This makes no sense! Stupid people trying to blame the whole organization of jehovahs witnesses! Weak ones like this one woman that said her parents went to the elders when a crime was committed and didn't report to the police? police? No wonder the woman is the way she is!.
Anyone who Google arc jws...will know it's all over the world. They wouldn't comply with reporting abuse to the authorities. Dug their heels . Australia said fine.....no tax exempt status and fines. Guess who changed their minds awful quick. Kudos to Australia and Norway.....and Belgium.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be known to the world 🌎.. everyone make plans to join the protest. This will be ground breaking. Pass the words.
@Kim Taylor You are completely misrepresenting the truth of the alleged "findings" in The (Austrailian) Royal Commission: Report of Case Study No. 29. It's interesting how you and Elle Gee flocked to a study that wasn't an exhaustive or comprehensive investigation at all, namely, they only interviewed two, yeah two victims of child abuse. Also, the report is about how the JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse, not of known cases of child abuse. It says that right on the cover of the report! So generally speaking the "report" is about how the Royal Commission disagrees with how JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse. However, as their Elder Book demonstrates, the report made an incorrect conclusion. The JWs, their parents, and the victim is encouraged to call the police immediately. However, even the Belgium article below noted that some "accusations" suddenly pop up after the person is excommunicated from the religion and retaliates by crying abuse. Regardless, the issues in Belgium and Australia differ and I WILL post links to relevant articles. Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding. The controversy surrounds ex-members filing complaints that when they are “disfellowshipped” they are shunned. Either way, the Oslo District Court suspended de-registration of JWs in Norway on January 11, 2023. (hrwf.eu/norway-oslo-district-court-suspends-de-registration-of-jehovahs-witnesses/). As you can see Elle Gee, the JWs fought the decision and they still have their religious status. So no, the Watchtower isn't squirming and they haven't changed their minds about disfellowshipping criminals. Also, I'm surprised you missed this, but the (Australian) Royal Commission report is a perfect example of Big Government meddling in the affairs of religion. You'll band together and yell and scream if government does it to any other religion. But it's OK for government to mix church and state when it applies to JWs? That's so blantantly hypocritical that it's, in fact, illegal in the US. For example, the Governing Body of JWs exercised a legal precedent that prohibites Austrailia from mixing church and state or, big government trying to meddle in religious affairs: "Familial child sexual abuse is not institutional sexual abuse, as has been acknowledged by the Commission. Similarly it is self-evident that when child sexual abuse occurs outside ‘institutional’ contexts as defined, the response to it does not fall within the Terms of Reference of this Commission: "The Commission proceeds on the basis that when an allegation of familial sexual abuse becomes known to an elder and is subsequently Scripturally investigated by congregation elders, it ceases to be familial abuse and becomes institutional abuse. This conflation of familial and institutional sexual abuse does not accord with the Terms of Reference." Anotherwords, JWs already have systemic rules and steps that are carried out when someone is "ACCUSED" of child abuse and "please butt out". Remember, the Commission's report is only about the reporting of "ACCUSATIONS", not verified cases. Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy or ignoring the accusation and even think it's made-up by JWs. Read the whole report. The Australian government's OPINION is that the scriptural guidance that ALL religions follow is "antiquated". Really? And when has big government ever been better at disseminating spirituality? The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states, New International Version (NIV) Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.” Deuteronomy 17:6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. _____ Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. _____ Matthew 18:16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ _____ 2 Corinthians 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.” ______ 1 Timothy 5:19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. _____ Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies. Again, the "two person rule" many so passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime. So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you", just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so. I have a feeling neither of you read the whole report.
@@ellegee4683 You and Kim Taylor are completely misrepresenting the truth of the alleged "findings" in The (Austrailian) Royal Commission: Report of Case Study No. 29. It's interesting how you and Elle Gee flocked to a study that wasn't an exhaustive or comprehensive investigation at all, namely, they only interviewed two, yeah two victims of child abuse. Also, the report is about how the JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse, not of known cases of child abuse. It says that right on the cover of the report! So generally speaking the "report" is about how the Royal Commission disagrees with how JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse. However, as their Elder Book demonstrates, the report made an incorrect conclusion. The JWs, their parents, and the victim is encouraged to call the police immediately. However, even the Belgium article below noted that some "accusations" suddenly pop up after the person is excommunicated from the religion and retaliates by crying abuse. Regardless, the issues in Belgium and Australia differ and I WILL post links to relevant articles. Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding. The controversy surrounds ex-members filing complaints that when they are “disfellowshipped” they are shunned. Either way, the Oslo District Court suspended de-registration of JWs in Norway on January 11, 2023. (hrwf.eu/norway-oslo-district-court-suspends-de-registration-of-jehovahs-witnesses/). As you can see Elle Gee, the JWs fought the decision and they still have their religious status. So no, the Watchtower isn't squirming and they haven't changed their minds about disfellowshipping criminals. Also, I'm surprised you missed this, but the (Australian) Royal Commission report is a perfect example of Big Government meddling in the affairs of religion. You'll band together and yell and scream if government does it to any other religion. But it's OK for government to mix church and state when it applies to JWs? That's so blantantly hypocritical that it's, in fact, illegal in the US. For example, the Governing Body of JWs exercised a legal precedent that prohibites Austrailia from mixing church and state or, big government trying to meddle in religious affairs: "Familial child sexual abuse is not institutional sexual abuse, as has been acknowledged by the Commission. Similarly it is self-evident that when child sexual abuse occurs outside ‘institutional’ contexts as defined, the response to it does not fall within the Terms of Reference of this Commission: "The Commission proceeds on the basis that when an allegation of familial sexual abuse becomes known to an elder and is subsequently Scripturally investigated by congregation elders, it ceases to be familial abuse and becomes institutional abuse. This conflation of familial and institutional sexual abuse does not accord with the Terms of Reference." Anotherwords, JWs already have systemic rules and steps that are carried out when someone is "ACCUSED" of child abuse and "please butt out". Remember, the Commission's report is only about the reporting of "ACCUSATIONS", not verified cases. Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy or ignoring the accusation and even think it's made-up by JWs. Read the whole report. The Australian government's OPINION is that the scriptural guidance that ALL religions follow is "antiquated". Really? And when has big government ever been better at disseminating spirituality? The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states, New International Version (NIV) Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.” Deuteronomy 17:6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. _____ Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. _____ Matthew 18:16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ _____ 2 Corinthians 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.” ______ 1 Timothy 5:19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. _____ Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies. Again, the "two person rule" many so passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime. So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you", just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so. I have a feeling neither of you read the whole report.
@@kimtaylor3866 Really?! That comment doesn't even make sense. LOL! A person who researched your allegations, read the latest published information on the news organization websites in Belgium/Norway, AND read the Australian Royal Commission report from cover to cover is keeping my head in the sand? On the contrary! Any intellegent person would call your comment BS. Do you really think we shake and shiver because you MIGHT know something terrorizing that we don't know? Do you really think that you are the smartest person in the room and everyone should listen to your warnings? Ok, show us the proof! Asking for written proof that I can fact check is doing the opposite of burying my head in the sand. Unlike you, I WANT to be WELL informed, not by dillusional testimonials by Ex-JWs or trolls who blindly hate something they know very little about, but by data that has been fact checked by unbiased intellectuals that actually care about other humans. Do you have any written proof to offer, anything? Even a link? I'd be glad to research it.
*I saw so much of this in my area in Loomis, California. Young boys were molested by a leader and the elders never reported to the police and families (victims) weren’t allowed to talk about it. I was hanging out with this leader as a minor and no one warned my parents. Later one of the victims when he became a late teen he was disfellowshipped against his will and he committed suicide. Many youths I knew that got shunned committed suicide. Later some of the victims put together a lawsuit and they won around 2000, but sadly not even a newspaper put it in an article. I read the public case. I too was called named by Elders as a teen, they constantly were harassing me in judicial meetings.*
@@kathleenking47 having conversations JW, it was conveyed that they don’t celebrate birthdays, but will use the coupons that are given to celebrate one’s birthday. SMH
@@kathleenking47... They do that they do because the people are willfully ignorant and get caught up with these devils because they are not seeking after the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the true, living, high and Holy God being DECEIVERS themselves... All that thirst after the true righteousness of the Holy God shall be filled... For it is written... These be the blind leading the blind... Remember the Lord Jesus warned... This is like why would one say they want BK BUT GO TO McDonald's and keep eating McDonalds and say that it is BK and it is SOOOOO good and then refuse to talk to people who say we are not eating BK and or this is not BK but McDonalds we are in!!! AMEN!!! Those who love/obey "TRUTH" REJECT LIES... ALLLLLLLL LIES OF FALSEHOOD... THIS WALK OF CHRIST AND AFTER CHRIST IS ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF RIGHTEOUSNESS... MANY GET STUCK ON THE WORD CHURCH AND HEREIN IS WHERE MANY ARE AND SHALL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND SEDUCED!!! AMEN!!! AMEN!!! ONE'S FOUNDATION MUST BE UPON THE ROCK WHICH IS CHRIST AND NOT A BUILDING BUILT BY MEN AND OR THE LIES OF FALSEHOOD... BUT ONE MUST BE A SEEKER OF THE KINGDOM OF RIGHTEOUSNESS...
@@kathleenking47... PAUL SAID MANY THINGS... BUT THERE IS NO CELEBRATION OF CHRISTMAS IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES... NONE OF THE APOSTLES "CELEBRATED" ALL THAT WORLDLY PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES TO BE "CELEBRATING" BUT CEASE TO OBEY ALL THAT IS COMMANDED AND WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES... CHRISTMAS IS A TRADITION OF DISOBEDIENCE MEN... IE PARENTS, KINFOLK WHO HAS NEVER OBEYED THE TRUE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD... THE WORLD AND THE CHURCH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ARE NOT ONE AND THE CHURCH/BODY OF CHRIST SHOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING AFTER ANY DOINGS OF THE WORLD... RECEIVED THE REVELATION...BECAUSE THERE IS A DIVIDE...AMEN!!! CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING SAID TO YOU...THIS DAY...BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD LIETH IN WICKEDNESS AND IS AT ENMITY WITH THE HOLY GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT AND HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH...SATAN IS THE "god" OF THIS WORLD AND THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS AND HE HAS MANY CHILDREN WHO DELIGHTS TO DO HIS EVIL DEEDS...WHICH ARE TO STEAL, KILL AND TO DESTROY...EVERYDAY THEY BE ON THEIR POSTS...EVERYDAY AND EVERY NIGHT...
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON DC. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be known to the world 🌎.. They must be STOPPED. PASS THE WORD.
When they say : we need to protect God,s Name is blasphemy against the Almighty GOD YHVH. WHY?? Because GOD knows their statement is not true... While Crist was here on earth he loved his people...but it came to the point when he saw all the wrong doing done by the elders inside the temple ( and probably CSA or prostitution) Crist call them vipors... Also Crist warning to all the elders and people in general is written in Matteus chapter 7. Not everyone who tells me Lord,Lord we did so many things in your name... CRIST answer: I do not know you. Stay way from me..... This is happening right now.
@@annafarago6527... THIS IS THE DAMNABLE HERESY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SPOKE OF... BUT I PRAY ALL THE POWER OF THE THRONE OF HEAVEN UPON THESE DEVILS AND MAY THE HOLY GHOST ROOT OUT ALL THIS WICKEDNESS RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWW...SATAN IS THE HEAD OF ALL OF THIS FALSEHOOD... ARE YOU HEARING THE SLANDERER SLANDERING OF HER YOUNG SOUL??? AMEN!!! HEAR ME PEOPLE AND HEAR ME WELL... THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HAS NEVER COMMANDED FORGIVENESS OF THE DEVIL, A DEVIL, DEVILS... NEVERRRRRR... HE WAS TEACHING HIS DISCIPLES TO FORGOVE AND EACH OTHERRRRRR WHEN TRESPASSED AGAINST...THOSE OF THE WORLD WERE NOT STANDING THERE... BUT HIS DISCIPLES WERE STANDING IN HIS PRESENCE BEING TAUGHT OF THE LORD... DON'T GET IT TWISTED OR LET WICKED MEN WREST THE SCRIPTURES... DON'T LET THEM DO IT... BUY LEARN OF THE WILL OF THE HOLY GOD FOR "YOURSELF" BY READING AND STUDYING THE HOLY SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF AND CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD FOR HIS REVELATION OF HIS TRUTH TO YOU, PRAY FOR TRUE UNDERSTANDING AND TO BE ABLE TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH... BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY "SEDUCERS" IN THE WORLD SEEKING TO DEVOUR ALL THAT ARE DUMB SHEEP... HAVING NO SHEPHERDS... DON'T FALL FOR ANY OF THEIR LIES OF FALSEHOOD FOR THE DAYS ARE BEYOND EVIL...
I don't know how, but someone should send this station a clip of Steven Lett proclaiming that those little ones are enemies of God, not the "precious" ones they claimed in their response.
JWS will not be able to unsee the protest on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023. Watchtower will pay for what they have done.
@@alpaphoenix3252 witnesses are some of the kits thin skinned people I know Scientologist are just as thin skinned too. They both view questions or mentioning negative history as persecution 🤣
The Jehovah's Witness Church has a dangerous "two witness rule," meaning a child has to have a second witness to the CSA. Otherwise, they would not act on the abuse/crime. This is a huge problem!
Protest Protest Protest. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. This CULT will be put on blast for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. October 31st 2023 protesters will be at the WHITE HOUSE in Washington DC. Pass the word.
Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy, ignoring the accusation, not acting on the abusive crime, and even think it's made-up by JWs. This couldn't be farther from the truth. The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states, New International Version (NIV) Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.” Deuteronomy 17:6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. _____ Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. _____ Matthew 18:16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ _____ 2 Corinthians 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.” ______ 1 Timothy 5:19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. _____ Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies. Again, the "two person rule" so many passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime. So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you" just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so.
@@joallg Joe Schmo, you're taking Matt. 18:16 out of context and its so very interesting how you hate mongers are quick to accuse and condemn. So, shame on you. Let's review Matt. 18:14-17 together as it was part of Jesus' admonision to the Jews regarding how they were to deal with each other. Jesus said, “Moreover, if your BROTHER (a Jew) commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector." Joe, as verse 17 points out, this was guidance for disagreements or “sins” that had the possibility of being RESOLVED between two persons or brothers. The principle is the same in court. You go to SMALL CLAIMS court to get a judgement by a legal judge for a dispute or disagreement with another person. Jesus’ ultimate point, though, was in verse 35, that each person should try to find it in their heart to forgive the dispute and move on for the sake of peace. However, in this forum, we're talking about CRIMES and CRIMINAL ACCUSATIONS that can NOT be settled between two people or brothers. EXTERNALLY, the elders FIRST encourage the person to call the Police or authorities to handle the criminal accusation. INTERNALLY, A CRIME IS A SERIOUS SIN and must be handled by the elders; James 5:13-15 makes the clear distinction of how we should properly react in line with God’s will. It says, “Is there anyone suffering hardship among you? Let him carry on prayer. Is there anyone in good spirits? Let him sing psalms. Is there anyone SICK among you? Let him call the elders of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, applying oil to him in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the sick one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.” This scripture in James is not the only guidance given to us regarding the handling of SERIOUS SIN such as child abuse. Furthermore, a person IS considered innocent until proven guilty. By LAW, the person has the right to defend themselves in case the accusation is false, and we know that this has happened in the past. The apostle Paul made it very clear that a convicted child abuser was to be excommunicated from the congregation and this is what JWs follow to the letter. In fact, no other religion excommuncates anyone anymore. Paul said, “In my letter I wrote you to stop keeping company with sexually immoral people, not meaning entirely with the sexually immoral people of this world or the greedy people or extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, you would actually have to get out of the world. But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.” Being that elders are the only members that can “remove” or shun a person, they conduct the INTERNAL investigation and remove the criminal. So no, Joe Schmo, you’re incorrect. We give no tollerance to any child abuser or anyone who is hardened in a course of abusing others, crimes, or serious sins. In fact, since JWs are the only organization that excommunicates such ones, where are our children really the safest in this mad world? Thus, we must allow the Police to do their job in the EXTERNAL investigation as they prosecute the person in a court of LAW. The INTERNAL investigation is started immediately as well. However, Internally, the investigation may pause until the court case finishes. Then, it may be clearer whether the “serious sin” occurred. In either case, the imperfect men try their best to determine the truthfulness of all involved and then render a fair judgement.
@@joallghe wasn't excusing bad conduct there they go twisting things again Lol he was stating that the 2 witness rule is not a "JW" rule but it's practiced even in the court of law and is mandated by scripture.
Not for long, WATCHTOWER is being protested on October 31st 2023 at the White House on October 31st 2023 WATCHTOWER will be fully exposed worldwide 🌐. Wide. Pass the word.
Then the rank and file say, we don't know anything about that. As if that let's them off. As if they get a free pass. As if they can belong to this cult and saying that they don't know, leaves them blameless.
@Heather Rants - mandated reporters have to report what they know because if it determined that they knew and did not report it, they can be held liable or allowing the abuse to continue -- the word "mandated" is the key.
@irresistible743 oh I am aware. It is literally insane and the active jw think the devil is fabricating news reports and it is all "disgruntled" former members driving it. Why are they disgruntled? Who puts themselves through this? Out of angst?
JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on. Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, and because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE on October 31st 2023. The world will know that this CULT are protecting PEDOPHILES worldwide 🌐
What a sad story. I hope Watchtowerland doesn't try to bribe this reporter to stop reporting this story. Watchtowerland are known to try any tactic that might silence this kind of news from going viral. I hope the woman gets support from the courts. It is critical that someone takes these reports seriously and actually takes action to stop these predators in Watchtowerland from hurting other children.💔 My son was married to a young woman who had been raped by her church elder/father since the time she was a toddler. Their marriage lasted about ten years. After she had a baby she had so many flashbacks about the molestation that it destroyed their marriage. We're in Canada. I know many women who were molested as children. In Watchtowerland, it's a systemic problem anywhere you go. Look at the Australia Royal Commission case study 29, for example.
Watchtower will be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE and protecting PEDOPHILES. Come join the protest and expose watchtower world 🌎 wide
When they clean up house, cause at least some in the Biden administration are involved in stuff like this and they protect the corrupt leadership of Jehovah Witnesses. They are all part of the new world order agenda, all on the same team and if this goes forward the average jehovah witness will suffer and be thrown under the bus while the leadership escapes. I mean if nothing is being done about Bidens son laptop Hunter Biden nothing will be done about the corrupt jw headquarters leadership. They are all on the same boat to bring down the united states and will try to impose their authoritarian regime. Yes, the rabbit hole is much deeper, otherwise this cult (and others) would have been shut down long time ago, the high ups in government know exactly whats going on so yeah if the swamp isnt drained this will only get worse And forget about reasoning with a fully indoctrinated witness they have been programmed not to listen to what others have to say on the subject, many are too far gone to ever come to their senses, yes the mind control is real as well.
@beauty rest : No I wont leave out politics!. U know why? Its because its precisely because of politics that were in this mess. Politics is the reason they continue to let these people get away with hiding this stuff. We can all complain and expose this as much as wen want but as long as these politics continue nothing will truly be done. My bet is they will probably fine and at best jail some of these elders that covered this up, but the religion itself will continue knocking on peoples door and will continue abusing even more victims. So if u really care about this issue, get to the root, otherwise we are just wasting time. And u should research and see they are exactly on the same team. Its not the average jw but those that run the jw business. Remember, authorities will only do what politics allow them to do.
What is it going to take to bring federal charges? This is a national crime stemming from the Governing body’s directive. I know, because I was a victim too.
Illinois is another state i know of 2 kingdom hall where they still cover up when i was a kid and the man and woman still go's to them hall's and other hall's when elders talk's and watches them if someone say something...
Join the protest in WASHINGTON DC at the white house on October 31st 2023. Watchtower will be exposed on a 🌐 worldwide level. This CULT will be exposed for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE
@@maryshaffer5675 certainly not JW, people who shunn others with biblical reason, people who doesn't provide humanitarian help. JW is a CULT and the only ones who ignores are those that are part of it.
@@dopeliffe Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades. (1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.” (2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive. (3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members! (4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on. (5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway. (6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
@@PuissantPeacock if it's not a cult try to leave without consequences, billions in the memorial? Once a year 😂 talk about the weekly basis. Cases won in court? Sure, lying and saying half-trues. And last but not least, YOU DO COVER UP child abuse to avoid "the name of Jehovah" being stained and this is done PER POLICY. Stop defending such a cult that keeps you blind and defending them with passion.
@@dopeliffe Byron, you misread my commented post. They spent billions of hours in their field ministry preaching, not their memorial. The definition of a cult is simple to find. Google the definition of "cult". You'll see that I simply copied and pasted it into my comment. Thus, it is not me or any other person that is defining a cult...except you and others posting in this forum. Just because you want to twist and redefine what a cult is doesn't mean that the rest of the educated world is going to follow suit. Case in point, everytime the news on television refers to the JWs, they call them "The JW religion". Certainly, they're intellegent people and would know "if the shoe fits, wear it" and would describe the JWs as a cult. So, it's obvious that your linking JWs to a cult is simply irreverant, hypociritical, incompetent, and petty. I mean really, those old rumors and accusations were debunked over the decades; there simply is no truth to any of them. However, those who have been excommunicated or have some chip on their shoulder, yeah! they are most willing to repeat negative albeit baseless prevarications. As for whether or not I choose to defend anyone, who are you to say anything about it hypocrit? I assert that is obviouly you that is the blind zombie who hasn't done his homework/research.
This is why you should never be alone with anyone in authority. I know men who are in authority in their churches. They will not be alone with a woman that they are not married to or related to, ever. Because they have no intention of anything happening or being accused. When a predator is about to attack, it either waits for its prey to fall behind the flock or separates its prey from the flock. That's how predators work in all churches. Parents please stop letting your children be alone with adult men they are not related to. There is no reason to do that. Ever!!!
"Stop letting your children be with adult men that they are not related to?" That's like saying, "Putting up a fence will stop all crime." The fact is, fences keep out the honest people. My 6 year old daughter was raped 5 times at the age of 6 years old by a ministerial servant who happened to be her uncle. I never even left her alone with him. We were visiting my parents in law who lived in another state, and unbeknownst to me, he was taking her out of her bedroom in the middle of the night to do this. The fact is, predators will find a way. That's why we call them predators. Stop blaming parents, the little children and everyone else you can think of. The blame lies with the child rapist and the #1 goal should be to lock them away when their wicked deeds are brought to light. Anyone who is made aware of such activity should be full force on board with turning them over to the authorities. As so many Jehovah's Witness stories go, we were told NOT to go to the authorities so as to not bring reproach on Jehovah's name and organization. Doing that could lead to us being disfellowshipped! And don't bother calling me an apostate for saying that because that is exactly what happened. 30 years later, we are still dealing with the emotional trauma of all that occurred. Your comment reminded me of something that was said from the podium when my daughter was a newborn. I loved fixing her all up in pretty dresses, ribbons and bows, little tights and patent leather shoes and bonnets. We were told that even for newborns baby girls, we need to make sure that their dresses cover their knees so as to not sexually arouse men in the congregation. I thought, "What?" If a newborn baby girl sexually arouses a man, there is something deeply wrong with that man! Putting words like that out there gives every JW man a pass for going after little children to molest or rape them. Putting blame outside of the perpetrators gives them a pass because, in the end, they know they won't be held accountable. In fact, they will be protected by the elders and anyone higher up, all the way to the Governing Body. They'll die on the alter of sealed records of criminals who ruin people's lives. You might be wondering what ever happened to my daughter's molester. Absolutely nothing! He went on to molest at least 5 other girls that I know of. I'm quite sure there are far more. He was never even disfellowshipped, and remains in good standing to this day. What's going on in Pennsylvania needs to happen across this entire country in every single state, bar none. It's time this horror story comes to an end!
@The Poor Man's Philosopher It is estimated that 93 percent of children who are victims of sexual abuse know their abuser. So yes, it could be a relative or someone they trust.
You are an apostate no point in trying to deny it...the problem with all apostates is that they know how to spin a story to make them sound more believable I don't know if your doing it out of ignorance or because you yourself have been disfellowshiped and nou you have a vengeance against Jehovah's organisation but whatever your reason might be for doing so just know that each one will be reckoned with individually. I'm not even going to entertain or debate your lie for you to say a ministerial servant raped your daughter and went on to rape several others more but nothing was done to him. The elders takes such vile acts serious from everyone of Jehovah's servants who make themselves guilty of such vile acts so for you by making that statement is enough prove to me that your lying. The question are is it worth the punishment for indirectly bringing reproach on GOD'S name by slandering HIS organisation with your lies?
She's correct. That's exactly what they do. The elders cover it up. My parents left me in a room with 3 elders when I was a teenager. They willingly trust these men with their children and then blame the victim.
JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members! JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on. Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway.
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house in Washington DC. Protest is permitted and APPROVED. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023
It will be All over the USA ,and ALL over the world. Crist is the Appointed judge for mankind including the GB. No worries we will see the fall of ALL organized religion Revelation chapter 17 e18. We believers have the responsibility to stay faithful to Almighty GOD YHVH and Crist,even without organized religion. I,m out ot WT. I read the Bible by myself. If they don't like to bad. CRIST gave his life for me nobody else did...so I don't owe nothing to WT. Thank you very much for your time.
5:50. I love how the governing body's statement doesn't need to bring attention to ANY other group besides them at this moment, but they don't miss a second in trying to take the light off of themselves by implying that other religions are just as guilty as they are. Interesting how behind the scenes, they know the real truth, that they're no different than any other religion.
I was an elder from 1985-1994 and thankfully never had to deal with such case. I feel so ashamed that I was an elder and could have been part of such a cover up. I’m glad I’m out.
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the white house. This CULT needs to be STOPPED. Exposing their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be brought before the entire world. Go to: be free 2023. Its time to wake up everyone about this DOOMSDAY CULT. Pass the word
0:54 Very Cultic, since all other religions celebrate birthdays, even could vote ....they dont follow what Paul said about it. It's a choice, but they treated it like adultery..with the disfellowshipping
Interesting. I would conclude that you're a turn-coat, a traitor, defector, deserter, betrayer. Judas Iscariot did the same thing. Doug, of course you would never be part of a cover-up. The overwhelming majority of JWs would never be part of one either. All of you "woke" kids think you bettered yourself but only succeeded in becoming a traitorous deserter. That's a stain that will never wash out. Besides, nothing they do fits the definition of a cult. Just because an organization doesn't follow the crowd or what everyone else is doing doesn't make them a cult. When has the "crowd" been right about anything? A whole crowd of Jews condemned Jesus to death as the hypocritical religious leaders lead the false accusations. Did that make them ALL correct and thus Jesus and his teachings a cult? All throughout history, the Catholic church, aka the "crowd" or numerous religion, engaged in bloodshed on a grand scale. Does that make them correct and the rest of us a "cult"? Of course not. Vanessa Whetstone is correct. These cases are not the "Norm".
Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades. (1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.” (2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive. (3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members! If you all want to at least sound intelligent, stop calling them a cult. Geez!
@@PuissantPeacock lol still a cult. 6 million members compared to billions of people on earth is a small number. Yes they don’t focus on 1 person but 1 group (the govern body) who claimed they are the faithful and discreet slave. Sounds culty to me. Also, false prophecy’s 1975 and before then. Dogmatic beliefs that are extreme in some cases such as shunning, not celebrating Mother’s Day, birthdays etc. They give more attention and idolize the organization than God
Watchtower will be exposed on October 31 2023. For their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. A protest will take place in Washington DC at the white house. Pass the word. Exjw Diaries just did a video on the protest.
This needs to go Nation wide, other states need to take notice asap. My mom is PIMI she let slip to me that the "elder's room" (meeting room where files are kept and judicial committees meet) was being renovated and cleaned out. To me this says they are destroying files because they know what's happening n PA and other states are covering their tracks before they are under investigation too. As much as I would love to see the WTBTS hit hard with it's world wide CSA cover-ups, I think they are already taking steps to ensure that doesn't happen.
If they are destroying the files they also can be accountable for a felony and go to jail... May be in same cases it's impossible to know all the details in every case. No worries if they do that the situation for them will complete destruction by CRIST.... Why? Crist is the Appointed judge for mankind including the GB.... Jehovah GOD is a God of justice... He may allowed corroption to go on for awhile to test the faith of elders... but at the right moment He will have the meanings to bring everything to light. This religion started in Pennsylvania.. Right?? and is exactly in Pennsylvania that the Judgment by GOD is starting. Coincidence??? No ...Crist the Son of GOD YHVH knows every detail about this situation. I was a JW for 47 years. WT betrayed me. I do not trust them. I,m out... But still Fallow the teacting of CRIST. Stay faithful.. The end must be near.
No, don't listen to the trolls (like Maria Nunes) who are not privy to truthful information. They're not destroying the files. They're scanning them and uploading them to their new database system which is connected to the US Branch. Another words, they're going as paperless as possible.
Glad this is being investigated by the authorities. It was the parents responsibility to go to the police! They were not told not to. Does the mandated reporters law of Pennsylvania not without question include her parents? Why was he “legal guardian”? The witness rule was enough to get him banned from the congregation, so an elder would never! call a child that, while immediately believing her, calling headquarters, putting the bad one out, putting him on blast to the congregation, maintaining a record that will follow him worldwide, and making sure he will never serve again or be around children-a lot was done-no matter how much one ‘hates’ their religion, that doesn’t add up. Who said that then? Magazines have also been published for decades on how to keep kids safe; worship is never isolated. And who is forgiven will be decided on judgment day…is the mother who didn’t contact authorities okay??
JW Org is a mind controlling cult. I am so glad this woman came forward. Shame on her mother. JW org meant more to her than her daughter. The mother has committed also a sin. I wish this woman all the beset in the future, stay strong, you have done nothing wrong as a child, it was this evil organization and your family who abandoned you. I hope the her abuser is sent to jail, including the elders. She should see her mother and the JW org for every penny.
Pursue this into other states. People, petition your local officials if u know of something like this in your area, we need this to happen in every state here in the united states, that is we need these Jehovah witnesses investigated everywhere, they are all covering this stuff up in congregations
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house. Join the protest. Pass the word. Watchtower's covering up child SEXUAL abuse is over. The world will know. Go to: be free 2023
@@tammyg8031 Yes. Im aware of that upcoming protest. Trying to spread the word on it in fact so hopefully this gets alot of attention, we should do what we can to involve as many as posible. We need to make it clear this abuse in this cult needs to stop.
@@vinnyrodriguez2699 Vinny thanks. Please the website on all your social media platforms. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. These con artists are facing their last days. Thanks for your help. Do you have a channel?
@@tammyg8031 I currently dont, since im still in what they call the pimo stage, just basically cause my mother is very sensitive towards the org. She wont tolerate the least bit of negative mention toward her precious governing body and organization, but I am sharing info (without her knowledge) to others and exposing whats going on in the congregations. There was even a store were they used to set up their carts that kicked the witnesses out because of the info I shared so im working and educating people as much as i can and even though many witnesses in the area know about this going on no one has come forward to the elders and singled me out, ive kept it secret as much as posible. My wife doesnt even know either, but i will share it with her once i know she becomes a pimo. Right now she is in what we would call (physically in, mentally questioning). So still working with that.
@@tammyg8031 And yes, I hope these are their last days. Im sick and tired of this abusive cult getting away with their crimes and hipocresy. Ive even gotten to the point were Ive almost just told my mother but managed to hold back just because I know how indoctrinated she is and I fear giving her a heart attack or something if I told her. The damage it does to peoples minds is beyond evil. I know my wife would not get an attack if i told her but my mom likely will. My mom is one very pro Jehovah witness organization, governing body person. She has even stated if they told her to jump off a cliff, to just hand over everything she owns to watchtower she would do it no questions asked. And yes she follows and does every stupid thing they say to do i am 99.9% sure she will never wake up.
Sexual and domestic abuse have been protected by the elders for decades! We have thousands of stories to tell worldwide! Why is this behavior allowed when it is illegal and immoral??
@DBecker Would you care to provide us all with proof of your allegations and opinions? What evidence, if any, proves that abuse, of any kind, has been protected by the "elders" for decades, beyond just you repeating testimonials and your biased opinion...?
@PuissantPeacock; have you not watched any of the videos of the Australian Royal Commission investigating charges of child sexual abuse (CSA) perpetrated by some members of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult? Sexual abuse against children has happened, and still does. Wake up and see the truth.
Watchtower will be exposed & protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE is over. The entire world 🌎. Will know what this DOOMSDAY CULT has done. Go to: be free 2023
@@isaacarellano5118 Yes it is. Jehovah's Witnesses are listed as one of the top ten cults in America. Do your research. The leadership are false prophets. No true religion would be enablers of PEDOPHILES and COVER up CSA. CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL HIMSELF WAS A PEDOPHILE. WAKE UP
@@isaacarellano5118 it actually is, go in and look at the BITE model for a cult. JWs fit it to a T. Who wants to think/know that they're caught up in one it's difficult to realize and examine it.
Absolutely a cult. They use methods which are recognised as those used by cults. Such as: Information control. Control over who members can socialise with. Shunning and disfellowshipping. Strong inside group mentality vs outsiders. Demonisation of outsiders. Compulsive need to recruit new members.
The leadership is responsible. This is their opportunity to tell the truth, take responsibility and apologize. Pay restitution to the victims/families and make necessary changes to their policies. When a child has the courage to speak about the abuse they have endured, we should believe them. They need love and support and especially validation that what they went through was horrible and traumatic. What has watchtower done to help the survivors of csa? Can Jehovah’s Witnesses tell me of any instance where the police were called by an elder? Some people say it’s the parent’s responsibility to call police. But what if it’s your dad that’s abusing you? A child should be able to approach a religious leader for help
Jannet, please check in TH-cam the Australian Royal Commission with Geoffrey Jackson. He is part of the Governing Body and appears there. He acknowledged the massive abuse problem inside the religion.
Please be nice to Jehovah's Witnesses and don't go yelling at them or slamming doors. Most of them have no idea that this is even going on and their leaders tell them that media reports such as this are "satanic lies." But the problem is very real. So if you meet a JW, be nice, and also advise them to do their own research on what's going on in their own religion. Also, the Governing Body is lying when they said that the "two witness rule" doesn't apply to crime. While they may have changed their policies recently, this video showed the "elder's book" pre-2015 where it indeed enforced the "two witness rule" regardless of sin or crime. What they need to do is apologize, not blame victims.
Watchtower is going to be protested for their child SEXUAL ABUSE cover ups on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE. Pass the word. This is a big ground breaking protest against Watchtower.
Jehovah witnesses know what goes on. But, even if they don't whose fault is it that they refuse to look on line of the accusations and court cases. Refuse to check into the Australian Royal Commission findings. Whose fault is that? Do Jehovah witnesses get a pass because they are stupid? Their ignorance is a choice that they make, if they don't know. I refuse to be "nice" to them. I tell them exactly what they are. Ignorance is no excuse. I don't care how you want to cut it. If they don't know they certainly should know! And that is on them! If they support the corruption, then they are part of it. They are compliant with it. They are NOT nice people, and I treat them as such.
@@jimbobaggans1564 Have you been a JW and know what it's like to be told that anything contrary is the devil and they will lose their life for so much as doing the research? I know how that felt and it took me 2 years to break the indoctrination. You will not reach them by being aggressive. By all means, tell them what's going on but realize that they are victims too.
That may be so but I told my sister and she just covers her ears and says I don't want to know .They think all people besides them are evil 😂 literally!
@@karenmoody2763 They are literally told to turn off the TV if a negative news story comes up. Because of that, almost no JW's know that their US spokesperson is Robert Hendriks because they usually turn off the TV even if their religion is mentioned at all in case things could turn negative.
Criminals Need Too Pay For There Bad Deeds. I Grew up There. But That Was a Really a Long Time Ago. 70 years. Ago. Many Things I Hear about. I Never Seen or Heard Of. If They Did. These Things. Too Humans. They Went Too Jail. Or. Prison. And We’re Kicked Out. ,And. A Man Had A Bible’s Study With a Man And A. Woman Would Have a Bible Study With a Woman. My Father Said. Back The. If You Notice. They Start Changing. there Though on Different Things. Some. Thing. Is Very Wrong. Go On. On Who are Running. Some Places. This Was Talked About Way Back Then 😮 There’s a Lot of Good People out There Still And The There The Wicked. 🤫
@@tammyg8031 Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades. (1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.” (2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive. (3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members! (4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on. (5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway. (6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
Im an exJW. I was never molested by anyone in the congregation but I can attest to the group/cult-think that happens there. They are primed to listen and be followers making an easy environment for this kind of thing to happen. So, a predator can easily do whatever he/she wants there and if you know the rules you can use loopholes to keep yourself in good standing while victim takes the blame. It is true I was 3rd generation JW and I know how they operate. Im so glad that I am no longer with them. Unfortunately my family is not allowed to associate with me because I have not returned to the religion. I am sick, got diagnosed with an auto immune disease and deal with so much pain. none of them check on me. I can barely walk at times. My mom checks on me about every 3 months. Even tho she does not associate with me she at least said she won't see me hungry or homeless. Many others like me get disowned by their parents. It's an passively abusive environment
Nicky, we validate and appreciate the pain you are enduring. Your biased opinion of the environment in the congregations, though, cannot be taken seriously. What proof do you have that ALL congregations, and thus the whole organization, is corrupt and allows predators to flourish? You know as well as I do that if a "predator" is discovered, and they are guilty, they are disfellowshipped immediately AND reported to the Police. If you mean that they keep their criminal activities a secret, then Nicky, that happens in ALL religions, groups, even FAMILIES! So to make a huge jump in logic and condemn EVERYONE as being morally corrupt, that they don't genuinely care deeply for their children and loved ones, and everyone tolerates even the slightest wrongdoing is an outright prevarication. The truth is that you were disfellowshipped and your butt hurt over it. That's truthfully why your family doesn't associate with you. They determined that YOU are a corrupting influence on the clean congregation and thus shun your ASSOCIATION, not cut you off completely. You admit that your mother checks up on you every three months. That right there proves your opinion incorrect; they didn't "disown" you. Your family does still care for you as proven by your mother and anyone in the congregation, including the elders, ARE ALLOWED to attend to any dire emergencies you have. But, they're not going to compromise their love and loyalty to Jehovah and his standards and associate with a person PROVEN to have been a corrupting influence in the congregation. That's the clear, truth of the circumstances you are in. But your situation proves exactly what JWs do to "potential" corrupting influences. It helps PROTECT the members, the children, and those that wish to fight imperfection and do what's scripturally right with the only motivation but to please Jehovah. Other religions don't even bother excommunicating corrupting influences are thus reaping the horrendous consequences of their error. Still, you well know as well as I do, you have the choice to follow the Internal rules, turn around, and clean up what you have done in the past. Once you do, everyone will be excited and glad to associate with you again.
@@PuissantPeacockit’s the “are allowed” part that puts your entire comment into a cult environment. Nobody she have to be allowed or not allowed by somebody else to do something…especially when it comes to reporting criminal activity.
@@stevendurand1987 Really Steven? LOL! You're going to entitle yourself to take issue with ONE phrase? Hypocrite! Can you not come up with anything better than that? My statement is a general social statement that gives every person of freewill the "allowance" of their opinion, their position on a matter (social or political), and the right to speak that opinion. On the other hand, as in cases like yours, when opinions infringe on the rights of others, are not factually based, or disparage or defame another's characer without proof, it becomes a religious hate crime at varying levels. This principle also applies to anyone who is a member of the JW organization or a person who chooses their own path Steven. No one forces, coerces, or uses fear to MAKE a person be a JW and all of the hate mongers on this channel are proof of that; they chose to leave (those that left JWs). If their conscience bothers them due to their decision, then that is on them. Regardless, if you want to use different words than “are allowed”, how about, "They have the choice", or how about, "They are entitled to..."? Trying to word-trap me or take issue with a phrase is simply childish, over-reaching, and incompetent and doesn’t prove anything about a cult. I asked you for PROOF that your opinions were accurate, not for you to moon-light as a grammar school teacher and grade my paragraph. So far, Steven, you have produced no proof, just erroneous opinions which, quite frankly, no one cares about.
@@PuissantPeacock you have lost touch and I will pray that you wake up one day. You spin circles around yourself and are programmed to not take accountability. Good luck on living life that way. Armageddon nears.
*Loomis, California CONGREGATION the little boys were being CSA in the kingdom hall bathroom in the 1990s the elders HID the abuse and one of the boys committed suicide too, after the elders SHUNNED & Disfellowshipped (organized hate) him later as a teenager (Timothy Clark) and a vew of the victims sued the Watchtower and WON Their case. The elders SHREDDED and destroyed documents from CSA case, because there is videos and instruction from the corporation to do that. Sadly the local cities wouldn't even put this shocking case in the local newspaper and this church is still sitting at parks trying to recruit their youth and the same elders still hide abuse.*
And according to the theology and they're bad rules you have to have two people as a witness and they will not go to the police..! Call DCF on every kingdom Hall
And your written proof of lying, cover-ups, and not reporting crimes is......where? You're repeating disinformation as if it is your "authoritative" source and, in fact, would take more faith to believe your twisted interpretation of the facts. Any intelligent person would know you're making a fool of yourself by suggesting that YOU have all the "facts" and the authorities, police, and prosecutors are completely powerless to stop such alleged crimes. I call BS. Again, you misrepresent the facts: the most recent Shepherd book DOES have the direction that they are to contact the authorities first and not try to handle the matter themselves. Second, 4 letters were sent giving them specific direction on how to handle sex cases. You are not privy to such information as you are obviously not part of the organization. You really think we, the public, are going to believe you over information obtained right from the source and the police? There is no conspiracy or pattern to cover up anything. It's downright foolish for you to suggest otherwise as the laws and law enforcement is robust in Australia, the US, and other countries. This type of crime is happening all over the world and is obviously being handled appropriately and aggressively as your narrative demonstrates. The one principle that the JW's do uphold is a right that you may have forgotten, and that is, "A man or woman is innocent until proven guilty." Thus, if a woman lashes out at you in anger and unjustly accuses you of rape, you suggest they immediately arrest you and send you to jail? NO! You want your day in court to prove your innocence! You fail to see the ultimate truth right in front of your face; the JW's would have no freeness of speech in their ministry, they would have no right to have children (because they allegedly cover up sex crimes and put their children at risk), and their organization would be shrinking fast if they practiced such "cover up" crimes. Your stories are old, come from Troll websites, and have no written or factual proof to support your allegations. I too can search the internet and find ISOLATED cases of sex crimes within the JW's but they are ALL being prosecuted according the right that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. Please knock off all the disinformation that you're trying to mold into some form of truth. It's nauseating, troll-like, and only makes you look like a gullible fool. The police will handle the prosecution of any and all perpetrators of sex crimes no matter if they happen in the congregations of JW's or in other religions around the world. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
I knew the JWs were a shady cult when my cousin who already had 4 adult children decided to convert to the religion and then marry a man who was already into it, and they (the JWs) told her that her 2 adult daughters couldn't be involved in her wedding because they were not JWs. They wouldn't even let her daughter's help plan her wedding shower! Only her granddaughters who were about 4 and 6 years old at the time were allowed to be in the wedding party. The bridesmaids didn't consist of any non-JW friends or family members. The wedding shower game was so cringy because when it came to the "Who knows The Bride Best Best" game, none of the JW women who made up the questions really knew any of the answers to the questions because they really didn't know my cousin that well because she didn't know the man for a long time before she married him- UNLIKE HER OWN DAUGHTERS AND FAMILY who would have made up relevant questions and obviously would have known all of the answers to the questions.
You misrepresent the facts to make yourself look like the righteous one. They couldn't be in the wedding party because your cousin and her husband wanted to get married in the Kingdom Hall. Even Catholics require that both marriage mates be Catholic in order to be married in the Church. If they held their wedding in a hall or elsewhere, then everyone and anyone could have been in the wedding party. They made a choice. And no, you're wrong. Anyone can help plan a wedding shower and even be present at the wedding in the Kingdom Hall no matter what religion they are!
@@PuissantPeacock lol. "Even" Catholics. Even? Is your bar set so low on such similar media matters? BTW what you said ref marriage of them is untrue. Hilarious comment language tho!
@@melsili6518 Mel, you're so ready to dish out insults and abuse then know this, I use Catholics as only ONE example because they are one of the largest religions in the world with a reported large number of members. Thus, they tout themselves as being the "truth" and "their high numbers of members prove this." (Personally I don't agree, but that's irrelavant). It's interesting that you say "Catholics" and "bar set so low" in the same sentence. That insult is on you. Regarding the "rules" regarding getting married in a Kingdom Hall within the JW religion, please provide us with proof, any proof, that my retelling of the guidelines is "untrue." All one has to do is know the scriptural principles that speak on the subject of marriage such as "Marry only in the Lord." Nearly ALL religions follow this simple principle which, just by itself, suggests that the wedding party be of one faith. That way, both marriage mates are pulling in the same direction. If you can only compare comment language to your own, please, share with us how much smarter you are and, of course, what your source material is. Remember, it's easy to sit back and make baseless allegations and assertions. But it is you trolls that are spreading disinformation both purposely and incompetently by commenting such blather in these news stories. Let's see your written, fact checked proof.
..........I FEEL SO 4 U 😢......NO ONE ESPECIALLY A CHILD 😇 SHOULD EVER B A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ABUSE!!!.....PLEASE DONT HATE JEHOVAH GOD 😇......HATE THE ONES WHO HURT U!.......BIBLE TEACHES 2 LOVE WHAT IS GOOD.....HATE WHAT IS BAD.......I HATE THESE MEN IN SPADES 🤬👺👹!!!....STAY STRONG WOMAN....U WILL HAVE YOUR DAY IN COURT........AND WIN 😇!!!......GO WITH JEHOVAH😇!!!.......😎
I was an inner city teacher for a JW principal. She was a pastor at the church. She was a racist, disorganized egomaniac . She literally turned folks AWAY from God. She left a most acid taste in my Christian mouth. God HELP her and all the children under her care.
@@kathleenking47 Uhh, where did you get your disinformation from? JW's adamantly believe in Christ Jesus. Just because they know who Jehovah is and what the correct role of Jehovah and Jesus Christ is doesn't make them "non-Christian".
Women are not allowed to be a “pastor” or any kind of leader as one of Jehovah’s witnesses. Only men. It is a Christian faith, believing in Jesus. I was raised a JW and left when I was 24. I have strong feelings against the religion, but if you’re going to give a negative depiction of them @teresadragstream8648 , at least get your facts right. 🤡🙄
Please Please !!! Find and prove who is responsible (no doubts) ‼️‼️ Then "THROW THE BOOK" at them !!!! Let prison "justice" take over ‼️‼️ Worked for Epstien !!!
No, of course not. Let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades. (1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.” (2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive. (3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members! (4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on. (5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway. (6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
@@PuissantPeacock WOW!!! A really long reply to defend the jw but no empathy towards that victim or victims of csa in the jw. Your reply sums up everything rotten in the jw as you have clearly demonstrated that the reputation of the organisation is more important than the members. And also your definition of a cult is disingenuous because it has nothing to do with what you believe in its how the members are treated, you mention nothing of coercive controlling behaviour, emotional manipulation, punishment and reward, isolating people from their families to control members behaviour, all of wich are common in jw which makes it a CULT.
@@nick281972 Nick, no one really cares if you judge the facts to be "rotten" and to think otherwise is just human narcissism. My comment was obviously not an attempt to address ALL of the suffering of the thousands of victims. Attacking my comments like that is just the strawman's argument and makes your comment irrelevant. Again, you accuse the JW's of "manipulation" and other baseless lies and produce no proof of your assertions. No, one does not have to defend the JW's, they defend themselves just fine. ANY religious organizaion is continually threatened by you mindless zombies that repeat erroneous disinformation with all the emotion of a toddler. This kind of dark and mindless reasoning is what lead to the Nazi concentraton camps and the most horrendous religious hate crimes the world has ever seen. How many mosques, churches, and kingdom halls have to shot at, bombed, and burnt down before you wake up and see you're part of the problem! Every religion has a form of excommunication, even the Catholics! But they don't enforce it and thus their religion is full of pedofiles and sexual criminals. JWs don't put up with that crap and excommunicate the criminals immediately when they are caught. How could you miss such an obvious and viable solution to a prolific criminal problem?! So what if it isolates the criminal from family members! If the person just refuses to change their ways to doing what is good, yeah, remove them so they don't spoil the whole group! You see, your emotionalism and misplaced sorrow is exactly why society continues to get worse! Nick, the "cult" definition I posted wasn't MINE! Good grief! Google cult and you'll see the exact definition in front of your face! It's you and uneducated pharisaics who think they can bend and twist JWs around their own personal definition of a cult. Nobody takes you seriously as evidenced by all of the news networks and other media. They don't ever refer to JWs as "the cult of JWs", they always refer to them as the "religion" JWs. I mean come on people, these rumor-based and baseless accusations have been around for decades and have already been debunked!
@@PuissantPeacock Then pleas explain the two witnesses rule? Because if someone came to me and said they had been raped or sexually abused I would report it to the authorities not ask for a witness.
@@nick281972 Correct! As your first comment suggested, for JWs who have all the same feelings and love for their children like we do, they excommunicate pedos and criminals immediately! And they really mean it as evidenced by all the excommunicated whiners who cry over being shunned! On the other hand, the two-witness rule is, in fact, a Bible principle on which our criminal courts base our rights. The specific scriptures are: New International Version (NIV) “...testimony of two or three witnesses.” Deuteronomy 17:6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. Matthew 18:16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 2 Corinthians 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.” 1 Timothy 5:19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. As you can see, both accusations and convictions are addressed. JWs have "Internal" rules and yet also abide by all of the "External" government laws which is also scriptural (Rom. 13:1). The issue surrounding the "two witness rule" is an "Internal" manner of handling an ACCUSATION of child abuse or other crime, including serious immoral wrongdoing (e.g. adultry, pedofelia, etc.). The elders or older men are instructed to immediately encourage the person and their parents to go to the police IMMEDIATELY if the victim and parents feel the accusation has merit. They don't have a crystal ball and they are not trained investigators or policemen. Thus, they next intiate an INTERNAL investigation which is governed by the same principles that our criminal code is based, namely, that one of two elements must be met for a person to be FOUND GUILTY of the crime. (1) there must be two or more witnesses (or a confession) to the crime or (2) there must be one witness with overwhelming circumstantial evidence in order to CONVICT the person. The punishment is always the same; excommunication which the JWs call disfellowshipping. The person is shunned by JW family members and the congregations of JWs, which is also scriptural. It's done that way to lovingly get the person to think about their attitude(s) and actions and hopefully come to their senses. But, MORE IMPORTANTLY, it keeps the congregation and their families safe from known, active pedofiles and any dangerous infuence, both morally and criminally. But again, many people don't stop and realize that our rights in criminal court is based on this scriptural principle. The EXTERNAL investigation should be initiated by the parents and or the victim. However, the laws in the US state that a person who is aware of a crime, or even the accusation of a crime, must report this to the authorities at once. On the other hand, some victims state that they made the accusation of child-abuse as a child and no one believed them and/or it was "swept under the carpet." That is the nearly impossible scenario to deal with because none of us can see into people's hearts or into the past and determine, for a certainty, that the person is innocent or guilty. Thus, just like in groups all around the world, some get away with it for a time but then are exposed later. Thus, no one gets away with it forever; death will even consume that person eventually. But, we should not condenm entire organizations based on human, and sometimes parental, imperfection, errors made by a few, and man's inability to execute perfect and immediate judgement and appropriate punishment. None of us, no mater what group or religion or organization we're in can provide perfect justice for both sides of a criminal matter. It's directed to and given to the authorities to handle. Even then there may not be enough evidence for the police to convict the perpetrator. That kind of scenario is sad to watch and impossible to reconcile.
I have family that I love very much who have not been allowed to have a relationship with them because we are "Of the World." Their lives have been totally The Watchtower Society.
That has nothing to do with JW as an organization. If they told you that, it is because it was their choice. All we are asked to do is to be mindful, to avoid people, who are bad company. But that's all. I do maintain several friendships, some very close, to people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact, in our congregation (and it is NOT an exception), there are various sisters and brothers, who are married to non-witnesses. While that's not encouraged because of obvious problems it can cause, there is nothing wrong with it either. So, once again, if someone would rather not have contact with you, it is their choice, or, if it is a minor, their parent's choice. But it's certainly not a rule.
I was one Jehova Witnesses and I stop by myself to be one of them cos can’t keep the clean steps with them. I can’t agreed with you. Maybe you wanted and you had sex and that’s not tolerated in congregation. So if JW are molested kids mean your parents too? You know better if you want to have sex must be with your partner and that mean you to be married. I never see people so pure like JW and be there for you helping without asking noting in return. How many JW helped in war, with good to build against people houses , and helped with care? Ans not helped just JW but their neighbours too. All my respect to all JW which dedicate their time to talk about God and teach people the Bible. They never turn against me once I step back , no prelude no molestation no abuse . They are against all these kind of immoral acts . Their life their life in peace , they are full of love and compassion. All my respect to them and to all people from different religions who talk about God and try to respect his will. Why you talk about it and don’t talk about jehova ? Where is your love? None forced you to be one of them or to stay but they will not tolerate anyone in any congregation who has a double life pretending to be Christian ans the other side smoke get drunk having sexual contact with different partners. God is love and who loves God never talk bad about people who believe and show it . I’m sorry for you feel just disgrace for all lies
Luke 8; 16 No one lights a lamp and covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, he sets it on a stand, so those who enter can see the light. 17 For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be made known and brought to light.
@Puissant Peacock; how about videos of the Australian Royal Commission investigating accusations of sexual abuse against children of the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in Australia, if you want proof of sexual abuse in that cult?
The Elders are lying. It's allowed during occasions such as this. It is called theocratic warfare. Main idea, we have to keep Jehovahs name in the clear. Protect the organization.
Watchtower will pay for what they have done. October 31st 2023 Watchtower will be exposed & protested at the white house in Washington DC. Pass the word.
LOL! No religious organization could have such a criminalistic policy J.L. Theocratic warfare is a bit different than your personal defintion. What is Theocratic (Spiritual) Warfare? “When the apostle Peter used his sword against the slave of the high priest, Jesus told him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52, 53; John 18:10, 11) Jesus thus made it plain that theocratic warfare from that time on was not to include the use of fleshly/physical weapons. Later when he was brought before Pontius Pilate, he reiterated this point by anwering Pilate's question as to whether or not he was a King, “If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight.” (John 18:36) Years later, the apostle Paul, under inspiration, wrote in his letter to the Ephesian congregation that spiritual warfare was against the “spiritual” organization of Satan, which has dominated and controlled the earth for centuries. (“We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”-1 John 5:19). Paul stated quite clearly, “Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.”- Eph. 6:11, 12. Then, in his letter to the Corinthian congregation he wrote, “The weapons of our [spiritual] warfare are not fleshly,” he said. “For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God.”-2 Corinthians 10:4, 5. It’s clear by this evidence that your definition of theocratic warfare is incorrect. Jehovah can defend his reputation and protect the organization completely without the aid of humans. A true Christian's fight is against false relgion and those who minds have become bankrupt of Truth, accuracy, and the building up of others. JWs motivation is thus to keep themselves from becoming a victim of Satan, becoming disloyal, and loosing the ability to reflect the fruitage of God’s spirit. Furthermore, if we love our God and want to please him, then a JW will strive to never bring reproach on God's name. But don’t misunderstand. Jehovah has big shoulders and can handle anything humans throw at him. It's simply an opportunity for humans to show our deep love for him.
The big problem is these pedophilers never were turned over to the law. All offensives handled in house with a so-called judicial system of members where most members only have a high school education or less.
I am 71 years old n am a witness for more 50 years n I have never heard child abuse or sexual abuses being covered up.This may be isolated case n am sad to hear about it.
I use to think like that to , a JW for 35 years. But if something is covered up, well, that means things are going on with out most people knowing, doesn’t it? I was shocked when I learned about the thorough investigation in Australia, 1006 perpetrators and over 1800 victims among the witnesses. The elders knew and not one of these perpetrators were reported to the authorities. And it’s not apostate lies. It’s all there in the report www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/file-list/Case%20Study%2029%20-%20Findings%20Report%20-%20Jehovahs%20Witnesses.pdf
The Kingdom Hall that I went to as a child back in the 60s I saw children being taken in the parking lot and getting whipped in front of everyone and everyone turned blind eye. What I remember the most about our Kingdom Hall is that the adults were having affairs. They'll do anything to protect their God's name, but they're just doing whatever they want behind the scenes. Steven light reminds me of the guy from Heaven's Gate many similarities
The country town I lived in your nextdoor neighborhood would whip your bottom until it was red ..what remember most was to be honest and have integrity
There IS NO QUESTION about it. It DOES HAVE A HISTORY. Now it's just a matter of proving it! It sickens & angers me when they make those statements where they voice the moral high ground because they have and continue to cover up CSA. So Grateful to all the brave people who are coming toward. It takes a great amount of courage to come forward and speak about this type of abuse but even more so when it happens within this organization!
Have a family member that married a Jehovah Witness whose goal was to prey on teenage girls. Now this guy is physically and mentally abusive? does drugs, doesn’t work and no longer participates in their services. But my family member has to stay with him and never remarry with the threat of getting disfellowshiped. Imagine an organization that would rather have a victim harmed than taking a stand against the perpetrator.
Protest Protest Protest. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. On October 31st 2023 watchtower will be exposed for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. The entire world 🌎. Will know what this DOOMSDAY CULT is doing. Watchtower is human and sex trafficking through their so called RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION. The world will know now. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023. Pass the word
The group was originally referred to as the Bible Students due to not having a formal name, and founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell, who also co-founded Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881, to organize and print the group's publications. After Russell's death, a dispute over who the group should now follow resulted in several quasi-groups breaking away, with Joseph Franklin Rutherford retaining control of the Watch Tower Society and its properties. Rutherford made significant organizational and doctrinal changes, including adoption of the name Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931 to distinguish them from other Bible Student groups, symbolize a break with those who wanted to follow Russell's traditions, writtings, and thinking, and instead emphasize following Jehovah rather than a man (Russell). All of these other groups either rapidly fell apart or, over the years, dwindled to only having a few dozen adherents remain. Now the only recognized organization is the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm a 3rd generation who left. They move the Pedophiles around from congregation to congregation without notifying it's members and don't notifying authorities. Your never good enough...very twisted organization. Crisis of Concience by Raymond Franz is a great read for helping you leave and not blaming yourself for all the guilt that comes with leaving.
Cindy, you have a unique point of view and make some serious allegations against the JW's. However, your words sound like a disgruntled ex-JW and you contradict yourself. Catholic move their priests from perish to perish, not JWs. If a person is found guilty of pedophilia, they are excommunicated. Period. That video you mention is exactly why Raymond Franz was excommunicated from the JWs. He was a self-appointed, self-righteous, arrogant, and prideful man. He even started his OWN religion! And you put HIM on a pedestal? He's the equivalent of Putin, Mussolini, Stalin or Hitler for god's sake! If the "issues" are "national" and "worldwide", then show us the proof of hundreds, if not thousands, of court cases against the JW organizations occurring. Do you have any links to share that proves JWs purposely covered up sexual misconduct and thus make it "disgusting"? You see, the world around you has corrupted your mind so extensively that you actually believe your own "truth". The truth of the matter is that there are NO conspiracies and the authorities are handling the isolated cases that ALL religions face in these last days. Show us the proof. JWs, by their own beliefs, do NOT take or accept government jobs that violate their beliefs and thus aren't pursuing power. If you knew anything about them you would know that; they stay strictly NEUTRAL, they don't go to war, and they don't get involved in politics. That proves they're willing to go to jail so as not to kill ANYONE. They are peaceful people. Prove me wrong. Show me fact-checked proof of your empty assertions and we'll believe you.
Why wouldn't you blame the predator who targeted the child? And you do know a great percentage of the time, the predator is the child's parent of some other person living under the child's roof or a relative they visit with their family? So, we should just give a pass to an adult outside the home who the child went to for help, who then slaps the abuser on the wrist for their "sin" and fails to contact the authorities so they can intervene on that child's behalf, then keeps the predator in the community so they can target more kids?
I wish I knew who this was, and what hall she went to. This is where I grew up, and there are a few I’ve always wondered about. Glad I left the organization in my 20’s. The two witness rule absolutely DOES apply to criminal matters! It applies to ALL matters! You don’t want to bring outside authority or individuals into the problem as it would “bring reproach upon Jehovah’s name”. So much to say about this, but I still have family and loved ones that are JW’s. But I will say that the PTSD is real and ongoing. I hope this woman has found some peace of mind.
If you are molested pls report to police as this is a crimical case not to elders for investigation.We are moral people n we do not mix with immoral people
Yeah, what a great idea. Let's just tell 6 year olds the onus is on them to call the cops. We wouldn't want adults who know they are being targeted to hand the person responsible over to the authorities. And guess what. Your moral superiority is fake and imagined. You have just as many bad people in your fold as the rest of society does. But your leaders cover for them more readily as a means to uphold that fake morally superior image. The Pope and other high-ranking leaders in other so called false religious organizations have taken steps to own up to their institutional abuse cover ups and apologize for them. The Governing Body of JW's lack any semblance of humility and they just keep gaslighting people about the issue. Disgusting.
@DBecker Would you care to provide us all with proof of your allegations and opinions? What evidence, if any, proves that abuse, of any kind, has been protected by the "elders" for decades, beyond just you repeating testimonials and your opinion...?
You must still be a Jehovah's Witness because you seem to defend the Watchtower Society in spite of its practice of harboring child molesters in their congregations, and its shunning of victims of sexual abusers. You can deny it all you want, Puissant Peacock, but sexual abuse against children is real, and it is a crime.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and sick and tired of hearing these lies. Report all crimes to the police! Just as if your car is stolen, you will not report that to the elders, why report rape to the elders? The elders are not law enforcement!
So, what happens when the parent is the abuser and the elder is the adult the child goes to for help? Do you still get to make that excuse?. Or how about the case of Jesse John Hill, who is one of the men arrested in this investigation. His criminal complaint is available online and congregation records were among the evidence. When one person told elders he molested them, elders had a judicial committee and Hill told them he molested 9 kids. Per their policy, they notified the Bethel Service department. What is your excuse for those elders and the Watchtower service department keeping that information from police, in violation of PA mandatory reporter laws? What is your justification for the pathetic slap on the wrist of his disfellowshipping only to be reinstated and back in good standing in under a year for molesting 9 children? What is your excuse for the cases where the victim or their parent does go to the police and the elders refuse to cooperate (California vs Simental, conviction of Clifford Whitely in the United Kingdom and the sworn statement of detective Philip Endsor to the IICSA hearings that states elders refused to cooperate with his investigation)? What is your excuse for an entire body of elders in Ireland being deleted by the branch officials in that country when they chose to call police on a known molester when the service department told them not to? What is your excuse for Australian authorities uncovering records in Australian Bethel of over 1000 child molesters and not a single one reported to police or child protective services? See the Australian Royal Commission case study 29, which includes video testimony of branch officials and Governing body member Geoffrey Jackson. Maybe you can tell me the part where he stands up for "The Truth" and denounces the commission' s findings as lies? You wont find it. Instead you'll find him admitting under oath that it is not "Apostate lies." There is a whole hell of a lot more to this than whether or not the victim or their parent goes to the police. Because of JW judicial investigations, elders often uncover more information and know of other victims. And anyone who works with sex abuse victims knows that mandatory reporter laws exist because family often cannot be trusted to self report abuse happening in the home. This is an issue of systemic, repeated failure to obey mandatory reporter laws and cooperate with police investigations and an issue of pervasive negligence by failing to permanently expell abusers in congregations as well as warn the outside community. Not lies. There are literally thousands of cases of them covering up this crime worldwide. Many of them have publicly available court transcripts and even video depositions. You would know that if they didnt spend so much time poisoning the well and scaring you away from researching for yourself by demonizing so called Apostates. No more excuses.
@@Angry20Something And your written proof of lying, cover-ups, and not reporting crimes is......where? You're repeating disinformation as if it is your "authoritative" source and, in fact, would take more faith to believe your twisted interpretation of the facts. Any intelligent person would know you're making a fool of yourself by suggesting that YOU have all the "facts" and the authorities, police, and prosecutors are completely powerless to stop such alleged crimes. I call BS. Again, you misrepresent the facts: the most recent Shepherd book DOES have the direction that they are to contact the authorities first and not try to handle the matter themselves. Second, 4 letters were sent giving them specific direction on how to handle sex cases. You are not privy to such information as you are obviously not part of the organization. You really think we, the public, are going to believe you over information obtained right from the source and the police? There is no conspiracy or pattern to cover up anything. It's downright foolish for you to suggest otherwise as the laws and law enforcement is robust in Australia, the US, and other countries. This type of crime is happening all over the world and is obviously being handled appropriately and aggressively as your narrative demonstrates. The one principle that the JW's do uphold is a right that you may have forgotten, and that is, "A man or woman is innocent until proven guilty." Thus, if a woman lashes out at you in anger and unjustly accuses you of rape, you suggest they immediately arrest you and send you to jail? NO! You want your day in court to prove your innocence! You fail to see the ultimate truth right in front of your face; the JW's would have no freeness of speech in their ministry, they would have no right to have children (because they allegedly cover up sex crimes and put their children at risk), and their organization would be shrinking fast if they practiced such "cover up" crimes. Your stories are old, come from Troll websites, and have no written or factual proof to support your allegations. I too can search the internet and find ISOLATED cases of sex crimes within the JW's but they are ALL being prosecuted according the right that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. Please knock off all the disinformation that you're trying to mold into some form of truth. It's nauseating, troll-like, and only makes you look like a gullible fool. The police will handle the prosecution of any and all perpetrators of sex crimes no matter if they happen in the congregations of JW's or in other religions around the world. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
@@Angry20Something I can't read all your nonsense! I will say it again, all crimes and criminals Must be reported to the police, not to your girlfriend or to your next door or to your teacher or to your uncle or to your ex-wife or ex-Jehovah's Witnesses on youtibe or your elders. Report to the police, they are well trained to deal with crime!
In Romans13: 1,4 quotes," The subjection of everyone is to the superior authority. ","It's God minister ,an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what's bad."
What is completely insane is not pedophilia as such because unfortunately there have always been cranks in all "religions", no, the craziest thing in all these dramas is that some of these criminal witnesses of Jehovah had been appointed by the holy spirit of God to become of the elders. With their new status, these elders had become beyond suspicion. They have been able for years to extend their hold over the poor victims. These holy spirit-appointed criminals prove one thing, and that is that the god of the watchtower loves little children and cares especially for their well-being. Disgusting.
Agreed. And I noticed that she's using terms and expressions that are over 30+ years old. So obviously this happened decades ago. Things have changed, improved, and I take these testimonials with a grain of salt. It's impossible for any of us to the know ALL of the facts and know exactly what happened. Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't spread the story of my life around like that unless I had some ulterior motive. It's highly suspect to me.
No. This is systematic around the globe. www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/file-list/Case%20Study%2029%20-%20Findings%20Report%20-%20Jehovahs%20Witnesses.pdf
This comment were originally typed for someone else and also sent but i copied and past it to this comment seeing that i at first wanted to comment on the main thread but then my eye caught someones comment and responded to it...."I think what people that's not part of the organisation fails to recognise to what the several different reasons are to why the elders do not report any individuality cases to the authorities which is solely based on biblical principles are one of the main reasons to why they're prejudice. When watching this clip it's clearly evident to me that this women is blatantly lying. I'm not saying she lied about her being molested by this 26 year old but she's definitely lying about to what the elder's response to her were by saying that they said she's a Jezebel and made her the culprit for why it happened to her. Yes the elders do not report individuality cases to the authorities, for very good reasons p but never will they try and withhold any victim or the guardians of a victim of reporting the matter to the authorities! The elders jurisdiction are within the organisation where their decision are based on biblical principles and rely on GOD to help them to make the right decisions knowing that GOD are the ONE that ultimately has the right to bring judgment upon those who defies HIS laws and principled. HE is the only ONE who can judge in fairness. Two days ago I saw a news article about a man who unfairly spend 35 years in prison only to be found out now that he were innocent all this time.😨 The point is that GOD justly gave the elders a limited amount of authority to were it comes to what decision they are allowed to make. Because according to the Bible and clearly evident all over the world that people in authoritative positions make very poor unjust decisions all the time, how can one expect an imperfect person to decide whether you live or die or how long would be sufficient to spend behind bars for a crime commited? Not only that but do you believe people can change no matter what kind of detestable lifestyle they have? Well GOD says people can change that's why HE allowed so much time to pass. He could've ended all the wickedness centuries ago but if he had millions who turned their life around wouldn't of had the opportunity to live forever in the very soon upcoming paradise. GOD several times have shown in the Bible how HE forgave several people which would've been put to death had they been tried in a court held by men. The point, which is also part of the reason to why no witness votes or partake and refrain from all sorts of political matters, is because they acknowledge the fact that the world in general are controlled by satan and the demons just as the Bible says and because of this fact they are wise to show their loyalty to GOD by following the instructions and directions of the people who HE choose to take the lead in helping and guiding as many as possible to firstly get to know who the true GOD is and show them how it is possible to have a personal relationship with HIM which are based on love and not for what you might gain. There's several reasons to why she might lie and try to, just like many others in the pass tried to spoil the abnormal good reputation the witnesses have all over the world. The question is why only report it now? For one i think she were a witness all this time but made herself guilty of something which made the elders decide to disfellowship her most probably because she weren't sincerely remorseful or someone else reported her misconduct and now out of anger of not having the privilege of association with the organisation and every witness that belongs to it. It happened several times as a means of retaliation. One recent example is the shooting at one of the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's witnesses where the shooter were identified as being a disfellowshiped person.😐 Anyway it's prophesied in the Bible that the nations of the world will unanimously ultimately act together and attack GOD'S people for they will see them as a threat against their rulership seeing that the witnesses all around the world unanimously are neutral to any form of political matters and pledges their allegiance only to their GOD JEHOVAH even though they are compelled by their GOD to follow the rules and laws of their respective country they reside in unless it contradict their GOD'S laws and principles, only then will they ignore their government's law and uphold their GOD'S laws and principles no matter what the consequences might be for an example, many countries had compelled their citizens to partake in a war being fought and even outlined the consequences of not doing so, because Jehovah's Witnesses know their GOD compelled them not to take up the sword for anyone doing so shall die by it and also are compelled to love and have empathy for their enemies just like Jesus who are the greatest example for when He said while hanging in excruciating pain and being mocked,"FATHER please forgive them for they do not know what they're doing". Yes the witnesses were learned that due to the world's ignorance according to the truth's teachings (the organisation of Jehovah's Witnesses teachings) which is strictly solely based on biblical laws and principles, the world would hate and despise them. Many had and many more will still do so which is by spreading propaganda against the witnesses. Many of the lies unfortunately prevails due to ignorance, some because those that supposed to be trusted are orchestrating it making it harder to see the lies for what it truly is like by those taking the lead in their churches or government institutions making use of patriotism to influence the mindset of the ignorant to thinking that the witnesses are part of the enemy just because they do not pledge their alliance to their country's flag not acknowledging that their GOD compels them to be good, peaceful and abiding citizens which every country should've hope all their citizens should be. Other will eagerly spread propaganda because they choose to do wrong or live a lifestyle which aren't suitable for someone to have if he/she wants to enter the new world where Jesus will rule as earth's King for a thousand year in order to restore the damage satan, the demons and humans caused both physically, mentally and spiritually, and then He will hand over the Kingdom back to His FATHER. Anyway I hope this comment were informative and helpful to see the orchestration of this woman's motive which are to slander the organisation's name of the Jehovah's witnesses who are undeniably the only people teaching the truth about GOD'S word, this being sincerely said not wanting to purposely offend anyone even though it's understandable if you take offense but unfortunately i can't be subtle about it. It's one of those things where you have to call a spade a spade."
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Blow the lid off this...I went there in my youth and they are guilty of covering up this stuff nonstop.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Permitted and APPROVED. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023
You're rotten name says it all
You are definitely right they are just as guilty as the perpetrators
Stop lying 🤣🤣
This makes no sense! Stupid people trying to blame the whole organization of jehovahs witnesses! Weak ones like this one woman that said her parents went to the elders when a crime was committed and didn't report to the police? police? No wonder the woman is the way she is!.
Anyone who Google arc jws...will know it's all over the world. They wouldn't comply with reporting abuse to the authorities. Dug their heels . Australia said fine.....no tax exempt status and fines. Guess who changed their minds awful quick. Kudos to Australia and Norway.....and Belgium.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be known to the world 🌎.. everyone make plans to join the protest. This will be ground breaking. Pass the words.
@Kim Taylor You are completely misrepresenting the truth of the alleged "findings" in The (Austrailian) Royal Commission: Report of Case Study No. 29. It's interesting how you and Elle Gee flocked to a study that wasn't an exhaustive or comprehensive investigation at all, namely, they only interviewed two, yeah two victims of child abuse. Also, the report is about how the JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse, not of known cases of child abuse. It says that right on the cover of the report! So generally speaking the "report" is about how the Royal Commission disagrees with how JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse. However, as their Elder Book demonstrates, the report made an incorrect conclusion. The JWs, their parents, and the victim is encouraged to call the police immediately. However, even the Belgium article below noted that some "accusations" suddenly pop up after the person is excommunicated from the religion and retaliates by crying abuse.
Regardless, the issues in Belgium and Australia differ and I WILL post links to relevant articles. Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding. The controversy surrounds ex-members filing complaints that when they are “disfellowshipped” they are shunned. Either way, the Oslo District Court suspended de-registration of JWs in Norway on January 11, 2023.
(hrwf.eu/norway-oslo-district-court-suspends-de-registration-of-jehovahs-witnesses/). As you can see Elle Gee, the JWs fought the decision and they still have their religious status. So no, the Watchtower isn't squirming and they haven't changed their minds about disfellowshipping criminals.
Also, I'm surprised you missed this, but the (Australian) Royal Commission report is a perfect example of Big Government meddling in the affairs of religion. You'll band together and yell and scream if government does it to any other religion. But it's OK for government to mix church and state when it applies to JWs? That's so blantantly hypocritical that it's, in fact, illegal in the US. For example, the Governing Body of JWs exercised a legal precedent that prohibites Austrailia from mixing church and state or, big government trying to meddle in religious affairs: "Familial child sexual abuse is not institutional sexual abuse, as has been acknowledged by the Commission. Similarly it is self-evident that when child sexual abuse occurs outside ‘institutional’ contexts as defined, the response to it does not fall within the Terms of Reference of this Commission:
"The Commission proceeds on the basis that when an allegation of familial sexual abuse becomes known to an elder and is subsequently Scripturally investigated by congregation elders, it ceases to be familial abuse and becomes institutional abuse. This conflation of familial and institutional sexual abuse does not accord with the Terms of Reference."
Anotherwords, JWs already have systemic rules and steps that are carried out when someone is "ACCUSED" of child abuse and "please butt out". Remember, the Commission's report is only about the reporting of "ACCUSATIONS", not verified cases.
Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy or ignoring the accusation and even think it's made-up by JWs. Read the whole report. The Australian government's OPINION is that the scriptural guidance that ALL religions follow is "antiquated". Really? And when has big government ever been better at disseminating spirituality? The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states,
New International Version (NIV)
Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.”
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
_____
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
_____
Matthew 18:16
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’
_____
2 Corinthians 13:1
This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
______
1 Timothy 5:19
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.
_____
Hebrews 10:28
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies.
Again, the "two person rule" many so passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime. So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you", just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so.
I have a feeling neither of you read the whole report.
@@ellegee4683 You and Kim Taylor are completely misrepresenting the truth of the alleged "findings" in The (Austrailian) Royal Commission: Report of Case Study No. 29. It's interesting how you and Elle Gee flocked to a study that wasn't an exhaustive or comprehensive investigation at all, namely, they only interviewed two, yeah two victims of child abuse. Also, the report is about how the JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse, not of known cases of child abuse. It says that right on the cover of the report! So generally speaking the "report" is about how the Royal Commission disagrees with how JWs handle ALLEGATIONS of child abuse. However, as their Elder Book demonstrates, the report made an incorrect conclusion. The JWs, their parents, and the victim is encouraged to call the police immediately. However, even the Belgium article below noted that some "accusations" suddenly pop up after the person is excommunicated from the religion and retaliates by crying abuse.
Regardless, the issues in Belgium and Australia differ and I WILL post links to relevant articles. Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding. The controversy surrounds ex-members filing complaints that when they are “disfellowshipped” they are shunned. Either way, the Oslo District Court suspended de-registration of JWs in Norway on January 11, 2023.
(hrwf.eu/norway-oslo-district-court-suspends-de-registration-of-jehovahs-witnesses/). As you can see Elle Gee, the JWs fought the decision and they still have their religious status. So no, the Watchtower isn't squirming and they haven't changed their minds about disfellowshipping criminals.
Also, I'm surprised you missed this, but the (Australian) Royal Commission report is a perfect example of Big Government meddling in the affairs of religion. You'll band together and yell and scream if government does it to any other religion. But it's OK for government to mix church and state when it applies to JWs? That's so blantantly hypocritical that it's, in fact, illegal in the US. For example, the Governing Body of JWs exercised a legal precedent that prohibites Austrailia from mixing church and state or, big government trying to meddle in religious affairs: "Familial child sexual abuse is not institutional sexual abuse, as has been acknowledged by the Commission. Similarly it is self-evident that when child sexual abuse occurs outside ‘institutional’ contexts as defined, the response to it does not fall within the Terms of Reference of this Commission:
"The Commission proceeds on the basis that when an allegation of familial sexual abuse becomes known to an elder and is subsequently Scripturally investigated by congregation elders, it ceases to be familial abuse and becomes institutional abuse. This conflation of familial and institutional sexual abuse does not accord with the Terms of Reference."
Anotherwords, JWs already have systemic rules and steps that are carried out when someone is "ACCUSED" of child abuse and "please butt out". Remember, the Commission's report is only about the reporting of "ACCUSATIONS", not verified cases.
Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy or ignoring the accusation and even think it's made-up by JWs. Read the whole report. The Australian government's OPINION is that the scriptural guidance that ALL religions follow is "antiquated". Really? And when has big government ever been better at disseminating spirituality? The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states,
New International Version (NIV)
Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.”
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
_____
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
_____
Matthew 18:16
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’
_____
2 Corinthians 13:1
This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
______
1 Timothy 5:19
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.
_____
Hebrews 10:28
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies.
Again, the "two person rule" many so passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime. So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you", just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so.
I have a feeling neither of you read the whole report.
@Loquetis keep your head in the sand Mr. Ostrich.
@@kimtaylor3866 Really?! That comment doesn't even make sense. LOL! A person who researched your allegations, read the latest published information on the news organization websites in Belgium/Norway, AND read the Australian Royal Commission report from cover to cover is keeping my head in the sand? On the contrary! Any intellegent person would call your comment BS. Do you really think we shake and shiver because you MIGHT know something terrorizing that we don't know? Do you really think that you are the smartest person in the room and everyone should listen to your warnings? Ok, show us the proof! Asking for written proof that I can fact check is doing the opposite of burying my head in the sand. Unlike you, I WANT to be WELL informed, not by dillusional testimonials by Ex-JWs or trolls who blindly hate something they know very little about, but by data that has been fact checked by unbiased intellectuals that actually care about other humans. Do you have any written proof to offer, anything? Even a link? I'd be glad to research it.
Thank-you, thank-you to all the brave abuse survivors that continue to come forward & are speaking out all around the world.
*I saw so much of this in my area in Loomis, California. Young boys were molested by a leader and the elders never reported to the police and families (victims) weren’t allowed to talk about it. I was hanging out with this leader as a minor and no one warned my parents. Later one of the victims when he became a late teen he was disfellowshipped against his will and he committed suicide. Many youths I knew that got shunned committed suicide. Later some of the victims put together a lawsuit and they won around 2000, but sadly not even a newspaper put it in an article. I read the public case. I too was called named by Elders as a teen, they constantly were harassing me in judicial meetings.*
That's horrible!
I still dont understand why they disfellowship over someone celebrating a birthday or Christmas
Apostle Paul said NOT to do that..
Inland Empire chapters have problems too.
@@kathleenking47 having conversations JW, it was conveyed that they don’t celebrate birthdays, but will use the coupons that are given to celebrate one’s birthday. SMH
@@kathleenking47... They do that they do because the people are willfully ignorant and get caught up with these devils because they are not seeking after the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the true, living, high and Holy God being DECEIVERS themselves... All that thirst after the true righteousness of the Holy God shall be filled... For it is written... These be the blind leading the blind... Remember the Lord Jesus warned... This is like why would one say they want BK BUT GO TO McDonald's and keep eating McDonalds and say that it is BK and it is SOOOOO good and then refuse to talk to people who say we are not eating BK and or this is not BK but McDonalds we are in!!! AMEN!!! Those who love/obey "TRUTH" REJECT LIES... ALLLLLLLL LIES OF FALSEHOOD... THIS WALK OF CHRIST AND AFTER CHRIST IS ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF RIGHTEOUSNESS... MANY GET STUCK ON THE WORD CHURCH AND HEREIN IS WHERE MANY ARE AND SHALL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND SEDUCED!!! AMEN!!! AMEN!!! ONE'S FOUNDATION MUST BE UPON THE ROCK WHICH IS CHRIST AND NOT A BUILDING BUILT BY MEN AND OR THE LIES OF FALSEHOOD... BUT ONE MUST BE A SEEKER OF THE KINGDOM OF RIGHTEOUSNESS...
@@kathleenking47... PAUL SAID MANY THINGS... BUT THERE IS NO CELEBRATION OF CHRISTMAS IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES... NONE OF THE APOSTLES "CELEBRATED" ALL THAT WORLDLY PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES TO BE "CELEBRATING" BUT CEASE TO OBEY ALL THAT IS COMMANDED AND WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES... CHRISTMAS IS A TRADITION OF DISOBEDIENCE MEN... IE PARENTS, KINFOLK WHO HAS NEVER OBEYED THE TRUE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD... THE WORLD AND THE CHURCH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ARE NOT ONE AND THE CHURCH/BODY OF CHRIST SHOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING AFTER ANY DOINGS OF THE WORLD... RECEIVED THE REVELATION...BECAUSE THERE IS A DIVIDE...AMEN!!! CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING SAID TO YOU...THIS DAY...BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD LIETH IN WICKEDNESS AND IS AT ENMITY WITH THE HOLY GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT AND HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH...SATAN IS THE "god" OF THIS WORLD AND THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS AND HE HAS MANY CHILDREN WHO DELIGHTS TO DO HIS EVIL DEEDS...WHICH ARE TO STEAL, KILL AND TO DESTROY...EVERYDAY THEY BE ON THEIR POSTS...EVERYDAY AND EVERY NIGHT...
They scorn and blame the victims and don't help them.Telling them they can't tell anyone and must protect God's name.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON DC. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be known to the world 🌎.. They must be STOPPED. PASS THE WORD.
They should say protecting the organization. I cannot believe for one minute our heavenly father would approve of this evil organization.
They use Jehovahs name as a shield of pry when the rape throw religion it to get away with crimes
When they say : we need to protect God,s Name is blasphemy against the Almighty GOD YHVH.
WHY??
Because GOD knows their statement is not true...
While Crist was here on earth
he loved his people...but it came to the point when he saw all the wrong doing done by the elders inside the temple ( and probably CSA or prostitution)
Crist call them vipors...
Also Crist warning to all the elders and people in general is written in
Matteus chapter 7.
Not everyone who tells me Lord,Lord we did so many things in your name...
CRIST answer:
I do not know you.
Stay way from me.....
This is happening right now.
@@annafarago6527... THIS IS THE DAMNABLE HERESY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SPOKE OF... BUT I PRAY ALL THE POWER OF THE THRONE OF HEAVEN UPON THESE DEVILS AND MAY THE HOLY GHOST ROOT OUT ALL THIS WICKEDNESS RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWW...SATAN IS THE HEAD OF ALL OF THIS FALSEHOOD... ARE YOU HEARING THE SLANDERER SLANDERING OF HER YOUNG SOUL??? AMEN!!! HEAR ME PEOPLE AND HEAR ME WELL... THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HAS NEVER COMMANDED FORGIVENESS OF THE DEVIL, A DEVIL, DEVILS... NEVERRRRRR... HE WAS TEACHING HIS DISCIPLES TO FORGOVE AND EACH OTHERRRRRR WHEN TRESPASSED AGAINST...THOSE OF THE WORLD WERE NOT STANDING THERE... BUT HIS DISCIPLES WERE STANDING IN HIS PRESENCE BEING TAUGHT OF THE LORD... DON'T GET IT TWISTED OR LET WICKED MEN WREST THE SCRIPTURES... DON'T LET THEM DO IT... BUY LEARN OF THE WILL OF THE HOLY GOD FOR "YOURSELF" BY READING AND STUDYING THE HOLY SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF AND CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD FOR HIS REVELATION OF HIS TRUTH TO YOU, PRAY FOR TRUE UNDERSTANDING AND TO BE ABLE TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH... BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY "SEDUCERS" IN THE WORLD SEEKING TO DEVOUR ALL THAT ARE DUMB SHEEP... HAVING NO SHEPHERDS... DON'T FALL FOR ANY OF THEIR LIES OF FALSEHOOD FOR THE DAYS ARE BEYOND EVIL...
I don't know how, but someone should send this station a clip of Steven Lett proclaiming that those little ones are enemies of God, not the "precious" ones they claimed in their response.
I expressed my displeasure to what Lett said about children to a very devout witness on Facebook and I was immediately blocked.
JWS will not be able to unsee the protest on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023. Watchtower will pay for what they have done.
I'm Glad I read your comment, I was about to say the same thing!!!
@@alpaphoenix3252 witnesses are some of the kits thin skinned people I know Scientologist are just as thin skinned too. They both view questions or mentioning negative history as persecution 🤣
VERY GOOD SUGGESTION, THIS SHOULD BE TOLD TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW jw's DO HONOR THEY'RE 2 WITNESS RULE.
This is wrong. No one has the right to abuse children I hope to get convicted for the crime
Still to this day watchtower will not adopt a zero tolerance policy for CSA child sexual abuse
The Jehovah's Witness Church has a dangerous "two witness rule," meaning a child has to have a second witness to the CSA. Otherwise, they would not act on the abuse/crime. This is a huge problem!
Protest Protest Protest. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. This CULT will be put on blast for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. October 31st 2023 protesters will be at the WHITE HOUSE in Washington DC. Pass the word.
That’s actually a misunderstanding of the rule.
Many of you confuse the "two witness" rule with apathy, ignoring the accusation, not acting on the abusive crime, and even think it's made-up by JWs. This couldn't be farther from the truth.
The New International Version of the Bible used mostly by Catholics states,
New International Version (NIV)
Occurances of “...testimony of two or three witnesses.”
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
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Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
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Matthew 18:16
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’
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2 Corinthians 13:1
This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
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1 Timothy 5:19
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.
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Hebrews 10:28
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
By inference then, that means that ALL Religions that follow the Christian Bible adhere to the two witness command by God. As you can see, the "rule" you refer to is a scriptural principle adhered to by the courts. Many hypocrites ignore the fact that, in court, the more witnesses to a crime, the better AND there must be, at a minimum, two, three, or more circumstantial pieces of evidence to convict a person of a crime, all in front of a multi-person jury. So, you're calling ALL religions liars...and by repeating it multiple times doesn't make it any more true. As the Scriptures and Criminal Laws show, it is you who are "lying" or atleast are spewing inaccuracies. Again, the "two person rule" so many passionately denounce is actually a legal right of yours if you are accused of a crime.
So, should we do away with your right to "stand before your accusers" aka "having more than one witness against you" just so you can do away with the scriptural law of "two or three witnesses"? It would be highly hypocritial to do so.
@@joallg Joe Schmo, you're taking Matt. 18:16 out of context and its so very interesting how you hate mongers are quick to accuse and condemn. So, shame on you.
Let's review Matt. 18:14-17 together as it was part of Jesus' admonision to the Jews regarding how they were to deal with each other. Jesus said, “Moreover, if your BROTHER (a Jew) commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector." Joe, as verse 17 points out, this was guidance for disagreements or “sins” that had the possibility of being RESOLVED between two persons or brothers. The principle is the same in court. You go to SMALL CLAIMS court to get a judgement by a legal judge for a dispute or disagreement with another person. Jesus’ ultimate point, though, was in verse 35, that each person should try to find it in their heart to forgive the dispute and move on for the sake of peace.
However, in this forum, we're talking about CRIMES and CRIMINAL ACCUSATIONS that can NOT be settled between two people or brothers. EXTERNALLY, the elders FIRST encourage the person to call the Police or authorities to handle the criminal accusation. INTERNALLY, A CRIME IS A SERIOUS SIN and must be handled by the elders; James 5:13-15 makes the clear distinction of how we should properly react in line with God’s will. It says, “Is there anyone suffering hardship among you? Let him carry on prayer. Is there anyone in good spirits? Let him sing psalms. Is there anyone SICK among you? Let him call the elders of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, applying oil to him in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the sick one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.” This scripture in James is not the only guidance given to us regarding the handling of SERIOUS SIN such as child abuse. Furthermore, a person IS considered innocent until proven guilty. By LAW, the person has the right to defend themselves in case the accusation is false, and we know that this has happened in the past.
The apostle Paul made it very clear that a convicted child abuser was to be excommunicated from the congregation and this is what JWs follow to the letter. In fact, no other religion excommuncates anyone anymore. Paul said, “In my letter I wrote you to stop keeping company with sexually immoral people, not meaning entirely with the sexually immoral people of this world or the greedy people or extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, you would actually have to get out of the world. But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.” Being that elders are the only members that can “remove” or shun a person, they conduct the INTERNAL investigation and remove the criminal.
So no, Joe Schmo, you’re incorrect. We give no tollerance to any child abuser or anyone who is hardened in a course of abusing others, crimes, or serious sins. In fact, since JWs are the only organization that excommunicates such ones, where are our children really the safest in this mad world? Thus, we must allow the Police to do their job in the EXTERNAL investigation as they prosecute the person in a court of LAW. The INTERNAL investigation is started immediately as well. However, Internally, the investigation may pause until the court case finishes. Then, it may be clearer whether the “serious sin” occurred. In either case, the imperfect men try their best to determine the truthfulness of all involved and then render a fair judgement.
@@joallghe wasn't excusing bad conduct there they go twisting things again Lol he was stating that the 2 witness rule is not a "JW" rule but it's practiced even in the court of law and is mandated by scripture.
Thank you for coming forward hopefully this will give others the courage to do so also. So sorry for all that you went through I feel you pain ❤
Yes, they have a history of it, Jehovah Witnesses always cover it..
Not for long, WATCHTOWER is being protested on October 31st 2023 at the White House on October 31st 2023 WATCHTOWER will be fully exposed worldwide 🌐. Wide. Pass the word.
Then the rank and file say, we don't know anything about that. As if that let's them off. As if they get a free pass. As if they can belong to this cult and saying that they don't know, leaves them blameless.
Worse than the Catholic Church in a way.
So do the Mormons
Always cover it? Would you care to offer any proof of that allegation? Anything?
Thank you for your courage in speaking out
Health and healing to all here and elsewhere who have lived through abuse. 😇🙏
I want someone to tell us what happens when mandated reporters have DETAILED KNOWLEDGE of child abuse in multitudes of other states! Please!
@Heather Rants - mandated reporters have to report what they know because if it determined that they knew and did not report it, they can be held liable or allowing the abuse to continue -- the word "mandated" is the key.
It’s WORLDWIDE not just USA. EVERY country in the world where the Watchtower has adherents it is the same.
@irresistible743 oh I am aware. It is literally insane and the active jw think the devil is fabricating news reports and it is all "disgruntled" former members driving it. Why are they disgruntled? Who puts themselves through this? Out of angst?
JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on.
Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, and because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
@@PuissantPeacock excellent reasoning.
Sick monsters need to investigate them all
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE on October 31st 2023. The world will know that this CULT are protecting PEDOPHILES worldwide 🌐
💯 CULT 💰
What a sad story. I hope Watchtowerland doesn't try to bribe this reporter to stop reporting this story. Watchtowerland are known to try any tactic that might silence this kind of news from going viral. I hope the woman gets support from the courts. It is critical that someone takes these reports seriously and actually takes action to stop these predators in Watchtowerland from hurting other children.💔
My son was married to a young woman who had been raped by her church elder/father since the time she was a toddler. Their marriage lasted about ten years. After she had a baby she had so many flashbacks about the molestation that it destroyed their marriage. We're in Canada. I know many women who were molested as children. In Watchtowerland, it's a systemic problem anywhere you go. Look at the Australia Royal Commission case study 29, for example.
Brooklyn?
Bribe ? No ,they are more likely to file a lawsuit to keep things quiet.
Brave woman. Thank you ♡
Watchtower will be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE and protecting PEDOPHILES. Come join the protest and expose watchtower world 🌎 wide
Coward full of lies
When will the authorities put an end to this? There are allegations all over the world now. When is enough ENOUGH.?!
When they clean up house, cause at least some in the Biden administration are involved in stuff like this and they protect the corrupt leadership of Jehovah Witnesses. They are all part of the new world order agenda, all on the same team and if this goes forward the average jehovah witness will suffer and be thrown under the bus while the leadership escapes. I mean if nothing is being done about Bidens son laptop Hunter Biden nothing will be done about the corrupt jw headquarters leadership. They are all on the same boat to bring down the united states and will try to impose their authoritarian regime. Yes, the rabbit hole is much deeper, otherwise this cult (and others) would have been shut down long time ago, the high ups in government know exactly whats going on so yeah if the swamp isnt drained this will only get worse
And forget about reasoning with a fully indoctrinated witness they have been programmed not to listen to what others have to say on the subject, many are too far gone to ever come to their senses, yes the mind control is real as well.
@@vinnyrodriguez2699 what has Bodens son to do with it??? Oh man, leave politics out!!!
Bad boy , bad boy, what you gonna doooo what you gonna do when they come for for🎵
@beauty rest : No I wont leave out politics!. U know why? Its because its precisely because of politics that were in this mess. Politics is the reason they continue to let these people get away with hiding this stuff. We can all complain and expose this as much as wen want but as long as these politics continue nothing will truly be done. My bet is they will probably fine and at best jail some of these elders that covered this up, but the religion itself will continue knocking on peoples door and will continue abusing even more victims. So if u really care about this issue, get to the root, otherwise we are just wasting time. And u should research and see they are exactly on the same team. Its not the average jw but those that run the jw business. Remember, authorities will only do what politics allow them to do.
@@vinnyrodriguez2699 Yes, take away the tax reliefs from all churches and see what happens. We can only dream.
Very sad. I love how she mentioned the smurfs though. Only a exjw would understand that remark.
What is it going to take to bring federal charges? This is a national crime stemming from the Governing body’s directive. I know, because I was a victim too.
@@fberri2052 I am sorry that happened to you.
Illinois is another state i know of 2 kingdom hall where they still cover up when i was a kid and the man and woman still go's to them hall's and other hall's when elders talk's and watches them if someone say something...
Join the protest in WASHINGTON DC at the white house on October 31st 2023. Watchtower will be exposed on a 🌐 worldwide level. This CULT will be exposed for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE
It’s about time ….. every dark secret will come to light 💜🙏✝️
Yes. There were only eight on the Ark. Amount of people saved doesn't matter only those that Jehovah deems righteous will be saved.
@@maryshaffer5675 certainly not JW, people who shunn others with biblical reason, people who doesn't provide humanitarian help. JW is a CULT and the only ones who ignores are those that are part of it.
@@dopeliffe Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades.
(1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.”
(2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive.
(3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members!
(4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on.
(5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway.
(6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
@@PuissantPeacock if it's not a cult try to leave without consequences, billions in the memorial? Once a year 😂 talk about the weekly basis. Cases won in court? Sure, lying and saying half-trues. And last but not least, YOU DO COVER UP child abuse to avoid "the name of Jehovah" being stained and this is done PER POLICY. Stop defending such a cult that keeps you blind and defending them with passion.
@@dopeliffe Byron, you misread my commented post. They spent billions of hours in their field ministry preaching, not their memorial.
The definition of a cult is simple to find. Google the definition of "cult". You'll see that I simply copied and pasted it into my comment. Thus, it is not me or any other person that is defining a cult...except you and others posting in this forum. Just because you want to twist and redefine what a cult is doesn't mean that the rest of the educated world is going to follow suit. Case in point, everytime the news on television refers to the JWs, they call them "The JW religion". Certainly, they're intellegent people and would know "if the shoe fits, wear it" and would describe the JWs as a cult. So, it's obvious that your linking JWs to a cult is simply irreverant, hypociritical, incompetent, and petty. I mean really, those old rumors and accusations were debunked over the decades; there simply is no truth to any of them. However, those who have been excommunicated or have some chip on their shoulder, yeah! they are most willing to repeat negative albeit baseless prevarications. As for whether or not I choose to defend anyone, who are you to say anything about it hypocrit? I assert that is obviouly you that is the blind zombie who hasn't done his homework/research.
This is why you should never be alone with anyone in authority. I know men who are in authority in their churches. They will not be alone with a woman that they are not married to or related to, ever. Because they have no intention of anything happening or being accused. When a predator is about to attack, it either waits for its prey to fall behind the flock or separates its prey from the flock. That's how predators work in all churches. Parents please stop letting your children be alone with adult men they are not related to. There is no reason to do that. Ever!!!
Yes Amen
"Stop letting your children be with adult men that they are not related to?" That's like saying, "Putting up a fence will stop all crime." The fact is, fences keep out the honest people. My 6 year old daughter was raped 5 times at the age of 6 years old by a ministerial servant who happened to be her uncle. I never even left her alone with him. We were visiting my parents in law who lived in another state, and unbeknownst to me, he was taking her out of her bedroom in the middle of the night to do this. The fact is, predators will find a way. That's why we call them predators. Stop blaming parents, the little children and everyone else you can think of. The blame lies with the child rapist and the #1 goal should be to lock them away when their wicked deeds are brought to light. Anyone who is made aware of such activity should be full force on board with turning them over to the authorities. As so many Jehovah's Witness stories go, we were told NOT to go to the authorities so as to not bring reproach on Jehovah's name and organization. Doing that could lead to us being disfellowshipped! And don't bother calling me an apostate for saying that because that is exactly what happened. 30 years later, we are still dealing with the emotional trauma of all that occurred. Your comment reminded me of something that was said from the podium when my daughter was a newborn. I loved fixing her all up in pretty dresses, ribbons and bows, little tights and patent leather shoes and bonnets. We were told that even for newborns baby girls, we need to make sure that their dresses cover their knees so as to not sexually arouse men in the congregation. I thought, "What?" If a newborn baby girl sexually arouses a man, there is something deeply wrong with that man! Putting words like that out there gives every JW man a pass for going after little children to molest or rape them. Putting blame outside of the perpetrators gives them a pass because, in the end, they know they won't be held accountable. In fact, they will be protected by the elders and anyone higher up, all the way to the Governing Body. They'll die on the alter of sealed records of criminals who ruin people's lives. You might be wondering what ever happened to my daughter's molester. Absolutely nothing! He went on to molest at least 5 other girls that I know of. I'm quite sure there are far more. He was never even disfellowshipped, and remains in good standing to this day. What's going on in Pennsylvania needs to happen across this entire country in every single state, bar none. It's time this horror story comes to an end!
@@katemorgan2464 I'm so sorry for your situation but agree with you. It's almost always a family member
@The Poor Man's Philosopher It is estimated that 93 percent of children who are victims of sexual abuse know their abuser. So yes, it could be a relative or someone they trust.
You are an apostate no point in trying to deny it...the problem with all apostates is that they know how to spin a story to make them sound more believable I don't know if your doing it out of ignorance or because you yourself have been disfellowshiped and nou you have a vengeance against Jehovah's organisation but whatever your reason might be for doing so just know that each one will be reckoned with individually. I'm not even going to entertain or debate your lie for you to say a ministerial servant raped your daughter and went on to rape several others more but nothing was done to him. The elders takes such vile acts serious from everyone of Jehovah's servants who make themselves guilty of such vile acts so for you by making that statement is enough prove to me that your lying. The question are is it worth the punishment for indirectly bringing reproach on GOD'S name by slandering HIS organisation with your lies?
She's correct. That's exactly what they do. The elders cover it up. My parents left me in a room with 3 elders when I was a teenager. They willingly trust these men with their children and then blame the victim.
Not truer
JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members!
JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on.
Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway.
It goes beyond 1 state! 🙏
It's global
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house in Washington DC. Protest is permitted and APPROVED. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023
Facts
Beyond one Country. 🥺😥😢😫😡😤
It will be All over the USA ,and ALL over the world.
Crist is the Appointed judge for mankind including the GB.
No worries we will see the fall of ALL organized religion
Revelation chapter 17 e18.
We believers have the responsibility to stay faithful to Almighty GOD YHVH and Crist,even without organized religion.
I,m out ot WT.
I read the Bible by myself.
If they don't like to bad.
CRIST gave his life for me nobody else did...so I don't owe nothing to WT.
Thank you very much for your time.
This a cult. I was sexually abused in this religion as well when I was a teen.
May God heal your heart in Jesus name because so many out here are dealing with issues due to that
@@deniseking385 thank you Denise! Be blessed in Jesus
so are all the other cults with their pastors priests vicars and all their paedophilia hidden
It isn't 😐
@@jjones9550 I'm sorry that happened to you.
this cult has destroyed lives and families.
CSA survivor of this religion the damage is so real.
My friend was Jehovah Witness and was shamed in front of the congregation because she got pregnant as a teen. Then excommunicated.
Protest Protest Protest. Watchtower will be protested on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON D.C.
5:50. I love how the governing body's statement doesn't need to bring attention to ANY other group besides them at this moment, but they don't miss a second in trying to take the light off of themselves by implying that other religions are just as guilty as they are. Interesting how behind the scenes, they know the real truth, that they're no different than any other religion.
I was an elder from 1985-1994 and thankfully never had to deal with such case. I feel so ashamed that I was an elder and could have been part of such a cover up. I’m glad I’m out.
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the white house. This CULT needs to be STOPPED. Exposing their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE will be brought before the entire world. Go to: be free 2023. Its time to wake up everyone about this DOOMSDAY CULT. Pass the word
I tooo. I’m from Brazil
0:54
Very Cultic, since all other religions celebrate birthdays, even could vote ....they dont follow what Paul said about it.
It's a choice, but they treated it like adultery..with the disfellowshipping
Anyway🙄you know hood and hell well that’s not the norm😏
Interesting. I would conclude that you're a turn-coat, a traitor, defector, deserter, betrayer. Judas Iscariot did the same thing. Doug, of course you would never be part of a cover-up. The overwhelming majority of JWs would never be part of one either. All of you "woke" kids think you bettered yourself but only succeeded in becoming a traitorous deserter. That's a stain that will never wash out. Besides, nothing they do fits the definition of a cult. Just because an organization doesn't follow the crowd or what everyone else is doing doesn't make them a cult. When has the "crowd" been right about anything? A whole crowd of Jews condemned Jesus to death as the hypocritical religious leaders lead the false accusations. Did that make them ALL correct and thus Jesus and his teachings a cult? All throughout history, the Catholic church, aka the "crowd" or numerous religion, engaged in bloodshed on a grand scale. Does that make them correct and the rest of us a "cult"? Of course not. Vanessa Whetstone is correct. These cases are not the "Norm".
I hope everything about this cult gets out.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st at the WHITE HOUSE on October 31st 2023.
Watchtower's child SEXUAL ABUSE cover up will be exposed to the world. Protest on Oct 31st 2023 at the white house, in Washington DC.
@@tammyg8031 right on time for hollowen😂
Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades.
(1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.”
(2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive.
(3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members!
If you all want to at least sound intelligent, stop calling them a cult. Geez!
@@PuissantPeacock lol still a cult. 6 million members compared to billions of people on earth is a small number. Yes they don’t focus on 1 person but 1 group (the govern body) who claimed they are the faithful and discreet slave. Sounds culty to me. Also, false prophecy’s 1975 and before then. Dogmatic beliefs that are extreme in some cases such as shunning, not celebrating Mother’s Day, birthdays etc. They give more attention and idolize the organization than God
Thank you Jesus! Justice at last...It all comes out in the wash
Watchtower will be exposed on October 31 2023. For their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. A protest will take place in Washington DC at the white house. Pass the word. Exjw Diaries just did a video on the protest.
This needs to go Nation wide, other states need to take notice asap. My mom is PIMI she let slip to me that the "elder's room" (meeting room where files are kept and judicial committees meet) was being renovated and cleaned out. To me this says they are destroying files because they know what's happening n PA and other states are covering their tracks before they are under investigation too. As much as I would love to see the WTBTS hit hard with it's world wide CSA cover-ups, I think they are already taking steps to ensure that doesn't happen.
If they are destroying the files they also can be accountable for a felony and go to jail...
May be in same cases it's impossible to know all the details in every case.
No worries if they do that the situation for them will complete destruction by CRIST....
Why?
Crist is the Appointed judge for mankind including the GB....
Jehovah GOD is a God of justice...
He may allowed corroption to go on for awhile to test the faith of elders...
but at the right moment He will have the meanings to bring everything to light.
This religion started in Pennsylvania..
Right?? and is exactly in Pennsylvania that the Judgment by GOD is starting.
Coincidence???
No ...Crist the Son of GOD YHVH knows every detail about this situation.
I was a JW for 47 years.
WT betrayed me.
I do not trust them.
I,m out...
But still Fallow the teacting of CRIST.
Stay faithful..
The end must be near.
No, don't listen to the trolls (like Maria Nunes) who are not privy to truthful information. They're not destroying the files. They're scanning them and uploading them to their new database system which is connected to the US Branch. Another words, they're going as paperless as possible.
By their fruits we shall know them.
Amazingly strong courageous women.
Watchtower is being protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Join the protest. Pass the word
@@tammyg8031 thank you for sharing. I will spread the word.
@@MidnightAndLuna Thanks. Exjw Diaries ( Justin) just did a video on the protest.
@@tammyg8031 Well That Will Make The Headline News
@@mervjohnson2140 Yes, it will. Watchtower needs to be EXPOSED ON A WORLDWIDE LEVEL 🌐. THIS CULT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS
Glad this is being investigated by the authorities. It was the parents responsibility to go to the police! They were not told not to. Does the mandated reporters law of Pennsylvania not without question include her parents? Why was he “legal guardian”? The witness rule was enough to get him banned from the congregation, so an elder would never! call a child that, while immediately believing her, calling headquarters, putting the bad one out, putting him on blast to the congregation, maintaining a record that will follow him worldwide, and making sure he will never serve again or be around children-a lot was done-no matter how much one ‘hates’ their religion, that doesn’t add up. Who said that then? Magazines have also been published for decades on how to keep kids safe; worship is never isolated. And who is forgiven will be decided on judgment day…is the mother who didn’t contact authorities okay??
JW Org is a mind controlling cult. I am so glad this woman came forward. Shame on her mother. JW org meant more to her than her daughter. The mother has committed also a sin. I wish this woman all the beset in the future, stay strong, you have done nothing wrong as a child, it was this evil organization and your family who abandoned you. I hope the her abuser is sent to jail, including the elders. She should see her mother and the JW org for every penny.
Pursue this into other states. People, petition your local officials if u know of something like this in your area, we need this to happen in every state here in the united states, that is we need these Jehovah witnesses investigated everywhere, they are all covering this stuff up in congregations
Watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house. Join the protest. Pass the word. Watchtower's covering up child SEXUAL abuse is over. The world will know. Go to: be free 2023
@@tammyg8031 Yes. Im aware of that upcoming protest. Trying to spread the word on it in fact so hopefully this gets alot of attention, we should do what we can to involve as many as posible. We need to make it clear this abuse in this cult needs to stop.
@@vinnyrodriguez2699 Vinny thanks. Please the website on all your social media platforms. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. These con artists are facing their last days. Thanks for your help. Do you have a channel?
@@tammyg8031 I currently dont, since im still in what they call the pimo stage, just basically cause my mother is very sensitive towards the org. She wont tolerate the least bit of negative mention toward her precious governing body and organization, but I am sharing info (without her knowledge) to others and exposing whats going on in the congregations. There was even a store were they used to set up their carts that kicked the witnesses out because of the info I shared so im working and educating people as much as i can and even though many witnesses in the area know about this going on no one has come forward to the elders and singled me out, ive kept it secret as much as posible. My wife doesnt even know either, but i will share it with her once i know she becomes a pimo. Right now she is in what we would call (physically in, mentally questioning). So still working with that.
@@tammyg8031 And yes, I hope these are their last days. Im sick and tired of this abusive cult getting away with their crimes and hipocresy. Ive even gotten to the point were Ive almost just told my mother but managed to hold back just because I know how indoctrinated she is and I fear giving her a heart attack or something if I told her. The damage it does to peoples minds is beyond evil. I know my wife would not get an attack if i told her but my mom likely will. My mom is one very pro Jehovah witness organization, governing body person. She has even stated if they told her to jump off a cliff, to just hand over everything she owns to watchtower she would do it no questions asked. And yes she follows and does every stupid thing they say to do i am 99.9% sure she will never wake up.
Sexual and domestic abuse have been protected by the elders for decades! We have thousands of stories to tell worldwide! Why is this behavior allowed when it is illegal and immoral??
@DBecker Would you care to provide us all with proof of your allegations and opinions? What evidence, if any, proves that abuse, of any kind, has been protected by the "elders" for decades, beyond just you repeating testimonials and your biased opinion...?
@PuissantPeacock; have you not watched any of the videos of the Australian Royal Commission investigating charges of child sexual abuse (CSA) perpetrated by some members of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult? Sexual abuse against children has happened, and still does. Wake up and see the truth.
Poor women very sad what these.people do
They are a cult
We aren't 😐😔
This is a cult!!!
Watchtower will be exposed & protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house. Watchtower's cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE is over. The entire world 🌎. Will know what this DOOMSDAY CULT has done. Go to: be free 2023
No it's not.
@@isaacarellano5118 Yes it is. Jehovah's Witnesses are listed as one of the top ten cults in America. Do your research. The leadership are false prophets. No true religion would be enablers of PEDOPHILES and COVER up CSA. CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL HIMSELF WAS A PEDOPHILE. WAKE UP
@@isaacarellano5118 it actually is, go in and look at the BITE model for a cult. JWs fit it to a T. Who wants to think/know that they're caught up in one it's difficult to realize and examine it.
Absolutely a cult. They use methods which are recognised as those used by cults.
Such as:
Information control.
Control over who members can socialise with.
Shunning and disfellowshipping.
Strong inside group mentality vs outsiders.
Demonisation of outsiders.
Compulsive need to recruit new members.
The leadership is responsible. This is their opportunity to tell the truth, take responsibility and apologize. Pay restitution to the victims/families and make necessary changes to their policies. When a child has the courage to speak about the abuse they have endured, we should believe them. They need love and support and especially validation that what they went through was horrible and traumatic. What has watchtower done to help the survivors of csa? Can Jehovah’s Witnesses tell me of any instance where the police were called by an elder? Some people say it’s the parent’s responsibility to call police. But what if it’s your dad that’s abusing you? A child should be able to approach a religious leader for help
That's a lie, the statement they gave , a big fat lie
Jannet, please check in TH-cam the Australian Royal Commission with Geoffrey Jackson. He is part of the Governing Body and appears there. He acknowledged the massive abuse problem inside the religion.
How do you know? Do you know her?
That's a lie,,, said the person who wants to suppress the jehovah's pedophile issues
@@beautyRest1 reread the comment. I think they’re saying the comment from WT is the lie, which it is.
@@96t5wagon yes, that’s true. Thanks! I thought it might be JW apologist!
Please be nice to Jehovah's Witnesses and don't go yelling at them or slamming doors. Most of them have no idea that this is even going on and their leaders tell them that media reports such as this are "satanic lies." But the problem is very real. So if you meet a JW, be nice, and also advise them to do their own research on what's going on in their own religion. Also, the Governing Body is lying when they said that the "two witness rule" doesn't apply to crime. While they may have changed their policies recently, this video showed the "elder's book" pre-2015 where it indeed enforced the "two witness rule" regardless of sin or crime. What they need to do is apologize, not blame victims.
Watchtower is going to be protested for their child SEXUAL ABUSE cover ups on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE. Pass the word. This is a big ground breaking protest against Watchtower.
Jehovah witnesses know what goes on. But, even if they don't whose fault is it that they refuse to look on line of the accusations and court cases. Refuse to check into the Australian Royal Commission findings. Whose fault is that? Do Jehovah witnesses get a pass because they are stupid? Their ignorance is a choice that they make, if they don't know. I refuse to be "nice" to them. I tell them exactly what they are. Ignorance is no excuse. I don't care how you want to cut it. If they don't know they certainly should know! And that is on them! If they support the corruption, then they are part of it. They are compliant with it. They are NOT nice people, and I treat them as such.
@@jimbobaggans1564 Have you been a JW and know what it's like to be told that anything contrary is the devil and they will lose their life for so much as doing the research? I know how that felt and it took me 2 years to break the indoctrination. You will not reach them by being aggressive. By all means, tell them what's going on but realize that they are victims too.
That may be so but I told my sister and she just covers her ears and says I don't want to know .They think all people besides them are evil 😂 literally!
@@karenmoody2763 They are literally told to turn off the TV if a negative news story comes up. Because of that, almost no JW's know that their US spokesperson is Robert Hendriks because they usually turn off the TV even if their religion is mentioned at all in case things could turn negative.
There are Jws somewhere saying that's a nasty wicked lie from those apostates...
I hope the Watch Tower gets sued out of existence! 😡😠
This is a worldwide problem with this organization. They have covered up CSA for decades.
That's why watchtower is going to be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the white house
oh and all the others too i hope
Criminals Need Too Pay For There Bad Deeds. I Grew up There. But That Was a Really a Long Time Ago. 70 years. Ago. Many Things I Hear about. I Never Seen or Heard Of. If They Did. These Things. Too Humans. They Went Too Jail. Or. Prison. And We’re Kicked Out. ,And. A Man Had A Bible’s Study With a Man And A. Woman Would Have a Bible Study With a Woman. My Father Said. Back The. If You Notice. They Start Changing. there Though on Different Things. Some. Thing. Is Very Wrong. Go On. On Who are Running. Some Places. This Was Talked About Way Back Then 😮 There’s a Lot of Good People out There Still And The There The Wicked. 🤫
Jehovahs witnesses are getting what the deserve. Feed lies, eat the droppings of those lies.
Watchtower will be fully exposed at the protest in WASHINGTON DC at the white house. Pass the word. On October 31st 2023.
@@tammyg8031 Wait, what? JW's are a cult and a dangerous religion? Ok, let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades.
(1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.”
(2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive.
(3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members!
(4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on.
(5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway.
(6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
Im an exJW. I was never molested by anyone in the congregation but I can attest to the group/cult-think that happens there. They are primed to listen and be followers making an easy environment for this kind of thing to happen. So, a predator can easily do whatever he/she wants there and if you know the rules you can use loopholes to keep yourself in good standing while victim takes the blame. It is true I was 3rd generation JW and I know how they operate. Im so glad that I am no longer with them. Unfortunately my family is not allowed to associate with me because I have not returned to the religion. I am sick, got diagnosed with an auto immune disease and deal with so much pain. none of them check on me. I can barely walk at times. My mom checks on me about every 3 months. Even tho she does not associate with me she at least said she won't see me hungry or homeless. Many others like me get disowned by their parents. It's an passively abusive environment
Nicky, we validate and appreciate the pain you are enduring. Your biased opinion of the environment in the congregations, though, cannot be taken seriously. What proof do you have that ALL congregations, and thus the whole organization, is corrupt and allows predators to flourish? You know as well as I do that if a "predator" is discovered, and they are guilty, they are disfellowshipped immediately AND reported to the Police. If you mean that they keep their criminal activities a secret, then Nicky, that happens in ALL religions, groups, even FAMILIES! So to make a huge jump in logic and condemn EVERYONE as being morally corrupt, that they don't genuinely care deeply for their children and loved ones, and everyone tolerates even the slightest wrongdoing is an outright prevarication.
The truth is that you were disfellowshipped and your butt hurt over it. That's truthfully why your family doesn't associate with you. They determined that YOU are a corrupting influence on the clean congregation and thus shun your ASSOCIATION, not cut you off completely. You admit that your mother checks up on you every three months. That right there proves your opinion incorrect; they didn't "disown" you. Your family does still care for you as proven by your mother and anyone in the congregation, including the elders, ARE ALLOWED to attend to any dire emergencies you have. But, they're not going to compromise their love and loyalty to Jehovah and his standards and associate with a person PROVEN to have been a corrupting influence in the congregation. That's the clear, truth of the circumstances you are in. But your situation proves exactly what JWs do to "potential" corrupting influences. It helps PROTECT the members, the children, and those that wish to fight imperfection and do what's scripturally right with the only motivation but to please Jehovah. Other religions don't even bother excommunicating corrupting influences are thus reaping the horrendous consequences of their error. Still, you well know as well as I do, you have the choice to follow the Internal rules, turn around, and clean up what you have done in the past. Once you do, everyone will be excited and glad to associate with you again.
@@PuissantPeacockit’s the “are allowed” part that puts your entire comment into a cult environment. Nobody she have to be allowed or not allowed by somebody else to do something…especially when it comes to reporting criminal activity.
@@stevendurand1987 Really Steven? LOL! You're going to entitle yourself to take issue with ONE phrase? Hypocrite! Can you not come up with anything better than that? My statement is a general social statement that gives every person of freewill the "allowance" of their opinion, their position on a matter (social or political), and the right to speak that opinion. On the other hand, as in cases like yours, when opinions infringe on the rights of others, are not factually based, or disparage or defame another's characer without proof, it becomes a religious hate crime at varying levels. This principle also applies to anyone who is a member of the JW organization or a person who chooses their own path Steven.
No one forces, coerces, or uses fear to MAKE a person be a JW and all of the hate mongers on this channel are proof of that; they chose to leave (those that left JWs). If their conscience bothers them due to their decision, then that is on them. Regardless, if you want to use different words than “are allowed”, how about, "They have the choice", or how about, "They are entitled to..."? Trying to word-trap me or take issue with a phrase is simply childish, over-reaching, and incompetent and doesn’t prove anything about a cult.
I asked you for PROOF that your opinions were accurate, not for you to moon-light as a grammar school teacher and grade my paragraph. So far, Steven, you have produced no proof, just erroneous opinions which, quite frankly, no one cares about.
@@PuissantPeacock you have lost touch and I will pray that you wake up one day. You spin circles around yourself and are programmed to not take accountability. Good luck on living life that way. Armageddon nears.
*Loomis, California CONGREGATION the little boys were being CSA in the kingdom hall bathroom in the 1990s the elders HID the abuse and one of the boys committed suicide too, after the elders SHUNNED & Disfellowshipped (organized hate) him later as a teenager (Timothy Clark) and a vew of the victims sued the Watchtower and WON Their case. The elders SHREDDED and destroyed documents from CSA case, because there is videos and instruction from the corporation to do that. Sadly the local cities wouldn't even put this shocking case in the local newspaper and this church is still sitting at parks trying to recruit their youth and the same elders still hide abuse.*
And according to the theology and they're bad rules you have to have two people as a witness and they will not go to the police..! Call DCF on every kingdom Hall
And your written proof of lying, cover-ups, and not reporting crimes is......where? You're repeating disinformation as if it is your "authoritative" source and, in fact, would take more faith to believe your twisted interpretation of the facts. Any intelligent person would know you're making a fool of yourself by suggesting that YOU have all the "facts" and the authorities, police, and prosecutors are completely powerless to stop such alleged crimes. I call BS.
Again, you misrepresent the facts: the most recent Shepherd book DOES have the direction that they are to contact the authorities first and not try to handle the matter themselves. Second, 4 letters were sent giving them specific direction on how to handle sex cases. You are not privy to such information as you are obviously not part of the organization. You really think we, the public, are going to believe you over information obtained right from the source and the police? There is no conspiracy or pattern to cover up anything. It's downright foolish for you to suggest otherwise as the laws and law enforcement is robust in Australia, the US, and other countries. This type of crime is happening all over the world and is obviously being handled appropriately and aggressively as your narrative demonstrates.
The one principle that the JW's do uphold is a right that you may have forgotten, and that is, "A man or woman is innocent until proven guilty." Thus, if a woman lashes out at you in anger and unjustly accuses you of rape, you suggest they immediately arrest you and send you to jail? NO! You want your day in court to prove your innocence! You fail to see the ultimate truth right in front of your face; the JW's would have no freeness of speech in their ministry, they would have no right to have children (because they allegedly cover up sex crimes and put their children at risk), and their organization would be shrinking fast if they practiced such "cover up" crimes.
Your stories are old, come from Troll websites, and have no written or factual proof to support your allegations. I too can search the internet and find ISOLATED cases of sex crimes within the JW's but they are ALL being prosecuted according the right that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Please knock off all the disinformation that you're trying to mold into some form of truth. It's nauseating, troll-like, and only makes you look like a gullible fool. The police will handle the prosecution of any and all perpetrators of sex crimes no matter if they happen in the congregations of JW's or in other religions around the world. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
I knew the JWs were a shady cult when my cousin who already had 4 adult children decided to convert to the religion and then marry a man who was already into it, and they (the JWs) told her that her 2 adult daughters couldn't be involved in her wedding because they were not JWs. They wouldn't even let her daughter's help plan her wedding shower!
Only her granddaughters who were about 4 and 6 years old at the time were allowed to be in the wedding party. The bridesmaids didn't consist of any non-JW friends or family members.
The wedding shower game was so cringy because when it came to the "Who knows The Bride Best Best" game, none of the JW women who made up the questions really knew any of the answers to the questions because they really didn't know my cousin that well because she didn't know the man for a long time before she married him- UNLIKE HER OWN DAUGHTERS AND FAMILY who would have made up relevant questions and obviously would have known all of the answers to the questions.
Extremely shady...
You misrepresent the facts to make yourself look like the righteous one. They couldn't be in the wedding party because your cousin and her husband wanted to get married in the Kingdom Hall. Even Catholics require that both marriage mates be Catholic in order to be married in the Church. If they held their wedding in a hall or elsewhere, then everyone and anyone could have been in the wedding party. They made a choice. And no, you're wrong. Anyone can help plan a wedding shower and even be present at the wedding in the Kingdom Hall no matter what religion they are!
@@PuissantPeacock lol. "Even" Catholics. Even? Is your bar set so low on such similar media matters? BTW what you said ref marriage of them is untrue. Hilarious comment language tho!
@@melsili6518 Mel, you're so ready to dish out insults and abuse then know this, I use Catholics as only ONE example because they are one of the largest religions in the world with a reported large number of members. Thus, they tout themselves as being the "truth" and "their high numbers of members prove this." (Personally I don't agree, but that's irrelavant). It's interesting that you say "Catholics" and "bar set so low" in the same sentence. That insult is on you. Regarding the "rules" regarding getting married in a Kingdom Hall within the JW religion, please provide us with proof, any proof, that my retelling of the guidelines is "untrue." All one has to do is know the scriptural principles that speak on the subject of marriage such as "Marry only in the Lord." Nearly ALL religions follow this simple principle which, just by itself, suggests that the wedding party be of one faith. That way, both marriage mates are pulling in the same direction. If you can only compare comment language to your own, please, share with us how much smarter you are and, of course, what your source material is. Remember, it's easy to sit back and make baseless allegations and assertions. But it is you trolls that are spreading disinformation both purposely and incompetently by commenting such blather in these news stories. Let's see your written, fact checked proof.
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I was an inner city teacher for a JW principal. She was a pastor at the church. She was a racist, disorganized egomaniac . She literally turned folks AWAY from God. She left a most acid taste in my Christian mouth. God HELP her and all the children under her care.
Teresa women can not hold any office in JW faith. This woman could only be a member that is it. Only men can be in the pastor/elder position.
Never was there a "female pastor" at any Jehovah's Witness "church."
JWs aren't Christians
They're not called a church
But an organization
Nowhere in bible is a church called that
@@kathleenking47 Uhh, where did you get your disinformation from? JW's adamantly believe in Christ Jesus. Just because they know who Jehovah is and what the correct role of Jehovah and Jesus Christ is doesn't make them "non-Christian".
Women are not allowed to be a “pastor” or any kind of leader as one of Jehovah’s witnesses. Only men. It is a Christian faith, believing in Jesus. I was raised a JW and left when I was 24. I have strong feelings against the religion, but if you’re going to give a negative depiction of them @teresadragstream8648 , at least get your facts right. 🤡🙄
This doesn't surprise me
Please Please !!!
Find and prove who is responsible (no doubts) ‼️‼️
Then "THROW THE BOOK" at them !!!!
Let prison "justice" take over ‼️‼️
Worked for Epstien !!!
They shunned their daughter/victim but embraced/forgave the predator/abuser, WTF is the JW org really this mentally toxic?
No, of course not. Let's consider a few facts…again because this disinformation has been proven false for decades.
(1) Definition: "Cult, A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure, person, or object. Ex: the cult of St. Olaf. 1. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Ex: the cult of Satan worshipers." Nope, they don't venerate or give devotion to any man or object, only to Jehovah their God: Exodus 20:5 "for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires EXCLUSIVE devotion..." Other Christian religions labeling JW’s as a cult does not make it so. In fact, “main stream religions” having different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible is cause for taking what they say with “a grain of salt.”
(2) In 2022, the JW's memorial of Jesus death had 19,721,672 in attendance, have 117,960 congregations worldwide, and spent 1,501,797,703 (that's Billions) hours in their field ministry. (www.jw.org/en/library/books/2022-Service-Year-Report-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Worldwide/2022-Grand-Totals/). Again, nope, that's not a "relatively small group”, they are Christians, and their beliefs are not sinister or secretive.
(3) JW’s have won 50+ Supreme Court cases giving us many of the freedoms we all enjoy in the US today. That doesn’t sound like an organization that would leave their precious children lawfully unprotected. They obviously want laws to protect their members!
(4) JW Elders are, by US law, obligated to act on and report a case of child abuse, even if it’s an accusation. The Shepherd Book is the guidebook for their elders in ALL countries and laws differ from country to country. The Shepherd Book, Chapter 14-Legal Considerations, item 6 states, “Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.- Romans 13:1-4.” In the US, the elders know the law(s) and thus first ask if the victim is going to report the allegation. If so, the elders move onto item 7 and report the allegation to the Legal Department at the Branch office which is IMMEDIATELY acted on. If the victim does not want to report the allegation, the elders still perform item 7 which states in part, “To ensure that elders comply with child-abuse reporting laws (as outlined in item 6), two elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal advice when the elders learn of an accusation of child abuse…” Either way, the allegation is assuredly and immediately reported and acted on.
(5) Some allege that they or their parents reported abuse to the elders and they “covered it up.” If this is proven to be true, because everyone is innocent until proven guilty, then the perpetrator (or whole organization) would be guilty of "MISPRISION OF A FELONY" and be prosecuted for that crime. No one gets away with anything and thus there is no conspiracy to hide abuse within the organization. That’s ridiculous and suggests that law enforcement is derelict in their efforts. Think about it, if the whole organization of over 19 million people is so dysfunctional that it, PER POLICY, allows children to be abused while the parents freak out, behave unlawfully, or threaten members to stay silent, lawyers would have a field day with it all, have JWs in court constantly, and the organization would be raided and shut down. Plus, their membership would be rapidly dropping, not increasing like it is. Ignore the trolls. They were probably kicked out of the organization for criminal offenses anyway.
(6) “Their religion is only about the money.” Wrong, omg wrong. They have NO paid clergy, the governing body you guys like to bag on doesn’t receive a dime in wages, and every JW is an unpaid volunteer. All of the money, which they disclose on their website every year for all to see, is entirely spent on printing/publishing Bible-based literature which they place with you, or leave at your home, for FREE! They even conduct Bible studies with people, all over the world, for FREE! No, it’s clearly not about the money.
@@PuissantPeacock WOW!!! A really long reply to defend the jw but no empathy towards that victim or victims of csa in the jw. Your reply sums up everything rotten in the jw as you have clearly demonstrated that the reputation of the organisation is more important than the members. And also your definition of a cult is disingenuous because it has nothing to do with what you believe in its how the members are treated, you mention nothing of coercive controlling behaviour, emotional manipulation, punishment and reward, isolating people from their families to control members behaviour, all of wich are common in jw which makes it a CULT.
@@nick281972 Nick, no one really cares if you judge the facts to be "rotten" and to think otherwise is just human narcissism. My comment was obviously not an attempt to address ALL of the suffering of the thousands of victims. Attacking my comments like that is just the strawman's argument and makes your comment irrelevant.
Again, you accuse the JW's of "manipulation" and other baseless lies and produce no proof of your assertions. No, one does not have to defend the JW's, they defend themselves just fine. ANY religious organizaion is continually threatened by you mindless zombies that repeat erroneous disinformation with all the emotion of a toddler. This kind of dark and mindless reasoning is what lead to the Nazi concentraton camps and the most horrendous religious hate crimes the world has ever seen. How many mosques, churches, and kingdom halls have to shot at, bombed, and burnt down before you wake up and see you're part of the problem!
Every religion has a form of excommunication, even the Catholics! But they don't enforce it and thus their religion is full of pedofiles and sexual criminals. JWs don't put up with that crap and excommunicate the criminals immediately when they are caught. How could you miss such an obvious and viable solution to a prolific criminal problem?! So what if it isolates the criminal from family members! If the person just refuses to change their ways to doing what is good, yeah, remove them so they don't spoil the whole group! You see, your emotionalism and misplaced sorrow is exactly why society continues to get worse!
Nick, the "cult" definition I posted wasn't MINE! Good grief! Google cult and you'll see the exact definition in front of your face! It's you and uneducated pharisaics who think they can bend and twist JWs around their own personal definition of a cult. Nobody takes you seriously as evidenced by all of the news networks and other media. They don't ever refer to JWs as "the cult of JWs", they always refer to them as the "religion" JWs. I mean come on people, these rumor-based and baseless accusations have been around for decades and have already been debunked!
@@PuissantPeacock Then pleas explain the two witnesses rule? Because if someone came to me and said they had been raped or sexually abused I would report it to the authorities not ask for a witness.
@@nick281972 Correct! As your first comment suggested, for JWs who have all the same feelings and love for their children like we do, they excommunicate pedos and criminals immediately! And they really mean it as evidenced by all the excommunicated whiners who cry over being shunned! On the other hand, the two-witness rule is, in fact, a Bible principle on which our criminal courts base our rights. The specific scriptures are:
New International Version (NIV)
“...testimony of two or three witnesses.”
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Matthew 18:16
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’
2 Corinthians 13:1
This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
1 Timothy 5:19
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.
Hebrews 10:28
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
As you can see, both accusations and convictions are addressed. JWs have "Internal" rules and yet also abide by all of the "External" government laws which is also scriptural (Rom. 13:1). The issue surrounding the "two witness rule" is an "Internal" manner of handling an ACCUSATION of child abuse or other crime, including serious immoral wrongdoing (e.g. adultry, pedofelia, etc.). The elders or older men are instructed to immediately encourage the person and their parents to go to the police IMMEDIATELY if the victim and parents feel the accusation has merit. They don't have a crystal ball and they are not trained investigators or policemen. Thus, they next intiate an INTERNAL investigation which is governed by the same principles that our criminal code is based, namely, that one of two elements must be met for a person to be FOUND GUILTY of the crime. (1) there must be two or more witnesses (or a confession) to the crime or (2) there must be one witness with overwhelming circumstantial evidence in order to CONVICT the person. The punishment is always the same; excommunication which the JWs call disfellowshipping. The person is shunned by JW family members and the congregations of JWs, which is also scriptural. It's done that way to lovingly get the person to think about their attitude(s) and actions and hopefully come to their senses. But, MORE IMPORTANTLY, it keeps the congregation and their families safe from known, active pedofiles and any dangerous infuence, both morally and criminally. But again, many people don't stop and realize that our rights in criminal court is based on this scriptural principle.
The EXTERNAL investigation should be initiated by the parents and or the victim. However, the laws in the US state that a person who is aware of a crime, or even the accusation of a crime, must report this to the authorities at once. On the other hand, some victims state that they made the accusation of child-abuse as a child and no one believed them and/or it was "swept under the carpet." That is the nearly impossible scenario to deal with because none of us can see into people's hearts or into the past and determine, for a certainty, that the person is innocent or guilty. Thus, just like in groups all around the world, some get away with it for a time but then are exposed later. Thus, no one gets away with it forever; death will even consume that person eventually. But, we should not condenm entire organizations based on human, and sometimes parental, imperfection, errors made by a few, and man's inability to execute perfect and immediate judgement and appropriate punishment. None of us, no mater what group or religion or organization we're in can provide perfect justice for both sides of a criminal matter. It's directed to and given to the authorities to handle. Even then there may not be enough evidence for the police to convict the perpetrator. That kind of scenario is sad to watch and impossible to reconcile.
Watchtower is Disgusting 🛑
I have family that I love very much who have not been allowed to have a relationship with them because we are "Of the World." Their lives have been totally The Watchtower Society.
Same here.
That has nothing to do with JW as an organization. If they told you that, it is because it was their choice. All we are asked to do is to be mindful, to avoid people, who are bad company. But that's all. I do maintain several friendships, some very close, to people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact, in our congregation (and it is NOT an exception), there are various sisters and brothers, who are married to non-witnesses. While that's not encouraged because of obvious problems it can cause, there is nothing wrong with it either. So, once again, if someone would rather not have contact with you, it is their choice, or, if it is a minor, their parent's choice. But it's certainly not a rule.
@@buskeiten3625 I studied with the Witnesses for two years and I saw enough that I know of what I speak. What a mess.
I was one Jehova Witnesses and I stop by myself to be one of them cos can’t keep the clean steps with them. I can’t agreed with you. Maybe you wanted and you had sex and that’s not tolerated in congregation. So if JW are molested kids mean your parents too? You know better if you want to have sex must be with your partner and that mean you to be married. I never see people so pure like JW and be there for you helping without asking noting in return. How many JW helped in war, with good to build against people houses , and helped with care? Ans not helped just JW but their neighbours too. All my respect to all JW which dedicate their time to talk about God and teach people the Bible. They never turn against me once I step back , no prelude no molestation no abuse . They are against all these kind of immoral acts . Their life their life in peace , they are full of love and compassion. All my respect to them and to all people from different religions who talk about God and try to respect his will. Why you talk about it and don’t talk about jehova ? Where is your love? None forced you to be one of them or to stay but they will not tolerate anyone in any congregation who has a double life pretending to be Christian ans the other side smoke get drunk having sexual contact with different partners. God is love and who loves God never talk bad about people who believe and show it . I’m sorry for you feel just disgrace for all lies
Sorry to build people houses
Luke 8; 16 No one lights a lamp and covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, he sets it on a stand, so those who enter can see the light. 17 For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be made known and brought to light.
This is a worldwide cover-up from the JW Organization
Would you provide us with evidence of this "cover up" please? Any websites, letters, ...anything that supports your allegations?
@Puissant Peacock; how about videos of the Australian Royal Commission investigating accusations of sexual abuse against children of the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in Australia, if you want proof of sexual abuse in that cult?
The Elders are lying. It's allowed during occasions such as this. It is called theocratic warfare. Main idea, we have to keep Jehovahs name in the clear. Protect the organization.
Watchtower will pay for what they have done. October 31st 2023 Watchtower will be exposed & protested at the white house in Washington DC. Pass the word.
LOL! No religious organization could have such a criminalistic policy J.L. Theocratic warfare is a bit different than your personal defintion.
What is Theocratic (Spiritual) Warfare? “When the apostle Peter used his sword against the slave of the high priest, Jesus told him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52, 53; John 18:10, 11) Jesus thus made it plain that theocratic warfare from that time on was not to include the use of fleshly/physical weapons. Later when he was brought before Pontius Pilate, he reiterated this point by anwering Pilate's question as to whether or not he was a King, “If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight.” (John 18:36)
Years later, the apostle Paul, under inspiration, wrote in his letter to the Ephesian congregation that spiritual warfare was against the “spiritual” organization of Satan, which has dominated and controlled the earth for centuries. (“We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”-1 John 5:19). Paul stated quite clearly, “Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.”- Eph. 6:11, 12. Then, in his letter to the Corinthian congregation he wrote, “The weapons of our [spiritual] warfare are not fleshly,” he said. “For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God.”-2 Corinthians 10:4, 5.
It’s clear by this evidence that your definition of theocratic warfare is incorrect. Jehovah can defend his reputation and protect the organization completely without the aid of humans. A true Christian's fight is against false relgion and those who minds have become bankrupt of Truth, accuracy, and the building up of others. JWs motivation is thus to keep themselves from becoming a victim of Satan, becoming disloyal, and loosing the ability to reflect the fruitage of God’s spirit.
Furthermore, if we love our God and want to please him, then a JW will strive to never bring reproach on God's name. But don’t misunderstand. Jehovah has big shoulders and can handle anything humans throw at him. It's simply an opportunity for humans to show our deep love for him.
The big problem is these pedophilers never were turned over to the law. All offensives handled in house with a so-called judicial system of members where most members only have a high school education or less.
I am 71 years old n am a witness for more 50 years n I have never heard child abuse or sexual abuses being covered up.This may be isolated case n am sad to hear about it.
Then you're a fool, because it is rampant in the organization
I use to think like that to , a JW for 35 years. But if something is covered up, well, that means things are going on with out most people knowing, doesn’t it? I was shocked when I learned about the thorough investigation in Australia, 1006 perpetrators and over 1800 victims among the witnesses. The elders knew and not one of these perpetrators were reported to the authorities. And it’s not apostate lies. It’s all there in the report www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/file-list/Case%20Study%2029%20-%20Findings%20Report%20-%20Jehovahs%20Witnesses.pdf
The Kingdom Hall that I went to as a child back in the 60s I saw children being taken in the parking lot and getting whipped in front of everyone and everyone turned blind eye. What I remember the most about our Kingdom Hall is that the adults were having affairs. They'll do anything to protect their God's name, but they're just doing whatever they want behind the scenes. Steven light reminds me of the guy from Heaven's Gate many similarities
Stop lying
The country town I lived in your nextdoor neighborhood would whip your bottom until it was red ..what remember most was to be honest and have integrity
There IS NO QUESTION about it. It DOES HAVE A HISTORY. Now it's just a matter of proving it! It sickens & angers me when they make those statements where they voice the moral high ground because they have and continue to cover up CSA. So Grateful to all the brave people who are coming toward. It takes a great amount of courage to come forward and speak about this type of abuse but even more so when it happens within this organization!
Mark Brown...sadly I know him.
Watch is being EXPOSED and protested on October 31st 2023 at the white house in Washington DC at the white house. Pass the word
U do🙁
Wow did he tickle you
Have a family member that married a Jehovah Witness whose goal was to prey on teenage girls.
Now this guy is physically and mentally abusive? does drugs, doesn’t work and no longer participates in their services. But my family member has to stay with him and never remarry with the threat of getting disfellowshiped.
Imagine an organization that would rather have a victim harmed than taking a stand against the perpetrator.
Marc Brown had a BEARD! But they’re forbidden!
Protest Protest Protest. Watchtower will pay for what they have done. On October 31st 2023 watchtower will be exposed for their cover up of child SEXUAL ABUSE. The entire world 🌎. Will know what this DOOMSDAY CULT is doing. Watchtower is human and sex trafficking through their so called RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION. The world will know now. Pass the word. Go to: be free 2023. Pass the word
Wow someone made it pass the 9th grade
@@GPWGP “past”, not pass. Eighth grader.
Truth conquers all things
They Attacked Raymond Franz watchtower is DANGEROUS 🛑
#witchtower
Shocking
Jehovah's Witnesses started in the city (Pittsburgh) in 1870. Are these people related to the original J.W. group, unlike people who converted?
The group was originally referred to as the Bible Students due to not having a formal name, and founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell, who also co-founded Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881, to organize and print the group's publications. After Russell's death, a dispute over who the group should now follow resulted in several quasi-groups breaking away, with Joseph Franklin Rutherford retaining control of the Watch Tower Society and its properties. Rutherford made significant organizational and doctrinal changes, including adoption of the name Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931 to distinguish them from other Bible Student groups, symbolize a break with those who wanted to follow Russell's traditions, writtings, and thinking, and instead emphasize following Jehovah rather than a man (Russell). All of these other groups either rapidly fell apart or, over the years, dwindled to only having a few dozen adherents remain. Now the only recognized organization is the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm a 3rd generation who left. They move the Pedophiles around from congregation to congregation without notifying it's members and don't notifying authorities. Your never good enough...very twisted organization. Crisis of Concience by Raymond Franz is a great read for helping you leave and not blaming yourself for all the guilt that comes with leaving.
Cindy, you have a unique point of view and make some serious allegations against the JW's. However, your words sound like a disgruntled ex-JW and you contradict yourself. Catholic move their priests from perish to perish, not JWs. If a person is found guilty of pedophilia, they are excommunicated. Period. That video you mention is exactly why Raymond Franz was excommunicated from the JWs. He was a self-appointed, self-righteous, arrogant, and prideful man. He even started his OWN religion! And you put HIM on a pedestal? He's the equivalent of Putin, Mussolini, Stalin or Hitler for god's sake! If the "issues" are "national" and "worldwide", then show us the proof of hundreds, if not thousands, of court cases against the JW organizations occurring. Do you have any links to share that proves JWs purposely covered up sexual misconduct and thus make it "disgusting"? You see, the world around you has corrupted your mind so extensively that you actually believe your own "truth". The truth of the matter is that there are NO conspiracies and the authorities are handling the isolated cases that ALL religions face in these last days. Show us the proof. JWs, by their own beliefs, do NOT take or accept government jobs that violate their beliefs and thus aren't pursuing power. If you knew anything about them you would know that; they stay strictly NEUTRAL, they don't go to war, and they don't get involved in politics. That proves they're willing to go to jail so as not to kill ANYONE. They are peaceful people. Prove me wrong. Show me fact-checked proof of your empty assertions and we'll believe you.
🙏🏻 for all victims 😢
I blame the parents for not protecting their children
Why wouldn't you blame the predator who targeted the child? And you do know a great percentage of the time, the predator is the child's parent of some other person living under the child's roof or a relative they visit with their family? So, we should just give a pass to an adult outside the home who the child went to for help, who then slaps the abuser on the wrist for their "sin" and fails to contact the authorities so they can intervene on that child's behalf, then keeps the predator in the community so they can target more kids?
Keep Exposing the Corruption Hypocrisy LIES and Abuse
I wish I knew who this was, and what hall she went to. This is where I grew up, and there are a few I’ve always wondered about. Glad I left the organization in my 20’s. The two witness rule absolutely DOES apply to criminal matters! It applies to ALL matters! You don’t want to bring outside authority or individuals into the problem as it would “bring reproach upon Jehovah’s name”. So much to say about this, but I still have family and loved ones that are JW’s. But I will say that the PTSD is real and ongoing. I hope this woman has found some peace of mind.
If you are molested pls report to police as this is a crimical case not to elders for investigation.We are moral people n we do not mix with immoral people
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Yeah, what a great idea. Let's just tell 6 year olds the onus is on them to call the cops. We wouldn't want adults who know they are being targeted to hand the person responsible over to the authorities. And guess what. Your moral superiority is fake and imagined. You have just as many bad people in your fold as the rest of society does. But your leaders cover for them more readily as a means to uphold that fake morally superior image. The Pope and other high-ranking leaders in other so called false religious organizations have taken steps to own up to their institutional abuse cover ups and apologize for them. The Governing Body of JW's lack any semblance of humility and they just keep gaslighting people about the issue. Disgusting.
@DBecker Would you care to provide us all with proof of your allegations and opinions? What evidence, if any, proves that abuse, of any kind, has been protected by the "elders" for decades, beyond just you repeating testimonials and your opinion...?
You must still be a Jehovah's Witness because you seem to defend the Watchtower Society in spite of its practice of harboring child molesters in their congregations, and its shunning of victims of sexual abusers. You can deny it all you want, Puissant Peacock, but sexual abuse against children is real, and it is a crime.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and sick and tired of hearing these lies. Report all crimes to the police! Just as if your car is stolen, you will not report that to the elders, why report rape to the elders? The elders are not law enforcement!
So, what happens when the parent is the abuser and the elder is the adult the child goes to for help? Do you still get to make that excuse?. Or how about the case of Jesse John Hill, who is one of the men arrested in this investigation. His criminal complaint is available online and congregation records were among the evidence. When one person told elders he molested them, elders had a judicial committee and Hill told them he molested 9 kids. Per their policy, they notified the Bethel Service department. What is your excuse for those elders and the Watchtower service department keeping that information from police, in violation of PA mandatory reporter laws? What is your justification for the pathetic slap on the wrist of his disfellowshipping only to be reinstated and back in good standing in under a year for molesting 9 children? What is your excuse for the cases where the victim or their parent does go to the police and the elders refuse to cooperate (California vs Simental, conviction of Clifford Whitely in the United Kingdom and the sworn statement of detective Philip Endsor to the IICSA hearings that states elders refused to cooperate with his investigation)? What is your excuse for an entire body of elders in Ireland being deleted by the branch officials in that country when they chose to call police on a known molester when the service department told them not to? What is your excuse for Australian authorities uncovering records in Australian Bethel of over 1000 child molesters and not a single one reported to police or child protective services? See the Australian Royal Commission case study 29, which includes video testimony of branch officials and Governing body member Geoffrey Jackson. Maybe you can tell me the part where he stands up for "The Truth" and denounces the commission' s findings as lies? You wont find it. Instead you'll find him admitting under oath that it is not "Apostate lies." There is a whole hell of a lot more to this than whether or not the victim or their parent goes to the police. Because of JW judicial investigations, elders often uncover more information and know of other victims. And anyone who works with sex abuse victims knows that mandatory reporter laws exist because family often cannot be trusted to self report abuse happening in the home. This is an issue of systemic, repeated failure to obey mandatory reporter laws and cooperate with police investigations and an issue of pervasive negligence by failing to permanently expell abusers in congregations as well as warn the outside community. Not lies. There are literally thousands of cases of them covering up this crime worldwide. Many of them have publicly available court transcripts and even video depositions. You would know that if they didnt spend so much time poisoning the well and scaring you away from researching for yourself by demonizing so called Apostates. No more excuses.
@@Angry20Something And your written proof of lying, cover-ups, and not reporting crimes is......where? You're repeating disinformation as if it is your "authoritative" source and, in fact, would take more faith to believe your twisted interpretation of the facts. Any intelligent person would know you're making a fool of yourself by suggesting that YOU have all the "facts" and the authorities, police, and prosecutors are completely powerless to stop such alleged crimes. I call BS.
Again, you misrepresent the facts: the most recent Shepherd book DOES have the direction that they are to contact the authorities first and not try to handle the matter themselves. Second, 4 letters were sent giving them specific direction on how to handle sex cases. You are not privy to such information as you are obviously not part of the organization. You really think we, the public, are going to believe you over information obtained right from the source and the police? There is no conspiracy or pattern to cover up anything. It's downright foolish for you to suggest otherwise as the laws and law enforcement is robust in Australia, the US, and other countries. This type of crime is happening all over the world and is obviously being handled appropriately and aggressively as your narrative demonstrates.
The one principle that the JW's do uphold is a right that you may have forgotten, and that is, "A man or woman is innocent until proven guilty." Thus, if a woman lashes out at you in anger and unjustly accuses you of rape, you suggest they immediately arrest you and send you to jail? NO! You want your day in court to prove your innocence! You fail to see the ultimate truth right in front of your face; the JW's would have no freeness of speech in their ministry, they would have no right to have children (because they allegedly cover up sex crimes and put their children at risk), and their organization would be shrinking fast if they practiced such "cover up" crimes.
Your stories are old, come from Troll websites, and have no written or factual proof to support your allegations. I too can search the internet and find ISOLATED cases of sex crimes within the JW's but they are ALL being prosecuted according the right that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Please knock off all the disinformation that you're trying to mold into some form of truth. It's nauseating, troll-like, and only makes you look like a gullible fool. The police will handle the prosecution of any and all perpetrators of sex crimes no matter if they happen in the congregations of JW's or in other religions around the world. But, be careful, your disinformation can be reported to the FBI or other Policing authority and prosecuted as slander, defamation of character, or a religious "hate crime."
@@Angry20Something I can't read all your nonsense! I will say it again, all crimes and criminals Must be reported to the police, not to your girlfriend or to your next door or to your teacher or to your uncle or to your ex-wife or ex-Jehovah's Witnesses on youtibe or your elders. Report to the police, they are well trained to deal with crime!
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Yes.
In Romans13: 1,4 quotes," The subjection of everyone is to the superior authority. ","It's God minister ,an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what's bad."
What is completely insane is not pedophilia as such because unfortunately there have always been cranks in all "religions", no, the craziest thing in all these dramas is that some of these criminal witnesses of Jehovah had been appointed by the holy spirit of God to become of the elders. With their new status, these elders had become beyond suspicion. They have been able for years to extend their hold over the poor victims. These holy spirit-appointed criminals prove one thing, and that is that the god of the watchtower loves little children and cares especially for their well-being. Disgusting.
The governing body are lying in their response.
So sad that they claim to be the only ones that represent the All Mighty God!😔
Religions do encompass your life
It's hard to believe what she said about elders. But there's always a human factor, so you can't really blame the organization.
Agreed. And I noticed that she's using terms and expressions that are over 30+ years old. So obviously this happened decades ago. Things have changed, improved, and I take these testimonials with a grain of salt. It's impossible for any of us to the know ALL of the facts and know exactly what happened. Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't spread the story of my life around like that unless I had some ulterior motive. It's highly suspect to me.
The organization is made up of people no? Blame who should be blamed period...
No. This is systematic around the globe.
www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/file-list/Case%20Study%2029%20-%20Findings%20Report%20-%20Jehovahs%20Witnesses.pdf
Someone please investigate Rockmart Congregation far back as 2002
This comment were originally typed for someone else and also sent but i copied and past it to this comment seeing that i at first wanted to comment on the main thread but then my eye caught someones comment and responded to it...."I think what people that's not part of the organisation fails to recognise to what the several different reasons are to why the elders do not report any individuality cases to the authorities which is solely based on biblical principles are one of the main reasons to why they're prejudice. When watching this clip it's clearly evident to me that this women is blatantly lying. I'm not saying she lied about her being molested by this 26 year old but she's definitely lying about to what the elder's response to her were by saying that they said she's a Jezebel and made her the culprit for why it happened to her. Yes the elders do not report individuality cases to the authorities, for very good reasons p but never will they try and withhold any victim or the guardians of a victim of reporting the matter to the authorities! The elders jurisdiction are within the organisation where their decision are based on biblical principles and rely on GOD to help them to make the right decisions knowing that GOD are the ONE that ultimately has the right to bring judgment upon those who defies HIS laws and principled. HE is the only ONE who can judge in fairness. Two days ago I saw a news article about a man who unfairly spend 35 years in prison only to be found out now that he were innocent all this time.😨 The point is that GOD justly gave the elders a limited amount of authority to were it comes to what decision they are allowed to make. Because according to the Bible and clearly evident all over the world that people in authoritative positions make very poor unjust decisions all the time, how can one expect an imperfect person to decide whether you live or die or how long would be sufficient to spend behind bars for a crime commited? Not only that but do you believe people can change no matter what kind of detestable lifestyle they have? Well GOD says people can change that's why HE allowed so much time to pass. He could've ended all the wickedness centuries ago but if he had millions who turned their life around wouldn't of had the opportunity to live forever in the very soon upcoming paradise. GOD several times have shown in the Bible how HE forgave several people which would've been put to death had they been tried in a court held by men. The point, which is also part of the reason to why no witness votes or partake and refrain from all sorts of political matters, is because they acknowledge the fact that the world in general are controlled by satan and the demons just as the Bible says and because of this fact they are wise to show their loyalty to GOD by following the instructions and directions of the people who HE choose to take the lead in helping and guiding as many as possible to firstly get to know who the true GOD is and show them how it is possible to have a personal relationship with HIM which are based on love and not for what you might gain. There's several reasons to why she might lie and try to, just like many others in the pass tried to spoil the abnormal good reputation the witnesses have all over the world. The question is why only report it now? For one i think she were a witness all this time but made herself guilty of something which made the elders decide to disfellowship her most probably because she weren't sincerely remorseful or someone else reported her misconduct and now out of anger of not having the privilege of association with the organisation and every witness that belongs to it. It happened several times as a means of retaliation. One recent example is the shooting at one of the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's witnesses where the shooter were identified as being a disfellowshiped person.😐 Anyway it's prophesied in the Bible that the nations of the world will unanimously ultimately act together and attack GOD'S people for they will see them as a threat against their rulership seeing that the witnesses all around the world unanimously are neutral to any form of political matters and pledges their allegiance only to their GOD JEHOVAH even though they are compelled by their GOD to follow the rules and laws of their respective country they reside in unless it contradict their GOD'S laws and principles, only then will they ignore their government's law and uphold their GOD'S laws and principles no matter what the consequences might be for an example, many countries had compelled their citizens to partake in a war being fought and even outlined the consequences of not doing so, because Jehovah's Witnesses know their GOD compelled them not to take up the sword for anyone doing so shall die by it and also are compelled to love and have empathy for their enemies just like Jesus who are the greatest example for when He said while hanging in excruciating pain and being mocked,"FATHER please forgive them for they do not know what they're doing". Yes the witnesses were learned that due to the world's ignorance according to the truth's teachings (the organisation of Jehovah's Witnesses teachings) which is strictly solely based on biblical laws and principles, the world would hate and despise them. Many had and many more will still do so which is by spreading propaganda against the witnesses. Many of the lies unfortunately prevails due to ignorance, some because those that supposed to be trusted are orchestrating it making it harder to see the lies for what it truly is like by those taking the lead in their churches or government institutions making use of patriotism to influence the mindset of the ignorant to thinking that the witnesses are part of the enemy just because they do not pledge their alliance to their country's flag not acknowledging that their GOD compels them to be good, peaceful and abiding citizens which every country should've hope all their citizens should be. Other will eagerly spread propaganda because they choose to do wrong or live a lifestyle which aren't suitable for someone to have if he/she wants to enter the new world where Jesus will rule as earth's King for a thousand year in order to restore the damage satan, the demons and humans caused both physically, mentally and spiritually, and then He will hand over the Kingdom back to His FATHER. Anyway I hope this comment were informative and helpful to see the orchestration of this woman's motive which are to slander the organisation's name of the Jehovah's witnesses who are undeniably the only people teaching the truth about GOD'S word, this being sincerely said not wanting to purposely offend anyone even though it's understandable if you take offense but unfortunately i can't be subtle about it. It's one of those things where you have to call a spade a spade."
Please continue to speak out we all have a voice.
No proof?