It's hardtype. I think it's deliberately programmed to do that frequently when he's on low HP or any other trigger, in the actual version he just does that by random.
@@mrex666productions7 Actually, it's random in Hardtype too - and I believe the Beast Eye probability is in fact slightly lower in Hardtype. We just got lucky he behaved like this here. :)
Demi-Fiend: Hey, can I have a turn? Mot: HNNNNG Demi-Fiend: B-but.. Mot: HNNNNG Demi-Fiend: Uh, exc... Mot: HNNNNG Demi-Fiend: How long can he do this? Loki: Yes. Mot: HNNNNG
_Note to self: If you're going to give a boss some healing moves, _*_DO NOT EVER_*_ give him a move that increases his turn count/make him insanely speedier._
@@sayospecter6731 at least he only uses healing when you uses a healing spell so items still cheese and they gave him low hp people can straight one shot him to balance him out
@@Luxstar13 The fact that he can reaction guard your attacks and heal from doing so is part of the reason I beat him once as each character and then was like "I am never doing this fight again, no matter how many times I play this game."
This is modded difficulty, like one of the dude from the comment sections above said Vanilla Mot should be a cakewalk with Evasion Buff and Debuffs. It won't matter even if he casts beast eye a million times since missing 4 units in your party should end his turn immediately.
@@aegisScale in that case its determined by who moves first infinite turns can still take out Stephen because almighty damage but Stephen using both his full power could dust Mot in one turn
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 Aleph (Hijiri) is too busy being messed around with in this game by Lucifer as punishment for what he did to yhvh in smt2. No one will save Demifiend.
Here is an analysis and comparison on the fight against Mot in both Vanilla and Hardtype, it's quite long, read at your own expense. ~Expand Break~ First things first. As per the hardtype norm, all bosses have increased health and mana. Some had extra resistances, extra moves, and other extra things. Mot actually only had two differences in hardtype, and one is the universal change of 'Makakaja is now Cadenza' and gaining an extra skill in Maragidyne. But these two changes still made the fight harder than Vanilla (and even harder for Buffie's low level challenge run). So the best strategy to fight Mot in Vanilla was using evasion buffs and accuracy debuffs like any sensible person. Stacking Sukukaja and Fog Breath will literally make this boss a cake walk, as even if Mot has generated a whole lot of turns, and buffed himself to +4 Magic, it wouldn't mean anything if he just misses all those Megidolaons (unless he used Dekunda before doing any of that). But in Hardtype, Makakaja has been made obselete since Tarukaja now buffs both physical and magical attack, and as such has been changed to Cadenza that increases both magic attack *AND ACCURACY*. Not only are players limited to +2/-2 buff and debuffs in hardtype, making it less likely to dodge in the first place, Mot can pretty much no-sell any attempts at defense since he can buff his own accuracy to the max, Megidolaon is almighty and thus cannot be resisted, and in the case where one max buffed Megidolaon did not kill anyone could just Beast Eye for more turns. Besides, it is also very crucial to get a team that resists fire spells because Maragidyne's base power is actually higher than Megidolaon's, which means Mot doesn't even need to bust out Megidolaon spam if he can just wipe you out with a single Maragidyne. Contrary to Vanilla where it's very possible to beat Mot as long as you actually use buffs/debuffs like a sensible SMT player, the only way to beat Mot in hardtype is for him to have mercy on your soul and not spam beast eye.
A short summary: - Buff you should max: Rakukaja and Tarukaja. - Debuff: Tarunda. (Less damage in-case he uses Megidolaon, increase your survival chance). - Repel/Void/Absorb: Fire and Wind. - Pray for not beast eye + megidolaon spam. Almighty can't be resisted in case you missed the info in his explanation. Enjoy the fight.
it would be an interesting experiment to use an immortality cheat just to see how long Mot will use Beast Eye and Megidolaon until you finally get your turn
What if you Wanted to go to the next area But some coffin dude said _HRGHHH_ *Beast eye* _HRGHHH_ *Beast eye* _HRGHHH_ *Megidolaon* _HRGHHH_ *Megidolaon* _HRGHHH_ *Megidolaon*
The Persona series is a lot more thoughtful. You only get additional turns if you exploit a weakness or get a critical hit. And even then, you can Baton Pass (in Persona 5) to give your 1 More to someone else, so you can make one turn into 4 turns if you keep knocking down enemies. So in the Persona series, you have to actually work for your extra turns.
I always knew he _could_ use Beast Eye as much as he wanted, but practically speaking it would only give him a few extra moves and only on the turns he used it at all. Seeing him just throw it out there 5 times in a row was *hysterical!*
"Life inside a coffin is a lonely one indeed, but it gave Mot ample time to surf GameFAQs. During his quest for video game Nirvana, he discovered an interesting little spell known as Beast Eye; a move which creates extra turns from nothing."
Regardless of the fact that this is the [Hardtype] patch: WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS CREATING AN ABILITY TO GENERATE FREE PRESS TURNS IS A GOOD IDEA? FURTHERMORE, WHY WOULDN'T THEY TRY TO PUT A CAP ON HOW MANY TIMES IT CAN BE USED IN A SINGLE TURN? There's difficult, and then there's "All players must lose."
Seems fair to a game where dodging an enemy attack wastes 2 icons of their turns, especially when evasion buffs and debuffs are so broken in this game where 3 units(which equivalents to 6 turn icons wasted)on average will dodge a full party attack.
Part of me wonders if the remaster will keep this in, but the rest hopes that they dial it back just a bit, even just making it so he’s less inclined to do Beast Eye when he has 4 or more turns
damn i legit crying seeing the trailer it even comes with smt iii remaster that no one see coming. i don't cry like this for long time since back at 2015 they announce fatal frame v.
Now, I have heard a lot of bad things about Mot. I had heard that this boss spams Beast's Eye and Megidolaon, and I thought," Oh, if he spams just those two moves, then it can't be that hard, right?" And then I discovered just exactly what Beast's Eye does. (On a side note, I just noticed that this was uploaded on my birthday this year, so yay me and an F for Demi Fiend)
"Behold, this is what true power is", Mot exclaims as he hits the 7 press turn limit, before casting another Beast Eye simply to flaunt his strength.
That last one is just to flex on demi
Narrator: Mot extends his turn, just because he can
Mot is the kid that won yu-gi-oh battles by making up card rules and giving himself extra turns.
He's like Atem when he dueled Weevil and Weevil royally pissed him off by making him think he ripped the card that had Yugi's soul in it.
"I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK!"
DURO! MONSTA CADO!
Mot is the kid who filled his deck with nothing but Exodia cards that he printed out himself on notebook paper
Mot is the reason why we have hard once per turn rules for card effects
Mot: I brought a coffin... but not for me!
Underrated
“I mean, it literally is for me, but you know what I mean!”
@Spider-Venom No u
Call a coffin call a coffin
*BUT NOT FOR ME* 💀
No, the coffin is for him.
He doesn't think you deserve one.
Tips for mot:
•Use sukukaja
•Use demons which have ziodyne or bolt storm
•More sukukaja
•Pray for god
Tutorial unclear. Mot spammed Cadenza, ultimately made my team +2 evasion useless
Theres no god when ur fighting Mot
Because ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
If this the future YHVH wants to prevent I’ll go Law route every time from now on
The last one that wat i always do when walking around in this game 😂
Gee Mot, how come your mom lets you have *10 billion* turns?
HRRRRRRRGH
haha beast eye go brrrr
Friend: So I've played Persona games, what's a typical experience in the mainline games like?
Me, a traumatized intellectual:
It's hardtype. I think it's deliberately programmed to do that frequently when he's on low HP or any other trigger, in the actual version he just does that by random.
@@mrex666productions7 Actually, it's random in Hardtype too - and I believe the Beast Eye probability is in fact slightly lower in Hardtype. We just got lucky he behaved like this here. :)
*excessive grunts*
It’s a m o d
*"JUDGMENT. HAS COME. TO YOU!"*
mot is the kind of person to wish for more wishes isn't he
Smart guy
Demi-Fiend: Hey, can I have a turn?
Mot: HNNNNG
Demi-Fiend: B-but..
Mot: HNNNNG
Demi-Fiend: Uh, exc...
Mot: HNNNNG
Demi-Fiend: How long can he do this?
Loki: Yes.
Mot: HNNNNG
Dionysius:Alright ..i have lived a good life
Mot: beast eye make brrrrrrrr
Demi-Fiend: Umm... Can I have a turn please?
*uses beast eye for the 2001st time*
"No"
ONE MORE TURN REJECTED!
Mot: [Takes a sip of his tea] *No.*
[Megidolaon]
@Nero Metal Demi-Fiend: "You know what? No. I'm not dealing with this shit."
[Demi-Fiend walked away.]
@@NicoTheCinderace Demi-Fiend could not run. Not only was it not his turn, this is a bossfight
ima tell my grandkids this was Pot of Greed
I'm gonna tell my grandkids this was burning bamboo sword + terminal world
I’m gonna tell my grand kids this was the Yata-Lock
More like “Mot of Greed”
Gonna tell my grandkids this was Mot because I don't lie about legends
Mot was a "FUN" and "FAIR" boss fight
Supersaurus rex
IT’s gOoD bEcAuSe it’S cHalLenGiNg
"It's FUN"!
sukukaja
This is Dwarf's Fortress definition of FUN(TM)
Some say that mots groan is actually him saying fair as though his ai is self aware
_Note to self: If you're going to give a boss some healing moves, _*_DO NOT EVER_*_ give him a move that increases his turn count/make him insanely speedier._
Square Enix: [laughs in Vanitas]
@@sayospecter6731 at least he only uses healing when you uses a healing spell so items still cheese and they gave him low hp people can straight one shot him to balance him out
mysterious figure aka yung xehanort says hello. *I N S T A N T D E A T H* .
@@Luxstar13 The fact that he can reaction guard your attacks and heal from doing so is part of the reason I beat him once as each character and then was like "I am never doing this fight again, no matter how many times I play this game."
Lucifer doesn't use Beast Eye.
Mara doesn't use Beast Eye.
Black Frost doesn't use Beast Eye
Mot uses Beast Eye like it's a normal skill.
"I wish for infinite wishes"
The Genie:
Mot, mom said it's my turn on the PS2!
Mot: HNNNNNG *Beast Eye* .
Uh... Mot says he's not ready to kill me yet.
"wait, it's your turn?"
"always has been."
"Megidolaon."
"and it shall always be"
There's a reason in Japan this encounter was called Mot's Theater モト劇場. There's nothing you can do but watch.
THIS is what I have to look forward to in the remaster!?
JESUS CHRIST.
Gl
This is modded difficulty, like one of the dude from the comment sections above said Vanilla Mot should be a cakewalk with Evasion Buff and Debuffs. It won't matter even if he casts beast eye a million times since missing 4 units in your party should end his turn immediately.
@@rollpra6194 dude he's a persona 5 cherry. If he goes against mot he's not coming out unpopped lol
This is part of a hardmode mod, but yes, the original game has the same energyas in this video lmao
Mot does this in the OG game tho. His AI wasn't changed in this mod as far as I know
Someone should mod Mot's model so it gives you the bird every time he casts Beast Eye
every beast eye represents someone asking for a persona port
Lord has given Mot the action replay to stop demi fiend from advancing, CALL ALL MESSIAHS NOW
MEGIDOLAON hits everyone no matter how many bugs pile up they all breath in the poison gas and die all the same
RRRRRR
@@joshuamedina6807 in that case, we need to get Stephen here stat!
@@aegisScale in that case its determined by who moves first infinite turns can still take out Stephen because almighty damage but Stephen using both his full power could dust Mot in one turn
Um how do I call a door to fight? I'm sure Aleph is fine to come though.
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 Aleph (Hijiri) is too busy being messed around with in this game by Lucifer as punishment for what he did to yhvh in smt2. No one will save Demifiend.
How many beast eye should the Mot use?
Atlus: yes
Best case scenario is beast eye cost 1mp an mót has 3000 so if it only beast eye you will wait for long time
@@merunask.9640 that implies you survive him for 100s of turns
“So I’ve decided that, uh, it’s never going to BE your turn. I’m just going to keep having MY turn.”
-Sans Undertale
I was thinking the same thing
His eye shines for a reason. He casts Beast Eye whenever you get close to that attack button.
Sans: so Mot's the same type of balls as mine
Here is an analysis and comparison on the fight against Mot in both Vanilla and Hardtype, it's quite long, read at your own expense.
~Expand Break~
First things first. As per the hardtype norm, all bosses have increased health and mana. Some had extra resistances, extra moves, and other extra things. Mot actually only had two differences in hardtype, and one is the universal change of 'Makakaja is now Cadenza' and gaining an extra skill in Maragidyne. But these two changes still made the fight harder than Vanilla (and even harder for Buffie's low level challenge run).
So the best strategy to fight Mot in Vanilla was using evasion buffs and accuracy debuffs like any sensible person. Stacking Sukukaja and Fog Breath will literally make this boss a cake walk, as even if Mot has generated a whole lot of turns, and buffed himself to +4 Magic, it wouldn't mean anything if he just misses all those Megidolaons (unless he used Dekunda before doing any of that).
But in Hardtype, Makakaja has been made obselete since Tarukaja now buffs both physical and magical attack, and as such has been changed to Cadenza that increases both magic attack *AND ACCURACY*. Not only are players limited to +2/-2 buff and debuffs in hardtype, making it less likely to dodge in the first place, Mot can pretty much no-sell any attempts at defense since he can buff his own accuracy to the max, Megidolaon is almighty and thus cannot be resisted, and in the case where one max buffed Megidolaon did not kill anyone could just Beast Eye for more turns. Besides, it is also very crucial to get a team that resists fire spells because Maragidyne's base power is actually higher than Megidolaon's, which means Mot doesn't even need to bust out Megidolaon spam if he can just wipe you out with a single Maragidyne.
Contrary to Vanilla where it's very possible to beat Mot as long as you actually use buffs/debuffs like a sensible SMT player, the only way to beat Mot in hardtype is for him to have mercy on your soul and not spam beast eye.
O_O
@@yodagaming5905 same
@@yodagaming5905 Totally how I was...
A short summary:
- Buff you should max: Rakukaja and Tarukaja.
- Debuff: Tarunda. (Less damage in-case he uses Megidolaon, increase your survival chance).
- Repel/Void/Absorb: Fire and Wind.
- Pray for not beast eye + megidolaon spam.
Almighty can't be resisted in case you missed the info in his explanation.
Enjoy the fight.
I love how the only solution in hardtype is to pray lmao, it truly is a formidable game
it would be an interesting experiment to use an immortality cheat just to see how long Mot will use Beast Eye and Megidolaon until you finally get your turn
Prob until ran out of mp
That coffin is more fitting than any of us knew.
Mot and modern yugioh seem to have a lot in common
What if you wanted to go to Heaven but Mot said
*HRGHHHH*
What if you
Wanted to go to the next area
But some coffin dude said
_HRGHHH_
*Beast eye*
_HRGHHH_
*Beast eye*
_HRGHHH_
*Megidolaon*
_HRGHHH_
*Megidolaon*
_HRGHHH_
*Megidolaon*
Prettu sure that if mot goes *brrrr* you will end up in heaven
@@martil.5642 Yeah, but you ain’t gonna like it.
Mot: Uses Beast Eye 20+ Times Buff: wait that’s illegal
Lets be real, players would do the same thing if offered the same powers
"Wishes for more wishes" type of wish.
I’m pretty sure Mot would be kept until the Endgame if he kept Beast Eye. Especially because Beast Eye apparently costs 1MP.
The Persona series is a lot more thoughtful. You only get additional turns if you exploit a weakness or get a critical hit. And even then, you can Baton Pass (in Persona 5) to give your 1 More to someone else, so you can make one turn into 4 turns if you keep knocking down enemies. So in the Persona series, you have to actually work for your extra turns.
🎣
@@KingdomKey-ik4xk Honestly with that bs atleast give all the bosses x3 in health so it's fair for the enemy
Well, this is a coffin that dances.
ONE MORE MEME PREDICTED
Playing SMT is like paying money to get kicked in the nuts and still enjoy it
CBT lovers in a sentence
That's the fun of SMT
yes
You know, for some inexplicable reason, I was thinking that Coconut Mall theme would be the perfect song for this video.
ONE MORE MALL REJECTED
What a wonderfully programmed AI this is.
This video has the same energy of “I now summon a pot of greed, which allows me to draw 2 additional cards” 😂😂😂
Yes
Dear god that looks annoying. That ending was very much satisfying
_"Mot, can you not?!"_
(God, this gave me back PTSD all over again. -Make it stop plz- )
Naoki: When is it going to be my turn?
Mot: You guys are getting turns?
ANOTHER TURN REJECTED
Demi-Fiend upon seeing so many press turns: "I have a bad feeling about thi-" *GETS NUKED*
I always knew he _could_ use Beast Eye as much as he wanted, but practically speaking it would only give him a few extra moves and only on the turns he used it at all.
Seeing him just throw it out there 5 times in a row was *hysterical!*
Enemy turn:
Demi-fiend: uh oh, this is not good
Mot: *at full turns, does beast eye again anyway*
Ah yes the true Mot experience.
I guess you can say the coffin is getting... *out of hand.*
I've waited 10 years to say that
You've been waiting for this
I've been waiting for this
@Brotally Swagical Don't overdo it
"Life inside a coffin is a lonely one indeed, but it gave Mot ample time to surf GameFAQs. During his quest for video game Nirvana, he discovered an interesting little spell known as Beast Eye; a move which creates extra turns from nothing."
And you thought getting turned into a rat was rough...
PFFFFTTTT
THAT was your standard for hard? Forget Megaten games, was Persona 5 your first JRPG?
Denker Bosu calm down man it was just a joke lmfao
I think there's a boss/enemy here in nocturne that will turn you into a fly
My Demi-Fiend died after getting turned into a fly by Baal Avatar. So that was fun.
@@gaiko804 I think that's Beelzebub, or is that DeSu1?
Can’t wait to fight it again in the remastered... *OR NOT* !
Don't you mean "Or Mot"
The Gaming Aristocrat 20/20 i approuve the joke 😂
“Smt: nocturne“ more like “Smt: no-turn”
Mot's fight makes me remember that Fairy Oddparents episode where Crocker keeps asking the genie for three more wishes
0:00 - 3:56
"DO YOU WANT ME TO PLAY THE FUCKIN GAME?!!!!"
Mot: "BEAST EYYYYEEEEEE!!!"
Regardless of the fact that this is the [Hardtype] patch:
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS CREATING AN ABILITY TO GENERATE FREE PRESS TURNS IS A GOOD IDEA? FURTHERMORE, WHY WOULDN'T THEY TRY TO PUT A CAP ON HOW MANY TIMES IT CAN BE USED IN A SINGLE TURN?
There's difficult, and then there's "All players must lose."
This fight is, to me, the height of BS!
Mot still does this in the original game
@Step mum Is too fuckin hot mate
I DID say ‘regardless’, which was alluding to how vanilla Mot can decide whenever he wants to win.
Beast/Dragon Eye isn't really bad per see as long as it's not spammed, which is exactly why Mot is so unfair
Seems fair to a game where dodging an enemy attack wastes 2 icons of their turns, especially when evasion buffs and debuffs are so broken in this game where 3 units(which equivalents to 6 turn icons wasted)on average will dodge a full party attack.
Mot: "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"
This is like playing uno with friends and they allow you to pass +4 cards with another, and it goes around the table twice before you get 24 cards
so this is how an AI must feel when players use cheat codes
Mot: YOU WANNA LEARN HOW TO DO A FUCKIN' INFINITE?
3:03 I knew what would happen and I still got wide eyed, never change mot, you bastard.
This syncs surprisingly good with coffin dance.
The F in Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne stands for Fair.
But there's no F-
@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequitedexactly
good one
Ahh. The return of Mot’s bullshit.
WITH A VENGEANCE
Does Atlus EVEN READ MY CHRISTMAS LIST?!?!
As somebody who has not played a mainline SMT game but is exited for the Nocturne remaster....
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?!
FUN.
Believe you still have fun even with all of this
Part of me wonders if the remaster will keep this in, but the rest hopes that they dial it back just a bit, even just making it so he’s less inclined to do Beast Eye when he has 4 or more turns
This is the first video I came across after searching for : "SMT 3 Broken" and I don't regret any second of it.
Zombero: fixes the critical hit formula so you aren't literally punished for leveling up
Also Zombero: doesn't do anything to Mot
Might as well change it to “One more turn rejected” at this point, Christ almighty
NOW! After a thousand Beast Eyes have expired, Mot will be released! Judgment has come to you!
damn i legit crying seeing the trailer it even comes with smt iii remaster that no one see coming.
i don't cry like this for long time since back at 2015 they announce fatal frame v.
Game should've had a rule of, Beast/Dragon Eye(s) should transform Full Press turns into half-turns. Then balance would be perfect.
My favorite's when Mot's on each last turn and goes "HRNNGH"
Ah good old Mot. I remembered how he was the ultimate Persona for the badass Reiji Kido in P1 though I remembered how of a pain he was here.
I feel like you could make a fucking screensaver out of Mot just casting beast eye over and over again
Mot: i don't have enought turns,this isn't fair..
Demi-fiend: "So when do I get to attack back?"
Mot: "That's the fun part, you don't."
Beast eye is such a balanced move
2:08 yes i counted , he did cast beast eye fucking 6 TIMES IN A ROW , FILLING THE WHOLE SCREEN WITH EXTRA TURNS
Shin Mot Tensei: you get NOcTURNe
Mot of Greed: "I use Beast Eye to grant 2 additional actions to my turn! And I use Beast Eye to grant 2 additional actions to my turn!"
Certified bruh moment
You actually did it...
Oh my god he's using pot of greed
>Not even using dragon eye
Weak
>Hardtype
You brought it on yourself, really.
he does a this in normal game too, hes an ass hole
If they don’t nerf his beast eye spam in the remake well.... Mot: Nothing personal kid *spams beast eye*
After my first attempt at this fight I just turned off the ps2 and went to bed.
"I can grant you only 3 wishes"
"I wish for 3 more wishes"
FEAR
FEAR MOT AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM
FOR THE HOUR OF HIS
JUDGEMENT - HAS COME - TO YOU!
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FEAR
FEAR MOT AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM
FOR THE HOUR OF HIS
BEAST EYE - HAS COME - TO YOU!
what the hell have you brought upon this land
So this is how Demi-Fiend learned chaotic will
"I SUMMON POT OF GREED" type vibes
and just like that Mot’s drama has come to an end
*THIS IS CERTIFIED SMT-HOOD CLASSIC.*
Now, I have heard a lot of bad things about Mot. I had heard that this boss spams Beast's Eye and Megidolaon, and I thought," Oh, if he spams just those two moves, then it can't be that hard, right?"
And then I discovered just exactly what Beast's Eye does.
(On a side note, I just noticed that this was uploaded on my birthday this year, so yay me and an F for Demi Fiend)
Happy belated birthday. I will try to keep it in my memory to come by March 10th, 2022.
Happy birthday two months early ( ＾∀＾)
Thus Mot gained a new title, The Demon Lord of DESPAIR.
I never seen a enemy take so many turns in my entire life. 💀
You are looking at *Adjust glasses* the Mot's Drama.
Mot: *Turn begins* You're free turn trial has expired
Mot: "behold my true form and despairrr!"
Mot's Eternal Punishment
Oh cool, he does that in hardtype too...
Mot is the main reason I'll be buying the HD remaster. Definitely the most fun boss
2 genders
I love how bosses in this game get extra turns. No wonder demefiend is so pissed when you fight him in smt v and digital devil saga
Drinking game: take a shot everytime Mot casts Beast eye.