I'm confused, to stop feline obesity do we need to either stop working out, or stop drinking beer. Or is it stop working out and stop drinking beer. Or is it that we can either stop working out or drink more beer? (This is a reply showing how misunderstanding of grammar also contributes to the change of information)
I think it all starts going down when 3b1b's minimalist style of animation left out a lot of information, leaving the next narrator to try to fill in the gaps
Everyone's talking about how Tom and PhysicsGirl changed the game, but no one's mentioning how Jabril completely turned the premise upside down by taking the drawings way too literally, with hilarity ensuing
Your explanation of evolution was really cool! Bringing up D&D dice really illustrates the way that it's not about who's got the highest stats, but higher stats give them better odds. It was a really neat metaphor!
Early Ones: Research can lose its meaning once it gets to the public. Tom Scott: Bartender's Elbow! Vanessa: SHAKE THAT ICE! Jabril: Flower, 1 to 3! Danielle: Wat? OK, let's just draw this... Joe: Evolution D&D!
Can we just appreciate how Joe's explanation made PERFECT sense despite Jabril's chaotic narration and Danielle's confused drawing "As an organism levels up, it never wins the game, it just has more dice to roll in the next round" is legit one of the best lines I have ever heard in a biology-related video
His take was the perfect conclusion. Started with a believably normal video, devolved into chaos, and then came out the other end with a meaningful video.
I love the confusion where Jabril was just implicitly thinking of a sequence cause that's such a prominent concept in programming and when danielle heard his explanation she was like "what the fuck are you talking about guy"
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 Any children that are caught frolicking in the field are hit with sticks and set to yakutz for 8 months where they're scolded and then tied to posts to have- where the locals throw rocks at their feet. it awful, nobody- it horr- it's just nobody likes this field :(.
Everyone else: Let's try to find a tight narrative that links all the animations together and give it a scientific spin Jabril: "Sun, one to three, leaf, one to three, and snowflakes, one to three." Damn that's good stuff.
The original idea: Misinterpretation can cause a lot of problems, especially if there is a lack of communication. The rest of the telephone game: Oh I'm going to prove this hypothesis to be so right.
I feel like the moment it went off the rails was not Physics Girl's description, but 3B1B's illustration. His style is so minimalistic that a lot of context got lost in there, and I immediately knew that whoever came afterwards would go off track.
@@dawsonhicks5929it's probably the sort of video where the likelyhood of interaction on randomly appearing in someones feed is high enough to kickstart the algorithm, because there are so many people involved you may know.
@@flori5296 definitely, I'm not sure what the brief they were all given was but physicsgirl and jabril giving very literal narrations absolutely destroyed any chance of a cohesive story lol
It clearly started trailing off between 3Blue and Diana's reading, but Tom truly hit the nail in the coffin of derailing the whole thing, then it came upside down with Jabril literally describing the drawings. Still I loved how Joe made sense of Danielle's gorgeous illustrations. Something I find interesting is how in the comments most of the "blame" goes to those who had to make a script from video, and not the other way around, as if most of the actual information wasn't lost in the translation from natural language to visual storytelling. It's a nice introduction to the process some of these people have when choosing how to back what they say with images, and also goes to show the importance of good graphic design in communication.
I think 3Blue1Brown's illustrations were a little too abstract to carry the ideas on their own (his videos aren't intended to work that way), and then I think Diana kinda sealed the deal. I think Tom Scott really just gave up on making sense of it and went with a ridiculous Technical Difficulties-esque made up story.
You make a really good point. I think that visual->script is indeed where crucial information was lost, because visuals are typically meant to reinforce or illustrate something being discussed, but not to explain causation. Add in that most of the topics were relatively abstract, and it increases the opportunity for misunderstanding when playing telephone. In particular, I note how the images have gone from feeling 'scientific' to 'encyclopedic' to 'infoblurb' to outright 'entertainment', which has shifted the emphasis given to subjects. Small beers in graphs became the leading element. Small cats eating apples became a crisis of overweightness. Etc. Tom came up with bartenders elbow because he couldn't figure out the story the images were telling. Another came up with crazy powerups and a highly visual description because the concept of time passing had been lost in the iconified representation of the seasons. And the last one interpreted ice cubes as dice because a previous iteration had already used ice-like glasses instead of outright beer for the mentions of it, which killed the colour that the liquid would have had, thus leading to the misunderstanding. It was amazing to see.
Just goes to show that Tom could be making shit up and I would be none the wiser because he sounds like he knows what he's talking about so I trust him
I remember osmosis jones from a 5th grade in-class health movie, you know like when they give u a question sheet and ya fill it out as the video goes on. I also remember the terribly animated allergy pill and exploding zit. Why these memories were revealed after reading this comment, i haven’t the slightest idea.
I'm just going to say that there are 10 min worth of funny reactions to this video, which we didn't include because this video was already very long (to our standards). However, if this video gets 250,000 views in its first week, I promise to put it together and share it with the world. So share it around! :)
this reminds me of that one kid that just made his presentation in break time and it was just 5 blank slides with just a sentence one it but because of how much he knew about the topic already, he got a decent grade for it...
He created a game that is exactly like that, so that's no surprise. If you don't know what I'm talking about, check out "two of these people are lying".
The fact that Tom made up bartender's elbow and a bunch of other stuff and made it sound completely normal was kinda scary. The dude could fool anyone with how confidently he presents everything he says.
EternusNex As long as you don’t see him, so that he doesn’t have to keep a straight face, he can make up the most outrageous things and still sound believable.
I mean it's basically what he and his friends do in various games and what not. He's top tier bluffer and I *really* wanna see a roleplay session involving him
Kate: Correlation and Causation Henry: Cats drink beer Arcadi: Beer makes you swole Dianna: Essays are better with beer Tom: Bartender's Elbow Mithuna: Flex your muscles Vanessa: *why shaking a cup of ice can make you healthy* Jabril: *flower 1-3, sun 1-3, leaf 1-3, and snowflake 1-3* Joe: Dungeons and Dragons
all of these are sorta true. Cats'll probably drink since they wouldn't know it was beer all swole men i've seen drink so yeah writing an essay drunk is fun your arm'd probably hurt pouring all those drinks flexing muscles is.. flexy? shaking stuff can probably work out your wrists those things were on screen and for the last one idk
@@kwibloupthesomething it's a good analogy, just rolling dice and going on with more if you roll well, no real point or end or direction, just chance and success
Filip Nalepa A much larger percentage of guitarists have nipples than cellists have scrotums, and they’re also far more likely to have the names body part affected by their playing … or are they?
Jabrill was the only person who tried to accurately portray the animation without assuming any additional information. Truly the most scientificaly minded describer in the sequence.
That is such an interesting take! I had the exact opposite reaction. I thought some of them were trying to actually understand what's being said and looked for a plausible interpretation, while others... Well, it looked to me like they weren't trying at all. I cannot understand how you could come up with "sun 1 to 3" and just keep it there, it's absurd and meaningless. I assumed that the description of the task was vague, and that's what threw Jabrill off.
RENEE PARK Jabril tried preserving the graphics for future iterations, rather than attempting to guess the incoming video’s script. It’s a somewhat legitimate strategy for a telephone-esque game this size, as long as you don’t fail spectacularly.
11:03 I like the fact that, a certain circular thing with spikes in 2020 was so impressive that at least one smart person would literally see a shape of a shining sun as "a virus". 😂
i love how no-one is mentioning how Joe took the story in a sharp turn. he turned ice into dice, actual actions into evolution and literal people into figurative embodiments of animal populations!
Yeah, from an information preservation standpoint, he put in a huge distortion. Said something completely unrelated to even his nearest neighbour. Perhaps, its easier to say for us viewers because we had the full overview of the flow of information starting right from the original information, but it was a huge distortion even if we just take the last two stages.
Joe actually did really well--he looked at the animation as a whole to figure out what coherent narrative it *could* be telling, and reconstructed that narrative perfectly. If he'd been earlier in the sequence, he would have likely passed on the original information really well. The problem was one of Garbage In, Garbage Out--if the input doesn't carry a coherent narrative on its own merits, it's impossible for the next link in the chain to reconstruct that narrative, so they have to come up with a narrative of their own. Overall, most of the information was generally lost in the translations from narrative to animation--to the point where on Jabril's turn, he couldn't wring any sensible narrative out of the animation at all and simply described the animation instead.
I like how by the time of Jabril’s explanation, he was so confused that he had to explain the twelve months as a series of three flowers, three suns, three withered leaves, and three snowflakes. Then again, shaking a cup of ice for twelve months to grow your muscles is not a topic you can pick up on immediately. Admittedly, figuring out that Grant was drawing about miscommunications from science to social media is just close enough to media sensationalism by itself that that misinterpretation is not bad.
It went from "Don't trust clickbait science" to "Studies have proven that bartenders are strong" to "Ice shaking makes you strong" to "Level up your strength stats using dice"
1-4 near perfect 3b1b: really good but difficult to interpret Dianna: she got the memo but heck that was a bit misleading, wonder how the next will... Tom Scott: eLBoW
feel like dianna's misdirection was on purpose since there's no way she said "that's how fake news is made" without having known the original point, so she knew but decided to mess with the later people
Petition for more of this? I understand not wanting to bog down your main science-focused channels with this kind of content, but I for one found this to be greatly enjoyable and a much-needed dose of levity in our 2020 world. If you guys made a secondary channel and occasionally did other group games like this, I'd definitely watch it regularly.
Because at that point, the video didn't have anything to indicate any of the information was false. Which explains a lot, except for why he decided to just make bartender's elbow.
@@jaksida300 ehh, 3b1b's was very bare bones. You wouldn't know what it was supposed to convey without the guiding narration either. She did the best she could with what she was given in her own style.
@@leotamer5 I think the graph that the animators did was wrong - in most things, the beer was the x and the muscles were the y. In theirs, the cats were the x and the beer was the y,
I like how everyone was sticking to the same idea, then it gets to Dianna and she just chooses to interpret the information as literally as possible. aN esSaY ThaT mAgiCAllY coPieS itsElf
It was clearly 3blue1brown that quite derailed the situation. His illustrations were too vague that right off the bat when his illustrations started while the one before him was narrating, I immediately thought "oh no those illustrations are going to get so misinterpreted". Try getting someone who hasn't seen this yet to watch his part again without audio and ask them to describe what it's supposed to say. Then show them the illustrations before Grant's then ask them again what those mean. I hypothesize that they will be so starkly different
You say that because you had the information when looking at Grant's visuals. Grant is great at uniquely and creatively visualizing and abstracting data which is fantastic allowing people to see math in new and fresh ways... but isn't as strong at clearly conveying concrete narratively structured information. Dianna is great at clearly and concisely conveying complex literal information to a broad audience, which is perfect for science communication... but that isn't the strongest skill set for constructing a connected narrative based on largely abstract imagery. I think it's more impressive that the original meaning lasted as long as it did and less surprising that the meaning broke down, especially when people are doing things outside their wheel house.
@@GivenFailure I think the original meaning lasted as long as it did because the first few were people from the "minute" channels, and thus were more in tune with one another.
@@smonke4377 And imagine if Matt Parker were there… 'The dice don't add up along all the axes, but they're still pretty good, so give the cat a beer anyhow…'
I've read a few AI papers and Jabril's description makes total sense. He sees boxes on screen, he's going to describe the boxes on screen. I love how the "strength" motif was the only thing left by the end of the video!
Kate: *explains how data can be misleading* Henry: *re-explains in a more literal sense* Arcadi: *re-explains to much younger people* Dianna: *re-explains with a more comedic effect* Tom: *sounds like a Wikipedia article* Mithuna: *sounds like an advertisement* Vanessa: *sounds like fake news* Jabril: *says whatever that is happening on-screen* Joe: *supports his bizarre point* Edit: I fixed some of the wording in this comment.
I love how some of them, most notably Physics Girl, Braincraft, and Jamil, clearly just had **no** idea what to do with their material lol And then It’s Okay to be Smart definitely clutched the ending by some making sense of that madness
I know, right? That's like forcing a goat to endure progressively more deforming and debilitating mutations until it randomly becomes Arnold Schwarzenegger.
What i like about this is that it shows how a youtubers worldview can effect their delivery of content. Physics Girl tries to make science fun and accessible, but this sacrifices substance. Tom Scott covers obscure facts, so focuses more on building a story than on rigorous facts. Jabrils is a programmer, so his description is purely objective to a fault. Tier Zoo's work is focused on a video game aesthetic, which changes the context of the source material. As viewers of all these channels, I wonder how much our own worldview is shaped and warped by these channels delivery!
fanrco And 3blue1browns graphics are very aesthetically pleasing but since much of the context is supplied in the audio they are not as helpful. They are more about going the extra mile in visualising and understanding something rather then just describing it.
Oh no I had never thought about it that way. It's hard though, because I watch these videos for 'entertainment', so I'm less concerned about getting balanced/correct information than I would be if I was doing proper research for academic purposes. But I am learning and absorbing information from them nonetheless. Perhaps it's worth thinking more about what lens I'm being presented the info through.
The *trend* goes upwards linearly- not the curve itself. The trend is equivalent to the first derivative. If it goes up linearly, then that means the curve goes up exponentially.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 the derivative of an exponential function is still an exponential function. even if you were right in the first part, you arguing wrongly in the second part when you say that: the derivative is linear so the function is exponential. no! the antiderivative of a linear function is a power function not an exponential function. to conclude: your line of argumentation isnt even consistent in itself
That was amazing. He took a completely nonsensical story and he managed to interpret it into something actually sensible. Had it not been for him the telephone would have ended up with a gibberish mess.
Yes, I agree with you. We read with 'our sense of things'. It seems good - if it matches the common sense/current understanding of things in this society at this point in time(which seems to be the case in this example), it seems bad - if it doesn't. In fact when we look at history and before we judge people and societies, we should appreciate the fact that they could have made perfect sense in that time and space, and 'We' are in a different time and space with our own set of prejudice and understanding of the universe. For example, look.. who knows, for a future society Jabril's reading (which 'now' might look random to 'many of us') might make a lot more sense than Joe's.
It was so disconcerting to me to hear my favorite science TH-camrs (especially Tom Scott) spout some bullshit and make it sound totally believable lol.
"Flower, 1 to 3... sun, 1 to 3... leaf, 1 to 3... and snowflake, 1 to 3, replaces from sun 2 to snowflake 1 with strength in the sequence" - Jabril 2020.
People are saying it derailed in Tom or Diana, but my hypothesis is that the cause of the derailing was the lack of emphasis Grant put into showing that the data had been passed along several people and that that fact was what changed the data, Diana didn't know and so that part was lost and by Tom the message was only about the data and only talking about the data made everyone else interpret data and make up what that data is supposed to represent
Agreed. I think it illustrated (hehe) nicely how hard it is to make good illustrations. His animation was nice as a support to the text, but couldn’t carry the narrative. Compare it to the animations from the minute earth team! To be fair though, they were passing the story within their ranks, and they’ve worked with each other for years.
The same with TierZoo. Their style of animation is just not meant for the same purpose animations like Scishow and Minute earth are. I'm not saying they are bad, Grant's animations fits his explanations so well, it is really easy to follow them, and TierZoo have a really nice style of presenting content you don't see anywhere else.
You can clearly tell where everyone gave up trying to understand what was provided as source and made stuff up. That final save by Joe made the script seem well-written.
The most interesting part about this is how they choose to interpret the drawings. Some decide to make a story out of them, some just flat describe what they see. It's all in the interpretation, how a glass of ice becomes a cup of dice.
This video is one of those I wish I could upvote more; one of those rare times I wish TH-cam had a 'SuperUpvote' that users could apply a limited number of.
More detailed information for upvoting would be great (like a five-star system as seen in many places) but I'm guessing there are two major difficulties with that: 1. More storage space required. I have no idea how all the videos are saved because they aren't small files. But with millions, probably billions of videos, storing even 3 more, integers to each video could add up. 2. The transition would probably be the bigger problem. How do you convert likes and dislikes into that new system to keep old content and it's evaluation relevant in the new system.
@@sebastianjost TH-cam used to have a star based system many years ago, but I think they stopped not because it was tough on storage, but rather because it was harder for The Algorithm to direct the videos for the different people
If it makes you feel any better, you are mortal, and your "normal" likes are limited, like your life. You are a blip in time and your spent some of it here. Super!
I love how crazy and unscientific it got by the end, and then Joe bringing it back with something actually educational with real learning points, great video it'd be awesome to get more of this kind of stuff down the line c:
Yeah, between all the chaos, he managed to make sense of it! That's a skill I would like to develop xD (Yeah, making sense of life with D&D analogies (?) Also, I really like your pfp! :D
Up until 5:35 I thought it was possible the game could get back on track based on illustrations... but when the axes of the graph were switched around I knew it could only go downhill from there because whoever looked at it would think the cat/person/arm was the independent variable.
Hear me out: Jabril had a good strategy, but coming after TierZoo's metaphors was the one time that it would've backfired :P I love seeing all the styles of narration and animation, and I laughed with joy at the sheer creativity
The message was going through so well, then it got turbulent with Grant and Dianna, and past Tom there's no hope in fixing the transmission's technical difficulties. What a brilliant game and collab this is. Would it be too much to ask for more like this?
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I would pay good money to have Joe Hanson, Dianna Cowern, or Jabril re-narrate any video I made from the visuals alone.
I would pay you money to pay them money
I bet no money is needed, only likes, tons of likes!
Let’s have them do this
I want to see this too!
It's been confirmed everyone 😄
Now we're wondering if the only way to stop feline obesity is to stop making our biceps swole, or drinking beer. What an ethical dilemma.
Those puns are purrfect!
Honesty I think Tom Scott really messed it up 🤣🤣
I'm confused, to stop feline obesity do we need to either stop working out, or stop drinking beer. Or is it stop working out and stop drinking beer. Or is it that we can either stop working out or drink more beer?
(This is a reply showing how misunderstanding of grammar also contributes to the change of information)
I think it all starts going down when 3b1b's minimalist style of animation left out a lot of information, leaving the next narrator to try to fill in the gaps
@g@m3 insert obligatory joe mama joke
but I think he meant joe from it's okay to be smart
Tom Scott causes chaos with his “bartender’s elbow”.
You can tell hes used to making stuff up for his own channel.
*THE 1970S*
3 of these people are lying was good practice
I love how He immediately jumps to historical reference before science on impulse. Classic tom scott storyteller
Red Shirt Syndrome.
I like how Tom can make anything sound legit
bartender's elbow
I actually believed him for a while
He was just like 'fuck it, we ball' I was screaming at the screen!
That's a British accent in action.
thats what 500+ videos does to an audience
Everyone's talking about how Tom and PhysicsGirl changed the game, but no one's mentioning how Jabril completely turned the premise upside down by taking the drawings way too literally, with hilarity ensuing
And that Grant's drawings were too abstract and could lead to many interpretations.
one sun to three suns
@@marleneg.7128 3b1b is so focused on clarity of illustration over thoroughness of exposition that a LOT of information was simply lost completely.
Jabril not interpreting 3 months is just... disastrous.
"Flower 1 through 3" wtf??
The thing is though that it was already off the rails by the time it got to Jabril. His interpretation was hilarious but it was long gone.
This was both very fun, and *deeply* unsettling
Yeah but you didnt featured on this vídeo just because youve focused on 1 thing only!!!
This was like watching Joker didn't know if to laugh or to cry 😂.
Here is a Braincraft fan and subscriber 🙌
Hmmm im not so sure...
FLOWER , ONE TO THREE
@@TH3_S4LMON ill buy the psvr and Play with not my friends but to celebs baby!!!
Being the person at the very end of this game of TH-cam telephone, I just have to say WHAT THE HECKY?! 😂
You did the best with what you were given
I agree with Tom, you were the MVP. You turned complete confusion into a gorgeous narrative.
Your explanation of evolution was really cool! Bringing up D&D dice really illustrates the way that it's not about who's got the highest stats, but higher stats give them better odds. It was a really neat metaphor!
Last is best in this game
Joe I'm stealing that final line and putting it in my own video, no backsies
Early Ones: Research can lose its meaning once it gets to the public.
Tom Scott: Bartender's Elbow!
Vanessa: SHAKE THAT ICE!
Jabril: Flower, 1 to 3!
Danielle: Wat? OK, let's just draw this...
Joe: Evolution D&D!
so funny lol
You missed
Diana: want to write an essay? DRINK BEER!
nobody’s talking about mithuana, i’m surprised how well her explanation for with what she was given
definitely
Is lifting a cup of ice OP?
Agreed.
Yes, unless you're Chuck Norris.
I would love to know that on your next episodes
I came here just for TeirZoo.
Hey TierZoo, Is your real name Patrick? That's my name too! That's so cool.
"Feline obesity"
"Bartender's elbow"
Minute earth: Miscommunication
"A cup of ice"
Hi
Hi
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Can we just appreciate how Joe's explanation made PERFECT sense despite Jabril's chaotic narration and Danielle's confused drawing
"As an organism levels up, it never wins the game, it just has more dice to roll in the next round" is legit one of the best lines I have ever heard in a biology-related video
Joe’s explanation could be a standalone video on his channel 😂
YES exactly!
Omg yes how did he make that work idk but WOW
His take was the perfect conclusion. Started with a believably normal video, devolved into chaos, and then came out the other end with a meaningful video.
I know its an AMAZING metaphor!!!
I love the confusion where Jabril was just implicitly thinking of a sequence cause that's such a prominent concept in programming and when danielle heard his explanation she was like "what the fuck are you talking about guy"
But joe explanation made sense in the chaos jabril made in his narration
the fact that he's a programmer makes that part make so much more sense
This is proof that I would believe anything that Tom Scott says.
...yup
"This field, right here, in the middle of Russia, doesn't look that useful. . . because it's not."
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 Any children that are caught frolicking in the field are hit with sticks and set to yakutz for 8 months where they're scolded and then tied to posts to have- where the locals throw rocks at their feet. it awful, nobody- it horr- it's just nobody likes this field :(.
That is something I do know
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Everyone else: Let's try to find a tight narrative that links all the animations together and give it a scientific spin
Jabril: "Sun, one to three, leaf, one to three, and snowflakes, one to three."
Damn that's good stuff.
It was the truest description tho
“A person, *presumably bald* “
Perfection.
@@georgy2596 I lost it at that part
to be fair what else could he possibly say about it lol
The original idea: Misinterpretation can cause a lot of problems, especially if there is a lack of communication.
The rest of the telephone game: Oh I'm going to prove this hypothesis to be so right.
exactly, it should've been natural
I feel like the moment it went off the rails was not Physics Girl's description, but 3B1B's illustration. His style is so minimalistic that a lot of context got lost in there, and I immediately knew that whoever came afterwards would go off track.
I think it was a combination of 3b1b's minimalistic style and physics girls literal narration.
@@flori5296Congratulations on getting 6 likes in 4 hours on a reply to a comment from 3 years ago.
@@isavenewspapers8890the fact we’re all here must mean the algorithm decided to boost this 3 year old video for whatever reason
@@dawsonhicks5929it's probably the sort of video where the likelyhood of interaction on randomly appearing in someones feed is high enough to kickstart the algorithm, because there are so many people involved you may know.
@@flori5296 definitely, I'm not sure what the brief they were all given was but physicsgirl and jabril giving very literal narrations absolutely destroyed any chance of a cohesive story lol
Who else thinks that this should become an annual tradition between these channels? :)
yes! regular weekly or monthly would make this kind of content less special. Annual will make us anticipate it more.
Yes! And with more channels… CGP Grey, Wendover Productions, Inés Dawson, Mark Rober, Soliloquay… How Ridiculous, Epic Rap Battles… 😉
@@nomadMik i wanna see epic rap battles do this so badly now
I'm just here for the Montana representation.
Yes education channels should do that it would definitely motivate everyone to listen to their actual channels!
And they said Avengers is the most ambitious crossover ever.
The Lego Movie
Reality
Ambitious? Possibly. Best result? That seems to be up for debate.
Lol
It clearly started trailing off between 3Blue and Diana's reading, but Tom truly hit the nail in the coffin of derailing the whole thing, then it came upside down with Jabril literally describing the drawings. Still I loved how Joe made sense of Danielle's gorgeous illustrations.
Something I find interesting is how in the comments most of the "blame" goes to those who had to make a script from video, and not the other way around, as if most of the actual information wasn't lost in the translation from natural language to visual storytelling. It's a nice introduction to the process some of these people have when choosing how to back what they say with images, and also goes to show the importance of good graphic design in communication.
I think 3Blue1Brown's illustrations were a little too abstract to carry the ideas on their own (his videos aren't intended to work that way), and then I think Diana kinda sealed the deal. I think Tom Scott really just gave up on making sense of it and went with a ridiculous Technical Difficulties-esque made up story.
Fourteen of These People are Lying
I'll say it, whatever the hell Scishow were doing with their animation was ridiculous.
@@midgetwars1 You can tell that they really rushed that one.
You make a really good point. I think that visual->script is indeed where crucial information was lost, because visuals are typically meant to reinforce or illustrate something being discussed, but not to explain causation. Add in that most of the topics were relatively abstract, and it increases the opportunity for misunderstanding when playing telephone. In particular, I note how the images have gone from feeling 'scientific' to 'encyclopedic' to 'infoblurb' to outright 'entertainment', which has shifted the emphasis given to subjects. Small beers in graphs became the leading element. Small cats eating apples became a crisis of overweightness. Etc. Tom came up with bartenders elbow because he couldn't figure out the story the images were telling. Another came up with crazy powerups and a highly visual description because the concept of time passing had been lost in the iconified representation of the seasons. And the last one interpreted ice cubes as dice because a previous iteration had already used ice-like glasses instead of outright beer for the mentions of it, which killed the colour that the liquid would have had, thus leading to the misunderstanding. It was amazing to see.
Everyone's talking about Tom's lovely derailing with bartender's elbow, but Jabril's literal explanation had me DEAD
Tom's narration was so nonsensical, and yet I still feel I learned something
Yoooo ur pfp, something osmosis I can’t exactly remember.
@@Zaddis O S M O S I S J O N E S
"This field, in the middle of Russia, does not look very useful; because it's not."
Just goes to show that Tom could be making shit up and I would be none the wiser because he sounds like he knows what he's talking about so I trust him
I remember osmosis jones from a 5th grade in-class health movie, you know like when they give u a question sheet and ya fill it out as the video goes on. I also remember the terribly animated allergy pill and exploding zit. Why these memories were revealed after reading this comment, i haven’t the slightest idea.
Diana: You see a clear upward *_linear_* trend
Osmosis: **draws a curved line**
Yes, I am Not the only one who noticed!
thought the same thing!
its Dianna
i have a teacher named Diana
The horizontal axis has a logarithmic scale. That's why ! 😂
I saw that too lol.
Everyone before Tom Scott: Mildly connected
Tom Scott: *Bartender's elbow*
yes
@D.A. Botos
She was connected at all?
Exactly my thought!
@D.A. Botos She mentioned 'fake news' which was somewhat an element of the original information.
@D.A. Botos She mentioned 'fake news' which was somewhat an element of the original information.
Joe and Tom have an ability to make everything sound real
I hate to be a blind follower but anything that tom says is fact, no matter what, end of story.
I'm just going to say that there are 10 min worth of funny reactions to this video, which we didn't include because this video was already very long (to our standards). However, if this video gets 250,000 views in its first week, I promise to put it together and share it with the world. So share it around! :)
yesss plz!!!
Seriously, watching an hour’s worth of reactions would make my day. This was so much fun. 😆
Like video plz
Estuvo Fantastico!
10 minutes per participant, right?
The only sad part is that cats were lost in transition
The sadder thing is that if a cat drinks alcohol it would die
But, hey! Icy dices!
dwarf fortress approves
it's the schrodinger's cat effect, you won't know what happened to the cat until you watch the whole video
@@brandtforester837 , Well, is it not true then that larger cats would be able to tolerate more beer before it becomes problematic?
Tom Scott is like the kid that didn't prepare for the presentation, but makes something up and bullshits his way into an A. lol
Sounds accurate 🤣
this reminds me of that one kid that just made his presentation in break time and it was just 5 blank slides with just a sentence one it but because of how much he knew about the topic already, he got a decent grade for it...
He created a game that is exactly like that, so that's no surprise. If you don't know what I'm talking about, check out "two of these people are lying".
Me type. XD
Most people: talking about science
Tom Scott: Here's a little lesson in history
Honestly, I just wanna see how everyone reacted to Jabril’s “Flower 1 to 3, sun 1 to 3..”
The fact that Tom made up bartender's elbow and a bunch of other stuff and made it sound completely normal was kinda scary. The dude could fool anyone with how confidently he presents everything he says.
And yet, he claims not to be good at improv or bluffing
EternusNex
As long as you don’t see him, so that he doesn’t have to keep a straight face, he can make up the most outrageous things and still sound believable.
Takes me back to his "why you can't trust me" video 🤔
Maybe the rule is, you cant check the validity of your thought about the illustrations before you. So, i think his blunder is receivable.
I mean it's basically what he and his friends do in various games and what not. He's top tier bluffer and I *really* wanna see a roleplay session involving him
Jabril: "Replaces from Sun 2 to Snowflake 1 with Strength in the sequence"
Danielle: "I give up"
Jabril: `[SUN[2]:SNOWFLAKE[1]].REPLACE(STRENGTH)`
Danielle: `AttributeError. IndexError. NameError. WTFMateError.`
Everyone: What?
his narration was the funniest part. Purely objective, truly a programmer
I was looking for this comment
@@thelastcube. Well, it was actually sun2 to leaf1 though.
lol
I love how Tom just straight up gives up in trying to come up with anything sensible and goes screw it, bartender's elbow
It makes me think of the AI-written fake history video he did.
@@jvgreendarmokwhat
That was fantastic! Seems fitting that it ended on talking about evolution.
yep, also 1st on verified wooo
@@anhbui-bc4ew *claps*
Yeah, and the starting statement was about how things can change from person to person.
923rd, funny like number but yes, joe is a legend at humor serious
Evolution D&D is the cat's meow.
Awh man that was amazing. In my defense, I just seen some guy shaking ice & turning half super saiyan from it. 😂😂😂
That's 1 part stupid, 3 parts hilarious
Danielle did a fantastic job illustrating tho!
3 leafs
I was dead
haaaaaa-HAAAAAAA-YAHHHHHHHHH..... The ice makes ME STRONGER HAAAAAAAAA.......
I thought you were purposly making it weird
Kate: Correlation and Causation
Henry: Cats drink beer
Arcadi: Beer makes you swole
Dianna: Essays are better with beer
Tom: Bartender's Elbow
Mithuna: Flex your muscles
Vanessa: *why shaking a cup of ice can make you healthy*
Jabril: *flower 1-3, sun 1-3, leaf 1-3, and snowflake 1-3*
Joe: Dungeons and Dragons
all of these are sorta true.
Cats'll probably drink since they wouldn't know it was beer
all swole men i've seen drink so yeah
writing an essay drunk is fun
your arm'd probably hurt pouring all those drinks
flexing muscles is.. flexy?
shaking stuff can probably work out your wrists
those things were on screen
and for the last one idk
@@kwibloupthesomething it's a good analogy, just rolling dice and going on with more if you roll well, no real point or end or direction, just chance and success
@@kwibloupthesomething Yep all of these are true. Don't get me started on the philosophical weight of flower 1 to 3.
geometrydash
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Bartender's elbow is a real thing. Most bartenders have elbows.
😂😂😂
Just like guitarist's nipple or cello scrotum?
Cello scrotum is main theme of one Citation needed.
This really cracked me up 😂😂😂👍🏼
OMG. I JUST GOOGLED THIS AND IT'S TRUE! Can I subscribe to your science channel too?
Filip Nalepa
A much larger percentage of guitarists have nipples than cellists have scrotums, and they’re also far more likely to have the names body part affected by their playing … or are they?
Jabrill was the only person who tried to accurately portray the animation without assuming any additional information. Truly the most scientificaly minded describer in the sequence.
That is such an interesting take! I had the exact opposite reaction. I thought some of them were trying to actually understand what's being said and looked for a plausible interpretation, while others... Well, it looked to me like they weren't trying at all. I cannot understand how you could come up with "sun 1 to 3" and just keep it there, it's absurd and meaningless. I assumed that the description of the task was vague, and that's what threw Jabrill off.
Jabrill is actually a programmer so the way he explained the animation as if it was a sequence makes sense. I found it funny😂
Everyone: lets make telephone science!
Jabril: So when he shakes the glass , *flower , 1-3 , sun , 1-3 , leaf , 1-3 , and snowflake 1-3.*
*a number 3 medium, sauce on the side*
replaces from sun 2 to snowflake [leaf] 1 with strength in the sequence!
@@itscoper8133 A number 6 with extra dip
@@em__1 dont skimp on the mustard in number 53
**A person, presumably bald**
Tom’s that guy that purposely messes with the game of telephone. Everyone changed it but he seemed like he was having the most fun with his changes.
From Dianna onwards, things began to change a lot more rapidly.
Jabril also
Jabril was just saying what was happening
It was grant's confusing illustration that started the cascade of confusion imo.
RENEE PARK Jabril tried preserving the graphics for future iterations, rather than attempting to guess the incoming video’s script. It’s a somewhat legitimate strategy for a telephone-esque game this size, as long as you don’t fail spectacularly.
At the start: yeah this is the same concept:
In the middle: feline obesity
At the end: shake the ice dice to evolve!
What? Ice dice shaker is evolving!
Da da da da daa da da da
Mice with lice eating nice ice dice made of rice
Rainbow the Dragon Cat too many rhymes! Noooo!
Your Ice Dice Shaker evolved into Articuno!
TomScott used Bartender's Elbow , everyone else gets confused.
11:03 I like the fact that, a certain circular thing with spikes in 2020 was so impressive that at least one smart person would literally see a shape of a shining sun as "a virus". 😂
I din't noticed it
interestingly enough, the thin layer of atmosphere on the sun is called the "corona" 💀
@@PrinceMekhel Yeah cuz it's like the sun's crown lol
i love how no-one is mentioning how Joe took the story in a sharp turn. he turned ice into dice, actual actions into evolution and literal people into figurative embodiments of animal populations!
Yeah, from an information preservation standpoint, he put in a huge distortion. Said something completely unrelated to even his nearest neighbour. Perhaps, its easier to say for us viewers because we had the full overview of the flow of information starting right from the original information, but it was a huge distortion even if we just take the last two stages.
Joe actually did really well--he looked at the animation as a whole to figure out what coherent narrative it *could* be telling, and reconstructed that narrative perfectly. If he'd been earlier in the sequence, he would have likely passed on the original information really well.
The problem was one of Garbage In, Garbage Out--if the input doesn't carry a coherent narrative on its own merits, it's impossible for the next link in the chain to reconstruct that narrative, so they have to come up with a narrative of their own. Overall, most of the information was generally lost in the translations from narrative to animation--to the point where on Jabril's turn, he couldn't wring any sensible narrative out of the animation at all and simply described the animation instead.
I like how by the time of Jabril’s explanation, he was so confused that he had to explain the twelve months as a series of three flowers, three suns, three withered leaves, and three snowflakes. Then again, shaking a cup of ice for twelve months to grow your muscles is not a topic you can pick up on immediately.
Admittedly, figuring out that Grant was drawing about miscommunications from science to social media is just close enough to media sensationalism by itself that that misinterpretation is not bad.
Tom, Diana, Jabril and Joe
The four horsemen of "It fits the thing, it'll do"
I love how it goes from "Beer doesn't make you stronger" to "Evolution is like a game of D&D"
It went from "Don't trust clickbait science" to "Studies have proven that bartenders are strong" to "Ice shaking makes you strong" to "Level up your strength stats using dice"
that dumbass mentioned d&d for no reason.
Zetsuke4 talk about how jabril just didnt follow the basic instructions and described the shapes he saw
sounds like a Vsauce video
@@luckyblockyoshi
Hey vscause Michael here
beer makes your arms stronger.
Or does it?
**vsauce music starts**
1-4 near perfect
3b1b: really good but difficult to interpret
Dianna: she got the memo but heck that was a bit misleading, wonder how the next will...
Tom Scott: eLBoW
Jabril: flower 1-3, sun 1-3, leaf 1-3, snowflake 1-3
@@mohamedaboubakr1758 joe managing to pull it all into a coherent video was the icing on the cake
feel like dianna's misdirection was on purpose since there's no way she said "that's how fake news is made" without having known the original point, so she knew but decided to mess with the later people
Petition for more of this? I understand not wanting to bog down your main science-focused channels with this kind of content, but I for one found this to be greatly enjoyable and a much-needed dose of levity in our 2020 world. If you guys made a secondary channel and occasionally did other group games like this, I'd definitely watch it regularly.
I would enjoy this as a very occasional treat. Make it an annual thing?
Everyone before Tom Scott: We are able to interpret the visuals accurately to some degree
Tom Scott: I am gonna do what’s called a pro gamer move
Physics girl destroyed it
Then comes Jabril...
@@player-8740 Jabril after TierZoo is literally one of the worst possibilities for him
Dianna tho
@@danieltabin6470 yeah
i genuinely love how absolutely westward tom's rendition took it. it went from fake news to confirmational study in 30 seconds
Because at that point, the video didn't have anything to indicate any of the information was false. Which explains a lot, except for why he decided to just make bartender's elbow.
Diana’s narration was the link in the chain that derailed everything.
@@jaksida300 ehh, 3b1b's was very bare bones. You wouldn't know what it was supposed to convey without the guiding narration either. She did the best she could with what she was given in her own style.
@@leotamer5 I think the graph that the animators did was wrong - in most things, the beer was the x and the muscles were the y. In theirs, the cats were the x and the beer was the y,
@@Uwu-hq4bt good god someone noticed that, starting to think that what I thought was wrong wasn't wrong
I like how everyone was sticking to the same idea, then it gets to Dianna and she just chooses to interpret the information as literally as possible. aN esSaY ThaT mAgiCAllY coPieS itsElf
Literal interpretation creates the funnies stories
It was clearly 3blue1brown that quite derailed the situation. His illustrations were too vague that right off the bat when his illustrations started while the one before him was narrating, I immediately thought "oh no those illustrations are going to get so misinterpreted". Try getting someone who hasn't seen this yet to watch his part again without audio and ask them to describe what it's supposed to say. Then show them the illustrations before Grant's then ask them again what those mean. I hypothesize that they will be so starkly different
@@chrisj4288 a person, presumably bald...
You say that because you had the information when looking at Grant's visuals.
Grant is great at uniquely and creatively visualizing and abstracting data which is fantastic allowing people to see math in new and fresh ways... but isn't as strong at clearly conveying concrete narratively structured information.
Dianna is great at clearly and concisely conveying complex literal information to a broad audience, which is perfect for science communication... but that isn't the strongest skill set for constructing a connected narrative based on largely abstract imagery.
I think it's more impressive that the original meaning lasted as long as it did and less surprising that the meaning broke down, especially when people are doing things outside their wheel house.
@@GivenFailure I think the original meaning lasted as long as it did because the first few were people from the "minute" channels, and thus were more in tune with one another.
This was really fun!
Imagine that you were there, i think it'd be so funny
Steve kinda sus
@@smonke4377 And imagine if Matt Parker were there… 'The dice don't add up along all the axes, but they're still pretty good, so give the cat a beer anyhow…'
@@nomadMik I wonder if there could be a version of this done with markers on brown paper, not to mention the occasionally-interrupting Australian...
Wait, why haven't you become a verified channel yet?
"ok, this is going pretty well so far"
"...no dianna... DIANNA, NO"
"....jabrils, what are you doing..."
I think he spent time on it, then gave up and went to the most obvious thing
It was kinda more 3b1b than Dianna lol
@@OatmealTheCrazy
“3b3b”
@@thatoneguy9582 I noticed and was just really lazy cause forgot what thread it was in
I still cannot wrap my head around someone not realizing those were months...
I've read a few AI papers and Jabril's description makes total sense. He sees boxes on screen, he's going to describe the boxes on screen.
I love how the "strength" motif was the only thing left by the end of the video!
Yeah. As a programmer, his mind is really analytical and objective, so he just points out exactly what he sees on screen
Tom Scott is the chaotic evil in this story. He literally made up a story just throw everyone off. 10/10.
Basically, a normal Vsauce video concept in which Michael jumps from one topic to the heat death of universe. But took 15 TH-camrs.
Oh I wish Michael was in this. Or even jake.
Beer makes you stronger...or does it?
@@Jouzou87 cue vsauce intro music.
Asjad Ali
oh, michael would be amazing in this
physics girl's and Tom Scott's narration just had everything go off the rail.
Honestly Jabril's narration was also very .... Different...
Personally I found that 3blue1brown to physics girl is when things started to go off topic.
The moment Physics Girl started talking I choked.
The egg man ikr
Original Video: There were no human Trials
Tom Scott: There were human trials
I love how everyone's personalities come out with what they see. Seasons become video game powerups. Glasses of ice become tumblers of dice.
Kate: *explains how data can be misleading*
Henry: *re-explains in a more literal sense*
Arcadi: *re-explains to much younger people*
Dianna: *re-explains with a more comedic effect*
Tom: *sounds like a Wikipedia article*
Mithuna: *sounds like an advertisement*
Vanessa: *sounds like fake news*
Jabril: *says whatever that is happening on-screen*
Joe: *supports his bizarre point*
Edit: I fixed some of the wording in this comment.
I wish I could like this comment twice.
I love how some of them, most notably Physics Girl, Braincraft, and Jamil, clearly just had **no** idea what to do with their material lol
And then It’s Okay to be Smart definitely clutched the ending by some making sense of that madness
Tom Scott looked like he knew exactly what he was doing, but he secretly had no idea what he was doing.
@@vidblogger12 it's something of a British superpower
Can we just appreciate how Joe somehow managed to singlehandedly pull this runaway train back onto a completely different set of rails?
I know, right? That's like forcing a goat to endure progressively more deforming and debilitating mutations until it randomly becomes Arnold Schwarzenegger.
*joe turned water into fire*
Smooth af... except for the "...probably even snowflakes" part XD
@@cj-seejay-cj-seejay I think that was like the smoothest part imo that he managed to saved
@@benthomason3307 I almost spit out my coffee reading that
What i like about this is that it shows how a youtubers worldview can effect their delivery of content. Physics Girl tries to make science fun and accessible, but this sacrifices substance. Tom Scott covers obscure facts, so focuses more on building a story than on rigorous facts. Jabrils is a programmer, so his description is purely objective to a fault. Tier Zoo's work is focused on a video game aesthetic, which changes the context of the source material. As viewers of all these channels, I wonder how much our own worldview is shaped and warped by these channels delivery!
fanrco And 3blue1browns graphics are very aesthetically pleasing but since much of the context is supplied in the audio they are not as helpful. They are more about going the extra mile in visualising and understanding something rather then just describing it.
Fascinating observation!
@@Lucy-ng7cw You too!
Flower 1-3, sun 1-3, leaf 1-3, snowflake 1-3
Oh no I had never thought about it that way. It's hard though, because I watch these videos for 'entertainment', so I'm less concerned about getting balanced/correct information than I would be if I was doing proper research for academic purposes. But I am learning and absorbing information from them nonetheless. Perhaps it's worth thinking more about what lens I'm being presented the info through.
"Flower 1-3, Sun 1-3, Leaf 1-3 and Snowflake 1-3 replaces from Sun 2 to Snowflake 1 with strength in the sequence..." is my new life motto.
what's funny is that tom Scott's BS actually makes sense.
right? it makes more sense than the original one
@@a12i9 You have just been seduced by his sexy voice.
@@j2dragon109 😂😂😂 guilty.
He 100% could’ve told me that and I just would’ve been like “yeah yeah, alright I can believe that”
the way Tom Scott says anything is just believeable to me
Physics girl: a clear upward liniear trend
OSMOSIS: Draws a slightly sloped line
Also curved.
@@laurencefraser yeah kind of what i meant, wrong word my bad
5:38 for those who couldn't find it
Nice to know I'm not the only one who noticed, if you ask me that's a parabola.
…which is, basically, linear!!
"you see a clear upward linear trend"
animator: *shows exponential trend*
me: oh c'mon
The *trend* goes upwards linearly- not the curve itself.
The trend is equivalent to the first derivative. If it goes up linearly, then that means the curve goes up exponentially.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 the derivative of an exponential function is still an exponential function.
even if you were right in the first part, you arguing wrongly in the second part when you say that: the derivative is linear so the function is exponential. no! the antiderivative of a linear function is a power function not an exponential function. to conclude: your line of argumentation isnt even consistent in itself
@Cole's too cool i was commenting on a scene at 5:37
yeah same
yeah an upward linear trend would mean a graph of x^2, most likely only the right side
The Danielle to Joe transition was amazing!
Ice is dice
Sun is virus
Flashy upgrades is evolution
“It’s probably a real thing”
“I JUST MADE UP BARTENDERS ELBOW”
It’s a real thing, lol
Bloxing Noob ZERO lol
Bloxing Noob ZERO That's what's even funnier about it!!
There's actual result that pop up which made that WAY more convincing
Everyone else: trying to stay relatively close to the previous one
Tom scott: *Im gonna do whats called a pro gamer move*
“I’m not going to name names but I can see where the confusion started”
-Joe Hanson
People in the comment section are happy to name names.
It was Tom, it was definitely Tom.
Dash Perú
Grant started it, but Dianna and Tom continued it.
I love how Jabril's mind works like a computer lol
tom went so hard with bartenders elbow even though he wasn’t even close
The cats stayed for much longer than I expected.
It's the internet.
Cats are the internet
And beer
Alcohol stuck around for even longer
Can we take a sec to give Joe from it's okay to be smart some credit, he made the god damn story make some amount of sense again.
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That was amazing. He took a completely nonsensical story and he managed to interpret it into something actually sensible. Had it not been for him the telephone would have ended up with a gibberish mess.
Yes, I agree with you.
We read with 'our sense of things'. It seems good - if it matches the common sense/current understanding of things in this society at this point in time(which seems to be the case in this example), it seems bad - if it doesn't. In fact when we look at history and before we judge people and societies, we should appreciate the fact that they could have made perfect sense in that time and space, and 'We' are in a different time and space with our own set of prejudice and understanding of the universe.
For example, look.. who knows, for a future society Jabril's reading (which 'now' might look random to 'many of us') might make a lot more sense than Joe's.
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You could tell by Jabril's narration that he indeed is a programmer lmao
A matlab programmer
It was so disconcerting to me to hear my favorite science TH-camrs (especially Tom Scott) spout some bullshit and make it sound totally believable lol.
I fully believed bartenders elbow 😂
It's actually a real thing too! My sister and I read through a few articles. I don't know the specifics but I remember reading about it being real.
@@DingDingTheTH-camBuddy It probably would too
It's as if what he says turns into an actual fact
@@comfortableovertones haha yes!! Tom Scott has not led me astray!!
After watching Tom's "Two of these people are lying" it just sounds plausible!
"Flower, 1 to 3... sun, 1 to 3... leaf, 1 to 3... and snowflake, 1 to 3, replaces from sun 2 to snowflake 1 with strength in the sequence" - Jabril 2020.
First few: Stay relatively on-topic.
Physics Girl: I'm a girl of physics, not statistics.
Tom: _Time to get zany._
9:40 when you don't know what to write in your test but wants to increase the number of words
5:39 Diana: you see a clear upward *linear* trend
Osmosis team: *draws curve*
I kinda want to see the weird version of Chess that Jabril sounds like he's describing.
Flower 1 to 3
Sun 1 to 3
Leaf 1 to 3
Snowflake 1 to 3
I can't stop laughing 😂
I loved the way jabrils reacted to danielles illustration by just dying inside
6:15 I like how Tom Scott took the images so literally.
MinuteEarth declared Tom Scott's hair as officially gray now. It's settled.
Tom got like 15 years older in 4 years
I'm pretty sure Tom Scott's hair has always been gray or at least gray-ish. That man was born 55. 😅😋 (As noted by a person born 55)
@@chrysshart Nah, go watch his videos from like 5 years ago and he basically looks like a different person
Better yet, find a clip of him on Only Connect!
@@chrysshart He was born in 1984
Dianna: Imma end this whole story's carreer.
I would say she worked with what she had, really it's all 3b1b
@@volodyadykun6490 The oldest anarchy artist in Telestrations
@@volodyadykun6490 I thought 3b1b's video was pretty good tbh
Tom: Hold my bartender's elbow
@@jamief415 it makes sense in context, maybe not muted
Disappointed that Tom Scotts stick figure didnt have a red shirt on at the start.
You simply MUST do this again. This is one of the single greatest YT videos this decade
People are saying it derailed in Tom or Diana, but my hypothesis is that the cause of the derailing was the lack of emphasis Grant put into showing that the data had been passed along several people and that that fact was what changed the data, Diana didn't know and so that part was lost and by Tom the message was only about the data and only talking about the data made everyone else interpret data and make up what that data is supposed to represent
Tbh yeah that part was vague. It didnt look like anything happened to the paper
Agreed. I think it illustrated (hehe) nicely how hard it is to make good illustrations. His animation was nice as a support to the text, but couldn’t carry the narrative. Compare it to the animations from the minute earth team! To be fair though, they were passing the story within their ranks, and they’ve worked with each other for years.
The same with TierZoo. Their style of animation is just not meant for the same purpose animations like Scishow and Minute earth are.
I'm not saying they are bad, Grant's animations fits his explanations so well, it is really easy to follow them, and TierZoo have a really nice style of presenting content you don't see anywhere else.
Ok but what about *bartender's elbow*
Agree.
Grant provided good naration to animation transition, but his animation can't be translated into naration properly anymore.
You can clearly tell where everyone gave up trying to understand what was provided as source and made stuff up.
That final save by Joe made the script seem well-written.
"WANNA WRITE A BOMBING TITLE FOR YOUR ESSAY!?"
Some youtubers: "well, that animation is weird, but I will try to make sense out of it!"
Jabril: "I don't care, I will just describe what I see..."
tom is the only TH-camr to have clothes in this, because that red shirt is integral to his very existence.
_Maroon_
The most interesting part about this is how they choose to interpret the drawings. Some decide to make a story out of them, some just flat describe what they see. It's all in the interpretation, how a glass of ice becomes a cup of dice.
Wow! That's a great saying.
"That's how a glass of ice, becomes a cup of dice."
Everyone: media twist studies findings about beers and cats
Diana: *ESSAYS*
I can feel the trauma
Joe: actually sane
Diana was really bad wtf
@@alexp6013 diana is just tyring to be funny lol
Not gonna lie, I’d literally watch hours of this. Heck, I’d watch a sequel, where you have the ones who drew reading, and visa versa XD
Same!!!
This video is one of those I wish I could upvote more; one of those rare times I wish TH-cam had a 'SuperUpvote' that users could apply a limited number of.
More detailed information for upvoting would be great (like a five-star system as seen in many places) but I'm guessing there are two major difficulties with that:
1. More storage space required. I have no idea how all the videos are saved because they aren't small files. But with millions, probably billions of videos, storing even 3 more, integers to each video could add up.
2. The transition would probably be the bigger problem.
How do you convert likes and dislikes into that new system to keep old content and it's evaluation relevant in the new system.
@@sebastianjost TH-cam used to have a star based system many years ago, but I think they stopped not because it was tough on storage, but rather because it was harder for The Algorithm to direct the videos for the different people
Yeah, they really knocked it out of the park with this one.
If it makes you feel any better, you are mortal, and your "normal" likes are limited, like your life. You are a blip in time and your spent some of it here. Super!
_youtube wants to know your location_
I love that the moment it got to Tom Scott, it relates to history
Yea you can see clearly how he storytells
I love how crazy and unscientific it got by the end, and then Joe bringing it back with something actually educational with real learning points, great video it'd be awesome to get more of this kind of stuff down the line c:
Yeah, between all the chaos, he managed to make sense of it! That's a skill I would like to develop xD
(Yeah, making sense of life with D&D analogies (?)
Also, I really like your pfp! :D
Up until 5:35 I thought it was possible the game could get back on track based on illustrations... but when the axes of the graph were switched around I knew it could only go downhill from there because whoever looked at it would think the cat/person/arm was the independent variable.
‘This is the point it went off the rails’ THE CATS. IT WENT OFF THE RAILS WHEN CATS WERE REMOVED. THEREFORE CATS ARE NECESSARY TO HUMAN EXISTENCE.
Heard it here first folks
What if that is the fake news they said initially.
But cats are awesome anyways
Edit: also that logic is post hoc ergo propter hoc
After cats were introduced it only took a few steps for it to devolve, dogs never ruined it and therefore are better
Also beer.
I like how this comment is an example of the original idea
Hear me out: Jabril had a good strategy, but coming after TierZoo's metaphors was the one time that it would've backfired :P
I love seeing all the styles of narration and animation, and I laughed with joy at the sheer creativity
tz didnt use fkn metaphors! he just kept his good style
@@Zetsuke4 because the flowers, suns, leafs and snowflakes arent metaphor for seasons yeah right
@@Zetsuke4 Nobody's bashing tierzoo. His whole channel is based around using video game metaphors to describe nature
If he had come after anyone else it would have worked out fine.
The message was going through so well, then it got turbulent with Grant and Dianna, and past Tom there's no hope in fixing the transmission's technical difficulties.
What a brilliant game and collab this is. Would it be too much to ask for more like this?
Heheh technical difficulties
@@isnotav No mystery biscuits for Tom
Someone biscuit that man.
11:38 Playing telestrations will give you a heart attack.
Thats a hilarious miscommunication