’m a little late. #NoChase
It is a movement! rock on #nochase