Engine Rebuild Part 1: Short Block. 1969 Porsche 911T. The Canary Files.
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- Finally starting the engine rebuild!
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See case halves come together always makes me happy! Great work and thank you for documenting.
I started the series on this video, then stopped halfway through and went back and started the whole series from the beginning. Great stuff
there are few things in life more rewarding than assembling your own engine and hearing it come to life. Great job!
Thanks! It's also very nerve wracking! Can I ask how you heard about the channel?
@@kavs911it actually popped up in my recommended videos. I watch all sorts of engine buiiding/ tuning videos.
@@jessemurray1757 Thanks for watching Jesse!
I doubt I will ever be in a position to own a vintage 911 but I can live vicariously through superb videos like this.
Aaron Brandes you can always buy the books about all the Porsche’s on line like I did. The added benefit is there is no factory service intervals & storage area is relatively small.
They are cheaper than you think if you stay steady on looking for one.
Estate sales and divorces are two situations where deals come up often.
I Had a 1969 911T a few years back, it was the love of my life and so much fun. But I can tell you this everything on the car costs billions. EG, someone broke into the car and stole the CD player. To get in they broke the quaterlite. They come in 3 colors, mine was smoked brown, £225 to replace the glass and fit....that was 20 years ago.
They were affordable not too long ago. I picked up a ‘69 911T for about $8000 25 years ago. Needed a new floorpan but the engine was solid as far as I could tell. Shouldn’t have ever sold it, didn’t realize how much the value would balloon.
shelbyz1988 I sold one for £5000 18 years ago, same sentiments as you now, should have kept it. So reliable and a pleasure to own.
Great video! I thoroughly enjoyed watching and learning thank you! Can’t wait for part 2!
Great stuff and great editing. Thanks for making it! Also have watched all of Mike M's '67 restoration videos, and can't wait until he gets to the engine also.
Just for noting; I've done the intermediate shaft repair on the newer engine (a serious design flaw). I grew up with the air-cooled engines, Still have my mechanic's certificates from Porsche Audi and VW and attended the schools, and also had a thorough racing background. The air-cooled engines weren't perfect, they had chain tensioner issues, the seals would turn into concrete, freezing everything in place, but they are still great machines and I can't "Warm-up" to the newer engines. That's old age for you. In the seventies, I had to buy some of my own tools to work on the engines because the dealer in Tucson managed the tools so poorly. I was fired because I took too long to rebuild a badly damaged 911 engine while the fellow next to me was wiping covers off, so it looked like he had adjusted the valves. Rebuilding these engines is not a flat rate job.
Very unfortunate story. I wish we all would have seen what was coming back then. As years pass we were getting closer and closer to this DISPICABLE Woke virus outbreak. I too was fired for nothing more than being Over-qualified. That was the beginning. Soon we got Participation Trophies and no winners and losers. What I would give for a time machine
Love the work you are doing. Yours and Mike’s 911 resto videos are part of life’s small indulgences I look forward to all the time.
👍 *life's small indulgences*
Awesome stuff Mike. Love your work. You have inspired me to get hold of an older 911 and recon the vehicle, engine and all, which I would never have tried to do prior to your videos. Thank you
Thank you so much for uploading these wonderful rebuild videos!
You’re doing a wonderful job at explaining everything, taking your time and putting every bit and piece together with love and patience. Lots of respect!
Mautaz Al Sabbagh thanks!
what job ? engines are not lego toys,, if youa seembly or before it you ahve to check everything and test it.. otherwise forget it,, it will not last or perform well...
I'm lucky to have stumbled upon this series! Great quality video.
Amazing level of precision engineering
Thanks
A beautiful and meticulous engine rebuild. It's truly a work of art! That 51 year old block looks practically brand new. I'd love to have a space like yours to work in, you're obviously a true craftsman and unlike most people, you think *before* you act and potentially make a mistake. Moreover, your attention to detail is nothing short of mesmerizing. Literally nobody possesses this quality now days. I wish you many years of happy motoring in your awesome vintage 911.
Great video and progress!! Thank you for sharing!
I thank you for this. Actually find it very relaxing, where I was previously anxiety ridden at the thought of an engine rebuild, you make it all as clear as day.
Thanks Johnny!
After watching this video, I went and put on some latex gloves, took out my tools, and changed that burnt out lightbulb in the bathroom. You and I, we arent really all that different - Thanks for the inspiration!
Glad to help!
Hhhhhhhhhhaas you done job awarded
Thank you so much for this video, I hope to oneday be able to rebuild an old porsche one day.
great video, really enjoy the time and care taken in assembly and filming.
YOU'VE INSPIRED ME
TO DISMANTLE MY NEIGHBOOURS CARS
WHILST THEY ARE AWAY ON HOLIDAY.
Hey, Mike M sent me! Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
OUTSTANDING!! I forgot how much fun a 911 engine is to rebuild. The killer part is the cam timing. Can’t wait to see the rest of your rebuild. Also glad to hear that Ollies is still the best!
Great videos - can’t wait until you get it all back together and fired up! There’s no way I could tackle something like this, so next best thing is following someone who is braver than me!! V satisfying to rebuild your own classic 911 engine!
Fantastic. Yes MikeM is wonderful too! I really love your videos. Best of luck with the rest of the assembly!
Thanks Gary!
Great series. One suggestion: when using the torque wrench adapter, keep the adapter perpendicular to the torque wrench. Allowing the adapter to run parallel with the wrench adds length, thus, leverage, resulting in an inaccurate torque value. Not a big deal with many applications, but fairly important with internals like connecting rods, etc.
Yes understood. I was measuring the stretch value not so much the torque
Got here via Mike M's recommendation of your work, whose work I also admire greatly. Love what I see especially the modification of Brembos to your front axle. All good stuff, enjoying it greatly, keep up the good work. Thanks for the education. Thanks for the entertainment.
Subscribed. Liked, and like.
Cheers!!
Really loved the detail. Thank you.
You sir, are a dying breed of craftsmen who take pride in their work.
Using a screwdriver on Tab-Washers? BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
Spectacular! Thank you sir.
Good job. I rebuilt a 69 t engine in the early 70s on the dirt floor in my brother’s garage
Kav da Master, man I love ya style, your technique , never seen the rods connected to studs via rubber bands and really why wouldn't you do just that, I got so evolved , thanks Sir
I had a 1972 911T Targa and I remember all those operations. I did the align bore myself, so hearing what you paid for it was a shock! Those stretch bolts are a lifesaver!
Thank you so much for doing this!
Love it. I do like marking the bolts I've torqued. Easy to see what has been done and not done.
Good Idea!
SingleCab Steve an essential step, done with a bright, easy to identify color paint pen.
SingleCab Steve ...Great advice. I also use it as an indicator if something goes wrong. If you run the paint mark from the nut/bolt across to it’s mating surface you can see if anything has come loose while in operation and identify possible causes of failure or problems.
That was fun to watch. Good work. Very impressive.
Thank you!
I had a '69 912 in 1971 - 73. This is a cool throwback, in a way.
you rock. thank you for making these videos!
I really enjoyed your video. You were quite meticulous in keeping things clean with lint free wipes and I really enjoyed your stretch measurements. That's a pretty expensive measurement tool. Nothing is ever cheap these days. Thank you.
It’s all expensive!
Probably the most profesional engine build i ve never seen... congratulations!!
Thank you!
New subscriber. Love this video : methodical, attention to detail, great informative commentary, nice videography/ lighting/ sound.
Thank you!! Can I ask how you heard about the channel?
I bought one of these engines back in 1986. It was to fit in a Porsche replica. Covin. The engine had destroyed itself due to the old 911 cars having a mild steel oil tank which corroded. Sending rusty oil through the engine. Porsche using a oil filter on the return instead of on the feed. After a complete rebuild I then grafted the engine to a VW beetle gearbox. Everyone said it could not be done but we managed it using a 924 clutch plate grafted to a 911 centre. The car went like a rocket but was not very fast due to the Beetle gearbox final drive ratio. Cost £500 for the blown engine. £350 for crank regrind & shells. Ran beautifully. It was a 2.2T engine with the triple I think Solex carburettors. Your build is superb.
When you extend the length of a torque wrench by fitting a tool to give you access you change its leverage. You should use the torque wrench at 90 degrees to the tool. It has the same effective leverage it’s just offset. However you checked the stretch of the bolts and if in tolerance you are covered. Nice workshop setup I dream to have one like it one day. Good video work. Thanks Tony
The torque wrench click on torque value not on force value. Changing the lever or not appliying force at 90° does not matter because only the end torque is measured.
a bit more detail on effects of extensions on wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_wrench So most of the time handle extension is no problem. If the wrench mechanism rotate around the bolt i guess any extension would be fine.
@@TheAntoine191 You are dead wrong. Anthony W is correct. Imagine if the torque wrench is 0.1m long, and the extender tool is 1m. To torque to 100Nm "click" you must pull 1000N on the wrench (0.1m*100N=1000Nm). If we look at the torque as seen by the nut being torqued, the arm is 1.1m, and the force is 1000N, so the torque is 1000n*1.1m=1100NM or 1100% too much. The 90° is the normal rule to fix this, but what you actually need to do, is make sure the arm from your hand to the bolt is the same as the length of the torque wrench arm. It will be a little more than 90°.
@@erikev you say this because you're thinking it's the force that makes a torque wrench click when it's directly the torque that makes it click. All torque wrenches rotate around a pivot. Then a few torque wrench rotate around the bolt, those can be used with any kind of lever, crow foot or angle no prob. Same for electronic ones. They are instrumented to measure directly the torque not the force you exert. Then most torque wrenches have a measuring pivot close but not perfectly on the bolt. So those are intended to be used without extension or crow foot. However using a handle will mess the measurement but only a fraction because the measuring pivot is close to the bolt. Then an extended crow foot will mess it significantly more (bad idea).
If you want a quick experiment for angle try to make a torque wrench click by pushing directly on it (0°). Even at a low setting it will never click because no torque is generated on the measuring pivot.
@@TheAntoine191 A torque gauge does not measure torque but measures force on the bar at a fixed distance from the pivot point and converts that to torque.
The extension he was using is what is referred to as the Crows Foot and requires the equation as shown in the link because the effective reading point of the torque gauge is further away from the pivot point and angled.
This would be evident to anyone with grade school level of physics.
This is all irrelevant as his final measurement was of bolt stretch and not torque and I would hope that kavs911 would know this but telling us that or by using a ring spanner with the stretch meter would have clarified that he is not making a stupid mistake in an initial stage of the assembly.
You post a link to reinforce your point but did not read the subheadings.
Using handle or socket extensions requires no adjustment of the torque setting.
Using a crow's foot or similar extension requires the use of the following equation.
This guy is uncanny, that is, the quality of his work. Certainly not the first time he's gone downtown on the bus by himself ! Super clean installation, the way it should be !
I like the sound that magnesium alloy makes when something taps on it.
Love watching this. Quality work. I am in the process of replacing the head studs and might even think about splitting the cases fter seeing this. Thank you!
Good luck Nigel!
Great work ethic ! Almost an operating theatre in fact it's probably cleaner than an NHS operating theatre ! Great video !
Hahaha! The wait times are about the same too! Can I ask how you heard about the channel?
kavs911 It came up in my recommendations . 👍
Work of art!
This is how you rebuild an engine. Clean, methodical, clinical.
I love the rubber bands solution to an old problem, well done there it made my day!
Great work, looks fantastic. Love your videos, please keep them coming! Have helped inspire me with my own 68 912 project.
Thanks Andrew!! 68' 912 sounds like a great project!! Online anywhere?
Sadly I haven’t been keeping up with videos as I had originally planned. Lots of fun though with a few frustrations to keep things really interesting.
Fantástico workshop . 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Very good meticulous and quality work. Well done !
Neat little engine!
I believe that stretch tool is designed to be left on the bolt while tightening, so you can stretch to the exact amount. Taking it on and off could risk stretching beyond required amount. Loving this series, good job!
Cool deal, glad the Engine Rebuild book worked well for you!
-Wayne
Wayne the book is an amazing resource! Congratulations on putting all of that together! Hopefully you can see it in person at a future cars and coffee! Can I ask how you heard about the channel, I seem to have gathered a new audience recently?
Beautiful directions to how to re assemble! Giving me great motivation to rebuild the engine in my truck!
You've got a Porsche engine in your truck!? (That was my attempt at comedy Mark!)
@@kavs911 LOL No, but looking at a porsche motor for my BMW! I have a 58' Ford truck.
@@markjeffels3327 Porsche in a BMW! \Would love to see that!
awesome build...been following for a while, good to see you making progress.
Cheers!
Love this,meister👍!🏎
Always good to watch:)
Oh my world, I love your work, so clean😍
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to be rebuilding my 1984 3.2 engine in the next few months. I've never done a 911 engine before, your video is very helpful. Thanks again.
Fantastic build and a really well produced video.
Thanks very much! (I'd be driving it last summer if I wasn't making the videos! :) )
I haven't watched Mike M's work, but I doubt it could be more fastidious than this. This is clinical stuff. Thank you. Also thank you for the time frame to do all this. Far too often, I think, frustration sets in if it's not "going fast enough". Good work takes time.
It would've been done long ago if I wasn't filming it!
You are doing or have done a great job. Just discovered your journey and a thoroughly enjoying it. What you are doing is aiming for perfection. Obviously perfection is never possible but by aiming for perfection you end up with a high quality professional level result. I am sure as you went along you could feel in your gut that it was progressing well because of your attention to detail and your controlled patient pace. I am an ex mechanic and am admiring your commitment to the task you have set yourself and your approach. :-)
Great video series, love it!
Hi Kav
I just got a torque wrench adapter as per the one you use the torque the rod bolts - with the instructions. To quote them: "when you mount the adapter to a torque wrench, you effectively lengthen it; therefore the torque value set on the actual wrench will not be the actual torque that you apply on the fastener... before using the torque wrench adapter you must recalculate the torque specification... you must use the extension formula included with the wrench". The formula is R =( T*L/L+A) where R = the corrected torque reading, T = the actual torque reading, L = torque wrench levees length (centre of grip to centre of drive), A = torque adapter length (the one you use is 3 inches). When using 3 inches for A, the torque wrench and adapter must be in line; if the adapter is positioned at an angle to the torque wrench, A will be decreased... when the adapter is at 90 degrees to the torque wrench, distance A will be zero...
Hope this info is of use as I recall another poster saying something different, so I thought I'd quote directly from the manufacturer as I guess they should know what they are doing!
Your work (and videos) are truly amazing and inspirational... my 2.0 normal is in rebuild at the moment; it is the first time it has been apart since 1973...
Cheers
SAS-USP thanks for the info! Yes I understand, with the rod bolts I was measuring the stretch value as the key measurement.
You would think the torque wrench adapter makers would supply a conversion chart, they should know what difference their adapter makes?
@@BILLHOVER The adapter makers don't know how long your torque wrench is.
Thanks for taken time to reply, that was a nice build, but If the adapter is a fixed length, and the torque wrench delivers the fix torque you set it to, were does the torque wrench length come in, 100NM on any torque wrench is 100NM is it not, or did i miss something here, and was there a reason why you did not just use an extension bar and socket to torq the cap bolts up, as that would minimise the risk of errors, i know not so important if you measure the stretch, but in a torq only roll, you don’t add a risk if you can avoid it.
I noticed that when installing the head studs using opposing nuts that you used open ended wrenches to tighten the nuts. I would recommend using the box end to avoid spreading the open end wrench flats. Just a thought to save the tool as you can exert more force on the box end. For any instance where you can use the box end during exerted force I would never use the open end. Beautiful build.
Incredibly cool video! Thank you!
Nice work.👍
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Thank you!
Very enjoyable thanks for taking the time
Thanks Robert!
Great video! I rebuild a 911 engine every 5 years or so and I'm always looking for reference material. To measure the deck height, use the plastigage on top of the piston. Assemble piston, cylinder and head. Slowly turn engine over by hand. If you feel any resistance, stop! Then disassemble and check plastigage for proper clearance. Add or subtract spacers to get the clearance where you want it. If the plastigage is slightly thinker when you test you will have lower compression, but more safety if you miss a shift. Can't wait to see the next video!!
Thanks Andy, I will give the plastigage a go.
I thought my addiction to building old 80’s BMX’s was expensive. Just your engine block repair covers all my costs
Yup, These things are expensive! Can I ask how you heard about the channel?
kavs911 recommended by TH-cam. I look at restoration videos and yours came up.
Absolutely excellent filmwork.
Thank you!
Beautiful craftmanship. Love to achieve this build too.
This is TRULY Awesome viewing
Thanks! Can I ask how you heard about the channel, I seem to have gathered an new audience recently?
Great video, just what you tube should be about. Gives me confidence on my 911 turbo engine rebuild. Cheers
Sounds like a great project Stuart.
Good grief, such a well designed engine for it's era. You have huge balls even taking on this rebuild yourself but I give huge kudos for doing it. Such precision and faffing around to make sure it is right, I'm sure it has all been worth it.
Bless you.
Fantastic video. Subscribed
I was in Denmark riding in a Porsche 911, and a Datsun 240Z passed us up like we were standing still, and they guy driving could not catch up with that car. It had a turbo installed. Once I got home, I purchased a 70 model Datsun 240Z, and It was one of the early models, it was really fast. No Porshe could keep up with me, and no 350 engine cars could either!!, it was very fun to drive!!!
@Dean Gibbons Yes, that person passed pretty fast. You were not there, and i was. I saw it with my own eyes, the driver of the Porsche did not even try to catch up with him.
Wonderful work! You inspire me to do more myself! I have a '70 914/6 that needs the carbs cleaned/rebuilt but I also have a strong "whine" at all RPMs in the engine and I don't know how to go about finding it. It could be as easy as the alternator/belt/pulley or something major "inside"! It's louder than the exhaust note which is really too bad! Great work.
Nice ! :o good professional job.
Great job! Noticed the thrust main insert was installed out of the box, machine shop checked the "End Play" if so, Great job -once again!
Yes machine shop took care of that.
You do such a neat work.great music too
Thanks! Can I ask how you heard about the channel, I seem to have gathered an new audience recently?
@@kavs911 Utube recommended!
This is great inspiration. My dream car is an air-cooled 911.
Great video....
Amazing
This is awesome. ! Helped rebuild Ford small blocks before , it was pretty fun. However this looks like wayy more fun. I've been bitten by the Porsche bug..! Great video..
I was a licensed aircraft mechanic back in the early sixties. I worked in general aviation and for the Air Force. The basic tenant of aircraft work was neatness and organization. Without learning and practicing these two attributes you could not hold a job. Look inside a GA hanger and you will see sparkling cleanliness and Uber organization. All is in its place and well organized. Your video reminds me of the perfection demanded of us. Your attention to minute detail is obvious as is your knowledge and forethought put into this project. For instance you took the time to explain why reusing sheet metal lock washers is a bad idea and measuring the length of a seated stud is a worthwhile precaution In dealing with a minor detail. Last but not least the engine manual was at your elbow, this speaks most directly to your professionalism. There is no guessing when the manufacturers detailed instructions are at your finger tips. You separated yourself from other assembly videos merely by displaying the manual without apology. I'm signing up.
Wow thanks Tim! Hope you enjoy the rest of the videos and you can follow the journey on Instagram @kavs911
They use studs on the bottom and bolts on the top because it just makes getting the trans mounted easier (and the starter)...usually while in the car. Volkswagen did the same thing for years. Your definitely on the right track swapping them out for studs, especially since you have it out and will probably put the trans and engine back in as one piece....I would assume anyways. Much much much better...especially when working with aluminum/magnesium. Very cool, good work! Looks like your doing everything the appropriate way with the arp hardware and using the mic (stretch gauge arp calls it) and so on to measure your “torque” values, you won’t regret it. Love how methodical you are as well with your cleaning and prep, an absolute must for a quality build. You don’t get to see older Porsche stuff too often. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
Enjoyed the video.
I've seen some engine rebuilds where you felt like engine is desintegrating at ~4000 RPM.
Good rebuild requires perfectionist and tons of manhours.
Modify the flywheel bolt double hex socket.
Remove the roll pin, extract the socket and shorten the allen key section. Remove 50mm from the socket end with a cutoff wheel. Reassemble without the roll pin because you wont be able to drill a new hole for it (hardened)
I loop a rope through the rods to lift and place the crank in position. Makes it easy to control the placement. Good job with taking your time and detail in what you did. Most don't even attempt
krystoph m Thank you!!
Well done. Methodical & purpose driven. I wonder if one is hiring people to work in an office does one take into account such activities to determine those who are detail oriented. I don't have a Porsche, don't have a car, have a 1998 2.5l Ford Ranger 2WD manual transmission. I don't have a garage, but I manage to do basic things like oil changes, water pump and timing belt change etc on the street, but I love watching such videos as it inspires me in small ways to take on tasks that I haven't ever done knowing I can probably do it.Thanks for sharing..
great video
Nice to see you using ARP rod bolts. Make sure you use ARP assembly lube before you torque Love the 911 flat six
This was really nicely narrated and edited. If I ever rebuild a Porsche engine, I'm going to refer to this series.
Thanks Michael! Means a lot coming from you! Enjoying your TH-cam journey too! 👍
That looks like a aircraft engine, nice.
Looks like a very updated Lycoming 540 ...
You got kind of close to the crankshaft journals with that anaerobic sealant. I have known mechanics who accidentally glued cams and crankshafts by doing that. The hardened glue can also cause galling to the rotating parts. I usually just apply it around the bolt through holes at the center of the case, to prevent the Loctite from accidentally oozing into the crankshaft journals when the case halves are bolted together.