I was watching an earlier upload and he Joppa was talking about how he would be okay with mixed reviews on steam. Happy to see the positive reviews, and the growing player count on steam charts. Looking good. Hopefully we get a road map and some stuff for the future to look forward to.
Hey Joppa, just a suggestion(figured you may read these comments for the first day or so after uploads). The hotbars seem to be a big pain-point for *alot* of players, like every player I have talked to about it, myself included. I get why the bar is sectioned off as it is, to limit the number of abilities of a similar kind that you can have active at once. I think this could still be accomplished while also giving players the ability to set their bars up how they want. Basically using EQ's old method of Spellbook > Memory/Spell Gem Bar > Hotbar. So we can take our spells/abilities from the main spellbook, put them in the slots of our spell gem bar(which can be sectioned off to limit the number of each kind of spell/ability as needed), and from there we can put them in our Hotbar wherever we please, while also being able to use the Hotbar for chat commands/macros, swapping items like shields/torches, etc.
Please cripple the hell out of charm pets. It was so frustrating on TLPs to see Enchanter pets replacing group tanks and also pumping out higher dps than any actual player character.
Congratulations. You captured the magic that made EQ made so special. The gameplay is super addictive and it's incredibly immersive! The sounds are amazing. Try playing in 1st person mode and sit up close to the screen, light off in room. It's like jumping into a living breathing world. I was super skeptical of the graphics and animations but they grew on me quickly. This game is super fun plain and simple. Very impressed and happy with the direction this is going in. I have to say in some ways it surpasses EQ. You can see all the attention to detail put into this game. Can tell you are really passionate about this game. And it's challenging! It brings up a roller coaster of emotions.
Could you change the /stuck to the character starting zone and add a hearth to the bind stones. I had the issue of rendering under the binding stone and not being able to /stuck out of the floor. Thankful for the assistance from GM Sava
I was/am excited for Pantheon. Although I do appreciate the want to go back in time to relive the heyday of EQ, i feel that some of the systems that are in place to give that OLD SCHOOL feeling are a hinderance to the longevity of the game. One such system is that there are no quest markers or waypoints to quests or givers. I get that in 1999 that was a thing but nowadays, with time being so limited and people just are not spending 8+ hours a day playing mmos (if there is, it is a small subset of people not the majority), there needs to be a compromise where those who want or need the assistance to do questing, should be able to turn it on or off. Either as a setting in the game or a toggle during install. Hey, maybe even a skill that can be trained where quest givers offer options to guide a player if they need more assistance such as offering way makers, or whatever system makes sense. Most of us who are EQ fans, are 20 to 30 years older and do not have extra disposable time to spend extended play sessions in a game. Unless you know where you are going, a play session of finishing one quest due to being unable to find where you are going is no fun and will eventually cause people to just not play as they are not progressing in a satisfactory manner. I want this game to succeed but as a realist, you may capture those old school players for a time but you will need to get new players in or this game will not survive. I am not asking you guys to compromise the vision but it needs to be realistic as new money is what is going to drive the development in a niche game. Watching streamers and such getting frustrated looking for a quest mob, item, or quest giver has put me off from backing as I too would get frustrated trying to stumble upon a quest for progression other than just killing mobs.
I think the magic images need more visual and weapons should have more skills to them when you're leveling them up like staff hand to hand etc when leveling u unlock a skill
I never understood why people though EQ2 was 'off'. My first MMO characters were on EQ1 and loved EQ2 and still do. 2023 I again played a lot of EQ, recently EQ2 origins and was loving it before Pantheon EA started. I've enjoyed both games very much. Same for LotRO, Rift, GW2, classic WoW etc. I don't think there is a 'right' way to do MMOs, although I do agree that Vanguard was off, especially pvpers managing to get past guards into crafting areas al killing everyone. Been really enjoying Early Access so far.
Oh ya like I was telling others that's in the game early access you guys should add sub class es like wizard/warrior or ranger. Or pld/cleric etc can happen I'm a ff11 fan I never played EverQuest because I don't like PCs because they get hacked a lot so I wouldn't know much on tht game but I seen. Videos I still feel like ff11 was better when. I look at them both but who knows 😂😂
after playing the early access for about 40 hours, i estimate that the game is about 25% finished. for example, most of the classes are still in a state where they need a HUGE amount of work before being interesting to play over a long period of time, the summoner is a total bore to play right now, you just spam the 2 same spells over and over and over, the spells granting armor to the pets are an absolute joke, they have no reason to exist as you cast them only once and never again
lol.... "i just dont like it". thats cool, but if you make a game only the wa you like it, your the only subscriber to said game. people may hate box'ers, but box'ers hate being LFG all day, shitty PUG's with players with NFC how to play their role but still love th game and want to support it. Don't lose those players, they a bigger portion of your subscriber base than you giving htem credit for.
OOOOMMMMGawd, that's something I DO NOT miss from Everquesty, single small fights that take 3-5 minutes. Nopt only is it not realistic, it just wastes our time. Really I've been wathicng this game, but if this is an example of how long fights with peasants take, I'm gonna have to pass.
The game feels a lot like everquest, which is a good thing, but i agree there are way too many chevron mobs. I would like to have elite mobs for just bosses and mobs with exceptional loot, and just increase mob density like everquest did. And we need a lot more mob density for a lot of the zones, especially after 18+ while i love grouping, sometimes that isnt possible and soloing a chevron mob is out of the question and even if you can it takes 10 minutes. And there isnt enough mob supply for too maby people. Whisperwind asps are an example.
The average UFC fight takes 17 minutes. 3-5 is not realistic, but you seem to want even shorter fights? Are you running around the real world one shotting vagabonds?
@@redavni1 how many times do they break in a ufc fight to sit on a stool and drink? every 5 minutes you get a 1 minute break?How does your comparison stand up to fights on Pantheon?
random stats on gear is lazy loot system compared to static stats on items all over. It shows you guys have no time to do it correct just like EQ did. Just like you guys went back on Graphics, Letting the pledgers down again and again. Glad MnM is not doing the same errors like you guys are. just being honest, Brad sold me the dream, you guys pissed on his grave if you ask me. And no they did not make a game with a vision they are listening too much to community. Just wait and see.
I was watching an earlier upload and he Joppa was talking about how he would be okay with mixed reviews on steam. Happy to see the positive reviews, and the growing player count on steam charts. Looking good. Hopefully we get a road map and some stuff for the future to look forward to.
How many lead developers get online to talk to their playerbase multiple times a week? VR is one hell of a Team. Thanks Joppa.
Watch out your tongue is brown. Ewwww
Just played yesterday pretty much all day. Very good job so far man. You really got something here
Happy to see you guys are on track again. Been enjoying the game experience a lot during the previous week to holydays.
Awesome to hear :)
Just started playing and love the vibe of the game.
Hey Joppa, just a suggestion(figured you may read these comments for the first day or so after uploads). The hotbars seem to be a big pain-point for *alot* of players, like every player I have talked to about it, myself included. I get why the bar is sectioned off as it is, to limit the number of abilities of a similar kind that you can have active at once. I think this could still be accomplished while also giving players the ability to set their bars up how they want.
Basically using EQ's old method of Spellbook > Memory/Spell Gem Bar > Hotbar. So we can take our spells/abilities from the main spellbook, put them in the slots of our spell gem bar(which can be sectioned off to limit the number of each kind of spell/ability as needed), and from there we can put them in our Hotbar wherever we please, while also being able to use the Hotbar for chat commands/macros, swapping items like shields/torches, etc.
Appreciate the feedback on this!
I will agree that clicking Macros is teh sux
Please cripple the hell out of charm pets. It was so frustrating on TLPs to see Enchanter pets replacing group tanks and also pumping out higher dps than any actual player character.
Congratulations. You captured the magic that made EQ made so special. The gameplay is super addictive and it's incredibly immersive! The sounds are amazing. Try playing in 1st person mode and sit up close to the screen, light off in room. It's like jumping into a living breathing world. I was super skeptical of the graphics and animations but they grew on me quickly. This game is super fun plain and simple. Very impressed and happy with the direction this is going in. I have to say in some ways it surpasses EQ. You can see all the attention to detail put into this game. Can tell you are really passionate about this game. And it's challenging! It brings up a roller coaster of emotions.
any news on Druid and bard??
Very excited to try out druid. Hope it's soon!
Also PLEASE add "Group Loot" similar to WoW, which is basically round robin for trash, need-before-greed rolls on equippable items
Could you change the /stuck to the character starting zone and add a hearth to the bind stones. I had the issue of rendering under the binding stone and not being able to /stuck out of the floor. Thankful for the assistance from GM Sava
Vanguard also had a way to early release
Cant wait for enchater charm the class feels very empty without it.
Id love to see a road map
Mr. Joppa please reconsider the elite chevron monster system 😢
I was/am excited for Pantheon. Although I do appreciate the want to go back in time to relive the heyday of EQ, i feel that some of the systems that are in place to give that OLD SCHOOL feeling are a hinderance to the longevity of the game. One such system is that there are no quest markers or waypoints to quests or givers. I get that in 1999 that was a thing but nowadays, with time being so limited and people just are not spending 8+ hours a day playing mmos (if there is, it is a small subset of people not the majority), there needs to be a compromise where those who want or need the assistance to do questing, should be able to turn it on or off. Either as a setting in the game or a toggle during install. Hey, maybe even a skill that can be trained where quest givers offer options to guide a player if they need more assistance such as offering way makers, or whatever system makes sense. Most of us who are EQ fans, are 20 to 30 years older and do not have extra disposable time to spend extended play sessions in a game.
Unless you know where you are going, a play session of finishing one quest due to being unable to find where you are going is no fun and will eventually cause people to just not play as they are not progressing in a satisfactory manner.
I want this game to succeed but as a realist, you may capture those old school players for a time but you will need to get new players in or this game will not survive. I am not asking you guys to compromise the vision but it needs to be realistic as new money is what is going to drive the development in a niche game. Watching streamers and such getting frustrated looking for a quest mob, item, or quest giver has put me off from backing as I too would get frustrated trying to stumble upon a quest for progression other than just killing mobs.
Isn’t there a newer VOD? I can’t seem to find it.
I think the magic images need more visual and weapons should have more skills to them when you're leveling them up like staff hand to hand etc when leveling u unlock a skill
They will wipe before going live right?
Two wipes are planned.
Why a Mac computer tho...?
I never understood why people though EQ2 was 'off'. My first MMO characters were on EQ1 and loved EQ2 and still do. 2023 I again played a lot of EQ, recently EQ2 origins and was loving it before Pantheon EA started. I've enjoyed both games very much. Same for LotRO, Rift, GW2, classic WoW etc. I don't think there is a 'right' way to do MMOs, although I do agree that Vanguard was off, especially pvpers managing to get past guards into crafting areas al killing everyone. Been really enjoying Early Access so far.
Oh ya like I was telling others that's in the game early access you guys should add sub class es like wizard/warrior or ranger. Or pld/cleric etc can happen I'm a ff11 fan I never played EverQuest because I don't like PCs because they get hacked a lot so I wouldn't know much on tht game but I seen. Videos I still feel like ff11 was better when. I look at them both but who knows 😂😂
after playing the early access for about 40 hours, i estimate that the game is about 25% finished. for example, most of the classes are still in a state where they need a HUGE amount of work before being interesting to play over a long period of time, the summoner is a total bore to play right now, you just spam the 2 same spells over and over and over, the spells granting armor to the pets are an absolute joke, they have no reason to exist as you cast them only once and never again
Oh before I forget bring game to consoles most ppl play on consoles then PC so I'm sure u guys already know tht
fock of with your low IQ console newbie shiet. PC master class.
NO class teleports please. Tie travel into a tradeskill. Using ports to "balance" a class does not work.
IMO Vanguard was the best MMO made until Sony (?) bought it and screwed it up....
lol.... "i just dont like it". thats cool, but if you make a game only the wa you like it, your the only subscriber to said game. people may hate box'ers, but box'ers hate being LFG all day, shitty PUG's with players with NFC how to play their role but still love th game and want to support it. Don't lose those players, they a bigger portion of your subscriber base than you giving htem credit for.
yeah they never get that I so much agree with you. Boxing people pays way more subs per person. So they actually support the game way more.
OOOOMMMMGawd, that's something I DO NOT miss from Everquesty, single small fights that take 3-5 minutes. Nopt only is it not realistic, it just wastes our time. Really I've been wathicng this game, but if this is an example of how long fights with peasants take, I'm gonna have to pass.
The game feels a lot like everquest, which is a good thing, but i agree there are way too many chevron mobs. I would like to have elite mobs for just bosses and mobs with exceptional loot, and just increase mob density like everquest did. And we need a lot more mob density for a lot of the zones, especially after 18+ while i love grouping, sometimes that isnt possible and soloing a chevron mob is out of the question and even if you can it takes 10 minutes. And there isnt enough mob supply for too maby people. Whisperwind asps are an example.
The average UFC fight takes 17 minutes. 3-5 is not realistic, but you seem to want even shorter fights? Are you running around the real world one shotting vagabonds?
go play wow that's a game for you.
@@redavni1 how many times do they break in a ufc fight to sit on a stool and drink? every 5 minutes you get a 1 minute break?How does your comparison stand up to fights on Pantheon?
@RAimotion I do some, it feels too fast, especially on special servers and filled with idiot players. Need something in between.
Yes start by making macros able to be bound to a key and dragged to the hotkeys in the UI. Would be a good thing to get done for gameplay.
random stats on gear is lazy loot system compared to static stats on items all over. It shows you guys have no time to do it correct just like EQ did. Just like you guys went back on Graphics, Letting the pledgers down again and again. Glad MnM is not doing the same errors like you guys are. just being honest, Brad sold me the dream, you guys pissed on his grave if you ask me. And no they did not make a game with a vision they are listening too much to community. Just wait and see.
Any news on druid?