My TOP 3 new features in Artisan Scope 2.8.2 for Coffee Roasters
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- As a coffee roaster and creator of the Hermetheus Roaster Co-Pilot automation kit, I rely on Artisan software almost daily. This video covers the top three features of Artisan 2.8.2, according to me. :-)
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This improviment on editing is realy cool!
I think so too!
Great video Jason!
Thanks
Looking forward for a video for the blended temp setting and configuration.
Thanks again!
That's amazing, Jason! I love this overview.
love from iran
I always just right clicked in designer and edited the time and temps.
While that works, the drawback is that you can’t see the resulting change to RoR until you save the new temps. With the more responsive/fluid dragging of the points, it’s now MUCH easier to fine-tune your RoR curve!
You don't understand controls. It may or may not largely undermine what PID does. The size of the probe really isn't the issue. You are correct, it takes less energy to raise or lower any given substance a degree. More responsive and some can be noisy too. PID can work effectively with either. What you describe is a patch for laymen so to speak. And really isn't PID related per se although the implementation might have been unstable. A PID can be misconfigured and be have badly. Or, with correct parameterization, be very, very responsive. I do hope it works. But keep in mind, this is an organic coffee product being created - not making pharmaceuticals. What it sounds like is measuring coffee beans in motion where a probe is getting constantly bashed by beans at a dramatically lower temperature then released to the air at significantly higher temperature might be difficult to sample. Then corrections made difficult because burners don't respond instantaneously. The writers are trying to optimize both fuel gas fired equipment and electric burners. The truth is the sampling rate can be too slow. And ultimately, that's internal. PID should be built into the roaster, and not dependent on data manipulation through bluetooth or serial connection. Maybe, it will be more positve than negative.
Appreciate your perspective, although I disagree with a few of your points. To be clear, my excitement for that feature is directed at the tiny percentage of roasters who really chase perfection in their roast profiles. It's also worth noting that we create the Co-Pilot here at Hermetheus, so I've seen literal THOUSANDS of roasts that are done using PID automation. I have a lengthy video specifically directed at coffee roasters who want to learn more about PID. So I agree with you that PID in a coffee roasting environment is very slow to respond/react when compared to other industrial control applications. (I touch on this in my other video.) But the choice of probe diameter is still a compromise in a coffee roaster. There's no way around that. If it wasn't a compromise, then the roaster community would have a definitive "perfect" probe diameter to use. But we don't. We can choose a larger diameter probe, which is smoother (e.g. slower to respond to temp changes). But that will be less effective at quantifying/correcting the first crack crash.
This new feature in Artisan simply allows the power users of PID (like me) to have more options at their disposal.
To your point about sampling rate, that's configurable in Artisan software. None of what I discussed uses bluetooth or serial connections, but I obviously didn't make that clear in my video. The Roaster Co-Pilot is a direct USB connection using hardware APIs that are integrated into Artisan software.
@@hermetheuscoffee - I appreciate that. What I appreciate most is the programming community writing Artisan.
The coffee community are enthusiastic and passionate. But a cup of coffee is like a cigar, you will never reach "perfection" because perfection doesn't exits. But you can simply enjoy it. Notice some subtleties, and imagine even more. Yes, just as a stick tastes differently towards the nub, a cup changes - in perception. Yet, those who enjoy tobacco might also seek "perfection". A surfer might search for "the perfect wave" a hunter the "perfect buck." Not one of them has a thing to do with PID control.
Take 2 kilos from the same bag that came from the same farm and make two exact roasts following the exact BT profile and they will taste differently. Perfection doesn't exist because Repeatability doesn't exist in organic materials. More like narrow similarity.
Get out, go to a park. Hug a good woman, pet a dog. Enjoy life. As a retired engineer who did controls, I do get satisfaction out of seeing a machine do exactly what I told it to. But that's rare. But in my old age I learned to accept, 99.999% of life is self-frustration because this old world is made of "Close but no Cigar." I never liked trying to pick fly-sh:t out of pepper. Good coffee, bad coffee. I can appreciate and enjoy both.
Good Cupping brother. :)
Hi Jason I am getting a artisan 3e and wanting to use the yocto servo and the yocto watt with artisan software what other yocto device do I need to make it all work, or can this all be done thur the copilot?
The Co-Pilot is a plug and play solution to automate your 3e. (Which is an excellent roaster!) If you want to go the DIY route then the Yocto path will be a bit more difficult (you’ll absolutely need to re-flash the firmware with some mods). While I absolutely love Yocto devices, I think Phidgets are a bit more user-friendly for DIYers. I have another video on how to do this for Phidgets.
Sadly, the Yocto-watt probably won’t do what you’re hoping to do with it, which assume is monitor power of the 3e via Artisan. The Yocto Watt can’t handle that much current. What you COULD do is add a current transformer to it, then apply a formula in Artisan to convert the low-current CT signal to the full current reading. For instance, if your CT reduces current 50x, then you’ll need to amplify it 50x in Artisan. I have the Yocto Watt, so it certainly can do what you’re after… it’s just a pain.
A simple $20 ammeter with a donut-style CT on Amazon is an easier approach. Good luck!
Hi, I have Santoker R200 Bluetooth, and I can connect fine on bluetooth using their software but I cannot connect on bluetooth on Artisan, also using the USB port I just get the BT and not the ET, how can I have some help on this?
The Artisan GitHub is probably the best source for support of this type: github.com/artisan-roaster-scope/artisan/discussions
Jason, can you recommend a first-time, Artisan-appropriate roaster for me? I've been skillet-roasting coffee for 1.5 years in order to really learn the skill. Now I'm investigating machine options. Any ideas?
That’s a really broad question, so I think I would start with your capacity needs, budget, and whether you want something ready-to-roast on vs something that you need to tinker with to get it to work with Artisan.
Hi Jason I am new to roasting I have a Huky 500. My question is after my roast is completed I can save my roast to a PDF I hit print and it saves it to a PDF to my desktop I think that is the way you do this not sure.Then when I am roasting I have to open the PDF and look to see if I am on track with my roast. I can't figure out how to have a prior roast profile in the background as I am roasting. I just can't find any info on how to do that I went on Artisan web site just can't figure this out. I am ok on the computer I work as an property adjuster using the computer for my job. Do you anywhere that I can get info on how to do this would be great. Thank You.
Hi, Frank. Yes, this is a regular part of using Artisan! You’ll first need to save a prior roast as an Artisan .alog file (as opposed to PDF). You could also use Designer to create your own reference profile. (I have a video on how to do that as well.)
Once you have a profile saved, just go to Roast>Background and click “Load” to load your reference roast! It’ll now be in 50% transparency in your graph. Hope this helps!
@@hermetheuscoffee Thank You