He has absolutely no idea how happy his editing makes me, the content is good but generally inapplicable to me, but boy do I love watching it. His general mood is so fun to me.
I could care less about what this video is about, I’m just here cause this man has me in tears from laughter every time I watch a video. The way he edits it with quick cuts is just stellar!! This needs to be a series on some sort of home network!!
Yet you watched basically the entire video before he said that! I'm pretty sure he had you with the thumbnail. Under Dunn is now always tapped on when it shows in my feed. :)
I've been on the fence about changing the cutter head in mine. It's a good machine, and the right size for my workshop. Thanks for the info, watching this just cost me $350. But it's going to be well worth it.
First time viewing your site. I really enjoyed your delivery of info. No stumbling, no swearing and helpful info. Thx. I have a 1947-8 6” Beaver Callander that I was thinking of updating. I did install carbide blades which helped a lot but same as you I find the chips can be annoying. I also have a Dewalt 735 planer that I would like to change out the blades to a helix style. Once again thanks for the info and look forward to more
Just upgraded my Ridgid to Lux Cut with your instructions, thanks! When I finished, my cutter wasn't aligned with my outfeed table properly. I had to reposition the outfeed, and then reset my infeed table depth gauge to be in sync.
I wish you had the time to make more videos. I have no idea what you would make videos about, but I love the videos that you do make. I find the information so interesting and actually helpful, and most of the time it's things that I would have never thought of before as doable
I hadn't realized post-production helical cutter heads were a thing. I might have to look into upgrading my planer. Now that one was a deal - due to a bar code error and an inattentive/unknowledgeable worker at Menards, I got it brand new for $10.
Or the worker new full well what was going on but just couldn't care less or even better could just go with the "oh I just scanned the part it said it was $10 so I got the $10 from the customer and sent them on their way I have no idea what a helical cutter head is". Which seems far more likely to me and what's Menards going to do about it I can't expect their employees to know what things are and how much it should approximately cost
One thing to keep in mind, just because they come out of the same factory doesn't mean they're the same. Motors, bearings, blades, etc. can be easily changed for different production runs, other parts can be binned so the nicest ones go into the most expensive and the worst (but still usable) ones go into the cheapest, and how much effort is put into quality control can change. Are they actually actually going through the effort of doing all that? Who knows... I'd still buy the cheapest one though lol
Many foreign factories don't bother stocking more than one set of parts. Even if it is the cheapest thing and somehow does manage to be built worse than the thing right next to it on the production line, his $400 savings will cover any shot bearings plenty of times over - Or just once if he does the right thing of getting nice quality ones immediately and still ends up with an amazing deal.
Not to mention the motor is probably not the same. You get what you pay for. More money has been wasted trying to save money by buying cheap. It always ends up costing more than buying the right thing the first time.
@@tarstarkusz He didn't buy some cheap brandless knockoff that'll break in a month, he bought a fine product. That's exactly where the best value for money is. If you just go for the expensive brands you end up paying a lot just for brand recognition. Take cars for example. Buy the cheapest car you can find and you'll be paying through the nose for repairs, but that doesn't mean you should go and buy a Tesla or something if you want the best value for your money.
@@Huntracony I completely disagree. Commercial equipment is on a whole different level than consumer equipment. I kind of agree that if you are in the consumer market with only occasional light use, something like what he has might be OK and possibly even the best bang for buck. Paying for a brand with machinery is not like with clothes. You are paying for the reputation and the after sales service, parts availability You are not paying for a label, you are paying for what that label represents. The real weak point of most consumer equipment is duty cycle. This thing probably has a 5-10% duty cycle.
@@tarstarkusz Well, it's a six inch jointer, which pretty much screams "hobby shop, light use". A pro shop that needs commercial equipment would probably have at least an 8 inch jointer.
What about the helical blades that are alternate in style but not spiral? Like on the WEN JT833H 10-Amp 8-Inch Spiral Benchtop Jointer with Extendable Table?
I like how he took the time to tell us he wasn’t going to change the jointer color because he’s lazy. It’s details like that that keep me coming back! 😂
My wife got me one for father's day about 15 years ago. Not knowing what to look for, she just said, "Give me the best you got at the Ho** Dep**. Been very happy with mine but was seriously looking for a similar upgrade. Thanks for the information.
Hi Robert, last night I decided to look to see what happened to you I thought you fell off the face of the earth. And wal lah here you are with two videos this morning. Thank you for the TTI and the Direct Tools info. It turned out there is a Direct Tools right near my freeway off-ramp I didn't know about. I love the videos now even more. God bless and take care.
Picked up a ridgid jointer last week on craigslist for $300. It came with a rolling tool base and was practically new. Really want some helical heads for this and my planer. Shcoked to learn that the tools are the same as powermatic/grizzly and others. Sounds like it should be a good little tool for a long time. Also, quick update, retail at Home Depot is now $799 so close to $900 after tax now.
There is one argument to be made for the straight knived cutters (I still recommend helical): They have a uniform surface finish. You get some mild but noticeable scalloping with helical cutter heads, but that can be sanded away if it matters (outer surfaces) or ignored if it doesn't (glue lines, inner surfaces). All in all, I'm extremely happy with the cutter I put in my dad's 40 year old powermatic.
those bases are nicer if you make with a piece of scrap 3/4 plywood, i only say this because building them this way rather than with the metal erector set stuff gives a shelf when done. i have this jointer and personally like to a bunch of paint cans under it and find the added weight helps make the machine a bit more sturdy when using it.. thanks for the upload your content rocks
I did the same thing to my Ridgid Jointer and kept the original cutter head in whole. I did the assembly when putting the Jointer together. It works great and thank you.
Time index 3:02. OMG YOU TOOL! TURN THE BIT THE CASTER IS BOLTED TO UPSIDE DOWN (in your case) or to be clear, right side up! Do I also have to tell you to unmount and remount the casters so the round bits aren't facing the ceiling? I have the same bora Mobil mount and its perfect.
Great video ... I'm doing this for sure....just a matter of time and money. I love your videos, they're no nonsense and truly genuine. BY THE WAY... you're deliver and flavor is, for me, a cross between Andy Rooney and Stumpy Nubs... of which, somehow Yours is way way better to watch. Keep up the great work!!!!!! (yes, deserving of 5 or 6 exclams)
just for the newbies- "same factory" does not = same quality. All factories provide levels of quality for specific price points. Price points drive the design and manufacturing not competition.
been trying to find that jointer for a long time now, it's out of stock at my store(s) and online so here I wait while you're having all the fun.. good video and good info on the helical head.
I bought this same jointer for our shop at school. The cost savings allowed us to get the Rigid lunchbox planer as well. Aside from removing one guys fingertip(his fault, not the jointer) I never had an issue.
I have had a Rigid 6" jointer for almost 20 years. I love it. I have never had to change/sharpen blades and I am careful what I cut and how much of a cut I take. I have jointed pine but mostly oak. If you abuse any tool, you are creating a maintenance nightmare. Work smart and your tools will last a long time. To keep from clogging your dust collector, take a thinner cut. Maybe an extra pass but no cleaning out the dust collector.
You haven't sharpened your jointer blades in 20 years? You must only use your jointer once a year. Either way, any woodworker that starts a statement with " I've never sharpened my tool in 20 years" isn't going to be taken very seriously.
02:00 The other good news is those who buy at Home Depot can sign up for the Lifetime Service Agreement (most Direct Tools purchases are not eligible though).
Great video! I found that a ton of other tools fit the same profile... lots of brands and colors but all made with the same specs by the same manufacturer. Saw that in spindle sanders and scroll saws too.
I really like your videos... always to the point and trying to be cost effective. Not everyone is made of money and we need to spend ours wisely. I wish they made a helical head for my old (1960s) Rockwell 4". The entire thing was free... I inherited it in super great condition from my dad... and more than enough capacity for my shop needs & space to use it in. ;) The only cost to me was to build a new stand for it (
See if Sheartak makes one. They're in Canada. If they don't already make one you could send them yours and they can design one. They didn't make a helical head for Shopsmith 12" planers until a guy (who is on TH-cam with less than 100 subscribers) who lived 10 minutes from their factory called and asked. They said to bring his planer in and they'd make one. Now they have the Shopsmith planer head available for anyone to buy. I assume other companies would make a helical head for your Rockwell but who knows how long it'd take and how much it would cost.
Recently found direct tools myself, bought a "factory blemished" portable wet/dry vacuum that was basically perfect. Sadly they don't have a store where I am so it's online orders only. (maybe that's a good thing?)
I have the same Ridgid jointer. I have no problem with Ridgid tools. I also have their band saw and recently replaced the TS360 Table Saw with a SawStop. That being said, they are cheaper tools. Everyone to their own. My experience with Ridgid has been very positive. Also, I have the Bora wheels on my Ridgid. How right you are!!! I’m going to immediately order the “generic” mobile base! I”m also going to order the helical head. I went through the pain of replacing the straight blades 2 months ago. They’re already nicked. I’m “Dunn” with straight knife cutter heads!! :D
I feel as if we need to start a Direct Tools Outlet Support Group, where we spend uncomfortable amounts of money on discount tools and ourselves feel better about doing so.
Mine was $100 Canadian dollars. Craigslist- used is the way to go. My mobile base was $0. I made it from some 2x4 scraps and tossed on some wheels from a bbq. Total cost $100 Canadian. It is an ancient Craftsman model. It weighs as much as a battleship. It is terrific. Trouble free. Again $100 Buy used. Best option.
Funny, true, and imformative. I have Bora PM-1000 mobile base on my 14in bandsaw, and I do not have this problem. Mine rolls around easy and steers good. I have the same jointer. I bought Ridgid TS3650, this jointer and a HF dust collector with upgraded filter from a friend for $500. Best purcahse ever. Way better than my 2nd best purcahse, Stanley No. 45 with box, a full box of cutters, all accessories, and a No. 171 thrown in for $70. 3rd best is probably a type 11 No. 4-1/2 for $30. I had to drive over an hour one way to get it. I installed Shlix head in my Ridgid 13in thickness planer, and it's been great. I thought about upgrading to a helical head on jointer, but it's not determined yet. I want to get an 8in jointer then get a helical head eventually, so spending money on this 6in may not be the best investment for me. Since I have quite a few hand planes now, I tend to reach for hand tools if I am only jointing a few boards. When I am milling more than 3 pieces, I take the jointer out and batch through them quickly. The push blocks came with this jointer are not very good. I feel the foam padding can be too slipery. I recently bought a pair of grout floats. Initial impression is pretty good except they are a little big. I may cut them down a little.
I just looked up that exact Rigid model on Home Depot’s website and it is going for $799. Kind of crazy that it’s almost doubled in price in a little over a year since this video came out.
I've put everything in my shop on rollers. I use the 30x19 furniture movers from Harbor Freight. $17 at full price but can usually find discount coupons for $13 or so.
Robert, I have missed you . You are becoming so professional. That was a brilliant , informative and funny presentation. No wonder you are being supported by manufactures. Very Well done and buy some more cheap stuff and do 'em up so I can see more of your videos, please.
I have been using that jointer for over 15 years. I have no complaints. it does its job. It's job being to flatten 2 sides. The planer and the drum sander get the item to finish quality. No need in my opinion to spend another $450.
Great video. I upgraded my thickness planer a couple years ago, and I'm looking forward to putting a helical head in my 15-year-old Ridgid jointer. Until then, it's an extra step to joint, plane, and then flip it over to plane the tearout from the side that I joined.
@@TheSnekkerShow Ah, there's the rub. Also in Elm. However, how many times do you run across changing grain direction? The only way to handle that situation, prior to finishing, is to use a card scraper. (like in a tree stump.)
if you’re willing to go tabletop model, I have the wahuda 6”. spiral cutter head instead of helical. works freaking great. I keep saying things like, oh that panel came out perfect.
Same jointer, some comments about stock setup. No helical cutter upgrade yet. The caster wheel brackets on that mobile base are weird. Are you sure the orange caster mounts were installed correctly? Maybe they were upside down?
First and Foremost, thank you for your effort and research regarding this jointer. I went to Tool Direct and was put on waiting list. Received call today and one had arrived. $499 is price as you stated. But, today was last day of 25% discount. Walked out the door for $375! Came home to rewatch the video to see the stand you purchased and found the link. But, I have a question? The stand will adjust from 12" to 33" but according to Rigid the planer is 45.5" wide. Am I missing something because it looks like some funky math would have to happen to make this base fit?
I made a base from 3/4" plywood, bolted 4 swivel locking casters, works like a charm except, it makes my Rigid top heavy. Wanting to make the cutter head change myself. Cheers :)
Great review, great buy, great upgrades, great humor and who doesn't like to save money? Just got a subscriber. Thank for video, the laughs and the k-nowledge.
@@shugthehornyhaggis jo, Zulassungsstelle. Die Statistiken kann man sich frei herunterladen. Und man sollte auch bedenken, dass a) trabbis nicht oft auf der Autobahn und b) insgesamt nicht viel bewegt werden. Aber zugelassen ist auch nicht gleich gefahren.
CMT has some orange tools as well, one spindle router head would cost the same or triple than your scrap metal jointer. BTW it's never the colour, it's more the quality and the brand, the last should be the price tag. That jointer way struggling with a piece of pine, because the motor is under powered. Even with the hellix will not do a proper job on hardwood.
Do you find the jointer 'tippy' on the mobile base? I have the same machine and it's so skinny and top-heavy that it's a bit scary to roll around. Every time a wheel hits a crack or bump on the floor, it wants to tip over sideways. I need to build a wider base and bolt the machine down to it.
I've had the 6" Ridgid for several years now. I got it at HD for $350 (IIRC) used it sparingly because of the chips it made, 0r should I say slivers. They were difficult to collect. I had stop often to clear the chute. I got one of those cutter heads like you did a couple of years ago, and chip removal/collection is 100 times better. I cobbled some 4x4s and some casters I had to make the thing mobile, I have a postage stamp size shop. Anyway, replacing the cutterhead makes such a difference. Nice post.
---- you remember correctly: got mine years back from HD and it was $349.95 - bought one and ordered a Shelix cutterhead the same day : never even tried it with the straight knife set-up - so I doubled the cost of the jointer and count it as money well spent
@@bonesrhodes3762 That was a good move on your part. I just priced the same Ridigid jointer, they want $800 for one, and it still has 3 knives. We win!
@@darkdelta ---- yep: I have an old 1942 Delta 6" jointer that I would like to put a helical cutterhead in but (a) i haven't found one that fits, and (b) it's hard to justify the cost for a duplicate tool I really don't need ( but when does 'need' matter when tool hoarding ) - I also have a 1952 Craftsman 4" jointer I really want to set up with a helical head - that I would use - again, I don't think anyone makes a drop-in head for it - but I do have a 4" helical cutterhead for a shaper with a 3/4 inch shaft - and my SIL has a lathe and knows how to use it - so, maybe.
i came very close to getting the grizzly g0814 like you mentioned,,, but it still has the straight knives which i agree with you completely about changing over,,i actually dont have the room for the floor model but it seems like you get so much more,,like rabbitting,,,,did you consider the benchtop model,,
Sad that there is ONLY ONE orientation for the carbide tips. I would have expected a carbide tip, such as what is used on a lathe, with at least 2 tips available from each carbide blade. Or did I miss something?
I bought the same jointer from a retired woodworker who was moving and needed it gone. He left the knives really sharp and the bed was super clean. He recommended shallow passes and at first it was a dream. I went through a lot of red oak and some hard maple until a few months later I was having problems with box store pine. Knife sharpness and set-up are more important than I seem to remember most times when dealing with my machines.
11:30 was soooo satisfying. Also I don’t think I’ve heard anyone talk about the feel of jointer knives before, or at least that anyone felt like they were trying to slap your workpiece away. Interesting.
I must be doing something wrong. I've had this same Ridgid Jointer you show here for over 10 years, but I've never had some of the issues you describe. I've thought about a "helical cutter head", but never got one. That board-slapping issue you described has never happened to me! A question: Did you use cutters straight out of the box? All of the cutters I have purchased after-market have arrived horribly dull -- they are not sharp. I believe the cutters that came on my jointer were sharp -- and I have never had the "slapping" issue you spoke of. Ever. Point is, my "Normal" sound & feel seems exactly like your "After the Helix-head" sound & feel! Also: I've always just used a Shop Vac for my DC, and I may have clogged the jointer perhaps once or twice -- usually when the Shop Vac is full. Is it possible you are taking too much off at once? I always take just a little off at a time, and scribble a pencil-line beforehand, so I know when the board is flat. Mobility: Never had any problems. In my old shop, (2-car garage), I placed the jointer centrally, next to a pole and never moved it -- I have always had sufficient infeed & outfeed clearance. Now that I've moved, my entire shop == my living room! So, I built a 2x4 frame for my jointer, added some plywood to the bottom, then added a Whole Bunch of carpet-sliders. Now I can move jointer, with some effort, wherever I need to. I am now in the process of making a sharpening jig for my New (Read: Dull) blades. Your thoughts?
It's called a jointer, because it's main purpose is ensuring the mating surfaces of two boards glued edge to edge (flat), to make a larger board, have no gaps. Thus they are jointed. Plus, jointer is short for jointer planer.
He has absolutely no idea how happy his editing makes me, the content is good but generally inapplicable to me, but boy do I love watching it. His general mood is so fun to me.
I could care less about what this video is about, I’m just here cause this man has me in tears from laughter every time I watch a video. The way he edits it with quick cuts is just stellar!! This needs to be a series on some sort of home network!!
You had me at me "It's staying orange because I'm lazy." XD
That is about to become a very frequently used quote in my shop.
Yet you watched basically the entire video before he said that! I'm pretty sure he had you with the thumbnail. Under Dunn is now always tapped on when it shows in my feed. :)
I've been on the fence about changing the cutter head in mine. It's a good machine, and the right size for my workshop. Thanks for the info, watching this just cost me $350. But it's going to be well worth it.
First time viewing your site. I really enjoyed your delivery of info. No stumbling, no swearing and helpful info. Thx. I have a 1947-8 6” Beaver Callander that I was thinking of updating. I did install carbide blades which helped a lot but same as you I find the chips can be annoying. I also have a Dewalt 735 planer that I would like to change out the blades to a helix style. Once again thanks for the info and look forward to more
"So join me"
Missed opportunity to say "Joint me"
Hey you forgot about the link belt
i never knew about direct tools outlet until now, and i just looked it up and there is one a few miles down the road from me. i think im in trouble!
Just upgraded my Ridgid to Lux Cut with your instructions, thanks! When I finished, my cutter wasn't aligned with my outfeed table properly. I had to reposition the outfeed, and then reset my infeed table depth gauge to be in sync.
I wish you had the time to make more videos. I have no idea what you would make videos about, but I love the videos that you do make. I find the information so interesting and actually helpful, and most of the time it's things that I would have never thought of before as doable
$1,250 for the Grizzly plus $125 for freight as well. First time here, nice video, quick and simple with good explanations. I'm subbing.
I hadn't realized post-production helical cutter heads were a thing. I might have to look into upgrading my planer. Now that one was a deal - due to a bar code error and an inattentive/unknowledgeable worker at Menards, I got it brand new for $10.
Or the worker new full well what was going on but just couldn't care less or even better could just go with the "oh I just scanned the part it said it was $10 so I got the $10 from the customer and sent them on their way I have no idea what a helical cutter head is". Which seems far more likely to me and what's Menards going to do about it I can't expect their employees to know what things are and how much it should approximately cost
One thing to keep in mind, just because they come out of the same factory doesn't mean they're the same. Motors, bearings, blades, etc. can be easily changed for different production runs, other parts can be binned so the nicest ones go into the most expensive and the worst (but still usable) ones go into the cheapest, and how much effort is put into quality control can change. Are they actually actually going through the effort of doing all that? Who knows... I'd still buy the cheapest one though lol
Many foreign factories don't bother stocking more than one set of parts.
Even if it is the cheapest thing and somehow does manage to be built worse than the thing right next to it on the production line, his $400 savings will cover any shot bearings plenty of times over - Or just once if he does the right thing of getting nice quality ones immediately and still ends up with an amazing deal.
Not to mention the motor is probably not the same. You get what you pay for. More money has been wasted trying to save money by buying cheap. It always ends up costing more than buying the right thing the first time.
@@tarstarkusz He didn't buy some cheap brandless knockoff that'll break in a month, he bought a fine product. That's exactly where the best value for money is. If you just go for the expensive brands you end up paying a lot just for brand recognition.
Take cars for example. Buy the cheapest car you can find and you'll be paying through the nose for repairs, but that doesn't mean you should go and buy a Tesla or something if you want the best value for your money.
@@Huntracony I completely disagree. Commercial equipment is on a whole different level than consumer equipment. I kind of agree that if you are in the consumer market with only occasional light use, something like what he has might be OK and possibly even the best bang for buck. Paying for a brand with machinery is not like with clothes. You are paying for the reputation and the after sales service, parts availability You are not paying for a label, you are paying for what that label represents.
The real weak point of most consumer equipment is duty cycle. This thing probably has a 5-10% duty cycle.
@@tarstarkusz Well, it's a six inch jointer, which pretty much screams "hobby shop, light use". A pro shop that needs commercial equipment would probably have at least an 8 inch jointer.
“Clogged like Chris Farleys arteries” might be the best joke and chuckle I’ve gotten from a DIY video. Bravo.
What about the helical blades that are alternate in style but not spiral? Like on the WEN JT833H 10-Amp 8-Inch Spiral Benchtop Jointer with Extendable Table?
YES finally someone calling out bad tools to save me from buying junk!
Lol
There is nothing wrong with the Ridgid Jointer!
@@tkarlmann he was talking about the moving cart
@@dominicbeltz9057 OK
I like how he took the time to tell us he wasn’t going to change the jointer color because he’s lazy. It’s details like that that keep me coming back! 😂
My wife got me one for father's day about 15 years ago. Not knowing what to look for, she just said, "Give me the best you got at the Ho** Dep**. Been very happy with mine but was seriously looking for a similar upgrade. Thanks for the information.
I ordered Lux cut in November. On back order. It was supposed to ship in January. Delayed. Now supposed to ship in mid March.
Hi Robert, last night I decided to look to see what happened to you I thought you fell off the face of the earth. And wal lah here you are with two videos this morning. Thank you for the TTI and the Direct Tools info. It turned out there is a Direct Tools right near my freeway off-ramp I didn't know about. I love the videos now even more. God bless and take care.
I have almost no interest in jointers for the foreseeable future, I just like watching your informitive and amusing videos, thanks !
Picked up a ridgid jointer last week on craigslist for $300. It came with a rolling tool base and was practically new. Really want some helical heads for this and my planer. Shcoked to learn that the tools are the same as powermatic/grizzly and others. Sounds like it should be a good little tool for a long time. Also, quick update, retail at Home Depot is now $799 so close to $900 after tax now.
There is one argument to be made for the straight knived cutters (I still recommend helical): They have a uniform surface finish. You get some mild but noticeable scalloping with helical cutter heads, but that can be sanded away if it matters (outer surfaces) or ignored if it doesn't (glue lines, inner surfaces). All in all, I'm extremely happy with the cutter I put in my dad's 40 year old powermatic.
those bases are nicer if you make with a piece of scrap 3/4 plywood, i only say this because building them this way rather than with the metal erector set stuff gives a shelf when done. i have this jointer and personally like to a bunch of paint cans under it and find the added weight helps make the machine a bit more sturdy when using it.. thanks for the upload your content rocks
Loving the humor, and info in your videos. Please keep up the great work.
You earned my sub with your Billy Eichner energy. Strong work
Thanks. I'm buying the powermatic. That last statement of the gold standard was all I needed
I did the same thing to my Ridgid Jointer and kept the original cutter head in whole. I did the assembly when putting the Jointer together. It works great and thank you.
Love your sense of humor. Keep making videos !!
I think the purpose of a jointer is for edging boards for glue up. The surface is for getting boards flat so they can be planned!
Time index 3:02.
OMG YOU TOOL! TURN THE BIT THE CASTER IS BOLTED TO UPSIDE DOWN (in your case) or to be clear, right side up! Do I also have to tell you to unmount and remount the casters so the round bits aren't facing the ceiling? I have the same bora Mobil mount and its perfect.
Great video ... I'm doing this for sure....just a matter of time and money. I love your videos, they're no nonsense and truly genuine.
BY THE WAY... you're deliver and flavor is, for me, a cross between Andy Rooney and Stumpy Nubs... of which, somehow Yours is way way better to watch. Keep up the great work!!!!!! (yes, deserving of 5 or 6 exclams)
Amazing!!!, thanks for showing us the change over.
just for the newbies- "same factory" does not = same quality. All factories provide levels of quality for specific price points. Price points drive the design and manufacturing not competition.
been trying to find that jointer for a long time now, it's out of stock at my store(s) and online so here I wait while you're having all the fun.. good video and good info on the helical head.
I bought this same jointer for our shop at school. The cost savings allowed us to get the Rigid lunchbox planer as well. Aside from removing one guys fingertip(his fault, not the jointer) I never had an issue.
I have had a Rigid 6" jointer for almost 20 years. I love it. I have never had to change/sharpen blades and I am careful what I cut and how much of a cut I take. I have jointed pine but mostly oak. If you abuse any tool, you are creating a maintenance nightmare. Work smart and your tools will last a long time. To keep from clogging your dust collector, take a thinner cut. Maybe an extra pass but no cleaning out the dust collector.
You haven't sharpened your jointer blades in 20 years? You must only use your jointer once a year. Either way, any woodworker that starts a statement with " I've never sharpened my tool in 20 years" isn't going to be taken very seriously.
02:00 The other good news is those who buy at Home Depot can sign up for the Lifetime Service Agreement (most Direct Tools purchases are not eligible though).
This is Very cool.... I found the same thing with water filters by A.O. Smith.
Great video! I found that a ton of other tools fit the same profile... lots of brands and colors but all made with the same specs by the same manufacturer. Saw that in spindle sanders and scroll saws too.
And 12” planers.
I really like your videos... always to the point and trying to be cost effective. Not everyone is made of money and we need to spend ours wisely.
I wish they made a helical head for my old (1960s) Rockwell 4". The entire thing was free... I inherited it in super great condition from my dad... and more than enough capacity for my shop needs & space to use it in. ;) The only cost to me was to build a new stand for it (
See if Sheartak makes one. They're in Canada. If they don't already make one you could send them yours and they can design one. They didn't make a helical head for Shopsmith 12" planers until a guy (who is on TH-cam with less than 100 subscribers) who lived 10 minutes from their factory called and asked. They said to bring his planer in and they'd make one. Now they have the Shopsmith planer head available for anyone to buy. I assume other companies would make a helical head for your Rockwell but who knows how long it'd take and how much it would cost.
Recently found direct tools myself, bought a "factory blemished" portable wet/dry vacuum that was basically perfect. Sadly they don't have a store where I am so it's online orders only. (maybe that's a good thing?)
Yeah, probably a good thing as far as your bank balance is concerned. And your partner if you have one...
I had that same jointer, and did the same upgrade with a Shelix head. It made a huge difference.
Great information I’ll keep it in mind when it’s time to replace blades
I have the same Ridgid jointer. I have no problem with Ridgid tools. I also have their band saw and recently replaced the TS360 Table Saw with a SawStop. That being said, they are cheaper tools. Everyone to their own. My experience with Ridgid has been very positive. Also, I have the Bora wheels on my Ridgid. How right you are!!! I’m going to immediately order the “generic” mobile base! I”m also going to order the helical head. I went through the pain of replacing the straight blades 2 months ago. They’re already nicked. I’m “Dunn” with straight knife cutter heads!! :D
I feel as if we need to start a Direct Tools Outlet Support Group, where we spend uncomfortable amounts of money on discount tools and ourselves feel better about doing so.
Mine was $100 Canadian dollars. Craigslist- used is the way to go. My mobile base was $0. I made it from some 2x4 scraps and tossed on some wheels from a bbq. Total cost $100 Canadian. It is an ancient Craftsman model. It weighs as much as a battleship. It is terrific. Trouble free. Again $100 Buy used. Best option.
I have the same jointer from HD. I too have not been happy with the feel of the cutting. I think I'll have to explore the Lux Cut III option.
Funny, true, and imformative.
I have Bora PM-1000 mobile base on my 14in bandsaw, and I do not have this problem. Mine rolls around easy and steers good.
I have the same jointer. I bought Ridgid TS3650, this jointer and a HF dust collector with upgraded filter from a friend for $500. Best purcahse ever. Way better than my 2nd best purcahse, Stanley No. 45 with box, a full box of cutters, all accessories, and a No. 171 thrown in for $70. 3rd best is probably a type 11 No. 4-1/2 for $30. I had to drive over an hour one way to get it.
I installed Shlix head in my Ridgid 13in thickness planer, and it's been great. I thought about upgrading to a helical head on jointer, but it's not determined yet. I want to get an 8in jointer then get a helical head eventually, so spending money on this 6in may not be the best investment for me. Since I have quite a few hand planes now, I tend to reach for hand tools if I am only jointing a few boards. When I am milling more than 3 pieces, I take the jointer out and batch through them quickly. The push blocks came with this jointer are not very good. I feel the foam padding can be too slipery. I recently bought a pair of grout floats. Initial impression is pretty good except they are a little big. I may cut them down a little.
I just looked up that exact Rigid model on Home Depot’s website and it is going for $799. Kind of crazy that it’s almost doubled in price in a little over a year since this video came out.
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@@DragnEYE Are we talking about our celebrity crushes now?
@@BenjaminGoose Quite the opposite. Why, did you vote for the guy that crashed our economy harder then Richard Hammond in the Rimac "Concept One"?
I've put everything in my shop on rollers. I use the 30x19 furniture movers from Harbor Freight. $17 at full price but can usually find discount coupons for $13 or so.
Robert, I have missed you . You are becoming so professional. That was a brilliant , informative and funny presentation. No wonder you are being supported by manufactures. Very Well done and buy some more cheap stuff and do 'em up so I can see more of your videos, please.
I have been using that jointer for over 15 years. I have no complaints. it does its job. It's job being to flatten 2 sides. The planer and the drum sander get the item to finish quality. No need in my opinion to spend another $450.
I'm glad that you opened this channel the videos are amazing just like your other channel
You are freaking hysterical! Love your work!
Great video. I upgraded my thickness planer a couple years ago, and I'm looking forward to putting a helical head in my 15-year-old Ridgid jointer. Until then, it's an extra step to joint, plane, and then flip it over to plane the tearout from the side that I joined.
If you are getting too much tearout, are you sure you are reading the grain correctly?
@@tkarlmann Yes, but for woods like tiger-striped maple, the grain changes direction every quarter inch.
@@TheSnekkerShow Ah, there's the rub. Also in Elm. However, how many times do you run across changing grain direction? The only way to handle that situation, prior to finishing, is to use a card scraper. (like in a tree stump.)
@@tkarlmann I saw most of my own lumber, and encounter grain changes quite frequently. A card scraper certainly comes in handy sometimes.
That tape peel was 100% satisfying.
The video topic caught my attention, the wonderful sarcasm made me a subscriber.
if you’re willing to go tabletop model, I have the wahuda 6”. spiral cutter head instead of helical. works freaking great. I keep saying things like, oh that panel came out perfect.
Same jointer, some comments about stock setup. No helical cutter upgrade yet. The caster wheel brackets on that mobile base are weird. Are you sure the orange caster mounts were installed correctly? Maybe they were upside down?
My new favorite woodworking TH-camr. Keep it up man! Your videos are awesome.
Comes with Speed dial for a reason depending on species of lumber
First and Foremost, thank you for your effort and research regarding this jointer. I went to Tool Direct and was put on waiting list. Received call today and one had arrived. $499 is price as you stated. But, today was last day of 25% discount. Walked out the door for $375!
Came home to rewatch the video to see the stand you purchased and found the link. But, I have a question? The stand will adjust from 12" to 33" but according to Rigid the planer is 45.5" wide. Am I missing something because it looks like some funky math would have to happen to make this base fit?
I made a base from 3/4" plywood, bolted 4 swivel locking casters, works like a charm except, it makes my Rigid top heavy. Wanting to make the cutter head change myself. Cheers :)
4:18 my door make that sound as well...
Nice work! Glad to see you back!
I built my tool base and it works great!
9:13 Workpiece labeled "SN" for "Straight kNife."
Makes sense to me! Stay amazing, Robert.
i wonder how different the motors are on the ridgid vs the higher end models made at the same factory
Great review, great buy, great upgrades, great humor and who doesn't like to save money? Just got a subscriber. Thank for video, the laughs and the k-nowledge.
Did you know that there are more Trabants registered in Germany then Telas? Made me think of you when I read that.
@@shugthehornyhaggis 37000 Trabants, 19000 teslas as of 2020. almost double.
that guy is right. also greetings from germany
@@shugthehornyhaggis jo, Zulassungsstelle. Die Statistiken kann man sich frei herunterladen. Und man sollte auch bedenken, dass a) trabbis nicht oft auf der Autobahn und b) insgesamt nicht viel bewegt werden. Aber zugelassen ist auch nicht gleich gefahren.
Registered doesn’t mean roadworthy. js
@@shugthehornyhaggis Bitte! explain what is tüv. This thing is unknown on our side of the Atlantic under that name?? Grüsse aus Kanada!
@@shugthehornyhaggis Similarly, I've seen more Yugos on the road than Tesla's.
lol, laughed my ass off when you were kicking those damn cam levers, been there my friend!
"It's orange." Personal attack to start the day, I see. Accepted.
My thoughts exactly
missing your point and interested in how you draw your conclusion.
I'm Dutch and took that personally.
CMT has some orange tools as well, one spindle router head would cost the same or triple than your scrap metal jointer.
BTW it's never the colour, it's more the quality and the brand, the last should be the price tag.
That jointer way struggling with a piece of pine, because the motor is under powered. Even with the hellix will not do a proper job on hardwood.
I also have a "problem" with my local direct tools... but I don't plan on fixing it any time soon.
Great vid, but I didn’t see the link for the upgraded cutter? Thanks!!!
Do you find the jointer 'tippy' on the mobile base? I have the same machine and it's so skinny and top-heavy that it's a bit scary to roll around. Every time a wheel hits a crack or bump on the floor, it wants to tip over sideways. I need to build a wider base and bolt the machine down to it.
I paid $25 for my Craftsman jointer at a garage sale. Mid 50's I think. Works just as good as a new one.
I've had the 6" Ridgid for several years now. I got it at HD for $350 (IIRC) used it sparingly because of the chips it made, 0r should I say slivers. They were difficult to collect. I had stop often to clear the chute. I got one of those cutter heads like you did a couple of years ago, and chip removal/collection is 100 times better. I cobbled some 4x4s and some casters I had to make the thing mobile, I have a postage stamp size shop. Anyway, replacing the cutterhead makes such a difference. Nice post.
---- you remember correctly: got mine years back from HD and it was $349.95 - bought one and ordered a Shelix cutterhead the same day : never even tried it with the straight knife set-up - so I doubled the cost of the jointer and count it as money well spent
@@bonesrhodes3762 That was a good move on your part. I just priced the same Ridigid jointer, they want $800 for one, and it still has 3 knives. We win!
@@darkdelta ---- yep: I have an old 1942 Delta 6" jointer that I would like to put a helical cutterhead in but (a) i haven't found one that fits, and (b) it's hard to justify the cost for a duplicate tool I really don't need ( but when does 'need' matter when tool hoarding ) - I also have a 1952 Craftsman 4" jointer I really want to set up with a helical head - that I would use - again, I don't think anyone makes a drop-in head for it - but I do have a 4" helical cutterhead for a shaper with a 3/4 inch shaft - and my SIL has a lathe and knows how to use it - so, maybe.
@@bonesrhodes3762 Sounds like the lathe will be making chips, so you can make some too, along with a side order of dust.
I have the same jointer with straight blades and it works just fine, if you know how to use it.
i came very close to getting the grizzly g0814 like you mentioned,,, but it still has the straight knives which i agree with you completely about changing over,,i actually dont have the room for the floor model but it seems like you get so much more,,like rabbitting,,,,did you consider the benchtop model,,
The difference in sound as it cuts is remarkable. It sounds like a legitimate tool after the upgrade.
What would you paint the gray paint to restore infeed and outfeed table base?
Does it need a specific paint for restoration? Mine is brown >_
Sad that there is ONLY ONE orientation for the carbide tips. I would have expected a carbide tip, such as what is used on a lathe, with at least 2 tips available from each carbide blade.
Or did I miss something?
Helical cutter link...isn't a link. May get one for an old 4" delta...because leveling blades sucks. Great video thank you.
I bought the same jointer from a retired woodworker who was moving and needed it gone. He left the knives really sharp and the bed was super clean. He recommended shallow passes and at first it was a dream. I went through a lot of red oak and some hard maple until a few months later I was having problems with box store pine. Knife sharpness and set-up are more important than I seem to remember most times when dealing with my machines.
Thank you so much for the video. Which link-belt did you get, if you don't mind me asking? Thank you!
11:30 was soooo satisfying. Also I don’t think I’ve heard anyone talk about the feel of jointer knives before, or at least that anyone felt like they were trying to slap your workpiece away. Interesting.
Depends on the wood you are jointing and how how sharp the knives are. Usually knot free wood will glide right through a professional unit
I love how you sneak the cost of the LUX Cutter head in. It’s NOT $250 it’s more like $450.00.
Keep up the good work😏
What’s the longest board you jointed on it? Would you be comfortable with an 81” board?
Did the find the helical head caused a bit more HP use? Does it take a bit more effort to pass the wood through the jointer?
The nice thing about the Ridgid jointed is it comes with a free lifetime service agreement.
Awesome review, now, I wonder if I can get a cutter head for my old Delta thickness planer.
I HATE sharpening and replacing the blades in it!
What are those red things you use to hold the wood down as you're passing it through the jointer? Also, where can I get them? Thanks
I must be doing something wrong. I've had this same Ridgid Jointer you show here for over 10 years, but I've never had some of the issues you describe. I've thought about a "helical cutter head", but never got one.
That board-slapping issue you described has never happened to me! A question: Did you use cutters straight out of the box? All of the cutters I have purchased after-market have arrived horribly dull -- they are not sharp. I believe the cutters that came on my jointer were sharp -- and I have never had the "slapping" issue you spoke of. Ever. Point is, my "Normal" sound & feel seems exactly like your "After the Helix-head" sound & feel!
Also: I've always just used a Shop Vac for my DC, and I may have clogged the jointer perhaps once or twice -- usually when the Shop Vac is full. Is it possible you are taking too much off at once? I always take just a little off at a time, and scribble a pencil-line beforehand, so I know when the board is flat.
Mobility: Never had any problems. In my old shop, (2-car garage), I placed the jointer centrally, next to a pole and never moved it -- I have always had sufficient infeed & outfeed clearance. Now that I've moved, my entire shop == my living room! So, I built a 2x4 frame for my jointer, added some plywood to the bottom, then added a Whole Bunch of carpet-sliders. Now I can move jointer, with some effort, wherever I need to.
I am now in the process of making a sharpening jig for my New (Read: Dull) blades.
Your thoughts?
I wonder if the price you quoted from Grizzly included the $200 +/- freight fee. Great video thank you!
Ha! I had that same horrible mobile tool base for that jointer. It was such a massive pain.
Why is it called a jointer? I mean, it's planing the surface so shouldn't it be called a plane or a planer?
It's called a jointer, because it's main purpose is ensuring the mating surfaces of two boards glued edge to edge (flat), to make a larger board, have no gaps. Thus they are jointed. Plus, jointer is short for jointer planer.
@@earthwormjim Thanks. Loved your Sega Megadrive game by the way.
@@earthwormjim That clears my mind ! ;) Thanks !
Other than price, what is the difference between the Shelix and Lux cutter heads?
I'm wondering how you can call Ridgid a lesser quality when right behind you are Ryobi tools on full display.
Awesome vid thanks. Was able to pick up a rusty version of that jointer for 200$. How much for your straight blade cutter head?
9:00 "I expected the new cutterhead to be better, but that was a lot better than I expected" xD