for those intrested... the valve compression tool is the FACOM U.43LA cost around 220 euro.. good tools cost money! i have a set of 57.euro.. and it broke half way the job soo..
@@islandworks I wish I had your skill set Jonas. I have a modified 964 that’s driver experience / back roads focused in the US. Your work on such a cool car and your wonderful conceptual & technical explanations are a gift in helping me to better understand my own car. Many, many thanks.
Just binged your 964 build over the past couple days and I'm super impressed. I'll be building a 911 in the next couple years and I'm going to borrow a lot of ideas from you!
15:53 The holes between the oil rings are actually to allow oil caught between the oil rings to escape through back into the piston and sump. They are there to prevent oil accumulating between the rings and passing by into the combustion chamber. The cylinder walls and skirt are lubricated by splash/ oil squirters.
@@islandworks These holes getting clogged with sludge are the main cause of oil consumption in engines. If oil becomes stagnant in between the oil rings it cokes and becomes sludge, reducing the effectiveness of them. The lower ring is supposed to scrape oil off the cylinder wall down, the second ring scrapes what the first missed and evacuates it inwards through the holes. Just started watching your videos, they are entertaining.
I don't even have a 964, or an engine to build, but I am going to print out your tools (first 3d print ive ever done with my new printer) just for the hell of it and put them on my shelf of cool car stuff. Awesome build!
Wow, I do like your colorful xtra plastic tooling you quickly manufakture for your build :-) Nice to C ya @ work on the engine. I used a piece coppar tube to push my my clips in.
Love your videos. Love your eye for details. Love the mix. #Porsche964 #Porschebuild Use more tags on your videos. You do it when you upload your videos. More Porsche lovers need to see your videos..
Hi! Thanks for the feedback. I’ve filled up the search keywords with Porsche and Porsche964 for my videos but doesn’t seem like it’s being picked up. Does it help if I add the #porsche in the actual description as well? Most of my views currently comes from organic views of people watching something similar.
Been watching all your videos!!! Man the quality just keeps getting better and better and one of the few series I’m looking really forward to seeing whenever there’s a new episode! Keep it up! Amazing build!!
Worst part of the assembly besides getting the cams timed in where you want them. JB racing makes an Adjustable Cam Sprocket Set that makes that accurate and easy as well
SUCH a great episode- it demystified the process that seemed so daunting- makes me think I can actually do my own 3.6 once the time comes- I've built many engines in my young days with my Dad at his mechanic shop- but Porsche motors have always seem SOOOOOO complex- this really isn't bad so far. Sure- lot's of little parts- but it's all manageable. Thanks! Love the tools you create- you can sell every one of those- the ring "tunnel" and plunger are nothing short of brilliant. I'll buy them- and most likely so will every Porsche specialist out there! It's always true though- it's best to save up and buy the necessary tools before you start a job this labor intensive- the right tools make the job manageable. Stromski makes some REALLY helpful tools for Porsches.
I learned by doing a little bit more every time. As long as you allow for ample time and take it step by step it is very doable. This German engine is very logical also!
@@islandworks Quick question- what resource do you use for the "step by step"? Do you Adrian Streather's book or something else? I'm thinking I'm going to do it myself- I'll have plenty of down time to do it next winter- but I need a step by step resource to refer to so I don't screw everything up!
@@islandworks Thanks! I didn't think Bruce had anything on the 964 before he passed away but I see the original is updated to 1996 now on the 911 Performance eHandbook- I have the old one so I'll get the new version. Just downloaded the official repair manual too- pretty comprehensive. Thanks so much Jonas!
The Bruce Anderson book might not be specific to the 964, but the steps are very similar between the different air cooled engines. The first one I did was a 2.7...
Did you ever try the diy circlip plunger using two sizes copper plumbing pipe (one inside other) to make plunger similar to a Stomski clip plunger? I have not done this job yet ..🥴. Amazing the 3D jigs you make 👍. Great channel!
I saw it on RL years ago, something like 1/2 inch fitting just happen to fit perfectly inside a 3/4 inch fitting, hence, plunger 🥳. My dimensions might be off, I’d have to tinker at the big store. 👍
I thought about what you said about one cylinder running hotter. Did you check the oil squirter for that piston? Because the squirters job is not to lubricate its to cool the piston, it was an addition the the engine design in the early 70s. The holes in the piston you are half right abut them, just the other way around, they are there to remove the oil that the oil rings scrape on the cylinder face. I haven't watched your other videos, but I hope you have scraped the old oil coolers and gotten new ones after the engine failure.
Thanks for the feedback! I always thought about the holes in the piston as means of pushing oil out, and maybe you’re right, it’s the other way around...and you’re right, the squirters mainly cool the pistons as well as facilitate oil entry into the small end lubrication hole on the top of the conrod. The engine never really failed and I was surprised to find this damage as I took it apart for inspection. The excessive heat can actually be seen on all of them. This was my struggle last season... Oil coolers are all new and twice the capacity of before. There’s an episode on it if you like to see.
The piston holding tool was to provide support to the piston as it lies flat and that part worked fine. What I need to get is a retainer clip insert tool making that part easier.
@@anidiotinaracingcar I printed it in PETG and it broke due to the pressure from the retaining ring. It might still be possible with a better material.
@@islandworks You have some PLA, which is stronger (shit temp resistance but quite stiff). You could also have a PETG/PLA "sleeve" to guide the ring but you would still use a pair of pliers
Is there not a copper gasket that goes in between the cylinder and the case?I know on my 3.4 Turbo engine there is,maybe it's different on a N/A 3.8..Your Mahle pistons looked fully coated not just on the skirts.Thanks for the excellent content I wish I had confidence to make videos you really do a fantastic job.
Thanks for the feedback! The old 911 had flat gaskets in the bottom if I remember correctly. This newer style gasket is based on a viton type rubber and will keep tight even if there is some rubbing or displacement. It also won’t affect the stack height as the flat gaskets does.
@@islandworks Gotcha,I appreciate your time.I just found your channel and going back through your past vids great job especially on bonding the Kevlar quarters.I was friends with a guy out hear in Ca.his name was Dan Mclochlin and owned a company named A.I.R he did alot of development for 935,934 body kits.
It most definitely will get hot, but still well within the design limits. The original 964 also uses a smaller size rubber viton type seal. The factory 3.8 RS uses the same concept I have.
You are using Nickies cylinders with Mahle pistons. What piston to cylinder clearance do you have, you got help sorting this out? I'm asking because Nickies are usually used with JE pistons and those are made of the same material. Mahle makes their piston and cylinders of a proprietary alloy that have a different expansion.
I have my 993 engine down to the short block. I have easy access now to the thru bolt o-rings (which may have leaked). Is it ok to take these bolts out and change the o-ring on the nut side? Or would i have to change the o-ring on the bolt side too?
@@yjmsrv I have put that minute because I think the segment has to be filed backwards not forwards, I have explained myself wrong. 4:26 th-cam.com/video/UTen3mEeY0I/w-d-xo.html
What I always do is to make sure I file downwards (in respect of the ring markings) and always in the same place, then checking the edges afterwards. This is how I learned how to do it and has worked for me so far 👍🏻
I love how you’re a lot like me when you scratched coating putting in cylinder 1 when you say oh well pity when inside there’s a nuclear bomb detonating
As others have mentioned, I also love your use of CNC design and plastic printing for prototyping and assembly jigs, the only thing that I don't like is the fact that you are getting way to close to finishing the project which means I will have less to view :-[ . Please don't just cut it short at the end [like so many youtube projects do] , show us a good walk around the finished car and please please take your camera's with you when you take it out on track. Thanks for the amazing car entertainment and good luck with the new 964kg weight goal.
Always impressed with the jigs you print up to make the job easier. Really enjoying this series.
Thanks!
Same! I never would've thought of printing a little thingy that made the job easier (not that I can even print anything).
The algorithms are algorithming, I'm just mad its taken this long to find this channel!
Welcome to the fun!
You sir, have got these things sorted out. And yes, the retining ring tool is worth the money -- it's so simple.
Thanks! I will buy one of the ring retainer tools next time…
for those intrested... the valve compression tool is the FACOM U.43LA cost around 220 euro.. good tools cost money! i have a set of 57.euro.. and it broke half way the job soo..
That’s the one! Thanks for finding the name and model!
Wonderfully informative video - great editing - thank you Jonas!
Thanks! Few things are as stimulating as building a Boxer engine!
@@islandworks I wish I had your skill set Jonas. I have a modified 964 that’s driver experience / back roads focused in the US. Your work on such a cool car and your wonderful conceptual & technical explanations are a gift in helping me to better understand my own car. Many, many thanks.
Your video deserve a way larger audience than you have. It is a shame
You are doing incredible things and your videos are fantastic
Thanks for the feedback! Still waiting for TH-cam’s algorithm to find my channel ;-)
Excellent project I’ll be watching progress
Thanks and welcome to the project!
Just finished binging all your content. Simply amazing.
Found your channel while looking for C1212 and Rotary switch info.
Thanks for watching! There is more info on the Motec stuff coming soon!
Just binged your 964 build over the past couple days and I'm super impressed. I'll be building a 911 in the next couple years and I'm going to borrow a lot of ideas from you!
Please feel from to reuse any of the ideas!
15:53 The holes between the oil rings are actually to allow oil caught between the oil rings to escape through back into the piston and sump. They are there to prevent oil accumulating between the rings and passing by into the combustion chamber. The cylinder walls and skirt are lubricated by splash/ oil squirters.
That’s great insight. I got it backwards ;-)
@@islandworks These holes getting clogged with sludge are the main cause of oil consumption in engines. If oil becomes stagnant in between the oil rings it cokes and becomes sludge, reducing the effectiveness of them. The lower ring is supposed to scrape oil off the cylinder wall down, the second ring scrapes what the first missed and evacuates it inwards through the holes. Just started watching your videos, they are entertaining.
Thanks for the additional comment. It makes sense!
Enjoy watching!
I don't even have a 964, or an engine to build, but I am going to print out your tools (first 3d print ive ever done with my new printer) just for the hell of it and put them on my shelf of cool car stuff. Awesome build!
Wow, I do like your colorful xtra plastic tooling you quickly manufakture for your build :-) Nice to C ya @ work on the engine. I used a piece coppar tube to push my my clips in.
I really wished I had that copper tube :-)
Great video, nice to see the process. Fortunately for me my 356 only has 4 pistons & jugs to install, which I should be doing next month.
Great job. Nice impression 3D tools
Awesome channel
I absolutely loved it. Can't wait for part 2!
Love your videos. Love your eye for details. Love the mix.
#Porsche964 #Porschebuild Use more tags on your videos. You do it when you upload your videos. More Porsche lovers need to see your videos..
Hi! Thanks for the feedback. I’ve filled up the search keywords with Porsche and Porsche964 for my videos but doesn’t seem like it’s being picked up. Does it help if I add the #porsche in the actual description as well?
Most of my views currently comes from organic views of people watching something similar.
Super clean work. Nice enginuity with your 3d-printed tools.
Been watching all your videos!!! Man the quality just keeps getting better and better and one of the few series I’m looking really forward to seeing whenever there’s a new episode! Keep it up! Amazing build!!
Every Swede that works on Volvo engines should have the Facom spring tool, is a Volvo special tool.
Excellent video as usual !
That Stomski circlip injector really makes life a lot easier on the install....
I wish I had one of those!
+1 on the Stomski tool
Worst part of the assembly besides getting the cams timed in where you want them. JB racing makes an Adjustable Cam Sprocket Set that makes that accurate and easy as well
This is my favorite step! Got a nice little tool for it that I will show once I get the heads back!
Who CNC’d your heads? Very nice..
Amazing
SUCH a great episode- it demystified the process that seemed so daunting- makes me think I can actually do my own 3.6 once the time comes- I've built many engines in my young days with my Dad at his mechanic shop- but Porsche motors have always seem SOOOOOO complex- this really isn't bad so far. Sure- lot's of little parts- but it's all manageable. Thanks! Love the tools you create- you can sell every one of those- the ring "tunnel" and plunger are nothing short of brilliant. I'll buy them- and most likely so will every Porsche specialist out there! It's always true though- it's best to save up and buy the necessary tools before you start a job this labor intensive- the right tools make the job manageable. Stromski makes some REALLY helpful tools for Porsches.
I learned by doing a little bit more every time. As long as you allow for ample time and take it step by step it is very doable. This German engine is very logical also!
@@islandworks Quick question- what resource do you use for the "step by step"? Do you Adrian Streather's book or something else? I'm thinking I'm going to do it myself- I'll have plenty of down time to do it next winter- but I need a step by step resource to refer to so I don't screw everything up!
I recommend Bruce Anderson’s book but I’m sure the others are good.
@@islandworks Thanks! I didn't think Bruce had anything on the 964 before he passed away but I see the original is updated to 1996 now on the 911 Performance eHandbook- I have the old one so I'll get the new version. Just downloaded the official repair manual too- pretty comprehensive. Thanks so much Jonas!
The Bruce Anderson book might not be specific to the 964, but the steps are very similar between the different air cooled engines. The first one I did was a 2.7...
Nice video! Do they make c-clips with eyelets to use with the plier tool for the wrist pin retainers for the piston set?
Did you ever try the diy circlip plunger using two sizes copper plumbing pipe (one inside other) to make plunger similar to a Stomski clip plunger? I have not done this job yet ..🥴. Amazing the 3D jigs you make 👍. Great channel!
I will have to dig into this. My method is painful to say the least even if it worked very well down on the bench.
I saw it on RL years ago, something like 1/2 inch fitting just happen to fit perfectly inside a 3/4 inch fitting, hence, plunger 🥳. My dimensions might be off, I’d have to tinker at the big store. 👍
great vid,so interesting. cant find part 2 of engine assembly. help!
Part 2 is still on the drawing board so to speak. I’m getting there soon though I hope!
@@islandworks thanks will look for it
Always look forward seeing your video's and this build, awesome stuff!! the beast will be amazing
Just found your channel and it’s an absolute amazing channel ! Keep up the good job
Thanks!
Looking forward to see what engine weights as would like to see if you have taken any weight out of it really enjoyable content.
I have a few tricks up my sleeve on the engine ;-)
Hey that´s my car! ;) Grymt jobb, kul att se! Jag ägde den bilen i några år. Körde den en hel del på bana, väldigt tung på den tiden.
Den har gått mycket bana sedan dess ;-) kul att höra från dig!
Kul att höra. Jätteroligt att se den och bygget!
Awesome work - my ocd is asking why you didn’t have the block dry ice cleaned - everything thing else is so new and shinny.
I wanted to do that (or a similar process) but didn’t want to split the case.
I thought about what you said about one cylinder running hotter.
Did you check the oil squirter for that piston? Because the squirters job is not to lubricate its to cool the piston, it was an addition the the engine design in the early 70s.
The holes in the piston you are half right abut them, just the other way around, they are there to remove the oil that the oil rings scrape on the cylinder face.
I haven't watched your other videos, but I hope you have scraped the old oil coolers and gotten new ones after the engine failure.
Thanks for the feedback! I always thought about the holes in the piston as means of pushing oil out, and maybe you’re right, it’s the other way around...and you’re right, the squirters mainly cool the pistons as well as facilitate oil entry into the small end lubrication hole on the top of the conrod.
The engine never really failed and I was surprised to find this damage as I took it apart for inspection. The excessive heat can actually be seen on all of them. This was my struggle last season...
Oil coolers are all new and twice the capacity of before. There’s an episode on it if you like to see.
@@islandworks Good that you catched it before it got catastrophic, saves money :) I'll watch some more episodes.
18:40 I thought the print was to help place the ring. Why didn't your tool work?
The piston holding tool was to provide support to the piston as it lies flat and that part worked fine. What I need to get is a retainer clip insert tool making that part easier.
@@islandworks Yeah, I got that. But at the end, you show an attempt at making the tool but it didn't work. What was the isue
@@anidiotinaracingcar I printed it in PETG and it broke due to the pressure from the retaining ring. It might still be possible with a better material.
@@islandworks You have some PLA, which is stronger (shit temp resistance but quite stiff).
You could also have a PETG/PLA "sleeve" to guide the ring but you would still use a pair of pliers
great videos. you have great eye for details. thanks for the inspiration!
Is there not a copper gasket that goes in between the cylinder and the case?I know on my 3.4 Turbo engine there is,maybe it's different on a N/A 3.8..Your Mahle pistons looked fully coated not just on the skirts.Thanks for the excellent content I wish I had confidence to make videos you really do a fantastic job.
Thanks for the feedback! The old 911 had flat gaskets in the bottom if I remember correctly. This newer style gasket is based on a viton type rubber and will keep tight even if there is some rubbing or displacement. It also won’t affect the stack height as the flat gaskets does.
@@islandworks How does the viton rubber not get too hot and disintegrate? That really surprises me- much be one well engineered rubber!
@@islandworks Gotcha,I appreciate your time.I just found your channel and going back through your past vids great job especially on bonding the Kevlar quarters.I was friends with a guy out hear in Ca.his name was Dan Mclochlin and owned a company named A.I.R he did alot of development for 935,934 body kits.
It most definitely will get hot, but still well within the design limits. The original 964 also uses a smaller size rubber viton type seal. The factory 3.8 RS uses the same concept I have.
You are using Nickies cylinders with Mahle pistons. What piston to cylinder clearance do you have, you got help sorting this out? I'm asking because Nickies are usually used with JE pistons and those are made of the same material. Mahle makes their piston and cylinders of a proprietary alloy that have a different expansion.
They actually come as a set from LNEngineering.
I have my 993 engine down to the short block. I have easy access now to the thru bolt o-rings (which may have leaked). Is it ok to take these bolts out and change the o-ring on the nut side? Or would i have to change the o-ring on the bolt side too?
Since you’re already in there, I would change both sides.
What will you use for sealing rings - the stock 993 ones?
I used the stock 964 rings. There are better options out there, but I also tend to tear my engine down often…
nice video btw which 3d printer do you use to make some parts nuts and etc..
I use a Prusa MK3S+. It’s a good reliable printer.
10:43 you have not scratched the cylinder with the segment? because the tool you are using to make the gap bigger is used the other way.
No not at all. This is also checked every instance.
What do you mean? At 10:43 he's grinding the ring- how would that scratch the cylinder? And how could the grinder be used any other way? I'm confused.
@@yjmsrv I have put that minute because I think the segment has to be filed backwards not forwards, I have explained myself wrong. 4:26 th-cam.com/video/UTen3mEeY0I/w-d-xo.html
@@jona_ej2330 Gotch- thanks.
What I always do is to make sure I file downwards (in respect of the ring markings) and always in the same place, then checking the edges afterwards. This is how I learned how to do it and has worked for me so far 👍🏻
what is that tool he uses at 13:43 ?
That’s a taper gauge. It’s a very standard kind of tool.
A better tool to reference is the valve ring grinder.
I love how you’re a lot like me when you scratched coating putting in cylinder 1 when you say oh well pity when inside there’s a nuclear bomb detonating
I will definitely buy the retainer ring tool next time!
My god man, you have a tool to adjust oil rings?? :D I’m guessing this is a little beyond amateur level. Nice job and nice vids!
As others have mentioned, I also love your use of CNC design and plastic printing for prototyping and assembly jigs, the only thing that I don't like is the fact that you are getting way to close to finishing the project which means I will have less to view :-[ . Please don't just cut it short at the end [like so many youtube projects do] , show us a good walk around the finished car and please please take your camera's with you when you take it out on track. Thanks for the amazing car entertainment and good luck with the new 964kg weight goal.
Thanks for the feedback! Don't worry, I have tons of ideas left :-)
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