@@SuperMathsBeaverno joke the night after I watched this video I woke up at midnight to take a piss, went back to bed and couldn’t sleep for an hour because I remembered that tape
Ok but can we talk about how committed this guy was to film the arsons in 89? Like video recorders back then were the size of movie production cameras today. This guy stood there with essentially a microwave on his shoulder for who knows how long because of angst
In retrospect, makes so much sense to me that a teenage boy did this. The way he talks in the video screams "I'm a twisted fucking cycle path". I feel like I could have known this guy in high school
Exactly my thoughts while watching the clip. As a senior in high school who works alongside our school social worker and provides mental health sessions for students, I've seen enough edge lords who take their title to the grave and share this type of behavior. Definitely seems like a high school kid who was suffering from pyromania, a mental illness, or a developmental disorder, maybe a combination of those, and was expressing it in all the wrong ways thinking it would lead to greatness. I wish that guy had gotten the attention, support, and care he needed growing up. It's upsetting to see many kids like these neglected in their early childhood or teenage years that lead up to a dangerous act for attention or a concerning persona that ends up harming others.
You can tell by the color of the flame that this is clearly a California forest. Also by the dirt consistency on that rock, it’s clearly Red Wood City.
@@Bexorcistt smh insane how it’s bootlicking when i’m just defending the human rights of someone who’s got money but it’s not bootlicking when y’all beg for reparations for black people who didn’t suffer from slavery
When I was a kid my grandpa was an arson investigator and he would point out whenever we did something dangerous like “June. 1986. Oakbrook. Two dead.” Meanwhile I was just trying to light a candle
@star.surfer9446 you don't have to be a billionaire to be a wealthy elite lol. you really just have to be wealthy and influential, which he undoubtedly is
Yeah while I think their original video was the completely wrong approach, I’m still gonna support them because of how quickly they fixed the issues and listened to feedback and apologised
My friends and I would often go "stumping," where you find a random tree stump (or a big hunk of wood), write "you've been stumped" on it, leave it outside someone's door, and ring the doorbell. We had different variations - on a plank of wood, we'd write "you've been planked," etc. Now that I think about it, for the stump, we should've written "are you stumped?" That would've been more appropriate.
@@theflowerhead Critical Role had like a whole miniseries that resulted in them playing a one-shot in the that universe! Gotta love when creators make that stuff so fun!
I have just spent DAYS tracking down where I originally saw this case profiled, and I finally found it! It's in the first season of the original run of Cold Case Files on A&E. The episode first aired in 1999. It goes over most of what was here, but there's a little more shown from the tapes, including showing some of the arsonist acting out attacks on a dummy he was pretending was his father, and a reason for some of the spray painted messages. Thank god I finally freaking found it, it was driving me nuts! If you want to watch it, it's titled Fire Flicks.
I loved absolutely everything about this mystery file!! The beautiful sax Ryan ad, the ‘do you feel the thrill’ house fire demonstration, Shane’s grey morality regarding arson, the shenanigans, the aesthetic - just simply all delicious
@@yvaincallipso84and didn’t they stop right after the fire that had people in it? That sounds like someone who didn’t mean to hurt anyone and got scared to do it again.
I think with the knowledge that the arsonist is connected to someone named "Omar", who went on a week-ish vacation around the time of the fire that the arsonist filmed, and who likely lived in the area where the fires were being set, someone like Penelope Garcia could figure it out in like 5 minutes
not only but they could've edited it out ykno... apple is never knocking on their doors with deals. ya need real guts when you work independently like they do with a whole team on their back.
I like how in puppet history, its usually Ryan that says things that makes me concerned, but the in mystery files, Shane is like "he seems funny" about a delusional arsonists and Ryan is like "What is wrong with you?"
This is so funny. After seeing a story on this years ago, now whenever my brother or I refer to something sinister. its always with, "Look, Omar! Its beautiful! Look, look!!
I am sitting through the whole ad for the first time. I am enchanted. This is enchanting. I love the way Ryan says “Data Breach” and “exposed” and “This one’s for you Vinnie” I’m obsessed. Beautiful piece.
The guy who said he "thought about the tape when he went to bed at night" was definitely one of the people who fainted in the theater watching The Exorcist
I was born and raised in Redwood City. By the 50's it was no longer anything resembling a farming town. It had become a "bedroom community", a suburb smack between San Francisco and San Jose. It was filled with lots of modest mid-century family homes and apartment buildings. Around the time I was born, it was a popular retirement community (my earliest memories are of old ladies) and it had--still has--a large Mexican community. The areas that were newly developed with "McMansions" were technically in the hills, and unincorporated. The town just west of RWC is Woodside, which is more of a rural ranch community nestled in the redwoods. Neil Young, Joan Baez, Shirley Temple Black, and Joe Montana all had homes there when I was growing up. Sometime in the 2000s Redwood City experienced a huge wave of development to accommodate the tech boom, but that was long after I had left.
watcher is the only place that knows how to get me to watch the ads w/o skipping, love 'em every time. haven't even started the ep in proper just needed 2 appreciate Sax Ryan
Smoking is bad for your health, gummies are the best, especially Froot and drinks are good too! My mom loves brownies and my husband loves cookies. Do you ever try edibles? Takes a bit longer to set in than smoking but it's still nice and intense.
If anyone was curious, the emblem sewn onto the jacket is a US Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) patch (35F MOS). I’ve got a buddy who worked for them, so Ryan is quite incorrect when he said it was from “no known military unit.”
Tbh this whole case seems fishy to me. Not "conspiracy theory" fishy, necessarily - but moreso the guy's house just so happening to catch fire, allowing the investigators unhindered access is incredibly sus.
@@fuzzydunlop7928That part was definitely sus. I have to wonder if perhaps the suspect had the idea that the police were after him so he tried to burn down the garage to conceal evidence, or if there was some other...higher level foulplay from the authorities.
@@ernestschmidt8761Exactly. I googled “military patch with key torch lightning bolt”. The first thing that popped up was Intelligence / Security Command Class A Patch. LOL
As soon as he mentioned the animal abuse I immediately thought of the MacDonald triad of serial killer traits. We're lucky that tape was found and he was able to get caught before he escalated to anything worse. Instead we have a fun creepy tale about some burned down McMansions and a spooky home video
I think if the doctors think him capable of harming someone, then he won't be released. And it's pretty possible that he needs to attend therapy and psychiatric consults to be released at which point the professionals might know. I also can't remember if it mentioned him being released? Mental hospitals are a little bit different than prison
@@Olivia-cw6lu nah he wasn't , he still stayed in the area long after and lived a fairly quiet life until he died at the age of 45 , his name was John hannon search it up along with redwood city and hit and run , it'll come up he's been dead for 7 years
Damn, I didn’t know Shane and Ryan had their own show. I always assumed they split up after buzz feed unsolved. I’m glad I found them again, they’re funny.
@@santiv4REAL. I’m waiting for Ryan to start saying you should always talk to the cops and tell them everything all the time and wear a thin blue line shirt 💀
@@samuraisharkie that's an incredibly out of line comment to make about a POC man, doing a bit for a comedy video. Reflect on why you thought that was an appropriate conclusion to come to, and why you thought that was okay to say
Wow. I read this comment as making fun of the guy and I agreed. But all the responses took it so seriously lol Like, the idea of a monologuing "supervillain" is 100% laughable
Search up John hannon redwood city and you'll learn like way more , like his issues with his father , yearbook photos , and shit if you look it up it even says he's been dead for 7 years and that his mom's been dead since 84 could explain the beef he had with his dad and his declining mental health
Ryan: let me tell u about this really gruesome crime Shane: you wanna hear about this funny guy who wore leather The duality of this show it truly amazing 😂
10:04 Shane and Ryan saying "no more lies" has been spinnin in my head for days; I'm at the point where I'm mimicking them mimicking Paul Dano's Riddler
Why did this feel like Ryan’s excuse to set fire to little houses and growl, “How did it feel?? HoW dID IT fEeL?? HOw Did iT FeeL?” 😅 Also, sax Ryan with the crazy hair is deserving of a Shane extra long chef’s kiss 😘
I just want to take a moment to thank whoever's idea it was to put the sensitive topics in the description, and not just unaliving or murder but even more specific triggers like animal cruelty or satanic cults. Thats like exactly some of my triggers but ryan and shane are so funny and ive been watching them forever. I would really miss it if i had to completely stop watching just because of my stupid mental illness. (If i might suggest adding this to the ghost investigations too 👀) but whoever thought to do this. THANK YOU I GEEV YOU BEEG SMOOCH
some people have suffered abuse related to satanic rituals or unrelated cults with similar vibes. Some people might also have Christian-based religious trauma from their upbringing that could be triggered tangentally@@Chanel98baby
i'm not smart enough to know if it's more likely they're involved, or if the patch/jacket is misdirection trying to draw suspicion away from true culprit?
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I Never clicked so fast, y'all are awesome and I love your content. Keep up the great work
Is watcher watching me?!?
Can you guys finish the dungeons and dragons story line, it feels like if j.k Rowling stopped writing books after the half blood prince
Fun Fact: You are only considered a pyromaniac after your 2nd fire, which means that everyone gets 1 freebie
Oh boy, I better not do it again then. I don't like labels
@@Stark-Ravinglabels are just labels. live your truth friend
Which is reserved for the Apple Store ofc
you're only considered a _pyromaniac_ after two instances of intentional fire setting. you can't even steal the tumblr post correctly
@@bogwife7942 thanks for the correction! :)
gotta love the thumbnail referencing that one meme of the little girl Infront of a house on fire
I didn’t notice until I saw this comment omg
I was hoping someone commented about it!! Gave me a good exhale thru my nose
Oh I thought that was the iconic disaster girl.
Brilliant
Me too!! I laughed so hard at that.
Shane: “I’m not an arsonist”
Also Shane: “I’ve watched a lot of videos of fires starting”
you can be a pyromaniac and not set any fires lol
Exactly. Very suspicious.
Just constantly giving credence to the demon accusations.
@@beaniebee11 he can’t hide it forever!
umm yeah all you need is that moment with Shane chewing his tongue and laughing
imagining the police guy filming thinking he's going insane just hearing the faintest muffled voice of the arsonist's excitement in the distance
Sounds like the start of a film where this guy becomes convinced he has a secret personality and IS the arsonist without realising it
I just love the thought of John crouching down behind a bush while saying what he was saying
"i gotta go now" like their mom is coming to pick them up from arson practice
lmfaaaaaooooo arson pracitce😭😭😭😭
Nothing could’ve prepared me for how unserious that tape was
For REAL
all these cops were like “it’s so eerie” but come ON
@@mangoschaos6950 I think it was the cringe that was keeping them up at night 😆
anyone else think about Poe's law too lol
@@SuperMathsBeaverno joke the night after I watched this video I woke up at midnight to take a piss, went back to bed and couldn’t sleep for an hour because I remembered that tape
Ryan is absolutely killing it on that inflatable sax
He looks like slash 😂
MYSTERY for your SOUL
Yes yes yes yes. This is exactly what I wanted this one is a BANGER!
STEP IP YOUR GAME SHANEY BOI 😂
@@Ddalgiichigoalso early 1980s Kirk Hammett!
i know its crazy the AD is the best part of the whole thing
I love Ryan saying "millions of dollars of losses" and then immediately cut to Shane being just delighted.
Shane said eat the rich and he is so real for that
@@Frindle_Babbinalmost like Shane is rich himself
@@snoozehd60zamn i didn’t know watcher was a mega corporation
🤣 I loved that! He was like 😃
@@snoozehd60 Eat Shane. Got it.
🤣 I loved Shane’s reactions to the evidence against “John” being converted into stickers that say “uh ohh!” “ewww” “euuughh” “chirp?” And “yaak”
Ok but can we talk about how committed this guy was to film the arsons in 89? Like video recorders back then were the size of movie production cameras today. This guy stood there with essentially a microwave on his shoulder for who knows how long because of angst
see i was wondering that! lmaooo thats so wild
maybe thats why he sounds out of breath, for carrying that thing around while speaking lol
I gotta go Omar for this camera killing my shoulders!
In retrospect, makes so much sense to me that a teenage boy did this. The way he talks in the video screams "I'm a twisted fucking cycle path". I feel like I could have known this guy in high school
As soon as I heard that voice, I was like, "What is this edgelord teenager garbage?"😆 Not surprised at all.
Every high school had that one kid who was a blend of Hot Topic and stupid.
Exactly my thoughts while watching the clip. As a senior in high school who works alongside our school social worker and provides mental health sessions for students, I've seen enough edge lords who take their title to the grave and share this type of behavior. Definitely seems like a high school kid who was suffering from pyromania, a mental illness, or a developmental disorder, maybe a combination of those, and was expressing it in all the wrong ways thinking it would lead to greatness. I wish that guy had gotten the attention, support, and care he needed growing up. It's upsetting to see many kids like these neglected in their early childhood or teenage years that lead up to a dangerous act for attention or a concerning persona that ends up harming others.
…cycle path? 😅
I immediately thought oh yeah this is a high school boy
If this happened in 2024 those Geoguessr mofos would've had this case open and shut in .7 seconds
That’s exactly what I was thinking of 😂
'That looks like Redwood City fire'
nice. i'll take it.
You can tell by the color of the flame that this is clearly a California forest. Also by the dirt consistency on that rock, it’s clearly Red Wood City.
Tbh as soon as I heard "this is my domain..." I immediately knew it was gonna be an edgy teenager at the center of this case.
Edgy teenager that probably wanted some attention through commiting a crime, hm, sounds about right and accurate
Seems like something about burning down a village to feel its warmth... Don't remember the saying.
Shane looked like a disgruntled high school teacher forced to watch over a science fair during the outside bit and its amazing
Glad to see the return of Shane “eat the rich” Madej
so weird how yall are mad at mfs that just worked harder than you did
most of them are jewish you cant say that
@@woopoganntnt7379how’s that boot taste
@@Bexorcistt smh insane how it’s bootlicking when i’m just defending the human rights of someone who’s got money but it’s not bootlicking when y’all beg for reparations for black people who didn’t suffer from slavery
@@woopoganntnt7379 do you really honestly think that black people living in former colonies are not still feeling the effects of slavery today?
When I was a kid my grandpa was an arson investigator and he would point out whenever we did something dangerous like “June. 1986. Oakbrook. Two dead.” Meanwhile I was just trying to light a candle
that’s so brutal 😭😭
Did it work at instilling a deep sense of fire safety?
But I bet now you're cautious around fires, so it worked
I love your grandpa
your grandpa is hilarious
Thank you for specifying that this was a _deranged_ arsonist since some arsonists are perfectly stable individuals.
Professionals, even.
Like Shane for example
I mean, I know some guys who work in pyro that are very stable people but are more enthusiastic about their jobs than anyone has the right to.
Yeah, arsonists like this give us a bad name smh
shane: "seems like a nice part of the state 😃"
ryan :" its where the zodiac killed a bunch of people🙂 ... anyway "
Stockton is such a crime ridden city 😅
@@Unfortunately_Mickeynot true, these serial killers find people there all the time …. Ill see myself out
@@Unfortunately_Mickey Yeah there was literally an active serial killer in stockton like 2yrs ago
There was literally a serial killer in Stockton not too long ago as well. So it’s a meh area.
Yeah it is very much NOT a nice part of the state. Never go to Stockton on purpose
The effort Watcher puts into their sponsored segments is actually unmatched
Definitely makes it worth the watch lol
The why files too
Well, this certainly aged.
Dude was clearly unhinged but you gotta admit the line "And you tell me I cannot set fires" feels like something out of a postmodern literary classic
I absolutely cannot believe that people gave this edgelord the satisfaction of calling his cringe ass tape "disturbing"
that was a straight bar
Ryan: “I feel a bit embarrassed dressed as Indiana Jones.”
Also Ryan:
Ryan's in his hot era and he's caught onto that
@@estherdimaggio9156 Agreed
Im crying at the nord vpn infomercial with Ryan's "Careless Whisper" performance 😂
I actually exclaimed 'jesus christ' out loud 😂 but not in a bad way
@jessicalake944 I had the same reaction!! I choked on my food and said "what the fuckkkk" while laughing way too hard.
Hahaha 😂❤ exactly
The Kenny G cosplay killed me 😂
i dont think thats careless whispers ?
11:35 I love the ongoing trend of Shane just being a litttleeee bit of an anarchist
He's one of those anarchists who hasn't noticed that he's part of the wealthy elite.
@@aarondavis8943???
@@aarondavis8943 “wealthy elite” i wasn’t aware shane was a billionaire
@star.surfer9446 you don't have to be a billionaire to be a wealthy elite lol. you really just have to be wealthy and influential, which he undoubtedly is
@@aarondavis8943fairly difficult to live the anarchist life to its full philosophical potential living in a savagely capitalist country 😅
I’m glad they changed their minds about the paywall. Mistakes were made and I’m glad I can still support them in this way
Didn’t know of this channel until after the drama started, but now I’m watching all their videos
Yeah while I think their original video was the completely wrong approach, I’m still gonna support them because of how quickly they fixed the issues and listened to feedback and apologised
Ryan saw the opportunity to reference the disaster girl in the thumbnail and freaking sprinted with it
My friends and I would often go "stumping," where you find a random tree stump (or a big hunk of wood), write "you've been stumped" on it, leave it outside someone's door, and ring the doorbell. We had different variations - on a plank of wood, we'd write "you've been planked," etc.
Now that I think about it, for the stump, we should've written "are you stumped?" That would've been more appropriate.
Were you guys mormon?
So…are you stumped?
😂
10/10 childhood shenanigans
Wait what 😂 Everyone complaining about Nicky Nicky nine doors and y'all are leaving trees on people's porches 🤣🤣🤣👌 well done
The theater kid in Ryan was really shining this episode
You can take the kid out the theater, but you can't take the theater out the kid
Yes😂
@@FrstedPeachesMSPSame, I was a crew kid, I helped make sets and helped people with their lines and stuff, I miss it.
This has THE BEST ad I’ve ever seen. Love the sax moment with Ryan
I completely agree, I hope this'll become a reoccurring bit like how Internet Comment Etiquette did with NordVPN in the past.
@@theflowerhead Critical Role had like a whole miniseries that resulted in them playing a one-shot in the that universe! Gotta love when creators make that stuff so fun!
I was hypnotized and couldn't look away.
fr whoever came up with the idea deserves a raise. The first ad i havent skipped in a LONG time
I have just spent DAYS tracking down where I originally saw this case profiled, and I finally found it! It's in the first season of the original run of Cold Case Files on A&E. The episode first aired in 1999. It goes over most of what was here, but there's a little more shown from the tapes, including showing some of the arsonist acting out attacks on a dummy he was pretending was his father, and a reason for some of the spray painted messages. Thank god I finally freaking found it, it was driving me nuts! If you want to watch it, it's titled Fire Flicks.
thank you i freakinglove our community just sharin stuff
It's been shown on Unsolved Mysteries also. With updates
I loved absolutely everything about this mystery file!! The beautiful sax Ryan ad, the ‘do you feel the thrill’ house fire demonstration, Shane’s grey morality regarding arson, the shenanigans, the aesthetic - just simply all delicious
Nearly started skipping forward from the sponsor bit until I saw Ryan absolutely shredding the sax. 10/10 best sponsored ad I've seen in my life LMAO
Jazz sax Ryan deserves his own fandom 😂
PLEASE 🙏
That curly fro looked great on him. Tassel vest make everybody look ripped 👌👌
Saxy 😂
Breath of the wild ryan
Honestly, I'm with Shane on this one. Arson is wrong, but also its pretty baller that he went after new build mansions
With NO ONE living in them!!! It's basically a victimless crime!
@@yvaincallipso84and didn’t they stop right after the fire that had people in it? That sounds like someone who didn’t mean to hurt anyone and got scared to do it again.
@@yvaincallipso84I TAKE IT BACK he was definitely a budding sociopath lol I did not reach the end of the video at that point
@@voiddiovcomicscharacter growth lmao
Absolutely. I'm so tired of all the development in my town that used to be small and surrounded by nature.
Very much here for Shane’s "barbecue the rich" arc
I think with the knowledge that the arsonist is connected to someone named "Omar", who went on a week-ish vacation around the time of the fire that the arsonist filmed, and who likely lived in the area where the fires were being set, someone like Penelope Garcia could figure it out in like 5 minutes
Shane subtly suggesting we burn apple stores is how I know the ghoul boys are the good guys.
"Subtly" 💀
not only but they could've edited it out ykno... apple is never knocking on their doors with deals. ya need real guts when you work independently like they do with a whole team on their back.
Yeah reckless anti-establishmentism is so cool, especially when it's used as a justification for gratuitous violence.
@@johncallof8839You’re not on the moral high ground you think you are. 🙄🙄🙄
@@JannelleDavid-e5e What moral high ground would that be ? That suggestive calls to violence and/or indifference to it are immoral ?
I like how in puppet history, its usually Ryan that says things that makes me concerned, but the in mystery files, Shane is like "he seems funny" about a delusional arsonists and Ryan is like "What is wrong with you?"
i absolutely love that they're now also covering other kinds of topics besides mostly murders they did in their buzzfeed era
same!!!!!
I remember watching this on unsolved mysteries as a kid and being so scared of the voice. Ryan and Shane healing childhood trauma haha
This is so funny. After seeing a story on this years ago, now whenever my brother or I refer to something sinister. its always with, "Look, Omar! Its beautiful! Look, look!!
No way in hell would I be watching a random VHS I found with my kid. It wasn't nearly as bad as it could've been!
RIGHT omg
70% chance it would be home made porn :/
Depends on their age, I mean I don’t remember them mentioning their age but for some reason I assumed the ‘kid’ was an adult
Yeah 17 they said @@ChamomileT
@@ChamomileT Well they mentioned the son was helping his dad try to fix their car, so he was probably at least teenage, if not yound adult.
I am sitting through the whole ad for the first time. I am enchanted. This is enchanting. I love the way Ryan says “Data Breach” and “exposed” and “This one’s for you Vinnie” I’m obsessed. Beautiful piece.
I was going to comment the same thing lol - probably the first time I've not skipped a single second of an ad/sponsorship section
The guy who said he "thought about the tape when he went to bed at night" was definitely one of the people who fainted in the theater watching The Exorcist
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right? I was side eyeing Ryan when he called the video disturbing. If I thought of that video before bed, it would be '*snort* What an loser.'
I was born and raised in Redwood City. By the 50's it was no longer anything resembling a farming town. It had become a "bedroom community", a suburb smack between San Francisco and San Jose. It was filled with lots of modest mid-century family homes and apartment buildings. Around the time I was born, it was a popular retirement community (my earliest memories are of old ladies) and it had--still has--a large Mexican community. The areas that were newly developed with "McMansions" were technically in the hills, and unincorporated. The town just west of RWC is Woodside, which is more of a rural ranch community nestled in the redwoods. Neil Young, Joan Baez, Shirley Temple Black, and Joe Montana all had homes there when I was growing up. Sometime in the 2000s Redwood City experienced a huge wave of development to accommodate the tech boom, but that was long after I had left.
watcher is the only place that knows how to get me to watch the ads w/o skipping, love 'em every time. haven't even started the ep in proper just needed 2 appreciate Sax Ryan
You’ve really unlocked the secret to getting us to watch the ads.
raw sex appeal
Or...sax appeal
@@BlackRainbow84 omg lol perfect
@@BlackRainbow84🎷
Ryan: I’ve been known to set a few grass fires myself hehehehe. *SMOKING WEED*
I cackled lol
Smoking is bad for your health, gummies are the best, especially Froot and drinks are good too! My mom loves brownies and my husband loves cookies. Do you ever try edibles? Takes a bit longer to set in than smoking but it's still nice and intense.
@@annabellelee4535Edibles don’t work for me. They did the first few times but now, even after a long t break I can take 4 and won’t feel a thing
"I mean... I dont give a shit if someone worships Satan" lol i'm so happy this series is back
really messed up
@@trewic8678 not really lol Shane knows what's up
"Thank you, Shane" - Me, a local satanist.
@@Kinkywizardz2005Haha, me also
@@Kinkywizardz2005wannabe edgelord
Ryan’s oh no face after Shane says light an Apple Store on fire 😂
Ngl, the second they played the tape, the first thing that came to my mind was "this sounds like Shane doing a skit"
love that ryan seems to be fully committed to expanding his acting profile this season when it comes to telling us about sponsors
If anyone was curious, the emblem sewn onto the jacket is a US Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) patch (35F MOS). I’ve got a buddy who worked for them, so Ryan is quite incorrect when he said it was from “no known military unit.”
Tbh this whole case seems fishy to me. Not "conspiracy theory" fishy, necessarily - but moreso the guy's house just so happening to catch fire, allowing the investigators unhindered access is incredibly sus.
I was screaming that lmao
@@fuzzydunlop7928That part was definitely sus. I have to wonder if perhaps the suspect had the idea that the police were after him so he tried to burn down the garage to conceal evidence, or if there was some other...higher level foulplay from the authorities.
Came here to post this. It’s literally one of the first things that ones up when you google “Army patch with key” 🤣
@@ernestschmidt8761Exactly. I googled “military patch with key torch lightning bolt”. The first thing that popped up was Intelligence / Security Command Class A Patch. LOL
As soon as he mentioned the animal abuse I immediately thought of the MacDonald triad of serial killer traits. We're lucky that tape was found and he was able to get caught before he escalated to anything worse. Instead we have a fun creepy tale about some burned down McMansions and a spooky home video
But his record was sealed, so how do we know? Dude could be one of the active serial killers we don’t know about…
to be fair, the macdonald triad is an outdated theory with very little empirical backing that has been heavily criticized by a lot of psychiatrists
@Olivia-cw6lu Oh my god. That's a terrifying though.
I think if the doctors think him capable of harming someone, then he won't be released. And it's pretty possible that he needs to attend therapy and psychiatric consults to be released at which point the professionals might know. I also can't remember if it mentioned him being released? Mental hospitals are a little bit different than prison
@@Olivia-cw6lu nah he wasn't , he still stayed in the area long after and lived a fairly quiet life until he died at the age of 45 , his name was John hannon search it up along with redwood city and hit and run , it'll come up he's been dead for 7 years
I love the chemistry between you two! These shows are great!
24:55 Shane’s reactions to what they found in the garage is so funny to me, I don’t know why. 😭
My boy literally was the Joker.
“It’s not abt money, it’s abt sending a message”.
And then boom, house on fire.
"you seen about this? you heard about this?" the bit never gets old, boys
THE thumbnail of all time thank you boys 🔥🔥🔥
i wanna give props to the person doing the editing for the thumbnail 😭 this whole video is delightful
Damn, I didn’t know Shane and Ryan had their own show. I always assumed they split up after buzz feed unsolved. I’m glad I found them again, they’re funny.
Shane gets more and more radical each episode and im totally here for that.
shanes been radical, ryan just shows himself being more conservative lol
i’m with shane every time
@@santiv4REAL. I’m waiting for Ryan to start saying you should always talk to the cops and tell them everything all the time and wear a thin blue line shirt 💀
@@samuraisharkie that's an incredibly out of line comment to make about a POC man, doing a bit for a comedy video. Reflect on why you thought that was an appropriate conclusion to come to, and why you thought that was okay to say
the editing is SO good i'm crying 😭 Eughh.. chirp? yaak! 25:09
this is literally the only time i sat through a whole ad. please keep your saxona
As someone who was born and raised in Redwood City, this was insane to hear it talked about in any capacity, let alone arson LOL
unironically unequivocally that was the best nord vpn ad i have ever seen in my life
Shane supporting arson is such a vibe
Ryan on the thumbnail is giving the meme of the little girl smiling while the house burns in a fire 💀
Pretty sure that was intentional
I bet that's the dude's daughter.😂
Whoever is responsible for the tape and fire and the monolog sounds like a villain plotting revenge. What a supervillain!
This guy's a fucking loser don't call him a supervillain you're stroking his ego.
They sound like an edgelord lol
@@geordieghoulette7142 “this is my domain, my hell” 🤓
It sounded like a dumb edgy teenager who wanted to be a supervillain, which is pretty much what it was.
Wow. I read this comment as making fun of the guy and I agreed. But all the responses took it so seriously lol
Like, the idea of a monologuing "supervillain" is 100% laughable
That dove in the Ryan ad was the perfect touch. I laughed way too hard at Ryan’s dog pic and the way he says, I think this one’s fine. 😂😂😂
the dove sent me over the edge!
this has the best in-video sponsor ad I’ve seen on TH-cam lol. It’s watchable and I love it
this has always been one of my favourite mysteries bc everything involved is so strange
Same. Heard so little about it but it's very interesting.
Mostly because the dude sounds like a huge edgelord and kinda makes it a bit funny
Search up John hannon redwood city and you'll learn like way more , like his issues with his father , yearbook photos , and shit if you look it up it even says he's been dead for 7 years and that his mom's been dead since 84 could explain the beef he had with his dad and his declining mental health
Ryan: let me tell u about this really gruesome crime
Shane: you wanna hear about this funny guy who wore leather
The duality of this show it truly amazing 😂
The watcher sponsor adverts just keep getting better. 😂😂
10:04 Shane and Ryan saying "no more lies" has been spinnin in my head for days; I'm at the point where I'm mimicking them mimicking Paul Dano's Riddler
Missed you guy's so much, i didn't know you had a new channel! Much love from Georgia 🇬🇪 ❤!!
The thumbnail sums up this show pretty well
it sums up the channel as a whole lmao
i never want yall to stop, i dont care if youre both in your eighties, WE NEED MORE MYSTERY FILES
Edible kicking in just as Ryan's sax ad started was amazing timing.
Shane: I can excuse arson but I draw the line at animal abuse/mutilation.
Ryan: You can excuse arson?
-Them at one point in life (in my mind)
While setting the little house on fire Shane gave the vibe on a dad letting his son (Ryan) light the fire pit for the first time
Why did this feel like Ryan’s excuse to set fire to little houses and growl, “How did it feel?? HoW dID IT fEeL?? HOw Did iT FeeL?” 😅
Also, sax Ryan with the crazy hair is deserving of a Shane extra long chef’s kiss 😘
I just want to take a moment to thank whoever's idea it was to put the sensitive topics in the description, and not just unaliving or murder but even more specific triggers like animal cruelty or satanic cults. Thats like exactly some of my triggers but ryan and shane are so funny and ive been watching them forever. I would really miss it if i had to completely stop watching just because of my stupid mental illness. (If i might suggest adding this to the ghost investigations too 👀) but whoever thought to do this. THANK YOU I GEEV YOU BEEG SMOOCH
you're allowed to say death here, no need to put "unaliving"
"unaliving" tiktok user spotted
@@zoerice4227so?
Not trying to be rude but what about satanic cults is a trigger to you? That’s like if I said black Jesus traumatizes me
some people have suffered abuse related to satanic rituals or unrelated cults with similar vibes. Some people might also have Christian-based religious trauma from their upbringing that could be triggered tangentally@@Chanel98baby
On this episode: the boys commit arson
5:37 THEY DID
Honestly, probably the best integrated ad I've ever seen
Best ep yet! Feels like your finally getting back into your groove
You did it. You cracked the code. You got me to watch the ad w/o skipping
That NordVPN was amazing. I applaud whoever is coming up with them.
this is such a comfort series, thank you guys!! ❤
this is literally the best ad you've done, I actually watched the whole thing a few times cause it was so funny
This has been my favorite episode so far! Had that creepy vibe I’ve been missing.
i cannot believe i watched the entire nord vpn ad because of ryan's beautiful sax playing. i was dying😭😭
the grass fire joke was too good, I knew there was a reason I liked Ryan
As someone currently living through Developer hell in NC, I am 100% with Shane on this one!
Right?? Ryan doesn’t seem to know how much that shit sucks. At least that’s the most charitable interpretation
The ad break hits hard! On some middle school winter vacation in the middle of the night hard 😂😂😂😂😂
The image of Ryan "playing" the sax with a massive wig made me choke on my food. I'm dead lmao
That's a U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command shoulder sleeve insignia patch.
I was scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned the INSCOM patch.
i'm not smart enough to know if it's more likely they're involved, or if the patch/jacket is misdirection trying to draw suspicion away from true culprit?
I wonder if the fact that it was roughly sewn means that it was a homemade costume.
Could be relevant, or maybe a jacket bought from a surplus store. Good catch though
Yeah I was thinking “matches no known patch”? INSCOM has been around since ‘77 but I don’t think it’s ever been very famous lol
As a Folsom native, I’m taking Shane’s compliment to Stockton as a compliment to us
one of the funniest things about this video is that shane said stockton seems like a nice part of the state
22:20 I love how Shane ALMOST says that Omar sounds like the name of a construction worker and then thinks better of it at the last second 😂😂