How to Flush a Heater Core (Fast)

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  • Is your heat not working or is your heater not hot? You may have a clogged heater core so do a heater core flush and unclog it. Learn how to flush your heater core and get it working to full capacity again instead of spending hundreds on a replacement!
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  • @adolfomonrreal8985
    @adolfomonrreal8985 ปีที่แล้ว +503

    This video was made 7 years ago and Chris is still responding to messages. legend

    • @Brighter-Shores
      @Brighter-Shores 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Every comment gives them money so that part don't hurt.

    • @0JKLim
      @0JKLim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Goat, legend, savior of house mechanic 👍🏼

    • @justinritter7925
      @justinritter7925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@UploaderPaul so what, he deserves it because he works for it! Lol. He single handedly, from his home, brings us lots of great help with home auto mechanical jobs that need done. His videos make things very easy to understand, he keeps them short, and he covers a lot of topics! Very informative at the same time!! Better than a lot of channels put on by big companies even!

    • @Brighter-Shores
      @Brighter-Shores 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @justinritter7925 what's your point? No one said he didnt deserve it.

    • @monstershayne
      @monstershayne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Brighter-Shoreslol thats not how it works

  • @kimberly4891
    @kimberly4891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1090

    Thank you, Chris. Since my Husband has passed I have to do this by myself. Because of you and your detailed instructions, I got the job done all by myself! Actually, it was pretty simple. P.S.: I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota w/V-8 MAGNUM.

    • @elephantgrass631
      @elephantgrass631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      God bless you and your husband. May he Rest In Peace.

    • @bryancastanon989
      @bryancastanon989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      May Your Husband Rest In Paradise 🙏❤️🙏❤️ God Bless You 🙏🙏❤️

    • @ramumukiya1756
      @ramumukiya1756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes

    • @jeffgood6441
      @jeffgood6441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry to hear that life's rough

    • @corso4547
      @corso4547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Condolences

  • @exhale.
    @exhale. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Can't imagine you'll see this comment, but followed this guidance over the weekend and brought my 20 year old heater from nonfunctional to hot as an oven. Took about 30 gallons and a lot of sediment that looked like pebbles of concrete. The weather is below freezing most mornings now and I'm super appreciative- you've changed my quality of life significantly.

    • @handbananaistherapist642
      @handbananaistherapist642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hard water!

    • @Akotski-ys9rr
      @Akotski-ys9rr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds like you ran straight water in your car or never changed the coolant

    • @exhale.
      @exhale. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Akotski-ys9rr I think previous owner ran 50/50 coolant and tap water and never changed it. I changed the coolant (and radiator, which I now realize I probably could have also flushed) but by the time I got there a drain and fill just wasnt enough.

  • @kristopherdrolet8548
    @kristopherdrolet8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    ChrisFix has been saving me thousands of dollars, this guy should get a nobel prize. I have a 2013 dodge Ram 1500 and I had no more heat on driver's side. I went at the dealer and they told me it could be multiple problems and would cost around 2000$ to fix. Decided to try this first and it worked like a charm, simple steps and only cost me 35$. Thank you so much Chris!

  • @Tom-wq2mz
    @Tom-wq2mz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I've been working on automobiles for over 35 long year's and I love watching your videos. Your a very smart kid

    • @abubekernurahmed8263
      @abubekernurahmed8263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Sir,
      why i hear sound like running water (like Sloshing sound)under my car steering wheel when the car is on?
      Do u have any idea plz😅

    • @Tom-wq2mz
      @Tom-wq2mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abubekernurahmed8263 Check your Steering Wheel fluid

    • @abubekernurahmed8263
      @abubekernurahmed8263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tom-wq2mz Yep i checked it is full

    • @Tom-wq2mz
      @Tom-wq2mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abubekernurahmed8263 Be careful when checking it. The fluid can leak out of the valve core

    • @pinpoint0
      @pinpoint0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He really is. He's taught me a lot! Too many things I haven't done, but maybe someday!

  • @StevesRealWorld
    @StevesRealWorld 8 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    Chris you are a Genius!! My vent temps went from 88'f to 148'f after doing the heater core flush!!! Can't believe what a difference this made!!

    • @TheS1PikesPeak
      @TheS1PikesPeak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      What.. ? 88f is quite low....

    • @kevlarmenace
      @kevlarmenace 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My TJ probably puts that much out. Junk in the system doesn't do much for cab heating.

    • @rosssmith9941
      @rosssmith9941 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Steve's World chris is a boss

    • @n5yiz
      @n5yiz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you had that much deviation, there was a stuck valve or some other blockage.

    • @StevesRetroGaming
      @StevesRetroGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Maybe, BUT this FIXED it and that's all that maters!

  • @joehorstthemechanic-lagran3339
    @joehorstthemechanic-lagran3339 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Pretty good video but just a couple of cautions. You want to be very careful when removing the heater hoses from the heater core, if you have an older heater core and you twist the hoses to remove them, it can damage the heater core and then you have no choice but to replace it. Most often we put a short slice at the end of the hose and work it off carefully then cut the slice off the end of the hose and reinstall it after flushing. When those spring clamps are removed they lose spring tension, I have seen them leak when reused. We always install new screw style clamps. Otherwise the video was very informative and flushing does help heater output most of the time.

    • @CMGDMovies
      @CMGDMovies ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Learned this the hard way, bent up the tip of my heater core on my 3000gt the other day. Going to just get new clamps and make sure they are very secure.

    • @Asphaltaperider
      @Asphaltaperider 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for that info!!

    • @CantonBn
      @CantonBn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @joehorstthemechanic-lagran3339
      John, you make some good points. But spring type clamps are not used on these systems because they are cheaper. But because they continue to tighten as the material of the hose compresses slightly over time. So you get new clamps -- but not screw type, you do want fresh spring type. But you are absolutely correct about treating the rubber to alloy connection carefully and not yanking around. if you dame the heater core you could be looking at up to $2k repair in replacing a heater core which on a modern car an be a full day expert labor removing entire dash

  • @Motley-Croo
    @Motley-Croo ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for teaching me that working on cars doesn’t have to be scary, I started watching before I could drive and now I’m pursuing mechanical engineering. I’ve come a long way thanks to you! ❤

  • @MARTYMEINEKE53
    @MARTYMEINEKE53 6 ปีที่แล้ว +958

    Pro tip never disconnect the heater hose from the heater core itself. Disconnect them from the engine. Reason being the hoses may have to be twisted loose for removal and if you snap the neck of the heater core you are in for a big repair. So remove them on the engine or coolant feed instead

    • @Patrick94GSR
      @Patrick94GSR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      yep, I removed the heater pipes from my core when I did an engine-out service a decade ago, and ended up crushing the brass heater core pipes. Ooops. I drove the car with the core bypassed (no heat) for several months before getting a replacement core, and then I had to pull my entire dashboard to replace the core. It was a HUGE PITA!

    • @travissmith6210
      @travissmith6210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Absolutely true

    • @loweredexpectations8568
      @loweredexpectations8568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if you've got a bypass hose? Will it still flush out?

    • @DJPacoRamirez
      @DJPacoRamirez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lowered Expectations if you have it bypass, typically your heater cores pipes are exposed, which basically your skipping the first couple of steps. Like mine

    • @OcRefrigeration
      @OcRefrigeration 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      very good advice !

  • @averylefor7122
    @averylefor7122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1019

    I bet Chris's vehicles will run forever. He replaces thing that people don't even know exist.

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  7 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      lol

    • @averylefor7122
      @averylefor7122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ChrisFix what would you recommend as far as advanced maintenance to keep my truck running longer?

    • @rcuevas76
      @rcuevas76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Avery LeFor for example blinker fluid lol😂😂😂😂

    • @Zero_Ninety
      @Zero_Ninety 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Avery LeFor Replace every single component..

    • @MrTHL1
      @MrTHL1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      never have sex in your car.

  • @planetrob555
    @planetrob555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I did this several years ago following the instructions on a package for a radiator flush kit. Same method as yours and it really works. However, I used a chemical to break up the crud inside the core. It worked much better than just rinsing the core out. Glad you are promoting this!

  • @planetrob555
    @planetrob555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    2014 "hey guys..."
    2019 "HEY GUYS!!!..."

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      2020: "...guys?"

    • @deeznuts2541
      @deeznuts2541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2020 HEYYYYY GUUUUUUYYYYYSSSSS CHRIS FIX HERE

    • @maskedredstonerproz
      @maskedredstonerproz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Reality Analyst no ,no it's not , trust me , I'm also a TH-camr so I know what's up

    • @wompwompwomps
      @wompwompwomps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Masked Redstoner Pro Z kid u and chrisfix are not on the same level u can’t know what’s up when he has millions of subscribers and you have 38.

    • @spyrosbellos2522
      @spyrosbellos2522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Reality Analyst he deserves it, his videos have helped countless of people

  • @KGemini
    @KGemini ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7 years later and your video is still helping people. SS Monte Carlo 3.8L started blowing cold and having erratic temperatures. Found this video today and got a $5 flush kit from autozone and now my car has heat/normal temperature. Thank you homie

  • @mikecamann2139
    @mikecamann2139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just did this to my 2011 Jeep Liberty, and it worked great! Air vent temp went from 80 F before the flush to 135 F after! Incredible, thank you Chris!

  • @steverogers8329
    @steverogers8329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This was a great walkthrough video! I was able to flush out my 2002 Taurus in about 2 hours. My heater core is farther down behind the engine so it was a bit tougher. My heat wasn’t working at all and after flushing the brown sludge for about ten 5gal buckets, the water was finally clear. I found that running the water both directions got more crap out than just the one direction. In any case, now the heat works 100% and I didn’t have to pull my dashboard out to replace the heater core! Your videos are hands down the best walkthroughs I’ve seen on TH-cam so keep up the great work!

  • @ODog-
    @ODog- ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Chris you’re a life saver, this was my first time doing maintenance on my own and thanks to you I have nice hot heat in my car again 😁

  • @SMC_69Productions
    @SMC_69Productions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Gotta say thanks Chris, showed me the ground work for doing this on my vehicle and it worked. Had to search for something else vehicle specific but I honestly felt that I was going to screw it up. Gotta say thanks again because I wouldn’t have pulled it off without this. Great content as always

  • @nuggetfinder63
    @nuggetfinder63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of the best videos on how to properly flush out a heater core. I especially liked how you re primed the system with antifreeze and showed when it was primed. Good job!

  • @deanomutch6175
    @deanomutch6175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just want to give a massive thank you to you Chrisfix. I've managed to do so much with my 2 Fiesta's on my own and this has made me a very competent D.I.Y mechanic I am today. I'm 18 and have managed to fix both of my old Ford Fiesta's which had heaps of issues and am now able to whiz through the restoration of my 1995 GMC Vandura with ease thanks to you. Wish you all the best and again I can't thank you enough for all your time in these video's 😁.

  • @MichelleSleeper
    @MichelleSleeper ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, just fixed the heat in my 30 year old truck. Found your channel a few weeks ago (looking at 24 Hours of Lemons inspiration), but then YT recommended this video to me. I said why not, let's give it a try. You would not believe the SOLIDS that came out of my heater core. Now it's blasting out hot air. Thanks!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome! Glad to hear the video was helpful!

  • @TrueBlueEG8
    @TrueBlueEG8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Word to the wise, if you try removing the hoses from your 20 year old heater rad, you will run into serious trouble. My advice is to buy new hose before you attempt this, and cut the old hoses off with a sharp stanley knife, dont pry or twist them off, because you will distort the metal pipes on the heater core, or break the welds/braising inside the car and fill your interior with delicious coolant, I have seen this happen several times on older cars.

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TrueBlueEG8 yup. Always cut old hardened hoses

    • @iibadsportii690
      @iibadsportii690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I feel like that happened to you lol

    • @tonycrossley2869
      @tonycrossley2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      God almighty, how I've learnt this THE HARD WAY !...

    • @billtusing2728
      @billtusing2728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just cut as much as you need to cut and peel back like an orange then you can still reuse the same hose in most cases.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iibadsportii690 well he said he's seen it happen....
      So yeah...quite the feeling there, God.

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thanks for adding the comment about pets and the sweet smelling liquid.
    Also, for everyone else, if you find it difficult to push the hose over the inlet and outlet connectors on the firewall/bulkhead (UK), use a beaker if boiling water to slightly soften the ends of the clear hose.

  • @christopherrandolph2151
    @christopherrandolph2151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chris, thanks for the video! With your guidance, and a couple of other videos on the subject, I was able to flush my heater core. It had become completely clogged. Now is putting out the heat! Thanks again!

  • @rcnitroguy9317
    @rcnitroguy9317 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Almost 8 years and chris is still making content n hes still going strong yu go chris fixit love yur video ive learned alot from u my guy n ive been working on vehicals since i was like 10 years old and that right there shows that a mechanic doesnt know everything and can still learn more tricks n tips thank you chris.

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks a lot!

  • @phantomshtter
    @phantomshtter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Just wanted to say you're awesome for these how to vids. I just bought my first 4x4 ever, I need to build this XJ up but first put some good tlc maintenance into it via everything you can teach me. I've always paid for vehicle maintenance and repairs but I'm older now, I wanna learn this stuff myself and it feels good to take care of the work myself. Hell, plus I just need all my left over dough to build this rig up. Thanks again, great vids really. Not many people understand how to present good instruction, directions and training in a straight forward, clear, precise and user friendly manner like this.

    • @123456bmx
      @123456bmx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      phantomshTTer I feel like nobody who reads this will know what an xj is...
      I loved mine,it was a 1990 renix operating system lol

  • @hypurnova
    @hypurnova 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    If your vehicle has one, check the heater control valve while your at it. If there is a lot of buildup in your heater core, your control valve could very easily be blocked/damaged which could cause a lack of/no heat as well. 👍Also, be extra careful not to accidentally bend or pinch your heater cores inlet and outlet tubes as they can be made of brass or aluminum and can be damaged easily which could result in a wicked coolant leak. Hope I helped 😊

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Xeno Phobya thanks for the tips

  • @rhensonsr
    @rhensonsr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9 years later this helped me do an 07 PT Cruiser. The inlet is the bottom and the exit is the top on PTs. Thank you Chris! Awesome job.

  • @josephmantooth7852
    @josephmantooth7852 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve watched 4 TH-cam videos on how to do this and yours is by far the best one and only one I feel like fully showed how to the complete process. Thanks

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot!

  • @creatorsservant7226
    @creatorsservant7226 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You're providing a wonderful informational maintenance service! I really appreciate it. People can save a lot of money doing some of their car maintenance themselves. Again, thanks!

  • @aliennotion2876
    @aliennotion2876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Chris costs me a fortune fixing stuff I didn't even know needed fixing.

    • @destinhook3826
      @destinhook3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @chekpoh
    @chekpoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and very educational, followed your recommendation, it fixed my heater problem in about 5min job. I took my 2004 Nissan Frontier to the dealer for diagnostic, they wanted $2700 to replace the radiator, thermostat and they were kind enough to tell me no guarantee it will fix the issue. What!!!!...thanks Chris, thanks for sharing.

  • @advent128
    @advent128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. I have the same vehicle and this problem. Chris has saved me so much money and help determine so many problems. One note, the hose adapter Amazon link takes me to a 3/8" instead of 5/8", so if you want to replicate the vid, make sure to grab the correct size

  • @GregoryAsher
    @GregoryAsher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I subscribed because the quality of your videos is good, you are very informative and appear to do your research/know your stuff. Keep making good videos so that people can continue to keep their cars in good, running condition! And thank you!

  • @jessielee1369
    @jessielee1369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was an excellent video. Well articulated, great pointers along the way, good lighting, nice volume and camera work. Just an excellent video.

  • @carlosvazquez2710
    @carlosvazquez2710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't know why Chris Fix videos suddenly were not sugested to me by youtube. I like this videos

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot!

  • @mkp3824
    @mkp3824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how I got so lucky finding this channel! I have a 1998 Ranger, 3.0L with a manual transmission. I have learned so much on this channel. I just had my radiator flushed and filled. It was good before, being that the radiator was only about 25,000 miles old, but after the flush, it gets hot, QUICK! I wonder if that helped the heater core? Anyway, having this channel is great! I found it researching how to change the dash lights, which I did.

  • @findnwanderer2156
    @findnwanderer2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you for being so thrououly easy to follow. As a girl just starting to dive into the mechanic world, your videos out of the million on youtube, have been the easiest to learn from and i apreciate it tremendously!
    Thank you.

    • @dr.s.p.
      @dr.s.p. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I fully agree with you and your comments. His videos are so clear and concise with such easy to follow instructions, photography and editing that even outshines most major documentary corporations and instructional courses. His many videos also gave me the confidence to dive in and do mechanical jobs I never would’ve dreamed I’d be able to accomplish before. This young fellow deserves the ten million subscribers (and more) and all its rewards! He’s done a truly remarkable job and it’s absolutely turned my life around in actually enjoying working on my car now and trying stuff for myself.

    • @Rosie257.
      @Rosie257. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a woman not girl, unless you are under 18. Please do not disrespect yourself and your gender by making yourself into a little girl. We don't call men 'boys'. This would be disrespectful. Ditto for women.

  • @lukekirkby5304
    @lukekirkby5304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good instructional video as always Chris. I normally will flush it both ways multiple times to help dislodge anything that may be trapped.

  • @mikemyers5972
    @mikemyers5972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you...thank you...thank you!! Saved a ton of money by being able to flush my 2012 Ford Focus heater core using your video. Heat was only blowing out of driver's side vents and I thought my entire heater core was shot. Took my time using your video and heat is back to pumping on both sides . Again...thanks!!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad the video was helpful! That's awesome!

  • @kellycrouch9576
    @kellycrouch9576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much good and simple info coming our way with your vids. Voice is easy to listen to as well unlike so many others. Thanks for making auto self-help doable

  • @timberray9572
    @timberray9572 7 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    After watching this video I flushed the core on my truck and now I got some proper heat in my truck once again, thanks Chris.

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Awesome! Glad you wont be cold this winter!

    • @kickthejamz
      @kickthejamz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ray Duerksen do you know what might be the problem with my truck? When I do the heater core flush it will only work good for a couple hours then starts blowing cold again

    • @johnlewis503
      @johnlewis503 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out this video to flush the rest of your coolant, you've probably got debris in the rest of your cooling system. If that fails look into replacing your mixing valve, could be barely working or easily clogged up stopping flow.
      th-cam.com/video/s--5ft5YiHg/w-d-xo.html

    • @kickthejamz
      @kickthejamz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Lewis my coolant doesn't have any debris in it surprisingly. But it was an easy fix to just reverse the hoses to the firewall and keep it in reverse flow all the time, so far it's been good thanks

    • @gregorykusiak5424
      @gregorykusiak5424 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roy Glass your thermostat sounds like it is stuck open. You might also have a coolant leak - which hopefully isn’t at the head gasket - so try filling/burping the system first.

  • @dr.s.p.
    @dr.s.p. ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Interesting video and as always, clear and concise instruction. That great little flush kit you Americans get for 5 bucks costs nearly $20 in the UK. When I lived in the US for 10 years I didn’t realise how lucky I was to have absolutely everything at one’s finger tips at very cheap costs (as compared to many places like the UK). Without Amazon and Ebay we wouldn’t have half the stuff available that the States have but we pay twice as much also.

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe. But you have free health care and ours kills us from the cost.

    • @cabourn81
      @cabourn81 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mjremy2605 we do pay for it though every month in our taxes, it just doesn’t come as one huge bill at the point of needing it. Either way, I much prefer our system.

    • @Mark-gg6iy
      @Mark-gg6iy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Excellent points. I am American lived in America for many years. I have returned to living in Brazil and the frustration is great. Reminds me why I left in the first place. Trying to buy anything here is a pain in the neck. I can easily spend 5 hours trying to buy a simple, generic item that could be purchased from any US auto parts store and at the end of the 5 hours here have nothing for my trouble and can't even buy it in the country online.

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mjremy2605 it’s not free. Nothing nothing is ever free. Check out their tax rates for all that “free” healthcare. Denmark pays 55.9%, France 55.4%, etc etc
      Nothing is ever free. Somebody pays, always.
      Also look into quality of healthcare.

  • @robowen11
    @robowen11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it's an old video but I followed Chris's advice and tried this. Boy did I get some shit out of the radiator. It was like brown treacle at first and took around 10 or 11 buckets before it started to run somewhat clear. At first there was barely any flow it was that bunged up. Thanks to Chris, I now have great heating, perfect for those summer days here in Australia. lol

  • @Thelegend-rl2uk
    @Thelegend-rl2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of all the similar channels here on TH-cam , I only watch Chris Fix because you are the king of automotive DIY channels as Johnny Carson was the king of late night channels. Thank you.

  • @MrGremple
    @MrGremple 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Haha, ist funny how Chris sounds bored in the old videos. Today he has way more energy in his voice. Love the videos!

    • @tygill7401
      @tygill7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s probably because jobs were a lot more tedious without his crazy collection now lol love this guy, literally taught me everything I know about car maintenance since I was in high school. So many emotions I get thinking bout him

  • @18spd4Life
    @18spd4Life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good thorough rundown of the process, well explained and demonstrated 👌🏻

  • @HomelessOnline
    @HomelessOnline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video! I managed to get this done yesterday--before I saw your video--and I flushed with distilled water, but I didn't think to fill it up with anti-freeze. I've got two more cars to go and I'll do it the way you show here, though I will continue to use distilled water.

  • @timwitter7686
    @timwitter7686 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Orbit 5/8 in. Metal Female Mender for $4.28 which is used to repair a broken home water hose. Don’t go to the plumbing parts area. You need to go to the Home water hose area to find it. It’s half of the cost of the smaller connectors found in the plumbing section. It works great to connect the home water hose to the car water hose for flushing.
    Thanks Chris, you made my first time flushing my heater core easy and clean.

  • @chrisc6874
    @chrisc6874 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Guys like you making vids save people hundreds even thousands of dollars! Keep up the good work!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Chris C thanks a lot Chris!

  • @dsent31078hooyah
    @dsent31078hooyah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey man, thanks for the video. Really helped out with my 2010 jeep liberty. Took a couple tries to get the clog out but now I have awesome heat. Thanks again keep making good videos like this for DIY people like myself.

  • @83alpinab9
    @83alpinab9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We saw quite a few plugged heater cores in the 1998 to 2005 VW Passat. We reversed flushed using a pond pump (Harbor Freight) in a bucket of CLR. Let it run overnight and you would not believe the amount of debris, rust, and crud in the bottom of the bucket. It did not take too long before we ruined the first pond pump so we attached a sump screen to the replacement pump inlet to keep the pumps from getting fouled. It was about a $1000.00 job to replace the heater core and I think we sold the "cleaning/backflush" for $250.00 including the gallon of CLR. Always got good results and was amazed at how much crud came out of the heater core. We of course would not recommend this unless there was clean antifreeze in the coolant system to begin with (already had the standard coolant flush done).

  • @user-ss6zt2mo1l
    @user-ss6zt2mo1l 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today I rinsed out my heater core on my 2006 Scion XB. Your video made it look like the guy from This Old House, where everything works perfectly. 😆. Lol. You apparently cut out all of the F Bombs. Finally got it done. My heat is HOT now. Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @elit3401
    @elit3401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice , clear and simple instructions 👌.
    Thanks , Chris.

  • @Vacublaster1
    @Vacublaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A good idea is to have the end of the clear hose in a cup of hot water before pushing it onto the firewall fitting. That will make it much easier to fit as the plastic becomes softer.

    • @waltermessines5181
      @waltermessines5181 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And much harder to remove once it's cold.

    • @401Impala
      @401Impala 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waltermessines5181 not if you pour a cup of hot water on it. Derp.

  • @procdaddy12
    @procdaddy12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this video Chris, it helped me to realize I had my hoses backwards after I did my last flush. Dumb mistake I made and you helped me fix it and return heat to my 92 ranger custom 2.3L. Thank you Chris❤

  • @ahsanrafiq8090
    @ahsanrafiq8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video , my Hyundai Atos 2007 heater was not working and was giving chilled air, after flushing with pressurised water like you did, all the scale and dirt come out of the outlet hose, now my car heater is giving hot air like a charm, bundle of thanks man....👍👍👍

  • @1keykneedeep
    @1keykneedeep 6 ปีที่แล้ว +825

    When putting your hose back in - always push it to the base. ALWAYS GENTLEMEN

    • @briancorrea524
      @briancorrea524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Yes balls deep

    • @OcRefrigeration
      @OcRefrigeration 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      😂

    • @VictoryConyers
      @VictoryConyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1keykneedeep great minds think alike 🤪

    • @dannac_8888
      @dannac_8888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Gross, not cool, this is a G-rated show. My children are watching...

    • @dateraped.1323
      @dateraped.1323 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol make sure there's no air

  • @huntergman8338
    @huntergman8338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "it tastes sweet and will kill them."
    Peta, "write the down, write that down!"

    • @jonas699
      @jonas699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly it is true. Two years ago both of our cats turned out poisoned by antifreeze probably some neighbour trying to kill rats or whatever (hopefully not the cats). Luckily one survived but since then it's sound is very different and weak.

    • @kodhii3091
      @kodhii3091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonas699 :(

    • @jordanparker8359
      @jordanparker8359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂🤣

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonas699 :(

  • @BADBOIOFBOSTON
    @BADBOIOFBOSTON 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not one to comment or like videos but you sir deserve it. My wife's Dodge Nitro heater was not working. Took it to three mechanics, one personal mechanic and two franchise. The last franchise, rhymes with dep toys..lol, they were charging 1980.00 for a new thermostat and water pump I told them the first mechanic just changed it. I told him my Friend Chris suggested to flush the heater core. Easy fix!!! 49.00 later. My family is toasty in her car. He said. Good catch by your friend Chris. Yup!

  • @prestoneditz5973
    @prestoneditz5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank God for Chris Fix.....very clear easy to see videos, well spoken easy to understand when explaining

  • @marclaw4511
    @marclaw4511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nicely explained.I had a blocked heater core which would not flush.A chap told me to put dishwasher detergent in the reservoir and run it for a couple of days.It worked a treat when i flushed it and then changed the coolant.

    • @necroodin
      @necroodin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      had a old timer tell me the same thing just the other day when working on a coolant leak

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GroovemasterOdin yea use some cascade if you ever get oil in your cooling system from a blown head gasket, works great for that too

    • @patsgarage8593
      @patsgarage8593 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      GroovemasterOdin where was your coolant leak happening when u did this??

    • @marclaw4511
      @marclaw4511 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No coolant leak just trying to get heater matrix to work.

    • @danieljackson1272
      @danieljackson1272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marc Law I used vinegar once. I poured a 16oz bottle of vinegar into the reservoir along with distilled water and ran it like that for a couple days. Clean things out really good. Drained it and replaced with coolant, of course.

  • @zedman442
    @zedman442 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great stuff, these old motors are so much easier to work on. Trying to find the equivalent on a modern car can be a nightmare. Great tips as usual Chris.

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Zed Man Thanks man!

  • @dabigboom8140
    @dabigboom8140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!
    I just did a timing belt job on my 2004 tacoma and changed a ton of other stuff too like the water pump. Which meant I had the refill the coolant, so I decided to put the old coolant back in with some radiator flush for a few days and flush it with fresh coolant.
    I flushed the new coolant, and on the test drive I noticed my heater stopped working... I had a new thermostat and everything so it could only really mean the core was clogged...
    I really didn't want to spend the time and money to change the core, especially since I just spent so much on the TB job.
    I tried this method, and sure enough some plastic bits came out along with some dirt and now the heater is working flawlessly again!
    I'm the type of lazy that likes to change as much stuff as possible that might need it while I'm already in there so I don't have to do it again.
    So you probably just saved me $600 and 8 hours

  • @cameronpapple7655
    @cameronpapple7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just flushed the heater and What a simple and easy way to fix the it.
    Thanks Chris

  • @JosephLucas
    @JosephLucas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great instructions step by step. no extra talking just straight to the point so good.

  • @MrCyruskrakow
    @MrCyruskrakow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much. I thought I might have to replace the heater core until I saw this video. Thanks so much for saving me time and money, this worked great for me.

  • @CLOWEN2010
    @CLOWEN2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TY for the video, i flushed my heater core yest because i had no heat at all, after flushing i didn’t think it worked because not much came out of it, well i was wrong, heat works now and it’s bumping at a hot 130 degrees. Keep up the good work!!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you got your heat back! Thanks a lot!

  • @JacobPeterson2014
    @JacobPeterson2014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait to try this out on my 2005 ram 2500. The heat has been only luke warm for a while now. Thanks Chris! You're videos are the best!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck!

  • @lilmomma4891
    @lilmomma4891 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This worked on my Pontiac Torrent and I finally have heat. Thank god

  • @BigGuyReview
    @BigGuyReview 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey awesome video. I have a 2007 econoline with 450 000 miles on it. The heat is a little low and I will try this. Up north here in Canada the winter can be cruel and cold! We need all the heat we can get out of these heater cores.

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big Guy Review Wow 450k miles is a lot! Nice job keeping her going! Let me know how the flush goes!

    • @BigGuyReview
      @BigGuyReview 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ya will do.

    • @JustyzzG
      @JustyzzG 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What a fucking tank. My Step-Mother has the same van for daycare children.. and it has 380k.

    • @BigGuyReview
      @BigGuyReview 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ya if you take of most any vehicle it will take care of you.

    • @papa54321
      @papa54321 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FarrukGlo CR7 Neechious Teen answer Lol And if you're not a kid it,s even worse Hahaha good luck in life with an attitude as yours!

  • @pescaenaustralia3331
    @pescaenaustralia3331 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks man, this video was very helpful. I flushed the heating core of a 20yo Echo ... The amount of gunk man... And the heating now, wow what a difference.
    Thanks again for your channel.

  • @munozinni
    @munozinni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did it to my 1988 Chevy 1500 cause not heater at all after that I got better results but I didn’t knew about the way you did it on this video and is an excellent information to know about...gracias!! 😄I already subscribed thank you!!😃

  • @ak540i2
    @ak540i2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I also give my spigot a love tap when I'm done with it.

  • @daboss59
    @daboss59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chris one thing you might want to consider anytime around any hoses if use a little WD-40 on the inlet on the inside of the hoses when you put them on the different items it'll also help with the release of the hoses later on and sometimes if the hose looks like those two on that Mazda of yours are a little bit old it might be prudent to replace them and use like I say a razor cut it off the nipple and then spray a little WD-40 that way you won't rattle the heater core and break the solder and have a leaking heater core

  • @briandawson1082
    @briandawson1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It worked! Tried to flush it from the exit first, but no luck. Reversed it and was able to flush it free. Won't be freezing this winter

  • @reidrodgers3870
    @reidrodgers3870 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All I'm gonna say Chris is, Love your videos. I'll watch one of your videos even though I have no plans on doing whatever your video is instructing. At the moment.

  • @eathanrichards6363
    @eathanrichards6363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Have i watched this 2 times. YUP! Do i need to do this. NOPE!

  • @kens97sto171
    @kens97sto171 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice video, good information. Be careful with some cars.... Some heater cores are brass... 90~97 Miata are for sure. If you try to pull the hoses off like you did, you will bend the input / output lines. once the output lines are no longer round they will often leak. Very difficult to get them perfectly round again the only way to fix it is to get a new heater core which requires removing the entire dashboard. If the car has a brass heater core I would suggest leaving it alone and doing a entire cooling system flush draining the fluid from the radiator at the bottom. And then refilling with fresh. Coolant

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      kens97sto171 Thanks and thanks for the tips!

    • @clangun
      @clangun 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      kens97sto171Just remove the opposite end of the hose & connect the fitting there that way you leave the heater core alone.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      clangun On a Miata one of the hoses goess to the back of the head, right up against the firewall.. Major pain in the butt to get to. The other runs down the side of the engine too.. I can't remeber where. Also not easy to get too. Unless the hoses need to be replaced, I leave them alone.. Again this is Miata specific. The core is brass.. And does not tend to corrode. Also it is a constant flow system.. There is no valve in the core to shut off water flow... So debris does not tend to collect in the core. More radiator. Defiantly recommend just doing a drain and flush. I've had Miata with 230,000 miles and never had a heat issue...,besides the shitty heat it came with from the factory.

    • @user-en9us6re8t
      @user-en9us6re8t 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      الخسيلاحي

  • @sbmatt
    @sbmatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. It worked. I applied your method to my 07 uplander and I now got heat.

  • @sqwjt5085
    @sqwjt5085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job. Quick and to the point explanations while you're doing the job good for you and nice camera work

  • @GDCorsa
    @GDCorsa 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great and helpful as always, merry christmas!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kallyper Thanks bud! Glad the video was helpful! Merry Christmas to you too!

  • @daisy8luke
    @daisy8luke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy crap! I have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler , and the heater is blowing mildly warm air. I looked it up and found multiple complaints on this Jeep. They had all these horror stories about replacing multiple items and costing thousands of dollars over time, but the manufacturer says the problem is casting sand. I wonder if all these people spending all that money could have just flushed out their heater cores instead of spending their life savings to make the heater work!Seriously, thank you for posting this video! I'm doing it this weekend !!!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +daisy8luke good luck! Hopefully it works! Let me know how it goes!

    • @nati2054
      @nati2054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update?

    • @adamsaquatics3332
      @adamsaquatics3332 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also patiently awaiting an update. Lol

    • @richardharris492
      @richardharris492 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      daisy8luke trust me of it were that simple you wouldn't be the first to find out, I'm sure someone attempted a flush at some point, SMH

    • @MrTHL1
      @MrTHL1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      didn't work huh? lol

  • @SpenceWellCki
    @SpenceWellCki ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Chris another great video! I’ve had my Mazda B3000 and I’m glad you show me the tips and tricks to fix mine! 🙏🏼🤙🏼

  • @thewayofbass2534
    @thewayofbass2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprisingly this actually works! My recent used car I bought barely blew warm air till a reverse flush and now at idle it blows 120 degree air. I can't have full heat on for too long now its way to warm.

  • @sglenn6
    @sglenn6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Chris! Another Great Video!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad the video was helpful!

  • @dreamsmith19
    @dreamsmith19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey, just so you know, your link to the hose adapter is for a 3/8" I.D. hose, not 5/8".

  • @opipharma2009
    @opipharma2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is one of best videos ever about this job... I think I watched it about 20 times 😍😍

  • @Rezellen
    @Rezellen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your videos. You are my first go to when it comes to car questions and solutions. Keep it up!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot! I'm glad to see the videos are helpful!

  • @davidhur09
    @davidhur09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1483

    my relationship so broken not even chris can fix it =(

    • @sirsneakybeaky
      @sirsneakybeaky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      challenge accepted
      so you need to go full chris brown, give her the mike tyson look.
      but please dont. i dont want to be sued later for this advice.

    • @highlyunlikely2349
      @highlyunlikely2349 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Use the Force

    • @seungjoon2037
      @seungjoon2037 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Koalafications4Dayz sorry to hear that. Ih the person is good, go get her or him back. If not, flush ur mind with a fresh mind to meet a better person😁

    • @Aaron-qr3tg
      @Aaron-qr3tg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      have you tried unplugging and plugging it back in?

    • @bas12345654321
      @bas12345654321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Just flush her old blood out and replace with fresh antifreeze.

  • @p3l1k44n1
    @p3l1k44n1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I did this to my old dodge aspen and the water was clear.. But then i reversed the order and pumped the exhaust port with water and inlet as an exhaust and more brown sludge came out.. then i reversed the order again and even more brown sludge.. After that it was clean tho.

    • @Dee-hi5zj
      @Dee-hi5zj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      EXACTLY my experience with a Volare (same type system) I had a 5 gallon bucket of ultra-sludge... And afterward, the heater cooked everybody in the car to a nice lobster-red!

    • @moby271
      @moby271 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You did it the right way. Chris could learn from you.

    • @ajg2040
      @ajg2040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Donny B.. Lobster red... Lmao

    • @evolutionj
      @evolutionj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      passengers cooked af

    • @ThomasFarquhar2
      @ThomasFarquhar2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ford M Garage you don't have to end every sentence with tho tho! You don't have to end every sentence with tho tho

  • @sietafak
    @sietafak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect, worked like a charm. I used 3/4" FGHT x 5/8" ID Barb Lead-Free Brass Adapter straight to garden hose and 5/8 tubing. Didn't have any of those fancy adapters ;)
    Cheers!

  • @matteobianchini4443
    @matteobianchini4443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just flushed it as in the video and heating started working like magic.
    Thank you.

  • @hugoloza9
    @hugoloza9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome! Thank you bro. I did it with my dodge journe 2010, it was really bad. Thanks!

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice!!! Glad the video was helpful!

    • @manij1078
      @manij1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My journey 2009 has luke warm heat driver side and cold passenger side think this will work for me? Thanks

    • @AussieNexus7408
      @AussieNexus7408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manij1078 yeah buddy should help just be careful to not break the barbs off the heater core 👍

  • @ian22222
    @ian22222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I watched this late last night. Apparently, I had a dream that I tried to flush my heater core, but the water was already clean! 😂

  • @rosshurlbert
    @rosshurlbert ปีที่แล้ว

    Did this today. Complete success and have heat. Thanks very much for this video. 2001 Dodge Ram.

  • @jasonhumphry5836
    @jasonhumphry5836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video I forgot about flushing the heater core fixing my leaking heater core line on a well used 2002 gmc sierra 1500 4.3 V6 with 403000 miles much respect Jason

  • @fluoridaman2332
    @fluoridaman2332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "you're mixing thing's up, you're flushing things out" lmao

  • @geopars9396
    @geopars9396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Flush it both directions. Always. And flushing the whole coolant system is highly recommended. Flushing the heater core and not the block, radiator is pointless

    • @chrisfix
      @chrisfix  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @loweredexpectations8568
    @loweredexpectations8568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another tip for everyone, I cleaned my core 2 years in a row, and this year I had to for the 3rd time. I didn't think about it either of the last 2 years, but I should have reverse flushed the block and radiator too. When I cleaned my core all three times, it looked like pepsi coming out, and it was the same with the radiator. All that gunk broke loose and went right back to the core. I live in Oklahoma where winters sometimes don't last long, so it didn't become a problem until the following winter. It probably should have been common sense to do both, but you live and learn.