Hey guys, welcome back. We're finally in live retail and pushing our gear score. Here is a decent heroic stonevault to showcase the ret paladin in its current state. Thanks for watching/subscribing
I don’t think it will get any nerfs. I love it so much. Most fun I ever had playing this game in 20 years. Also love that it takes less skill to play optimally
@@moreauclement9702 I played it on the beta and thats not completly true..its doing really great on single target also in m+. How is it in raid that i do not know😊
Nice damage. I also play ret and it is feels amazing . I don’t understand why other content creators rank it so low tier. I hope ret will perform in pvp too. However I am afraid that they gonna nerf it rather than buff other classes.
Thanks so much. It does feel amazing. Hammer of light is such a fun button to press, feels good compared to a lot of other classes. Ret always great in pvp due to survivability, rated pvp little tougher but they should still be a solid choice. Thanks so much for your sub/watching!!
@@EpicGameVaultTV if only we got a littlebit more movility to hunt frost mages would be awesome, and some reduce healing talent, that would make us OP! hahaha. God save Ret Palys!
Problem I find with ret is 2 things: 1. Single target is so, so lacking. I play both ret and ww monk and holy fking cow does ww monk annhilate ret or what. Okay sure they do more, but ret can’t compete with DK, DH, WW, mage, at least buff it maybe 15%. Secondly, why is our mobility so absolutely god awful? Why can’t every spec get to do mounted combat while in the open world? Or at LEAST pally along with dk?
Yes Ret single target right now is pretty bad. Typically I have no problem keeping up with WW monk in keys, moreso on trash than on bosses. But, not so sure about raid. Would be nice to see a ret buff, but not looking like it will happen. Still, ret is a solid choice this season I'ld put them on A tier, Top B tier at worst. Unless you plan on pushing over 3k io or doing mythic raiding. Then might want to look at something more meta. Thanks for the watch/subscribe - I definitely appreciate you guys!!
Well. Things are dying in 5seconds, of course Ret is powerfull when you can spend Wake and HoL and then the pack is over. Other classes needs some seconds to DPS and will do 20% more damages as you. Your video is kinda troll because HC Dungeons or Raids are useless to see class tuning. In MM+ or Raid you will see that Ret is mid tier / low tier without any buff.
Thanks for you comment. You should check some of my other videos from beta. Doing +5 - 10s where packs live a lot longer. Not much different result b/c cooldowns just come back up again and can use them several times. I've said it before in many other videos that Ret is not meta, more like low A tier or top of B. But unless you are pushing 3k or higher rating, or mythic raiding, then ret is still very strong. Right now all we have is heroic dgs, so ofc I'm going to post current content ;p
@@EpicGameVaultTV I LOVE how hard every one is coping with ret pally right now. "Oh it doesnt scale! only doing dps because packs die quick!" I got some baaad news for em.
@@bonesy7709 Yeah ret pally may not be meta, and its ST is kinda bad but since the revamp in DF ret has been and will continue to be a solid choice for all content due to extremely good aoe and survivability. Thanks for your comment!!
Hi Marcsansum, my talents are shown 0:03 and my gear a few seconds later. Thanks so much for the watch/sub!! th-cam.com/video/M7GaCuom_Mk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m55R8JMYMQzj6Myi&t=3
I played over a month of beta doing 10-12s on both fort and tyrannical. Ret performed excellent even compared to Meta classes. They typically do more DPS than other classes on trash and less on bosses. Pretty much what you would expect. Thanks for your comment
Hey guys, welcome back. We're finally in live retail and pushing our gear score. Here is a decent heroic stonevault to showcase the ret paladin in its current state. Thanks for watching/subscribing
That's some serious damage you were cranking out, even compared to the DK and DH. Great job and keep 'em coming, fellow ret.
thank you sir!!
I don’t think it will get any nerfs. I love it so much. Most fun I ever had playing this game in 20 years. Also love that it takes less skill to play optimally
Its amazing fun and pretty forgiving if you mess up your rotation. Thanks for the sub/watch!
Why would it get a nerf? Pala is A tier. Its doing really good but not the best
@@doublem7709 yeah i agree
@@doublem7709 its only issue is the single target. Its not that great but hey
@@moreauclement9702 I played it on the beta and thats not completly true..its doing really great on single target also in m+. How is it in raid that i do not know😊
Nice damage. I also play ret and it is feels amazing . I don’t understand why other content creators rank it so low tier. I hope ret will perform in pvp too. However I am afraid that they gonna nerf it rather than buff other classes.
Thanks so much. It does feel amazing. Hammer of light is such a fun button to press, feels good compared to a lot of other classes. Ret always great in pvp due to survivability, rated pvp little tougher but they should still be a solid choice. Thanks so much for your sub/watching!!
@@EpicGameVaultTV if only we got a littlebit more movility to hunt frost mages would be awesome, and some reduce healing talent, that would make us OP! hahaha. God save Ret Palys!
@@andrespetro2552 mages can be super tough in pvp, but blessing of freedom and hammer of justice does wonders, thanks for your comment
Problem I find with ret is 2 things:
1. Single target is so, so lacking. I play both ret and ww monk and holy fking cow does ww monk annhilate ret or what. Okay sure they do more, but ret can’t compete with DK, DH, WW, mage, at least buff it maybe 15%.
Secondly, why is our mobility so absolutely god awful? Why can’t every spec get to do mounted combat while in the open world? Or at LEAST pally along with dk?
Yes Ret single target right now is pretty bad. Typically I have no problem keeping up with WW monk in keys, moreso on trash than on bosses. But, not so sure about raid. Would be nice to see a ret buff, but not looking like it will happen. Still, ret is a solid choice this season I'ld put them on A tier, Top B tier at worst. Unless you plan on pushing over 3k io or doing mythic raiding. Then might want to look at something more meta. Thanks for the watch/subscribe - I definitely appreciate you guys!!
Yeah our single target is bad right now
Yeah it really is
what WA package are you useing for the vocal que's of what to do and interupts?
All the vocal prompts are just the default setup from DBM (Deadly Boss Mods) version 11.0.2. Thanks so much for the watch / sub!
Oh, there is also a weak aura i use in some videos for when I get power infusion, just a custom WA that plays a kiss sound so i know to pump harder
Well. Things are dying in 5seconds, of course Ret is powerfull when you can spend Wake and HoL and then the pack is over. Other classes needs some seconds to DPS and will do 20% more damages as you.
Your video is kinda troll because HC Dungeons or Raids are useless to see class tuning.
In MM+ or Raid you will see that Ret is mid tier / low tier without any buff.
Thanks for you comment. You should check some of my other videos from beta. Doing +5 - 10s where packs live a lot longer. Not much different result b/c cooldowns just come back up again and can use them several times. I've said it before in many other videos that Ret is not meta, more like low A tier or top of B. But unless you are pushing 3k or higher rating, or mythic raiding, then ret is still very strong. Right now all we have is heroic dgs, so ofc I'm going to post current content ;p
@@EpicGameVaultTV I LOVE how hard every one is coping with ret pally right now. "Oh it doesnt scale! only doing dps because packs die quick!" I got some baaad news for em.
@@bonesy7709 Yeah ret pally may not be meta, and its ST is kinda bad but since the revamp in DF ret has been and will continue to be a solid choice for all content due to extremely good aoe and survivability. Thanks for your comment!!
what is the addon that is announcing things to avoid?
Hi Vash, thanks for the watch/subscribe. The addon is just DBM (Deadly Boss Mods)
@EpicGameVaultTV thanks. I haven't used it in years and never knew it did voices.
Needs single target buffs and prob a small aoe nerf. I feel like a spec this brain dead easy should be sonewhere mid pack.
Yeah I agree we should get a small tuning to bring ST and AoE closer together. Thanks for your comment
nice vid! *cough* what spec/talents you using?
Hi Marcsansum, my talents are shown 0:03 and my gear a few seconds later. Thanks so much for the watch/sub!!
th-cam.com/video/M7GaCuom_Mk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m55R8JMYMQzj6Myi&t=3
Pretty standard AoE/cleave build. I prefer the cleave build in low dungeons upto maybe 11-12, and obviously single target build in raids
Can you link your build?
Sure thing man, thanks for asking!!
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What addon is that above the chat window?
its details, streamer plugin
Only because multiple packs with low health. Wait for fortified m+ and its probably bad.
I played over a month of beta doing 10-12s on both fort and tyrannical. Ret performed excellent even compared to Meta classes. They typically do more DPS than other classes on trash and less on bosses. Pretty much what you would expect. Thanks for your comment
We still need more buffs... out ST is trash right now.
You're not kidding. I think that last "Tuning" should have been like 10% aoe buff/ST nerf instead of 25%