Before they hit the Auction Block the multi-fuel element had been removed. They run on Strictly diesel. I've got over a million miles in the Duce.5. & the M-51 5 ton dump trucks. The turbos's & gas / diesel mix did blow a great blue flame out the stack....Bad part of those old trucks, they were top-heavy and dangerous. On bad road at any speed.
@@rogermarshall8991 what makes them multi fuel is the engine design. The fuel density compensator only responds to fuel viscosity and adjusts the fuel rate depending on the fuel type. 2 of mine are running on used motor oil, used transmission fluid, gasoline, old mineral spirits and whatever else will burn. That being said never mix used motor oil and used cooking oil. It turns to the same type of rubbery stuff that opened enamel paint turns into. Not good in the fuel system.
I don’t think the deuce was turbocharged. Our mess section had a non-turbo one back in the late 90s and that thing barely maintained 15mph pulling the mobile kitchen up moderate hills.
I agree, didn't sound like it either, probably an M35A1, the A2's had whistler turbos that you could hear from a mile away, and the A1's didn't have the turbos and you could see their smoke plume from a mile away.
Those five tons with the Cummins got nothing on my deuce. My old Hercules with the fuel density regulator bypassed would out pull them any day. 😹. Good video 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
There's quite a difference in power between the two that's one of the reasons why. The FMTV's with the Caterpillar 3126/C7 all have 290 HP/860 TQ while the M900/M939 series that had the Cummins NHC-250 were 250 HP/658 TQ and the later A2's with the 6CT was 240 HP/592 TQ.
@@flight2k5 I already know about that,that's why I had written "one of the reasons why" when I was comparing. The M1083-M1089 MTV can weigh as much as a M113A3 in some cases.The MTV is what replaced the entirety of the five ton trucks as a series,while the LMTV was made with just one less axle and be classified as a two and a half ton truck.The HIMARS is the same frame and chassis as a FMTV but used as a missile and weapons system launcher. I've been able to work on a few FMTV's (Not in the military) that are privately owned by members I know.One of the things I notice is that they seem to always end up in the shop after some time because of head gasket failure.
The M816's actually came with Cummins NHC-250's and were built by Kaiser Jeep/AM General.The trucks you're referring to are the M62A1's or M543A1's that came out before the M800/M809 series,and the A1's were all built by Mack and had Mack EDNT-673's.
Sleds are 32,000 pounds empty. Count the weight blocks and multiply that by 2,000. Then add to the dry weight and that is how much they pull. Some of these videos you can't make out what is in the weight box.
Not rolling much coal. Must be running straight diesel fuel. I have a mix of diesel fuel, mineral spirits, used motor oil, transmission fluid, gasoline, and whatever else I can get that will burn. Mostly from cars that I have junked.
@@1320fastback my 76 seems to make the same amount of power with any fuel. I do know that the fuel rate is different than every other deuce I've seen. 77MM3/stroke vs 74MM3/stroke fuel rate for my other 2. The 76 can pull a hill better with 5 ton of gravel in the bed than one of the other ones empty. Its just an animal.
The multi-fuel was actually a weak engine with some flaws and lasted short on mileage. The LDT-465 was 135 HP/330 TQ while the LDS-465 was 175 HP/447 TQ. The multi-fuel was still a compression engine with a fuel compensator and different injection.Using gasoline obviously was last resort.If gasoline is applied,it has to be mixed with motor oil or diesel,on top of having more than what gasoline was included.
@@Slim_Slid For the size, it was a pretty powerful engine. All the other engines are bigger. Multi-fuels were made for a reason, to be able to use whatever fuel was available in a wartime situation. They didn't need to be speed demons.
this is fun, thanks for compiling and sharing. Any chance you have the distances for each truck and can lay them over in titles after each pull? Be interesting to see comparison.
I do have distanced that are read over the PA speakers. But there are never more than one at any given event where the sled could be set differently from event to event. Whereas say a National Modified 4x4 class is going to have 10-15 competitors and the weight will be similar all season. Thanks for tuning in.
Yeah, our guys from around the world are watching for all things unusual. But we still want to be awesome at the normal stuff as well. The first part of that video is all me and my team. The second part is stuff from all over.
Pulls go like this. You arrive at a fair, then you hear the pull order. All that is a list of the different classes. Classes are broken down by weight, horsepower range, big tires, small tires, and by trucks and tractors. There are times where truck pull against tractors but this is rare. So with a given class you might have 5 to 10 and sometimes 15-20 competitors competing for the tops spot $300-400 dollars. It might not seem like a lot, but that is what it pays because they pay the top 8 or so vehicles in a class so everybody gets something. The first hook is the test hook. The sled operator will set the weight in the sled and how fast he wants the weight box to top out on the sled before the first puller runs. After the first puller pulls and if the distance is good or in the range they want, the the class is set. The first puller also has the option to drop their first hook and we try to tell you that on the videos. Sometimes the will watch one more to make sure it is set perfectly in the case of breakage or a lower horsepower competitor gets the first hook. Once the sled it set for the class, then the remaining vehicles will drag the sled as far as they possibly can. The test hook if they dropped it will come back sixth or last depending on if they have problems. The one who pulls the sled the farthest is the winner. So any given night you will see 4, 5, even 10 different winners. The better the momentum you start with, the further your run will be. Follow our page for events: facebook.com/pg/WillWhittProductions/events/.
Wait till all these E-trucks show up! Whhhhh-uh-uh-uh-phft...500 foot pull! Then it will be like, "What, It ran? I was in the porta john? I didn't hear a thing!"
would it not be smarter to get two or more to pull it all the way, instead of these short pulls? whatever you are making must take a long time to make when the trucks only can pull it bit by bit.
On those old 2 1/2 tons they have a multi fuel engine, we used to mix 1/2 and 1/2 Mogas and Diesel they would have a nice blue flame out the stack.
They did lack some hp
Before they hit the Auction Block the multi-fuel element had been removed.
They run on Strictly diesel. I've got over a million miles in the Duce.5. & the M-51 5 ton dump trucks. The turbos's & gas / diesel mix did blow a great blue flame out the stack....Bad part of those old trucks, they were top-heavy and dangerous. On bad road at any speed.
We used to swing over to the flight line a fill the deuce with JP4 when we could. They ran great on the jet fuel.
@@rogermarshall8991 what makes them multi fuel is the engine design. The fuel density compensator only responds to fuel viscosity and adjusts the fuel rate depending on the fuel type. 2 of mine are running on used motor oil, used transmission fluid, gasoline, old mineral spirits and whatever else will burn. That being said never mix used motor oil and used cooking oil. It turns to the same type of rubbery stuff that opened enamel paint turns into. Not good in the fuel system.
@@KyleTerrioJohnson JP4 is kerosene, wich basically is a better diesel
That's a 5 ton they usually pull pretty good I had one that's cool it's really cool👍🍺🇺🇲
For God sakes Use the ctis deflate them tires and gain some traction
You think
Exactly
maybe they didnt want to break something
@@wtfhlostonparadise8278 I speak from experience they don't break that easily
and slow the freaking sled down .. let them make a decent showing
I would like to see a M-4 Sherman pull that sled!
It would go on forever😂
I wanna see another deuce and a half go through a riot with trump 2020 on the side of it.
@@Nikkk6969 FOUND THE BOOTLICKER
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I don’t think the deuce was turbocharged. Our mess section had a non-turbo one back in the late 90s and that thing barely maintained 15mph pulling the mobile kitchen up moderate hills.
I agree, didn't sound like it either, probably an M35A1, the A2's had whistler turbos that you could hear from a mile away, and the A1's didn't have the turbos and you could see their smoke plume from a mile away.
Definitely cool especially the 40s chevy
Those five tons with the Cummins got nothing on my deuce. My old Hercules with the fuel density regulator bypassed would out pull them any day. 😹. Good video 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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I love 5 ton military trucks😍
I guess not too many people have a M984A1 Hemtt wrecker or a M1070 Super HETS. Now that's pulling power. Lol. 💪
Or the Palletized Loading System
I wanna see some M 916 and M 920s pull. Miss the Cat 16 speed behind a Cummins big cam 3.
The M915-M920 and M915A1-M920A1 with the NTC-400 would move about anything with the Caterpillar 7155 and Allison Automatic.I use to have a 1985 M915.
A HEMTT or HET would be cool to see.
I'm kinda disappointed , these trucks should of dragged that sled to town and back...
An excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
Thank you very much!
Love how the 4 wheel drive lmtv out pulled the 900 series.
There's quite a difference in power between the two that's one of the reasons why.
The FMTV's with the Caterpillar 3126/C7 all have 290 HP/860 TQ while the M900/M939 series that had the Cummins NHC-250 were 250 HP/658 TQ and the later A2's with the 6CT was 240 HP/592 TQ.
@@Slim_Slid it’s not just the power The fmtvs weighs about as much as the 5 ton
@@flight2k5 I already know about that,that's why I had written "one of the reasons why" when I was comparing.
The M1083-M1089 MTV can weigh as much as a M113A3 in some cases.The MTV is what replaced the entirety of the five ton trucks as a series,while the LMTV was made with just one less axle and be classified as a two and a half ton truck.The HIMARS is the same frame and chassis as a FMTV but used as a missile and weapons system launcher.
I've been able to work on a few FMTV's (Not in the military) that are privately owned by members I know.One of the things I notice is that they seem to always end up in the shop after some time because of head gasket failure.
Remember these trucks are detuned so that the engine doesn't make enough horsepower to break the drive line. Hence the military toughness.
Thank you for share video
They need to adjust that p-pump a little bit on those m923a2's
It's a deuce and a half
thanks for sharing my compliments sir
Do they have different pull lengths for the different trucks?
They need the old M816 with the Mack, that the wrecker 5 ton.
The M816's actually came with Cummins NHC-250's and were built by Kaiser Jeep/AM General.The trucks you're referring to are the M62A1's or M543A1's that came out before the M800/M809 series,and the A1's were all built by Mack and had Mack EDNT-673's.
How much weight was on this sled because I full pulled one with 30000 pounds of mine
Sleds are 32,000 pounds empty. Count the weight blocks and multiply that by 2,000. Then add to the dry weight and that is how much they pull. Some of these videos you can't make out what is in the weight box.
Not rolling much coal. Must be running straight diesel fuel. I have a mix of diesel fuel, mineral spirits, used motor oil, transmission fluid, gasoline, and whatever else I can get that will burn. Mostly from cars that I have junked.
Multi Fuel trucks make the most horse power on straight diesel. Doesn't make sense to run mult fuel in a power competition.
@@1320fastback my 76 seems to make the same amount of power with any fuel. I do know that the fuel rate is different than every other deuce I've seen. 77MM3/stroke vs 74MM3/stroke fuel rate for my other 2. The 76 can pull a hill better with 5 ton of gravel in the bed than one of the other ones empty. Its just an animal.
The multi-fuel was actually a weak engine with some flaws and lasted short on mileage.
The LDT-465 was 135 HP/330 TQ while the LDS-465 was 175 HP/447 TQ.
The multi-fuel was still a compression engine with a fuel compensator and different injection.Using gasoline obviously was last resort.If gasoline is applied,it has to be mixed with motor oil or diesel,on top of having more than what gasoline was included.
@@Slim_Slid For the size, it was a pretty powerful engine. All the other engines are bigger. Multi-fuels were made for a reason, to be able to use whatever fuel was available in a wartime situation. They didn't need to be speed demons.
@@ffjsb Read my previous reply...Thank you for repeating some of what I already wrote.
Those things are so sick. I want one
There is a Military truck buy/sell group on Facebook facebook.com/groups/593749694111013/?ref=share
this is fun, thanks for compiling and sharing. Any chance you have the distances for each truck and can lay them over in titles after each pull? Be interesting to see comparison.
I do have distanced that are read over the PA speakers. But there are never more than one at any given event where the sled could be set differently from event to event. Whereas say a National Modified 4x4 class is going to have 10-15 competitors and the weight will be similar all season. Thanks for tuning in.
@@WWPTV Gotcha, thanks!
They should allow trucks from overseas to compete ie: Tatra truck trials in Czech republic
Do what it's just a local truck pull you pull what you got
Yeah, our guys from around the world are watching for all things unusual. But we still want to be awesome at the normal stuff as well. The first part of that video is all me and my team. The second part is stuff from all over.
It ain’t the truck it’s the grip!
Very cool.
Military might at its best USA!!!!USA!!!!
so who won???
This is multiple different competitions at different places...
Add the Scammell Explorer pulls.
Helllllll YEAAAAAAA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
How does these pulls work I've never been to one.
Pulls go like this. You arrive at a fair, then you hear the pull order. All that is a list of the different classes. Classes are broken down by weight, horsepower range, big tires, small tires, and by trucks and tractors. There are times where truck pull against tractors but this is rare. So with a given class you might have 5 to 10 and sometimes 15-20 competitors competing for the tops spot $300-400 dollars. It might not seem like a lot, but that is what it pays because they pay the top 8 or so vehicles in a class so everybody gets something. The first hook is the test hook. The sled operator will set the weight in the sled and how fast he wants the weight box to top out on the sled before the first puller runs. After the first puller pulls and if the distance is good or in the range they want, the the class is set. The first puller also has the option to drop their first hook and we try to tell you that on the videos. Sometimes the will watch one more to make sure it is set perfectly in the case of breakage or a lower horsepower competitor gets the first hook. Once the sled it set for the class, then the remaining vehicles will drag the sled as far as they possibly can. The test hook if they dropped it will come back sixth or last depending on if they have problems. The one who pulls the sled the farthest is the winner. So any given night you will see 4, 5, even 10 different winners. The better the momentum you start with, the further your run will be. Follow our page for events: facebook.com/pg/WillWhittProductions/events/.
@@WWPTV I will for sure check out the page thanks for the info
More torque than a Honda
Who would've thought a 100 year old truck can out pull most new trucks built today. American enginuity at its finest.
The tank haulers had to go bring in the tank m1
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Wait till all these E-trucks show up! Whhhhh-uh-uh-uh-phft...500 foot pull! Then it will be like, "What, It ran? I was in the porta john? I didn't hear a thing!"
Zavorre?🇮🇹
Put 5 ton in the box
40s Chevy cool but far from stock not the same
The fater you are the better traction the truck will have
2:00 Rambo )
Second off let the damn air pressure out of the tires . That bouncing fucks ya . And less traction
Awww didn't have a 7 ton mtvr. Used those thing in iraq and holy shit
I own a old duce and a half i helped to pull a train back on to the tracks f
would it not be smarter to get two or more to pull it all the way, instead of these short pulls? whatever you are making must take a long time to make when the trucks only can pull it bit by bit.
magnetmannenbannanen hahaha nice
А если российские УРАЛы или КАМАЗы? URAL and KAMAZ?
My suburban would out pull them 6x6 trucks 😳
shut up loser