One of these days the Like button is gonna pull a Rambo - tie a bandana over its thumb, strap on a bandolier and a rifle, call MrBallen and say, "I'm coming... for you!"
@@sethmackenzie4419 they couldn't do that because of the fire/explosion risk to other people. i don't understand why they didn't intentionally try and burn off those chemicals and clear the area. such a tragic situation to be in and i couldn't imagine the terror those men went through.
It seems so unlike US navy not to have tried something to get them out. I understand the forces, pressure and chemicals would hamper the usual attempts. I also understand the limit of my own intelligence on the matter. I would just rather die during some sort of rescue attempt than the way they went. Do the smart commenters on here have any suggestions to how they could have tried to save them? And how did they eventually retrieve them?
My martial arts instructor told me this story years ago. An older family member of his, an Uncle I believe, was one of the Marines who stood guard and listened to those trapped Saliors make noise down there until they died.
@@feralorc04 yeah, dunno- haven't found much info on what they tried. I love sailing but this is a bit of a fear of mine. MrBallen has another video of the Nigerian guy (trapped underwater in pitch black for 3 days I think) while sharks were seeking a snack. Don't know which is worse.
That sink hole story was terrifying on every level! It’s so tragic, inescapable, unpredictable and horrifying! The victim did nothing risky, dangerous or anything that could have caused it, yet absolutely couldn’t have avoided or escape it either. He was just relaxing at home where he should have been safe. I really can’t find words to describe how frightening and horrendous this must have been for him and how traumatized his poor brother must still be.
I had a strong feeling the first story would be set here in Florida based off of the title but the case took me in a while different direction than I thought. That shit was legitimately terrifying and I thought the same too…he did nothing wrong and no one could’ve known 😞
I can’t imagine the pain that brother from the sink hole story must have gone through losing Jeff like that. I’m the older sibling and I would do absolutely anything for my sister, including jumping into a sink hole to find her. He was by his brother’s side until the end. Rest easy. 💓
For west central Florida, sinkholes are a fact of life. Usually they are an expensive inconvenience, but the Seffner sinkhole incident really shook me to the core. The fact that the poor dude was swallowed up like that and that they were unable to safely recover the body was both terrifying and heartbreaking.
In the sinkhole story, I'm not sure who suffered more, the brother that fell in the hole or the one trying to save him and couldn't. The guilt,fear and trauma the surviving brother must have felt for years afterward. I had to sit down for a minute after that story. I have never felt empathy so strongly for another person.
Yea it’s one thing to lose a family member. To actually be there, and witness their demise while you’re literally standing right on top of them with no way to do anything to help, listening to screams... Yea that’s pretty horrendous. Especially it being in your own home too. Mannn..
@@cooliodiablo6117 my friends brother died in his arms. he got shot, ran back home and died in his arms. my friend needed therapy and stilll feels guilty to this day, 5 years now. my friend was 12 at the time too.
I'm a Floridian and I remember when this happened. That poor family, I can't imagine having something like that happen and losing someone you love. They're very common here and the idea of a sinkhole opening up at any time scares the hell out of me.
Reasons to move from Florida. Too much water, many sinkholes, hurricanes are getting stronger, life is expensive, you can not have a basement. Coming from South Florida takes for ever to come out of Florida. Drivers are very aggressive and violent, beautiful houses complex built over fill reclaimed land. Literally Florida is floating on water and waiting for the mega tsunami coming from La Palma, Canarian Islands.🤦🏼♀️
@@maggiewaden8274 Shhhhh... Always remember, we must entice our vacationers, future retirees and those looking to move here with our sun, beaches, gated communities and resorts. They don't need to know those other pesky facts. 🤣🤣😂😂
Exactly!!! Im moving back up north soon!! I miss snow and its way too expensive down here!! When you have to work 2 jobs for living.....so you cant enjoy the Florida life....just going from air conditioning to air conditioning lol
The 2nd story with Josh Maddock actually had a later development where they found out one of Josh's friends was with the last person to see him alive. As brutal as it sounds, I think it's a possible teenage rape case. Josh's friend came onto him, got rejected, killed his friend in the process then stuffed him in the chimney and tried to cover up the evidence. Psycho killer friend or not this was definitely a murder and one of the most chilling unsolved cases that got me hooked on horror podcasts. He was so young and spirited, rip sweet boy 💗
The only thing worse than a sudden death is a slow, painful and sure death with absolutely no respite. Tragic! I've heard the story about the kid in the cabin before and that's just purely bizarre! I'd think there would have had to be someone else involved.
Yeah we know he died "7 years" before they found him but there is zero way to know down to the month. He could have been alive and being hurt for sometime inside the cabin. I wonder if the owner was ever really looked at or if it could have been a transient or something.
@@LilAnnThrax Unlikely, The owner of the cabin was the one who pushed for an investigation. He's the reason the case was reopened. Additionally the owners story is both consistent and tragic, yes he owned the cabin but it was never "his" him and his brother had co-owned since the 60's and his brother had lived their alone until his death a few years prior to the boy's disappearance. The cabin owner only ever visited to drop off things for long term storage. The whole reason the cabin was in disrepair is that ever since his brothers death he didn't like visiting the cabin. Add these facts, along with the clothes being neatly folded as in cared for and the likelihood of you being killed by a close family member or friend and well if he was murdered as the cabin owner insists, Then it was probably someone Josh knew. its already statistically likely the absence of damage to the body, the delicate handling of his clothes and he was killed near his home simply make it more so.
So unbelievably heartbreaking having to leave our men to die like that. They deserve so much better...I cant imagine their fellow servicemen having to listen to them dieing and being literally helpless to save them. That truly is horrific...God bless those brave souls and all our men and women protecting us around the world.
They're tech wasnt that advanced back then- plus he said if they tried to dig him up the hole will get bigger and wider and the whole street could be gone
Why not have hoses with oxygen ready to be pumped in so when you cut that first little hole & the water floods into the cabin you shove the tubes/hoses with oxygen there for the trapped crew, while you then frantically attempt to cut a bigger hole?
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Or build an air tight pocket to work outside the ship in. They did have plastic back then didn't they? Or why not have divers go inside the ship and bring them tanks so they would swim out with the divers. They could have made it to them in 13 days. WTF!
@@susancoulter4129 The only reason they could breath, is because they were trapped with air. Now imagine sinking to the bottom of the ocean in a ship really deep down........ down to the sea floor. Now imagine the only way you're not being crushed by the extreme sea water pressure outside in a sunken damaged ship, is the air inside you're breathing in the ship, thats also keeping all the pressure from crushing you. Now to have air, in a pocket, that they were breathing, underwater, in a sunken ship, shows that they were truly sealed in, "air tight". Now imagine taking the extremely pressurized compartment they were stuck in, thats completely air tight, from their outside surrounding (sea) and poking a tiny little hole in it, even as small as a pencil hole. The effect's of such a small hole in their air pocket would be so extreme, its not even a joke. The pocket would immediately depressurize, and if not, explode under so much outside pressure as hundreds of thousands of gallons of sea water are forced through that tiny hole ever second/minute. All the men would have frozen to death, or died in seconds from drowning, once a single hole, or crack had made its way through their hull/air pocket. In fact, the 2 options still to this day i believe to save other people in this same situation, is still to raise the ship to the surface, or by wielding a pressurized rig to the haul of the ship by a coupling, and then cutting a hole into the ship where the air tight pocket is expected to be located at, so the crew can escape. Both these options are beyond risky, and mostly never possible to even work. Fact is, one out of a million times, if you sink to the bottom of the ocean, you might be rescued. But the reality is, your going to die if this happens to you, and their is nothing anyone can really do to help u.
Mr. Ballen should consider reading for audio books. His voice is so soothing and expressive, its as if you're actually there and experiencing the stories he shares with him.
I'm really sorry for you loss my brother. I want you to know this, your brother loves you very much and wants you to know that he's very proud of you and how far you've come in life.
My heart aches for that man’s loss and yours. A sibling bond is a special one and even while amongst the stars, he feels your love. May he rest peacefully.
So sorry for your loss. While I can’t imagine what you and your family went through I can relate to the pain of losing a loved one. My older brother (my only sibling) passed away in 2020. I was there when it happened. It still haunts me to this day. My deepest condolences to you, wishing you healing and peace.
Just me spitballing, but couldnt they pump the water near the ship with fresh enough water to prevent a chemical issues then weld a big steel tube like a saturation diving bell and use hoses to pump pressurized air in, then have a device pierce the hull within the welded tube, so no water would come in but now air could come in via the hoses and this way that crew could survive until they could lift the ship, ideally feed a wire in the hole so they could communicate too, could do the same thing again if they needed a fresh water hose or even some sort of liquid food
Listening to the USS West Virginia Story literally raises the hair on my skin, & my heart sank. How desperate those poor sailors were, they probably died thinking no one knew they were in there, or they would be saved at any minute. This is one of the worst fates I can think of
James Allen well dying in bed at 90 in your sleep is much better than suffocating slowly at 18-20 yrs old at the bottom of a dark ocean, knowing every gasp of air could be the last...mental anguish, thinking about this makes me nauseous, like I can literally feel the despair....I like how MrBallen incorporated a war story in here, I’m a sucker for history but hearing stories like this are horrible. Read about the fate of soldiers in stalingrad! The 6th army saw a huge smoke filled cloud in august that resembled a cross, & I was reading a memoir from a Wehrmacht soldier & he later stated little did they know that their fate was sealed! Slowly starving, & cannabalising one another, not being able to sleep for fear of freezing or being picked off by wolves and snipers.
Josh Maddux was a friend of my brothers. We lived in Woodland Park about half a mile from that old house on the same road. I can’t imagine how many times I must have walked past his body growing up. Absolutely crazy to think about. Poor guy
There’s a strikingly similar story of a kid in England called Michael Jarrett Lowe. scepticpeg.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/islington-the-mysterious-death-of-michael-jarrett-lowe-1974/ Found upside down in a chimney with something blocking the entrance. This is too weird.
I don’t understand how the cabin wasn’t looked through immediately. Who cares what the outside looks like? If anything if there’s a missing kid that would seem to be all the more reason to look through.
You would think like the cops normally think kids run away right so you could think to look in a abandon looking building bc they might’ve went there for shelter or something and also what I was thinking is what if he went for a walk with some friends and then like they dared him to go In the chimney and when he got stuck they did everything they could to cover it up and just left him there
The last story made me tear up, can you imagine to fear those three Marines felt knowing they were trapped!? :( Tonight I will light a candle for each of them and and there will be three minutes silence in my home in remembrance of them, I grew up in Military family and have nothing but respect for anyone who has or is currently serving their country, absolutely including MrBallen ❤️ Thank you. R.I.P Cliff, Buddy and Ron, sleep tight Angels x
I cried listening to that. I can’t imagine having to take turns with your arms partners to listen to see how long the ones trapped can survive with no help.
I feel stupid for asking this, but why did they need the guys standing guard to listen and see how long it took them to die? I watched this whole video but I must have missed something...
@@Irish_Georgia_Girl it was probably to make sure no one tried to do anything. Like the guy stated there’s a lot of risks to a lot of things and they probably had guards standing by to make sure no one tried anything that would get more people hurt. I wouldn’t have been able to bare it. I would have been one of the people being restrained.
A great friend of my family who passed away in 2019 or 2020( I forget) was on the West Virginia during Pearl Harbor. He managed to survive and always talked about a guardian angel who told him what to do to escape alive. His name was Cal Calderone if anyones curious he was the last Ohioan Pearl Harbor survivor I believe
No way?! That’s amazing but saddening. This story was really upsetting for me. I’m sorry I don’t understand but why couldn’t they have raised the ship immediately? That’s terrifying and very upsetting to me how the navy had to deal with that particular situation involving their fellow men. I’m really sorry I don’t understand but I would appreciate someone explaining why they couldn’t have raised the ship up immediately? Thank you.
It's a murder case I guess... For my opinion it's not an accident if the clothes are inside and a barrier where the body should be seen, it's like a hint that someone was there with him.
I THINK HE WAS MEETING SOME ONE FOR A BOOTY CALL GOT UNDRESSED AND THEN HE WAS SET UP AND WAS KILLED SOME HOW AND JAMMED INTO THAT FIRE PLACE.... HONESTLY I FELT LIKE THE CABIN OWNER COULD HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT... HOW HAVE YOU ADMIT TO GOING THERE A FEW TIMES IN SEVEN YEARS AND NEVER NOTICED THE DAMAGES OR THE CLOTHING RANDOMLY PLACED THERE OK AND EVEN IF SOME HOW HE DIDN'T NOTICE THE DAMAGES OR THE CLOTHING... HOW DID HE NOT SMELL DEATH OR THE DEAD BODY, ESPECIALLY BEING IN A CLOSED IN CABIN I'M SURE IT WAS NOT OPENED UP FOR SEVEN YEARS LIKE THE WINDOWS AND DOORS.... WOULDN'T THE SMELL HAVE STUCC AROUND AND WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN FLUIDS LEAKING OUT AND FLIESE AND MAGGOTS AROUND THE OPENING OF THE FIREPLACE BECAUSE WOULDN'T SKIN AND STUFF FALL TO THE FLOOR... I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE DID DO ANYTHING JUST HOW I FEEL AND IF HE DIDN'T DO IT HE COULD HAVE BEEN COVERING FOR SOMEONE... SOMEONE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS OR OPINION ON MY ASSUMPTION
But why would the owner of the cabin give the thumbs up on demolishing the home if he did commit the murder. Was he that dumb thinking the remains wouldn’t be found?!
That last story made me feel so sick. I know they had no choice but to wait to pull the ship up, but the thought of hearing your friends pretty much begging for help and knowing there is nothing you can do...I don't think I would ever get over that. I have so much sympathy for the people in these stories and only hope that they will one day be able to move on from these tragedies.
The Pearl Harbor movie actually did try a scene where people were trying to cut into the ship BECAUSE of there being people trapped inside and you literally see their efforts be in vain because all they did was speed up their deaths because the room, they were in was filling up with water to where just before the trapped sailors die a few literally stick their hands through the opening in the hull they made and then those hands cease to move and lose their grip on the soldiers trying to free them, it's traumatic knowing you CAN'T help them, it's worse when you do try to help and the very last thing the person or people you try to help are clinging onto you for dear life.
The worst part is they had no way to communicate, meaning the sailors would have no way of knowing that the crew knew they were down there, so they'd be still be holding onto the faint hope that they could somehow be rescued 😢
@@sportcoatjoditv7148 maybe because they were in the middle of war? Focus goes onto fighting and surviving yourself before saving others. Especially if saving the others requires intense effort.
About 4-5 years ago I was a care taker for the elderly. I took care of a sweet old man who told me his story of being at Pearl Harbor as an under water welder and then joining the Navy after those days of saving/losing people out of the ships. Heart wrenching!
I remember when this first story was happening and it effected me so emotionally. I couldn't wrap my head around knowing your loved one is suffocating just below you, within arm's reach, and you're completely helpless. But, I have to admit, the second and third stories sound equally, if not more, horrifying. My theory in regard to the second story is the young man was abducted, raped, and stuffed down the chimney either dead or to die a slow death. The rapist/murderer pushed the table in front of the chimney as an extra measure to hide and confine what he did.
I would think with a missing child, that a cabin that's a "broken down, caving in, pile of wood" would be the first place you'd look. Not only could it attract a child/teenager (heck, even many adults), but it could also attract human predators looking for a place to hide with their victims (or hide their victims). I'm really surprised they never searched it back when he first went missing.
It wasn’t a sacrifice they literally didn’t choose to stay down there and die, the marine just didn’t care and the us really don’t care about the people who served and still serve for their country and it makes me more angry then sad S.n... I’m not being rude just saying cause that made me mad that they just left them
@@cleojudd7464 While i do agree with alot of what you said i still agree that with what they had at the time they could not save those men. It was ANOTHER navy sailor that trapped them in without bothering to check the room, which btw is protocol for a set zed. That sailor made the decision that ended their lives.
@@cleojudd7464 they didn’t care did all the tears shed mean they didn’t care the requests to save them? They were in the belly of the ship rescue was impossible with the fact the equipment water quality or conmen sense of rescue was possible they would have done it but the lack of equipment and there being a war going on maybe instead of spitting on the navy for having to leave those men you should honor those who have fallen during the attack
The last story was absolutely heart breaking. I can only imagine how the guards felt, knowing that their brothers in arms were only a few feet beneath them, but still out of reach.
@@nvmffs Pearl Harbor is less than 50 ft deep, which is why the Navy built their base there. And if the guards could hear them banging on the ship, it wasn't that far down.
@@RanierMedic So why were they talking about pressure? The pressure is nothing at that depth. It would also not be that dark. They could've at least tried to save them.
@@nvmffs @MRBallen, please correct me if I make any mistakes here, I was a medic, not a diver. If you dive into a pool and swim down to the bottom at 3 foot, you can feel the pressure the water puts on your ears. Repeat the same thing at the 6 and 9 foot depths, and the pressure is greater. I don't know what the actual pressure is, but it can get pretty uncomfortable if you stay down there for a bit. Now, the room they were in was at least partially pressurized, because it was able to maintain enough of an air pocket for the three of them to survive for 17 days. So in order to get to them within that time frame, they had two choices: either cut in from the outside, or try to navigate their way in through the inside. In either event, once the seal on that room was breached, water would have rushed in to fill the space, moving anything that wasn't bolted to the floor when it did, including the three men. So a rescue effort that came in through the interior would lose the men in the darkness, and the men would drown before they could be rescued, and potentially given an air source (SCUBA hadn't been invented yet). Cutting in from the outside would require getting through 200 to 300 millimeters of armor plating on the hull of the ship, which would take a long time. As soon as a hole was cut into the hull, water would begin shooting into the cabin, releasing the trapped air, and filling the space. It would probably take hours to cut a big enough hole for the three men, even one at a time, to escape from the room, and by that time, they would have drowned. Unfortunately, the limits of the available technology at that point just could not enable a rescue of that kind.
I visited Pearl Harbor on Memorial Day Weekend in 2019... it was so unbelievably sad. What also got to me was the stories of the surviving soldiers who would pay their respects year after year, and some have had their remains buried in the ships to be reunited with their fallen brothers. That Truth definitely opened up the waterworks for me. I cannot begin to fathom the survivors guilt, the grief, the horror, the trauma.... May their Souls find Peace in the Beautiful views of O’ahu surrounding them.
millitary soldier know the risk of war but the worst thing was to ended the war the US had to use 2 nuclear bomb against the japanese , US would have known the destructive power of those after doing testing
Those poor soldiers. How horrifying & sad. Imagine those soldiers that had to listen to that tapping knowing they couldn’t do a thing to help their brothers. The anguish. 😭
To have my brother a few feet away from me screaming my name they would not have been able to pull me out of that hole. As for set Zed how many of those soldiers had serious therapy or even committed suicide afterwards. As for the boy in the chimney somebody got away with murder. Thanks for the stories some of these are just heart-wrenching.
This dude really said “To have my brother a few feet away from me screaming my name they would not have been able to pull me out of that hole. As for set Zed how many of those soldiers do you think had serious therapy or even committed suicide afterwards. As for the boy in the chimney somebody got away with murder. Thanks for the stories some of these are just heart-wrenching.” Smh😔
@@sancho8521 The clothes off and folded is really strange too. After 7 years any evidence would have blown away. I saw a pic of the cabin and it wasn't hard to break into. Maybe he thought he was climbing to hell. :P
Police don't think he died in the chimney. They believe he was already dead when his murderer or murderers crammed him into the chimney inorder to hide his body.
SetZed: What a horrible way to die. Like others have mentioned I’m sure many others died probably from suicide not being able to cope with the memories that would have haunted their lives. Just absolutely horrendous.
Even if they had died with an attempt to cut a hole, it would still have been an attempt. But they didnt even try, and that makes me even more angry for the sailors and their family
Those men who were sitting stuck on a ship like that, I can only imagine how intense it was. To all the brave men and women who fight for our freedom you will always be remembered! POW•MIA•KIA
Even a year later, and despite the horrific ends to so many people in Mr Ballan's stories - I'm just so moved by the last one. God Bless those 3 sailor, and may their souls now rest in peace.
The last story surprised me on this one as it's a story that I was told as a little girl by my great uncle. He was one of the men ordered to stand guard after the sinking of the ship that he was supposed to be on. It was very distressing on all of the soldiers involved and my uncle went on to never have a family of his own and never went into full detail about what happened at pearl harbor and would be visibly shaken if it was ever brought up. 😢
Thank you for his service, if you will. I can't imagine! The amount of remorse he must have felt, all of them for that matter. The hours must have felt like eternity to those men trapped and on watch. This one got my heart
My grandpa was there as well. The most he said about it was how after they had to try to free the men trapped in the ships that weren't fully submerged yet. He'd always trail off and get very quiet after saying he still remembered the sound of men trapped banging on the sides. He was awarded a huge wrench that was engraved for it. Now I have it right next to his flag along with his and my uncle's (his son's) tags. Can't imagine how horrible it was for everyone that was there that day
Ms. Balibrera, I cannot imagine what your Great Uncle and his fellows had to endure whilst guarding the wreckage. So much of military philosophy lends itself to the notion of never leaving fellow soldiers behind, dead or alive. To be ordered to turn away from those tenets after the trauma and destruction of the attack while simultaneously knowing you cannot save those alive in the water beneath you, . . . well, like I said, I cannot imagine. I don't think anyone who wasn't there could quite imagine it. Ye gods, what pain and anguish it must have been to hear those desperate sounds every day. Beyond everything, I honor him for his service and send thanks to his spirit for enduring what no one should ever have to endure. I honor him for doing a job and in the process suffering through what had to have been a uniquely-excruciating sorrow, an emotionally-flaying gauntlet of sorrow that should never be asked of anyone. Years later, in 2022, as I read your comment, my heart breaks for what he and others must have felt in those days after the attack. It is my hope that somehow, his mind and spirit, his soul and being, found a way to peace, after such a wretched ordeal.
@BadBlood&TheCommonGround Good for him, he was also a liar because their were no slaves at Pearl Harbor. We don’t pity liars, they are an embarrassment to the American name.
Poor sailors 💔 Poor everyone in these stories really..and I think that the kid in the chimney might have been sexually assaulted and murdered. I wish these horrible things didn't happen to ppl.
I’m confused on the second story. The owner of the cabin said that he had been in the cabin within the 7 years and hadn’t noticed anything out of the ordinary. But, later in the episode there are two unordinary details that were shared. The wet bar was removed from the wall and placed in front of the fireplace, and a stack of clothing was neatly folded inside the cabin. I believe I would notice these things as being abnormal?
The place was used a lot by teenagers to hang out since it was (semi abandoned), so clothes or things out of place wasnt strange. Josh at the time started hunging out with a new friend that was described as a creep, years later that kid turned out to be a sexual predator and a killer
Sink holes were one of my fears the three years I lived in Florida. Small one did open in nearby road after a storm once. Sinkholes, gators, and Florida man were always on my radar.
Only two of those are actually dangerous. The other will leave you alone as long as you dont mess with him and as long as you dont go stomping around in his house. I'm talking about the gators of course
And the fact that it could happen to any of us at any time. Could be in bed sleeping like that poor guy was, or sitting on the sofa watching tv or something, and suddenly you're being swallowed by the earth.
Someone else other than the owner killed the poor kid, it was another kid slightly older that was a suspect every other kid pointed towards to. The slightly older kid was described as a "creep", he liked getting high and murdering according to texts messages. It's been months since I watched the video about this particular case from a different channel. I hope this helps one way or another 😊
Suffocating to death when you have food and water and know there’s someone out there that can hear you and possibly save you, sounds like a slow and most horrible death. So sad 😢
Omg yes number one is truly horrible. I had already heard something about this before. Much of this information isn’t taught in schools and a lot of people grow up thinking that America did all this terrible stuff to Japan, not knowing what they did first. Thank you for sharing this and RIP to all of the souls who perished at Pearl Harbor.
Great! another night of insomnia due to irrational fear of falling through my house into an internal abyss of dirt. but I do love these damn stories. first channel I turned on notifications for
We had half an apartment complex 4 buildings sunken into sink holes in Orlando FL about 10 years ago. They were in the process of finishing the buildings so nobody lived there yet but it's more insane that they actually finished and people now actually live in them
He 100% reminds me, looks, humor, the whole 9, completely of my old buddy I grew up with and sadly moved away from, Derek Bernard... so much so Derek was also miltary...
i accidentally found him and got hooked on the “top 3 places people weren’t supposed to go but did anyways” and binged every episode of it in a day haha
My goodness, these three stories are just so sad, so crazy that these kinds of things actually happen and the lives couldn’t even be helped out of a stressful situation. So many ways for a persons life to end. Geez, better pray everyday and count the blessing of life ! Never know when something bizarre will happen like they did to these folks. I may just have to watch this one again. Good job with the story telling Mr Ballen ! You’re very good! At your story.
@@nicoleshrum3526 because of the “what’re we gonna do to the like button today?!” phrase which is reminiscent of Pinky’s (and I’m paraphrasing) “what are we doing today, Brain?” in the intro to every episode.
Story #1 just shows you’re not safe anywhere, when your times up it’s up. I can’t imagine relaxing in bed and the friggin ground opens up and swallows you 😳 WTF!!!
Just don't live in Florida. It does that there occasionally, particularly when unscrupulous developers don't do a proper geological survey of the ground before they build housing developments.
This has made such an impression. It's absolutely terrifying, it felt like I was there. It takes a very brave person to do these things. Very well told! R.I.P. to the fallen....
My grandfather was a chaplain in the navy stationed at Pearl Harbor during it’s bombing . He was also in the Korean War. He crossed over March 9th of 1999. He saved my life in 1997. I love him so much. So proud to call him grandpa
That last story is heart breaking!!! can you imagine being alive knowing you could be saved but can't be. Or even the marines that had to sit there and listen to it! Wow! Soooooo sad!!!
If there's one thing I've learned from these stories, it's that if there's a missing person, check the chimneys on vacant houses. If there's two things, the other is don't go in underwater caves.
RIP Jeff my guy that’s a horrible way to go and the fact his body was never found sucks RIP fly high RIP Josh being cramped for that long must hurt RIP and fly high RIP Cliff,Ron and Buddy that sucks having to bang on a door for that long and nobody coming rlly suck RIP and fly high
10:11 Looks like a Martin Backpacker Guitar. One of my favorite and most played guitars of all time! May you rest in peace Joshua, I wish your family love and support ❤️
The Florida sinkholes are no joke! I can't imagine loosing a family member that way.. The 2nd story is too suspicious, someone knows something and eventually the truth will come out..3rd so sad..being military they should have informed the family no matter how tragic or heinous the outcome.
I grew up on Pearl Harbor and heard this story when I was young. I thought it was a ghost tale. Ive been to Pearl harbor Memorial so many times. And one time this old guy pointed out a few names and I found out it was all true. Heart breaking
The most distressing command any leader can give is one that involves the death of fellow servicemen in order to save a ship, or a unit involved in contact with the enemy. A lot of people will try to arm chair quarter back the situation and state what they would or would not do. To be perfectly honest, no one in thier right mind can tell before hand what they would do in a situation where there was loss of lives and in order to save lives, a particular mission, or in the navy's case a ship they would let fellow service members die for the greatest good. Great video there Mr. Ballin!
@Von Vomit ~ but they didn't let them die to preserve or save the ship.... it was because there was literally nothing that they could do.... they had no way to get them out.
@@Irish_Georgia_Girl Yes, that is true. But as I said, no one should arm chair quarterback such a situation. The men could have tried to go back and try to rescue those left inside the ship. That alone would have gotten men killed in a failed rescue attempt. So was it a good decision to not rescue the men? Yes it was. But those men who did get off that ship will probably never forget that.
It's so tragic the way they died. If they had the equipment and techniques we have today, they might have been saved. Sadly they didn't. I have to wonder if there was a way for them to scrub the air in the pump room as they are usually filled with all kinds of equipment. I know it can't help now, but I'm curious to know.
@@elegurl400xo6 police in America are not smart. They're dumb former high school jocks looking for easy power trip. Only takes 6 weeks to become a cop.
My grandpa cliff survived pearl harbor. I don't remember him ever laughing or smiling. I can't imagine what all he seen. He was assigned to remove the dead bodies
I live on a boat and OMG, these stories are the absolute literal stuff of nightmares for me. Every liveaboard has nightmares about their boat filling with water! I'm in Seattle and have been out in Puget Sound with waves that have tilted my 36ft 1954 Chris Craft to almost capsizing - almost. She's a tough old girl. It is terrifying, though. Humans are not even remotely in charge on the sea.
Josh maddox story is always so heartbreaking no matter how many times i hear it i cry everytime 😢 and because he looks lkke my son it hurts more. His poor family may he alwahs rip ❤
In reading more about Josh's story, one suspect, Andrew, has the M.O. of some of the missing cases where belongings are "folded up and neatly placed" in various locations. He is supposed to be in a mental institution but it sounds like he might be out. Very strange... Pearl Harbor's story is tragic beyond belief.
That is by far one of the hardest things you could ever have to do - sit by waiting for someone to die knowing you are helpless to help them - all the while wishing there was something you could do. It is an event you will NEVER forget.
Watch Bella Fiori for the full case, it wasn't solved but based on some information....I think he was murdered somehow and by the guy he went to visit who was jealous of him
Have y’all noticed the most compelling places to search for someone such as a cabin when people are missing is always overlooked? Buildings in the immediate area would be the first place I would look...
Yeah but in the chimney? Actually a few people have disappeared and been found in the chimney way later. One guy years. The reason why is they suffocate. By the time people are searching. Yet they have not started to smell yet. It's always abandoned places.
Yeah especially places that look or are known to be abandoned. If the culprit knows the building is never used by anyone, it seems like a fitting place to cover up a murder. And if it's abandoned, then the police don't even have to confront the people living there at the time, although of course would presumably still need a warrant in this case seeing as the cabin had an owner.
I doubt Joshua was murkt. Going by what Blair said in that people usually suffocate in these cases, and given his age, I theorize that this was indeed an accident. This was a cabin that he frequented when after he finished exploring it, he would continue exploring in it his sexuality. A huge part of the reason he would go out on walks alone in the forest is due to the lack of privacy existing at his home. The breakfast bar wasn't torn off intentionally, it was used initially as a bench where he could comfortably sit at and sometimes, maybe, to masturbate. Since breakfast bars are not designed to support the weight of a person sitting upon it, one day it finally gave out. Now without a seat to sit at it was time to explore other options at how he was supposed to comfortably jerk off, and it would eventually lead him to the fireplace. Usually the most eye catching feature when peering through cabin windows are typically fireplaces; when Joshua would beat his meat atop the breakfast bar, it was across from the fireplace and away from immediate visibile exposure that the windows could bring. He would then use the broken off breakfast bar as a cover to seal himself off from sight in the case that somebody might look in through the window. Since it was not mentioned that there was any real effort to hide his body (like the breakfast board was not bolted to the fireplace or anything) and the fact that because his underwear and pantaloons were found neatly folded beside the fireplace is an indication that this was all his own doing, even wedging himself with his bottom side turned up the chute. Reasons why: while he could turn his shirt inside out and sneak it past his family without raising suspicion, he could not just turn his pants inside out and get it by unnoticed upon his return and so removing his pants and drawers seemed necessary because if he left them on and/or brought it inside the fireplace he would have got them noticeably dirty with fireplace grime and soot and that would raise inquiry back at home with his family. In tandem with using the breakfast bar as a makeshift seal to hide himself from exposure from anyone who might look in through the window, the reason why Joshua wedged himself upside down up the chimney, aside from the possibility that he thought he might experience a unique form of sexual gratification, this positioning could have also given him the advantage of being able to peek out through a crack between the frame of the fireplace and the breakfast bar which he could then use whatever visual information he might receive to judge whether he could proceed or he should keep still and be quiet. Ultimately, he did keep very quiet and became stiffly still because what he most likely saw, regardless which direction he faced, was the light at the end of a dark tunnel.
I was so shocked to hear you mention Seffner. I'm from there and I vividly remember that sink hole. It was actually only about 2 miles from my grandma's house. I even have friends that live in the next town over and they can't get sink hole insurance because they're "too close to Seffner".
I've never heard of sink hole insurance. That's crazy. You'd think it'd just fall under house insurance or I guess it's somenhing that can either be or not be included in house insurance. Interesting.
One of these days the Like button is gonna pull a Rambo - tie a bandana over its thumb, strap on a bandolier and a rifle, call MrBallen and say, "I'm coming... for you!"
😂😂🤣🤣
I love all the Rambo movies so that just made it better
Murdock
Hahaha that is hilarious 😂😂😂
@@stangarrison9561 great merch idea for shirts
Mr. Ballen’s wife absolutely forbids him from reading the kids a bedtime story.
Underrated
You should be more appreciated
He scared his wife away
You mean MrsBallen
If he did they'd still be awake Now!
These are absolutely horrible. Wanting to save people but not being able to would be so torturous. I would just not be able to cope.
to be honest I would have just taken the risk of cutting the hole. I would much rather die quickly then slowly and painfully.
Im the second comment on this comment
@@powerman9923 I’m the third comment in this comment
still first
@@sethmackenzie4419 they couldn't do that because of the fire/explosion risk to other people. i don't understand why they didn't intentionally try and burn off those chemicals and clear the area. such a tragic situation to be in and i couldn't imagine the terror those men went through.
that's such a horrible way to go.. I could not imagine how those guys would have been feeling. Rest easy brothers. Semper Fi
I watch theses so I don’t do what theses people do
It seems so unlike US navy not to have tried something to get them out. I understand the forces, pressure and chemicals would hamper the usual attempts. I also understand the limit of my own intelligence on the matter. I would just rather die during some sort of rescue attempt than the way they went. Do the smart commenters on here have any suggestions to how they could have tried to save them? And how did they eventually retrieve them?
My martial arts instructor told me this story years ago. An older family member of his, an Uncle I believe, was one of the Marines who stood guard and listened to those trapped Saliors make noise down there until they died.
Semper Fortis.
@@feralorc04 yeah, dunno- haven't found much info on what they tried. I love sailing but this is a bit of a fear of mine. MrBallen has another video of the Nigerian guy (trapped underwater in pitch black for 3 days I think) while sharks were seeking a snack. Don't know which is worse.
That sink hole story was terrifying on every level! It’s so tragic, inescapable, unpredictable and horrifying! The victim did nothing risky, dangerous or anything that could have caused it, yet absolutely couldn’t have avoided or escape it either. He was just relaxing at home where he should have been safe. I really can’t find words to describe how frightening and horrendous this must have been for him and how traumatized his poor brother must still be.
Yep summed up perfectly, my exact thoughts.
I've read of a few others , about the same, as well
I had a strong feeling the first story would be set here in Florida based off of the title but the case took me in a while different direction than I thought. That shit was legitimately terrifying and I thought the same too…he did nothing wrong and no one could’ve known 😞
Yes absolutely horrible so sad
It is like a worst fear thing for me. i think about those things often as I try to sleep. So horrifying. So sad for this guy and his family.
I can’t imagine the pain that brother from the sink hole story must have gone through losing Jeff like that. I’m the older sibling and I would do absolutely anything for my sister, including jumping into a sink hole to find her. He was by his brother’s side until the end. Rest easy. 💓
My name Jeff.
@@Azubjourni Not a time to make a joke
@@FuturisticHairline 😂
@@Azubjourni 😐
@@FuturisticHairline Im sorry
These stories make me take a minute to be grateful for my life
Amen brotha
Yeah that first one really made me think and be grateful
100%
Ayo that pfp is the wallpaper on my pc🤣
Yeah
RIP Jeffery....what a horrible way to go- God rest his soul💜🙏
R.I.P
RIP😭🙏🙏
is jeffery the 3rd one buys still i pay all respects r.i.p
Pray that God grant Jeffery the resting spot of heavens hearthstone 😞
That is so sweet
For west central Florida, sinkholes are a fact of life. Usually they are an expensive inconvenience, but the Seffner sinkhole incident really shook me to the core. The fact that the poor dude was swallowed up like that and that they were unable to safely recover the body was both terrifying and heartbreaking.
In the sinkhole story, I'm not sure who suffered more, the brother that fell in the hole or the one trying to save him and couldn't. The guilt,fear and trauma the surviving brother must have felt for years afterward. I had to sit down for a minute after that story. I have never felt empathy so strongly for another person.
Yea it’s one thing to lose a family member. To actually be there, and witness their demise while you’re literally standing right on top of them with no way to do anything to help, listening to screams... Yea that’s pretty horrendous. Especially it being in your own home too. Mannn..
Well said
Yes. I would kill or die for my brother. Damn, that had to have been brutal for him.
@@cooliodiablo6117 my friends brother died in his arms. he got shot, ran back home and died in his arms. my friend needed therapy and stilll feels guilty to this day, 5 years now. my friend was 12 at the time too.
@@Jacob-es5tv thats very sad to hear. In such a young age and already seeing family member die in their arms is too much to bare to even to adults.
That last story ripped my heart out not only for the sailors trapped but the ones who had to stand guard. What a horrific tragedy 😢
How the fuck r u still alive
Because I'm stronger than you
@@kathysmith4261 not in bed tho
Maybe , maybe not.
@@kathysmith4261 this story ripped your heart out but id rip your something else
I'm a Floridian and I remember when this happened. That poor family, I can't imagine having something like that happen and losing someone you love. They're very common here and the idea of a sinkhole opening up at any time scares the hell out of me.
So am I
Get out of that crazy state
Reasons to move from Florida. Too much water, many sinkholes, hurricanes are getting stronger, life is expensive, you can not have a basement. Coming from South Florida takes for ever to come out of Florida. Drivers are very aggressive and violent, beautiful houses complex built over fill reclaimed land. Literally Florida is floating on water and waiting for the mega tsunami coming from La Palma, Canarian Islands.🤦🏼♀️
@@maggiewaden8274 Shhhhh... Always remember, we must entice our vacationers, future retirees and those looking to move here with our sun, beaches, gated communities and resorts. They don't need to know those other pesky facts. 🤣🤣😂😂
Exactly!!! Im moving back up north soon!! I miss snow and its way too expensive down here!! When you have to work 2 jobs for living.....so you cant enjoy the Florida life....just going from air conditioning to air conditioning lol
The 2nd story with Josh Maddock actually had a later development where they found out one of Josh's friends was with the last person to see him alive. As brutal as it sounds, I think it's a possible teenage rape case. Josh's friend came onto him, got rejected, killed his friend in the process then stuffed him in the chimney and tried to cover up the evidence. Psycho killer friend or not this was definitely a murder and one of the most chilling unsolved cases that got me hooked on horror podcasts. He was so young and spirited, rip sweet boy 💗
A rape case was my immediate thought as well when the clothing he was missing was listed. How absolutely horrible.
Poor thing
I thought I have heard all the horrible stories narrated by MrBAllen and others but this was another level it ought to be narrated in a separate video
@@bbhodhod it's so sad : c
Yeah I definitely jumped to SA and murder. Condolences to the family and peace after life for Josh
The only thing worse than a sudden death is a slow, painful and sure death with absolutely no respite. Tragic! I've heard the story about the kid in the cabin before and that's just purely bizarre! I'd think there would have had to be someone else involved.
Of course there was. No pants? I think some pervert got him and probably sexually abused him and stuffed him in the chimney or something like that.
Yeah we know he died "7 years" before they found him but there is zero way to know down to the month. He could have been alive and being hurt for sometime inside the cabin. I wonder if the owner was ever really looked at or if it could have been a transient or something.
@@LilAnnThrax It probably wasn't but I cant help wonder if they investigated the owner of the cabin at all
@@LilAnnThrax Unlikely, The owner of the cabin was the one who pushed for an investigation. He's the reason the case was reopened.
Additionally the owners story is both consistent and tragic, yes he owned the cabin but it was never "his" him and his brother had co-owned since the 60's and his brother had lived their alone until his death a few years prior to the boy's disappearance. The cabin owner only ever visited to drop off things for long term storage. The whole reason the cabin was in disrepair is that ever since his brothers death he didn't like visiting the cabin.
Add these facts, along with the clothes being neatly folded as in cared for and the likelihood of you being killed by a close family member or friend and well if he was murdered as the cabin owner insists, Then it was probably someone Josh knew.
its already statistically likely the absence of damage to the body, the delicate handling of his clothes and he was killed near his home simply make it more so.
@DonnaTarawneh
That was exactly what I was thinking
So unbelievably heartbreaking having to leave our men to die like that. They deserve so much better...I cant imagine their fellow servicemen having to listen to them dieing and being literally helpless to save them. That truly is horrific...God bless those brave souls and all our men and women protecting us around the world.
@Roselinah Anderson bro it was 1941 technology wasn't as advanced
@@princesprincess1413 lol
@Roselinah Anderson right?? They said they did that 6 months later! Like what took so long
They're tech wasnt that advanced back then- plus he said if they tried to dig him up the hole will get bigger and wider and the whole street could be gone
Bruh he literally said they had the boat strapped BUT IT WOULD TAKE MONTHS BC THEY ARE SO DEEP DOWN. :)
The last story is so tragic. I cannot even imagine the horror and the terror the people felt hearing the cries for help.
Why not have hoses with oxygen ready to be pumped in so when you cut that first little hole & the water floods into the cabin you shove the tubes/hoses with oxygen there for the trapped crew, while you then frantically attempt to cut a bigger hole?
can you imagine the horror and terror of the people that actually MADE the cries for help???
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Or build an air tight pocket to work outside the ship in. They did have plastic back then didn't they? Or why not have divers go inside the ship and bring them tanks so they would swim out with the divers. They could have made it to them in 13 days. WTF!
@@susancoulter4129 watch the video again and this time listen carefully and try to understand the words
@@susancoulter4129 The only reason they could breath, is because they were trapped with air. Now imagine sinking to the bottom of the ocean in a ship really deep down........ down to the sea floor. Now imagine the only way you're not being crushed by the extreme sea water pressure outside in a sunken damaged ship, is the air inside you're breathing in the ship, thats also keeping all the pressure from crushing you. Now to have air, in a pocket, that they were breathing, underwater, in a sunken ship, shows that they were truly sealed in, "air tight". Now imagine taking the extremely pressurized compartment they were stuck in, thats completely air tight, from their outside surrounding (sea) and poking a tiny little hole in it, even as small as a pencil hole. The effect's of such a small hole in their air pocket would be so extreme, its not even a joke. The pocket would immediately depressurize, and if not, explode under so much outside pressure as hundreds of thousands of gallons of sea water are forced through that tiny hole ever second/minute. All the men would have frozen to death, or died in seconds from drowning, once a single hole, or crack had made its way through their hull/air pocket. In fact, the 2 options still to this day i believe to save other people in this same situation, is still to raise the ship to the surface, or by wielding a pressurized rig to the haul of the ship by a coupling, and then cutting a hole into the ship where the air tight pocket is expected to be located at, so the crew can escape. Both these options are beyond risky, and mostly never possible to even work. Fact is, one out of a million times, if you sink to the bottom of the ocean, you might be rescued. But the reality is, your going to die if this happens to you, and their is nothing anyone can really do to help u.
That first one is so brutal - absolutely nothing you could do to prevent such a incident. No recklessness, no mystery...good god!
As a Sailor, I cannot imagine hearing a shipmate signaling for help and not being able to do anything....
Just a reply for the algorythm
Ok one question: do you sailor men still sing sea shanties?
@@Goingus345 no...at least not on aircraft carriers...
@@JackieTrainwreck wait I think I miss understood
@@Anonymous-me7wu yea I realised that😂😂😂
Damn, anyone else sitting on their bed watching this,suddenly paranoid about a sinkhole under 😳😳
Literally.... Just got done sayin "what if one happens rn" out loud... Shit crazy
I think about that every night when I’m laying in bed
Not until I read this
Yep that sinkhole problem is known in Florida
I feel like I'm not safe from sink holes anywhere
Mr. Ballen should consider reading for audio books. His voice is so soothing and expressive, its as if you're actually there and experiencing the stories he shares with him.
yea
That would be so epic.
I agree!!
great idea!
@Pat Johnson good one Johnson... 🙂
That poor guy who lost his brother really struck a nerve. I lost my oldest brother in 02, in an alcohol involved collision. Ripped me to pieces.
I'm really sorry for you loss my brother. I want you to know this, your brother loves you very much and wants you to know that he's very proud of you and how far you've come in life.
Very sorry to hear that, bud.
My heart aches for that man’s loss and yours. A sibling bond is a special one and even while amongst the stars, he feels your love. May he rest peacefully.
Sorry for your loss
So sorry for your loss. While I can’t imagine what you and your family went through I can relate to the pain of losing a loved one. My older brother (my only sibling) passed away in 2020. I was there when it happened. It still haunts me to this day. My deepest condolences to you, wishing you healing and peace.
If I was stuck in the ship I’d rather die from people trying to save me than a slow inevitable death
Just me spitballing, but couldnt they pump the water near the ship with fresh enough water to prevent a chemical issues then weld a big steel tube like a saturation diving bell and use hoses to pump pressurized air in, then have a device pierce the hull within the welded tube, so no water would come in but now air could come in via the hoses and this way that crew could survive until they could lift the ship, ideally feed a wire in the hole so they could communicate too, could do the same thing again if they needed a fresh water hose or even some sort of liquid food
@@SeanPannella that would 100% work
@@SeanPannella They had no way of communication, so had no idea there was food and water available to them.
Agreed. They could have tried something!!!
@@Haze1434 but they heard the taps
Listening to the USS West Virginia Story literally raises the hair on my skin, & my heart sank. How desperate those poor sailors were, they probably died thinking no one knew they were in there, or they would be saved at any minute. This is one of the worst fates I can think of
Not that there are good ways to die, but this is a horrible way to die.
R.I.P.🙏❤️
They could have got them guys out of there.... thats some bullshit way to die ,,,, Your own men let you die ...
@@ufohunters4612 That's what I asked above: Why did they let them die down there?
James Allen well dying in bed at 90 in your sleep is much better than suffocating slowly at 18-20 yrs old at the bottom of a dark ocean, knowing every gasp of air could be the last...mental anguish, thinking about this makes me nauseous, like I can literally feel the despair....I like how MrBallen incorporated a war story in here, I’m a sucker for history but hearing stories like this are horrible. Read about the fate of soldiers in stalingrad! The 6th army saw a huge smoke filled cloud in august that resembled a cross, & I was reading a memoir from a Wehrmacht soldier & he later stated little did they know that their fate was sealed! Slowly starving, & cannabalising one another, not being able to sleep for fear of freezing or being picked off by wolves and snipers.
who just found this guy randomly and just kept on watching him.. just me?
edit: didn't expect to rack up so many likes, please get him to see it!!!
I just ended up here randomly :-)
I got here as well.
Me
I just saw him on my fyp
Some how I got from school tik tok povs to here sooo...
Josh Maddux was a friend of my brothers. We lived in Woodland Park about half a mile from that old house on the same road. I can’t imagine how many times I must have walked past his body growing up. Absolutely crazy to think about. Poor guy
His body might have not been there, but put there later on.
What’s the general consensus in that area ?
Dying in a chimney of a broken down house sounds so depressing
I haven't watched yet but I didn't know santa died rip
There’s a strikingly similar story of a kid in England called Michael Jarrett Lowe.
scepticpeg.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/islington-the-mysterious-death-of-michael-jarrett-lowe-1974/
Found upside down in a chimney with something blocking the entrance.
This is too weird.
The neatly folded clothes made me think of missing 411...
The cabin story easily freaked me out
Interesting read!
I don’t understand how the cabin wasn’t looked through immediately. Who cares what the outside looks like? If anything if there’s a missing kid that would seem to be all the more reason to look through.
I dont get that either... mrballen even shows a real life photo of it and it looked like a really nice cabin, def not a junk pile
@@gingereden546 might be a cover up. Looks like a rape
@@smarty5680 yeah very suspicious for sure
Yeah, I mean falling down buildings are magnets for kids. Kids think they'll live forever.
You would think like the cops normally think kids run away right so you could think to look in a abandon looking building bc they might’ve went there for shelter or something and also what I was thinking is what if he went for a walk with some friends and then like they dared him to go In the chimney and when he got stuck they did everything they could to cover it up and just left him there
When your so early that MrBallen doesnt even say, "Are you a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format"
ok
Omg i read it will h e was saying it
That’s because he doesn’t do the strange dark and mysterious anymore.
ok
@@wormymachine6386 welp
The last story made me tear up, can you imagine to fear those three Marines felt knowing they were trapped!? :( Tonight I will light a candle for each of them and and there will be three minutes silence in my home in remembrance of them, I grew up in Military family and have nothing but respect for anyone who has or is currently serving their country, absolutely including MrBallen ❤️ Thank you.
R.I.P Cliff, Buddy and Ron, sleep tight Angels x
What a compassionate thoughtful person you are, I love your gratitude.❤
That’s so awesome of you to do. Take care ❤️
Set zed sounds so awful. I can't imagine being underwater slowly dying.
Well it’s actually setting zebra but altogether the same thing. It can be very haunting when hearing that caller over the 1MC
I cried listening to that. I can’t imagine having to take turns with your arms partners to listen to see how long the ones trapped can survive with no help.
Exactly it made me so sad they were serving their country and this is how they are repaid they were basically tortured and nobody could help them
I feel stupid for asking this, but why did they need the guys standing guard to listen and see how long it took them to die? I watched this whole video but I must have missed something...
@@Irish_Georgia_Girl it was probably to make sure no one tried to do anything. Like the guy stated there’s a lot of risks to a lot of things and they probably had guards standing by to make sure no one tried anything that would get more people hurt. I wouldn’t have been able to bare it. I would have been one of the people being restrained.
My Friends: SO what kind of youtube videos do you watch?
Me: Well its complicated...
No its not
PLS THATS ME
Ty for the likes this is the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment
Well thers this guy that tells stories...did I mentiong he was a Navy Seal?
You should’ve said “ the strange, dark and mysterious kind, delivered in a story format-duh” 💁🏼♀️🙈😆🤓
Peace to those fallen Sailors...They showed strength till the very end.
Never Forget the Fallen
True
A great friend of my family who passed away in 2019 or 2020( I forget) was on the West Virginia during Pearl Harbor. He managed to survive and always talked about a guardian angel who told him what to do to escape alive. His name was Cal Calderone if anyones curious he was the last Ohioan Pearl Harbor survivor I believe
Must have been a great friend if you dont know if he passed 3 or 2 years ago ....
I dont remember the year exactly and now I know it was in 2020 due to covid so calm down
No way?! That’s amazing but saddening. This story was really upsetting for me. I’m sorry I don’t understand but why couldn’t they have raised the ship immediately? That’s terrifying and very upsetting to me how the navy had to deal with that particular situation involving their fellow men. I’m really sorry I don’t understand but I would appreciate someone explaining why they couldn’t have raised the ship up immediately? Thank you.
@@22SweetTeaRexes the ship was most likely unstable
@@bepowerification I agree lol.
I love how he’s making a scare-a-thon since it’s Halloween it’s more like a Christmas present
Facts!!
Just trying to do my part!
@@3nchantress ong im so happy this is happining
His channel is the TH-cam equivalent of The Nightmare Before Christmas.
@@MrBallen you should review navy seal movies or military movies and identify if they are realistic or not
What freaks me out about a lot of these cases is the pile of folded clothing nearby. It's just so peculiar.
It's a murder case I guess...
For my opinion it's not an accident if the clothes are inside and a barrier where the body should be seen, it's like a hint that someone was there with him.
I THINK HE WAS MEETING SOME ONE FOR A BOOTY CALL GOT UNDRESSED AND THEN HE WAS SET UP AND WAS KILLED SOME HOW AND JAMMED INTO THAT FIRE PLACE.... HONESTLY I FELT LIKE THE CABIN OWNER COULD HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT... HOW HAVE YOU ADMIT TO GOING THERE A FEW TIMES IN SEVEN YEARS AND NEVER NOTICED THE DAMAGES OR THE CLOTHING RANDOMLY PLACED THERE OK AND EVEN IF SOME HOW HE DIDN'T NOTICE THE DAMAGES OR THE CLOTHING... HOW DID HE NOT SMELL DEATH OR THE DEAD BODY, ESPECIALLY BEING IN A CLOSED IN CABIN I'M SURE IT WAS NOT OPENED UP FOR SEVEN YEARS LIKE THE WINDOWS AND DOORS.... WOULDN'T THE SMELL HAVE STUCC AROUND AND WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN FLUIDS LEAKING OUT AND FLIESE AND MAGGOTS AROUND THE OPENING OF THE FIREPLACE BECAUSE WOULDN'T SKIN AND STUFF FALL TO THE FLOOR... I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE DID DO ANYTHING JUST HOW I FEEL AND IF HE DIDN'T DO IT HE COULD HAVE BEEN COVERING FOR SOMEONE... SOMEONE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS OR OPINION ON MY ASSUMPTION
Which also is a common similarity between the missing 411 cases as well
I think he got in and then couldn't get out
But why would the owner of the cabin give the thumbs up on demolishing the home if he did commit the murder. Was he that dumb thinking the remains wouldn’t be found?!
That last story made me feel so sick. I know they had no choice but to wait to pull the ship up, but the thought of hearing your friends pretty much begging for help and knowing there is nothing you can do...I don't think I would ever get over that. I have so much sympathy for the people in these stories and only hope that they will one day be able to move on from these tragedies.
The Pearl Harbor movie actually did try a scene where people were trying to cut into the ship BECAUSE of there being people trapped inside and you literally see their efforts be in vain because all they did was speed up their deaths because the room, they were in was filling up with water to where just before the trapped sailors die a few literally stick their hands through the opening in the hull they made and then those hands cease to move and lose their grip on the soldiers trying to free them, it's traumatic knowing you CAN'T help them, it's worse when you do try to help and the very last thing the person or people you try to help are clinging onto you for dear life.
The worst part is they had no way to communicate, meaning the sailors would have no way of knowing that the crew knew they were down there, so they'd be still be holding onto the faint hope that they could somehow be rescued 😢
AND, I had no idea that they raised ships. AND if they could raise the ship. Why'd they have to wait ?
@@sportcoatjoditv7148 maybe because they were in the middle of war? Focus goes onto fighting and surviving yourself before saving others. Especially if saving the others requires intense effort.
they should’ve tried atleast
About 4-5 years ago I was a care taker for the elderly. I took care of a sweet old man who told me his story of being at Pearl Harbor as an under water welder and then joining the Navy after those days of saving/losing people out of the ships. Heart wrenching!
I remember when this first story was happening and it effected me so emotionally. I couldn't wrap my head around knowing your loved one is suffocating just below you, within arm's reach, and you're completely helpless. But, I have to admit, the second and third stories sound equally, if not more, horrifying. My theory in regard to the second story is the young man was abducted, raped, and stuffed down the chimney either dead or to die a slow death. The rapist/murderer pushed the table in front of the chimney as an extra measure to hide and confine what he did.
exactly
Yeah I agree especially the fact he wasn't wearing pants or underwear he was most likely raped 😔
How the hell did police not figure that out i mean it is there job.
And the fact that only the cabin owner had access......
Then destroyed the evidence
I would think with a missing child, that a cabin that's a "broken down, caving in, pile of wood" would be the first place you'd look. Not only could it attract a child/teenager (heck, even many adults), but it could also attract human predators looking for a place to hide with their victims (or hide their victims). I'm really surprised they never searched it back when he first went missing.
...because that's not what the cabin looked like and it was one of many.
He was an adult - 18.
yep, I agree and that story has too many holes in it haha
@@julierobinson3633 Still a kid though. The human brain isn't finished developing until the age of 25.
right? "Hey look! a place!! lets pass it."
RIP: Cliff, Buddy and Ron. Thank you for your sacrifice. May you RIP.
1ST time ever hearing this one.
It wasn’t a sacrifice they literally didn’t choose to stay down there and die, the marine just didn’t care and the us really don’t care about the people who served and still serve for their country and it makes me more angry then sad
S.n... I’m not being rude just saying cause that made me mad that they just left them
@@cleojudd7464 While i do agree with alot of what you said i still agree that with what they had at the time they could not save those men. It was ANOTHER navy sailor that trapped them in without bothering to check the room, which btw is protocol for a set zed. That sailor made the decision that ended their lives.
@@cleojudd7464 they didn’t care did all the tears shed mean they didn’t care the requests to save them? They were in the belly of the ship rescue was impossible with the fact the equipment water quality or conmen sense of rescue was possible they would have done it but the lack of equipment and there being a war going on maybe instead of spitting on the navy for having to leave those men you should honor those who have fallen during the attack
@@sliverjack0283 Till this day the still don’t care bout the people who served abs still serve for this country…
it's so important for people to know about these events, as hard as it may be. thank you for sharing!
The last story was absolutely heart breaking. I can only imagine how the guards felt, knowing that their brothers in arms were only a few feet beneath them, but still out of reach.
A few feet? Are you sure?
@@nvmffs Pearl Harbor is less than 50 ft deep, which is why the Navy built their base there. And if the guards could hear them banging on the ship, it wasn't that far down.
@@RanierMedic So why were they talking about pressure? The pressure is nothing at that depth. It would also not be that dark. They could've at least tried to save them.
@@nvmffs I'm sure our resident frogman could explain it better, but I will give it a shot.
@@nvmffs @MRBallen, please correct me if I make any mistakes here, I was a medic, not a diver.
If you dive into a pool and swim down to the bottom at 3 foot, you can feel the pressure the water puts on your ears. Repeat the same thing at the 6 and 9 foot depths, and the pressure is greater. I don't know what the actual pressure is, but it can get pretty uncomfortable if you stay down there for a bit.
Now, the room they were in was at least partially pressurized, because it was able to maintain enough of an air pocket for the three of them to survive for 17 days. So in order to get to them within that time frame, they had two choices: either cut in from the outside, or try to navigate their way in through the inside. In either event, once the seal on that room was breached, water would have rushed in to fill the space, moving anything that wasn't bolted to the floor when it did, including the three men. So a rescue effort that came in through the interior would lose the men in the darkness, and the men would drown before they could be rescued, and potentially given an air source (SCUBA hadn't been invented yet). Cutting in from the outside would require getting through 200 to 300 millimeters of armor plating on the hull of the ship, which would take a long time.
As soon as a hole was cut into the hull, water would begin shooting into the cabin, releasing the trapped air, and filling the space. It would probably take hours to cut a big enough hole for the three men, even one at a time, to escape from the room, and by that time, they would have drowned.
Unfortunately, the limits of the available technology at that point just could not enable a rescue of that kind.
I visited Pearl Harbor on Memorial Day Weekend in 2019... it was so unbelievably sad. What also got to me was the stories of the surviving soldiers who would pay their respects year after year, and some have had their remains buried in the ships to be reunited with their fallen brothers.
That Truth definitely opened up the waterworks for me. I cannot begin to fathom the survivors guilt, the grief, the horror, the trauma.... May their Souls find Peace in the Beautiful views of O’ahu surrounding them.
millitary soldier know the risk of war but the worst thing was to ended the war the US had to use 2 nuclear bomb against the japanese , US would have known the destructive power of those after doing testing
Imagine the PTSD.... OMG!!!
Those poor soldiers. How horrifying & sad. Imagine those soldiers that had to listen to that tapping knowing they couldn’t do a thing to help their brothers. The anguish. 😭
this is one of the few resons why most ships like that have some form of air tank
Jeffery's death was so horrific and sad. Jeremy loved his brother and tried his best to save him. So very sad. 😢💔
Mom: Why don’t you read more?
Me: but I like spooky and mysterious content delivered in story format
To have my brother a few feet away from me screaming my name they would not have been able to pull me out of that hole. As for set Zed how many of those soldiers had serious therapy or even committed suicide afterwards. As for the boy in the chimney somebody got away with murder. Thanks for the stories some of these are just heart-wrenching.
@@rayaguirre2084 what?
@@rayaguirre2084 wrong place
@Nick Schorgi 😂😂🤣😂
This dude really said “To have my brother a few feet away from me screaming my name they would not have been able to pull me out of that hole. As for set Zed how many of those soldiers do you think had serious therapy or even committed suicide afterwards. As for the boy in the chimney somebody got away with murder. Thanks for the stories some of these are just heart-wrenching.” Smh😔
Joshua was put in that chimney. He would not have gone in head first.
Lots of cavers go in head first ;).
@@DoctorMangler chimney, not a cave... : )
@@sancho8521 The clothes off and folded is really strange too. After 7 years any evidence would have blown away. I saw a pic of the cabin and it wasn't hard to break into. Maybe he thought he was climbing to hell. :P
also, I can't imagine stuffing a body feet first up a chimney. that would be incredibly difficult
@@Alistarwormwood not only that but even getting josh in the chimney, in the fetal position, while he was alive
The scariest place I’ve been stuck was question 12 on a math test
What about Q1?
What about the date?
No question 3 part b
nah man I’m done on the name 💀
lol
I've heard about Josh's story... I couldn't imagine being trapped in a chimney and dying there!! These stories are scary 😨 😳
Police don't think he died in the chimney. They believe he was already dead when his murderer or murderers crammed him into the chimney inorder to hide his body.
SetZed: What a horrible way to die. Like others have mentioned I’m sure many others died probably from suicide not being able to cope with the memories that would have haunted their lives. Just absolutely horrendous.
Even if they had died with an attempt to cut a hole, it would still have been an attempt. But they didnt even try, and that makes me even more angry for the sailors and their family
I wonder why they couldn't have started trying to get the ship up immediately or send divers down and go through the ship and get them somehow?
Those men who were sitting stuck on a ship like that, I can only imagine how intense it was. To all the brave men and women who fight for our freedom you will always be remembered! POW•MIA•KIA
ah yes josh took off his clothes folded it and jumped into a chimney, i def think it was a murder case RIP Josh
what i think is the guy that owned the cabin killed him because he went there after he went missing and he said there was a cover at the top
Yeah I think the police was also with the guy that owned the cabin
Agree
@DDaviDD sounds like a rape and murder case...
@DDaviDD sarcastic?.if so I'm ignoring that on Easter...
Even a year later, and despite the horrific ends to so many people in Mr Ballan's stories - I'm just so moved by the last one. God Bless those 3 sailor, and may their souls now rest in peace.
The last story surprised me on this one as it's a story that I was told as a little girl by my great uncle. He was one of the men ordered to stand guard after the sinking of the ship that he was supposed to be on. It was very distressing on all of the soldiers involved and my uncle went on to never have a family of his own and never went into full detail about what happened at pearl harbor and would be visibly shaken if it was ever brought up. 😢
😢
Thank you for his service, if you will. I can't imagine! The amount of remorse he must have felt, all of them for that matter. The hours must have felt like eternity to those men trapped and on watch. This one got my heart
My grandpa was there as well. The most he said about it was how after they had to try to free the men trapped in the ships that weren't fully submerged yet. He'd always trail off and get very quiet after saying he still remembered the sound of men trapped banging on the sides. He was awarded a huge wrench that was engraved for it. Now I have it right next to his flag along with his and my uncle's (his son's) tags. Can't imagine how horrible it was for everyone that was there that day
Ms. Balibrera,
I cannot imagine what your Great Uncle and his fellows had to endure whilst guarding the wreckage. So much of military philosophy lends itself to the notion of never leaving fellow soldiers behind, dead or alive. To be ordered to turn away from those tenets after the trauma and destruction of the attack while simultaneously knowing you cannot save those alive in the water beneath you, . . . well, like I said, I cannot imagine. I don't think anyone who wasn't there could quite imagine it.
Ye gods, what pain and anguish it must have been to hear those desperate sounds every day.
Beyond everything, I honor him for his service and send thanks to his spirit for enduring what no one should ever have to endure.
I honor him for doing a job and in the process suffering through what had to have been a uniquely-excruciating sorrow, an emotionally-flaying gauntlet of sorrow that should never be asked of anyone.
Years later, in 2022, as I read your comment, my heart breaks for what he and others must have felt in those days after the attack. It is my hope that somehow, his mind and spirit, his soul and being, found a way to peace, after such a wretched ordeal.
@BadBlood&TheCommonGround Good for him, he was also a liar because their were no slaves at Pearl Harbor. We don’t pity liars, they are an embarrassment to the American name.
Poor sailors 💔 Poor everyone in these stories really..and I think that the kid in the chimney might have been sexually assaulted and murdered. I wish these horrible things didn't happen to ppl.
Yeah his cheeks were def smashed 🪦
Patrick Malloy 😐
@@fopal-gang7108 bruh wtf
@Alijah Abbassi for real shit isn’t right
@Alijah Abbassi his comment wasnt even funny honestly
It's scary thinking that a random sinkhole could just engulf you anywhere at anytime in your house
Just one more thing for me to think about while I lie in bed trying to sleep.
Well not anywhere
As a geo gal,I think of this more than I should.
Just in Florida
White sus
OMGOSH!! The first story was SO heartbreaking and sad. RIP and God bless.
I’m confused on the second story. The owner of the cabin said that he had been in the cabin within the 7 years and hadn’t noticed anything out of the ordinary. But, later in the episode there are two unordinary details that were shared. The wet bar was removed from the wall and placed in front of the fireplace, and a stack of clothing was neatly folded inside the cabin. I believe I would notice these things as being abnormal?
The place was used a lot by teenagers to hang out since it was (semi abandoned), so clothes or things out of place wasnt strange. Josh at the time started hunging out with a new friend that was described as a creep, years later that kid turned out to be a sexual predator and a killer
Also wasn't there a smell?
@@Frolic_Cesar the owner barely went there, maybe after some years it would have passed , or could easily be dismissed by a dead animal
@@morfigasoulslayer This is interesting seeing as he was found without his undergarments 🤔
Man.... he is sus.....
Sink holes were one of my fears the three years I lived in Florida. Small one did open in nearby road after a storm once. Sinkholes, gators, and Florida man were always on my radar.
hahaha Florida man xD
Florida man - Ha! That's funny.
"Florida man" "That is very funny!" "xD"
Only two of those are actually dangerous. The other will leave you alone as long as you dont mess with him and as long as you dont go stomping around in his house. I'm talking about the gators of course
I couldn’t live down south..too many scary creepy things down there and also too hot!
The first story gives me chills. Sinkholes are terrifying 😨
And the fact that it could happen to any of us at any time. Could be in bed sleeping like that poor guy was, or sitting on the sofa watching tv or something, and suddenly you're being swallowed by the earth.
@@ville666soraespecially in Florida like Jeff Bush
You should cover the Hello Kitty murder, a case so gruesome and bizarre, people thought it was a creepypasta
yess not many yters talked about it
Hi man
What is a creepypasta? Anelli is a creepy pasta
@@mksouthon9508 its a scary fictional story that spreads around the internet
Would fit in an episode of scary pictures with a disturbing background
That cabin owner should have been an immediate suspect.
Yeah he was probably being rapey with josh and he tried to escape so he blocked him off when he got stuck
Exactly💯👍🏾!
Someone else other than the owner killed the poor kid, it was another kid slightly older that was a suspect every other kid pointed towards to. The slightly older kid was described as a "creep", he liked getting high and murdering according to texts messages. It's been months since I watched the video about this particular case from a different channel. I hope this helps one way or another 😊
@@GreasySwayze If your sourcers is text message, man you don't have sourcers.
He had an alabi. He was with me.
Suffocating to death when you have food and water and know there’s someone out there that can hear you and possibly save you, sounds like a slow and most horrible death. So sad 😢
Omg yes number one is truly horrible. I had already heard something about this before. Much of this information isn’t taught in schools and a lot of people grow up thinking that America did all this terrible stuff to Japan, not knowing what they did first. Thank you for sharing this and RIP to all of the souls who perished at Pearl Harbor.
Great! another night of insomnia due to irrational fear of falling through my house into an internal abyss of dirt. but I do love these damn stories. first channel I turned on notifications for
Thank you!
You rock MrBallen! Thank you for your service!
Florida is a sink hole state. Don't live there, and you'll be fine. There's ancient bedrock under my house for a reason.
You should be safe in Alaska. Sink holes are much more common in Florida due to the type of soil and how it reacts to groundwater
I remember that sinkhole in Florida story and I’ve had a horrible fear of sinkholes ever since!!!
Dang
@Hingle McCringleberry HORRIFYING!!
I can’t imagine and don’t want to imagine
Me too! I was in Florida at the time it happened and the ground where we lived was very soft and it freaked me out. I do not live in Florida anymore.
We had half an apartment complex 4 buildings sunken into sink holes in Orlando FL about 10 years ago. They were in the process of finishing the buildings so nobody lived there yet but it's more insane that they actually finished and people now actually live in them
I love how everyone always talks about how they just stumble upon his videos and never turn back. That's how you know he makes incredible content.
Riyeeeeeet
He 100% reminds me, looks, humor, the whole 9, completely of my old buddy I grew up with and sadly moved away from, Derek Bernard... so much so Derek was also miltary...
It's the first time I've ever actually subbed and turned on notifications 😅
i accidentally found him and got hooked on the “top 3 places people weren’t supposed to go but did anyways” and binged every episode of it in a day haha
Yup, that's my story..
My goodness, these three stories are just so sad, so crazy that these kinds of things actually happen and the lives couldn’t even be helped out of a stressful situation. So many ways for a persons life to end. Geez, better pray everyday and count the blessing of life ! Never know when something bizarre will happen like they did to these folks. I may just have to watch this one again. Good job with the story telling Mr Ballen ! You’re very good! At your story.
Every night I go to bed and pray to god that I never end up on a MrBallen TH-cam video.
I definitely don't wanna be the like button...yikes...head for the hillsss....runnn 🤣😅😁😂
Yep I seriously need a therapist now...😳
LMAO! you’re not the only one🙏
Me when I first started listening: “the like button stuff is dumb”
Me now: “What’re we gonna do to the like button today?!”
Try to take over the world dressed like the like button so he get the blame. (Not sure why your comment made me think pinky and the brain
@@nicoleshrum3526 because of the “what’re we gonna do to the like button today?!” phrase which is reminiscent of Pinky’s (and I’m paraphrasing) “what are we doing today, Brain?” in the intro to every episode.
Story #1 just shows you’re not safe anywhere, when your times up it’s up. I can’t imagine relaxing in bed and the friggin ground opens up and swallows you 😳 WTF!!!
Yeah. So scary!
Just don't live in Florida. It does that there occasionally, particularly when unscrupulous developers don't do a proper geological survey of the ground before they build housing developments.
@@l0-r3z43 story #3 is not going to happen to everyone though
It'd be a shitty way to wake up...
Sink holes are not uncommon in Florida due to the type of soil and how it reacts to ground water
This has made such an impression. It's absolutely terrifying, it felt like I was there. It takes a very brave person to do these things. Very well told! R.I.P. to the fallen....
My grandfather was a chaplain in the navy stationed at Pearl Harbor during it’s bombing . He was also in the Korean War. He crossed over March 9th of 1999. He saved my life in 1997. I love him so much. So proud to call him grandpa
If it's not too personal can you elaborate on how I saved your life and I'd like to thank him for his service.
The best. He's the only person that makes scary soothing.
Tell that to the like button
Correct
😂 that’s awesome!
The Like button has been through so many tortuous situations that I doubt it’d care. It’s pretty resilient.
That last story is heart breaking!!! can you imagine being alive knowing you could be saved but can't be. Or even the marines that had to sit there and listen to it! Wow! Soooooo sad!!!
If there's one thing I've learned from these stories, it's that if there's a missing person, check the chimneys on vacant houses.
If there's two things, the other is don't go in underwater caves.
Thank you for bringing light to those Navy gentleman, what happened to them should never be forgotten nor should it remained hidden.
RIP Jeff my guy that’s a horrible way to go and the fact his body was never found sucks RIP fly high
RIP Josh being cramped for that long must hurt RIP and fly high
RIP Cliff,Ron and Buddy that sucks having to bang on a door for that long and nobody coming rlly suck RIP and fly high
❤
RIP I hope this never happens to you
Josh was murdered. More info came out about this story, alas I can't find the video, but a guy that Josh knew, was talking about wanting to kill him.
R.I.P
@Michael Klaren
That's a good one! Haven't heard it in quite some time.
RIP Jeff. Such a sad and very frustrating way to loose a brother like that.
It's lose not loose
@@Aulcis ehh was an error. I'll leave it like that just for you😙
@@stunt509 thank you uwu such a lovely present I love it
@@stunt509 th-cam.com/video/P8dfZ3N_c2E/w-d-xo.html
Happy early halloween 🎃 here is a spooky song
@@Aulcis lol noice
10:11 Looks like a Martin Backpacker Guitar. One of my favorite and most played guitars of all time! May you rest in peace Joshua, I wish your family love and support ❤️
The Florida sinkholes are no joke! I can't imagine loosing a family member that way.. The 2nd story is too suspicious, someone knows something and eventually the truth will come out..3rd so sad..being military they should have informed the family no matter how tragic or heinous the outcome.
They did what they thought was right probably didn't want to traumatize their families
@lana lake no not at all. Agreed
I grew up on Pearl Harbor and heard this story when I was young. I thought it was a ghost tale. Ive been to Pearl harbor Memorial so many times. And one time this old guy pointed out a few names and I found out it was all true. Heart breaking
The suffering those men endured is unimaginable. God bless their souls. I am grateful for their service and sacrifice.
Everyone let them down!
The sink hole story, just gut wrenching. No words.
The most distressing command any leader can give is one that involves the death of fellow servicemen in order to save a ship, or a unit involved in contact with the enemy. A lot of people will try to arm chair quarter back the situation and state what they would or would not do.
To be perfectly honest, no one in thier right mind can tell before hand what they would do in a situation where there was loss of lives and in order to save lives, a particular mission, or in the navy's case a ship they would let fellow service members die for the greatest good.
Great video there Mr. Ballin!
@Von Vomit ~ but they didn't let them die to preserve or save the ship.... it was because there was literally nothing that they could do.... they had no way to get them out.
@@Irish_Georgia_Girl Yes, that is true. But as I said, no one should arm chair quarterback such a situation. The men could have tried to go back and try to rescue those left inside the ship. That alone would have gotten men killed in a failed rescue attempt. So was it a good decision to not rescue the men? Yes it was. But those men who did get off that ship will probably never forget that.
It's so tragic the way they died. If they had the equipment and techniques we have today, they might have been saved. Sadly they didn't. I have to wonder if there was a way for them to scrub the air in the pump room as they are usually filled with all kinds of equipment. I know it can't help now, but I'm curious to know.
“Doesn’t look like a place people would go” that’s the perfect place for a body, seriously
Fr you'd think a smart search team would SEARCH everywhere possible
Yea that was soo stupid, if theres abandoned places near your house that would the first place to look for a missing person
@@elegurl400xo6 police in America are not smart. They're dumb former high school jocks looking for easy power trip. Only takes 6 weeks to become a cop.
I hurt for those last 3 guys. RIP. I hope that they found some sort of peace in those last few moments.
MrBallen why'd you have to make me cry 😫 At least they had each other in their last breaths, I bet they were not even scared, but brave and proud!
I love how he makes his stories unpredictable while telling them. Really makes it even more intriguing
He over talks to make videos longer and bullshits half the story for entertainment. Says things you couldn’t possibly know if you weren’t there🤷♂️
@@JakeNHale it's called story telling goofy. The whole point of his videos
@@angelberr9169 and he claims that there all TRUE in his description
@@JakeNHale yeah so what?
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My grandpa cliff survived pearl harbor. I don't remember him ever laughing or smiling. I can't imagine what all he seen. He was assigned to remove the dead bodies
Seeing death like that can change a person.
Everyone's parents I knew who were vets that saw action, were miserable old men.
My grandfather also survived Pearl Harbor, by living in Scotland during the war. That's also how I survived 9/11.
Enough trauma to last a lifetime, and probably did. God bless him.
@@AnyoneCanSee Scotland is a slave state owned by the crowne.
You sir are a serf. Your grandaddy was a serf.
I live on a boat and OMG, these stories are the absolute literal stuff of nightmares for me. Every liveaboard has nightmares about their boat filling with water! I'm in Seattle and have been out in Puget Sound with waves that have tilted my 36ft 1954 Chris Craft to almost capsizing - almost. She's a tough old girl. It is terrifying, though. Humans are not even remotely in charge on the sea.
Creepy
Man, those old Chris Craft are a work of art on the water.
Definitely one of my favorite vessels on the sea.
Yo that is cool
@@rainmanj9978 Same here, until I was actually in / on the water! The wind in the Pacific NW is no joke.
Why do you live in a boat?
Josh maddox story is always so heartbreaking no matter how many times i hear it i cry everytime 😢 and because he looks lkke my son it hurts more. His poor family may he alwahs rip ❤
In reading more about Josh's story, one suspect, Andrew, has the M.O. of some of the missing cases where belongings are "folded up and neatly placed" in various locations. He is supposed to be in a mental institution but it sounds like he might be out. Very strange... Pearl Harbor's story is tragic beyond belief.
That is by far one of the hardest things you could ever have to do - sit by waiting for someone to die knowing you are helpless to help them - all the while wishing there was something you could do. It is an event you will NEVER forget.
Just imagine Jeff, still alive, but to weak to do anything, knowing that he was going to die soon.
Watch Bella Fiori for the full case, it wasn't solved but based on some information....I think he was murdered somehow and by the guy he went to visit who was jealous of him
What an absolute heartbreaking last story… I still think they should have tried to save them :( They knew their comrades were listening I bet
I love to see you grow man! Keep it up you're almost at a million!
Yes
"I love to see you grow man..." Thats what she said.
Have y’all noticed the most compelling places to search for someone such as a cabin when people are missing is always overlooked? Buildings in the immediate area would be the first place I would look...
Yeah but in the chimney? Actually a few people have disappeared and been found in the chimney way later. One guy years. The reason why is they suffocate. By the time people are searching. Yet they have not started to smell yet. It's always abandoned places.
@@sweetcheeks89 what
@@sweetcheeks89 what did you just call me?
Yeah especially places that look or are known to be abandoned. If the culprit knows the building is never used by anyone, it seems like a fitting place to cover up a murder. And if it's abandoned, then the police don't even have to confront the people living there at the time, although of course would presumably still need a warrant in this case seeing as the cabin had an owner.
I doubt Joshua was murkt. Going by what Blair said in that people usually suffocate in these cases, and given his age, I theorize that this was indeed an accident. This was a cabin that he frequented when after he finished exploring it, he would continue exploring in it his sexuality. A huge part of the reason he would go out on walks alone in the forest is due to the lack of privacy existing at his home. The breakfast bar wasn't torn off intentionally, it was used initially as a bench where he could comfortably sit at and sometimes, maybe, to masturbate. Since breakfast bars are not designed to support the weight of a person sitting upon it, one day it finally gave out. Now without a seat to sit at it was time to explore other options at how he was supposed to comfortably jerk off, and it would eventually lead him to the fireplace. Usually the most eye catching feature when peering through cabin windows are typically fireplaces; when Joshua would beat his meat atop the breakfast bar, it was across from the fireplace and away from immediate visibile exposure that the windows could bring. He would then use the broken off breakfast bar as a cover to seal himself off from sight in the case that somebody might look in through the window. Since it was not mentioned that there was any real effort to hide his body (like the breakfast board was not bolted to the fireplace or anything) and the fact that because his underwear and pantaloons were found neatly folded beside the fireplace is an indication that this was all his own doing, even wedging himself with his bottom side turned up the chute.
Reasons why: while he could turn his shirt inside out and sneak it past his family without raising suspicion, he could not just turn his pants inside out and get it by unnoticed upon his return and so removing his pants and drawers seemed necessary because if he left them on and/or brought it inside the fireplace he would have got them noticeably dirty with fireplace grime and soot and that would raise inquiry back at home with his family. In tandem with using the breakfast bar as a makeshift seal to hide himself from exposure from anyone who might look in through the window, the reason why Joshua wedged himself upside down up the chimney, aside from the possibility that he thought he might experience a unique form of sexual gratification, this positioning could have also given him the advantage of being able to peek out through a crack between the frame of the fireplace and the breakfast bar which he could then use whatever visual information he might receive to judge whether he could proceed or he should keep still and be quiet. Ultimately, he did keep very quiet and became stiffly still because what he most likely saw, regardless which direction he faced, was the light at the end of a dark tunnel.
I was so shocked to hear you mention Seffner. I'm from there and I vividly remember that sink hole. It was actually only about 2 miles from my grandma's house. I even have friends that live in the next town over and they can't get sink hole insurance because they're "too close to Seffner".
I've never heard of sink hole insurance. That's crazy. You'd think it'd just fall under house insurance or I guess it's somenhing that can either be or not be included in house insurance. Interesting.
Whoa the sink hole story was crazy!!