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The Kit of Britishmuzzleloaders: PART EIGHT - Napoleonic, Victorian, and Jungle Green Clothing
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"The better you dress a soldier, the more highly will he be thought of by the women and, consequently, by himself.
" - Lord Wolseley
He would know!
That's a fact!
"I don't care how good they are!"
That line brings back a lot of memories from my Army days of having improvements to gear shot down by command lol
Haha!
"Highly Descriptive Accounts"....................I'll bet.................OUTSTANDING
Thanks Mark!
Sgt: McKenzie, why are you dressed like that?
McKenzie: Some American with crazy white hair and something called a DeLorean told me these clothes were better than that hot itchy wool uniform.....I'll start peeling the potatoes.
Will 800 be enough or will you need help?
Well spotted!
"Quartered Safe Out Here" is an outstanding book. I look forward with anticipation for your content based on it.
Yes it is!
"Not right now future boy!" Wonderful video as always!
Oh darn I only just got that reference :-)
Haha! Thanks!
I am so happy you mentioned us~ 1941 KD was an absolute pain when Hong Kong fell during that chilly Christmas. Even with the pullover it was not adequate-
Cheers!
Aussie style hats are great!
Functional, but not necessarily Aussie in this context. 🙂
Your obfuscation in the intro of what is essentially your running gag of "McKenzie, cookhouse, potatoes" was hysterical. Great presentation as always. You are so well prepared. Interesting history about the militia too.
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
I'm looking forward to seeing your content on the Burma campaign. I read 'Quartered Safe Out Here' for the first time last year (such a brilliant well written book) and followed it up by reading Field Marshall Slim's memoirs. I have such admiration for the troops who fought out there.
Its a great book!
Fancy seeing my ball bag on your TH-cam channel...... By ball bag, I mean the the expense pouch with internal cap pouch Graham the Leather Guy made me at 11:20.
Got it.... mid 19th century humour. 🙂
The Potato Famine could well have started as a result of how many potato's needed to be shipped over for McKenzie to peel...
Hahaha!
9 hole reviews brought me here, quality content is why I stay. Well done.
Glad to hear! Thank you.
It's so hard finding an Akubra hat for a non outrageous price, then having to deal with sizing in CM somehow being relative and variable.
I spent a decent sum on a sz.56 just for it to fit like it were built for a child.
I don't know how clothing and hat manufacturers screw up objective lengths of measure so badly.
They are quite expensive, yes. Good quality though.
Small Arms Training Volume 1, Pamphlet No.14 (India) 1944 has a section detailing practices for snap shooting for jungle conditions. It entails creating a mock-up jungle using bits of dangling hessian strips to obscure a fast-moving target. A video idea that would go well with your set of Jungle Green battle dress.
That sounds very interesting. Anyway that it could be made available?
I would be happy to digitise my copy and send the digital copy over to you.
@@WWIIUK That would be wonderful. I'd really like to see the differences and your suggestion of that practice would indeed be a good subject for a video! Cheers.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Just sent it over to your Gmail account. let me know if you have any issues opening the PDF.
@@WWIIUK Thank you!
You know, despite the arguing multiple of one, I watch the entire intros out of sheer patriotism. But I grit my teeth and don't say thank you...
And kudos for doing George Macdonald Fraser. Great writer.
Not sure of what you are getting at.... sorry. GMF is a great author, for sure.
Thanks for all your work on this video.
Most welcome.
Thank you for incorporating Canadian history into your survey. Despite living in the US, Canadian history was one of my favorite courses in college.
Cheers!
This 'thumbs up' deserves several more, Pte. Mckenzie has outdone himself. Good job, that man.
Thank you!
Will part three of this series be about the aprons worn by Mackenzie on KP? As always, a very informative video.
Part Three?..... You mean Part Nine... 🙂
always a lot of info thrown at us but in a fun and interesting way. thanks Rob
Glad you enjoyed it. You could always break it into two sittings.... 🙂
@@britishmuzzleloaders i did ! and always do for most videos these days. Sometimes I'll take 3 sittings :)
looking forward to your east asian theatre project ! Frasers account sounds interesting...or terrifying if you get to into it lol
Great video! Loved hearing about the Fenians vs. Canadian Militia, and am pleased to hear of your coming Burma series.
I'll get there eventually....
Well done BM. Highly informative and entertaining.
Cheers!
I've watched your videos before but griffin sent me to say hi
Thank you Charlie!
As always, well done and thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
I have two Akubra hats the Slouch/Bush Hat and the Territory.
Nice!
Nicely done sir, well presented.
Thank you!
Nice! Looking foreward to what you're prepping for us!
Great to hear! Cheers.
Brilliant video, once again I see that a staggering amount of effort goes into your stuff. The Burma war is a particular interest of mine so it was a treat to see some content about it here.
Thank you kindly!
The future adventures in the preparation of a stable root crop.... Central to the history continuity of the channel.
Good equipment of a high standard are a channel norm....a nice eye to details.
Thank you!
Love your vids. Can see you on the television in your own version of Dads Army. They don't like it up um😄
No they don't!
As a resident of Buffalo, the Ridgeway battlefield has an excellent museum and the QOR Museum at Casa Loma in Toronto has numerous keepsakes from the battle; worth the trip
Indeed! Thanks for sharing!
Great potential in troops like these.
the knapsacks may be uncomfortable but i like the look of them
They are smart... yes..
Educational and Entertaining.
BRAVO!
Thank you!
@@britishmuzzleloaders You're welcome Sir. :)
Thank you for this one, especially for putting me onto "Quartered Safe Out Here". It is a brilliant read!
Glad you enjoyed it! Great book!
It's great to see some Victorian era Canadian militia kit on the channel, do you ever expect to do any Northwest Rebellion related projects? I've started to gather kit to represent an Artillerymen during the conflict and plan to get 10th Battalion Royal Grenadier kit aswell. Great video as always, keep up the great work!
Maybe I'll get around to some more CanCon.... Could prove to be a bit touchy, but all in the context of history.
@@britishmuzzleloaders I'm not entirely sure how it would be anymore touchy then other subjects you've touched on, I do know that many modern day viewpoints on the NW rebellion (like what's taught in school is often complete nonsense) show the Government in negative ways but if they really look into the facts and details people would see that the government didn't really do anything wrong. I do realise that many people would automatically just assume the worst without checking any facts though which sadly is bound to "offend" somebody...
@@britishproud8819 It's something I'd like to cover, for sure.
Excellent!
Thanks!
I can only imagine how much work, time, energy and money it takes to make these videos! Thank you, Sir.
You are most welcome! Cheers.
I’ve been binge watching your content and thoroughly enjoying all of it. The history, the delivery, the Monty Python, the musketry and the sheer majesty of your shooting range. But it wasn’t until this video that a jangling penny dropped. Who did McKenzie remind me of? Why of course, Pvt McAuslan! Well done Sir! Sliante!
Have you watched Part Two of the Kit Series yet?
@@britishmuzzleloaders Aha! That’ll teach me to watch out of sequence 😬
Another interesting video. Looking forward to videos on the Commonwealth forces in the CBI Theater. My father in northern Burma (now Myanmar) as part of the US effort on the Ledo Road. He was a 1st Lt platoon commander with the 209th Engineer Combat Bn. The 209th and 236th ECBs were sent to Myitkyina to reinforce Merrill's Marauders after the airport was captured. He was badly wounded during the fighting around Myitkyina in June 1944.
Thanks for sharing!
Every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man!
Haha!
I was seriously expecting Rosses participating in Wasteland Shuffle.
Haha! Not without a handgun or an AK.....
Hi from Syracuse NY USA brother
Cheers!
That White Shell Jacket Looks pretty spiffy if I do say so myself !
Cheers!
Not sure why I find this so interesting and intriguing but I sure do. I wonder how much time they spent cleaning all the equipment and clothing back then compared to WW2, both in the "barracks" and in the field.
A white woolen jacket would be a nightmare piece of kit to keep clean.
There'd be a bit more time needed, yes....
GOOD CLEAR REPORT MAYBE REGIMENTAL PROGRAMS SHOULD BE IN A COMBINED PROGRAM
Cheers!
FutureBoy MacKenzie - has a kind of ring to it. Hehehe...
Haha!
Great video! I'm looking forward to your burma project as my grandfather served out there. Where did you get the water carrier as its the one item I'm missing for reenacting?
I found it online. Cheers!
@@britishmuzzleloaders cheers!
The 78th Fraser Highlanders. Huzzah!
Umm,... nope... they came and went. The Victorian 78th were raised in 1793 and were "MacKenzies"
I was in an antique store here in Airdrie, Alberta and thought of you while looking at some really old and beautifully framed pics of what looked like British soldiers or officers. Not sure if there is anything you would be interested in other than that. Photos were beautifully done for their time tho. Oh right they had a very expensive Martini Henry on the wall.
Bet that snuck up on you!
Does this mean you are going to visit Ian for Bren drills in the near future? Say YES
He met a Bloke two years ago to discuss uniform changes and how to carry the ammunition into battle.
BOTR needs to get back to Canada. Usually I'm totally against crossovers, but I liked that one.
That would be grand!
Just marvelling at the depth of attention to detail... Wonderful production! As a Scot I am very impressed. 🙂
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it!
I hope you discuss the New Guinea campaign at some point in your future Far East related videos as I find that Australia is always under represented in historical videos about the war.
Perhaps... let's get a few stabs at Burma done first.... 🙂
the 1885 NW Rebellion was in Saskatchewan & Alberta not Manitoba
Indeed it was... an innocent brain fart corrected in the description.
Came for the history, stayed for the epic mustache.
Thank you!
Absolutely brilliant rob as usual I very much look forward to seeing the videos regarding the war in the far East and venture with you along the road to Mandalay.
Cheers! Thank you. I look forward to getting into that series too.
Have you ever detailed the mess kit itself? Its been mentioned in several videos of the series, but I can’t recall or find any video from you with more detail on the kit itself beyond how it is carried.
Hi there. As the Channel is a shooting channel, these videos are done to explain the kit used in the videos to the extent of the context it is used... Mess tins, kfs, housewife, etc have zero bearing on shooting and / or the presentation so they are not covered here. As the series title states, “The Kit of BML”, not “The Kit of British and Empire Forces”.... Subtle but distinct, as I see it anyway,... Appreciate the interest for sure! Have a look at Simon’s Channel mentioned at the end. You’ll find what you are looking for there.... Cheers!
@@britishmuzzleloaders I recognize that. It's just the way its glossed over (not even something like "this is actually a mess kit from ___, but the shape and weight is close enough for my purposes") gives the impression it stayed more of less the same for the entire span of uniforms.
I don't know what happened to my response, but I'll send it again... The mess tin remained essentially the same from the late Napoleonic period through the late 1930s. As for mine, I think that if you watch the video entitled "Shooting Kit of the Modern Victorian Rifleman" you will get your answer... 🙂
Hello.
I’m putting together my War of 1812 kid, and I’m wondering where you purchased your knapsack for your Napoleonic kit. I know of where I will possibly get mine, but I just want to know of some other places.
Thanks.
Part Seven of the series (as mentioned at 13.05 in this video) will get you there. Cheers and good luck!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Second account here.
Thanks for the info!
Dear brittish muzzle loader i have some realy important questions about the lee metford
So the lee metford uses 303 mk 1 but its not avalible out here can i use the common type of modern 303 sold today.
The clearing rod is missing what shell i do???
The bayonets seem to be realy expensive are there reproductions?or do u know a web that sells orginals u would recommend.
Thx in advance
Yes you can shoot commercial 303 safely. Accuracy may be an issue, though. Clearing rods were made redundant in 1899 so not having one is not that much of an issue... No repro bayonets.
@@britishmuzzleloaders thank you very much
İts nice to hear that commercial 303works(search didnt help me with that)
So you mean its fine for the clearing rod to be missing❓🤔🤔
And what would you give for a one that has surface rust diactivated and rod missing ?
Khaki clothing is still popular in the Indian subcontinent.its beautiful history.
Long history there...
SPUDS~~~!!!!
Yes!
Loving all the videos but i have a question. i have read somewhere that hunters used to use silk and other materials to load there musket balls instead of cloth and leather as they would gain better accuracy. I cant see a video of you using different patches. so is this true?
You read it somewhere, or you saw "Last of the Mohicans"......?
@@britishmuzzleloaders no was in a book called Hunting Big game in africa and asia. this is the page i read it on. books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZyuFDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA204&lpg=PA204&dq=did+hunters+use+silk+to+fire+there+musket+balls&source=bl&ots=P95W5l8n_F&sig=ACfU3U2Fh92EQblHeVvAOo5xqPTvK4cuUg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU-9r47ZvxAhVDZhQKHTBRDfkQ6AEwE3oECA8QAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
@@nella_jt4353 In all fairness, the reference speaks only of silk in the same context as linen... not as something that was better. I have never shot with a silk patch, but judging from what a rifle does to a thin cloth patch, especially with a heavy charge, a thin silk patch would neither grip the rifling nor stand up to burning of the powder....
I sm at a loss. Please tell me where to find the links to the resources mentioned in the video as I cannot find them.
Thanks
Um,... in the "description below". 😀
@@britishmuzzleloaders my problem is that I can't find description brlow, I only see comments.
Please tell me where to find it.
Thanks
@@greatscotmagic I don't know what to say. It's part of every video on YT... are you viewing on a phone or computer?
Where are you from Rob I've never heard an accent like yours before?
Western Canada.
Very interesting material!
Were the soldiers who fought at Waterloo 1815 exactly as uniformed as you showed? Were there any deviations or differences?
Don't know if the link will work, but he's a pdf of an article that addresses the subject of British infantry uniforms worn during the Waterloo Campaign: www.centotredicesimo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Fanteria-inglese-a-Waterloo-M.I.-2.pdf
@@MrEKWesq
Thank you for the link for interesting article. I recommend the book:
British Napoleonic Uniforms The First Complete Illustrated Guide to Uniforms Facings and Lace. - by C.E. Franklin
@@roberts1938 No worries! Yeah, Franklin's work is quite good.
@@MrEKWesq
I checked and the 78th Highland Regiment did not fight at Waterloo 1815, though 2nd Battalion was in reserve near Brussels. But they before participating in the Battle of Maida in July 1806.The Poles also took part in this battle. More years ago I created historically military figures. I have just found one Scottish highlander figurine, almost ready, just need to be painted. Seeing this interesting movie, I thought to finish it. The movie is inspiring to me. But I think I will decide on the 42nd Regiment of Scottish Highlanders. The movie shows the details of the uniform and equipment very nicely, which is very helpful.
As stated below, you will find a very similar uniform used for other Highland Regiments. Obviously they were in the minority and the majority would have worn trousers...
how come you don't do the moustaches of the various ages of the empire? Glaring omission if you ask me
Haha! I only have the one, unfortunately....
First of all I want to say, I love your videos and all of the work that you put into them. With that being said, I do have one issue, lay off of Mckenzie. I think you are a little too hard on him..........Poor guy.
Haha! It's not up to me,.. its the Sergeant you need to enquire with...
What was the point of leather neck stocks? They seem like they would be extremely uncomfortable so I can only assume its some type of safety equipment?
I think it was to stop heads from bobbing up and down when flinching to show no fear. As ducking was very much frowned upon, and against line infantry under volley fire totally useless. As would a leather strip against ball or bayonet. Comfort was not a luxury enlisted men were afforded haha
@@wookie-zh7go It ultimately boils down to fashion. Linear tactics pre-date leather neck stocks and as male fashion evolved during the nineteenth century, so too did the use of neck stocks.
As mentioned by Ewan.... He's an authority.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Would it be related perhaps, to the leather neck guards worn by United States Marines in the 19th century, to protect against a saber slash? That was, incidentally, how they got the moniker of Leathernecks.
@@johndilday1846 The leather stock was not the preserve of the US Marine. They wore them, in accordance with the prevailing military fashion choices of the era. Did it protect against some sword cuts?... perhaps.... depends on the sword and it depends on the leather... If it were intended to be "armour", then it did a pretty poor job covering vulnerable areas... why not the face? Why not the lower neck? Why not the head?
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