Just in case you guys thought the huge shields weren't enough, Gyro Ball + heals you for 30% of the shield when it expires. Also check how little damage Cris took, that means the enemies have been mostly hitting shields the entire game.
@@migu6528 youtube comment section is so good if i would commented something like this on Instagram some stupid people would have supported me rather than telling me to relax 😂
Metagross went from gross to meta real quick. Would prefer to see some nerfs to the dmg honestly, coz he should feel like scizor; lots of shields, high brawl potential, tanky, and small heals. A lil nerf to the dmg will make it very balanced.
Little damage nerf and unite buff would be perfect. Unite move should be unstoppable and always spawn a wall, so that it is at least a little bit more consistent in what it's doing.
My first experience with Metagross (which was today, funnily enough) used muscle band, attack weight, and resonant guard. Might try it with policy in the future
For me usually if the pokemon not depending on crit dmg, i always use Weakness Policy + Attack Weight to stack Atk stat. I rarely use muscle band on any dmg dealer pokemon
A funny change to gyro ball to counter junglers would be slows increase the damage of the move by the percent of the slow (making it more true to the games)
Any glaceon player torture is a win in my book ALSO 15:53 WHAT WAS THAT UNITE CHARGE RATE?? The charge on kill triggered 4 times because he was already dead??
Remember, this pokemon still might as well not have a unite move, and its passive is near useless. These are the only reasons i don't think it's completely overtuned
This move combo needs a nerf for sure once you land from magnet rise with out using it it’s on a 2 second cooldown with blue buff mid to late game gyro ball damage is good for scaling but the combo cooldown is the main concern
I feel like Metagross is a better version of ttar now. Would love to see a ttar buff soon. Ttar does seem like a metagross counter though with true damage. Thoughts?
@@AdmiralEmberDragonTyranitar counter him really bad, cuz beneath that thick shield Metagross is actually quite squishy, Tyranitar just ignore the shield altogether. The problem is how to evolve quickly enough before Metagross wreck your entire team
Man i was having so much fun playing this game until this patch. Now im up against metagross comfey, mystical fird sylveon and wigglytuff every game and its so cringe🤧 Absolute L to this patch
I was the Zeraora in the first game. I don't even saw it was you Cris. I was tilted in this game. The metagross diff was real and now I know why. But gg 😊 (yes I ff cause even if we get the ray that was over and I was soloqueue) Edit:the plan as 4:44 was to take my buff but you're was already here. I just try to take it and run but... 😢
Glad my boy is putting in work. Loved him since i was a kid. Always had this fond memory of my brother giving me a beldum in soul silver and running around with him. Walking with my pokemon was so cool to me back then and see a metagross alongside Lance's dragonite during the lake of rage segment always made me hype. I do think he may be in need of a further buff to his unite but his kit is undoubtedly strong rn, enough to make me think hes on a buzz/blaziken tier. The damage on gyro ball probably needs some reductions but its also nice to have a mon that dogwalks on dragapults lol. Hes no zacian or pre nerf intelion though that's for sure. Powerful, very strong even but not as oppressive as even pre patch mimikyu
@@LilAvogadro it's ok, I know pokemon is catered towards children so you haven't developed much comprehension yet. Just carry on playing cinder and waiting in bushes all match buddy
@@renutus1580this pokemon requires no skill deals insane damage gets defender shields and can lane everywhere this thing is almost bad as zacian and its blazi/buzz tier?
@newdish8775 nowhere near as bad as zacian lmfao. There's no doubt he's incredibly strong right now but he's not as powerful as pre patch mimikyu who was untouchable, nuked you down and had absurd sustain. And pre patch mimikyu was STILL not on the same tier as the Ex mons. But yall are so quick to cry the moment a mon is meta hence why tyranitar never recovered from his nerfs lol. And buzzwole is absolutely on his tier tf? Have you never been permanently cced to death? The moment buzz catches you, unless you're a defender or bulky all arounder, you die. Straight up. And once again, still not on par with the ex mons. Furthermore yes....90% of the mons in this game require no skill. Not sure why you guys keep thinking there's so many mons that require a massive brain when at best there's like 5 or 6. And majority of them aren't top tier lol
I thought I was going slightly mad when I ran into the invisible wall, it's why I started spamming side to side. Almost got me kod so best I could do was throw a puff at you so i could heal incase I went down due to the bug lol (also i was hesitating because i wasnt trying to dive, i was trying to get behind everyone to guide them out as i could tank the hits and get everyone out alive but the wiggly and sylveon were out for blood lol). Since this match 99% metagross I've seen have had 30-40k damage, feels bad lol.
THIS is how Metagross should be! An overwhelming force if left unchecked, just like in the games. Although I'll be honest this is kinda OP but Cris makes anything look OP 😂
I use Weight/Weakness/Float Stone for this build. The speed is just too much to ignore and maybe I could try Charging Charm instead of Float and X Speed instead of Eject. The possibilities are endless. Its just too easy to not die and get KOs tbh. I love this build but time will tell how powerful Gyro Ball will be.
Gyro Ball definitely over-buffed. Along with +1 second CD and -10% damage, a good change to Gyro Ball might be making the shield only work vs Atk damage, sort of like a reverse Assault Vest - as is the shield against multiple opponents is just too strong. It needs to have at least some counter play - making it susceptible to Sp Atk damage could help balance it a bit.
@@asch3736 don't play him like a speedster, just secure with dark pulse, interrupt fights and stand your ground on objectives, you farce them to take fights. Smh doesn't know how about llaoi
Why did Gyroball get a damage increase? It's supposed to be the defensive option... Even if on average it still deals less damage than Meteor Mash, that fact is made irrelevant because it's cooldown is half the time and it gets the same CDR from boosted auto. That means you can activate 2 or 3 Gyroball in the time it takes to activate one Meteor Mash. This needs to be patched now. Ball either needs a longer cooldown or lower damage.
Earlier today I was using magnet rise/gyro ball and thinking to myself I’m gonna get roasted for this set but it feels too good lol the I see Chris do the very combo of chasing people in magnet rise using gyro ball before the magnet rise slam cc hit them hitting them with the cc for the end combo🎉🎉🎉
As a Blaziken main i cant play the game , there's Metagross in every game and i cant damage him at all ..... All i can do is overheat and run , he gets thick shields every 2-3 sec and it even heals BRUHH
@@renutus1580 wdym lol Aeiglash is a good match up against Metagross , when ur team is around u can stun, disabled and take him down without letting him get the shield , Aeigislash's max HP damage , healing in Shield form are all decent against Metagross
Se você tiver pingente de recarga, acho que o dano explosivo vai ser imoral, mas você vai ficar bem menos tank Mas você também não precisa tankar nada se todos eles estiverem mortos né kkkkk
I think unite should recreate the metagross unite and when we use it four legs of meta come in front and gives a huge dash to the opposing pokemon and creating the walls around them 😅
Yay. More incompetence from Timi. With the amount of money they make, surely it's not asking too much for them to just test things adequately so that we don't have to deal with such obviously broken bs like this?
do you think Metagross is too OP now?
Can I buy now
I think that the gyro ball build got overtuned but I’m worried that it might get the water bear treatment
Nah I think he’s good but not broken. Metagross virtually has no passive and the unite is still meh.
yes , multiple 150k+ dmg matches. Feels like release Tyranitar now.
It's not "too" op , it's just op
Just in case you guys thought the huge shields weren't enough, Gyro Ball + heals you for 30% of the shield when it expires. Also check how little damage Cris took, that means the enemies have been mostly hitting shields the entire game.
Apparantly we can read the discription of abilities so we didn't think like that
@@trainyourbrain6321I haven't read it yet nor has everyone relax
@@trainyourbrain6321the in game descriptions don’t give all the info
@@migu6528 youtube comment section is so good if i would commented something like this on Instagram some stupid people would have supported me rather than telling me to relax 😂
@@trainyourbrain6321acting like a dick over Pokémon Unite. Get a life…
The amount of shield gains on metagross makes me question why it isn't a defender
Facts
Atleast it's not tanky with those shields, if it was. I would have been release Lapras level broken lmao.
This so called defender can 1v4😀
add guard to it. So much fun
@@SentientChezburgerLapras could do it....
metagross went from non existing thing to meta real quick😂💀
So in other words, from gross to meta. 🧐
@@Merz0rnah its meta and its gross
@@newdish8775relax bro its always like this, he's just strong so people will buy him, he'll get fixed later
its actually cute that they made him op when he became purchasable by coins
They definetly overbuffed gyro ball's damage as it's supposed to be the more defensive oriented move for Metagross.
Gyro ball didn't really need a damage buff. The cool down and shield buffs did the job.
Metagross went from gross to meta real quick. Would prefer to see some nerfs to the dmg honestly, coz he should feel like scizor; lots of shields, high brawl potential, tanky, and small heals. A lil nerf to the dmg will make it very balanced.
Nerf the gyro ball set at least. Meteor mash is supposed to be somewhat powerful
Little damage nerf and unite buff would be perfect.
Unite move should be unstoppable and always spawn a wall, so that it is at least a little bit more consistent in what it's doing.
@@wogna96no
@@wogna96nice bait
My first experience with Metagross (which was today, funnily enough) used muscle band, attack weight, and resonant guard. Might try it with policy in the future
It smacks literally
policy seems like a perfect fit since all of it's shield scales off its physical attack
For me usually if the pokemon not depending on crit dmg, i always use Weakness Policy + Attack Weight to stack Atk stat. I rarely use muscle band on any dmg dealer pokemon
Gyro ball buff is honestly too much but I still love meteor mash more.
"the goal getter"😂😂 1:13
A funny change to gyro ball to counter junglers would be slows increase the damage of the move by the percent of the slow (making it more true to the games)
Thats a cleverand neat change
oh my god. and then one of those solo ults on the glaceon gave him 30% ult back after it killing. its insane
When you finish an enemy with the unite move, you instantly gain 30% charge back
Love how Timi always just punches in a number and go “looks balanced I think”
Feel like metafross just a better aegislash now especially since he gets hp back per hit and does ridiculously more damage
its now like a tyranitar but with good early and faster movement speed
Any glaceon player torture is a win in my book
ALSO 15:53 WHAT WAS THAT UNITE CHARGE RATE?? The charge on kill triggered 4 times because he was already dead??
I was wondering this too. Like went from using unite to 90% instantly.
it's such a cool pokemon, and prob. my fave design.
i'm glad it finally gets it moment to shine now
The fact that he was at full health for most the game too
Played against Metagross + Comfy. No joke, they got 260k damage... And still lost because we ripped Ray 😂
Remember, this pokemon still might as well not have a unite move, and its passive is near useless. These are the only reasons i don't think it's completely overtuned
This move combo needs a nerf for sure once you land from magnet rise with out using it it’s on a 2 second cooldown with blue buff mid to late game gyro ball damage is good for scaling but the combo cooldown is the main concern
I feel like Metagross is a better version of ttar now. Would love to see a ttar buff soon. Ttar does seem like a metagross counter though with true damage. Thoughts?
Oh yea tyranitar is gonna be the counter to metagross no shields can help there
Interesting 🤔
@@AdmiralEmberDragonTyranitar counter him really bad, cuz beneath that thick shield Metagross is actually quite squishy, Tyranitar just ignore the shield altogether. The problem is how to evolve quickly enough before Metagross wreck your entire team
I think the wall thing is happening with all walls in game i.e crustle wall and other removable barriers
Man i was having so much fun playing this game until this patch. Now im up against metagross comfey, mystical fird sylveon and wigglytuff every game and its so cringe🤧
Absolute L to this patch
I was the Zeraora in the first game.
I don't even saw it was you Cris.
I was tilted in this game.
The metagross diff was real and now I know why.
But gg 😊 (yes I ff cause even if we get the ray that was over and I was soloqueue)
Edit:the plan as 4:44 was to take my buff but you're was already here.
I just try to take it and run but... 😢
man I was considering playing the game again but it's clear the devs don't care about healthy meta
Glad my boy is putting in work. Loved him since i was a kid. Always had this fond memory of my brother giving me a beldum in soul silver and running around with him. Walking with my pokemon was so cool to me back then and see a metagross alongside Lance's dragonite during the lake of rage segment always made me hype. I do think he may be in need of a further buff to his unite but his kit is undoubtedly strong rn, enough to make me think hes on a buzz/blaziken tier. The damage on gyro ball probably needs some reductions but its also nice to have a mon that dogwalks on dragapults lol. Hes no zacian or pre nerf intelion though that's for sure. Powerful, very strong even but not as oppressive as even pre patch mimikyu
what is bro yapping so much
@@LilAvogadro it's ok, I know pokemon is catered towards children so you haven't developed much comprehension yet. Just carry on playing cinder and waiting in bushes all match buddy
@@renutus1580this pokemon requires no skill deals insane damage gets defender shields and can lane everywhere this thing is almost bad as zacian and its blazi/buzz tier?
@newdish8775 nowhere near as bad as zacian lmfao. There's no doubt he's incredibly strong right now but he's not as powerful as pre patch mimikyu who was untouchable, nuked you down and had absurd sustain. And pre patch mimikyu was STILL not on the same tier as the Ex mons. But yall are so quick to cry the moment a mon is meta hence why tyranitar never recovered from his nerfs lol. And buzzwole is absolutely on his tier tf? Have you never been permanently cced to death? The moment buzz catches you, unless you're a defender or bulky all arounder, you die. Straight up. And once again, still not on par with the ex mons. Furthermore yes....90% of the mons in this game require no skill. Not sure why you guys keep thinking there's so many mons that require a massive brain when at best there's like 5 or 6. And majority of them aren't top tier lol
@@renutus1580have ever encountered metagross while using other pokemon
I thought I was going slightly mad when I ran into the invisible wall, it's why I started spamming side to side. Almost got me kod so best I could do was throw a puff at you so i could heal incase I went down due to the bug lol (also i was hesitating because i wasnt trying to dive, i was trying to get behind everyone to guide them out as i could tank the hits and get everyone out alive but the wiggly and sylveon were out for blood lol). Since this match 99% metagross I've seen have had 30-40k damage, feels bad lol.
THIS is how Metagross should be! An overwhelming force if left unchecked, just like in the games.
Although I'll be honest this is kinda OP but Cris makes anything look OP 😂
Is this the second coming of Mimikyu?
I use Weight/Weakness/Float Stone for this build. The speed is just too much to ignore and maybe I could try Charging Charm instead of Float and X Speed instead of Eject. The possibilities are endless. Its just too easy to not die and get KOs tbh. I love this build but time will tell how powerful Gyro Ball will be.
I use weakness stone and razor and go in the jungle, you’re like a jet plane once you have magnet
The invisible wall by the great CrisHeroes
Buffed Metagross is reminding me of Day 1 Tsareena.
They made it just another statchecker mon
Gyro Ball definitely over-buffed.
Along with +1 second CD and -10% damage, a good change to Gyro Ball might be making the shield only work vs Atk damage, sort of like a reverse Assault Vest - as is the shield against multiple opponents is just too strong.
It needs to have at least some counter play - making it susceptible to Sp Atk damage could help balance it a bit.
Really sad that they overbuffed it. I wanted to play this moveset since it released, but it was too bad before and now is Zacian levels of cringe.
TIMI has no idea on how to balance pokemon. Metagross is too op now.
Since everyone is playing resonate guard and metagross its probably the best time to play the best sheild counter in the game, tyranitar.
Goodluck trying to not be kited and cc-ed, hell good luck trying to evolve to ttar first before good meta player controling the map 😂
@@asch3736 don't play him like a speedster, just secure with dark pulse, interrupt fights and stand your ground on objectives, you farce them to take fights. Smh doesn't know how about llaoi
@@knowvoid9958ah yes if it was that simple ttar would've already been top tier
Yesterday an hour after watching this I witnessed a comfey on gyro ball metagross
You treated that glaceon like he was wearing a rowlett outfit
While I dont think it might matters, cris was always around 3 levels ahead of everyone which might kinda help him look better
True, but he was able to reach that because he was so powerful as well
@@Corvothing24 well yeah but the team never recalled farmed they just jumped back into the fight and fed him
@@HexManiac536people tend to ignore context and the fact that cris legit is better then 90% of people he's up against
@@renutus1580 real
ever since my mom said that you wistle a lot while speaking she told me to put headphones of cuz she said its driving her crazy lol
Metagross just goes BALLS TO THE WALL
Always loved Gyro Ball with Resonant Guard and now it’s even crazier
Metagross is now a floating beyblade
Spinning Crab Meta
Is the Meta
For you and me
Ah yes, I had missed surge shifu for just 1 patch and look who's back
They have real bad touch with balances. They either butcher or make something too op.
I already knew what was coming when i first saw how fucking long was the list of metagross buffs. . .
I just got a match yesterday with metagross and wigglytuff in lane.. i dont have to say much more
Why did Gyroball get a damage increase? It's supposed to be the defensive option...
Even if on average it still deals less damage than Meteor Mash, that fact is made irrelevant because it's cooldown is half the time and it gets the same CDR from boosted auto.
That means you can activate 2 or 3 Gyroball in the time it takes to activate one Meteor Mash.
This needs to be patched now. Ball either needs a longer cooldown or lower damage.
Cris Double stack Weakness or Muscle Band , Guard , Weakness .
I want too run tankly brawler .
Poor Glacey got melted everytime she sees Chris
We were telling people not to buy Metagross. Timi saw that it wasn’t selling so they made it OP. Now we will buy it.
There is a bug on the wall. And I don't think u should be able to escape the wall with blastois surf but you can
The meta is indeed gross now.
And so begins Metagross' reign of terror.
I think add 1 second to the cooldown and nerf the attack scaling from 250 - 200 and see what that does.
It works better with weights or guard?
Timi can’t catch a break man 😂 went from the community complaining about Metabad to Metaboi in 24 hours time 😂
Not our fault if their balance testing team is composed by lol players stuck in iron.
I miss the “Developers messed up” thumbnail 😂
That was a bug when a metagross evolved at level 9 without last hitting any thing?
Yeah you heard it I told you earlier 👍
op with a good support like clefable its not just op its quite toxic
Just supported a Metagross with Blissey while we both had resonant guard ewe
I thought I was the only one struggling on the invisible walls
Lore accurate Metagross kek
Jesus christ.. 4 sec cd and that shield tho.. That shield is a game changer.
Now metagross is meta, not gross anymore. Great game
I played against a metagross, it was a 4vs1 and he still never died☠️ took like 15000 damage and ran away,
I don’t care. Nothing will be as painful as the Mime buffs back in the day.
Exactly. It can 1v4 yes but mime could 1v5 all day without having to reset without a comfey like that thing was just on another level
I just tried and yes giro is far superior specially necause of the lower cd
Earlier today I was using magnet rise/gyro ball and thinking to myself I’m gonna get roasted for this set but it feels too good lol the I see Chris do the very combo of chasing people in magnet rise using gyro ball before the magnet rise slam cc hit them hitting them with the cc for the end combo🎉🎉🎉
If it weren't for metagross gyro ball over buff we would have at this moment one of the most balanced metas (not perfect) in the history of the game
Shields?
Tyranitar: 🥵
Lower gyro's ball dmg and give it +1sec cd
As a Blaziken main i cant play the game , there's Metagross in every game and i cant damage him at all ..... All i can do is overheat and run , he gets thick shields every 2-3 sec and it even heals BRUHH
Ard well you're just bad then cause I've dominated him as aegis lol
@@renutus1580 wdym lol Aeiglash is a good match up against Metagross , when ur team is around u can stun, disabled and take him down without letting him get the shield , Aeigislash's max HP damage , healing in Shield form are all decent against Metagross
@@renutus1580@SteelTypeFan don't get me wrong lol even I have loved Metagross since I was a kid, it's just that gyro ball is overturned
Metagross is fresh to me.
No more Defender Unite, it’s killing all of them.
"Glaceon isnt having much fun"
good
Now add a Comfey, yeah...
Bro, I can't believe in this update that Metagross is buffed, but Lapras is nerfed
What? Laparas was busted and metagross suck
@@fortnitehero3579lapras was pretty balanced and meta-gross gets overbuffed
Ah yes finally we got meta-gross
what a great time to take yet another extended break from the game lmao
Feels like stomp tsareena lol
try using resonant guard, attack weight, and drain crown in metagross gyro ball, its so tanky and hurt at the same time😂
I approve this glaceon bullying.
Timi really can't buff a new pokemon without making them broken. draft soon
Não tenho política de fraqueza, posso substituir por qual item?
Se você tiver pingente de recarga, acho que o dano explosivo vai ser imoral, mas você vai ficar bem menos tank
Mas você também não precisa tankar nada se todos eles estiverem mortos né kkkkk
I wanna see damage with Full stacks, 6 brown emblem, Reggie steel buff + red buff, and Ray shield 😂
Even though gyro ball is better I find meteor mash way more fun and still pretty good
Clearly TIMI doesn't know how to properly balance characters without making them broken af
FINALLY VERY STRONG METAGROSS
Wait so is metagross good in lane now?
yes
I think unite should recreate the metagross unite and when we use it four legs of meta come in front and gives a huge dash to the opposing pokemon and creating the walls around them 😅
Are you 9?
@@renutus1580 wdym
Urshifu and Tyranitar stock are skyrocketing till next patch I see😅😅😅
Yay. More incompetence from Timi. With the amount of money they make, surely it's not asking too much for them to just test things adequately so that we don't have to deal with such obviously broken bs like this?
Oh look they over-buffed something
Meteor mash seem fine but Gyro ball is busted
Nice bro 👌
Absolutely bullying these people sheesh. Definitely not Meh-tagross anymore
Why does it reminds of CRUSTLE 😅... CRUSTLE 2.0