Much appreciated Myman. I ended up re-tuning this shock, which should be the next video scheduled to release. It had a digressive Tune, which didn't work out for the frame I put it on, so I changed it to a linear tune. I planned on making one video out of the whole job but figured it would be too long, so I made two videos, one to service the shock, which should be helpful for more people, and the other to tune it, which I have to assume will help a very small group of people. More videos to come 👍
@zoubtube any clue about how to tell if a frame geometry is progressive or linear? I found some info about it online but not sure I can decipher it haha. I have a 2022 mondraker raze r and no clue if it'd be better suited to a progressive vs linear rear shock setup.
Haha, good timing. Just got my axs seatpost apart, and this happens to be the shock I run on my bike, so what a convenient coincidence. Going to throw the linear xl air can on mine soon and see how that rides
Hopefully the video helps out. If you find any issues with in it while serving your shock can you let me know so I can adjust in future videos. thanks 👍
YUP! The plan is to make videos on as many model and years fork, shock etc as I can over time. The sid luxe is relatively popular around here, but chances are I won't be working on one until seasons end, unless someone has an issue with there's before that
Great job , thanks . Just got RS-SDLX-C2 ,came with extra air can, I don’t get what the difference is. Cannot find info, if you have a link that shows info
Thanks for the comment and for your time watching the video. There are 3 air cans for the c2. Progressive (Thinnest) , linear (fatter), and linear XL fattest. In a nutshell, the fatter the air can, the more air can go into it, the more it will feel like a spring shock. So the progressive can will progressively resist as you go deeper into the travel before bottoming out. Linear will more evenly go through the travel before bottoming out, and XL will be even but softer (plush). There is no "one better than the other" here. It really depends on your riding style, the trials you ride on, and what feels better for you overall. I would test both. The most important thing is to make sure you get the SAG right for each, as there will be different air pressures required. Do you know which two you have?
@@zoubtube ok, i have one can that is the same diameter almost to the bottom then tapers off, looking like a bullet, This would be progressive?? The other 35mm before the bottom of the can gets fatter ( diameter from 44mm to 47mm ) this would be linear?? Is the XL the MEG CAN ?? Really would like to understand this. Thanks
@@rg8707 The one that is more tapered at has the larger square areas near the wiper side is the linear. the one that is less tapered and has has smaller squares areas near the wiper side, and it should look visibly thinner, is the progressive. the XL is larger in every way and has no square areas near the wiper, its all round
This came at the perfect time! I just did a service on the deluxe select+ RT c1 and it was working for about a week and then today I noticed that there was oil coming out of the top of the shock out of the screw holes. It now also makes a horrible noise when it compresses. Any idea on what could be the issue?
It sounds like your damper shaft seal has leaked and oil is making its way into the eyelet. I originally planned on adding this service to this video but decided not to as I thought it would make the video too long, and to make a separate video on servicing the eyelet, which includes the shaft. Below is a link to the Eyelet service. I basically ended this video at the point of starting the Eyelet service. You will see the shaft im talking about on page 11. Not a hard job but does involve a few extra steps. Hopefully this helps for now www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-eyelet-and-damper-shaft-replacement-service-manual-english.pdf?__woopraid=ee7syj4kq6dR
Too many variables on that one. It really depends on the frame design, if the tune in the shock is compatible with the frame design, etc. This is something you never hear TH-cam "reviewers" mention. I do know this. BOTH are great shocks, but the deluxe is much easier to service, which imo, is the most important these days for the masses. If two similar class shocks are properly setup for a given frame, the chance is slim that the vast majority of people will notice a difference between them. But, I'd be willing to bet that just about everyone will feel the difference between a shock (or fork) that is regularly maintained and one that isn't. Also, if you decide to get a deluxe to compare to a dps on your frame, make sure the tune is similar to what the frame came with. Example, if the frame has a progressive design and came with a shock that has a linear tune, don't replace it with a shock that has a digressive tune. Details like this make all the difference.
Not exactly! I do agree, I didn't change them in THIS video, BUT, a separate video was made that includes servicing the dials and the seals you're referring to. I recorded it separately because those shaft seals really don't need to be serviced regularly, and if you're going to service them, you might as well service the dials, which require their own special tool. Plus, doing all this in this video would have made it way too long. I believe I even mentioned all this in this video. As for the lockout rod vs rebound rod, Yup! I tend to mix up terms occasionally when making these videos. SO many details to think of, so little brain cells left! 😵💫
@@zoubtube i work in work shop, when we do the 150-200h service we always change every oring. even those that are not included in the set. It has happened more than once that unreplaced O-rings leaked immediately after the service because, for example, the shock was in storage for 2 years before it was installed on the bike and the O-rings did not maintain the parameters. ;)
thank you making all these helpful videos!
Thank you for taking the time to watch them and for leaving a comment. Hopefully one of them will come in handy for you in the future 👍
@@zoubtube I repair multiple bikes. And my friends bikes. Your videos are always useful. Thanks again.
Legendary videos 😊
Much appreciated Myman. I ended up re-tuning this shock, which should be the next video scheduled to release. It had a digressive Tune, which didn't work out for the frame I put it on, so I changed it to a linear tune. I planned on making one video out of the whole job but figured it would be too long, so I made two videos, one to service the shock, which should be helpful for more people, and the other to tune it, which I have to assume will help a very small group of people. More videos to come 👍
@zoubtube any clue about how to tell if a frame geometry is progressive or linear? I found some info about it online but not sure I can decipher it haha. I have a 2022 mondraker raze r and no clue if it'd be better suited to a progressive vs linear rear shock setup.
Haha, good timing. Just got my axs seatpost apart, and this happens to be the shock I run on my bike, so what a convenient coincidence. Going to throw the linear xl air can on mine soon and see how that rides
Hopefully the video helps out. If you find any issues with in it while serving your shock can you let me know so I can adjust in future videos. thanks 👍
Will you do one on the sid LUXE in the future? cheers!
YUP! The plan is to make videos on as many model and years fork, shock etc as I can over time. The sid luxe is relatively popular around here, but chances are I won't be working on one until seasons end, unless someone has an issue with there's before that
@@zoubtube Great to hear thanks!
Great job , thanks . Just got RS-SDLX-C2 ,came with extra air can, I don’t get what the difference is. Cannot find info, if you have a link that shows info
Thanks for the comment and for your time watching the video. There are 3 air cans for the c2. Progressive (Thinnest) , linear (fatter), and linear XL fattest. In a nutshell, the fatter the air can, the more air can go into it, the more it will feel like a spring shock. So the progressive can will progressively resist as you go deeper into the travel before bottoming out. Linear will more evenly go through the travel before bottoming out, and XL will be even but softer (plush). There is no "one better than the other" here. It really depends on your riding style, the trials you ride on, and what feels better for you overall. I would test both. The most important thing is to make sure you get the SAG right for each, as there will be different air pressures required. Do you know which two you have?
@@zoubtube ok, i have one can that is the same diameter almost to the bottom then tapers off, looking like a bullet,
This would be progressive?? The other 35mm before the bottom of the can gets fatter ( diameter from 44mm to 47mm ) this would be linear?? Is the XL the MEG CAN ?? Really would like to understand this. Thanks
@@rg8707 The one that is more tapered at has the larger square areas near the wiper side is the linear. the one that is less tapered and has has smaller squares areas near the wiper side, and it should look visibly thinner, is the progressive. the XL is larger in every way and has no square areas near the wiper, its all round
This came at the perfect time! I just did a service on the deluxe select+ RT c1 and it was working for about a week and then today I noticed that there was oil coming out of the top of the shock out of the screw holes. It now also makes a horrible noise when it compresses. Any idea on what could be the issue?
It sounds like your damper shaft seal has leaked and oil is making its way into the eyelet. I originally planned on adding this service to this video but decided not to as I thought it would make the video too long, and to make a separate video on servicing the eyelet, which includes the shaft. Below is a link to the Eyelet service. I basically ended this video at the point of starting the Eyelet service. You will see the shaft im talking about on page 11. Not a hard job but does involve a few extra steps. Hopefully this helps for now
www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-eyelet-and-damper-shaft-replacement-service-manual-english.pdf?__woopraid=ee7syj4kq6dR
@@zoubtube thanks I appreciate it! I’ll take a look!
Is this rear shock more robust then a fox float dps performance?
Too many variables on that one. It really depends on the frame design, if the tune in the shock is compatible with the frame design, etc. This is something you never hear TH-cam "reviewers" mention. I do know this. BOTH are great shocks, but the deluxe is much easier to service, which imo, is the most important these days for the masses. If two similar class shocks are properly setup for a given frame, the chance is slim that the vast majority of people will notice a difference between them. But, I'd be willing to bet that just about everyone will feel the difference between a shock (or fork) that is regularly maintained and one that isn't.
Also, if you decide to get a deluxe to compare to a dps on your frame, make sure the tune is similar to what the frame came with. Example, if the frame has a progressive design and came with a shock that has a linear tune, don't replace it with a shock that has a digressive tune. Details like this make all the difference.
You forgot change oring on rebound shaft and air oring on main shaft. And this thing with hat its lockaut rod not reb rod
Not exactly! I do agree, I didn't change them in THIS video, BUT, a separate video was made that includes servicing the dials and the seals you're referring to. I recorded it separately because those shaft seals really don't need to be serviced regularly, and if you're going to service them, you might as well service the dials, which require their own special tool. Plus, doing all this in this video would have made it way too long. I believe I even mentioned all this in this video. As for the lockout rod vs rebound rod, Yup! I tend to mix up terms occasionally when making these videos. SO many details to think of, so little brain cells left! 😵💫
@@zoubtube i work in work shop, when we do the 150-200h service we always change every oring. even those that are not included in the set. It has happened more than once that unreplaced O-rings leaked immediately after the service because, for example, the shock was in storage for 2 years before it was installed on the bike and the O-rings did not maintain the parameters. ;)