Here's why you don't put an aftermarket stereo in a Ferrari
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#Ferrari #FerrariDealer #AftermarketElectronics - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Ferrari owner: I want a stereo with bass that hits so hard it will blow the windows out.
Stereo shop: We can do that.
Seeing this comment made me think of a scene from DC Cab where Gary Busey's character is blasting the new stereo system he had installed and blows out the windows....lol
For some reason I read that in Arnold's Schwarzenegger Voice.
I remember working at HiFi Buys in the early 2000s, and an installer at a different store ran into a small problem. The newest 7 BMW 745i had come out at that time, and he was installing something into it, maybe an aftermarket sub or something--I can't recall. But whatever it was, he accidentally tapped into the wrong wire in a harness, and it fried the harness and also set off the airbags. One of the airbags that deployed hit the installer and knocked him out cold. I believe the price to replace just the harness was around $4,500 on this brand new car. That was way worse than any mistake I ever made as an installer.
Reminds me of this Menonite dude that used to bring his tricked out Horse n Buggy to the Royal Farms to blast his system.
@@theriotartist hate to see what a short circuit does to Mr. Ed......
Dealing with the electronic and build quality quirks of 90s and 2000s supercars is a very unique ownership experience but oh so worth it!
Hi Ed, I hope you have a great day :) you're a nice guy
Goodmorning ed
Can only imagine the look of the owner of the shop!!
I'm putting an sub behind my head and an amp in the frunk of my Aventador (if I ever get one lol). I've seen it done before. Don't get me wrong, I would like the sound of the V12 but I need my techno too
morning love the videos
The first time I set off an airbag I thought, "That's the loudest speaker I've ever heard." Then it hit me.
They are single-use Subwoofers
Lmfaooooo
Yep, it literally hits you, right in the face!
boom - tish
Underrated comment
Re the guy who couldn’t start his car properly. Sounds like the dealer may have not thoroughly familiarized him with the car or it was a private sale.
That's what I was thinking
So what is the proper procedure?
That's a design failure. Even if there's a reason to want a slow mode, the means of engaging it should differ from normal operation sufficiently that it should never be engaged by accident.
@@MatthewStinar totally agree!
Ok, I just searched all the internet and I could not find the "Incorrect" way to start a Ferrari. I don´t know what he is talking about. I know some cars like Bugatti and some Dodge cars have a switch or special key to get all the HP but I really can not imagine how can you start a Ferrari and only have 4 cylinders working!!!
I worked for a Ferrari, Aston Martin, Jaguar, range rover, Lotus dealership from 1988-1997.
My job for the dealership was installing aftermarket sound systems, alarms, cell phone, radar detector, and TeleTrac.
Back than Ferraris did not come with a sound system. Cell phones started out the size of a small briefcase.
To this day it was one of my favorite places to have worked.
Heres why you dont let the WRONG person put an aftermarket stereo in your Ferrari
My first thought was, "Did the shop not know how to disable the airbag when doing that kind of work?" Screwing through a wire and shorting everything out is more of, "Did the F***ing installer not know how to do their job?"
Exactly, maybe don't take your Ferrari to an audio shop that doesn't typically deal with those types of vehicles .
So Ferarri and automotive bigbox store parking lot mechanic is not a good combo?
@@lycossurfer8851 lol , best buy knows what their doing ok ? 😆
This is why, no matter the car, you disconnect the battery whilst working with electrics.
Now I want the Italian dressed version of Hoovie on VinWiki
Who is Hoovie?
@@rickintexas1584 Tyler Hoover, from Hoovie's Garage
@@djsonicc thanks. I’ll check him out.
An Italian dressed version of Hoovie would explain the car that drove poorly but he would not have purchased a new Ferrari, only a hooptie .
@@velvetjones1856 I can see him now..."Weezard, Weezard....I broke something."
My father in law has a 1982 Ducati S2. An amazing bike to experience and ride. I went to a ducati dealership, very nice, beautiful bikes on display, got chatting to the parts and service guy while sorting out some bits for a newer bike. 'Hey, do you guys work on older b..' before I could even finish he replied 'not the bevel drives' ( referring to the shaft driven cams of older ducatis).
Its not about taking it to a dealer necessarily, its about taking it to the right shop that knows what they're doing
It takes a good mechanic to know his limits. If a guy knows that "that" thing is above him, I'll trust that guy more than some guy who says he can fix absolutely everything.
@@Ephoros while I don't disagree, a dealership should be able to work on their own Marquee.
@@CrackedCandy agreed.
But as far as i can tell from a quick google search, those things are insanely complicated, and uses a ton of shims that can easilly ruin your day. My guess is that they probably can be talked into working on them, but they cant really guarantee work quality.
Finding some gray haired Italian engine guru would probably be easier and faster.
Ducati’s are like Italian women, passionate, highly strung and liable to breakdown in a spectacular fashion
Those motors were amazing
The ghost of Enzo was like you no like a listen my engine I’ma show you!!
The real reason you don't install an aftermarket stereo in your Ferrari:
You don't own a Ferrari 🤣
"So we were putting some screws and the car imploded..."
Having done audio video for many many years. Installing on these cars is quite simple. Hitting the wire is just a careful job. The dealership technicians are usually no better.
Wouldn't it be easier to call ahead?
I was going to say, this sounds more like a careless installation tech than anything else
"Being Careful" involves having experience in understanding Ferrari wiring.....Indie installers, by their nature, will NOT have a wealth of experience working on various Ferraris.
@@Kidsinamerica in most high end cars from the 80s and 90s. Mind you I was out of the game around s 2003. The wiring was pure crap. Especially english cars. A good installer period would have no issue installing a head and Amp on any of those late 90s Ferrari or lambos
A test light💡 is all you need ,12v is 12v right, as your 💲💰💲car Now drives erratically to the Beat of your(poor) 🤣music of choice./.do not tap into ECM loom, aux. fuse panel access or to battery & always a fused zap
Hearing him describe the cars is so enjoyable. We get it.
Totally agree, his passion shines through and makes the story 1000x better
great story teller
You know that the story’s gonna be a good one when you see, “ former employee” in the description of Eric. Edd’s given us some …
Indeed
I remember that American cars couldn't be imported into Italy when airbags first came out because they wouldn't allow importation of the"explosive" devices that set them off. I was shipping cars in the very early 90's, and it took a few years to get it figured out.
Should have taken it to Sounds Good Stereo in Woodland Hills, CA. We worked on high end cars all the time, including the 360 and 550 with zero issues. Most car audio shops have absolute morons for installers. 40% of our net income was fixing other shop's crappy work, lol.
Well seeing as that they’re in Central Florida, I doubt the dude would’ve taken it to Cali. Although, the dudes collection sounded pretty nice, so who knows.
Do you guys do all types like muscle cars or JDM or just European Sports Cars
Totally accurate. Majority of installers are hired because they installed a radio once so they have "experience" and they hire who will do the job for the least money. You usually have 1 guy that knows what's going on that the others go to for help. Central Florida is king of "I know a guy", where anyone you'll give $25 will put your stereo in.
Why not 40% of gross
@@K1ng1995 I haven't worked there in 15 years, but we did all kinds of vehicles. Classic cars, modern daily drivers, sports cars, boats, offroad vehicles, motorhomes... anything that could roll into our shop pretty much. Not sure if they're still around TBH.
I just redid all the audio in my F430, very straight forward!
You can short out any wire from stereo to amp and it will only blow fuses or stereo/amp will go into protection mode to stop any damage, I can guarantee the screw that he said sent through a wire would have been a yellow air bag wire when shorted to ground that would set of the air bags,or the installer lied and said the bags went of when putting in the trim screw and really he tapped into the airbag wire thinking it was a speaker and when turning the amp on that would have triggered the airbag pretty common fault when people try and cut corners, I run a car audio business
I never heard anyone putting an aftermarket stereo in a Ferrari lol
I would just keep the original stereo and keep the OEM look imo
Or add something Bluetooth hidden in glove box or somewhere.
@@fastinradfordable Good point or use AUX if it had one.
Well if you go to a proper audio guy you can still upgrade your stereo and have an OEM look.
@@pherron7471 I think by now, there is a bracket & harness set for almost any car made right?
@@MikinessAnalog These days yes. The car audio industry had to up their game with all these new touch screen, control your whole car factory systems.
I've always wondered about this. My cousin's husband does sound systems and he wouldn't work on any of their vehicles bc of all the new electronics in them. He had the same thing happen in a CTS-V.
I've worked on dozens of brand new Ferrari's, over the past 20+ years, fitting high-end aftermarket electronics. Never once have I had so much as a service code come up as a result of my work.
They may require patience and skill to work with, but that's certainly not the exclusive domain of a Ferrari service center.
Shame that lovely car was subjected to such egregious indignities.
I see a garage liability claim here to be filed against the installing shop. Gee, I just retired from over 40 years in claims, and I still look at the insurance angle...
im a med student knowing jack shit about insurance and still viewed this from the insurance angle. Kinda impossible to view this any other way, someone’s gotta hang for that lol
AV installation paperwork definitely has a signature section so that the shop isn't liable, pretty standard in the business.
That being said, so is making sure you don't drill into a wire, so who knows if the shop even had the waiver.
Never even practiced law but just from going through law school I cannot unsee the liability and negligence angles on everything.
Plenty of Mom-and-Pop-around-the-corner businesses out there could easily put dealers to shame in terms of their technical capabilities and work quality. That said, stereo installers have a really bad rep for really good reasons (there are exceptions).
A bunch of years ago I used to do vehicle conversions on direct import (grey market) vehicles. In order to pass emissions the fuel injection had to be modified. Often, the easiest way to do this (as OEM parts were generally not available) was with add-on systems that were connected to the engine ECU. After modification, the vehicles were tested at an EPA approved facility. It was such a facility that I saw a vehicle that had been modified with an add-on system for the fuel injection - connected to the ABS ECU rather than the engine's ECU. I always wondered if the guy who had done that job was a stereo installer in his day job.
The real lesson here is don't let people who don't know what they are doing work on your car. My son and his buddy tried to install an under-glow kit on a Mitsubishi Eclipse he owned in the early 2000s. At some point during the installation process they drilled a hole from under the car, through the floor board, and right into the cars computer. When you are drilling holes in a car make sure you know what's on the other side.
Man, I bet that aftermarket audio shop had a field day with their insurance company.
The not knowing how to start story reminded me of when I was in middle school my dad flipped cars and I worked on them. There was a v6 new edge mustang listed as a no crank no start. He won the bid for super cheap. Went to the lot and drove it out. It was a manual. Nobody in the entire auction house, nor the company selling it. Could figure out how to drive, let alone start, a manual transmission vehicle. We made a good amount of money on that car as there was nothing wrong with it. Perfectly running and driving vehicle. I honestly kinda liked it. Don't get me wrong. It was just the v6, it was not fast. However, the 5 speed trans made it very fun and exciting to drive. It gave that v6 some pep. I've driven a similar v6 new edge mustang but an auto and it was a total dog. Probably as slow as a Prius.
A good installer doesn't run in sound systems with Tec screws. We use Rivnuts, we clearance everything, we use connectors rather than hack a harness.
Wait so how do you start it “incorrectly”?
I always assumed you turn the key and press the red button on the steering if it’s not a normal key start model
Yes, I realize the problem in this case was bad installation (running the wires under the trim pieces and not reinstalling the trim correctly). However, when it comes to possible issues, it doesn't have to be a Ferrari or other supercar/hyper luxury vehicle. Wiring aftermarket stereos into most cars can be problematic, especially if you're not careful about what you're doing. This is because it seems that each manufacturer has their own standards for wiring. This is nothing new. I remember the time I put a stereo into my brother's 1975 Buick Century to replace the AM radio. Two wires, yellow and grey, came from the original connector. Got positive 13.9 volts from the yellow wire and a ground connection from the grey wire, so I hooked the power leads from the new stereo up accordingly. Next time my brother turned the headlights on, the fuse for the instrument lights blew. So I double checked everything. Turns out, the grey wire I got a ground connecton on was actually the positive wire for the instrument bulb in the factory radio, and the radio itself actually grounded to the frame. Once I realized that, it was a fairly easy matter to connect the negaative wire to the frame (I'd used a two wire trailer connector for the power leads), but getting ground from a positive wire is still screwy.
That 550 in Verde British Racing is gorgeous. The saddle interior is just perfect !
Can we get more Eric? Super relaxing to listen to and great stories.
The 360 start procedure is you leave the key in the 2nd position for 30 seconds to let all the pumps get fully started then start the car
Really pays to listen to your sales delivery person, when you pick up your car, Rj in Oz
The tittle doesnt make sense, it isnt the car fault, it was the guy that was installing it fault...
That Ferrari 360 in the pics was a friend of mines, great spec!
Love the videos, but we are due for a new Christopher Michales on again. I have watched the drug dodge video at least 20 times. He can really tell a story lol
...weird.
What is your dream Ferrari?
458
812 SF
F12tdf
Testarosa
488 Pista
I would pay a shiny penny to see security camera footage of the air bag pop. And you know you would too.
Regards,
Marky
I had this happen on a 2013 Nissan Frontier - customers took it to Best Buy to have a remote starter installed and they set off all the airbags
Who the hell brings a car to Best Buy????????? God damn that’s embarrassing as hell
My uncle and I were the only ones in our area to do work on high end and exotic cars. Everything from k40s in exotics,to remote starts in luxury cars we took on the jobs that other 12v shops would turn down
A place in NJ called NVS Audio did aftermarket stereo in my father’s 1999 Ferrari 360 and it was amazing overall (that was over 10 years ago) it still works just like it was brand new
When I was working for honda had a guy come in with a 2005 s2k he just bought 2 months ago. He said he got an evap code. Opened the trunk and it reeked of gas fumes. Pretty much looked at the ground screw they put in the back. They drilled into the gas tank when they did it.
holy shit... that must've *sucked*
a little jb weld here, a little rtv there... just like new! 😄
That’s dangerous too holy shit
If you replace the stock radio on BMW E36, you no longer get the "audible alerts" for:
-low fuel pressure
-low fuel level
-low/high oil pressure
-freezing cold start warmup warning
-door open chimes
-and possibly more.
Friends don't let friends put janky systems in
I had aftermarket stereos in both my 97 and 98 M3’s and none of that happened. That chime isn’t integrated into the speaker system.
I owned a stereo shop full blown custom shopwhen I was 18 till 31 and my experience with high end was easy leave stock alone relocate it amd run all new wires to all new components it’s not always the case but most times it’s best to do that ...
The installer literally must have shit himself when it happened. Or he prob thought he was dead until his ears stopped ringing lol.
He probly saw Enzo
I’ve owned two 360’s and it needed the key fob to be used to disable the security system before starting. There was no scenario where it ran on 4 cylinders so I don’t know what he’s talking about.
WOW that’s a new one!!! What a wonderful short, sweet and completely wild story!
With HUGE emphasis on the word, "Short"! 😂
Great story. Great shirt. Thanks for visiting Athens.
This has nothing to do with an after market stereo, it has to do with veing extremely careful with who you allow to work in your car if you are not capable of doing things yourself
A former work colleague bought a Porsche Cayenne Turbo S for cheap. Previous owner removed the existing head unit and replaced it with a basic Kenwood Double DIN unit. Cables were running semi-exposed along the doorsills from front to back. Also, the rims were changed out for a huge set, but was so cheap that most of them either leaked through the rim or cracked.
No idea why anyone would take an expensive car and destroy it with cheap mods. Anyway, this colleague got it as cheap fun to enjoy till it failed.
Add in: because the head unit can't control the backup camera, it would stay extended all the time.
Such a misleading title. He clearly said it that the installation/shop messed up during installation.
We need more stories from you Ed
"Let the dealership work on them."
*Tavarish has entered the chat*
Underrated comment 😂
2:23 best joke ever made on the internet
This has nothing to do with Ferrari, this could happen to ANY car!
Just do your due diligence and research.... many great shops that can do an upgrade the right way ...
That was not the fault of the aftermarket stereo though. A rule when working on anything is know where your screws are going. Especially with a car like that from that era. There is no way to confirm where any wire factory harnesses are ran unless you physically check for it first. But as far as electronics they don't know or care if it is in a Yugo or a Bugatti. Helps if the tech doing the work follows the rules. People should be able to upgrade their tunes in anything and not deploy airbags or break windows but a mess up like that can happen in any make vehicle.
Interesting to see a Mama's Boy T shirt. Great restaurant. Had lunch there last weekend!
The only way to work on enough of these cars to get real experience is to have dealers sending you work. Find out who your dealer uses for LoJack/radar detectors/etc and you've just found a shop with experience.
Eric: "So in the year 2000..."
Me: "In the year two thouuuuuusssannnnndddddddddd."
Whats that in reference to haha?
@@theherrderr It was a Conan bit in the late 90's.
I've never seen a Ferrari up close before until today, I walked by some kind of meet where there were 8 Ferraris, 3 Lamborghinis and 6 Porsches. They are really beautiful cars.
I had a new Fiat Punto (very small cheap car) in 1998. I had the same immobiliser as a Ferrari, the difference was that it did work very reliable in a Fiat.
I used to work for and I currently own a Ferrari 360… I’ve never heard of had an issue with starting it in such a way that it only runs on 4 cylinders unless one of the engine ECUs malfunctioned
Sees new vinwiki video*
*Why you don't do **____** to a Ferrari*
Me: lemme guess it caught fire
Ferrari Owners Manual :
If you want to listen to the weather report, turn on the radio*. If you want to listen to music, start the engine, and drive the vehicle.
* DO NOT attempt to upgrade the radio, to listen to music.
Amen to that!
Speaking as someone that installed aftermarket stereos systems in cars of this level around that time frame, it's not hard to do you just need to not be a hack. I bet they fucked up stereo installs in Neons just as bad.
First time I fitted a sound system to my first car I ran the power cables down the same side as the speaker cables. This caused a tempest and made my car sound supercharged. Live and learn.
I really thought it was gonna be the bass that shattered the windows and set off the airbags lol
That is really hard to do and probably happens 1/100th of the times you hear about
Mistakes happen, mom and pop or big box. I can honestly say Id rather the mom and pop as they usually hold themselves to a higher standard. I've worked at BB, CC, 2 large chains, and a mom and pop over 23yrs as a professional certified installer and even I caught the J1850 data wire when I did my own install due to the tape letting go as I put the door back on. Accidents happen. It also comes down to caring about your job and experience as well. Theres bad doctors, bad mechanics, bad delivery drivers, etc
had a friend with a $110,000 Carrera that had an after market stereo installed. they mounted the amp hidden under the passenger side floorboard. they used self tapping screws long enough to go through the floor and into the fuel tank. the tank wasn't full at the time the car was driven sucking metal shavings through the hole fuel system. and when the tank was filled puddled up inside in the passengers foot well. $50K for the injectors fuel pump fuel tank and new carpet
The guy who owned this did it himself. A good installer puts the amps under the seat or hides them in the Trunk behind body panels, or on a mounted board. Also a good installer NEVER screws thru wires running down the kick panels...
What is the 'correct' starting procedure then? How would you get to run on half the cylinders. Doesn't sound right to me
it runs in limp mode essentially if you don't start it correctly
@@fcscouto Read as, poorly engineered car fails to start correctly.
This will date me a bit, but I remember seeing new Ferrari's and Lamborghinis coming into Circuit City for new stereos. I remember wondering what would possess a person to take their expensive toy to basically a high school shop for audio. Granted, the stock stereos were subpar, but there were plenty of audio specialists shops in the area.
I remember the days when you had to use a bypass module and put the stock deck under the seat and install the aftermarket deck as some smarty at Ford put the anti theft module in the dam head unit thanks ford
So the aftermarket radio didnt tear it up, a bad installer drove a screw through a wire.
Change the title to Don't let a bad installer work on your car, period.
I think that the reason that the car starts on only four cylinders when it’s improperly started it is actually a good safety feature. Some guy steals your car he’s not gonna go be with outrun police cars if it’s only got four cylinders. Correct me if I’m wrong
There is one shop in the world that does audio perfect,its called brian’s custom audio in The Netherlands.
Its crazy good
Hey Brian, how's the weather over there.
Honestly, why do you need any sort of sound system in a Ferrari? The sound of the engine is all the music I need.
Love the Harrods F1 number plates. Took me a while to work out why i knew the plate
As an AST (Automotive Service Technician) I would never drill into the panel
There are many ways you can make a speaker fit your panel, my guy just made a amateur mistake
If you have to replace bolts use the same lengths O.E. replacement
Ed in background “brrrrr”
Brrrrr
Don't know of you guys are searching for stories but, I accidentally broke commercial export law over a slice of pizza
Interesting I have a great story about installing a Kenwood in dash navigation system in a 360 successfully, went for a ride with the owner who I learned about half way through ride was completely drunk. It became clearly obvious when we were racing a dodge neon srt4 weaving through Nashville traffic on i40. For the record a Ferrari 360 is not much faster than an srt4 than you would think it should it be.
Honestly tho that would happen to any car if you drill through a crash sensor
Alternate title : "The Most Expensive Stereo Installation Ever". I sure hope the stereo shop had good insurance.
Back in the day, Italian cars were notorious for electrical systems installed by a toddler group!,😕 Alpha Romeo and Lancias spring to mind
"Ferrari discouraged this" I wonder why...looks at 5K "premium" stereo option.
4:54 reminds me of when I put my service jack in the trunk of my xk8 and it shorted out the starter and alternator fuse. when I tried to start it up it just ticked.
This never happened to Crockett & Tubbs motoring down the highway with cool soundtracks playing.🔊🎵🚘
to be fair to the italian guy (especially at this pre internet forum era) ANY luxury dealer should do a FULL demo... I get that even today with BMWs and Audi's
Great story, I actually feel sorry for that owner!! 😳
I feel sorrier for the shop that tried to install the stereo.
My first guess before watching is...Ferrari will send you a cease and desist letter because "there is no such thing as a better radio than our factory system" and "if we dont stop this now, theyll be putting full sound systems in! And thatd ruin our rep"
Love Mama's Boy! One of the best staples of Athens.
I don't think comparing them to Hoovie as "an Italian version of Hoovie" is a good comparison and kinda a slight / insult to Hoovie. He might not mind, but, in my opinion, find a more appropriate comparison.
You should always turn your battery off and disconnect the airbag when installing new electronics. Is it different in a Ferrari?
Clearly they just went to the wrong shop. At Tint World Orlando, we just bought a Ferrari that we are doing a very high-end aftermarket audio system in. We did the same with our store’s Viper, and other fun cars that we own. Maybe we can make a video with you to show the right way to install a stereo in the Ferrari. 👍
01 Audi immobilizer is a nightmare. Wouldn't wish that on my own mother in law
Damn, it almost seems like the dealership failed to fully explain a new car to the customer. I just bought a brand new Mazda. MAZDA. And the dealership spent about two hours with me making sure I knew every function and ability the car has. Seems like an exotic car dealership could do the same for cars that cost 10x as much
or guy said "i dont need any introduction, im rich and i want my ferrari" and they just let him go on his merry way, after paying for the car.
@@bedeckt That is also a very viable suggestion. I know how some guys buying a high class car want to seem like they know their shit, when they really don’t. But you’d think the dealer or someone there would see the dude couldn’t start it right when he left
I have Never heard of the 4 cylinder f360 start up procedure. Drove a ‘99 modena in 2001 for a couple of weeks in Boston. Used one euro spec as well in 2002. Never had that issue
I’ve been in at LEAST 15 360’s and have never had that happen.
he should have chosen a reputable, experienced shop. Careless mistakes like the one that installer made is an amatuer mistake.
I once saw an amp cable WRAPPED around a side curtain airbag. The install was done by a well respected shop. 🤦♂️