Ive been getting this done a few times in the last month and wow did it make a HUGE difference. I had debilitating pain where i could barely function doing everyday things. My physiotherapist suggested this and now i look forward to it. It brought me from a 9 out 10 in pain to a 2 out of 10
It really works , I had trigger points on my levator scapulae muscle which used to give me severe pain, and this needling technique cured my pain in minutes..
I tried 10 session of acupunture and it worked wonders. Not even any prescribed med could help me, but acupuncture did, even when I didn't think it would work. Since the 1srt session I felt better. Not sure if the needle helps to break the tensión down on the trigger points but it did work. Unfortunately, it's back after a few years, so now I am trying dry needling. Let's see how it works
After 2 years of shoulder and neck pain i finally feel better. It helped me with my fibromyalgia, allergies, and knots on my shoulders with just 2 sessions i was pain free. I did the 6 sessions. It worked for me
@@555Divine Thankyou so much for these points... Some of them I already know and some I'll definately do from now. Do you have anything more to add up to it coz what is more better than listening to it from an experienced person itself?
My PT just did this in my traps and in the little muscles at the base of my skull today for the first time. I think it's going to work well for me but I don't know that I should've sought this video out because the wiggling made me feel a little green lol.
@Kris Porter DPT. In my opinion as clinician, when holding a pincer grip while the needle is in situ and pointing in a cephalic direction you know that the needle is within the muscle belly of UTrap only. Therefore, if you let of the pincer grip go and the needle HAS NOT advanced any further, you know that no new tissue has being pierced. I hope that make sense.
@@RoccoTano91 yes I too feel ok about letting go once the needle has been inserted and if it is not pointed in a direction likely to move towards any lung tissue. Also, good to make sure the needle does not advance further - but the needle can suck in on its own over time, so I think making sure the direction of the needle is fully through muscle (inoftennpush through muscle until I can feel it on the other side, making me sure I’m only in muscles and not in danger of lung if it goes in further
For me the soreness was as if i did a workout for the first time. Achy muscles and a bit of a headache. My pain has been brought from a 9/10 to a 2/10. It might be temporary for others but it helped me a lot. But probably depending on your issue, i incorporated all the stretching my physiotherapist told me to do daily and i kept heat on my back evrtyday with a heat pad. It takes time but in october i could barely do anything. Now im feeling so much better. Took me over 2 months. Still working on it but it got better. Stretching is the key and consistency @dilettanter
Is there a reason I had a massive headache and some nausea after dry needling for the first time for extreme muscle tension (I'm in a wheelchair)? There were around 8 needles I think that were used. I can really see the benefits but it took three days for the headache to die down with opiates, aspirin, ibuprofen and paracetamol...
@@555Divine oh that’s possible! Needling can also cause low blood sugar which can cause some nausea and sweating too. But headache for a week I can see might be toxins, or perhaps altered blood flow to head (these tight muscles of neck can hinder blood flow so releasing them often helps headaches - but normally more like SCM or other muscles like scalenes )
Thepomafame of course you can leave the needle in the body. If anything I would say the needle depth is unnecessary. I would never insert a needle completely. And it's safer to bring the needle to surface before releasing your grip
Depending on your treatment approach, a local twitch response isn't always required. This is also a training video, so I'm not aiming to elicit the twitch response.
Nope. Acupuncture is based on chinese/meridians of the body Dry needling is anatomical based and requires accurate knowledge of each muscle. Maybe you mean they both use "Acupuncture" needles.
@@healhands5760 actually acupuncture also uses ashi points - which are often trigger points. So acupuncture is the larger circle that also encompasses dry needling. Talk to sports medicine acupuncturist - they use channel theory and organ issues along with trigger points etc, tight muscles, knowledge of weak or inhibited phasic muscles and tight tonic muscles etc
Dry Needling is one kind of acupuncture. It is just a new explanation of needle theory and just one kind of acupuncture technique, but not a new treatment. A horse is a horse no matter what color it is. You can’t say a white horse is not a horse just because its has different color. So does the dry needling. See a physical therapist using an Acupuncture Needle invasively pierce a patient’s body! No matter he base on what theory, no matter how he name it, but the true is he's preforming Acupuncture! It is violated the physical therapy non-invasive concept and practice scope! Every point of human body can be an acupuncture point. Meridian theory is just one of acupuncture theory, while dozens of theories support that every point of human body can be an acupuncture point, of course including all the trigger points. Acupuncturists are trained that can put needles almost everywhere of human body not only the meridian points! Also acupuncturist can put needles to different layer of human body: skin, muscle, tendon, ligament and bone! That’s why an acupuncturist training thousands hours of training (over 3000 hours are required at California). How many hours training does physical therapy have for using needle? lee than 100 hrs (mostly about 50hrs at weekend class)! So consumers know where shall they choose.
Physical Therapists have thousands of hours of training in the musculoskeletal system, its assessment and it's treatment. How much additional training should it take to place a needle into a muscle safely and efficaciously?
Kris Porter musculoskeletal knowledge/ training is different from the hands on technique. Tactile skill matter when it comes to the efficacy of the treatment.
Jia Yang fitnesstrainer here. i learned to drain mu own lymphenodes (my body, my descission). i learned to trigger and calibrate every muscle by using a site for triggerpoints. arent we all just mechanics? can a common mechanic perform gearbox surgery? no. no? offcourse he can learn that..on the job. can a therapist learn accupuncture in an afternoon? probably, but he wont be an expert. i change my own oil, i drain my own lymphes. i replace my own sparkplugs, i trigger every malfunctioning muscle (or viscera). i wax my car, i put ointment on my skin. i replace the airfilter, i brush my teeth. engine swap? doctor needed forr that. engine rebuild? surgeon needed. we re all doing the same: fixing a body that s malfunctioning. if you re done triggering and needling you pass em on to me, i put a serious weight onto a body and let nature do its job while observe for safety and effectivity
Kris Porter just one question about this: why not use a pen to irritate the skin and trigger the muscle that way? if you want to release the trigger (assuming that s the most common), why not comfort, warm and massage the trigger so it releases? i use 2 different tegniques on myself: left multifidus low back: fast, i want it to turn on. right: slow, i want it to release. my question is, why use a needle for this?
Kris Porter just one question about this: why not use a pen to irritate the skin and trigger the muscle that way? if you want to release the trigger (assuming that s the most common), why not comfort, warm and massage the trigger so it releases? i use 2 different tegniques on myself: left multifidus low back: fast, i want it to turn on. right: slow, i want it to release. my question is, why use a needle for this?
Roberto If you're speaking from experience, keep in mind that just because something doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. I've been in physical therapy for a couple of weeks now and have done a few dry needling sessions. To my surprise, my muscles are much less tight and I have a range of motion back that years of chronic pain took away from me. For some people, this is a life changer. It has been for me already.
Ive been getting this done a few times in the last month and wow did it make a HUGE difference. I had debilitating pain where i could barely function doing everyday things. My physiotherapist suggested this and now i look forward to it. It brought me from a 9 out 10 in pain to a 2 out of 10
It really works , I had trigger points on my levator scapulae muscle which used to give me severe pain, and this needling technique cured my pain in minutes..
Permanently?
@@ryanvernatter3537 Thats what im trying to find out. You learn anything new? To my knowledge it can be permanent but you need a bunch of treatments
I tried 10 session of acupunture and it worked wonders. Not even any prescribed med could help me, but acupuncture did, even when I didn't think it would work. Since the 1srt session I felt better. Not sure if the needle helps to break the tensión down on the trigger points but it did work. Unfortunately, it's back after a few years, so now I am trying dry needling. Let's see how it works
Thank you, my friend!!
Best regards.
Alexandre de Souza, from Brazil.
After 2 years of shoulder and neck pain i finally feel better. It helped me with my fibromyalgia, allergies, and knots on my shoulders with just 2 sessions i was pain free. I did the 6 sessions. It worked for me
Hi can you please tell how it helped with fibromyalgia, I have worst fibromyalgia past 9 months
@@555Divine Thankyou so much for these points... Some of them I already know and some I'll definately do from now. Do you have anything more to add up to it coz what is more better than listening to it from an experienced person itself?
@@555Divine Thanks a ton dear. You may delete this text but on Facebook pls tell me how to recognise which one is you ASAP :)
Hi I am facing same issues as you are can you please drop me your email or fb I'd need some support on fibro and neck pain since last 2 years
Did it work permanently or do you need more treatments forever?
My PT just did this in my traps and in the little muscles at the base of my skull today for the first time. I think it's going to work well for me but I don't know that I should've sought this video out because the wiggling made me feel a little green lol.
how you doing these days? Did it work?
I was trained not to let go of the trap when in that region, too close to the lung field and no bony backdrop. What is your rationale?
How do you mean? Of course he needs to let go of the trap, as he needs to do the other needling spots
I was also instructed to maintain a grip on the trap while the needle is inserted into the tissue to reduce the risk of pneumothorax.
Yeah I had this done and my PT made it very clear she couldn’t let go while the needle was in because it was too close.
@Kris Porter DPT. In my opinion as clinician, when holding a pincer grip while the needle is in situ and pointing in a cephalic direction you know that the needle is within the muscle belly of UTrap only. Therefore, if you let of the pincer grip go and the needle HAS NOT advanced any further, you know that no new tissue has being pierced. I hope that make sense.
@@RoccoTano91 yes I too feel ok about letting go once the needle has been inserted and if it is not pointed in a direction likely to move towards any lung tissue. Also, good to make sure the needle does not advance further - but the needle can suck in on its own over time, so I think making sure the direction of the needle is fully through muscle (inoftennpush through muscle until I can feel it on the other side, making me sure I’m only in muscles and not in danger of lung if it goes in further
How can i install this book?myofascial pain
Superb👍
Hurts like a bitch and leaves you SO FREAKING SORE but does loosen you up
Temporarily
Oh no!!!! How long does it last? (the temporary loosening ? And the soreness too
For me the soreness was as if i did a workout for the first time. Achy muscles and a bit of a headache. My pain has been brought from a 9/10 to a 2/10. It might be temporary for others but it helped me a lot. But probably depending on your issue, i incorporated all the stretching my physiotherapist told me to do daily and i kept heat on my back evrtyday with a heat pad. It takes time but in october i could barely do anything. Now im feeling so much better. Took me over 2 months. Still working on it but it got better. Stretching is the key and consistency @dilettanter
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Is there a reason I had a massive headache and some nausea after dry needling for the first time for extreme muscle tension (I'm in a wheelchair)? There were around 8 needles I think that were used. I can really see the benefits but it took three days for the headache to die down with opiates, aspirin, ibuprofen and paracetamol...
Its normal.. i've had headache for a week.. You have to drink alot of water.. Its because of the release of toxins that has build up..
@@555Divine oh that’s possible! Needling can also cause low blood sugar which can cause some nausea and sweating too. But headache for a week I can see might be toxins, or perhaps altered blood flow to head (these tight muscles of neck can hinder blood flow so releasing them often helps headaches - but normally more like SCM or other muscles like scalenes )
Скажите пожалуйста, Вы не знаете кто из Российских врачей этим занимается?
The way you do the technique is really dangerous, you cannot leave the need inside the body.
Thepomafame of course you can leave the needle in the body. If anything I would say the needle depth is unnecessary. I would never insert a needle completely. And it's safer to bring the needle to surface before releasing your grip
I see no twitching...?
Depending on your treatment approach, a local twitch response isn't always required. This is also a training video, so I'm not aiming to elicit the twitch response.
What means twitching?
@@buragggg1 when the muscle actually twitches (or quickly and lightly and only once spasms in that band as it releases
Dry needling is a Acupuncture.
I love acupuncture and I am proud to be a qualified Acupuncturist.
Nope.
Acupuncture is based on chinese/meridians of the body
Dry needling is anatomical based and requires accurate knowledge of each muscle.
Maybe you mean they both use "Acupuncture" needles.
@@healhands5760 actually acupuncture also uses ashi points - which are often trigger points. So acupuncture is the larger circle that also encompasses dry needling. Talk to sports medicine acupuncturist - they use channel theory and organ issues along with trigger points etc, tight muscles, knowledge of weak or inhibited phasic muscles and tight tonic muscles etc
Dry Needling is one kind of acupuncture. It is just a new explanation of needle theory and just one kind of acupuncture technique, but not a new treatment. A horse is a horse no matter what color it is. You can’t say a white horse is not a horse just because its has different color. So does the dry needling. See a physical therapist using an Acupuncture Needle invasively pierce a patient’s body! No matter he base on what theory, no matter how he name it, but the true is he's preforming Acupuncture! It is violated the physical therapy non-invasive concept and practice scope!
Every point of human body can be an acupuncture point. Meridian theory is just one of acupuncture theory, while dozens of theories support that every point of human body can be an acupuncture point, of course including all the trigger points. Acupuncturists are trained that can put needles almost everywhere of human body not only the meridian points! Also acupuncturist can put needles to different layer of human body: skin, muscle, tendon, ligament and bone! That’s why an acupuncturist training thousands hours of training (over 3000 hours are required at California). How many hours training does physical therapy have for using needle? lee than 100 hrs (mostly about 50hrs at weekend class)! So consumers know where shall they choose.
Physical Therapists have thousands of hours of training in the musculoskeletal system, its assessment and it's treatment. How much additional training should it take to place a needle into a muscle safely and efficaciously?
Kris Porter musculoskeletal knowledge/ training is different from the hands on technique. Tactile skill matter when it comes to the efficacy of the treatment.
Jia Yang fitnesstrainer here. i learned to drain mu own lymphenodes (my body, my descission). i learned to trigger and calibrate every muscle by using a site for triggerpoints.
arent we all just mechanics? can a common mechanic perform gearbox surgery? no. no? offcourse he can learn that..on the job. can a therapist learn accupuncture in an afternoon? probably, but he wont be an expert.
i change my own oil, i drain my own lymphes. i replace my own sparkplugs, i trigger every malfunctioning muscle (or viscera). i wax my car, i put ointment on my skin. i replace the airfilter, i brush my teeth. engine swap? doctor needed forr that. engine rebuild? surgeon needed.
we re all doing the same: fixing a body that s malfunctioning. if you re done triggering and needling you pass em on to me, i put a serious weight onto a body and let nature do its job while observe for safety and effectivity
Kris Porter just one question about this: why not use a pen to irritate the skin and trigger the muscle that way? if you want to release the trigger (assuming that s the most common), why not comfort, warm and massage the trigger so it releases?
i use 2 different tegniques on myself: left multifidus low back: fast, i want it to turn on. right: slow, i want it to release.
my question is, why use a needle for this?
Kris Porter just one question about this: why not use a pen to irritate the skin and trigger the muscle that way? if you want to release the trigger (assuming that s the most common), why not comfort, warm and massage the trigger so it releases?
i use 2 different tegniques on myself: left multifidus low back: fast, i want it to turn on. right: slow, i want it to release.
my question is, why use a needle for this?
So if PTs are so safe, why are they the only ones causing pneumothorax or atelectasis?
Well I wish that were true! But perhaps they are more likely to? I don’t know
Slow pacing
This shit hurtttttttsssssss
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Put of you're watch next time, not really proffesional & Hygienic
It doesn't work, it just gonna make you feel soar for hours.
Roberto If you're speaking from experience, keep in mind that just because something doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.
I've been in physical therapy for a couple of weeks now and have done a few dry needling sessions. To my surprise, my muscles are much less tight and I have a range of motion back that years of chronic pain took away from me.
For some people, this is a life changer. It has been for me already.
It really works... It doesn't give you hours of soreness, my years of pain was reduced in minutes..
Amazing technique
It works wonders! Yet it does make you sore for a day