I feel like I’m going crazy, everyone keeps saying Krazinski was amazing but I just don’t think so. It didn’t feel like Reed to me. He just played “soft spoken scientist guy” and he was stiff the whole time. I just don’t see it.
@@procyonmv729 it felt random, intead of talking ang getting flashbacks they put a mcguffin in the middle of he street that shows random memory from your brain and that for pure luck showed the corret one for the story
Wanda’s arc in this film reminds me of Daenerys in S8. I saw what they were doing, and I guess there were hints of that previously- but I wish there was more time developing it so that it didn’t feel so disjointed. Good movie overall, but it didn’t meet my expectations personally. I definitely think the extra 20mins would have helped. The horror sequence was amazing though! Overall, I don’t know what I would change, but at the end I left thinking “that was alright”.
THIS! I actually said the same thing, they did a Daenerys with her The best and worst part of this movie are both Wanda; if you see her just as this unstoppable force of evil coming to get you, it leads to really cool and intense scenes and action; If you see her as a character and take into account her story, it just doesn't make sense and her turn feels rushed and unearned. i think they are trying to have it both ways, by vaguely having the Wanda/ Scarlett Witch as different characters, kind of Jean grey/ Dark phoenix, so they can make her a hero again if they want, which I think is the more lazy coward way to make her bad, they should have committed and develop her character so her change felt natural and tragic. Nonetheless the movie is entertaining and a turn off your brain good time, could have been so much better though if they worked more on fixing Wanda's arc.
Jesus Christ. I can’t think of a worse possible comparison. This comment alone makes me want to never seen this movie and memory hole the entire thing from the universe haha
No I disagree. We always knew this was coming. She came in as a villain that was redeemed. We had 10 episodes of WandaVision to watch her lose it before this...
I feel like I need some clarification on what the Scarlet Witch actually is, like has Wanda been possessed by this thing? Is Wanda herself actually accountable for her actions in this movie?
thank you guys, you’re articulating so perfectly my issues with dr. strange’s lack of development by pointing out what would have hit harder. they definitely failed to establish him being the ‘greatest threat to the multiverse’, and there was so much more to explore with his reactions to his choices in the other movies.
This movie was entertainingly frustrating. It was a cameo injected retread of WandaVision with a bigger budget. America Chavez was a fun character but very one note. The CGI was very disjointed. Dr. Strange's potential as the Sorcerer Supreme was missed yet again. As a big fan of the first Dr. Strange I'm disappointed with this sequel. Story beats from the first film are dropped here for multiverse setup. Potentially having to wait another 4+ years for another solo Dr. Strange movie.
The movie was very cohesive 😂. Since the start of the movie, there were specific themes and plot elements that were throughout each universe/place they went to. Aside from the great plot with detailed motives for each character, the visual and sound effects of the movie were spectacular. The score was incredible. And I’m a sucker for horror movies and bad ass villains.
It was a fun movie. A great ride. I guess you can compare this film to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, not a great sequel and overwhelming, if that makes sense. I loved Wanda's arc in this film. Wanda has been such a damaged person with so much emotional pain, I'm not surprised she went bat-sh!t. MCU gave us the Dark Phoenix Saga that Fox could never do. I even thought the CGI looked good and it normally sucks in MCU films, the last Spiderman film had crummy CGI. The deaths of the Illuminati was so much fun and surprising that this film went there and showed blood. I loved seeing professor X and hearing the 92 X-Men theme. The yellow wheelchair was ok and a cool call back but it wasn't hovering and it was huge! it wasnt designed well. Prof. X looked like Captain Pike in that yellow box. I thought I would hate America Chavez but she was alright, I was fine that she was the Mcguffin. I was glad seeing Black Bolt and glad that Anson Mount came back to play the character.
Iron Man 2: Fights a worse engineer and worse businessman than him. Guardians 2: Fights a living planet that a bunch of space pirates can handle. Thor 2: Bruh. Captain America 2: Fights other human beings and one super soldier who at the end saves his life. Ant-Man 2: Fights someone with a degenerative time disease and house arrest. Dr. Strange is the only guy who from day one is fighting opponents better and more powerful than him, and he keeps winning. This time? He has to fight against a crazy lady who isn't fit for multidimensional child custody powered by the most evil artifact in creation, and other versions of himself who were similarly affected by the same artifact. Put some respect on his name.
"multidimensional child custody" lol. They did..briefly..suggest Dr.S could have, in his longing to regain Christine's love, gone down the Darkhold. Trouble with that is everyone watching the movie is more taken with McAdams's Christine than Dr. S is...no chemistry there at all.
I was kinda disappointed with the movie tbh. Too much telling and exposition dumps, too little showing through interactions and definitely a way too lenient use of deus ex machina solutions. Oh and not to forget plot holes or rather inconsistent. Like, why are the damned souls kicked by Christine as if they're physically tangible and then Wanda waves her arms through them? That's just one thing that comes to mind rn.
The krasinsky we saw has clearly gone through an arc and throwing a 40+ yr old Reed in to a new series would be a death sentence to the longevity of that character. We need a young fresh out of college reed. Not old man reed.
Exactly, NWh was just an extended cameo movie and payoff to to some nostalgic characters, I felt the dialogues of NWH was kinda below average too, on the other hand MOM felt like a new phase of MCU movie, and cameos were just there to serve its purpose
We needed more backtime / action of the Illuminati to build their reputation (without relying on past knowledge of the characters) to make their deaths meaningful beyond gruesome. Otherwise, I thought every scene with Wanda was perfect with Olsen’s performance.
This movie was the definition of ok. Nothing in the movie is really great in any way. The plot is all over the place, Dr. strange is kind of a bystander for a lot of it, and the raimi-ish stuff was just fine, nothing special. Seeing some blood and a couple jumpscares doesn't really make a movie unique even if its in the MCU. Kevin feige and co did a pretty heavy lobotomy on this film and it shows. Also bonus points for saying the events of wandavision didn't matter
I usually agree with the soup boys, but not this time fellas, I really thought it was kind of just bad, lots of plot holes, weird character choices and justifications, bad pacing, so many scenes seemed crowbarred in with awkward dialogue, and a real lack of just climatic cool moments for an mcu move. I don’t know maybe I gotta watch it again, cause I genuinely left the theater so dejected because of how much I wanted it to be good.
for me the only reason I would have wanted more time was just to see more of the multiverse, otherwise I thought it was damn good movie. Sucks for you if you didn't get to see the cameos you made up in your mind.
I think the whole “you’ve sent us everywhere we need to go” line wasn’t lazy writing, because it wan’t about America at all. It was our universe’s Dr. Strange having an epiphany that trying to control everything is his own major fault. Even Wong says “take her power”, but Dr. Strange turns it into a parenting moment where you have to count on your adult kid to do the right thing and not do it for them. The hardest thing in the world for an egomaniac like younger Dr. Strange would be to allow someone else to step up and save the day.
I think this was one of the 5 worst theater experiences I’ve ever had. I respect the opinions of those that liked it, but I genuinely can’t remember any scenes where I was having a good time.
@@M.T.G I’ve liked most everything from the MCU, I like to think I don’t just look for issues in these movies. Personally, I thought the CGI was a little excessive (I knew that going in but it was more off-putting than I thought it would be) and I just didn’t buy that the character presented in this movie was the Wanda from the movies and show I had seen. I also wasn’t much for the ‘horror’ scenes, they took me out of the movie completely. Either way, it’s okay that you liked it and I didn’t. Im glad you were able to have a great time with it. I wish I did too, I just didn’t.
@Alba Let her murder a teenage girl for her power and kill an alternate version of herself in order to take over her family? I bet you think Griffith did nothing wrong…
I went to see it for Doctor Strange and Wanda. I didn't care about the cameos. I liked America Chavez a lot. I loved this movie so much. The symphony fight scene was so cool, the audience was eating it up. I'm happy this movie exists tbh.
movie was ok, i enjoyed it enough, should have been a lot better given what they had to work with tho,, the story felt very whatever with a lot of cheese, but hey it was still fun i guess, im happy enough to have seen more of strange and wanda
? Well spoilers ... in the Universe with the Illuminati the Blip didn't even happen, they killed Thanos in their infinity war never even made it to Endgame. Other universes might not have been as lucky
Youre confusing multiverses with timelines. Our universe wasn't the only one who beat thanos. Our universes only way to defeat thanos was through the blip
I also think that Dr. Strange needed to look into all futures that had BOTH: - gotten to the exact point they were at on the planet - somehow come back from that In that regard, maybe there was only one path out. In the multi-verse, however, there were infinite ways for Thanos to have been foiled before they ended up where they were.
You guys were really spitting with this one. I don’t really understand how people say that too high of expectations are the reasons that others don’t enjoy it. Like it’s a cool ass premise, especially coming off of Everything, Everywhere, all at once and seeing what they did with it. To only see 2 other Dr. Stranges and not really even dive that deep into the psyche of his failure and arrogance that he’s told about really let me underwhelmed
I either wanted a fully dr strange focused movie or a movie addressing all the multiverse events that have happened since the tv shows and connecting the dots. Wandavision's end credits hinted multiverse, but the entire Loki s1 was about the multiverse, yet there was no direct relation with this movie. I came out feeling that I've watched 'wanda and the multiverse of madness' with no conclusion regarding what happened to her at the end.
the editing was a bit meeh , there were too many cuts between scenes , and some really unecessary jump scares , goofy-ish , and i agree with the thing abt america , they shiwed she first discoverd her powers at like 6 7 yo , and the movie she was like 14 15 , all this time she xouldnt figure it somethung abt her powers , it was lazy writing
Really disappointed in the scarlet witches main purpose in this movie. I get that she wants to be with her kids but why not make her own in her own universe? Also the reason she wanted to kill America was to take her powers and travel universes to find medicine if her kids get sick? Like she needed to kill an innocent kid and hundreds of others just to get Advil from other multi verses? Like what
For me the only real disappointment was that America Chavez didn't have any arch or development to speak of. Her controlling her powers via a pep talk was too easy and didn't feel like real development. Also the complete lack of payoff on her backstory and the fact it felt like a thing that happened to her more than something that's defining her. Otherwise I really enjoyed it, and Rami did a great job
My problem is...wanda Is a villain now. Not a hero who went a little dark like Hawkeye..she did sbsolute evil..murdering a lot of innocent..and good people across multiple universes. You cant just slot her back in and everyones ok with her...and that's what theyll do. Pretend everything is cool and noone has a problem with a person who slaughtered innocents to get what she wants...she was even going to kill her alternate self..and a child. And theres no way to write her back in without people like captain marvel thor etc wanting to destroy her
I overall liked the movie but I definitely had a few concerns with the writing. The chemistry between Strange and Chavez was unnatural. In just few minutes he started behaving like she’s his daughter. Not to forget the almost non existent character development for Chavez. Even though Wanda was to be perceived as the “villain” here, I couldn’t help but root for her because I can connect to her story on so many levels. And the cliched ending where after a few motivational words Chavez gains the control for her power. It was just too predictable and lacks logic imo. But, there were definitely bits I absolutely loved in this movie. The overall dark horror vibes and the cgi was top notch. I knew there’s a lot of fuss going around with the cameos but it was never promised and people are just ruining their own cup of tea by making too much expectations. The baseless rumours were definitely pushed by the fans on social media eventually leading for the disappointment. It was not a problem for me at all and I was actually amazed by the revelation about Wanda being too op for the Illuminati. Overall, I’d rate it 8/10 considering the room for improvement.
Wanda became a literal monster with the flip of a switch... Far worse than the girl conciously usong her powers. In wandavision what shes doing is sibvoncious and she feels horrible for it when she realises it. Then here..she chooses absolute evil
I watched this movie and was lost. Like every MCU film. Would be great if you could bring out a guide to all the movies, where to start, what sequence to watch, little 10 minutes 'what you should have noticed' vids after each... you could do a series with a film each week... I'd follow that !
Any movie that's introduced a legacy character so far has done them pretty well, Spiderverse being the big standout. Don't have much hope for Ms Marvel though, and I really wish that everyone's collective memory of RhiRhi Williams would just be wiped and she'd never get brought up by anyone ever again.
Because it’s the first marvel movie that felt like a directors vision and not a studio assembling line movie, IMO It’s not perfect, but it easily has some of the best moments/sequences in the MCU and was one of the most daring. Plus it wasn’t scared to be violent which was a nice change. For some reason seeing someone get stabbed with a clean blade takes me out of a movie, more so than something outlandish such as a talking tree or raccoon lol.
@@nicklannister2063 felt like a Sam Ramai movie first imo before a MCU movie. And this is the only MCU where that felt like the case IMO. Taika Waiti’s Ragnorak is pretty close though or James Gunns GoTG. Though Doctor Strange legit felt like other movies the director has made in the past. It’s all subjective, but I stand by my opinion.
Shout out to Marissa. Yes Wanda already done turned villianese...in Wandavision. Conversely, all the folks with *a problem* how "they did" Wanda dirty... i missed where Chaos Magic was incorporated into a strategy of 3rd wave feminism. She's a witch! NOT a midwife, horribly burned at the stake by the evil madness of true historical patriarchy. There may, (there are) "good" witch stories to be told..but that's not Wanda's story. The real issue here is how Wandavision got to precede this movie, for a dozen different reasons. Having Wanda turn villianese is so convoluted..because.. she created..by Chaos Magic...her children...and they don't exist in the 616...but they're real ( 😳) in other multiverses and to their real ( 😳) mothers in those mulitverses? And real ( 😳 ) because they have to exist somewhere in order to ready for when...New Avengers, Assemble!
I really did not like all the call backs to non marvel horror films. Like did we let Grandpa direct this and let him have his last hoorah! It was a total bore.
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I feel the same way that it really needed 20-25 mins additional to breath between scenes.
Wanda at the start..explaining to doctor strange how losing everything destroyed her and the pain was unvearable
"They go out. Nice glass of wine. Desert. Come back home. Hate each other."
HAHA. That was awesome.
I feel like I’m going crazy, everyone keeps saying Krazinski was amazing but I just don’t think so. It didn’t feel like Reed to me. He just played “soft spoken scientist guy” and he was stiff the whole time. I just don’t see it.
I guess I'm the only insane one who thoroughly enjoyed this movie & came in with no expectations
I did too, all these expectations people use to judge a movie are being ridiculous.
i did as well, the only "bullshitty" scene was the memory lane, weird way of explaining the past
@@TiotiopJ it was a neat and brilliant way to make an emotional attachment to the characters rather than them explaining things.
@@procyonmv729 it felt random, intead of talking ang getting flashbacks they put a mcguffin in the middle of he street that shows random memory from your brain and that for pure luck showed the corret one for the story
I liked it at first but the more I think of it I might actually love it. I definitely want to see it again. It was so different I loved it.
Wanda’s arc in this film reminds me of Daenerys in S8. I saw what they were doing, and I guess there were hints of that previously- but I wish there was more time developing it so that it didn’t feel so disjointed.
Good movie overall, but it didn’t meet my expectations personally. I definitely think the extra 20mins would have helped. The horror sequence was amazing though!
Overall, I don’t know what I would change, but at the end I left thinking “that was alright”.
THIS! I actually said the same thing, they did a Daenerys with her The best and worst part of this movie are both Wanda; if you see her just as this unstoppable force of evil coming to get you, it leads to really cool and intense scenes and action; If you see her as a character and take into account her story, it just doesn't make sense and her turn feels rushed and unearned.
i think they are trying to have it both ways, by vaguely having the Wanda/ Scarlett Witch as different characters, kind of Jean grey/ Dark phoenix, so they can make her a hero again if they want, which I think is the more lazy coward way to make her bad, they should have committed and develop her character so her change felt natural and tragic.
Nonetheless the movie is entertaining and a turn off your brain good time, could have been so much better though if they worked more on fixing Wanda's arc.
Jesus Christ. I can’t think of a worse possible comparison. This comment alone makes me want to never seen this movie and memory hole the entire thing from the universe haha
No I disagree. We always knew this was coming. She came in as a villain that was redeemed.
We had 10 episodes of WandaVision to watch her lose it before this...
I feel like I need some clarification on what the Scarlet Witch actually is, like has Wanda been possessed by this thing? Is Wanda herself actually accountable for her actions in this movie?
Wandavision more or less explains that if you haven’t watched it.
thank you guys, you’re articulating so perfectly my issues with dr. strange’s lack of development by pointing out what would have hit harder. they definitely failed to establish him being the ‘greatest threat to the multiverse’, and there was so much more to explore with his reactions to his choices in the other movies.
Your comment kind of reminded me of the whole Pandorica Doctor Who storyline.
“Maybe that’s idea of having power, you don’t know until you’re up there on that dragon” Beau casually dropping the most fire line of 2022
I thought the movie was really good
It does not matter what you think
This movie was entertainingly frustrating. It was a cameo injected retread of WandaVision with a bigger budget. America Chavez was a fun character but very one note. The CGI was very disjointed. Dr. Strange's potential as the Sorcerer Supreme was missed yet again. As a big fan of the first Dr. Strange I'm disappointed with this sequel. Story beats from the first film are dropped here for multiverse setup. Potentially having to wait another 4+ years for another solo Dr. Strange movie.
The movie was very cohesive 😂. Since the start of the movie, there were specific themes and plot elements that were throughout each universe/place they went to. Aside from the great plot with detailed motives for each character, the visual and sound effects of the movie were spectacular. The score was incredible. And I’m a sucker for horror movies and bad ass villains.
People expected way too much from this movie, if you always make high expectations, you will always be disappointed
Yeah exactly I tried to go in with an open mind and honestly loved this movie
Facts
@@nateryan1820 So did I man always keep an open mind and you’d be surprised of how many things excite you
14:20 She was like the first Terminator after the truck blew up and he was chasing the heroes through the plant.
It was a fun movie. A great ride. I guess you can compare this film to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, not a great sequel and overwhelming, if that makes sense. I loved Wanda's arc in this film. Wanda has been such a damaged person with so much emotional pain, I'm not surprised she went bat-sh!t. MCU gave us the Dark Phoenix Saga that Fox could never do. I even thought the CGI looked good and it normally sucks in MCU films, the last Spiderman film had crummy CGI. The deaths of the Illuminati was so much fun and surprising that this film went there and showed blood. I loved seeing professor X and hearing the 92 X-Men theme. The yellow wheelchair was ok and a cool call back but it wasn't hovering and it was huge! it wasnt designed well. Prof. X looked like Captain Pike in that yellow box. I thought I would hate America Chavez but she was alright, I was fine that she was the Mcguffin. I was glad seeing Black Bolt and glad that Anson Mount came back to play the character.
Definitely not a fan of that third eye either lol
Iron Man 2: Fights a worse engineer and worse businessman than him. Guardians 2: Fights a living planet that a bunch of space pirates can handle. Thor 2: Bruh. Captain America 2: Fights other human beings and one super soldier who at the end saves his life. Ant-Man 2: Fights someone with a degenerative time disease and house arrest. Dr. Strange is the only guy who from day one is fighting opponents better and more powerful than him, and he keeps winning. This time? He has to fight against a crazy lady who isn't fit for multidimensional child custody powered by the most evil artifact in creation, and other versions of himself who were similarly affected by the same artifact. Put some respect on his name.
"multidimensional child custody" lol. They did..briefly..suggest Dr.S could have, in his longing to regain Christine's love, gone down the Darkhold. Trouble with that is everyone watching the movie is more taken with McAdams's Christine than Dr. S is...no chemistry there at all.
Thank you for dropping this when I needed it the most
The doom and strange movie must be simply called “doctor doctor”
I was kinda disappointed with the movie tbh. Too much telling and exposition dumps, too little showing through interactions and definitely a way too lenient use of deus ex machina solutions. Oh and not to forget plot holes or rather inconsistent. Like, why are the damned souls kicked by Christine as if they're physically tangible and then Wanda waves her arms through them? That's just one thing that comes to mind rn.
The krasinsky we saw has clearly gone through an arc and throwing a 40+ yr old Reed in to a new series would be a death sentence to the longevity of that character.
We need a young fresh out of college reed. Not old man reed.
I enjoyed this alot more than NWH. Something a little different from Marvel and I think its the best movie post endgame era.
Lol not even close
Exactly, NWh was just an extended cameo movie and payoff to to some nostalgic characters, I felt the dialogues of NWH was kinda below average too, on the other hand MOM felt like a new phase of MCU movie, and cameos were just there to serve its purpose
We needed more backtime / action of the Illuminati to build their reputation (without relying on past knowledge of the characters) to make their deaths meaningful beyond gruesome. Otherwise, I thought every scene with Wanda was perfect with Olsen’s performance.
Your 10th of a second timer was stopping after 2. The time was off and the entire time it kept bothering me.
This movie was the definition of ok. Nothing in the movie is really great in any way. The plot is all over the place, Dr. strange is kind of a bystander for a lot of it, and the raimi-ish stuff was just fine, nothing special. Seeing some blood and a couple jumpscares doesn't really make a movie unique even if its in the MCU. Kevin feige and co did a pretty heavy lobotomy on this film and it shows. Also bonus points for saying the events of wandavision didn't matter
thanx for reminding me of that SNL sketch with Charlize where shes drunk and hates her husband hahahaha
Get your muh fuckin spoons ready
I usually agree with the soup boys, but not this time fellas, I really thought it was kind of just bad, lots of plot holes, weird character choices and justifications, bad pacing, so many scenes seemed crowbarred in with awkward dialogue, and a real lack of just climatic cool moments for an mcu move. I don’t know maybe I gotta watch it again, cause I genuinely left the theater so dejected because of how much I wanted it to be good.
for me the only reason I would have wanted more time was just to see more of the multiverse, otherwise I thought it was damn good movie. Sucks for you if you didn't get to see the cameos you made up in your mind.
Yea right. I wanted more cameos but I can’t judge the movie off what I wanted to see, you can only base it off the product we got
I think the whole “you’ve sent us everywhere we need to go” line wasn’t lazy writing, because it wan’t about America at all. It was our universe’s Dr. Strange having an epiphany that trying to control everything is his own major fault. Even Wong says “take her power”, but Dr. Strange turns it into a parenting moment where you have to count on your adult kid to do the right thing and not do it for them. The hardest thing in the world for an egomaniac like younger Dr. Strange would be to allow someone else to step up and save the day.
Had to like this video for the vin diesel “family Family FAMILY” comment, that’s gold
I liked how dark it was. My wife found it scary
Love the new look you got here
The audio quality also seems better maybe that’s just me tho
Doctor strange was the sorcerer's supreme until the snap. Wong wasn't snapped.
Excellent, guys! Once again: Thank you!
You know if you didn't see someone die onscreen they're not dead. Except for loki he just does his own thing🤣🤣
liked the movie but the memory lane part was a bit too random for me, and the pep talk at the end
I thought it did a good job giving Wanda a kind real redemption, after Wanda version I still saw her as a villain
Great take on how it could have been longer, Dr S. could have used the 20 bloated minutes from The Batman.
Love you guys
I think this was one of the 5 worst theater experiences I’ve ever had. I respect the opinions of those that liked it, but I genuinely can’t remember any scenes where I was having a good time.
It’s okay to have bad takes
@@WHlSKYtx yes, just like It’s okay to be a pretentious gatekeeper on TH-cam.
If u couldn’t enjoy anything from this movie, you’re definitely the problem
@@M.T.G I’ve liked most everything from the MCU, I like to think I don’t just look for issues in these movies. Personally, I thought the CGI was a little excessive (I knew that going in but it was more off-putting than I thought it would be) and I just didn’t buy that the character presented in this movie was the Wanda from the movies and show I had seen. I also wasn’t much for the ‘horror’ scenes, they took me out of the movie completely.
Either way, it’s okay that you liked it and I didn’t. Im glad you were able to have a great time with it. I wish I did too, I just didn’t.
It was awful
“What about Jesus, first sorcer supreme” LMAO 🤣
Wasnt a great movie to be honest :/
I’m trying to recall what in daredevil was scary if anything
I LOVED it! I was on Wanda's side the whole time xD Let this woman be happy!
@Alba Let her murder a teenage girl for her power and kill an alternate version of herself in order to take over her family? I bet you think Griffith did nothing wrong…
@@michaelh9649 i don't know her! 😂 thank God it's only a fictional teenage girl in a fictional world full of fictional universes 😂
Congrats Teddy on baby!
Young avengers gonna be fiya with America Chavez and Florence Pugh
Not catching up with our Mordo from the first film was my only issue with the movie
I went to see it for Doctor Strange and Wanda. I didn't care about the cameos. I liked America Chavez a lot. I loved this movie so much. The symphony fight scene was so cool, the audience was eating it up. I'm happy this movie exists tbh.
movie was ok, i enjoyed it enough, should have been a lot better given what they had to work with tho,, the story felt very whatever with a lot of cheese, but hey it was still fun i guess, im happy enough to have seen more of strange and wanda
havent seen the movie yet but my only question is, if our universe is the only one that beat thanos, how are the other universes still fine?
? Well spoilers ... in the Universe with the Illuminati the Blip didn't even happen, they killed Thanos in their infinity war never even made it to Endgame. Other universes might not have been as lucky
Youre confusing multiverses with timelines. Our universe wasn't the only one who beat thanos. Our universes only way to defeat thanos was through the blip
@Mike O. there's not even just hints they straight up show his corpse with a sword through it in that flashback Professor X gives him
I also think that Dr. Strange needed to look into all futures that had BOTH:
- gotten to the exact point they were at on the planet
- somehow come back from that
In that regard, maybe there was only one path out. In the multi-verse, however, there were infinite ways for Thanos to have been foiled before they ended up where they were.
I loved the movie but I would like to see more of the other universes, spend a few minutes In some of them
Aaron: I havent' read any of the Scarlet Witch comics....🧐
You guys were really spitting with this one. I don’t really understand how people say that too high of expectations are the reasons that others don’t enjoy it. Like it’s a cool ass premise, especially coming off of Everything, Everywhere, all at once and seeing what they did with it. To only see 2 other Dr. Stranges and not really even dive that deep into the psyche of his failure and arrogance that he’s told about really let me underwhelmed
I either wanted a fully dr strange focused movie or a movie addressing all the multiverse events that have happened since the tv shows and connecting the dots. Wandavision's end credits hinted multiverse, but the entire Loki s1 was about the multiverse, yet there was no direct relation with this movie. I came out feeling that I've watched 'wanda and the multiverse of madness' with no conclusion regarding what happened to her at the end.
this was fricken BEST movie I ever watched
the editing was a bit meeh , there were too many cuts between scenes , and some really unecessary jump scares , goofy-ish , and i agree with the thing abt america , they shiwed she first discoverd her powers at like 6 7 yo , and the movie she was like 14 15 , all this time she xouldnt figure it somethung abt her powers , it was lazy writing
YES!!!!! Was waiting for this🤩🤩🤩🤩
Good talk
Really disappointed in the scarlet witches main purpose in this movie. I get that she wants to be with her kids but why not make her own in her own universe? Also the reason she wanted to kill America was to take her powers and travel universes to find medicine if her kids get sick? Like she needed to kill an innocent kid and hundreds of others just to get Advil from other multi verses? Like what
For me the only real disappointment was that America Chavez didn't have any arch or development to speak of. Her controlling her powers via a pep talk was too easy and didn't feel like real development. Also the complete lack of payoff on her backstory and the fact it felt like a thing that happened to her more than something that's defining her. Otherwise I really enjoyed it, and Rami did a great job
My problem is...wanda Is a villain now. Not a hero who went a little dark like Hawkeye..she did sbsolute evil..murdering a lot of innocent..and good people across multiple universes. You cant just slot her back in and everyones ok with her...and that's what theyll do. Pretend everything is cool and noone has a problem with a person who slaughtered innocents to get what she wants...she was even going to kill her alternate self..and a child. And theres no way to write her back in without people like captain marvel thor etc wanting to destroy her
Probably the only Raimi movie I've ever liked. lol
Movie was mid . Nothing special about it .one of the worst movies I've watched so far this year .
Only Villain was the dude that roasted him at the wedding
So dreamwalking. Freddy in the mcu? Yes please, haha. Nightmare on Disney blvd 😄
WE DON'T NEED WEIRD WE NEED MORE COMPLEX PLOT
I liked it a lot, y'all have way too many expectations. A movie isn't bad just because you prefer they go a different route in any given moment.
I do wonder what the movie looked like before “80% of it was reshot”
Why the reshoots?
I’ll watch anything Scarlet witch shows up in Elizabeth Olsen been acting her ass off as the character
Fucking loved this movie.
Im at a state where any complements this movie gets, feels like and excuse for how bad it was.
I overall liked the movie but I definitely had a few concerns with the writing. The chemistry between Strange and Chavez was unnatural. In just few minutes he started behaving like she’s his daughter. Not to forget the almost non existent character development for Chavez. Even though Wanda was to be perceived as the “villain” here, I couldn’t help but root for her because I can connect to her story on so many levels. And the cliched ending where after a few motivational words Chavez gains the control for her power. It was just too predictable and lacks logic imo. But, there were definitely bits I absolutely loved in this movie. The overall dark horror vibes and the cgi was top notch. I knew there’s a lot of fuss going around with the cameos but it was never promised and people are just ruining their own cup of tea by making too much expectations. The baseless rumours were definitely pushed by the fans on social media eventually leading for the disappointment. It was not a problem for me at all and I was actually amazed by the revelation about Wanda being too op for the Illuminati. Overall, I’d rate it 8/10 considering the room for improvement.
Wanda became a literal monster with the flip of a switch... Far worse than the girl conciously usong her powers. In wandavision what shes doing is sibvoncious and she feels horrible for it when she realises it. Then here..she chooses absolute evil
@@cdreid9999 Wanda's evil nature was explained by her possession of the Darkhold which corrupted her.
doctor strange 1 was miles better then this one. But i think docotr strange 1 is one of the best mcu movies so :)
Seeing it third time today IMAX3D
I found the guitar rifts jarring. I thought Clea’s outfit and make up made her look like a pantomime villain on crack.
I watched this movie and was lost. Like every MCU film. Would be great if you could bring out a guide to all the movies, where to start, what sequence to watch, little 10 minutes 'what you should have noticed' vids after each... you could do a series with a film each week... I'd follow that !
Please God no, please don't create the New Avengers. It would be the woke bullet to put this zombie franchise called Marvel phase 4.
Any movie that's introduced a legacy character so far has done them pretty well, Spiderverse being the big standout. Don't have much hope for Ms Marvel though, and I really wish that everyone's collective memory of RhiRhi Williams would just be wiped and she'd never get brought up by anyone ever again.
I thought it was fine but underwhelming and I’m not sure how anyone could love it
Because it’s the first marvel movie that felt like a directors vision and not a studio assembling line movie, IMO
It’s not perfect, but it easily has some of the best moments/sequences in the MCU and was one of the most daring. Plus it wasn’t scared to be violent which was a nice change.
For some reason seeing someone get stabbed with a clean blade takes me out of a movie, more so than something outlandish such as a talking tree or raccoon lol.
@@francjameso totally disagree. Outside of a few scenes it felt like generic MCU content
@@nicklannister2063 Totally disagree, thought it was good.
@@nicklannister2063 felt like a Sam Ramai movie first imo before a MCU movie. And this is the only MCU where that felt like the case IMO. Taika Waiti’s Ragnorak is pretty close though or James Gunns GoTG. Though Doctor Strange legit felt like other movies the director has made in the past.
It’s all subjective, but I stand by my opinion.
@@quintus920 to each their own. I’m just getting tired of cookie cutter marvel
I love that "not very offensive" is the best praise this dogshit film has garnered. Really tells you a lot about the state of the current MCU
Where the f.. was shang chi?
M-she-U / “the message”
Stop watching too much critical drinker. It'll make you dumb .
Yo
Shout out to Marissa. Yes Wanda already done turned villianese...in Wandavision. Conversely, all the folks with *a problem* how "they did" Wanda dirty... i missed where Chaos Magic was incorporated into a strategy of 3rd wave feminism. She's a witch! NOT a midwife, horribly burned at the stake by the evil madness of true historical patriarchy. There may, (there are) "good" witch stories to be told..but that's not Wanda's story. The real issue here is how Wandavision got to precede this movie, for a dozen different reasons. Having Wanda turn villianese is so convoluted..because.. she created..by Chaos Magic...her children...and they don't exist in the 616...but they're real ( 😳) in other multiverses and to their real ( 😳) mothers in those mulitverses? And real ( 😳 ) because they have to exist somewhere in order to ready for when...New Avengers, Assemble!
Doctor Strange 2 was having Steph Klay Draymond a fully loaded 73-9 team n losing a 3-1 lead n the Finals...
Damn Thts a way too put it I haven’t seen the movie but now idk if I should😭
@@littledawg5417 Nahh definitely go see it I still enjoyed it lol, just a missed opportunity
@@littledawg5417 I quite enjoyed it. Just don’t go in expecting like infinity war or some shit and you’ll be fine
Yeah, another hot take from the Hater no credit to Lebron multiverse..lol
I really did not like all the call backs to non marvel horror films. Like did we let Grandpa direct this and let him have his last hoorah! It was a total bore.
Sam Raimi is a horror icon put some respect on his name
You guys sound like shills. This movie was trash. Speak what you actually think