A steel baton saved my life years ago when I was taxi driving. Dude pulled a knife out on me. Knocked the knife out of his hand. Broke his right forearm and egg knots all over his head. I quit taxi driving two months afterwards. My wife made me.
I'm a retired LEO with 34 years of service. The last agency I worked for issued all officers a collapsible baton, when we transitioned from the solid "nightstick." It was, like all of the equipment on our belts, a tool to be used in a use of force escalation. To me, it was the most versatile tool I had. Oftentimes, I'd use it to poke around in areas where I didn't want to put my bare hands or, maybe a makeshift pry bar. I've seen them used to break windows in an emergency. I used this tool numerous times for its intended purpose of defensive strikes to muscle groups (legs and arms), and achieved the immediate pain compliance desired. Now that I'm retired, I still carry one on my person while providing lawn care services. It's way more practical than carrying my handgun while I'm working, sweating, and slinging grass/debris all over myself. Thanks for this review, well done!
Retired state L.E. here, did 30 years. Really good video. I'll add one thing, Training! Know strike points, pressure points, joints and large muscle points. Striking with authority as well as follow through techniques. Definitely not as simple as one would think but this is an extremely effective weapon in the hands of someone who knows how to use it.
Thank you for your service sir. I have trained Law Enforcement Officers and civilians in the use of a knife and baton. The Filipino Art of Escrima has a lot of techniques that can be applied to knife, stick, Machete, empty hand, etc. In the training we did stress drills including 21 foot rule scenarios. In every class a student would fall while moving backwards or fumble with their training weapon, etc. etc.. Under stress simple things aren't so simple. I totally agree that good training is important. I was blessed to not only work as an armed security officer, reserve Sheriff's Deputy, but also work unarmed as a Mental Health Associate (MHA) in mental hospital hospitals/day clinics in Texas and Arkansas. MHA work is humbling and teaches you to use verbal judo and such. Weapon training is good to know, but it's best to keep techniques very simple and able to be executed with either hand. Good video on baton my friend from Virginia...:)
For us gun guys, this was an eye opener. When you train with a gun you soon learn the 21 foot rule. This is the distance a person can be on you before you can draw and fire. With the baton it gives you more time to defend. Also, you don't have to worry about killing someone in the background.
I always carry an expandable spring set up. Gives a good whip effect. I also wrap the handle in white paper so I can carry it in my hand in dicey areas. Makes it look like I'm just carrying a rolled up sheet of paper. Enjoy your videos.
The Tueller Drill, was once shown by Doug Marcaida, against a gun defense trainer. I have since determined that, I will surround myself with claymores. And hold the clicker. During my 60 years of training, I have always taken extra interest, in the stick fighting methods. Neck and head, are points of desperation. Learn the non-lethal points first, to stop or disable the attacker.
I’ve been carrying an expandable baton since 2001. It’s a good choice because it can be used without a lot of training. You still must practice with it, but its use is more instinctive than other weapons. My youngest boy was in the Air Force Security Service and they teach its use as a body manipulator as well as a striking weapon. I usually carry a 16” baton, and keep a big fat 12” collapsible baton in the car.
I do much the same. Collapsed, the 16" will slip into a coat or pants pocket and be less noticeable than the belt holster for the large ones. Since I can also have my hands in that pocket, I can also draw it more quickly. For my car I have two justifiable tools, a tire iron and a small hammer for breaking a window to escape.
Great video my friend. Being 70 and not able to go toe to toe with a young man makes a Baton and bear spray a couple of good options. Really like the information that you give to all of us and thank you so much for your time in doing so.
its not about going toe to toe even Im 24 but I dont want to have to break this thing out, yet I will if someone puts me ina situation where I think I’ll end up in danger since fighting unarmed is not much safer. I dont see it as a matter of fighting on equal ground, so much as hopefully stopping the fight altogether intimidation is good enough in bad situations, the baton is an escalation sure but also a deterrrent
@101evo I completely agree. I'm about four months away from 80, 5'5" and about 155lbs. If I am attacked, I have no choice but to defend myself with whatever I can because I can't even outrun a crippled turtle. A cane and a stun gun (always make sure it's fully charged) or also good options in my opinion. A cane is the only weapon which one can legally carry anywhere. It can be used to strike, maintain distance, re-direct movement, jerk a person's foot from under them, knock objects from a person's hand. A solid blow to any hard surface where the bone is near the surface (wrist, knee, collar bone, shin, etc. is rather discouraging to almost any attacker. It can also be swung in a circular movement to discourage multiple attackers. Thrusting it FORCEABLY into a person's solar plexus is also rather 'distracting'. I prefer a solid cane of hardwood, polymer, etc. (hollow aluminum canes are pretty much useless for the great majority of people.) I prefer a cane with a u-shaped handle with a pointed tip. If you hook it into a soft part of the body and that point starts digging in, it's not a pleasant experience. Of course this fact is ALWAYS true. "The rider prepares the horse for the battle, but the victory is in the hands of the Lord."
I have been carrying an expandable baton for 10 years or so. Thankfully, I have not had to use it in a defensive situation, but it has been used to de-escalate a bad situation without being used. Very formidable weapon.
I live in south africa. 29 000 muders per year. Here you have to carry a bag full of weapons just to go buy bread from the shops. Excellent video my friend.
The only thing I will add is you have t know your state laws with these items. In TN, the baton is not covered under your CCP. You have to take a class and get a specific license to carry a baton. It's a 5 yr certification here in TN.
That's why I like the cane (and your previous video on canes). The cane is already in your hand. I've carried an expandable baton and like them, too. I've done that experiment with a cane, and at 10' I can be set for a charging knife attack. The key is you have to know it's coming, but if you can get that cane on your shoulder, the leverage and speed of that first strike is powerful. If they have a knife, I'd focus all my attacks on disabling the hand that holds the knife. Keep the baton moving, it can strike multiple directions quickly. It's also possible to train your opponent. Throw 2 or 3 hard from your upper right to lower left, this can be done out of range. Make them think that's what you're going to do. Then on the next swing, drop your wrist to get under their guard, and do a hard thrust to their sternum. I do this sparring with a cane, longsword, saber & dussack. It is amazing how often it works. The longer the baton, the safer you'll be until you decide to attack.
Just came across your videos about 2 hours ago. The first one I saw was you addressing "comments" to a prior video for elderly. I admire you for making one addressing that!!!! I am... 1) A female ...2) my husband passed away January 12,2022...3) I just turned 60 in February ( I'm still 23 in my head, lol), and most importantly, I have been assaulted ! Luckily, I used my car keys between my fingers and jabbed into his legs! I never seen it comin. He came from behind as I was getting ready to put my groceries in my car. This was 4 years ago. I carry a fire arm and wasp spray (will blind a person)! I've trained with my firearm for 15 yrs. I can guarantee that even the best trained female still cannot compete with a man (maybe a small percentage/ respectfully.) I train now in evade, learning if I can't get away and I know the person is trying to take me down to allow that to happen but learning how to fall and delivering pain, long enough to get away! It's retraining our brain. I'm 5'8 125 lbs...so I know my legs is my biggest strength (as of now) I have never ran from a fight but realizing as a female absolutely run away, " No Shame to the game! " Live for another day. Sorry for the novel.... Just wanted a small part of my life and especially now living alone, female and turning 60.... I just purchased the 21 inch Baton. If you have any other suggestions for me I would be SO grateful! Now, continuing watching your videos. Jada Shadoe...
I carry a 16 inch regularly at work. I've added a pocket clip and it rides nicely in my pocket. I will say, stay away from the light weight models. Their lock up isn't as tight as the steel
One of the self defence exercises I have done for years which very few mention or seem to do is practice covering a short distance REALLY quickly. The ability to cover 10 feet from standing in less than a second has real benefits in many real world scenarios.
Good video. I’m an instructor for PPCT (Pressure Points & Control Tactics) Also batons are used in the training. All LEO’s and Protective Service Members, are trained personnel and know 11-12 ft. Is a kill zone if the subject has an edged weapon. Remember they attack, and most people take 2-3 seconds to react. So 1-2 strides the bad guy is on you. Bottom line Training is paramount. In regard to batons the one I carry is a break away holster. So that I don’t have to cross draw or pull up, instead it breaks to the side and extends immediately. Thus far it’s been awesome and so much faster to deploy. Good tips in your presentation. As you had said practice and know your state laws, along with knowing where to strike and why. Appreciate ya. 👍
They can be effective weapons. Obviously like most all blunt melee weapons it can be grabbed, so one has to watch for that & they tend to be illegal in some places but other than that....
I have two batons, a 21 inch and a 26 inch. They both have that checkered, rubber, diamond pattern on the handle. If I'm going into a big city area I will carry one of these. They have that belt carry holder but I have this black zippered pocket case that has a belt loop. It does take a little longer to get out but that case carries it secure and unseen under a shirt/jacket. I can walk around with the zipper open, with it ready to go and it's still secure. These are a great defense tool, very versatile. They can be lethal but I really like the fact that they can be used so very effectively as a non-lethal form of self defense. That feature can keep you out of a lot of trouble. I tend to fake moves and direct an attack toward the legs. The lower legs even striking the shins/knees can cause pain and briefly incapacitate an attacker. Giving you time to get away. And as you mentioned these batons can give you that most needed bit of distance between you and an attacker. That's a very important thing to remember. When I had a guy come at me in the Food Store parking and it was dark out. It wasn't a Self Defense situation. This guy was asking for money and he was a little aggressive. I was ready with my Cold Steel Voyager Tanto XL in my pocket but it wasn't required. What I did do was keep the shopping cart between myself and this Panhandler until my refusal for money led to him turning around and walking away. Mind you I kept an eye on his path until I was safe in my Truck. Out in the street if you don't have a shopping cart you can use other things to give you, not necessarily distance but at least separation. Like a garbage can, light pole, hydrant, sign post. Anything that can impede an effective attack. I really like these batons though, it's a comforting feeling when I carry one of these. It's like having someone else with you.
Very well done! I learned quite a lot. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, believe or not, we could not carry any kind of striking weapon "in public view," that was in the U.S. Border Patrol! Later a collapsible side handle baton and then an ASP collapsible baton was issued.
Asp leverage cap for the friction lock is a must have upgrade.it truly changes the impact area for the better from the change from the angle in which the baton strikes. I got all mine with the leverage cap.
One good place to carry, IMO, is in a cargo pocket with your wallet, or maybe a dummy wallet, on your dominant side. Particularly a 16 inch baton. Throw the wallet as part of the baton deployment.
A buddy from California told me that they recently made these and Billy Clubs legal to carry FYI love your vids btw keep up the great content brother 🤝🏻
As a blind person, I always carry one of these, on planes, everywhere, even can have one in prison. It is called a foldable cane, which is basically a series of interlocking metal pipes on a thick piece of alastic. It can break glass and dent cars if swung hard enough and swung at a head, it could kill if necessary. I carry a gun and knife too, but would use such a weapon first and draw my gun or knife with my free hand. Best not to pick on the blind.
I carry one larger one without sheath. It colder times I slip into a side pocket that is featured along the side of the right leg on Carhartt pants that makes it very easily accessible and hides it very well. I also sometimes carry in my hoodie pouch, or in warm weather in an unzipped fanny pack.
As a self-defense instructor for the last decade, this is an excellent overview of expandable batons as a defensive tool. You do a great job covering the most important point... you have to actually train with it. In the hands of a martial artist, it's a phenomenal defensive tool, especially against knives or fists... in the hands of someone who just bought it but never practiced with it.. the attacker is VERY likely to just catch and grab the baton... if the defender even gets it out. I tend to recommend bear spray for anyone who isn't likely to devote serious time to learning a melee weapon.
As a retired LEO of Over 20 years on the job, your mention of bear spray brought back a memory from my time as a rookie. I was with my FTO still and we responded to an assault. Upon arriving and talking with the victim, we learned that he had attempted to use pepper spray against his assailant, however he did complain that when he attempted to spray the pepper spray at the victim that the pepper spray did not deploy. Which in turn allowed the assailant to attack the victim. After finishing taking the victim's statement and description of his assailant, I asked to see his pepper spray. What I noted was that the victim had purchased bear spray instead of pepper spray and as such you MUST take the safety off prior to being able to deploy using the bear spray. One last thing, it is not recommended using bear spray on a human and in some states you can be charged if used against a human or even someone's pet. So please check your local and state laws prior to purchasing bear spray to defend yourself. I would hate for anyone to get arrested for using it against a human or even a pet!
I carry one daily , and consider it a decent option for self defense when I may need to stay at range . I wouldn't consider it a 1 shot stopper , for that I carry a 10z sap. I have cleared many a storm drain with it as well , and even scored a few pears and apples ! Mine is the 26" Cold Steel, I like the bigger size and weight and the price is great.
this is my first video on your channel Very coherent and to the point detailed instructions and advices given on this video Liked and Subscribed,Thank you.
Thank you for showing this! I had been a security officer for many years and always carried one of these thank God I never had to use it because they hurt and hurt bad!
The draw - and especially the type and placement of the scabbard/holder - is a HUGE factor in speed of deployment. Velcro straps, rubber grips with deep retention pockets, and poor positioning on the belt are potential fails.
Saved my bacon many many times. while being the only white officer on foot patrol in Springfield, MA in my area of patrol / Washington D.C. at the Embassy we had a mix of styles. the little cheap $12 Ninja Sticks (cheap replica of the WW2 OSS spring baton) was easy to carry, we loved them(used mine during an assault, dropped the attacker quick with a knee shot) The shoulder rig for the ASAP is a nice way to carry and will take sm to large batons. TRAINING TRAINING & Training is a must with these once you have the muscle memory it becomes 2nd nature on deploying and using them. i do keep 1 strapped to my sling bag now for when ever i go out on day trips, and i still have a few of my Ninja Sticks for carrying on my person.
Some places treated as a billy club. So check your local laws on both baton and billy club.look how to use.modonock has a good video on how to use these.basicly you use the ok sign as a grip and go for big muscle groups. Try not to go for joints. It will break them.
I’m in England and here it’s tell the assailant to hold on a second while I phone the police🤣🤣 Law says no self defence or weapons. Common sense self preservation overrides stupid laws.
Thank you for the video, good info. I have one as well, but I would like to see a model that has a loop strap on the bottom so that you can put your hand through. This way it cannot be easily taken away or hit out of your hand. I think this upgrade option would really help this awesome protect by a lot.
Nice video! I’m sure you realize this ; but your videos are interesting and entertaining because they are insightful and thought-provoking. And, you don’t take 30 minutes to say something that could have been said in 15 minutes. Thanks!
Great advice! Other advantages of a baton: (1) Four-legged threats are more likely to be intimidated by what looks like a stick rather than a gun. Also, if you have to defend yourself, a dog's owner is less likely to be upset by a necessary baton strike than by a gunshot that seems excessive. (2) Because cops are armed, they are less likely to enforce ambiguous weapon laws on someone with a baton rather than a gun. A baton is seen as less dangerous than what they carry.
bear spray causes even less harm. No harm actually and is more effective. It would be pretty difficult to effectively strike a front-charging dog without causing him injury
I love the idea,and have owned a couple. If youve ever been hit in an actual confrontation with one you know they are crap. Unless you can put that ball in a good spot with a power swing ,they are crap. Sorry guys ,walt disney deceived us about our women and hollywood turned violence into candy.
The 21 foot rule / test is one of the big reasons I carry a revolver... A semi auto can only be used in a gun fight or at distance a revolver can be used in a gun fight or a scuffle that goes to the ground no slide to go out of battery to my mind at best a law abiding person can react to a bad guy so to me it's important that tools used for self defense need to be flexible so for the reasons you touched on here and others I keep a 21" baton and a Ruger 357 on me 24/7
I’m sorry man but you’re completely wrong on the revolver reliability!!! Not just my opinion but a well established fact nowadays, proven over and over again in SEVERAL situations and scenarios. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to make sure you have EVERY advantage you can 👍
Great video. I have different sizes (12, 16, 21) for different times of the year and what I am wearing. You can also use the baton for disturbing their motility (strikes to the knee cap, shin, had and forearm are extremely painful). You can also sweep with it by hitting the Achilles tendon.
In Oregon it is illegal to conceal carry weapons like the baton. You have to open carry it. It is a good weapon and I worked as a security guard and am certified by ASP in baton and handcuffing. I have the 26" ASP baton. The best way to avoid legal trouble is to be certified in the use of batan by ASP or some other respected program and only use it non lethally. This will also limit your ability to protect yourself. If you must use it lethally respect the baton like a firearm and only pull it out if you must save your life. Such as hitting someone in the head or face. If you do this and the court deems the event a non life threatening situation you will go to jail. Remember your state laws. But in a serious fight with no rules and no concern about laws the baton is a deadly weapon. Learn a Filipino Martial Art to use it better than the cops.
There is some true science with this weapon most people don't know. The greatest power and speed with this weapon is the very tip. Striking with it 4 inches down from the top still works but you are giving up 4 inches of distance and energy. A quick tap on the cheek, nose, teeth, Adam's Apple, fingers, temple, center forehead, knuckles will cause explosive damage. Destroying the fingers of the hand carrying the knife will end the threat. Slashing the forehead over the eyes will cause enough blood loss to cause them to be not be able to see you. Don't give up the tip. It is where the true action and power are. Try it on a melon and see. Try it on cardboard. It tears like a dull knife.
I carry one while walking the dog, good for animals, four legged or two legged. This is my first choice for defense, second would be my knife, last would be my gun.
Bonowi CamLock expandable baton does not require an impact on a hard surface to collapse the baton. In fact, that wouldn’t even work with this model. There is a button to depress in the pommel (the base of the handle) that unlocks the shaft and allows it to quietly collapse at the user’s desired speed. You can even collapse it one-handed while gently pressing the tip into your other palm, hip, leg or abdomen (or literally any surface) without any negative repercussions, because once the extended shaft is unlocked, there is no resistance during its collapse. The extended shaft will also freely rotate if your attacker grabs the baton while it’s in use, as your grip remains firmly fixed in place on the stationary handle. This prevents your attacker from twisting the baton loose from your grip once/if they grab it. It can also be opened and locked into the fully expanded position silently and stealthily - or it can be expanded rapidly using the swing-open method as shown in this video. Finally, and arguably, most importantly, it will NOT easily bend when striking it against a solid object, like those $20 junk batons will. Hence, why they cost $150+, typically. It’s a superior design. Highly recommended.
This is a well presented video. I carried a 16 and later a 21 inch on the job for 25 years. Previous agency where I worked issued straight sticks and later expandable PR24s while I worked there and ASPs after I left. Never had to use the expandable baton, but it’s always good to have less lethal options. Well executed and applied restraints may also work effectively. Only things I would caution are to check applicable state laws where you live, where you travel, and spend some time each week training. OC spray may be more legal in some states than others.
6 meters! That's what an attacker with a knife needs to hit a person carrying a firearm that's still in its holster! There are techniques to overcome this situation, but not everyone is trained in this option!
Amen, striking at the right time for the right reason at the right place with the right amount of power. Knowing the laws and being willing to practice regularly.
I'm a serving UK LEO and to be quite frank, I much prefer trusting a Baton over using a Taser, as these can fail, a surprising percentage of the time. A heavy strike with a Baton, will not.
I'm a retired LEO but still work time as a special. I've carried a baton for many years. I think it is the most dependable less lethal equipment although I carry a taser and OC in conjunction with my firearm. I don't know if you mentioned it, but the baton can also be used in the collapsed position when having it in hand in what I call the interview position. I have used it to push off a subject and then a rapid upward deployment. One of the most unusual uses I had is when the subject came at me with a fork of all things. Since I already had it out. I deployed and smacked the fork out of his hand. Baton, 1 hand 0. Great video, just subbed.
Although always difficult to "think" during situations (fine skills vs gross skills) a good rule of thumb with batons is to go for bony areas of the body.
I carried one years ago and stopped because I once needed it in a road rage situation. I wasn’t the one raging. Difficult if not impossible to deploy in very cramped places. I recently started carrying one again because I found one with a very aggressive glass breaker tip and the baton is spring loaded. Pops out at the push of a button and the deployment is loud and intimidating
Once again, foo-barred by the laws in Canada, expandable batons are illegal to to carry. I'll just have to stick to my knive(s) and stout walking stick. Good video.
There are 2 types of weapons: "lethal" and "less lethal" - not "less than lethal" or "non lethal" All weapons are lethal if used in a manner that kills. Period. Even law enforcement doesnt use the temprm "less than lethal" - this is an important mental state to understand when using weapon. Never rely on a weapon not being able to kill. Pratice using techniques properly so YOU are able to control your situation
Here you cant carry none of that. If you defend your self you better use none lethal weapons..bo staff..a chain with a lock.. it pass by tools that you ad to use.. when striking look your enemie in the eyes so he dont see where you are gonna hit him.
Those are illegal to carry in my state. Better to go with something that doesn't attract attention and imply provocative, aggressive, signals, like a cane, a golf club, trekking pole, etc. Thank you for your informative videos!
Great video, thanks! I've got this same baton and love it. And as you imply, the thing about any self-defense weapon is that you have to train with it. One question: When you carry yours sheathed, is it point down or point up? I typically carry mine point down, but in training I notice that doing so it will sometimes extend on the way out of the sheath (i.e. before I might want it to). (Reading what I just wrote kinda made me spit my coffee. 😆) Cheers!
Unfortunately they’re illegal to carry them here. But with groups of up to five Arabs roaming around the streets here and peeking into people’s homes for no good reason I’ve stopped giving a shit.
I don't think most people realize that a baton is considered a deadly weapon in many, if not most jurisdictions, and outright prohibited in many more. This is why Law Enforcement must be properly trained and certified in its use. Where did you get your certification/training credentials?
Since these are made available to the public, my qualification comes from how I would approach carrying as a civilian. We have a right to self defense. Bad guys don’t care about the law. All we can do is have the best case possible. These videos are about due diligence. Yes, a headshot is deadly as disclosed. It’s also deadly to not examine ways to defend yourself
If an untrained and non-certified person ( you ) weilds a baton, it can can be legally considered deadly force because you presumably would strike the red areas. @@411Outdoors
I am one handed. I can use my dominant right hand. I only go out for Dr and hospital appointments but want something to defend myself since I have to use public transport. Being 63 year old female using a walker makes me an easier target. It is legal here to carry A baton. Would this be a good option? How heavy is it? Gun is not an option for me.
Great video, dude. Very helpful. I'd just mention to anyone shopping for the best deal, make sure it's steel and not plastic like some are that look basically the same.
What are your thoughts on a Byrna EP with kinetic rounds? Cause pepperballs are not allowed here in California. But the Byrna EP i can carry. I already checked with an attorney so what are your thoughts on this??
A steel baton saved my life years ago when I was taxi driving. Dude pulled a knife out on me. Knocked the knife out of his hand. Broke his right forearm and egg knots all over his head. I quit taxi driving two months afterwards. My wife made me.
Great story! I drive cab and I'm looking at options now
@@masterofmanythings1 Keep it in your door console if it has one. If the passenger is creepy never take your eyes off of them.
Good woman.
I'm a retired LEO with 34 years of service. The last agency I worked for issued all officers a collapsible baton, when we transitioned from the solid "nightstick." It was, like all of the equipment on our belts, a tool to be used in a use of force escalation. To me, it was the most versatile tool I had. Oftentimes, I'd use it to poke around in areas where I didn't want to put my bare hands or, maybe a makeshift pry bar. I've seen them used to break windows in an emergency. I used this tool numerous times for its intended purpose of defensive strikes to muscle groups (legs and arms), and achieved the immediate pain compliance desired.
Now that I'm retired, I still carry one on my person while providing lawn care services. It's way more practical than carrying my handgun while I'm working, sweating, and slinging grass/debris all over myself. Thanks for this review, well done!
Retired state L.E. here, did 30 years. Really good video. I'll add one thing, Training! Know strike points, pressure points, joints and large muscle points. Striking with authority as well as follow through techniques. Definitely not as simple as one would think but this is an extremely effective weapon in the hands of someone who knows how to use it.
Thank you for your service sir. I have trained Law Enforcement Officers and civilians in the use of a knife and baton. The Filipino Art of Escrima has a lot of techniques that can be applied to knife, stick, Machete, empty hand, etc. In the training we did stress drills including 21 foot rule scenarios. In every class a student would fall while moving backwards or fumble with their training weapon, etc. etc.. Under stress simple things aren't so simple. I totally agree that good training is important. I was blessed to not only work as an armed security officer, reserve Sheriff's Deputy, but also work unarmed as a Mental Health Associate (MHA) in mental hospital hospitals/day clinics in Texas and Arkansas. MHA work is humbling and teaches you to use verbal judo and such. Weapon training is good to know, but it's best to keep techniques very simple and able to be executed with either hand. Good video on baton my friend from Virginia...:)
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks
Agreed! Hit fast and hit hard. Keep moving. Don't stop.
Hard2Hurt made an interesting video on Baton's, and police use of it.
I actually carry one every time I walk my dog because most ppl have no control over their dog or dogs!
I carry mine for the same reason
Wise choice
@@danielhuff1397they really have no control over their dogs
so many just walk them whike looking at their phone
Pepper spray, my choice
@@eilat1667I use both
For us gun guys, this was an eye opener. When you train with a gun you soon learn the 21 foot rule. This is the distance a person can be on you before you can draw and fire. With the baton it gives you more time to defend. Also, you don't have to worry about killing someone in the background.
I always carry an expandable spring set up. Gives a good whip effect. I also wrap the handle in white paper so I can carry it in my hand in dicey areas. Makes it look like I'm just carrying a rolled up sheet of paper. Enjoy your videos.
Thank you!
Are people known for carrying rolled up papers lately?
@@squidlipssupreme168 I'm talking about A4 size or documents loosely rolled, not tightly rolled newspaper.
The Tueller Drill, was once shown by Doug Marcaida, against a gun defense trainer. I have since determined that, I will surround myself with claymores. And hold the clicker. During my 60 years of training, I have always taken extra interest, in the stick fighting methods. Neck and head, are points of desperation. Learn the non-lethal points first, to stop or disable the attacker.
I am also a fan of claymores. And a couple of grenades for good measure.
I’ve been carrying an expandable baton since 2001.
It’s a good choice because it can be used without a lot of training. You still must practice with it, but its use is more instinctive than other weapons.
My youngest boy was in the Air Force Security Service and they teach its use as a body manipulator as well as a striking weapon.
I usually carry a 16” baton, and keep a big fat 12” collapsible baton in the car.
I do much the same. Collapsed, the 16" will slip into a coat or pants pocket and be less noticeable than the belt holster for the large ones. Since I can also have my hands in that pocket, I can also draw it more quickly. For my car I have two justifiable tools, a tire iron and a small hammer for breaking a window to escape.
@@Inkling777 I have a big screwdriver at the door pocket
I carry a firearm and a baton and well as am a knife instructor. This is a good video for anyone to watch . Recommend !!!
Thanks my friend!
Great video my friend. Being 70 and not able to go toe to toe with a young man makes a Baton and bear spray a couple of good options. Really like the information that you give to all of us and thank you so much for your time in doing so.
its not about going toe to toe even
Im 24 but I dont want to have to break this thing out, yet I will if someone puts me ina situation where I think I’ll end up in danger since fighting unarmed is not much safer.
I dont see it as a matter of fighting on equal ground, so much as hopefully stopping the fight altogether
intimidation is good enough in bad situations, the baton is an escalation sure but also a deterrrent
@101evo I completely agree. I'm about four months away from 80, 5'5" and about 155lbs. If I am attacked, I have no choice but to defend myself with whatever I can because I can't even outrun a crippled turtle.
A cane and a stun gun (always make sure it's fully charged) or also good options in my opinion. A cane is the only weapon which one can legally carry anywhere. It can be used to strike, maintain distance, re-direct movement, jerk a person's foot from under them, knock objects from a person's hand. A solid blow to any hard surface where the bone is near the surface (wrist, knee, collar bone, shin, etc. is rather discouraging to almost any attacker. It can also be swung in a circular movement to discourage multiple attackers. Thrusting it FORCEABLY into a person's solar plexus is also rather 'distracting'. I prefer a solid cane of hardwood, polymer, etc. (hollow aluminum canes are pretty much useless for the great majority of people.) I prefer a cane with a u-shaped handle with a pointed tip. If you hook it into a soft part of the body and that point starts digging in, it's not a pleasant experience.
Of course this fact is ALWAYS true. "The rider prepares the horse for the battle, but the victory is in the hands of the Lord."
I have been carrying an expandable baton for 10 years or so. Thankfully, I have not had to use it in a defensive situation, but it has been used to de-escalate a bad situation without being used. Very formidable weapon.
I live in south africa. 29 000 muders per year. Here you have to carry a bag full of weapons just to go buy bread from the shops. Excellent video my friend.
Thank you!
Thats every major city in the USA lol
29000!
Maybe SA needed another visit by Obama and Michelle. Who eles knows law & order.
You obviously haven't been outside of the US.
The only thing I will add is you have t know your state laws with these items. In TN, the baton is not covered under your CCP. You have to take a class and get a specific license to carry a baton. It's a 5 yr certification here in TN.
That's why I like the cane (and your previous video on canes). The cane is already in your hand. I've carried an expandable baton and like them, too. I've done that experiment with a cane, and at 10' I can be set for a charging knife attack. The key is you have to know it's coming, but if you can get that cane on your shoulder, the leverage and speed of that first strike is powerful.
If they have a knife, I'd focus all my attacks on disabling the hand that holds the knife. Keep the baton moving, it can strike multiple directions quickly. It's also possible to train your opponent. Throw 2 or 3 hard from your upper right to lower left, this can be done out of range. Make them think that's what you're going to do. Then on the next swing, drop your wrist to get under their guard, and do a hard thrust to their sternum. I do this sparring with a cane, longsword, saber & dussack. It is amazing how often it works. The longer the baton, the safer you'll be until you decide to attack.
Just came across your videos about 2 hours ago. The first one I saw was you addressing "comments" to a prior video for elderly. I admire you for making one addressing that!!!! I am... 1) A female ...2) my husband passed away January 12,2022...3) I just turned 60 in February ( I'm still 23 in my head, lol), and most importantly, I have been assaulted ! Luckily, I used my car keys between my fingers and jabbed into his legs! I never seen it comin. He came from behind as I was getting ready to put my groceries in my car. This was 4 years ago. I carry a fire arm and wasp spray (will blind a person)! I've trained with my firearm for 15 yrs. I can guarantee that even the best trained female still cannot compete with a man (maybe a small percentage/ respectfully.) I train now in evade, learning if I can't get away and I know the person is trying to take me down to allow that to happen but learning how to fall and delivering pain, long enough to get away! It's retraining our brain. I'm 5'8 125 lbs...so I know my legs is my biggest strength (as of now) I have never ran from a fight but realizing as a female absolutely run away, " No Shame to the game! " Live for another day. Sorry for the novel.... Just wanted a small part of my life and especially now living alone, female and turning 60.... I just purchased the 21 inch Baton. If you have any other suggestions for me I would be SO grateful! Now, continuing watching your videos. Jada Shadoe...
Thank you for sharing! Glad to have you on the channel🙂
I carry a 16 inch regularly at work. I've added a pocket clip and it rides nicely in my pocket. I will say, stay away from the light weight models. Their lock up isn't as tight as the steel
I have had the same one for more than 25 years, don't leave home without it.
One of the self defence exercises I have done for years which very few mention or seem to do is practice covering a short distance REALLY quickly.
The ability to cover 10 feet from standing in less than a second has real benefits in many real world scenarios.
I carry mine also for the 2 legged dogs. 😊
Good video. I’m an instructor for PPCT (Pressure Points & Control Tactics) Also batons are used in the training. All LEO’s and Protective Service Members, are trained personnel and know 11-12 ft. Is a kill zone if the subject has an edged weapon. Remember they attack, and most people take 2-3 seconds to react. So 1-2 strides the bad guy is on you. Bottom line Training is paramount. In regard to batons the one I carry is a break away holster. So that I don’t have to cross draw or pull up, instead it breaks to the side and extends immediately. Thus far it’s been awesome and so much faster to deploy. Good tips in your presentation. As you had said practice and know your state laws, along with knowing where to strike and why. Appreciate ya. 👍
They can be effective weapons. Obviously like most all blunt melee weapons it can be grabbed, so one has to watch for that & they tend to be illegal in some places but other than that....
I have two batons, a 21 inch and a 26 inch. They both have that checkered, rubber, diamond pattern on the handle. If I'm going into a big city area I will carry one of these. They have that belt carry holder but I have this black zippered pocket case that has a belt loop. It does take a little longer to get out but that case carries it secure and unseen under a shirt/jacket. I can walk around with the zipper open, with it ready to go and it's still secure.
These are a great defense tool, very versatile. They can be lethal but I really like the fact that they can be used so very effectively as a non-lethal form of self defense. That feature can keep you out of a lot of trouble.
I tend to fake moves and direct an attack toward the legs. The lower legs even striking the shins/knees can cause pain and briefly incapacitate an attacker. Giving you time to get away. And as you mentioned these batons can give you that most needed bit of distance between you and an attacker.
That's a very important thing to remember. When I had a guy come at me in the Food Store parking and it was dark out. It wasn't a Self Defense situation. This guy was asking for money and he was a little aggressive. I was ready with my Cold Steel Voyager Tanto XL in my pocket but it wasn't required. What I did do was keep the shopping cart between myself and this Panhandler until my refusal for money led to him turning around and walking away. Mind you I kept an eye on his path until I was safe in my Truck. Out in the street if you don't have a shopping cart you can use other things to give you, not necessarily distance but at least separation. Like a garbage can, light pole, hydrant, sign post. Anything that can impede an effective attack.
I really like these batons though, it's a comforting feeling when I carry one of these. It's like having someone else with you.
Positioning something between you is very important advice. Thanks for reminding us.🙂
Really appreciate the instruction on using the baton in different scenarios
I think you are absolutely right, I would also add that a gravity expanding baton was issued to SOE operatives operating in enemy territory in WW2
Very well done! I learned quite a lot. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, believe or not, we could not carry any kind of striking weapon "in public view," that was in the U.S. Border Patrol! Later a collapsible side handle baton and then an ASP collapsible baton was issued.
Great option. I've carried one since the 90's. 🙏🏻✌🏻
Great video! What size would you recommend? They have 3 choices. Kind regards,
be commited and connect, that is what i learned from this clip
Asp leverage cap for the friction lock is a must have upgrade.it truly changes the impact area for the better from the change from the angle in which the baton strikes. I got all mine with the leverage cap.
One good place to carry, IMO, is in a cargo pocket with your wallet, or maybe a dummy wallet, on your dominant side. Particularly a 16 inch baton. Throw the wallet as part of the baton deployment.
A buddy from California told me that they recently made these and Billy Clubs legal to carry FYI love your vids btw keep up the great content brother 🤝🏻
Thanks! Will do!🙂👍
Yep, a court recently struck the ban down as unconstitutional.
Tactical whip would be nice to compare with the baton
Agreed!
FYI. While the seller may be a U.S. company, the product’s box says it is made in Taiwan. Just wanted to clarify this. Great video!
Thanks for the info!
As a blind person, I always carry one of these, on planes, everywhere, even can have one in prison. It is called a foldable cane, which is basically a series of interlocking metal pipes on a thick piece of alastic. It can break glass and dent cars if swung hard enough and swung at a head, it could kill if necessary. I carry a gun and knife too, but would use such a weapon first and draw my gun or knife with my free hand. Best not to pick on the blind.
As a blind person is it really a great idea to have a gun?
I carry one larger one without sheath. It colder times I slip into a side pocket that is featured along the side of the right leg on Carhartt pants that makes it very easily accessible and hides it very well. I also sometimes carry in my hoodie pouch, or in warm weather in an unzipped fanny pack.
As a self-defense instructor for the last decade, this is an excellent overview of expandable batons as a defensive tool. You do a great job covering the most important point... you have to actually train with it. In the hands of a martial artist, it's a phenomenal defensive tool, especially against knives or fists... in the hands of someone who just bought it but never practiced with it.. the attacker is VERY likely to just catch and grab the baton... if the defender even gets it out. I tend to recommend bear spray for anyone who isn't likely to devote serious time to learning a melee weapon.
Thank you!
As a retired LEO of Over 20 years on the job, your mention of bear spray brought back a memory from my time as a rookie. I was with my FTO still and we responded to an assault. Upon arriving and talking with the victim, we learned that he had attempted to use pepper spray against his assailant, however he did complain that when he attempted to spray the pepper spray at the victim that the pepper spray did not deploy. Which in turn allowed the assailant to attack the victim. After finishing taking the victim's statement and description of his assailant, I asked to see his pepper spray. What I noted was that the victim had purchased bear spray instead of pepper spray and as such you MUST take the safety off prior to being able to deploy using the bear spray. One last thing, it is not recommended using bear spray on a human and in some states you can be charged if used against a human or even someone's pet. So please check your local and state laws prior to purchasing bear spray to defend yourself. I would hate for anyone to get arrested for using it against a human or even a pet!
@@talorunningwolf9709 Thanks for sharing your experience. Those are all really good points.
Very helpful. You good teacher. I gather practice makes the difference since day 1.
I carry one daily , and consider it a decent option for self defense when I may need to stay at range . I wouldn't consider it a 1 shot stopper , for that I carry a 10z sap. I have cleared many a storm drain with it as well , and even scored a few pears and apples ! Mine is the 26" Cold Steel, I like the bigger size and weight and the price is great.
this is my first video on your channel
Very coherent and to the point detailed instructions and advices given on this video
Liked and Subscribed,Thank you.
Thanks so much!
Thank you for showing this! I had been a security officer for many years and always carried one of these thank God I never had to use it because they hurt and hurt bad!
I’ll have to show this video to my dad. He wanted to get something like these to keep in his car for defence.
Excellent video! Informative, and very well put together. Kudos to you sir.
Thank you 🙂🤝
The draw - and especially the type and placement of the scabbard/holder - is a HUGE factor in speed of deployment. Velcro straps, rubber grips with deep retention pockets, and poor positioning on the belt are potential fails.
Saved my bacon many many times. while being the only white officer on foot patrol in Springfield, MA in my area of patrol / Washington D.C. at the Embassy we had a mix of styles. the little cheap $12 Ninja Sticks (cheap replica of the WW2 OSS spring baton) was easy to carry, we loved them(used mine during an assault, dropped the attacker quick with a knee shot)
The shoulder rig for the ASAP is a nice way to carry and will take sm to large batons.
TRAINING TRAINING & Training is a must with these once you have the muscle memory it becomes 2nd nature on deploying and using them. i do keep 1 strapped to my sling bag now for when ever i go out on day trips, and i still have a few of my Ninja Sticks for carrying on my person.
Some places treated as a billy club. So check your local laws on both baton and billy club.look how to use.modonock has a good video on how to use these.basicly you use the ok sign as a grip and go for big muscle groups. Try not to go for joints. It will break them.
I’m in England and here it’s tell the assailant to hold on a second while I phone the police🤣🤣
Law says no self defence or weapons.
Common sense self preservation overrides stupid laws.
Thank you for the video, good info. I have one as well, but I would like to see a model that has a loop strap on the bottom so that you can put your hand through. This way it cannot be easily taken away or hit out of your hand. I think this upgrade option would really help this awesome protect by a lot.
Nice video! I’m sure you realize this ; but your videos are interesting and entertaining because they are insightful and thought-provoking. And, you don’t take 30 minutes to say something that could have been said in 15 minutes. Thanks!
I appreciate that!
Great advice! Other advantages of a baton: (1) Four-legged threats are more likely to be intimidated by what looks like a stick rather than a gun. Also, if you have to defend yourself, a dog's owner is less likely to be upset by a necessary baton strike than by a gunshot that seems excessive. (2) Because cops are armed, they are less likely to enforce ambiguous weapon laws on someone with a baton rather than a gun. A baton is seen as less dangerous than what they carry.
Truth!
bear spray causes even less harm. No harm actually and is more effective. It would be pretty difficult to effectively strike a front-charging dog without causing him injury
I love the idea,and have owned a couple. If youve ever been hit in an actual confrontation with one you know they are crap. Unless you can put that ball in a good spot with a power swing ,they are crap. Sorry guys ,walt disney deceived us about our women and hollywood turned violence into candy.
Cheers
The 21 foot rule / test is one of the big reasons I carry a revolver... A semi auto can only be used in a gun fight or at distance a revolver can be used in a gun fight or a scuffle that goes to the ground no slide to go out of battery to my mind at best a law abiding person can react to a bad guy so to me it's important that tools used for self defense need to be flexible so for the reasons you touched on here and others I keep a 21" baton and a Ruger 357 on me 24/7
I’m sorry man but you’re completely wrong on the revolver reliability!!! Not just my opinion but a well established fact nowadays, proven over and over again in SEVERAL situations and scenarios. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to make sure you have EVERY advantage you can 👍
Why is that a semi auto can only be used at a distance? I'm a bit lost here.
Great video. I have different sizes (12, 16, 21) for different times of the year and what I am wearing. You can also use the baton for disturbing their motility (strikes to the knee cap, shin, had and forearm are extremely painful). You can also sweep with it by hitting the Achilles tendon.
Retired and appreciative of valuable insight. FMA Escrima Kali training definitely a valuable tool as well. Kubatons are great too
In Oregon it is illegal to conceal carry weapons like the baton. You have to open carry it.
It is a good weapon and I worked as a security guard and am certified by ASP in baton and handcuffing. I have the 26" ASP baton.
The best way to avoid legal trouble is to be certified in the use of batan by ASP or some other respected program and only use it non lethally. This will also limit your ability to protect yourself. If you must use it lethally respect the baton like a firearm and only pull it out if you must save your life. Such as hitting someone in the head or face. If you do this and the court deems the event a non life threatening situation you will go to jail. Remember your state laws.
But in a serious fight with no rules and no concern about laws the baton is a deadly weapon. Learn a Filipino Martial Art to use it better than the cops.
I own one but illegally!!! as they are illegal in the UK to own and carry 🙄
I'm still using my trusty old reliable sight unseen slapjack
There is some true science with this weapon most people don't know.
The greatest power and speed with this weapon is the very tip. Striking with it 4 inches down from the top still works but you are giving up 4 inches of distance and energy. A quick tap on the cheek, nose, teeth, Adam's Apple, fingers, temple, center forehead, knuckles will cause explosive damage. Destroying the fingers of the hand carrying the knife will end the threat. Slashing the forehead over the eyes will cause enough blood loss to cause them to be not be able to see you.
Don't give up the tip. It is where the true action and power are. Try it on a melon and see. Try it on cardboard. It tears like a dull knife.
I have been really wanting to get a baton BUT, I've seen so many bad reviews of people saying they are hard to close or stick when opening. 🙏
I carry one while walking the dog, good for animals, four legged or two legged. This is my first choice for defense, second would be my knife, last would be my gun.
Bonowi CamLock expandable baton does not require an impact on a hard surface to collapse the baton. In fact, that wouldn’t even work with this model. There is a button to depress in the pommel (the base of the handle) that unlocks the shaft and allows it to quietly collapse at the user’s desired speed. You can even collapse it one-handed while gently pressing the tip into your other palm, hip, leg or abdomen (or literally any surface) without any negative repercussions, because once the extended shaft is unlocked, there is no resistance during its collapse.
The extended shaft will also freely rotate if your attacker grabs the baton while it’s in use, as your grip remains firmly fixed in place on the stationary handle. This prevents your attacker from twisting the baton loose from your grip once/if they grab it.
It can also be opened and locked into the fully expanded position silently and stealthily - or it can be expanded rapidly using the swing-open method as shown in this video.
Finally, and arguably, most importantly, it will NOT easily bend when striking it against a solid object, like those $20 junk batons will. Hence, why they cost $150+, typically.
It’s a superior design.
Highly recommended.
This is a well presented video. I carried a 16 and later a 21 inch on the job for 25 years. Previous agency where I worked issued straight sticks and later expandable PR24s while I worked there and ASPs after I left. Never had to use the expandable baton, but it’s always good to have less lethal options. Well executed and applied restraints may also work effectively. Only things I would caution are to check applicable state laws where you live, where you travel, and spend some time each week training. OC spray may be more legal in some states than others.
just what i was looking for. just wasn't sure where to buy it. mainly want it for the stray dogs around my house that charge us sometime.
6 meters! That's what an attacker with a knife needs to hit a person carrying a firearm that's still in its holster! There are techniques to overcome this situation, but not everyone is trained in this option!
Remember to put light oil on that thing.
I carry mine every time I leave the house
Amen, striking at the right time for the right reason at the right place with the right amount of power. Knowing the laws and being willing to practice regularly.
I'm a serving UK LEO and to be quite frank, I much prefer trusting a Baton over using a Taser, as these can fail, a surprising percentage of the time. A heavy strike with a Baton, will not.
This is mainly an option but a solid baton is hard to beat for sure
I'm a retired LEO but still work time as a special. I've carried a baton for many years. I think it is the most dependable less lethal equipment although I carry a taser and OC in conjunction with my firearm. I don't know if you mentioned it, but the baton can also be used in the collapsed position when having it in hand in what I call the interview position. I have used it to push off a subject and then a rapid upward deployment. One of the most unusual uses I had is when the subject came at me with a fork of all things. Since I already had it out. I deployed and smacked the fork out of his hand. Baton, 1 hand 0. Great video, just subbed.
Thank you! Much appreciated
He showed that very thing .
They are good. I agree with everything you said. I've practiced sword fighting off and on for 30 years. So these are easy for me.
Although always difficult to "think" during situations (fine skills vs gross skills) a good rule of thumb with batons is to go for bony areas of the body.
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Expandable batons are illegal in California. FYI.
Yep 👍
I carried one years ago and stopped because I once needed it in a road rage situation. I wasn’t the one raging. Difficult if not impossible to deploy in very cramped places. I recently started carrying one again because I found one with a very aggressive glass breaker tip and the baton is spring loaded. Pops out at the push of a button and the deployment is loud and intimidating
For me I pocket carry and will get a cane I’m 73 keep it simple
Once again, foo-barred by the laws in Canada, expandable batons are illegal to to carry. I'll just have to stick to my knive(s) and stout walking stick. Good video.
Thank you! A good walking stick is great 🙂👍
As someone who understands Muay Thai a leg kick hurts like a mother. A baton to the leg would be devastating. You ain’t checking a baton to the leg.
Great tool,but illegal here in Texas. I will just have to rely on my handgun and knives which are legal to carry 😂.
Good video.
Red,yellow, green zone awareness. The Stinger I find to be another effective tool.
There are 2 types of weapons: "lethal" and "less lethal" - not "less than lethal" or "non lethal"
All weapons are lethal if used in a manner that kills. Period. Even law enforcement doesnt use the temprm "less than lethal" - this is an important mental state to understand when using weapon. Never rely on a weapon not being able to kill. Pratice using techniques properly so YOU are able to control your situation
This one could be both
@@411Outdoors non lethal doesn't exist is my point.
I highly recommend Hard2Hurt's video on the baton.
Great video again, thanks man
I'll check it out! Love that channel
A good ready position is baton resting on your shoulder. From there you can strike different positions without telegraphing your area of strike.
Here you cant carry none of that. If you defend your self you better use none lethal weapons..bo staff..a chain with a lock.. it pass by tools that you ad to use.. when striking look your enemie in the eyes so he dont see where you are gonna hit him.
It's a shame they are pretty much banned where I live
Oh no! I don’t know why anybody would be in these things and then legalize some of the things that they do
Pls inform where to buy, price and is it made in US or China.
I did 👍 police Magnum made in usa. Link in description
I didn't know they were strong enough. I got the impression they would fold and bend.
Not so much on a human
Those are illegal to carry in my state. Better to go with something that doesn't attract attention and imply provocative, aggressive, signals, like a cane, a golf club, trekking pole, etc. Thank you for your informative videos!
Thanks for watching! 🙂
What do you think of carrying a baton for self defense in the event of a dog attack?
Great video, thanks! I've got this same baton and love it. And as you imply, the thing about any self-defense weapon is that you have to train with it. One question: When you carry yours sheathed, is it point down or point up? I typically carry mine point down, but in training I notice that doing so it will sometimes extend on the way out of the sheath (i.e. before I might want it to). (Reading what I just wrote kinda made me spit my coffee. 😆) Cheers!
Cheers my friend!
2021 was the year of decriminalization of asp baton in CA. 4:57
Unfortunately they’re illegal to carry them here. But with groups of up to five Arabs roaming around the streets here and peeking into people’s homes for no good reason I’ve stopped giving a shit.
And psychologically it’s easier to commit to a none lethal strike
Great video!
I don't think most people realize that a baton is considered a deadly weapon in many, if not most jurisdictions, and outright prohibited in many more. This is why Law Enforcement must be properly trained and certified in its use. Where did you get your certification/training credentials?
Since these are made available to the public, my qualification comes from how I would approach carrying as a civilian. We have a right to self defense. Bad guys don’t care about the law. All we can do is have the best case possible. These videos are about due diligence. Yes, a headshot is deadly as disclosed. It’s also deadly to not examine ways to defend yourself
If an untrained and non-certified person ( you ) weilds a baton, it can can be legally considered deadly force because you presumably would strike the red areas. @@411Outdoors
I am one handed. I can use my dominant right hand. I only go out for Dr and hospital appointments but want something to defend myself since I have to use public transport. Being 63 year old female using a walker makes me an easier target. It is legal here to carry A baton. Would this be a good option? How heavy is it? Gun is not an option for me.
It’s got a good weight but definitely easy to wield with one hand
Thank you!
Great video, dude. Very helpful. I'd just mention to anyone shopping for the best deal, make sure it's steel and not plastic like some are that look basically the same.
Thanks for the info!
I'm bringing my Shillelagh everywhere I go because of my bad back. Ow. It hurts so bad. Need me stick.
What are your thoughts on a Byrna EP with kinetic rounds? Cause pepperballs are not allowed here in California. But the Byrna EP i can carry. I already checked with an attorney so what are your thoughts on this??
I am very interested in testing but never have worked with it before
Very interested in what you think of it??. so if and when you do? please post
Glock 1:0 Expandable Baton 🙃
It does make me feel like a Jedi. I saw a double sided baton though that would make me feel like a Sith. 😂