Sadly it has to do with qualcomm's deal with microsoft, they have exclusive rights for windows arm I think this is a very terrible misstep from microsoft seeing how arm chips are getting really powerfull
I've gotten it to boot on only 1 SD card of 128gb with 0.2 uefi and windows 11 by adding the uefi files to the efi partition of the drive by using a Linux computer to mount and open the efi partition and simple drag and drop and replace the files.
That's really cool, I keep reading about ESXi and other bare-metal hypervisors on the Raspberry Pis and might give them a shot at running Windows next weekend. Have you tried those out?
Hello Lee, Great to see UEFI boot update for windows on raspberry! But there is an everlasting problem, with configuration of GPU acceleration.. Have you by chance heard or read about crimson OS? It has not been released yet but theories reveal that it might just be a great operating system for the pis. I am interested to see what this offers. Just wanted you to give an update. Thanks for this video, helped me and is helping public alot! 😄
@@leepspvideo Actually, it has had an update, with latest snapshot kde release supporting wayland at boosted performance, if you wish to download and check it could you please confirm? So, my team and me as the main developer have developed this new kde release and it is not at all disappointing.. with addition to wide range of software (along with noteit an app developed by the crimson team) and avg memory usage - optimised for pi 3,4 and 5 currently. Later releases like XFCE, LXQT and Crimson DE will support all the pis. We have worked hard on this project and wish to give you the image file first.. if thats okay with you..
@@leepspvideo I shall let you know when the image file is uploaded with the link.. through the email. By the way I completely understand that you are busy making videos and you won't bother to respond and try a random guy's operating system, so it's completely okay with me. Whenever you get time! Thanks!
When it comes to games like vice city you could try forcing it to boot through properties , general launch options and using the text bar to manually tell it to load the display resoloution
Thanks Lee for showing me that I never get away from Windows OSes.__…I can run but….😂😂😂! I still find the performance on the PI to be almost that of the $500-$1000 Surface RT from a few years ago even with the Windows Bloat…that seems to increase with every update/version…😮! Have a great day!
Perhaps do the equivalent of "fitness training" with your computer and just learn to run a bit faster. It worked for me, I rid myself of my Microsoft abuser once and for all when support for Windows 7 ended.
insider 26080 must be faster than stable windows 11. Kernel have been rewritten with ARM in mind giving so many speed improvements. It's bad u feel like 10 is faster.
Whilst I still use Raspberry Pi and other SBCs for some applications, the problem now is that the Pi Foundation has, in my opinion, completely lost their direction. The first Pi came out in 2012 as a $35 mini-computer that could allow kids to learn programming in school or at home with Linux as a free OS. It was also released as an industrial control board, presumably because industry put up a lot of the money that allowed the Pi Foundation to get started in the first place. (It also serves to explain why industry had the priority to get available boards during the shortages of a year or two ago.) In other words, 12 years ago the Pi had a clear "niche market". Since that time, the Pi has been a "victim of its own success" in creating a community and support network (including its own monthly magazines and books) that has turned it into a "near consumer" device. The "whiners" on social media incessantly moaning about not being able to buy a Pi during the shortages when there were plenty of other SBCs available (albeit with less support and requiring the user to do more "DIY" to get them working, like the Orange Pi and Banana Pi boards) prove that demand for Raspberry Pi was from the hobbyist and retro-gaming / emulation enthusiasts. You can still fire up a Raspberry Pi 1 and do the same programming tasks with it that you could 12 years ago - but the direction of the Pi since then has moved away from education and from the industrial sector (that doesn't usually need high power multi-core computing solutions) to trying to satisfy the demands of those wanting desktop replacement machines. And the problem with becoming a desktop replacement is that multi core CPUs and better GPUs add to the production costs which ultimately meant the Pi got more expensive with each generation - something that I don't believe the Pi Foundation planned to do originally. Now that an 8GB Raspberry Pi 5 costs $80, it's easy to find a 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 used SFF PC on your favourite auction site for the same kind of money, with far more CPU cycles, 8GB RAM and that also includes a case, all the cooling it needs and probably even an SSD or hard disk. So, yes, I too have discovered that it's probably better value for money to buy a cheap Thinkpad than a Pi 5.
@@urbanknish I hope that in 2028 I won't have to find a cheap ThinkPad with performance surpassing Raspberry Pi 6 and which, in addition to performance, will also come with a hard drive slot, wireless capability, upgradeable memory, display, keyboard, ports etc. ...
@@SassyPants-00There is wireless on the raspi5. Also, with the PCIe port, you can possibly add an HDD (who still uses those?) or just use USB3 for any external HDD enclosure. What are you lacking in ports on a raspi5 though, I wonder? Agreed that the raspi5 doesn't have upgradeable memory or a laptop enclosure, but I can easily stuff the raspi5 behind any TV to turn it into a mini-HTPC. A laptop just has different use cases.
@@ShinAgro I understand very well what you're saying. I just wanted to highlight the following: When you buy a Raspberry Pi, you'll need to purchase additional peripherals such as: HDMI cable, monitor, SSD, mouse, keyboard, cooling case... etc. As a result, you end up with a mini PC whose performance is very weak. I know that enthusiasts might say I'm a hater, but that's the reality. With the same amount of money, you can buy a ThinkPad which, from any perspective you consider - performance, connectivity, upgradeability - is far superior to a Raspberry Pi. Like many others, I initially bought a Raspberry Pi only to realize that it falls short in many aspects. So my clear recommendation is to go for a used ThinkPad.
@@Roy_1Jeff Geerling only does stuff that makes Jeff Geerling get more hits on his videos. It's very well attaching 59 hard disks to a Pi, or connecting an external GPU to a Pi, but of bugger all use in the real world when you're trying to show youngsters simple Pi projects to get them engaged with computers.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 That has little relevance to the conversation, except to reinforce my point: It isn't currently practical to stick a GPU on the Pi.
@@Roy_1I don't have to consult you or your "editorial standards" before I post anything here - just so we clear up that small point. Whether you consider what I post to be relevant or not assumes I place value on your opinion - which is not the default case when any stranger on the Internet expresses an opinion to me. And if you read my comment properly, rather than "leaping" to your keyboard, you'd see that I agree on the impracticality of putting a GPU on a Pi, or most of "Wacky Jeff's" other experiments in shilling for views or showing us how wonderful his home lab is.
Still no GPU support for Orange Pi 5. You can try it yourself with this guide. The uefi boot has had several updates on Orange Pi How to install Windows 11 on Orange Pi 5 th-cam.com/video/Utvl8fxQ9XE/w-d-xo.html Windows 11 on Orange Pi 5, Pi 5 plus. UEFI Update 2X Speed boost………nearly th-cam.com/video/8pMMGnQQg6Q/w-d-xo.html Newer 3d game won’t work
I use this adapter amzn.to/3vChifB Occasionally I get no Internet on startup with later Windows 11 builds. Switching everything off then on usually sorts it
Or you just buy a little box with a intel N100 CPU. With windows 11 license and normal youtube playback. And guess what... It runs Linux too and in total is less expensive.
I have one Impressive Intel N100 Mini PC. Geekom Mini Air12 with 16GB ram th-cam.com/video/TrrW6HDYX08/w-d-xo.html It’s very good at running Windows, if you only have a Pi 5 and want to run Windows for something specific, the option is here
@@leepspvideo Or a 100 dollar cheaper one on the same webshop of mr Bezos. For 250 dollar there are Ryzen based ones with better GPU. (Btw why would a Intel based system not be better in Linux? Intel is one of the main developers of it)
You used the phrases "this is Windows 10 running on a Raspberry Pi 5" and "we've just benefited" in the same sentence. I did have a good "guffaw" at that one.
OKey, so I got Win10 running on Pi5 from a SSD drive, running fast, but 1080-Video from TH-cam is not possible...wish there was an easy way to connect a external Gpu, maybee from USB3 ....
Yes, I choose to use a separate sod card. The GitHub for uefi boot has some instructions windows 24H2 Arm. How to install on Raspberry Pi 5 & Orange Pi 5 plus th-cam.com/video/7r_pRB7woBs/w-d-xo.html
@@lianegen5739 wor flasher automates the process for 10 or 11 Wor-flasher simple Windows 11 install using a Raspberry Pi. Wor episode 37 th-cam.com/video/7SFSw0NT0zQ/w-d-xo.html Some usb sata or nvme drives won’t work
I use this usb Ethernet adapter no configuration was needed amzn.to/3VGofXG As shown in this video windows 10, 11 Raspberry Pi 5. NEW UEFI boot update. th-cam.com/video/M7c3LhTM_8g/w-d-xo.html
The word you missed out is "crowbarring" Windows onto a Pi - somewhere it does not belong in the first place. It's amazing how hard some people work to not have to learn Linux, for which the Pi was originally designed anyway.
@@RamonInNZI think a lot of people work extremely hard to find any means possible to avoid having to use and learn Linux. If you have to "strip down" Windows 10 or 11 because you need it to "crowbar" onto a Raspberry Pi or because you don't trust it to keep your privacy settings every time you install patch, then that is clearly not an OS that you should put any trust in anyway - and you'd be better off using that time to learn some Linux instead, which is an OS you can always trust.
Thanks!
Pretty good but the perennial problem with so many ARM devices is the missing GPU acceleration.
Sadly it has to do with qualcomm's deal with microsoft, they have exclusive rights for windows arm
I think this is a very terrible misstep from microsoft seeing how arm chips are getting really powerfull
ethernet, internet, wifi dont work, help pls ): @leepspvideo
I've gotten it to boot on only 1 SD card of 128gb with 0.2 uefi and windows 11 by adding the uefi files to the efi partition of the drive by using a Linux computer to mount and open the efi partition and simple drag and drop and replace the files.
That's really cool, I keep reading about ESXi and other bare-metal hypervisors on the Raspberry Pis and might give them a shot at running Windows next weekend. Have you tried those out?
I haven’t yet
@@leepspvideo that's alright I'm slowly learning that the ESXi project is no longer available since VMWare was bought by Broadcom :(
Are there drivers for audio and more?
Hello Lee, Great to see UEFI boot update for windows on raspberry! But there is an everlasting problem, with configuration of GPU acceleration.. Have you by chance heard or read about crimson OS? It has not been released yet but theories reveal that it might just be a great operating system for the pis. I am interested to see what this offers. Just wanted you to give an update.
Thanks for this video, helped me and is helping public alot! 😄
You have sent Crimson OS to me in the past. I am aware thanks
@@leepspvideo Actually, it has had an update, with latest snapshot kde release supporting wayland at boosted performance, if you wish to download and check it could you please confirm? So, my team and me as the main developer have developed this new kde release and it is not at all disappointing.. with addition to wide range of software (along with noteit an app developed by the crimson team) and avg memory usage - optimised for pi 3,4 and 5 currently. Later releases like XFCE, LXQT and Crimson DE will support all the pis. We have worked hard on this project and wish to give you the image file first.. if thats okay with you..
I have many videos planned at this time. Do you have a GitHub or website?@@PradyotPachore
@@leepspvideo I am making a git-hub and planning to make a discord server..
@@leepspvideo I shall let you know when the image file is uploaded with the link.. through the email. By the way I completely understand that you are busy making videos and you won't bother to respond and try a random guy's operating system, so it's completely okay with me. Whenever you get time! Thanks!
Great, thank you.
We need to wait for official support for arm with Windows 12🙋
No, you don't. You need to look in the mirror and smack yourself in the face a few times whilst repeating the words "I must not be so silly".
Not necessarily needed. But it would make things a lot easier. 👍
@@terrydaktyllus1320Best comment to date Terry.
Keep up the good work!
When it comes to games like vice city you could try forcing it to boot through properties , general launch options and using the text bar to manually tell it to load the display resoloution
Unfortunately didn’t work at -w 640 -h 480 or 1920 x 1080
@@leepspvideo thats a shame i got around 1000 steam games ill test some older stuff like far cry
@leepspvideo I would love to see you review the PiBoy DMGx for the Raspberry Pi 5 when it comes out. I love your videos!
Thanks Lee for showing me that I never get away from Windows OSes.__…I can run but….😂😂😂!
I still find the performance on the PI to be almost that of the $500-$1000 Surface RT from a few years ago even with the Windows Bloat…that seems to increase with every update/version…😮!
Have a great day!
Perhaps do the equivalent of "fitness training" with your computer and just learn to run a bit faster. It worked for me, I rid myself of my Microsoft abuser once and for all when support for Windows 7 ended.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Buttt, I don’t want to runnn….😥😥🥸!
Why can’t computing be easy?…🫨!☘️
Have a great day!
Wow!
insider 26080 must be faster than stable windows 11. Kernel have been rewritten with ARM in mind giving so many speed improvements. It's bad u feel like 10 is faster.
It definitely felt faster than the 11 build I was using previously.
Hello, I also tried it with Windows 10 Arm on a Pi5 with 8GB RAM, and I can confirm that it runs faster than Windows 11 Arm. kind regards
Also considering win 11 builds have x64 emulation
Honestly, I prefer a cheap thinkpad instead of the new Raspberry Pi 5.
Maybe the next version will be worth buying....
Pi 4 came out in 2019, so hopefully things get better for you by 2028.
Whilst I still use Raspberry Pi and other SBCs for some applications, the problem now is that the Pi Foundation has, in my opinion, completely lost their direction.
The first Pi came out in 2012 as a $35 mini-computer that could allow kids to learn programming in school or at home with Linux as a free OS. It was also released as an industrial control board, presumably because industry put up a lot of the money that allowed the Pi Foundation to get started in the first place. (It also serves to explain why industry had the priority to get available boards during the shortages of a year or two ago.) In other words, 12 years ago the Pi had a clear "niche market".
Since that time, the Pi has been a "victim of its own success" in creating a community and support network (including its own monthly magazines and books) that has turned it into a "near consumer" device. The "whiners" on social media incessantly moaning about not being able to buy a Pi during the shortages when there were plenty of other SBCs available (albeit with less support and requiring the user to do more "DIY" to get them working, like the Orange Pi and Banana Pi boards) prove that demand for Raspberry Pi was from the hobbyist and retro-gaming / emulation enthusiasts.
You can still fire up a Raspberry Pi 1 and do the same programming tasks with it that you could 12 years ago - but the direction of the Pi since then has moved away from education and from the industrial sector (that doesn't usually need high power multi-core computing solutions) to trying to satisfy the demands of those wanting desktop replacement machines.
And the problem with becoming a desktop replacement is that multi core CPUs and better GPUs add to the production costs which ultimately meant the Pi got more expensive with each generation - something that I don't believe the Pi Foundation planned to do originally.
Now that an 8GB Raspberry Pi 5 costs $80, it's easy to find a 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 used SFF PC on your favourite auction site for the same kind of money, with far more CPU cycles, 8GB RAM and that also includes a case, all the cooling it needs and probably even an SSD or hard disk.
So, yes, I too have discovered that it's probably better value for money to buy a cheap Thinkpad than a Pi 5.
@@urbanknish I hope that in 2028 I won't have to find a cheap ThinkPad with performance surpassing Raspberry Pi 6 and which, in addition to performance, will also come with a hard drive slot, wireless capability, upgradeable memory, display, keyboard, ports etc. ...
@@SassyPants-00There is wireless on the raspi5. Also, with the PCIe port, you can possibly add an HDD (who still uses those?) or just use USB3 for any external HDD enclosure.
What are you lacking in ports on a raspi5 though, I wonder?
Agreed that the raspi5 doesn't have upgradeable memory or a laptop enclosure, but I can easily stuff the raspi5 behind any TV to turn it into a mini-HTPC. A laptop just has different use cases.
@@ShinAgro I understand very well what you're saying. I just wanted to highlight the following: When you buy a Raspberry Pi, you'll need to purchase additional peripherals such as: HDMI cable, monitor, SSD, mouse, keyboard, cooling case... etc. As a result, you end up with a mini PC whose performance is very weak. I know that enthusiasts might say I'm a hater, but that's the reality. With the same amount of money, you can buy a ThinkPad which, from any perspective you consider - performance, connectivity, upgradeability - is far superior to a Raspberry Pi. Like many others, I initially bought a Raspberry Pi only to realize that it falls short in many aspects. So my clear recommendation is to go for a used ThinkPad.
why not stick an old gpu on the pi for win10.
Have you seen the Jeff Geerling video on using an external gpu?
It looks borderline impossible.
@@Roy_1Jeff Geerling only does stuff that makes Jeff Geerling get more hits on his videos. It's very well attaching 59 hard disks to a Pi, or connecting an external GPU to a Pi, but of bugger all use in the real world when you're trying to show youngsters simple Pi projects to get them engaged with computers.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 That has little relevance to the conversation, except to reinforce my point: It isn't currently practical to stick a GPU on the Pi.
@@Roy_1I don't have to consult you or your "editorial standards" before I post anything here - just so we clear up that small point.
Whether you consider what I post to be relevant or not assumes I place value on your opinion - which is not the default case when any stranger on the Internet expresses an opinion to me.
And if you read my comment properly, rather than "leaping" to your keyboard, you'd see that I agree on the impracticality of putting a GPU on a Pi, or most of "Wacky Jeff's" other experiments in shilling for views or showing us how wonderful his home lab is.
@@Roy_1get out argued
such a shame gpu drivers were never written, I had win 10 on the pi 4 to check it out once and it honestly wasn't bad.
I bet there could be a fun project with that case.
how many gb ram 4 or 8 ? can you do more game tests like unreal engine 4
I'd assume 8. Windows loves ram.
8, loads of games didn’t work as we don’t have GPU support
could you test it on orange pi 5 ? and some more heavy games like halo CE
Still no GPU support for Orange Pi 5. You can try it yourself with this guide.
The uefi boot has had several updates on Orange Pi
How to install Windows 11 on Orange Pi 5
th-cam.com/video/Utvl8fxQ9XE/w-d-xo.html
Windows 11 on Orange Pi 5, Pi 5 plus. UEFI Update 2X Speed boost………nearly
th-cam.com/video/8pMMGnQQg6Q/w-d-xo.html
Newer 3d game won’t work
Not everything that is possible should be done.
Does the internal Ethernet work or do you need the adapter? If you do can you link a few good ones that are compatible?
I use this adapter
amzn.to/3vChifB
Occasionally I get no Internet on startup with later Windows 11 builds. Switching everything off then on usually sorts it
the best way to run windows, is to format the hard drive and install linux.
cool. Will this run Vrising private server?
Not if it requires gpu support, they also recommend 16GB ram
Or you just buy a little box with a intel N100 CPU. With windows 11 license and normal youtube playback. And guess what... It runs Linux too and in total is less expensive.
I have one
Impressive Intel N100 Mini PC. Geekom Mini Air12 with 16GB ram
th-cam.com/video/TrrW6HDYX08/w-d-xo.html
It’s very good at running Windows, if you only have a Pi 5 and want to run Windows for something specific, the option is here
@@leepspvideo Or a 100 dollar cheaper one on the same webshop of mr Bezos. For 250 dollar there are Ryzen based ones with better GPU.
(Btw why would a Intel based system not be better in Linux? Intel is one of the main developers of it)
You used the phrases "this is Windows 10 running on a Raspberry Pi 5" and "we've just benefited" in the same sentence. I did have a good "guffaw" at that one.
OKey, so I got Win10 running on Pi5 from a SSD drive, running fast, but 1080-Video from TH-cam is not possible...wish there was an easy way to connect a external Gpu, maybee from USB3 ....
Windows on Arm doesn’t have gpu support
External Graphics card test with M.2 to Oculink adapter
th-cam.com/video/jeuOMDfY-MI/w-d-xo.html
Hi, can install windows 11 and uefi in same sd card ?
Yes, I choose to use a separate sod card. The GitHub for uefi boot has some instructions
windows 24H2 Arm. How to install on Raspberry Pi 5 & Orange Pi 5 plus
th-cam.com/video/7r_pRB7woBs/w-d-xo.html
can you make tutorial for win 10 on raspberry pi 5?
Please im struggling already a week to make it work.
@@lianegen5739 wor flasher automates the process for 10 or 11
Wor-flasher simple Windows 11 install using a Raspberry Pi. Wor episode 37
th-cam.com/video/7SFSw0NT0zQ/w-d-xo.html
Some usb sata or nvme drives won’t work
Please make raspberry pi 5 with ipad as a screen tutorial video please! ❤
You can use the iPad screen with VNC
Control your Raspberry Pi 5 from anywhere. Real VNC
th-cam.com/video/ikUH_wOesIY/w-d-xo.html
Is the SATA to USB adapter stable when operating on a Pi 5?
Yes, but some brands can cause problems
How to connect Ethernet adapter, Pi. 5 windows11 .plz make a video
I use this usb Ethernet adapter no configuration was needed
amzn.to/3VGofXG
As shown in this video
windows 10, 11 Raspberry Pi 5. NEW UEFI boot update.
th-cam.com/video/M7c3LhTM_8g/w-d-xo.html
can it runs geforce now perfectly ?
Better off with Linux. It can’t even play 720 TH-cam well
itunes still exists?
Only on Windows
But can it run Crysis? 😂
Hi Raspberry Pi 5 win 11 how to connect wifi connection s
Only with an Android phone. WiFi works in this video
How to install Windows 11 on a Raspberry Pi 5
th-cam.com/video/haeYUq4RHbk/w-d-xo.html
I guess you have to give Microsoft some credit for Windows being able to run on a Pi.
The word you missed out is "crowbarring" Windows onto a Pi - somewhere it does not belong in the first place.
It's amazing how hard some people work to not have to learn Linux, for which the Pi was originally designed anyway.
@@terrydaktyllus1320Yeah beats me why people continue to want Windows on everything.... sigh!
@@RamonInNZI think a lot of people work extremely hard to find any means possible to avoid having to use and learn Linux.
If you have to "strip down" Windows 10 or 11 because you need it to "crowbar" onto a Raspberry Pi or because you don't trust it to keep your privacy settings every time you install patch, then that is clearly not an OS that you should put any trust in anyway - and you'd be better off using that time to learn some Linux instead, which is an OS you can always trust.