We love having Jackie on as well! She is in a lot of our videos and will be in plenty more! Stay tuned! Great question temperature was in the 60s and we use Prov1x practice balls.
I just got fitted for the PXG 0211 9 degree. This this is a rocket launcher and I can keep it in play no problem. I just turned 60 and with this driver I carry it about 260 on average and just this month I have hit 4 drives over 310...which is unheard of for me! AND it was only $285!!!! Thanks for the videos!
@@454budman Hey Matt...yea, I love my PXG 0211 driver. I also love my 0211 5 wood (at my local course right now the fairways are a bit baked out but I hit a 270 yard 5 wood the other day...I am sure it only carried 220 but WOO HOO!!!). I am trying to talk my wife into letting me get an 0211 7 wood as well. I love my PXG irons, wedges and woods!
Just my opinion but after hitting 30-40 drives before hitting the Titleist, how much of her results were a function of warming up and ‘practicing’. Would the results be the same if she hit the PGX last? I think her dispersions would be much tighter towards the end regardless of the club.
All those drivers are $800 Canadian , except for the PXG I got for 400$ and that was with a 100$ shipping. PXG for the price hands down the best option .
@Brocked and Loaded It was a sale they had running for their previous generation drivers. I believe it is over now. I bought one and they canceled the order on me after I waited a week for it to arrive. I was unimpressed with their customer service and bought a Callaway Epic Flash during the Callaway Preowned winter sale
Yeah, if money isn't an issue the Tsi1 is a great option. Is it REALLY $200$300 better than a psg though? I am curious why they went with 12.5 degree and didn't lower it a tad to at least 11 degrees. Don't think many people use 12.5 do they?
How was Cobra not in the mix? It is so confusing why many comparisons leave them out when they are one of the best out there, if not the best. I finally gave in and stopped being a brand snob and tried the Cobra Speedzone Xtreme driver with a Hand Crafted Project X HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 shaft, and it was mind-blowing how good and consistent it was for me. The sound is amazing too. So much better than the last two drivers that I purchased because I wanted to stay with the bigger brands, Ping and Taylormade.
Having had ping, Ts, sim drivers but never found one I could rely on enough I recently tested and plumped fir the pxg proto x+ but interestingly went 12.5 degrees set at 11.5, with a great riptide cab shaft - finally getting the consistency and reliability I was looking for bAlso shaft length 44.5’. On;y club which did better distance wise but not dispersion wise as my trusty m2 though length of shaft was the reason for the last of tightness as the shaft was 45.75. Lots of lessons here re shaft, shaft length, degrees and tendencies. For me setting it 1 degree down is better as it opens the face slightly which is better fir me to hold off a tendency to pull.
It seems from your conversation that she doesn’t normally use a 12 degree driver, but rather a 10.5? Why did you guys test 12 degree drivers then? Seems with her swing speed in the low 90s, it would have been nice to see a comparo of 12 degree drivers to 10.5 or 9/9.5 degree drivers. Maybe the next review?
@@Sir_Godz Agreed…but then maybe get someone who usually uses a 12 degree driver to test them, which may not be possible…I think they mentioned one of the drivers only came in a 12 degree so that’s why they did 12 degrees…
Interesting that the lightest driver came out on top for dispersion and the heaviest was the worst yet longest driver. It would be interesting to know the swing weights and tot weights of the clubs tested to see if there is a dispersion correlation.
If your tester doesn’t normally play a 12* driver, seems somewhat pointless for her to test that loft. I understand the PXG availability was the deciding factor, does it not offer adjustments of loft? Maybe scrap the PXG if they can’t supply her ideal loft and add in the Mizuno and/or Exotics
Dispersion pattern is always the winner, that’s the TSi1. From there, as long as driver has adjustable hosel and weights, we can adjust MOI, lie and shaft to adapt to swing.
@@MichaelM-to4sg Tight dispersion that is always to the left is better then an average carry to the centerline of a fairway? lol. So you like to be 5 yards away from the trees on every left side of the fairway 10 out of 10 times or down the middle of a fairway 7 out of 10 times? You make no sense. Centerline is god in golf.
@@No_Fear_33 Centerline is not god in golf. Consistency and control is king. If I can replicate 5 drives in that tight of dispersion, I can score better. I rarely want to be dead center of fairway, I want to be placed in fairway where I can best attack on my approach. In the case of this test, I’m betting if she adjusted lie angle 1* flatter on TSi1, you’d see same tight dispersion right down centerline.
@@MichaelM-to4sg taking your what if scenario adjustments out. i bet ALWAYS to the left side of fairway does wonders for your dog leg left holes or left side bunkers and pond placements. lmao. centerlien is god, shape your shot from there if you can.
@@MichaelM-to4sg And i could say the same thing about adjusting weights to go 10 for 10 to the center line instead of 7 for 10. the BIGGEST difference is she is mostly centerline as is with the Sim2. it wouldnt be as dramatic of an adjustment as what you are suggesting to achieve the same thing. Hit it down the center of EVRY single fairway is EVERY single golfers dream 10 out of 10 times. im never wrong.
0211 is insanely cheap as of Oct 9-2022. $175( cad) shipped to your door x stiff tensei white 65g... What a steal. (119 usd on the us site ) sold out in the UK and eu
if i am looking to ultimately replace my clubs over the course of the next year or so, I was wondering if you all had any recommendations on what order I should go about getting fit for new clubs: (1) driver, (2) woods/hybrids, (3) irons, (4) wedges, (5) putter - all clubs are equally old
I’m doing a full bag upgrade this year after 10+ years of rarely playing. I took a driver lesson, worked on the new swing for 6 weeks, then got driver fitted. Putter fitting was next (biggest bang for $ since it’s the most used club). I’ll do irons in the fall, then wedges and finish with woods/hybrids. Do irons before woods/hybrids and wedges so you know what gaps you need to fill. I’ve tried some 7 irons already and will go back at least once more before I actually get fitted so I have a short list of 3-4 sets for the fitting. I’ll do the same with woods and hybrids. I also did two pre-fitting tests with putters since there are so many choices but still tried 6 different models at the fitting.
@@lindsaynewell6319 With the putter, what testing/fitting did you do? It's the most used but also the one I feel technology has the smallest influence on performance. Swing arc would be a big factor but was this measured for you? I've asked around my area but most indicate it's more of a 'feel' test.
@@FBTRodz7 I’ve spent a lot of time ‘tuning’ my putter during last Fall and this Spring. I had a putter head I felt comfortable w/look and it rolled well, I just wasn’t good outside 8’. I changed grips, shaft, lie angle and head weight. Biggest improvement for me was installing a lightweight composite shaft and playing w/lead tape. The much greater swing weight made longer lag putts less effort. Feeling where head is in stroke improved my consistency. It took several practice sessions to feel comfortable on shorter putts, particularly fast downhill putts. The other big improvement was a more upright lie that put my stance a bit closer to ball. These may or may not improve your putting, they were big helps to me; 33.4 putts/round to 31.2. The key takeaway is a new putter is often less the answer than tuning whatcha got.
@@FBTRodz7 My fit wasn't full high-tech with high speed video analysis of strike and loft (e.g. TXG putter fitting), but the laser alignment was a huge help. I have a very dominant left eye and even with corrective lenses, I was lined up 2 balls right of the hole on 10 foot putts. Just having an experienced fitter confirm or correct my assumptions about my stroke also helped. I feel like I got the best putter for me in terms of style, weight, shaft length, grip size, alignment aids etc. vs just doing it on my own. The $40 fitting cost was comped against the $250 purchase and the fitter spent an hour with me (PGA superstore Tour Van fitting).
@@mattwilliams3104 Except once they identify the best driver in dispersion, they can then adjust weights and shaft to reduce spin rate. Especially in case of TSi1, which is roughly 20g lower head mass than most heads. Finding the ideal shaft for such a light head, both shaft mass, counterweighting and flex characteristics becomes more critical. The other 4 heads are 290-300g, the Ping 425 Max LS is close to 310g. The TSi1 is 272g. Using same shaft, while understandable is a head-head comparison, is losing some of the benefits made possible by a low mass head.
@@Foregrlz The weights I stated are for built clubs, not just heads. Callaway states the Epic Max head is 207g. Not as heavy as Ping G425Max but still quite massive, especially compared to TSi1. Callaway recently announced a new driver design, the Epic Star Max, aimed at same ‘senior’ market as TSi1, its head is 52g lighter than Epic Max!! While I understand targeting the senior market with premium products, these new superlight heads will be interesting how they workout. If used by fast swingers looking for increased swing speed, will that result in fatigue failures and will oe warrant those failures? Is this reduced mass also reducing moi of head thus resulting in less forgiving on mishits? How much will the reduced swing mass increase swing speed and will that be sufficient to overcome loss in force due to reduction in head mass. In summation, I think this affluent senior golfer market is in its infancy and some growing pains are on horizon. For example, a low mass heads makes sense from an effort/strength/flexibility standpoint but the reduced force at impact may be too detrimental to be overcome by slight increase in head velocity. Why not offer these heads in non-COR compliant face? I’d also like to see lower compression ‘hotter’ ball for slower swing speed seniors.
I dont think these are fair test. To many variables in her swing. Put all these heads on a robot swing and check the numbers. Only way to get a true feedback I think.
wow the cheapest driver won , way to go PXG :) guess what all of the PXG drives would be on an average fairway , so stop trying to push the TSi1 , just read and tell the truth not an info commercial . As other people have said , tell the viewers what the cost of the TSi1 is over the PXG LOL
A few months ago I saw 0811 gen 4 PXG drivers on sale for $249 ($349 currently). What a deal! I just picked up a new un-used 0811 gen 4 XF from Second Swing for $299. What a great club to hit. Forgiving just like a TM M2 but looks much better at address in my opinion. Be well.
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This is brilliant, Jackie speed is so relatable to so many … great work guys ..
Thank you for watching! We will have her on in more videos! Stay tuned!
I really appreciate Jackie as the tester! More relatable than most. Outside testing was nice; would like to know temperature and ball type….
We love having Jackie on as well! She is in a lot of our videos and will be in plenty more! Stay tuned! Great question temperature was in the 60s and we use Prov1x practice balls.
PXG 0211 is about 250 dollars delivered to your home. Way cheaper than all the other options. Went from a Ping 400 to the PXG 0211 and really like it.
Thanks for watching. Glad you find the PGX 0211 working well for you - Thomas
I just got fitted for the PXG 0211 9 degree. This this is a rocket launcher and I can keep it in play no problem. I just turned 60 and with this driver I carry it about 260 on average and just this month I have hit 4 drives over 310...which is unheard of for me! AND it was only $285!!!! Thanks for the videos!
I know this is a year ago but I just got my 0311 XF for 300. Its a beast
@@454budman Hey Matt...yea, I love my PXG 0211 driver. I also love my 0211 5 wood (at my local course right now the fairways are a bit baked out but I hit a 270 yard 5 wood the other day...I am sure it only carried 220 but WOO HOO!!!). I am trying to talk my wife into letting me get an 0211 7 wood as well. I love my PXG irons, wedges and woods!
@@markk171 0211s are on sale! Unreal deals, just got a 0211 for 119 dollars.
Just my opinion but after hitting 30-40 drives before hitting the Titleist, how much of her results were a function of warming up and ‘practicing’. Would the results be the same if she hit the PGX last? I think her dispersions would be much tighter towards the end regardless of the club.
All those drivers are $800 Canadian , except for the PXG I got for 400$ and that was with a 100$ shipping. PXG for the price hands down the best option .
I just orded mine for $155 CAD with free shipping. Came to 175 total after tax
Same here😎
Someone should probably mention that the PXG 0211 is half the cost of any of the other drivers.
obviously he is a titleist rep
$119 right now
That was my thought exactly
@@wiscofish3648 where? I'll buy it today
@Brocked and Loaded It was a sale they had running for their previous generation drivers. I believe it is over now. I bought one and they canceled the order on me after I waited a week for it to arrive. I was unimpressed with their customer service and bought a Callaway Epic Flash during the Callaway Preowned winter sale
Jackie is like a machine. She repeats that swing like a replay. Nice video and nice review!
Thank you for watching! She is an excellent golfer!!!
0211 now $179. Best driver ever for the price!
Yeah, if money isn't an issue the Tsi1 is a great option. Is it REALLY $200$300 better than a psg though? I am curious why they went with 12.5 degree and didn't lower it a tad to at least 11 degrees. Don't think many people use 12.5 do they?
How was Cobra not in the mix? It is so confusing why many comparisons leave them out when they are one of the best out there, if not the best. I finally gave in and stopped being a brand snob and tried the Cobra Speedzone Xtreme driver with a Hand Crafted Project X HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 shaft, and it was mind-blowing how good and consistent it was for me. The sound is amazing too. So much better than the last two drivers that I purchased because I wanted to stay with the bigger brands, Ping and Taylormade.
Nobody wants to play that wild color crap
@@gregarnold617 you ever hit one? If you do, you won’t mind that they don’t match your socks.
@@gregarnold617 nobody cares about what you think
Having had ping, Ts, sim drivers but never found one I could rely on enough I recently tested and plumped fir the pxg proto x+ but interestingly went 12.5 degrees set at 11.5, with a great riptide cab shaft - finally getting the consistency and reliability I was looking for bAlso shaft length 44.5’. On;y club which did better distance wise but not dispersion wise as my trusty m2 though length of shaft was the reason for the last of tightness as the shaft was 45.75. Lots of lessons here re shaft, shaft length, degrees and tendencies. For me setting it 1 degree down is better as it opens the face slightly which is better fir me to hold off a tendency to pull.
Would love to see the Cobra RAD Speed XB in this comparo
I was going to say the exact same thing.
Next time! We did not want to skew the results by having Jackie hit too many shots and get fatigued. Thank you for watching!
And currently the 0211 PXG driver is $119 brand new custom fitted with free shipping. I don't even need a driver and I purchased one !!
That is quite a steal for price. Make sure you get thr right loft and shaft for your swing! - Thomas
The fact the PXG is $200-$300 cheaper than the others makes me think it's the best one by far!
Cheaper isn't always better. Not very often do I find it is - Thomas
It seems from your conversation that she doesn’t normally use a 12 degree driver, but rather a 10.5? Why did you guys test 12 degree drivers then? Seems with her swing speed in the low 90s, it would have been nice to see a comparo of 12 degree drivers to 10.5 or 9/9.5 degree drivers. Maybe the next review?
likely cuz that was the only loft they had for all the drivers
@@Sir_Godz Agreed…but then maybe get someone who usually uses a 12 degree driver to test them, which may not be possible…I think they mentioned one of the drivers only came in a 12 degree so that’s why they did 12 degrees…
Interesting that the lightest driver came out on top for dispersion and the heaviest was the worst yet longest driver. It would be interesting to know the swing weights and tot weights of the clubs tested to see if there is a dispersion correlation.
It's going to be player dependent, generally heavier is straighter but not as far but it's different for everyone - Thomas
If your tester doesn’t normally play a 12* driver, seems somewhat pointless for her to test that loft. I understand the PXG availability was the deciding factor, does it not offer adjustments of loft? Maybe scrap the PXG if they can’t supply her ideal loft and add in the Mizuno and/or Exotics
Exactly
I have a PXG 0211 with a 10.5° head in the mail right now. So they make it. Got it for $225. So yeah. That works for me
@@raywilliams5099 for 225 you gonna be hitting fairways ! Enjoy it bro 😎 💯
I think you can adjust the loft on the PXG 1.5 degrees up or down so 10.5 should have been possible.
I've had the pxg since May
It's a beast as well as a fairway finder. It's also adjustable 1.5 degrees. At current price it's a no brainer
Come on guys let’s use the better PXG driver(0811 gen 4)
Ehhh no its not
The 0211 is a monster
when I saw the ball bag was titleist I had an idea what they were going to like
Thanks to Jackie for representing us female golfers!!
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed! Jackie is in a lot of our videos and will be returning soon!
Sim 2 was her best driver by a mile. most consisent to centerline is most important
Dispersion pattern is always the winner, that’s the TSi1. From there, as long as driver has adjustable hosel and weights, we can adjust MOI, lie and shaft to adapt to swing.
@@MichaelM-to4sg Tight dispersion that is always to the left is better then an average carry to the centerline of a fairway? lol. So you like to be 5 yards away from the trees on every left side of the fairway 10 out of 10 times or down the middle of a fairway 7 out of 10 times? You make no sense. Centerline is god in golf.
@@No_Fear_33 Centerline is not god in golf. Consistency and control is king. If I can replicate 5 drives in that tight of dispersion, I can score better. I rarely want to be dead center of fairway, I want to be placed in fairway where I can best attack on my approach.
In the case of this test, I’m betting if she adjusted lie angle 1* flatter on TSi1, you’d see same tight dispersion right down centerline.
@@MichaelM-to4sg taking your what if scenario adjustments out. i bet ALWAYS to the left side of fairway does wonders for your dog leg left holes or left side bunkers and pond placements. lmao. centerlien is god, shape your shot from there if you can.
@@MichaelM-to4sg And i could say the same thing about adjusting weights to go 10 for 10 to the center line instead of 7 for 10. the BIGGEST difference is she is mostly centerline as is with the Sim2. it wouldnt be as dramatic of an adjustment as what you are suggesting to achieve the same thing. Hit it down the center of EVRY single fairway is EVERY single golfers dream 10 out of 10 times. im never wrong.
0211 is insanely cheap as of Oct 9-2022. $175( cad) shipped to your door x stiff tensei white 65g... What a steal. (119 usd on the us site ) sold out in the UK and eu
That is a very good deal for a newer driver! - Thomas
Same as me😎
Must have filmed this in April.
if i am looking to ultimately replace my clubs over the course of the next year or so, I was wondering if you all had any recommendations on what order I should go about getting fit for new clubs: (1) driver, (2) woods/hybrids, (3) irons, (4) wedges, (5) putter - all clubs are equally old
I’m doing a full bag upgrade this year after 10+ years of rarely playing. I took a driver lesson, worked on the new swing for 6 weeks, then got driver fitted. Putter fitting was next (biggest bang for $ since it’s the most used club). I’ll do irons in the fall, then wedges and finish with woods/hybrids. Do irons before woods/hybrids and wedges so you know what gaps you need to fill. I’ve tried some 7 irons already and will go back at least once more before I actually get fitted so I have a short list of 3-4 sets for the fitting. I’ll do the same with woods and hybrids. I also did two pre-fitting tests with putters since there are so many choices but still tried 6 different models at the fitting.
@@lindsaynewell6319 With the putter, what testing/fitting did you do? It's the most used but also the one I feel technology has the smallest influence on performance.
Swing arc would be a big factor but was this measured for you? I've asked around my area but most indicate it's more of a 'feel' test.
@@lindsaynewell6319 thanks for your input, really appreciate it. Also as Adrian asked, did you notice a difference with a fitted putter?
@@FBTRodz7 I’ve spent a lot of time ‘tuning’ my putter during last Fall and this Spring. I had a putter head I felt comfortable w/look and it rolled well, I just wasn’t good outside 8’. I changed grips, shaft, lie angle and head weight. Biggest improvement for me was installing a lightweight composite shaft and playing w/lead tape. The much greater swing weight made longer lag putts less effort. Feeling where head is in stroke improved my consistency. It took several practice sessions to feel comfortable on shorter putts, particularly fast downhill putts. The other big improvement was a more upright lie that put my stance a bit closer to ball.
These may or may not improve your putting, they were big helps to me; 33.4 putts/round to 31.2. The key takeaway is a new putter is often less the answer than tuning whatcha got.
@@FBTRodz7 My fit wasn't full high-tech with high speed video analysis of strike and loft (e.g. TXG putter fitting), but the laser alignment was a huge help. I have a very dominant left eye and even with corrective lenses, I was lined up 2 balls right of the hole on 10 foot putts. Just having an experienced fitter confirm or correct my assumptions about my stroke also helped. I feel like I got the best putter for me in terms of style, weight, shaft length, grip size, alignment aids etc. vs just doing it on my own. The $40 fitting cost was comped against the $250 purchase and the fitter spent an hour with me (PGA superstore Tour Van fitting).
She needs a lower spinning shaft to actually determine which head is the best for her.
Why do you think her spin rate is so high even though she's hitting up on it?
higher lofted club. 12 degrees loft = higher spin
the SIM MAX was the winner in this review if you moved her from 12 degrees of loft to 10.5 or 9.5
Ping all day.
The spin numbers are ridiculous. Lower lofts and a stiffer shaft. Give the girl a fighting chance.
Thanks for the support, Mike! :) We only had the PXG in a 12 degree loft at the time of this video so we had to do it that way! - Jackie
Spin rates were too high for all of these drivers, should be mid 2000's
Yea definitely not optimized for her but the spin rate comparisons between the drivers still provides very good insight into their designs
@@mattwilliams3104 Except once they identify the best driver in dispersion, they can then adjust weights and shaft to reduce spin rate. Especially in case of TSi1, which is roughly 20g lower head mass than most heads. Finding the ideal shaft for such a light head, both shaft mass, counterweighting and flex characteristics becomes more critical. The other 4 heads are 290-300g, the Ping 425 Max LS is close to 310g. The TSi1 is 272g. Using same shaft, while understandable is a head-head comparison, is losing some of the benefits made possible by a low mass head.
@@MichaelM-to4sg the Epic Max is 194g in weight.....not sure where you obtained these numbers but you are way off
@@Foregrlz The weights I stated are for built clubs, not just heads. Callaway states the Epic Max head is 207g. Not as heavy as Ping G425Max but still quite massive, especially compared to TSi1. Callaway recently announced a new driver design, the Epic Star Max, aimed at same ‘senior’ market as TSi1, its head is 52g lighter than Epic Max!!
While I understand targeting the senior market with premium products, these new superlight heads will be interesting how they workout. If used by fast swingers looking for increased swing speed, will that result in fatigue failures and will oe warrant those failures? Is this reduced mass also reducing moi of head thus resulting in less forgiving on mishits? How much will the reduced swing mass increase swing speed and will that be sufficient to overcome loss in force due to reduction in head mass.
In summation, I think this affluent senior golfer market is in its infancy and some growing pains are on horizon. For example, a low mass heads makes sense from an effort/strength/flexibility standpoint but the reduced force at impact may be too detrimental to be overcome by slight increase in head velocity. Why not offer these heads in non-COR compliant face? I’d also like to see lower compression ‘hotter’ ball for slower swing speed seniors.
Really interesting as I swing 86mph or more with a 6 iron.
I dont think these are fair test. To many variables in her swing. Put all these heads on a robot swing and check the numbers. Only way to get a true feedback I think.
wow the cheapest driver won , way to go PXG :) guess what all of the PXG drives would be on an average fairway , so stop trying to push the TSi1 , just read and tell the truth not an info commercial . As other people have said , tell the viewers what the cost of the TSi1 is over the PXG LOL
A few months ago I saw 0811 gen 4 PXG drivers on sale for $249 ($349 currently).
What a deal!
I just picked up a new un-used 0811 gen 4 XF from Second Swing for $299.
What a great club to hit. Forgiving just like a TM M2 but looks much better at address in my opinion.
Be well.
Where is the Rad speed!!!?
pxg new 119. with a Gucci shaft
Thanks for watching - Thomas
This video makes me depressed as her ball speed/carry is similar to mine.
Wirk on compressing that ball