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Getting Spooled? DON'T Tighten Your Drag.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2019
- If you are getting spooled, you should not tighten your drag. In today's video I detail what fishing reel drags are, what the numbers mean, and add some tips on getting the most out of your reel to catch a fish of a lifetime.
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I have a story from when I was a teenager. We were pier fishing in Panama City FL on pier park for king mackerel. So there was a tourist standing next to me, he had a beer in one hand and his rented rod & reel he got from the tackle shop at the front of the pier. We were just having a conversation, his buddy asked him if he set his drag, guy replied back I haven’t touched it yet. Next thing you know his rod is out of his hand and flying into the water. Looks at me then his buddy and says what the fuck just happened? He’s buddy said your paying for it and you should have set your drag lol.
Classic haha
That never happened I was there
joe burns whatever dude, this was like 30 years ago
I knew all the answers and still watched it. Decent video bro.
Honestly thought I broke my rod tip on the ceiling at 6:59 😂
😂
I can 100% relate I was fishing with 40 lb braid with a shark rig fishing a dead croaker with a penn battle 2. 6000. Man when that thing bit on it was awesome it took a 200 yard run the first time and about spooled me when I got it in it was 5 foot 4 and 150 pounds off of a nc pier
this happend today and how I landed on this video. thank you for the video. I lost a big halibut today but it thought me a lot. right after I landed 23 lingcod my very first in my life. haha thanks!
Took my niece on the prowl for some bull reds.
I wanted her to have the best chance and landing one, so she was using my prized, tried and true, best rod I ever had.
She and I started talking as we were drifting across the bay and BOOM....massive strike.
Jerked the rod out of her hands in a millisecond.
Some information I missed that’s relevant to the video:
Reel drag systems are governed by the torque equation (torque equals force times radius) In the case of reels, the radius is actually the distance from the center of the spool to where the line exits.
This explains why the more line there is on the spool, the less drag you exert. All else being equal, if the diameter of the line on the spool reduced to half, then the line tension would double. This is a big factor on bigger fishing gear such as 50W, 80W, etc.
I have been surf fishing on the treasure coast for about 15 years and have caught most species using 15 lb mono 20 - 30 lb leader a few Jack's up to 23 lbs I use a loose drag I'm out for the battle only " I don't eat fish " now I decided to switch over to Indian river wad fishing due to the high east winds and surf dirty water in the winter months coming our way .
So I have reduced my spinning gear to a 2500 series and 10 lb mono with a 20 lb leader remember it's the battle that counts the gear might sound light to some but by using a light drag and smaller lures it will produce more hookups and fun and it should handle fish up to the 30 lb range if things go good.
Thank you for your service USMC 1958 - 1962
Semper Fi my friend.
Are you back or on Okinawa ? let me guess an officer ?
I built the feel and technique into my muscle memory as a kid fighting fish long than I had to. ANybody else? It was just for fun but now I reccomend any new angler, especially kids, spend time hooking bluegill, crappie, or any other small fish with a warrior spirit on an ultralight rig and 2-4lb test and extending the fight and learning rod tip osition, drag adjustment, and even some spool braking and reverse even if you could crank the thing in so fast it water ski's across the surface. After a childhood of getting the most play outta every fish (without torturing them), I can't tell u if or how or when I dod what and how many times after I've landed one to be proud of because my head was just in the game. That's only because I practiced with fish and spots that I had constant access to. Without a trust fund learning it on a boat with big fish would take a lifetime. Now I can help a buddy and (if welcome) stnad by and quietly adjust their drag and drop small tips if I see they're gonna break one off. Only do this with permission tho, don't wanna be the arrogant guy that get's blamed for the loss.
It's really cool that drag strength increases as the spool diameter decreases. Most people mistakenly increase drag as the fish pulls out line, big mistake.
I love this video. One important thing you left out was at what pound
would the hook you're using straighten out? I use 1/0 Owner
Mosquito thin-wire octopus hooks when I am using live anchovies. These hooks would
start to straighten out at around 7 lbs. I tested this myself using a scale and a bucket of water. Set your drag accordingly to not just the line, but the hook as well. Great point about the extra resistance on the line in the water when the reel is peeling. I never thought about that.
i'll also say this, you've got a van staal in your thumbnail, and we need to talk about line lay. your drag will not pull evenly when the spool is getting dunked and there is wind and the line lay is van staal level which isnt' great. soft spots in your spool will allow the line to dig in and increase the amount of tension you need to pull drag. your line may get stuck if it is really bad. my suggestion is to end every day with a long cast and bring the plug in under steady pressure. if you're bouncing a pencil popper in teh wind all morning your spool will be very uneven. one cast at the end of the day works wonders to keep ahead of it getting super rough or losing an optimal shape. your saragosa will have a smoother drag range, and your stella even better. your older staals will get a parabolic looking line lay and the line will resist diving into the inevitably looser spool, but that parabolic shape also alters somewhat the pressure on your drag and will cause the rod tip to bump a little as the line works over the parabola and the inconsistent line.
we also need to think about species. you let an albie run. you put the brakes on a big striper. you have to. he will get you into the rocks. some of those fish are older than your younger viewers. they are not dumb. make sure your tackle is up to snuff, the plugs you're using have good wires, and you're regularly matching your hooks and splits to your target species and size and current and wave states. you can cup the spool, you can change your rod angle, and you will have to touch your drag from time to time. modern reels and boat reels like stellas have a very wide range. you can make a little tweak. surf reels are again lacking in this department. it's ok when the drag washers are brand new after a service, but down the road you'll get very little drag or damn near locked without a ton of play in between, and at that point i suggest cupping your spool if you need drag.
Lost a few fish in my time. Thank you for the info. Good to see a new vid. Always glad to see your vids. Take care and be safe my friend! Hope you catch a big fish soon!....Rick
Rick Haught thank you my friend! Tight lines 🎣
Hooked a tuna when I was chumming and tightened the drag right up and then broke the fish off before the fish had a chance to fight.
Nik Froud ahhh that’s too bad! You’ll get em next time brother! 🤙🏼
Brilliant video ,
I am a new subscriber to your channel and must say I really like the content. I can relate to what you are saying about Okinawa, I was stationed out there back in 2002-2004 and it was Awesome!!! I never really did any surf fishing there (I really wish I did) I was actually really big into freediving and spearfishing, especially with the amount of marine wildlife there is out there. Now that I am a bit older and can't really do what I was able to when I was younger, I've reverted back to when I was a kid and started surf casting and plugging again, and its' been great. The reviews and advice that you provide in your videos have definitely been useful, I look forward to your next video! Semper Fi!!!!
Leighton Amaki I really appreciate all the kind words my friend 🎣🍻🤙🏼
Been there, done that.😂
i have tape for rod building about 3mil wide and mark the drag setting also easy to take off don't like maker as have to use cleaning products when i have used them and they hit the line not good for fishing
Okinawa in about 3 weeks, like to offer fishing trip with myself and sons!
Good content
Just got spooled yesterday trolling the Florida bay with a 1000 size freshwater setup. Lol. What was I thinking?
stupid
I’ll take this info for open water like you said situational I fish structure a lot docks bridges etc. lost some big boys with my drag set to that 20-30% ratio I set my drag tight in these situations so I can get the fish out #combatfishing
Close quarters fishing is some of the most fun I’ve ever had 🤙🏼
Hi Ryan..... a bunch of free fishing knowledge... I'll take it😁 Not sure why...but when I was watching this video on setting the drag...I thought about the Cobia off the pier that u caught awhile back. 🎣
Evie Soto ahhh that’s one of my favorite memories! Such a fun day, thank you for watching 🙏🏼
Great instruction video Sir. Many thanks. Raymondo.
Mine was ultralight rod and reel talkin about 3 ft rod cheap real 6 pound test 40 lb catfish that was awesome a 4 or 6 wire hook
5:52 is what you're here for
Great video
Learnt a lot!
What happens when getting spooled and you hit the backing is it really useful at that point?
Haven't seen a video on this.
Hey mate I can answer I caught a 3m bullshark on a tld 30 with 30lb braid 90lb wire anyways it got me to the backing had strike set at about 6kg so yeh locked it up to full. Its the only reason I turned that shark and got it in. If I didnt do that I would have been spooled. So I dont get when people say dont go to max drag. Sometimes you just have too.
Great video as always!
Another great informative video. Thanks!
You the man!
Really nice video. Keep up the great work.
Gus Lombardo thank you my friend 🤙🏼🎣
So if I hooked and fish is running when do I start reeling in?
Also, do I need to tighten drag before reeling in after run?
So basically dont tighten unless i have pretty much no line left?
Great 👍 tips.
I had a 37 and a half inch snook on dania pier with a 4000 stradic the fish would not stop for shit so I palmed the spool and pumped like a crackhead for 5 minutes..... I caught my PB on a stradic while fishing for Sandperch FOR SNOOK BAIT with live shrimp at dania freaking pier. I'm only 12 and that probably the craziest shit that's ever going to happen on a pier with me😂
Unless your fishing in the flats and the stiper have no where it run and those big fat cows run straight to the rocks with the biggest barnacles - tighten your drag if your line can handle it. Fish of my life - braid cut above leader in the rocks.
The hardest thing is fly fishing for redfish directly under docks to where you don’t let the there be any drag and you don’t let the line get back on the reel so you apply almost 100% drag with your hand and hope the fish isn’t too big which a lot of times isn’t the case. I lost 2 fish last time I was out because I could not turn their head even with all the resistance and then they went back into the dock and broke me off.
Southern style Flies that sounds like an awesome challenge though! I want to learn how to fly fish sometime in my life 🎣
JunoRyan it’s definitely a fun challenge
Hooked a red under a dock, had my drag 100% locked. And that sum bitch peeled my drag for 30 seconds until he popped my line on the piling. Never turned him once.
Gabe O it’s definitely not easy
Tighten that drag for GT. Getting reefed off a $80 lure sucks so up the pe line,strong hooks and hold tight !
even with GT your drag cant just be locked, its needs to be able to pull line but not enough to reef you.
Hand on spool if you need extra pressure on the fish.
I have 20lbs of drag and 50lb braid all i need is full lock
Lol everyone uses that music for their into. ( not complaining)
I just use 100lb braid and lock it down totally lmao
caught a 6 foot european catfish on 20lb fluoro leader with a finger sized chub(fish, not what ya americans think ) and 30lb braid as mainline while tryin' to get bigger baits for the catfish, my big cat didn't care and took the small bait, ran 150-200yds at the first run, troughtwroo big sunken trees and literally stopped when I had only about five wraps left, than I went into the water, dived down with my rod, somehow got it out of the first tree(was stuck on several spots) than further downstream another tree, same ting, then I went where I had the water to my waist, it'd go like this: the fish would make small runs, than I'd slowly gain a few yards, then he'd run again and so on, I couldne't tighten cause of the light leader and small hooks, yet I was at the risk of loosin' the fish since I couldn't go further downstream or I'd be cut off from the camp, so I just did the best I could and somehow it all worked out and after a few last rounds after I had it the first time close enought to touch I got a hold of that fish(you grap them in the mouth, gives ya some scratches but so what), then brought it upstream to my basecamp, made som pics and a release video, swam off unharmed.
I had used heavier line as backing that day, never did it again, now I always fill up my reels as much as i can, it's worth the few extra bucks!
Please do a review on the daiwa dogfight
This reminds me when i was fishing in south bay florida, I had my new $50 rod and I didnt know what drag was yet. I had a bluegill on and a bass took the bluegill. Since my drag was still tight from being just bought my rod went flying of the dock and into the water
When are you making your next fishing video
nice
Why you ask?
As the amount of line and the diameter of the line drops, the total drag output increases.
Great info!
WeeJeeMan thanks ma dude!
Are you going to navare sometime?
I think he's stationed in Japan rn... idk if he's gonna be in FL anytime soon (assuming you're referencing Navarre Beach, FL)
Get em Boy fishing not anytime soon my man! I do live in Japan currently
If you’re wondering the Spanish Mac are in along with pompano , saw a cobia today as well
@@getemboyfishing7784 I was down in Perdido yesterday... might be coming down next weekend also. Excited to get my yak back out on the water for some spanish and possibly a cobia
Nice 👍 if your out there and spot any kingMacs let me know!😃
Whats the max drag on a Zebco 33?
I dragged one for half a mile behind my truck.
kayak fishing might be different, if you get spooled, the fish may flip you
Медицина в США can’t say I’ve ever gotten close to that situation. But I can imagine getting spoiled on a kayak being exceptionally sketchy 😅
what reel is @ 1:38
KC Gramer Shimano Biomaster
Open face
Semper Fi Devil Dog
Thomas L Griffin Jr. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thomas L Griffin Jr. GetSome
You ever going to do some bass fishing while your in Japan?
Hey Doc wassup?
Slammer 3 drag is terrible.
Haven't had a problem with it
Michael Rhoads haven’t fished one enough to have an opinion personally. Is it sticky? or just not a wide range of settings?
What a drag, lol
Jim Arnold Ba dum tisss 🥁