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Great video. Actually considered the lift 2ez but wound up going with the BGD Magic Motor. Loved the quality and honest review of both sets of risers. Still learning here, not flying yet
Great video man! As a 2EZ user I agree with everything you said :) I am so pumped to upgrade! Hurry up with that video!!!!!! Btw... your videos are getting better and better! Keep it up!
Anyone that owns this wing should try flying it with both the tip toggles AND the brakes in their hands at same time. I even land this way for max flare authority. It will provide about 80-90% of the dynamic feel that the F3 does when holding both. I own both the EZ-R and the F3. The EZ-R is faster than every A or B wing that I have encountered, and the F3 smokes everyone like they are standing still while still being easy to takeoff and land at just a slight faster speed for both.
Not a necessary piece of equipment for a beginner motoring wing. If it was intended for free flight I would agree, but I only know of myself and one other pilot who flies with a bar regularly at me school. We simply don't put students in the air when bar would be required to make headway. It's a complication for every stage of flight if you don't know what you're doing.
@@AveryFlies Also, why would you not use 30-50% of your speed? I use bar on every flight. I even use the bar to settle myself in my harness (don't try that at home kids!).
@@glideamerica Don't get me wrong, I'm with you there! Although my "main" wing is just a mojo, I use bar every time I fly any wing that has speed bar pulleys equipped, if the air is smooth enough. But for someone just starting out on a motor, which is what this wing is designed for, it can increase dangers for novice pilots. I also know of some wings, like the Adventure Cross Evo, that have no speed bar because they bake all the speed system into the trimmers. That seems really cool to me, and I'll be trying it out soon. See my video on the EZ-R, which is this same canopy but with reflex-enabling trimmers and a speed bar system. th-cam.com/video/5c3saVe5F8g/w-d-xo.html
@@AveryFlies Speed bar, is a basic part of a glider, that every pilot, new, or experienced, can, and should use. Not as a preference, but as an important safety, and performance feature, that everyone, at every level, can use effectively, and safely. Limiting your flying speed, limits your speed range, and puts the pilot, in increased risk, due to less speed range, at their disposal. Less options = more risk, especially for a pilot with limited experience. I am an expert, in the field, and strongly disagree with this riser design. I think it is a dangerous step backwards.
@@glideamerica With respect, I don't believe the omission of speed bar is dangerous. As I said above, quite the opposite- while bar does give you more speed, it also increases the likelihood of frontal collapses. Additionally, the bar itself is a tripping hazard and can be tangled if not installed correctly in flight. Maybe you're having people fly in weather that requires it, but the school I learned at does not put students in the air when winds might require speed bar use, or when thermals are so strong you need it to prevent stalls. We fly over flat lands at wind speeds below 8 mph in the evenings just before sunset. Anecdotally, before using speed bar, I experienced no collapses and never tripped on it when launching. After installing bar, I have had 2 partials (at least that I've noticed) and have fallen to me knees after tripping on it once. I'm really not interested in arguing this point, you must have people flying in gnarly conditions to classify it as a necessity. If that's the case, then our flying climates are too dissimilar to compare. Is speed bar good to understand? Yes. Is speed bar a useful tool? Yes. Is it a safety hazard to fly without it? No.
I'm not aware of any controversies, have any light to shed on this? Unless this statement is in reference to the fact that they are based in Israel, which is a can of worms I won't be opening in a TH-cam comment section.
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Honest review. Good job
Great video. Actually considered the lift 2ez but wound up going with the BGD Magic Motor. Loved the quality and honest review of both sets of risers. Still learning here, not flying yet
Great video man! As a 2EZ user I agree with everything you said :) I am so pumped to upgrade! Hurry up with that video!!!!!! Btw... your videos are getting better and better! Keep it up!
Aww, you 😚
Anyone that owns this wing should try flying it with both the tip toggles AND the brakes in their hands at same time. I even land this way for max flare authority. It will provide about 80-90% of the dynamic feel that the F3 does when holding both. I own both the EZ-R and the F3. The EZ-R is faster than every A or B wing that I have encountered, and the F3 smokes everyone like they are standing still while still being easy to takeoff and land at just a slight faster speed for both.
Awesome
No speed bar, limiting your speed range, is dangerous, in my opinion. Speed bar is an essential piece of equipment.
Not a necessary piece of equipment for a beginner motoring wing. If it was intended for free flight I would agree, but I only know of myself and one other pilot who flies with a bar regularly at me school. We simply don't put students in the air when bar would be required to make headway. It's a complication for every stage of flight if you don't know what you're doing.
@@AveryFlies Also, why would you not use 30-50% of your speed? I use bar on every flight. I even use the bar to settle myself in my harness (don't try that at home kids!).
@@glideamerica Don't get me wrong, I'm with you there! Although my "main" wing is just a mojo, I use bar every time I fly any wing that has speed bar pulleys equipped, if the air is smooth enough. But for someone just starting out on a motor, which is what this wing is designed for, it can increase dangers for novice pilots.
I also know of some wings, like the Adventure Cross Evo, that have no speed bar because they bake all the speed system into the trimmers. That seems really cool to me, and I'll be trying it out soon.
See my video on the EZ-R, which is this same canopy but with reflex-enabling trimmers and a speed bar system. th-cam.com/video/5c3saVe5F8g/w-d-xo.html
@@AveryFlies Speed bar, is a basic part of a glider, that every pilot, new, or experienced, can, and should use. Not as a preference, but as an important safety, and performance feature, that everyone, at every level, can use effectively, and safely. Limiting your flying speed, limits your speed range, and puts the pilot, in increased risk, due to less speed range, at their disposal. Less options = more risk, especially for a pilot with limited experience. I am an expert, in the field, and strongly disagree with this riser design. I think it is a dangerous step backwards.
@@glideamerica With respect, I don't believe the omission of speed bar is dangerous. As I said above, quite the opposite- while bar does give you more speed, it also increases the likelihood of frontal collapses. Additionally, the bar itself is a tripping hazard and can be tangled if not installed correctly in flight. Maybe you're having people fly in weather that requires it, but the school I learned at does not put students in the air when winds might require speed bar use, or when thermals are so strong you need it to prevent stalls. We fly over flat lands at wind speeds below 8 mph in the evenings just before sunset.
Anecdotally, before using speed bar, I experienced no collapses and never tripped on it when launching. After installing bar, I have had 2 partials (at least that I've noticed) and have fallen to me knees after tripping on it once.
I'm really not interested in arguing this point, you must have people flying in gnarly conditions to classify it as a necessity. If that's the case, then our flying climates are too dissimilar to compare.
Is speed bar good to understand? Yes. Is speed bar a useful tool? Yes. Is it a safety hazard to fly without it? No.
Shame about APCO's politics...
I'm not aware of any controversies, have any light to shed on this? Unless this statement is in reference to the fact that they are based in Israel, which is a can of worms I won't be opening in a TH-cam comment section.