Love hearing your processing of all of this post show! :) A note about those two boxes in particular - I wouldn't stress too much about getting Cincinnati back in, unless it's one you really enjoy displaying with the box. If he has a fancy insert like Pilgrim, you can always keep the insert with him, as the rest of the box is "generic". And for the WEG guy - that was a huge class! I took my WEG SM from the same collection on Sunday and showed him with the blister card next to him. Didn't make too much of a difference for Open since the way the classes are organized are different (double judged based on breed), but in general most newer packaging is a "nice to have", in this case having it or not for yours would not have changed much based on what else was there. :) The "what else is on the table" mantra is one of the most critical elements of a model horse show! Even under the same judge, a model may place differently between two or more shows solely based upon what is in the class each time. It's great to spend time learning what makes *in general* better candidates for a particular class out of what your particular interests are. :) Buy and show off what you love the most
Thanks so much for taking the time to leave a detailed response! I blame my ballet background for wanting to over-analyze every little thing I could have done better, lol. I thought you did a great job judging - there were SO many nice models in every category, I'm sure it could not have been easy. I also appreciate the feedback and information you were able to give in real time; if only there were a way to slow down time so it would have been possible to do for all the classes! I think part of my current collectibility fixation is that I'm reading two different collectibility focused blogs, as well as looking through both the book I won through the raffle AND Nancy Atkinson Young's Breyer Molds and Models: Horses, Riders, & Animals so my brain is getting filled with all sorts of new info and discoveries. My only wish is that I could download everything into my brain and have instant encyclopedic knowledge, lol. So while I do plan to revisit my wish list, it will probably not be as drastic an overhaul as I made it seem. Some of the horses I want are indeed just for fun. :)
For your second show you did really well. I'm in Region 7, which isn’t nearly as competitive & my first few shows - well I was thrilled with a 6th place. It’s better to show models out of packaging so judges can see the models better. Here, people just place the box on the table behind the model & bags with labels, hang tags & COA’s are laid next to the model. I’m with you. I’m so over Hamilton. I went to a show on Saturday as well & the ASB class was 32 Hamiltons. My glossy chestnut got 3rd but I doubt I show him again. Going forward my Moody ASB’s will go in Other Gaited to get them away from the ASB class. Next show my Livingston will go as a Spotted Saddle Horse. I’ve been showing my Blue Velvet as that but I’m thinking of switching her to a flat shod TWH. I’ve shown my Rocky Mountain Horse on the El Pastor mold as a Mountain Pleasure Horse & he’s NAN’ed. For breed documentation you must have photos of actual horses that look like the model & always site the sources of the photos. Good documentation can make the difference in breed classes. Almost all of my breed champs have documentation with 2-3 photos of different horses that match the model. When trying to find a breed for a model I start with a Google search of the color, look through the images for those that have a matching body type & go from there. So for my Rocky Mountain Horse on El Pastor I searched “Silver Bay Horse” as well as “Chocolate Bay Horse” then scrolled through all the images & took notes on the ones that had a matching body type then researched those breeds. Time consuming but good documentation is worth it. Judges aren’t supposed to be swayed by what’s popular but having the latest molds also helps. It’s a circular pattern. People like to show the latest & greatest so that’s what makes it to the table where judges pin it. Once word gets out that the new mold is doing well at shows more people buy it & show it. So soon all the classes are filled with a handful of molds & judges have very little choice on what to pin. The more they pin that mold the more people show it. It’s a hard cycle to break but it can be broken as long as some showers are willing to place a variety of molds in their show string & some judges aren’t swayed by what’s popular. Keep at it & those Grand Champion rosettes will soon be yours.
Thank you for the advice re: choosing a breed for a model! I actually have a silver bay model I didn't show simply because I couldn't figure out what worked best for him. I'll have to try your approach and see what pops up! Research is part of my day job, and I definitely know that how you approach looking for particular info can make all the difference. :)
Congrats on your placings at the show! Live shows are very competitive from all I've heard and from what I've seen at the few live shows I've gone to. I've heard how some models do very well in some regions while they never place in other regions. Then there's always the idea of what else is on the table and sometimes that can make a big difference. I have a twin to your little Hartland tinymite! I'm listening to you describe him and going, OMG I've got that one! I don't remember where I picked him up but he was cute so I purchased him. I never realized he was such a limited run! don't mind me if I jot this information down. I wonder if Brahms might do better as an Appy/Warmblood cross. And I think there's an Appaloosa Sport horse out there but I haven't ever shown any models under that type so I'm not sure what the breed specs are. He's a lovely model and I love the one solid leg!
The Hamiltons lol, I feel like that's what's going to happen in the Breyer Bootcamp photo show I'm entering: a bunch of Hamiltons and then just my mix of other molds
Forget to mention in my other comment that Huck does fairly well as a Morab or a National Show Horse here in Region 7. Atlantis Bey V makes a nice Gidran Arabian, which goes in the Sport Division. Huck just doesn’t do well in the Arabian class because of the new Arabian molds (Ashquar, Shagya & the mare who’s front legs are so far forward that there’s no possible way they could be connected to her shoulder). So it’s best to get him out of the Arabian class.
Yeah, the weather apparently kept several people at home, which is too bad but sadly not unusual for New England at this time of the year! I've been hearing rumblings of another show in August, so hopefully then. :)
Try having a performance judge deliberately mess your setup up cause she doesn't like you. I had 3 judges do that to me a few times. That's why I stopped showing in performance. And the last few shows I went to , I showed halter only and had all but 2 horses DQ'd cause another shower who didn't like me told the judge a bunch of lies. So, I stopped showing all together. My last live show was in 2016.
Oof, I'm sorry you experienced that - I think those things would put anyone off of showing! Luckily the judges in my region are very fair, but as I mentioned in the video, competition is tough here, at all levels.
Love hearing your processing of all of this post show! :)
A note about those two boxes in particular - I wouldn't stress too much about getting Cincinnati back in, unless it's one you really enjoy displaying with the box. If he has a fancy insert like Pilgrim, you can always keep the insert with him, as the rest of the box is "generic". And for the WEG guy - that was a huge class! I took my WEG SM from the same collection on Sunday and showed him with the blister card next to him. Didn't make too much of a difference for Open since the way the classes are organized are different (double judged based on breed), but in general most newer packaging is a "nice to have", in this case having it or not for yours would not have changed much based on what else was there. :)
The "what else is on the table" mantra is one of the most critical elements of a model horse show! Even under the same judge, a model may place differently between two or more shows solely based upon what is in the class each time. It's great to spend time learning what makes *in general* better candidates for a particular class out of what your particular interests are. :) Buy and show off what you love the most
Thanks so much for taking the time to leave a detailed response! I blame my ballet background for wanting to over-analyze every little thing I could have done better, lol. I thought you did a great job judging - there were SO many nice models in every category, I'm sure it could not have been easy. I also appreciate the feedback and information you were able to give in real time; if only there were a way to slow down time so it would have been possible to do for all the classes!
I think part of my current collectibility fixation is that I'm reading two different collectibility focused blogs, as well as looking through both the book I won through the raffle AND Nancy Atkinson Young's Breyer Molds and Models: Horses, Riders, & Animals so my brain is getting filled with all sorts of new info and discoveries. My only wish is that I could download everything into my brain and have instant encyclopedic knowledge, lol. So while I do plan to revisit my wish list, it will probably not be as drastic an overhaul as I made it seem. Some of the horses I want are indeed just for fun. :)
For your second show you did really well. I'm in Region 7, which isn’t nearly as competitive & my first few shows - well I was thrilled with a 6th place.
It’s better to show models out of packaging so judges can see the models better. Here, people just place the box on the table behind the model & bags with labels, hang tags & COA’s are laid next to the model.
I’m with you. I’m so over Hamilton. I went to a show on Saturday as well & the ASB class was 32 Hamiltons. My glossy chestnut got 3rd but I doubt I show him again. Going forward my Moody ASB’s will go in Other Gaited to get them away from the ASB class. Next show my Livingston will go as a Spotted Saddle Horse. I’ve been showing my Blue Velvet as that but I’m thinking of switching her to a flat shod TWH. I’ve shown my Rocky Mountain Horse on the El Pastor mold as a Mountain Pleasure Horse & he’s NAN’ed.
For breed documentation you must have photos of actual horses that look like the model & always site the sources of the photos. Good documentation can make the difference in breed classes. Almost all of my breed champs have documentation with 2-3 photos of different horses that match the model. When trying to find a breed for a model I start with a Google search of the color, look through the images for those that have a matching body type & go from there. So for my Rocky Mountain Horse on El Pastor I searched “Silver Bay Horse” as well as “Chocolate Bay Horse” then scrolled through all the images & took notes on the ones that had a matching body type then researched those breeds. Time consuming but good documentation is worth it.
Judges aren’t supposed to be swayed by what’s popular but having the latest molds also helps. It’s a circular pattern. People like to show the latest & greatest so that’s what makes it to the table where judges pin it. Once word gets out that the new mold is doing well at shows more people buy it & show it. So soon all the classes are filled with a handful of molds & judges have very little choice on what to pin. The more they pin that mold the more people show it. It’s a hard cycle to break but it can be broken as long as some showers are willing to place a variety of molds in their show string & some judges aren’t swayed by what’s popular.
Keep at it & those Grand Champion rosettes will soon be yours.
Thank you for the advice re: choosing a breed for a model! I actually have a silver bay model I didn't show simply because I couldn't figure out what worked best for him. I'll have to try your approach and see what pops up! Research is part of my day job, and I definitely know that how you approach looking for particular info can make all the difference. :)
Congrats on your placings at the show! Live shows are very competitive from all I've heard and from what I've seen at the few live shows I've gone to. I've heard how some models do very well in some regions while they never place in other regions. Then there's always the idea of what else is on the table and sometimes that can make a big difference.
I have a twin to your little Hartland tinymite! I'm listening to you describe him and going, OMG I've got that one! I don't remember where I picked him up but he was cute so I purchased him. I never realized he was such a limited run! don't mind me if I jot this information down.
I wonder if Brahms might do better as an Appy/Warmblood cross. And I think there's an Appaloosa Sport horse out there but I haven't ever shown any models under that type so I'm not sure what the breed specs are. He's a lovely model and I love the one solid leg!
Rock on 🤘 🐴
Also congrats on all your placings!!
Thanks!
“My love is conditional.” Ok Lmao 😂
I don't play, lol.
The Hamiltons lol, I feel like that's what's going to happen in the Breyer Bootcamp photo show I'm entering: a bunch of Hamiltons and then just my mix of other molds
Best of luck on the photo show! Like every trend, the Hamiltons will eventually pass...I hope, lol.
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Great video
Thank you!
Forget to mention in my other comment that Huck does fairly well as a Morab or a National Show Horse here in Region 7. Atlantis Bey V makes a nice Gidran Arabian, which goes in the Sport Division. Huck just doesn’t do well in the Arabian class because of the new Arabian molds (Ashquar, Shagya & the mare who’s front legs are so far forward that there’s no possible way they could be connected to her shoulder). So it’s best to get him
out of the Arabian class.
Thanks for the suggestions! I will definitely reconsider my breed assignment for him next time.
I was so hoping to be able to go but the weather was so bad. Hopefully I’ll be able to get to one soon! Region 10 is so competitve😅
Yeah, the weather apparently kept several people at home, which is too bad but sadly not unusual for New England at this time of the year! I've been hearing rumblings of another show in August, so hopefully then. :)
Try having a performance judge deliberately mess your setup up cause she doesn't like you. I had 3 judges do that to me a few times.
That's why I stopped showing in performance. And the last few shows I went to , I showed halter only and had all but 2 horses DQ'd cause another shower who didn't like me told the judge a bunch of lies. So, I stopped showing all together. My last live show was in 2016.
Oof, I'm sorry you experienced that - I think those things would put anyone off of showing! Luckily the judges in my region are very fair, but as I mentioned in the video, competition is tough here, at all levels.