@monkeygivingthefinger well House had almost no qualms about leveling a potato launcher at a dude’s balls and opening fire lolz, so not far off overall.
Truth is, it would ultimately be the son's choice. Even if the parents said yes, he'd have to say yes as well since he'd be the donor. If he's old enough, he could still agree to do it even if the parents said no.
If they where both adults. If either ones not then its 100% up to the parents. You cant let a kid make that kind of decision that theyll 2nd guess their entire life
@@kalebgraffis5838 If we want to get technical, it does depend. If the son choses to give the lung, then the parents can veto that choice because they're legal guardians. However if the parents decide to give the son's lung, and the son refuses, then it doesn't matter what the parents' choice is because the hospital wouldn't force the son to do that.
I can understand the parents plight. They have to sacrifice one child for the other. Of course the son only has a few years anyway, so by cold logic choosing the daughter they gain more, but it also means cutting their son's already short lifespan even shorter. It can feel like a betrayal towards him from the parents point of view. Kicking him when he's already down.
_"You're handing them an impossible choice!"_ _"LIFE has handed them a CRAPPY choice, and they're picking the crappier option."_ I *love* that dialogue.
@@nathalieebonheart4133My god. You people should turn off all electronic devices for half year or year - to get some normal, clear thoughs. Why you even went into politics with this comment? And if it's double backing down, quit it. I'm not gonna entertain it.
@nathalieebonheart4133 I'm not all that in tune with that kinda stuff but don't you have places to complain about that elsewhere where people are debating or arguing about it
"It's coercive to tell them" I want to agree with House but I can't get past the truth of that line Edit: The stupidest stance you can take isn't about whether you agree with House or Cuddy. The stupidest stance you can take is to pretend this is an easy decision
@@blacktimhoward4322 All medical advice is coercive. You want to coerce the patient towards making healthier life choices in spite of their own stubbornness or their personal convictions.
Yes, it's so horrible to actually give then the facts. Life sucks, NOT telling them their options is manipulative. Telling them the truth is being an adult.
@@overdrive7349cowardly? Maybe, but she’s not wrong either, can’t just ask somebody easily to give up their body parts and reduce half of their life span, even if it is to save another, it’s a scary dilemma.
It’s also about accountability and liability, because for anyone doing what House is proposing, however RIGHT his is, and he IS right, it would cost them their careers/livelihoods as the committee would be looking for someone to blame, in order for THEMSELVES to not have their own careers be put on the chopping block.
@@overdrive7349yeah but her job is to make sure the hospital keeps running, and agreeing to this puts the entire hospital at risk of a lawsuit and shutdown
3:28 - 5:00 - I really like this scene, normally House is the one to recommend unethical or crazy ideas that make medical sense, but are cruel in nature. He does this without hesitation and typically the patient's/parents resent him for it. However, because of Cuddy's request due to their new relationship, House doesn't do this, and instead the father comes and begs House for a solution, which he reluctantly gives. This time, because the father asked House for any options, he ultimately thanks him.
I don't think the parents should make this kind of decision without involving their teenagers in the discussion. Especially not the one who would be donating the marrow and lung, because no matter what they decide, he could ultimately refuse, and no doctor would force it upon him. If he refuses, they don't have a choice to make. If she refuses, he's the only one who has the right to convince her to take it. The parents job is to make sure they both understand the consequences of either decision, as the doctors explained it to them, and ensure neither child feels pressured into either option.
@@zerieth6620 the buty of fiction is that it allows us to explore and confront experiences that we have never seen in person but are no less plausible for being fake
The thing I kept noticing throughout this is that Cuddy keeps talking about what it would do to their son, but she never seems to mention the daughter. "Do no harm" should apply to both of them. It's a really crappy choice to be put in, but harm is going to be done either way. Either they shorten the son's lifespan, or they let his sister die. And the only reason things have gotten this bad in the first place is because she has been continuously putting herself aside for the sake of her brother
YES! She has already lived her whole looking after him. Hugo wants his sister to live, and, now that he has the chance, *wants* to save his sister. Let him do for her what she would do for him.
This is a long discussed flaw of the Hipocratic Oath- 'Do no harm' and 'ALLOW no harm' are different. For instance, if a doctor sees a patient about to be murdered and could only kill the attacker, TECHNICALLY the Oath would dictate they allow it. We'd understand why they would't ofc, but it's a technicality. In advising them to hasten the son's death they DO harm. in not doing so they ALLOW harm.
No, I don't think they do. What drives House, Why is he a Doc, What is his driving force that brings him to the hospital? He is there because he is an official drug addict. He is able to feed his addiction via the hospital. A seasoned white-collar addict never loses sight of his next fix, and thats why he is a prick his patients and their parents. They are not the priority. In his core you can see a little twinge of guilt, but it doesn't last. Real Doctors do not attend their patients impaired on drugs. People like him often commit suicide, because this is a game where there is no winner.
I like how House handles pretty much confirmed death cases in the show. He was completely jokey and sarcastic with Taub right up to when he said she’s gonna die, and then you see it wash over House as well as he finally drops the act.
But the boy has a choice since he knows he's about to die from his condition in a few years. And he said it the best by he can give her decades and he can't do stuff she can but he will be with her
Insurance companies kill people who would have lived all the time by rejecting life-saving treatment no lung donations required. We could end starvation and homelessness, yet we don't. Do No Harm was always a lie-profits pretending to be ethics
If you are a brother to a sister right now you’d feel the emotion of the final scene, I would 100000% die for my sister and I know it, it wouldn’t be a choice for me it’d be a no brainer.
Everyone is saying it’s sad, but take a piece from the doomed child in order to save the healthy one. The doomed child doesn’t have much time left anyway. I get it, the healthy one will live a normal healthy life at the expense of the unhealthy one’s very limited time span. But parents tend to be pretty irrational when it comes to the lives of every child they have. Think about it, to have a child you love more than anything in the world and risk their life in order to ensure the healthier one’s survival, regardless of the circumstances, is a pretty damn tall order to ask for a parent. Logically, it’s makes sense. Emotionally, it’s beyond devastating. 🤷🏽♂️
@@Emma88178 you better not be an american talking about a british actor and his american accent when NOT ONE american actor can do one of the many BRITISH ACCENTS( cause Britain has a ton of accents too, just so you know. The RP accent you like to put on and pretend its a "BRITISH" accent is not the only english accent, let alone british
This entire episode I was practically screaming at the tv “oh, COME ON! Let the son make his own damn choice, it’s his body, his lifespan and his bond with his sister! He’s not a damn ten-year-old, he knows what’s at stake here! If he’s gonna die young either way, he should get some say in this matter.”
So I have a question about the lung. Im not sure what Hugo (the son) has but if it affects his lungs, wouldn't he transfer whatever he has to his sister? Am I missing something?
CMD stands for Congenital Muscular Dystrophy. It’s a muscle disease where the chest muscles weaken which causes difficulty breathing and a stiffening of the ribcage. Technically it doesn’t affect the lungs so if he’s the a donor match for the sister and the CMD hasn’t made the ribcage so stiff that he’s punctured a lung or something like that, he could still donate a lung and not give his sister the condition.
Everyone is wrong. Both kids should have been involved from the start as both are obviously Gillick competent. That would have been the humane thing to do.
without having childs it would be rather difficult to understand why the parents are so reluctant on losing one, when the choice is between losing one or losing both. It’s not a toy, it’s not a prize, it’s not a watch or a phone. It’s not the same as “You either lose one of your phone or both of it, you either lose one of your watch or both of it”. There’s only “You are going to lose your child.”
House was great, except everything they depicted as chronic pain and opioid dependence was wrong. There are drugs like clonidine that can relieve withdrawal symptoms and to see House always suffering was ridiculous.
We've seen House escape the pain, and he's chosen to go back to it, because the pain is part of what makes him him. In one episode he felt being without the pain made him too nice and patient and friendly and it made him a worse doctor in his opinion, so he went back to the pain. In another episode, he refused to take a chance to get rid of the pain because he made the choice that led to his pain and so he felt he needed to live with it.
As an icu nurse i see these impossible decisions all the time but i will never sugar coat it i tell them all i know about both options HONESTLY so they have the ability to make an informed decision x
I swear everytime Cuddy opens her damn mouth, I get more and more pissed. She'd rather everyone practice "hand holdy lollipops and rainbows" medicine instead realizing how the world really works. Does she not realize that the brother wouldn't even make to 25 if his sister dies, knowing there was a chance of saving her. I'd give it 6 months tops after her death before he'd become so griefstricken that he'd unalive himself.
I’ve always liked the dynamic of House and Cuddy- how the job should be done from an objective perspective vs how it should be done from a moral perspective. House is only ever concerned with cracking the case- even willing to literally break the law (which he does way more often than the show thinks). Cuddy, as the dean of an entire hospital, has to consider legality and morality. House always had a case of tunnel vision, his obsession with solving the case.
As a younger sister, I lost two siblings to illness. It’s a no brainer for me, if they can save my older brother, u take what u need to save him from me. I would fight my parents on the matter.
House was right that they weren’t given an impossible choice but a crappy choice and they chose the crappier option. I get that the parents doesn’t want to sacrifice their son. But the difference between a few years and a few decades is huge. Their daughter will die then their son will die in like five years. If they chose to save their daughter, their daughter could even live past them. She has a longer and brighter future ahead. I believed their choice was really influenced by favouritism, since their son was constantly sick so they cared about him more in their heart which resulted in the daughter being neglected. You can tell by that the fact that their daughter had to put on a healthy and strong facade so that her parents won’t be worried about her and only focused on her brother. It’s a common story troupe where the sick one is cared for while the other sibling has to be mature for the sick sibling and is often neglected and treated unfairly.
Cuddy wasn't wrong about it being an impossible choice, but you also hit the nail on the head. Both of these kids were in a horrible situations, but the daughter at least had a chance for recovery, while the son was, unfortunately, on a time limit. The parents saying they wouldn't take the lung from their son was the worst decision they could have gone with, since they would have ended up losing both of their children. With House's idea, admittedly it is harsh, but it would be able to ensure that at least one of these kids would be able to live a longer life. I can't even imagine what parents go through when situations like these would appear, but I could never see myself choosing to allow BOTH kids to die when an option, as morbid as it is, was present to save at least one of them.
@sarahjames927 i agree. But could you choose to let your other child die when they could be saved? Yes, their son would die sooner, but he would have have died anyway. At least this way their daughter would live and, as he said, a part of him will always be with her. It's a shitty choice but it's the logical one.
@@sarahjames927That's not the question though. Would you rather have both your children die or at least have one of them live? One is going to die anyway eventually and one is about to die!
@@thedragonauthority Yeah, it sadly became a matter of pure pragmatical results, instead of losing 2 equally valuable things, the logic was to scarifice the one that was gonna, without a doubt, be lost eventually for the sake of the one that wouldnt.
The title of this video is so stupid. They weren't choosing not to save her, they had to choose between their two children. I don't have kids, but that's not a situation I would wish on anyone.
Yeah no. House is not correct here. Judging their choice because “your son is gonna die anyway there’s no reason to not shorten his time” is insane. You can’t ask parents which kid they’d rather have live and that is exactly what he did. The girl didn’t want it to happen anyway, so if they did it what makes anyone think the guilt wouldn’t cause her to kill herself when her brother died. Do no harm includes mental health and house honestly was never a good person anyway.
The whole thing is that while Cuddy is 100% right that it's not House's call to intervene in that drama (It's not any doctor's call), it's not the parents's either! It's the fucking boy's call. The parents need to sign off on that, ofc, but they need to understand that their own opinion is irrelevant compared to their son's. He makes the call and then the parents sign the forms. Mathematically, it makes sense for the boy to donate, the dilemma is "lose one son or lose both children", but I get why the parents are leaning towards the latter option: It's just heartbreaking to sacrifice your own child to save another. But there's the thing: The boy *wants* to sacrifice himself. He loves his sister, his sister got herself in that whole issue because she loved her family more than she valued her own health. The boy knows his days are already numbered, so if he wants to sacrifice himself, I commend him for being such a brave young man. (Before anyone says "It's just a show", I fucking know, that doesn't mean I won't emotionally engage with it while the clip keeps running)
Yeah it shown off screen but yeah she did get lung transplant. house apologizes for going behind Cuddy back and telling the dad the options but Cuddy admits it’s the first real conversation they had as a couple. Cuddy suggests if they are this honest their relationship might work and House grabs her butt much to her amusement as she holds his hand
Worst case of favoritism I’ve ever seen, they’d rather get a couple more years with their golden boy tied to machines against his wishes than let their daughter live a full life. And the sick part is this isn’t even unrealistic.
I don’t think it’s favoritism. In their minds, they are choosing between their daughter’s or their son’s life. It is so easy from the outside, but humans tend to see lack of action as more guilt-free than doing something. By taking away their son’s lung, they are directly hurting him. By not doing so, they are doing nothing to hurt him; they are also doing nothing to save their daughter, but that means less guilt than harming their son.
@fullysemiautomatic5618 Yes, they are. Humans have never been anything but a number all their lives. What do you think a social security number is? Baby No. XXXX born on this day Student No. XXX graduate on this day Employee No. XXX paid this much Citizen No. XXX paid this much in taxes.
I'm confused. I guess I'll have to watch this entire episode, because my understanding is that "sickle cell trait" means that you are just a carrier of one half of the gene that causes the disease. My 40 year old African-American son has the trait, and he has passed it down to both of his mixed-race daughters. None of them have any symptoms like this girl.
Yes. If you have a homozygous dominant gene of the sickle cell traits you have the disease. If you have a Heterozygous genotype, you are a carrier. You don’t have the disease, but you have a 25% chance of your offspring having the disease. I’m not sure if haus said she has the trait or the disease, if she had only the trait it would be medically inaccurate but knowing haus almost all info in the show is accurate.
His name is _Gregory_ House, but I've only seen his mother call him Gregory. Everyone else just calls him House. Even Dr. Cuddy, (who would eventually become his girlfriend) calls him that.
I think a medical professional is ethically and legally obligated to tell their patients all options. That’s what defines informed consent. For living donor candidates who are CONSIDERING it, there are living donor advocates who are supposed to support potential donors so they can make their decision without external pressure. It’s never easy, mind. And normally it wouldn’t matter because the definition of an option is that you don’t have to take it. What’s extra upsetting here is that, on some level, people understand there is no real option. It’s two dead children vs one dead child. There is no happy ending, no words for how gut wrenching and awful this is. Ultimately though, that’s for the family to decide, not the doctors. In the end, one of the biggest responsibilities of medical professionals is to disclose all information of the diagnosis, treatment options, treatment details, risks, etc. To not INFORM them that this is a viable option when it could save their patient is to take from the patient’s autonomy. TELLING them isn’t coercion, and it’s actually a major point that House actually DIDN’T initially try to coerce a patient or guardian for once. What he did AFTER with his rant could definitely be considered coercion, though hospital dramas tend to have a lot of it. But to be fair, Lisa then yelling and arguing back could also be considered coercion if this incident is reviewed despite her more sympathetic stance. It’s typically why medical professionals are supposed to take these kinds of conversations somewhere else and not do this shit in front of the patient/guardians. Like, screaming a private medical situation in a public hallway? Generally considered NOT GOOD. And then the son actually heard it and made his decision right after?
Well your pfp is ironic then, endorsing a state which is well known for g*nocide, making children orphans on the daily, countless other atrocities. The list is long.
He knows full well what he's asking them to do. But it's also something that happens every time there's a Mass Cas Event. Doctors have to choose who to save, and who to let go. The best case scenario for someone with CMD is that they live to see 30. They likely won't have children, and will be bound to a wheelchair most of their lives. Letting her go to save him ultimately means they lose both within a few years of one another. If she lives, she can have a full life where she could get married, and have her own children at some point.
The situation was either they do nothing and end up losing their daughter over the next few days and get another 5-6 years with their son and his detreating health. Or they take the transplant from their son and get maybe another couple years with their son with the high chance their daughter will make a recovery and go on to life a full life. So....would you rather choose the option where you lose both your children over the next 5 years or get a few more years with the one child that is already dying so the other can live a full life?
@@bloodwolfgaming9269 Only a full life for the daughter if she can live with the guilt of being partially responsible for her brother passing away sooner. It's a pretty significant burden for a child to carry. Big part of why it's important to involve said offspring in the decision.
Because even though they are biological parents, there is still the chance that there isn't a match and the new tissue would be rejected. It happens all the time, a child needs a tissue/organ donation and even though the parents are willing, the compatibility is not able to allow it. The chances of a match are more likely in siblings than in parents, but even that isn't a guarantee; it is lucky that the daughter was a match with her brother.
@@Nirvash89I can tell you that as a transplant recipient, this is false. As long as the blood type is a match. The rest is irrelevant. Immunosuppressant medications can take care of the rest. I'm just pointing out that this wasn't thrown out as an option by the medical team to one of them and it might have given house a better idea of a way of throwing something back in the family's face. For instance, my son donated a kidney to me, he certainly wasn't a perfect match to me yet was able to pull off the process. Process. The genetics would work the same in reverse parent to son.
Does she have sickle cell disease? I never heard that closely. Does that mean she inherited the gene from a parent? Wouldn't that disqualify the parents from donating?
Look as a transplant recipient, the only thing that needs to match is the blood type, you can give a zero out of six antigen organ and still have it work. I should know this as I've had a kidney transplant myself. I know that there's a lot of artistic license used on television programs like this, but I'm sort of a stickler for transplant portrayed accurately in TV programs. The chance of a compatible organ being from a parent is just as likely as it would be from a sibling. I don't know the episode well enough, but unless they are identical twins, clearly they're not as their opposite sex, there's really not going to be an advantage here. I know this is possible because my own father offered to donate a kidney to me at the same time that my son donated, my son turned out to be a better match. Even my ex-wife tried to donate, and she clearly has no genetic attachment to me. All I'm saying is that would have been the first thing as a physician that I would have suggested and I think it would have been something that house would have suggested as well if anything to get under the parent's skin. The sickle cell thing may be true. It's been a long time since I've seen this episode. Perhaps that's a plausible answer? I don't know? As I say, there's just a lot of artistic license done around transplant on these medical shows, also, the idea of some doctor running into an emergency room asking a car victim to be declared brain dead so they can harvest their organs and things of this sort. That stuff just doesn't happen
This is one more case of tragedy because of STUPIDITY.but since she's a kid she's excused.but if she wasn't stupid,she would have known her health Matters Too.Ignoring it just Endangered her life!.this is why Stupid IS DANGEROUS!
That girl pissed me off on how dumb she was acting. You knew your bro had a few years tops, and you want to sacrifice yourself? Yeah, let your parents leave without both kids.
I think people are missing that because this is House and a TV show, we know he'll fix the problem if he gets enough tries. Even with new information, it's not a guarantee, even with regular transplants carefully planned out. It's easy to do the math of sacrificing 5-10 years of the son's life to save a lifetime of the daughters, but what if it fails again? Then the daughter dies, and now your son is going to die much sooner. Even in cases where things are terminal, patients keep hope to survive on medical innovations, making death sentences livable, like with HIV.
I mean it’s either lose both kids or just one. I gets it’s a hard decision but at the same time it’s also pretty simple. Whole in their right mind would want to lose two kids? I mean in a perfect world both kids could survive. But unfortunately that’s not how it is. The kid is dying regardless. It’s just comes down to how long he has left. It’s a no brained decision. Hard or not there’s a right choice here.
@@holmesholmes.8784 If i did, i sure as hell would want to have a chance to at least raise one instead of losing all of them at once which would probably completely break my sanity
Don't get to play god she says, literally her & most of the team plays god anyhow when they stubbornly pick between which out of the 2 patients to be save in most episodes anyhow, no different to House other than he's rarely a hypocrite & is mostly a blunt introverted sociopath.
I genuinely read the title as "House Blows Up Parents" and I genuinely was convinced for a moment that's totally a House thing to do.
knowing House, it's definitely something he would do
same....
insert comically proportioned house drawing here
@monkeygivingthefinger well House had almost no qualms about leveling a potato launcher at a dude’s balls and opening fire lolz, so not far off overall.
I just woke up and read it as an actual house blowing up at some parents for some reason
Truth is, it would ultimately be the son's choice. Even if the parents said yes, he'd have to say yes as well since he'd be the donor. If he's old enough, he could still agree to do it even if the parents said no.
Stick to the script, dude!! You can't just haphazardly bring facts into the situation!!
If they where both adults. If either ones not then its 100% up to the parents. You cant let a kid make that kind of decision that theyll 2nd guess their entire life
That last part is not true since they would have to agree to the treatment for the daughter
@@kalebgraffis5838 If we want to get technical, it does depend. If the son choses to give the lung, then the parents can veto that choice because they're legal guardians. However if the parents decide to give the son's lung, and the son refuses, then it doesn't matter what the parents' choice is because the hospital wouldn't force the son to do that.
@@kalebgraffis5838but it’s their body. They are the one who would have to have the surgery not the parents. It should be up to them
Random fact dropping.
The patient is the voice actress who gave life to Isabella from Phineas & Ferb.
Also played Caitlyn in Camp Rock
THANK YOU GUYS, I was wondering where I recognized the face and voice from
Also the dancer in one of Missy Elliot’s videos this girls been all over lol
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@@demilais2551Also was in Step Up!
That "Please. Don't make me live without you." absolutely DESTROYS me EVERY time.
I bawl my eyes out!! Seriously heartbreaking!! 💔
Now that’s sibling love right there
Sure made MY eyes leak, I tell ya what!
“If you take this piece of me carry it with you then I really can share everything you do” 😭😭😭
Shit... that's art. The pain in the boy's eyes. The dialogue is truly heartbreaking.
"This is the great thing I can do with my life"
I can understand the parents plight. They have to sacrifice one child for the other. Of course the son only has a few years anyway, so by cold logic choosing the daughter they gain more, but it also means cutting their son's already short lifespan even shorter. It can feel like a betrayal towards him from the parents point of view. Kicking him when he's already down.
Maybe they could, like, ask the son's input on it or whatever
And by NOT doing this, they lose BOTH kids - dunno if I prefer to think of it that way instead :P
you are looking at this narrowly. If she dies, the boy would live in sadness, so by warm logic it would still be right to save the sister
cmon
@@Atylonisus True, but the parents might be afraid their son might take that as coercion.
@@jaimedritt4622it's not coercion to be given an impossible choice and taking the most logical path. It's sacrifice.
_"You're handing them an impossible choice!"_
_"LIFE has handed them a CRAPPY choice, and they're picking the crappier option."_
I *love* that dialogue.
@@nathalieebonheart4133My god. You people should turn off all electronic devices for half year or year - to get some normal, clear thoughs. Why you even went into politics with this comment? And if it's double backing down, quit it. I'm not gonna entertain it.
@ it’s called doubling down btw. The only reason you’re angry is because you’re one of the turds that made the crappier choice 😂
@ well cmon loser? Start a fight and then have nothing else to say?
@nathalieebonheart4133 I'm not all that in tune with that kinda stuff but don't you have places to complain about that elsewhere where people are debating or arguing about it
@@nathalieebonheart4133but why bring it up here, isn't there places where people are actually looking for this kind of talk/debate
I get where Cuddy is coming from but House is 1000% right. The sad thing is Doctors will never say stuff like this cause of liability. It’s so stupid.
"It's coercive to tell them"
I want to agree with House but I can't get past the truth of that line
Edit: The stupidest stance you can take isn't about whether you agree with House or Cuddy. The stupidest stance you can take is to pretend this is an easy decision
@@blacktimhoward4322 All medical advice is coercive. You want to coerce the patient towards making healthier life choices in spite of their own stubbornness or their personal convictions.
Yeah telling parents to decide which child they would like to live is absolutely a fantastic idea.
@@DreddMann Literally happens in real life more often than you'd think.
Yes, it's so horrible to actually give then the facts. Life sucks, NOT telling them their options is manipulative. Telling them the truth is being an adult.
"did you hear of do no harm?" Thats the problem Cutty. Doing nothing is causing more harm than being open and honest.
I think she's just a coward. She knew that he was right.
@@overdrive7349cowardly? Maybe, but she’s not wrong either, can’t just ask somebody easily to give up their body parts and reduce half of their life span, even if it is to save another, it’s a scary dilemma.
It’s also about accountability and liability, because for anyone doing what House is proposing, however RIGHT his is, and he IS right, it would cost them their careers/livelihoods as the committee would be looking for someone to blame, in order for THEMSELVES to not have their own careers be put on the chopping block.
@@overdrive7349yeah but her job is to make sure the hospital keeps running, and agreeing to this puts the entire hospital at risk of a lawsuit and shutdown
@@Eldersh1eld and she has also put the hospital and patients at risk by not making the right decisions.
"Optimus... Take my parts...You will have a power you have never known...."
You wrong for that... but holy shit I'm ROLLING 💀💀💀
Foul 💀
“Fulfill… your destiny!”
"Jolt! Electrify! Transplant those after-burners!"
Dammn💀
“You are ready to live without me, I’m not ready live without *you* “
3:28 - 5:00 - I really like this scene, normally House is the one to recommend unethical or crazy ideas that make medical sense, but are cruel in nature. He does this without hesitation and typically the patient's/parents resent him for it. However, because of Cuddy's request due to their new relationship, House doesn't do this, and instead the father comes and begs House for a solution, which he reluctantly gives. This time, because the father asked House for any options, he ultimately thanks him.
I don't think the parents should make this kind of decision without involving their teenagers in the discussion. Especially not the one who would be donating the marrow and lung, because no matter what they decide, he could ultimately refuse, and no doctor would force it upon him. If he refuses, they don't have a choice to make. If she refuses, he's the only one who has the right to convince her to take it. The parents job is to make sure they both understand the consequences of either decision, as the doctors explained it to them, and ensure neither child feels pressured into either option.
It's fiction anyways.
@@zerieth6620 the buty of fiction is that it allows us to explore and confront experiences that we have never seen in person but are no less plausible for being fake
@@zerieth6620Thank you, Detective Holmes. Any other bright insights you’re willing to share with us?
The thing I kept noticing throughout this is that Cuddy keeps talking about what it would do to their son, but she never seems to mention the daughter. "Do no harm" should apply to both of them. It's a really crappy choice to be put in, but harm is going to be done either way. Either they shorten the son's lifespan, or they let his sister die. And the only reason things have gotten this bad in the first place is because she has been continuously putting herself aside for the sake of her brother
YES! She has already lived her whole looking after him. Hugo wants his sister to live, and, now that he has the chance, *wants* to save his sister. Let him do for her what she would do for him.
This is a long discussed flaw of the Hipocratic Oath-
'Do no harm' and 'ALLOW no harm' are different. For instance, if a doctor sees a patient about to be murdered and could only kill the attacker, TECHNICALLY the Oath would dictate they allow it. We'd understand why they would't ofc, but it's a technicality. In advising them to hasten the son's death they DO harm. in not doing so they ALLOW harm.
7:32 I wonder how many real doctors have ever wanted to say what House says to these parents. Love this episode. Thanks for uploading.
I’m sure there are many. Doctors are human.
Perhaps more should.
Too many. All over the world, I'm sure.😔😔
Maybe right before they retire 😂😅
No, I don't think they do. What drives House, Why is he a Doc, What is his driving force that brings him to the hospital? He is there because he is an official drug addict. He is able to feed his addiction via the hospital. A seasoned white-collar addict never loses sight of his next fix, and thats why he is a prick his patients and their parents. They are not the priority. In his core you can see a little twinge of guilt, but it doesn't last. Real Doctors do not attend their patients impaired on drugs. People like him often commit suicide, because this is a game where there is no winner.
I like how House handles pretty much confirmed death cases in the show. He was completely jokey and sarcastic with Taub right up to when he said she’s gonna die, and then you see it wash over House as well as he finally drops the act.
In a medical drama that's a little more comedic, I kinda like the more serious tone of this clip.
House M.D swings between comedy and serious drama with such practiced ease it's almost seamless, really well written television
But the boy has a choice since he knows he's about to die from his condition in a few years. And he said it the best by he can give her decades and he can't do stuff she can but he will be with her
Insurance companies kill people who would have lived all the time by rejecting life-saving treatment no lung donations required. We could end starvation and homelessness, yet we don't. Do No Harm was always a lie-profits pretending to be ethics
I love how the parents are making this decision when the reality of it is that it’s not their decision to make, it’s been his all along
Let's be real: that ending is how it should have happened. The donor and the person they're saving make the decision together.
"Don't make me live without you."
GOD MY FUCKING HEART-
😭
Man nicely acted by all. I like to think that familial love between siblings like this can exist in real life. It was so sad but beautiful
“Sometimes in life all we have are bad choices, but still we must choose.”
Doctor, is that you?
If you are a brother to a sister right now you’d feel the emotion of the final scene, I would 100000% die for my sister and I know it, it wouldn’t be a choice for me it’d be a no brainer.
If I knew I had a limited lifespan and could save my sister, I would do it.
We will all die one day, I only ask to not die in pain and/or suffering.
i wonder how real this is
Everyone is saying it’s sad, but take a piece from the doomed child in order to save the healthy one. The doomed child doesn’t have much time left anyway. I get it, the healthy one will live a normal healthy life at the expense of the unhealthy one’s very limited time span. But parents tend to be pretty irrational when it comes to the lives of every child they have. Think about it, to have a child you love more than anything in the world and risk their life in order to ensure the healthier one’s survival, regardless of the circumstances, is a pretty damn tall order to ask for a parent. Logically, it’s makes sense. Emotionally, it’s beyond devastating. 🤷🏽♂️
Niether are healthy or will survive!
@@Eric-yz2mpexactly. If they followed through with the choice they made, they’d lose both kids. One, later on. One, in less than a day, max.
They could either lose both their kids, or just one.
They wanted to lose their daughter, but the son saved his sis. Its a very sad episode.
@@alwayssleepy115 Correction: They were willing to lose both just so the son can just a few years longer.
Hugh Laurie just nails that American accent!
Not really. His R's are too hard. Like he's trying way too much. And it's a Midwest accent. There are many different types of American accents.
@@Emma88178 you better not be an american talking about a british actor and his american accent when NOT ONE american actor can do one of the many BRITISH ACCENTS( cause Britain has a ton of accents too, just so you know. The RP accent you like to put on and pretend its a "BRITISH" accent is not the only english accent, let alone british
Watch stuart little and you won't be saying the same
@@cam935n don't judge. Actors are actors
Oh damn, Xion / Kairi went skateboarding and ended up in the hospital needing a lung transplant.
I guess Sora forgot to give her lungs back when he freed her heart
Well my first comment or Roxas and her got a little nasty in training and he poked her lung out
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 Unfortunately Sora had no room for a second lung to give her because he was already hosting a second heart. Dammit Ventus!
@@sheepisfortheweak6164 don’t you mean a third heart then? His own before the suicide and after, Ven, and Kairi
This could've been avoided if Donald just cast Curaga
This...this is why you tell the doctors everything. They would rather have too much information rather than not enough.
My God ! The boy telling his sister how he feels took the stuffing out of me .
Wow!!! That ending just had me in tears!
This entire episode I was practically screaming at the tv “oh, COME ON! Let the son make his own damn choice, it’s his body, his lifespan and his bond with his sister! He’s not a damn ten-year-old, he knows what’s at stake here! If he’s gonna die young either way, he should get some say in this matter.”
“His body, his choice”? 😂😂
Yeah this is the hardest part for a parent. It’s not fair for anyone.
So I have a question about the lung. Im not sure what Hugo (the son) has but if it affects his lungs, wouldn't he transfer whatever he has to his sister? Am I missing something?
CMD stands for Congenital Muscular Dystrophy. It’s a muscle disease where the chest muscles weaken which causes difficulty breathing and a stiffening of the ribcage. Technically it doesn’t affect the lungs so if he’s the a donor match for the sister and the CMD hasn’t made the ribcage so stiff that he’s punctured a lung or something like that, he could still donate a lung and not give his sister the condition.
@@AlyssaK83 thank you for the explanation.
@AlyssaK83
My tired arse was thinking of C*W*D...Chronic Wasting Disease lol somewhat common in deer. Thank you for clarifying!
I had no idea Flo had such a traumatic past, must have led to her getting into insurance.
That final speech with the brother was heartbreaking
"It's never House."
-Lupus
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everyone is wrong. Both kids should have been involved from the start as both are obviously Gillick competent. That would have been the humane thing to do.
“As much as they may wanna pass the *lung* here” even in serious situations the man doesn’t miss a chance to make a bad pun😂
0:48 is that Flo from Progressive Auto?
This is kinda like the trolley problem
The trolly problem is only a problem if ya apply emotion, logic should be what dictates such choices
"There's no living with it, no matter what we decide."
I couldn't imagine having to choose between my two kids likw that.
I find it crazy the parents never brought their son into the conversation in the first place given HE'S the onw giving up his lung and marrow.
9:22 first time i watched this i had to pause the show and go for a walk
Me too.
The Actors are brilliant to cause me to feel so much.
without having childs it would be rather difficult to understand why the parents are so reluctant on losing one, when the choice is between losing one or losing both. It’s not a toy, it’s not a prize, it’s not a watch or a phone. It’s not the same as “You either lose one of your phone or both of it, you either lose one of your watch or both of it”. There’s only “You are going to lose your child.”
I read the title and thought it was a literal house explosion
“Don’t make me live without you.”
Goddamn that hits like a truck…
My brain the whole time: "camp rock girl?"
This episode completely destroyed me!! 😢 I can't imagine making this decision!!
These two siblings. I cry every time I see this
House was great, except everything they depicted as chronic pain and opioid dependence was wrong. There are drugs like clonidine that can relieve withdrawal symptoms and to see House always suffering was ridiculous.
We've seen House escape the pain, and he's chosen to go back to it, because the pain is part of what makes him him. In one episode he felt being without the pain made him too nice and patient and friendly and it made him a worse doctor in his opinion, so he went back to the pain. In another episode, he refused to take a chance to get rid of the pain because he made the choice that led to his pain and so he felt he needed to live with it.
She's going to remember this for the rest of her life.
House blows up now has two different meanings.
As an icu nurse i see these impossible decisions all the time but i will never sugar coat it i tell them all i know about both options HONESTLY so they have the ability to make an informed decision x
I swear everytime Cuddy opens her damn mouth, I get more and more pissed. She'd rather everyone practice "hand holdy lollipops and rainbows" medicine instead realizing how the world really works. Does she not realize that the brother wouldn't even make to 25 if his sister dies, knowing there was a chance of saving her. I'd give it 6 months tops after her death before he'd become so griefstricken that he'd unalive himself.
I’ve always liked the dynamic of House and Cuddy- how the job should be done from an objective perspective vs how it should be done from a moral perspective.
House is only ever concerned with cracking the case- even willing to literally break the law (which he does way more often than the show thinks). Cuddy, as the dean of an entire hospital, has to consider legality and morality. House always had a case of tunnel vision, his obsession with solving the case.
unalive is a stupid word, use the real one
@tukezdi TH-cam Guidelines prohibit it.
@tukezdiYou use it and tell us how It goes.
2:39 House CAN suggest the donor option because it's a legit option, it's better to say SHOULD he suggest it
As a younger sister, I lost two siblings to illness. It’s a no brainer for me, if they can save my older brother, u take what u need to save him from me. I would fight my parents on the matter.
I’m not crying; YOU’RE crying!
What does that even mean, literally? (I know what it means functionally!)
@@catherinesparkbruh
I literally started crying once the brother and his sisters started talking and the brother was trying to tell her to take his lung ❤❤❤❤.
"Didn't you hear of 'do no harm??'"
"You do know it's called the hypocratic oath for a reason, right?"
House was right that they weren’t given an impossible choice but a crappy choice and they chose the crappier option. I get that the parents doesn’t want to sacrifice their son. But the difference between a few years and a few decades is huge. Their daughter will die then their son will die in like five years. If they chose to save their daughter, their daughter could even live past them. She has a longer and brighter future ahead.
I believed their choice was really influenced by favouritism, since their son was constantly sick so they cared about him more in their heart which resulted in the daughter being neglected. You can tell by that the fact that their daughter had to put on a healthy and strong facade so that her parents won’t be worried about her and only focused on her brother. It’s a common story troupe where the sick one is cared for while the other sibling has to be mature for the sick sibling and is often neglected and treated unfairly.
Ummm… the mother in this episode. Isn’t that Flo from the Progressive commercials?
Aren’t we all?, Flo from the Progressive commercials?
Yep! It's her.
If the son was going to die anyway, why lose your daughter, as well?
Cuddy wasn't wrong about it being an impossible choice, but you also hit the nail on the head. Both of these kids were in a horrible situations, but the daughter at least had a chance for recovery, while the son was, unfortunately, on a time limit. The parents saying they wouldn't take the lung from their son was the worst decision they could have gone with, since they would have ended up losing both of their children. With House's idea, admittedly it is harsh, but it would be able to ensure that at least one of these kids would be able to live a longer life.
I can't even imagine what parents go through when situations like these would appear, but I could never see myself choosing to allow BOTH kids to die when an option, as morbid as it is, was present to save at least one of them.
Could you kill your son? That’s essentially what’s he is asking. As a parent it’s a crazy choice.
@sarahjames927 i agree. But could you choose to let your other child die when they could be saved? Yes, their son would die sooner, but he would have have died anyway. At least this way their daughter would live and, as he said, a part of him will always be with her. It's a shitty choice but it's the logical one.
@@sarahjames927That's not the question though. Would you rather have both your children die or at least have one of them live? One is going to die anyway eventually and one is about to die!
@@thedragonauthority Yeah, it sadly became a matter of pure pragmatical results, instead of losing 2 equally valuable things, the logic was to scarifice the one that was gonna, without a doubt, be lost eventually for the sake of the one that wouldnt.
The title of this video is so stupid. They weren't choosing not to save her, they had to choose between their two children. I don't have kids, but that's not a situation I would wish on anyone.
Yeah no. House is not correct here. Judging their choice because “your son is gonna die anyway there’s no reason to not shorten his time” is insane. You can’t ask parents which kid they’d rather have live and that is exactly what he did. The girl didn’t want it to happen anyway, so if they did it what makes anyone think the guilt wouldn’t cause her to kill herself when her brother died. Do no harm includes mental health and house honestly was never a good person anyway.
The whole thing is that while Cuddy is 100% right that it's not House's call to intervene in that drama (It's not any doctor's call), it's not the parents's either! It's the fucking boy's call. The parents need to sign off on that, ofc, but they need to understand that their own opinion is irrelevant compared to their son's. He makes the call and then the parents sign the forms.
Mathematically, it makes sense for the boy to donate, the dilemma is "lose one son or lose both children", but I get why the parents are leaning towards the latter option: It's just heartbreaking to sacrifice your own child to save another. But there's the thing: The boy *wants* to sacrifice himself. He loves his sister, his sister got herself in that whole issue because she loved her family more than she valued her own health. The boy knows his days are already numbered, so if he wants to sacrifice himself, I commend him for being such a brave young man.
(Before anyone says "It's just a show", I fucking know, that doesn't mean I won't emotionally engage with it while the clip keeps running)
Don't mind me, just bawling my eyes out here. 😭😭😭
9:30 Where the hell did all these tears come from?
How did this end? Did she get the lung? Did the boy die?
Yeah it shown off screen but yeah she did get lung transplant. house apologizes for going behind Cuddy back and telling the dad the options but Cuddy admits it’s the first real conversation they had as a couple. Cuddy suggests if they are this honest their relationship might work and House grabs her butt much to her amusement as she holds his hand
What a phenomenally great show.
Worst case of favoritism I’ve ever seen, they’d rather get a couple more years with their golden boy tied to machines against his wishes than let their daughter live a full life. And the sick part is this isn’t even unrealistic.
I don’t think it’s favoritism. In their minds, they are choosing between their daughter’s or their son’s life. It is so easy from the outside, but humans tend to see lack of action as more guilt-free than doing something. By taking away their son’s lung, they are directly hurting him. By not doing so, they are doing nothing to hurt him; they are also doing nothing to save their daughter, but that means less guilt than harming their son.
Insane comment how is this favoritism? Humans aren’t math equations depriving the life of one to give to another is not cut and dry
@fullysemiautomatic5618 Yes, they are. Humans have never been anything but a number all their lives.
What do you think a social security number is?
Baby No. XXXX born on this day
Student No. XXX graduate on this day
Employee No. XXX paid this much
Citizen No. XXX paid this much in taxes.
I'm confused. I guess I'll have to watch this entire episode, because my understanding is that "sickle cell trait" means that you are just a carrier of one half of the gene that causes the disease. My 40 year old African-American son has the trait, and he has passed it down to both of his mixed-race daughters. None of them have any symptoms like this girl.
Yes. If you have a homozygous dominant gene of the sickle cell traits you have the disease.
If you have a Heterozygous genotype, you are a carrier. You don’t have the disease, but you have a 25% chance of your offspring having the disease. I’m not sure if haus said she has the trait or the disease, if she had only the trait it would be medically inaccurate but knowing haus almost all info in the show is accurate.
Got this randomly recommended to me and forgot dude was named House 💀
Reading the title I thought an actual house blows up
get rid of the sirens at the end of the video.
who names their kid House?
House is his last name.
@@FunSizeSpamberguesa Who names their kid MD?
His name is _Gregory_ House, but I've only seen his mother call him Gregory.
Everyone else just calls him House.
Even Dr. Cuddy, (who would eventually become his girlfriend) calls him that.
@@kerimca98😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
People help me, where did the mother of the girl also work?!
I think a medical professional is ethically and legally obligated to tell their patients all options. That’s what defines informed consent. For living donor candidates who are CONSIDERING it, there are living donor advocates who are supposed to support potential donors so they can make their decision without external pressure.
It’s never easy, mind. And normally it wouldn’t matter because the definition of an option is that you don’t have to take it. What’s extra upsetting here is that, on some level, people understand there is no real option. It’s two dead children vs one dead child. There is no happy ending, no words for how gut wrenching and awful this is. Ultimately though, that’s for the family to decide, not the doctors.
In the end, one of the biggest responsibilities of medical professionals is to disclose all information of the diagnosis, treatment options, treatment details, risks, etc. To not INFORM them that this is a viable option when it could save their patient is to take from the patient’s autonomy. TELLING them isn’t coercion, and it’s actually a major point that House actually DIDN’T initially try to coerce a patient or guardian for once.
What he did AFTER with his rant could definitely be considered coercion, though hospital dramas tend to have a lot of it. But to be fair, Lisa then yelling and arguing back could also be considered coercion if this incident is reviewed despite her more sympathetic stance. It’s typically why medical professionals are supposed to take these kinds of conversations somewhere else and not do this shit in front of the patient/guardians. Like, screaming a private medical situation in a public hallway? Generally considered NOT GOOD. And then the son actually heard it and made his decision right after?
I misinterpreted that as "House(like an actual house) explodes at(due to) parents"
Isabella, Flo, and House all in the same room
It's sad when the _children_ have to be the adults.
🙂↕️ Indeed, my friend….!! 💯👎🏼💔😞🥺😢😭🤏🏼🤧
Well your pfp is ironic then, endorsing a state which is well known for g*nocide, making children orphans on the daily, countless other atrocities.
The list is long.
What an interesting thing to say, with that pfp
@@tabithachastain6999 yea he reported my comment when I said the same
Lose one child, or lose two. Theyre choosing badly
ngl the kid actors killed it goddamn this shit made me emo
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Why do they need to take the marrow and lung piece from the son? If it needs to be from a family member why not take it from either parent?
Lungs are hard to transplant.
Who keeps cutting onions????
House is basically asking them to choose between their children. If he was a parent, he would understand how impossible that is
He knows full well what he's asking them to do. But it's also something that happens every time there's a Mass Cas Event. Doctors have to choose who to save, and who to let go. The best case scenario for someone with CMD is that they live to see 30. They likely won't have children, and will be bound to a wheelchair most of their lives. Letting her go to save him ultimately means they lose both within a few years of one another. If she lives, she can have a full life where she could get married, and have her own children at some point.
Choose between them? Look at the situation; it’s either they let one die, or BOTH.
I hope you aren't a parent with that stupid diagnosis
The situation was either they do nothing and end up losing their daughter over the next few days and get another 5-6 years with their son and his detreating health. Or they take the transplant from their son and get maybe another couple years with their son with the high chance their daughter will make a recovery and go on to life a full life. So....would you rather choose the option where you lose both your children over the next 5 years or get a few more years with the one child that is already dying so the other can live a full life?
@@bloodwolfgaming9269 Only a full life for the daughter if she can live with the guilt of being partially responsible for her brother passing away sooner. It's a pretty significant burden for a child to carry. Big part of why it's important to involve said offspring in the decision.
My sobs
Why doesn't one of the parents offer to donate a lung?
Because even though they are biological parents, there is still the chance that there isn't a match and the new tissue would be rejected. It happens all the time, a child needs a tissue/organ donation and even though the parents are willing, the compatibility is not able to allow it. The chances of a match are more likely in siblings than in parents, but even that isn't a guarantee; it is lucky that the daughter was a match with her brother.
@@Nirvash89I can tell you that as a transplant recipient, this is false. As long as the blood type is a match. The rest is irrelevant. Immunosuppressant medications can take care of the rest. I'm just pointing out that this wasn't thrown out as an option by the medical team to one of them and it might have given house a better idea of a way of throwing something back in the family's face. For instance, my son donated a kidney to me, he certainly wasn't a perfect match to me yet was able to pull off the process. Process. The genetics would work the same in reverse parent to son.
@@Nirvash89 VERY unlikely either parent would be a match.
Does she have sickle cell disease? I never heard that closely. Does that mean she inherited the gene from a parent? Wouldn't that disqualify the parents from donating?
Look as a transplant recipient, the only thing that needs to match is the blood type, you can give a zero out of six antigen organ and still have it work. I should know this as I've had a kidney transplant myself. I know that there's a lot of artistic license used on television programs like this, but I'm sort of a stickler for transplant portrayed accurately in TV programs. The chance of a compatible organ being from a parent is just as likely as it would be from a sibling. I don't know the episode well enough, but unless they are identical twins, clearly they're not as their opposite sex, there's really not going to be an advantage here. I know this is possible because my own father offered to donate a kidney to me at the same time that my son donated, my son turned out to be a better match. Even my ex-wife tried to donate, and she clearly has no genetic attachment to me. All I'm saying is that would have been the first thing as a physician that I would have suggested and I think it would have been something that house would have suggested as well if anything to get under the parent's skin. The sickle cell thing may be true. It's been a long time since I've seen this episode. Perhaps that's a plausible answer? I don't know? As I say, there's just a lot of artistic license done around transplant on these medical shows, also, the idea of some doctor running into an emergency room asking a car victim to be declared brain dead so they can harvest their organs and things of this sort. That stuff just doesn't happen
Mom is Flo from Progressive
This is one more case of tragedy because of STUPIDITY.but since she's a kid she's excused.but if she wasn't stupid,she would have known her health Matters Too.Ignoring it just Endangered her life!.this is why Stupid IS DANGEROUS!
After this, mom left to work for Progressive.
Aren't the lungs the only organ in the body that can actually regenerate themselves with proper stimulation through some kind of drug cocktail?
That's your liver
If the parents had switched to Progressive, they would've had a chance.
That girl pissed me off on how dumb she was acting. You knew your bro had a few years tops, and you want to sacrifice yourself? Yeah, let your parents leave without both kids.
You are arrogant
Hey house…
Whatchu doin?
I think people are missing that because this is House and a TV show, we know he'll fix the problem if he gets enough tries. Even with new information, it's not a guarantee, even with regular transplants carefully planned out. It's easy to do the math of sacrificing 5-10 years of the son's life to save a lifetime of the daughters, but what if it fails again? Then the daughter dies, and now your son is going to die much sooner. Even in cases where things are terminal, patients keep hope to survive on medical innovations, making death sentences livable, like with HIV.
So house blows up
Or house blows up?
I mean it’s either lose both kids or just one. I gets it’s a hard decision but at the same time it’s also pretty simple. Whole in their right mind would want to lose two kids? I mean in a perfect world both kids could survive. But unfortunately that’s not how it is. The kid is dying regardless. It’s just comes down to how long he has left. It’s a no brained decision. Hard or not there’s a right choice here.
do you have a child
@@holmesholmes.8784 If i did, i sure as hell would want to have a chance to at least raise one instead of losing all of them at once which would probably completely break my sanity
This really makes me not want to get progressive insurance. SHAME ON YOU FLO
Don't get to play god she says, literally her & most of the team plays god anyhow when they stubbornly pick between which out of the 2 patients to be save in most episodes anyhow, no different to House other than he's rarely a hypocrite & is mostly a blunt introverted sociopath.