You’re not likely going to get an uncertified mechanic making $18/hr doing the work in a reputable Toyota Dealership. That’s why they charge $200 + dollars/hr labour. If I found out an uncertified mechanic worked on my car, I would probably lose my sh*t.
But again here in BC I know that dealerships are struggling to find good techs. Even our dealership has gone through a couple of techs that don't make it through the 3 month probation. We had one guy that didn't make it a week.
@@GG-cl4oo I also work at a BC dealer. The struggle for good techs is a reality here. Not that the techs are uncertified, your just not likely to get a master tech doing a valve cover gasket.
@@GG-cl4oo Warranty works does not pay good which is why they are giving to apprentices. Charging you $200/hour does not mean they won't pay the tech 18-20/hr.
I think your time is valuable, so you should take it into warranty repair and then do a visual check / inspection when you get it back to see how they did.
If it is under warranty have the dealer do it. If you do it they will screw you on any other engine issue claiming you caused it while repairing your oil leak.
When I bought my 2019 tundra with 47,000 miles on it I immediately checked it out at home, it had almost one quart to much oil and the oil filter housing was installed so tight I had to use an impact to remove it. I do all of my own maintenance I have a 4Runner with 345,300 miles doesn’t leak a drop of anything and never has.
Warranty! Protect yourself legally, even if you were a Toyota service tech. What if the head is actually warped and the gasket is fine? Any future warranty work will be void also once they realize you opened the motor yourself.
I purchased extended factory warranty on top of factory warranty for 100K with extra 425.00 when the car was new, when I first claim it at 118 miles during the snow storm for wiper failure, it was denial for act of God! I filed another claims 6 months later for power surge that destroy all light bulbs, it also was denial for act of God. Third claims for oil leak from cylinder heads when the car has 70K Zstill under 100K) cost me $900.00 it was denial due to lacks of dealer maintenance record per owner manual! The car have to park for months at the dealer and waiting for adjuster to fry from Russia for evaluation.
At 28k miles the water pump sprayed some coolant out on my 2019 Toyota C-HR. I do 3k mile oil changes on it and inspect everything at those times. I smelled coolant a couple times before my oil change and checked things out, but didnt find anything, a few hundred miles later I did my oil change and found a crusty pink spray pattern coming from the water pump. I took it in to have it warrantied and they sounded like they didnt want to do it because something like that was "normal". I was ready to raise hell, but didnt show it, and when they came back to give me the final say on it they told me some reps were in town and said to do it as a "good will repair". After the job was done I got the car home and inspected the work, everything looked ok, the work didnt look too sloppy. I could see every bolt they touched, but it was done and working. Everything was clean, they washed the coolant off of things and dried it off, so they did a decent job. I usually dont like anyone else touching my vehicle either, but if you have the warranty then use the warranty as long as you can. They built it, you bought it, they warranty it, now make them honor it. Thats how I look at it anyway.
@joeyh7796 A coolant leak from a water pump shouldn't happen at 28k by any vehicle. Regardless if it's a Toyota or Porsche. Toyota certainly didn't earn its reliability reputation by having water pumps leak at 28k.
Working at Honda we get new cars with barley 1k km coming back with issues. So far I've had to replace PCM, injectors, power control unit on the hybrid for not charging the 12v battery and the new one leaked coolant from the press on fitting on the new one, shudder grills, throttle body on the hybrid, today we a CRV hybrid with a noisy differential new civic Hybrid PDI with no refrigerant in it so the a/c wasn't working. List goes on. There is a joke going around at work where we find something we just go yup they don't make it past the 1k kms without having to fix something 🤣
Took my brand new 2023 Lexus GX 460 in for Lexus free 10k maintenance. I got about 7,200 miles and already did two oil changes myself. One break-in at 850 miles and second @ 3200 miles. The mechanic not only overfilled about a quart of oil but did not install the undercover skid plate 12 MM bolt. Took it back to the dealer to fix and they blame it on me saying it broke off or loose! They put back a smaller bolt. I went on Lexus website and order the right size bolt for $1.45 plus $5 shipping. I am pissed they did a crappy job. My fears of bringing it to the dealer is the tech sloppy work or rushing it through. This is not the first time where they don’t put back bolts, clips or completely not servicing to specs. Also while in for service the service supervisor took my GX out for a ride and put on 32 miles! It can’t be a test drive. I was able to track the car through Lexus app.The GX needs 8.2 qts of oil not 9. I do all my cars maintenance. So my recommendation is if you can do a better job, just buy the OEM parts and do it yourself! For me I took advantage of Lexus complimentary FREE maintenance but regretted since.
Exactly! I do my own maintenance on my 2024 4Runner even though the dealer offered free oil changes. I don’t trust them. I did the same thing, first oil change at 800 mile. Just document it.
The free oil change brings you in so you can do other stuff. I had a manager that offer customers that only bring their car in to get their repairs done at our dealership but they paid for the free maintenance at another dealership when they bought their car. So my manager offered to give them free oil change at our dealership while they can get their warranty repairs done and also other maintenance done with us instead.
I bought 2 new 2022 4Runners. Didn't use any of their maintenance. Before they arrived, I had already stocked up on rotors, pads, oil, all filters, washers etc etc.
I buy a case of 10 OEM oil filters. Runs me about 50 bucks a case. I put down a deposit for a 2024 but they didn't produce many 5th gen. Now I'm in search of another 5th gen.
Snug up that bolt by the leak first. Then spray off the oil with carb or brake cleaner. If the leak continues, fix it yourself. Don't let a dealer touch your car unless it's something big, and they will repair it free. Never trust a dealership.
There is the risk of something going wrong doing it at home yourself, not a big risk, but a risk no less. Clips from something you take off getting to the valve cover can break, wires get pulled out of fittings etc Then you have the cost of parts which is not much for a gasket, but again depending on what has to be removed to get to it, many times they need new gaskets as well, like throttle body etc. Let the dealer deal with it I say
Piddly stuff. My brand new 2003 Tacoma was MISSING the driver's side engine motor mount bolts from the factory. It was built in Northern California. Toyota actually asked me why I removed the bolts and refused to repair it! Great vehicle but made in America sucks.
@@offgridmangogrower actually nothing felt wrong. The extended warranty "free" oil changes had just expired so I started doing my own. (Side note: never get the extended warranty) I dropped both factory skid pans and saw that the two motor mount bolts were missing! I could tell they were never installed because there were no scratch marks on the motor mount or the frame rail.
@@offgridmangogrower On a traditional V8 American engine, I think it would depend on which one was broken, as your engine would rise some under acceleration in drive and would drop down in reverse ( I think I have it the right way )
Wow! A new 5th Gen 4Runner with an oil leak. Thats just crazy. I have a 16 4Runner with 175K with absolutley no issues. These are built in the Tahara Japan plant so superior quality; all the others in these comments are built in America. There is a difference. Get it fixed under warranty.
I agree with other comments that RTV was probably not used in that corner at the factory. I would bite the bullet and let Toyota fix it and pray that they do it right
First thing I'd do is see if the bolts just need to be nipped down, but if they're all tight, and you value the warranty, let them fix it. Don't broadcast all over the world you touched it, or Toyota might just cancel your account for tampering for clicks.
I've been keeping an eye on the timing cover for leaks because they are prone to leaking every time I'm underneath changing the oil. It's been about 3k kms since I've changed my oil and this just so happen to come up.
A vehicle is NEVER too new to monitor fluid issues on and this is a perfect example of why. I suppose you could double check the valve cover bolt torque first. It's totally possible 1 or 2 bolts are loose. Now you got me wanting to double check MY '23 4Runner!
We get Hondas with leaks all the time on the first service. Timing chain tensioner covers, timing cover leaks, even the new pilot with the valve cover is now also the cam caps and is silicones sealed.
I agree with most other reasonable people here if it’s under warranty, take it to the dealer. But do this. Research the dealers you don’t have to go to the dealer you bought that vehicle from go to the one that has the best service record and the highest rated that you can find. And lastly, build a relationship with the service coordinator. Find the one that’s the most trustworthy. It always ask for that person when you make an appointment.
It's like being at Hyundai all over again. We get cars with barley 1k kms either for injectors, throttle body, shudder grill, even a/c leaks. I had a pcu on a hybrid not charge the 12v battery anymore and it was a $10k part for a car with 800kms
My father brand new 1976 Chevrolet Impala was missing an oil plug for rear differential and the gear oil came out. We paid $400.00 dealer prep at the delivery on top of the care price back then was a lots of money. The car is missing hub cap and promised a full hub cap (cost $40.00 each) after delivery. This promise never full filled until today!
I would do it myself if you have the time and are capable of doing it.If you knew of a solid reliable dealership that you could trust then sure.The sad reality now a days is that it is rare to find honest dealerships.
There's a reason dealer techs are disgruntled. Your 4Runner is one of the best vehicles made on the planet, it could be worse and you own a Forn,Chebby or a Dodge. It's probably only 1 of 20 from the line that was assembled with a faulty gasket. It's such a simple task on that vehicle that you know what to do. I have an 18 V6 GS with a low pressure fuel pump recall and there's no way I'm letting a dealer touch it. I'm fortunate to have The Car Care Nut close to me to service both of my Lexus's.
Did a free oil change too with Toyota dealership, overfilled oil , not sure if they changed the filter… rather do it myself. I know I put in the correct weight oil, change the filter and the right amt of oil. Won’t over tighten the filter or drain plug too.
That’s a shame for a newer vehicle having that issue. You have the skill to fix it yourself, so I would lean on you fixing it yourself. Myself, I don’t have that skill, so I’d be forced to take it to a dealership for the warranty work. I have trust issues that the dealership wouldn’t fix it right. Best wishes on whatever you decide.
Repair it under the factory warranty, the warranty is the reason I bought a new truck versus a used 3 year old truck with no warranty! After the warranty expires maintain it yourself, that's what I do.
I'd do it myself when possible, but I'd also report it to something like we have here in the US, NHTSA, as it may not just affect you, it could be a possible recall for VIN range in the future, the more reports they get, the more of an impetus for them to investigate and for Toyota to be aware of it.
I think I would go for the dealership to do it under warranty. Mainly because if something else happens down the road , they can’t deny anything that’s under warranty and expensive.
do it yourself! My fj has the new 1GR-FE and i dont see a lot of good tutorials out there on valve cover jobs. I took mine to the dealership recently because of lack of tutorials
th-cam.com/video/bnRtU41DNc4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9EtrlUSeUoCbykTL This was back in the day where I would go over to my friends shop and help him out after work. High mileage FJ was burning some coolant.
changing oil is even more simple and they still seem to f it up..... The problem is that it is hard to find someone who give a crap about the work they put out.
I have a 2000 Lexus GS400 with 215K miles on the legendary 1UZ and the next time I see an oil leak will be the first time I see an oil leak...Its sad we have lost the times of over-engineered vehicles...
Like some others have said, let the dealership do this under warranty. If you do it yourself and then you have more serious engine issues later on, Toyota could deny warranty coverage because you "opened up the engine" yourself. Be sure to do a video AFTER the repair though, showing us how well they did. Could be fun to shame them for doing a shabby job 😉
Well, what do you know, lol. Bought a 2023 Tacoma TRD Sport new, 15 miles on it. After 1500 miles, oil leaked from the timing chain cover. Ah, nothing beats that feeling of buying a new car to be problem-free. Sold the truck and bought a bicycle instead. 😂
This bums me out man. You get probably the most reliable new truck sold, you do awesome maintenance on it and it still leaks at 15k. Awesome that you have the skills to fix it yourself if you feel like it and the video would be cool. Still annoying that it happened though.
I’ve owned 2 4Runners my current being a 2020 with 44k miles. I beat the piss out of as my daily and it runs perfect no issues at all, fortunately my dealer is really good servicing mine and are pretty trustworthy. Either way if you got the time and knowledge to do it I say just do it yourself that way you know it’s done right. Warranty depends on how much you trust your dealer.
I’d fix it myself. The dealer will cost you way more headaches and find/start other issues. Service departments at dealerships are more shady than sales departments.
MY 2021 TACO WITH JUST 7 MILES HAD A HEATER HOSE CLAMP LOOSE! WELL DONE TOYOTA. IT CAME WITH 2 FREE SERVICES AND I PASSED IT! NO WAY I'M LETTING THEM TOUCHING IT.
That could have been easily caught if the person actually did the pre delivery inspection before it had gotten sold. Unless they just don't actually do the inspection and the tech got paid for it and just checked everything on the list
if its under warranty and you touch it, everthing else going wrong will be your fault. Don't touch it until the warranty is up. Then, get a shop manual or start looking at vids
We have a 2005 Honda Pilot with 271K on it. 5K conventional bulk oil changes and trans and diff at 30K. No measurable oil use in 5K changes. I have a good Honda independent garage owned by a former 10 yr dealer Honda tech. I have a 2023 Honda Passport which I love but I doubt it'll do as well.
I think if you do it yourself it will void all warranty on it . Just don’t tell no one you did it . But remember the dealer will know if you install aftermarket parts . Use OEM parts . Me personally I will use the Warranty till it’s gone. Then I do my own mechanic on it . But that just me . Good luck .
Very odd to see oil seepage that early. Either way I highly recommend if you are not running 5w-30 oil now to switch. I run 5w-30 along with all my family members with newer model Toyota's. The 0w-20 weight EPA forced oil is garbage.
I'd guess that the dealer will crank down on the valve cover bolts before replacing the gasket. If that's their solution, then your decision is pretty easy; do it yourself. However, if it's not the gasket that's leaking, and instead it's casting porosity, then warranty work will be the only way that Toyota will touch it after the gasket change.
Dealer. Warranty. Its your daily driver, and without a car you don't have an income for your day to day job. Hopefully the dealer doesn't screw up the install like the factory. Can't remember if that corner has sealant by default, but I know some shops add it as prophylaxis.
valve cover leak? some sort of top end leak. looks like an easy fix, would take about as much time and effort to fix it as it did to make this video if it didn't have the high pressure fuel pump in the way. as somebody said "just try tightening the bolt" ... you could check to see if that bolt was torqued to spec (could probably feel if it was loose even without a torque wrench) thanks for breaking it in for us used car buyers who know these things run just as good when they are 10 years old and half off msrp
Looks to be either the rocker cover gasket or the cam cradle, looks more like the cam cradle since its a bit lower. Either way, if you touch it, it wont be covered under warranty as thats a manufacturing defect.
If it's still under warranty you should bring it to the dealer, otherwise, they will try to get an excuse and say you messed up with it. They will not fix it.
I would go warranty, if you do it yourself and there is a problem with more than the gasket we all know the dealer will say warranty voided with you attempting to do a repair.
I would get it done under warranty. You don’t want to give Toyota any reason to decline coverage for a major issue down road because you worked on it. And if you do a video, they will have proof.
That’s the cam towers not valve cover, I’ll knock it out for you , timing cover has to come off good luck I’ll watch your video if you do, check out my timelaps of cam towers on that 4Runner I made a good video on the 4Runner with the engine out of vehicle
I understand and feel the same way of working on your own car, but your car is way too new not to warrant it. Take it back to the dealership and let them do it. No need to make a video on it, there’s plenty of videos out there for it. Sometimes they might find other things about it in the process and let them diagnose and repair it.
I'd utilize the warranty so that they don't have a reason to deny future claims. I'm a bit of a 4Runner fanboy, so this video bummed me out. Keep us posted!
Yea same here. Just a bump in the road still love the truck though. I put a deposit for a 2024 pro in underground but they didn't produce very many and refunded my deposit as we are already heading into 2025.
Anything you do to a car fairly new still under factory warranty will result on denial of waranty and calling you responsible of damages , take it to the dealer.
If you fix it yourself, you might void your warranty for other issues. Make them fix it under warranty. This is surprising to me, it being a Toyota. I have a '21 4Runner.
It seems that just about every business and every industry is on the same MO , ie they are getting rid of their skilled , highest paid employees and replacing them with high school kids and other unskilled help and paying them minimum wages. And the result is high attrition for them and bad and unreliable help for the customers. So, to answer your question, you are taking your chances when you take your car anywhere for repair but your car is under warranty and perhaps it's worth taking a chance. If it were out of warranty, I would not take it to them.
warranty would be a good idea but there is the waiting period versus doing it yourself knowing that it will be done right and in a timely manner...just saying
I know you want to do it yourself, but for the money involved on a warranty car take it in for records. If they mess it up you know what they did and get that $.
My old 2022 corolla started leaking oil after less than 100 miles. But thats because the transmission exploded and took the engine out with it. Best thing ive ever done was get rid of that toyota. Ill never buy another one.
I had a brand new CRV with a pin hole leak from the torque converter. I guess when they manufactured it they didn't completely weld the seam. Here's the video. th-cam.com/users/shortsTKqTCdUh74w?feature=share
I wouldn't touch it. Not too long ago Toyota was looking for any excuse to deny warranty. When the news of how bad Toyota products are today started getting out, they backed off some. They tried to deny warranty on things as simple as driving over 85 MPH with a GR owner. Toyota come up with every excuse under the sun for why my 2020 Camry was such a piece of junk. It was easier to dump the car to a dealer. I felt guilty considering selling it to a private party so I took the loss and dumped it on a dealer and bought a buddies 10 year old Ford to replace it.
They moved production to Mexico and wondered why their quality control is bad. My 2019 honda Ridgeline has engine recall because of rod bearing failures. I know my engine is failing because an oil change filter was full of big metal particles. Two companies known for their quality and today junk. Rod bearing is one of the cheapest parts of the engine and uses cheap materials.
The reason I do my own work is exactly as you said “that way I know it is done right”.
For real, but it's kind of annoying when you have other stuff to do.
Yea working 5 days a week and still helping friends and family cars on the weekend and having to do groceries for the week. Can be a hand full
Don't ever put yourself on the back burner for others bud. It won't end up well for yourself
@@aaron___6014is the new norm, you pay the mechanic,the accountant, the doctor,etc but you have to double check if they do their jobs right 😂
Can't trust anyone,took a brand spanking new 4runner to get tinted and sure enough there was a scratch/scuff on my rear bumper.
take it to the dealer. its under warranty.
Warranty. That’s what it’s there for.
You don't want a 20 year old kid that's being paid $18 a hour to be working on your car!
You’re not likely going to get an uncertified mechanic making $18/hr doing the work in a reputable Toyota Dealership. That’s why they charge $200 + dollars/hr labour. If I found out an uncertified mechanic worked on my car, I would probably lose my sh*t.
But again here in BC I know that dealerships are struggling to find good techs. Even our dealership has gone through a couple of techs that don't make it through the 3 month probation. We had one guy that didn't make it a week.
@@GG-cl4oo I also work at a BC dealer. The struggle for good techs is a reality here. Not that the techs are uncertified, your just not likely to get a master tech doing a valve cover gasket.
Oh hell no not a Japan Built Toyota WTF 😮😮
@@GG-cl4oo Warranty works does not pay good which is why they are giving to apprentices.
Charging you $200/hour does not mean they won't pay the tech 18-20/hr.
I think your time is valuable, so you should take it into warranty repair and then do a visual check / inspection when you get it back to see how they did.
A 4Runner with low mills having an oil leak! WOW, this is unheard of
If it is under warranty have the dealer do it. If you do it they will screw you on any other engine issue claiming you caused it while repairing your oil leak.
Exactly
When I bought my 2019 tundra with 47,000 miles on it I immediately checked it out at home, it had almost one quart to much oil and the oil filter housing was installed so tight I had to use an impact to remove it. I do all of my own maintenance I have a 4Runner with 345,300 miles doesn’t leak a drop of anything and never has.
Warranty! Protect yourself legally, even if you were a Toyota service tech. What if the head is actually warped and the gasket is fine? Any future warranty work will be void also once they realize you opened the motor yourself.
I purchased extended factory warranty on top of factory warranty for 100K with extra 425.00 when the car was new, when I first claim it at 118 miles during the snow storm for wiper failure, it was denial for act of God! I filed another claims 6 months later for power surge that destroy all light bulbs, it also was denial for act of God. Third claims for oil leak from cylinder heads when the car has 70K Zstill under 100K) cost me $900.00 it was denial due to lacks of dealer maintenance record per owner manual! The car have to park for months at the dealer and waiting for adjuster to fry from Russia for evaluation.
@@johnmadow5331 ummm get rid of that dog!!
At 28k miles the water pump sprayed some coolant out on my 2019 Toyota C-HR. I do 3k mile oil changes on it and inspect everything at those times. I smelled coolant a couple times before my oil change and checked things out, but didnt find anything, a few hundred miles later I did my oil change and found a crusty pink spray pattern coming from the water pump. I took it in to have it warrantied and they sounded like they didnt want to do it because something like that was "normal". I was ready to raise hell, but didnt show it, and when they came back to give me the final say on it they told me some reps were in town and said to do it as a "good will repair".
After the job was done I got the car home and inspected the work, everything looked ok, the work didnt look too sloppy. I could see every bolt they touched, but it was done and working. Everything was clean, they washed the coolant off of things and dried it off, so they did a decent job. I usually dont like anyone else touching my vehicle either, but if you have the warranty then use the warranty as long as you can. They built it, you bought it, they warranty it, now make them honor it. Thats how I look at it anyway.
you drive a c-hr, a disposable vehicle. you act like it’s a Carrera gt
Bro stop it
Its the vehicle he could afford and he loves it@@joeyh7796
@joeyh7796 A coolant leak from a water pump shouldn't happen at 28k by any vehicle. Regardless if it's a Toyota or Porsche. Toyota certainly didn't earn its reliability reputation by having water pumps leak at 28k.
Working at Honda we get new cars with barley 1k km coming back with issues. So far I've had to replace PCM, injectors, power control unit on the hybrid for not charging the 12v battery and the new one leaked coolant from the press on fitting on the new one, shudder grills, throttle body on the hybrid, today we a CRV hybrid with a noisy differential new civic Hybrid PDI with no refrigerant in it so the a/c wasn't working. List goes on. There is a joke going around at work where we find something we just go yup they don't make it past the 1k kms without having to fix something 🤣
Took my brand new 2023 Lexus GX 460 in for Lexus free 10k maintenance. I got about 7,200 miles and already did two oil changes myself. One break-in at 850 miles and second @ 3200 miles. The mechanic not only overfilled about a quart of oil but did not install the undercover skid plate 12 MM bolt. Took it back to the dealer to fix and they blame it on me saying it broke off or loose! They put back a smaller bolt. I went on Lexus website and order the right size bolt for $1.45 plus $5 shipping. I am pissed they did a crappy job. My fears of bringing it to the dealer is the tech sloppy work or rushing it through. This is not the first time where they don’t put back bolts, clips or completely not servicing to specs. Also while in for service the service supervisor took my GX out for a ride and put on 32 miles! It can’t be a test drive. I was able to track the car through Lexus app.The GX needs 8.2 qts of oil not 9. I do all my cars maintenance. So my recommendation is if you can do a better job, just buy the OEM parts and do it yourself! For me I took advantage of Lexus complimentary FREE maintenance but regretted since.
Exactly! I do my own maintenance on my 2024 4Runner even though the dealer offered free oil changes. I don’t trust them. I did the same thing, first oil change at 800 mile. Just document it.
The free oil change brings you in so you can do other stuff. I had a manager that offer customers that only bring their car in to get their repairs done at our dealership but they paid for the free maintenance at another dealership when they bought their car. So my manager offered to give them free oil change at our dealership while they can get their warranty repairs done and also other maintenance done with us instead.
I bought 2 new 2022 4Runners. Didn't use any of their maintenance.
Before they arrived, I had already stocked up on rotors, pads, oil, all filters, washers etc etc.
I buy a case of 10 OEM oil filters. Runs me about 50 bucks a case. I put down a deposit for a 2024 but they didn't produce many 5th gen. Now I'm in search of another 5th gen.
Snug up that bolt by the leak first. Then spray off the oil with carb or brake cleaner. If the leak continues, fix it yourself. Don't let a dealer touch your car unless it's something big, and they will repair it free. Never trust a dealership.
100%
There is the risk of something going wrong doing it at home yourself, not a big risk, but a risk no less. Clips from something you take off getting to the valve cover can break, wires get pulled out of fittings etc Then you have the cost of parts which is not much for a gasket, but again depending on what has to be removed to get to it, many times they need new gaskets as well, like throttle body etc. Let the dealer deal with it I say
I would probably spend a day at work on my day off to do it. Monday's is for guys who want to do extra work or to work on our cars on our day off.
Piddly stuff.
My brand new 2003 Tacoma was MISSING the driver's side engine motor mount bolts from the factory. It was built in Northern California. Toyota actually asked me why I removed the bolts and refused to repair it! Great vehicle but made in America sucks.
That’s really interesting….my engine mounts might be cracked….what did it feel like when acellerating and braking to tip you off?
@@offgridmangogrower actually nothing felt wrong. The extended warranty "free" oil changes had just expired so I started doing my own. (Side note: never get the extended warranty) I dropped both factory skid pans and saw that the two motor mount bolts were missing! I could tell they were never installed because there were no scratch marks on the motor mount or the frame rail.
@@offgridmangogrower On a traditional V8 American engine, I think it would depend on which one was broken, as your engine would rise some under acceleration in drive and would drop down in reverse ( I think I have it the right way )
if it lasted from 2003 then don't install them lmaooooo. made in America doesn't suck the tundra last gen is American made.
Wow! A new 5th Gen 4Runner with an oil leak. Thats just crazy. I have a 16 4Runner with 175K with absolutley no issues. These are built in the Tahara Japan plant so superior quality; all the others in these comments are built in America. There is a difference. Get it fixed under warranty.
The door sticker says it's made in japan probably something to do with these vehicles made during and after COVID. Yours being a 2016 before COVID.
no, they are made in japan at the same factory, even the new '25 redesigned trash ones are made in japan
It a 2023 Toyota 4Runner with 25,000km, it doesn't leak oil. It just a slight oil seepage, brake clean it and let it go man.
I agree with other comments that RTV was probably not used in that corner at the factory. I would bite the bullet and let Toyota fix it and pray that they do it right
Why pray it is done right.....just do it yourself so you know it is done right.
Good old bullet proof Toyota V6. Even the Japan built ones aren’t any better. Those days ended 20yrs ago.
First thing I'd do is see if the bolts just need to be nipped down, but if they're all tight, and you value the warranty, let them fix it. Don't broadcast all over the world you touched it, or Toyota might just cancel your account for tampering for clicks.
Tighten the Bolt, clean the mess. Se If the oil leak returns.
Mine Toyota Corolla valve cover gasket was replaced 3 times in 9 months by ASE certified mechanic that cost $125.00 each time plus OEM parts.
WOW good to know info, use your warranty its free-we purchased a 2024 4runner pro and we will keep our eyes open for this problem.
I've been keeping an eye on the timing cover for leaks because they are prone to leaking every time I'm underneath changing the oil. It's been about 3k kms since I've changed my oil and this just so happen to come up.
A vehicle is NEVER too new to monitor fluid issues on and this is a perfect example of why.
I suppose you could double check the valve cover bolt torque first. It's totally possible 1 or 2 bolts are loose.
Now you got me wanting to double check MY '23 4Runner!
We get Hondas with leaks all the time on the first service. Timing chain tensioner covers, timing cover leaks, even the new pilot with the valve cover is now also the cam caps and is silicones sealed.
"superb toyota quality" toyota, setting low standards and failing to meet them!
I would check bolt torque at that location first. I think it would be wise to do it yourself.
I agree with most other reasonable people here if it’s under warranty, take it to the dealer. But do this. Research the dealers you don’t have to go to the dealer you bought that vehicle from go to the one that has the best service record and the highest rated that you can find. And lastly, build a relationship with the service coordinator. Find the one that’s the most trustworthy. It always ask for that person when you make an appointment.
Personally warranty it because it ties their hands if anything goes wrong later
The new 2025 6th generation 4Runner is flawless. It has a 4 cylinder engine that will run forever... and it gets much better gas mileage.
Lol. I'm waiting for the 2-cylinder 7th Gen.
Still pretty early to tell. Unless they figured it all out from releasing the 4th gen Tacoma and probably why they delayed the 4runner.
And everyone says new cars don’t have problems. New cars today are filled with problems.
It's like being at Hyundai all over again. We get cars with barley 1k kms either for injectors, throttle body, shudder grill, even a/c leaks. I had a pcu on a hybrid not charge the 12v battery anymore and it was a $10k part for a car with 800kms
My father brand new 1976 Chevrolet Impala was missing an oil plug for rear differential and the gear oil came out. We paid $400.00 dealer prep at the delivery on top of the care price back then was a lots of money. The car is missing hub cap and promised a full hub cap (cost $40.00 each) after delivery. This promise never full filled until today!
I would do it myself if you have the time and are capable of doing it.If you knew of a solid reliable dealership that you could trust then sure.The sad reality now a days is that it is rare to find honest dealerships.
There's a reason dealer techs are disgruntled. Your 4Runner is one of the best vehicles made on the planet, it could be worse and you own a Forn,Chebby or a Dodge. It's probably only 1 of 20 from the line that was assembled with a faulty gasket. It's such a simple task on that vehicle that you know what to do. I have an 18 V6 GS with a low pressure fuel pump recall and there's no way I'm letting a dealer touch it. I'm fortunate to have The Car Care Nut close to me to service both of my Lexus's.
You are so lucky to be in the vicinity of CCN!
Did a free oil change too with Toyota dealership, overfilled oil , not sure if they changed the filter… rather do it myself. I know I put in the correct weight oil, change the filter and the right amt of oil. Won’t over tighten the filter or drain plug too.
That’s a shame for a newer vehicle having that issue.
You have the skill to fix it yourself, so I would lean on you fixing it yourself.
Myself, I don’t have that skill, so I’d be forced to take it to a dealership for the warranty work.
I have trust issues that the dealership wouldn’t fix it right.
Best wishes on whatever you decide.
Repair it under the factory warranty, the warranty is the reason I bought a new truck versus a used 3 year old truck with no warranty! After the warranty expires maintain it yourself, that's what I do.
So much for these previous generation powertrains being better.
They are.
I disagree. The new turbo 4 is better.
@@TDS4547 The V6 has had a history of oil leaks and head gasket issues. I4s generally don’t have these issues.
I'd do it myself when possible, but I'd also report it to something like we have here in the US, NHTSA, as it may not just affect you, it could be a possible recall for VIN range in the future, the more reports they get, the more of an impetus for them to investigate and for Toyota to be aware of it.
I'll can take it in and see what they say. If they tell me it's just sweating and pound sand then I'll do it myself.
@@theoffroadingmechanic An oil leak you can smell is a leak can cause a fire, so NHTSA should be made aware .
Wait towards the end of warranty, combining all future issues into one run👌
I think I would go for the dealership to do it under warranty. Mainly because if something else happens down the road , they can’t deny anything that’s under warranty and expensive.
Let the warranty take care of it.
do it yourself! My fj has the new 1GR-FE and i dont see a lot of good tutorials out there on valve cover jobs. I took mine to the dealership recently because of lack of tutorials
th-cam.com/video/bnRtU41DNc4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9EtrlUSeUoCbykTL
This was back in the day where I would go over to my friends shop and help him out after work. High mileage FJ was burning some coolant.
Thats annoying. Warranty it. You're too busy with life. I understand the trust issues but this is a simple fix.
Ill make an appointment after the new year see what they are going to do.
changing oil is even more simple and they still seem to f it up..... The problem is that it is hard to find someone who give a crap about the work they put out.
I have a 2000 Lexus GS400 with 215K miles on the legendary 1UZ and the next time I see an oil leak will be the first time I see an oil leak...Its sad we have lost the times of over-engineered vehicles...
Like some others have said, let the dealership do this under warranty. If you do it yourself and then you have more serious engine issues later on, Toyota could deny warranty coverage because you "opened up the engine" yourself.
Be sure to do a video AFTER the repair though, showing us how well they did. Could be fun to shame them for doing a shabby job 😉
I'll do that and document the process.
Well, what do you know, lol. Bought a 2023 Tacoma TRD Sport new, 15 miles on it. After 1500 miles, oil leaked from the timing chain cover. Ah, nothing beats that feeling of buying a new car to be problem-free. Sold the truck and bought a bicycle instead. 😂
This bums me out man. You get probably the most reliable new truck sold, you do awesome maintenance on it and it still leaks at 15k. Awesome that you have the skills to fix it yourself if you feel like it and the video would be cool. Still annoying that it happened though.
If it's under warranty go with dealership. Take advantage of free work.
I’ve owned 2 4Runners my current being a 2020 with 44k miles. I beat the piss out of as my daily and it runs perfect no issues at all, fortunately my dealer is really good servicing mine and are pretty trustworthy. Either way if you got the time and knowledge to do it I say just do it yourself that way you know it’s done right. Warranty depends on how much you trust your dealer.
I’d fix it myself. The dealer will cost you way more headaches and find/start other issues. Service departments at dealerships are more shady than sales departments.
I would have it done under warranty. It does look like it is the valve cover however it could also be the cam cradle.
Use the warranty, they might void your warranty if they found you worked on it.
If you think you can do it in a reasonable amount of time, I would do it myself, but the T-turbo V6 looks like a real pain to access anything on.
😢. Happy new year H tech!
Happy new year!
Do these engines have cam towers Like the 5.7 in the tundras do ? If so that might be your leak . Not the valve cover 🤷
They do do not. One piece head on the 1GR.
MY 2021 TACO WITH JUST 7 MILES HAD A HEATER HOSE CLAMP LOOSE! WELL DONE TOYOTA. IT CAME WITH 2 FREE SERVICES AND I PASSED IT! NO WAY I'M LETTING THEM TOUCHING IT.
That could have been easily caught if the person actually did the pre delivery inspection before it had gotten sold. Unless they just don't actually do the inspection and the tech got paid for it and just checked everything on the list
If you're seeing oil on the ground i don't think the valve cover is your leak. Your finger was mostly dry when you touched it.
Probably cuz I have nice supple hands👌
if its under warranty and you touch it, everthing else going wrong will be your fault. Don't touch it until the warranty is up. Then, get a shop manual or start looking at vids
There’s really no quality auto manufacturers left.
Across the board the catastrophic failures happening are sad.
I’m keeping my old rides.
We have a 2005 Honda Pilot with 271K on it. 5K conventional bulk oil changes and trans and diff at 30K. No measurable oil use in 5K changes. I have a good Honda independent garage owned by a former 10 yr dealer Honda tech. I have a 2023 Honda Passport which I love but I doubt it'll do as well.
I think if you do it yourself it will void all warranty on it . Just don’t tell no one you did it . But remember the dealer will know if you install aftermarket parts . Use OEM parts .
Me personally I will use the Warranty till it’s gone. Then I do my own mechanic on it . But that just me . Good luck .
Very odd to see oil seepage that early. Either way I highly recommend if you are not running 5w-30 oil now to switch. I run 5w-30 along with all my family members with newer model Toyota's. The 0w-20 weight EPA forced oil is garbage.
I switched to 5w30 after my first break in oil change. Same thing on my 3rd gen taco when I had it.
I'd guess that the dealer will crank down on the valve cover bolts before replacing the gasket. If that's their solution, then your decision is pretty easy; do it yourself.
However, if it's not the gasket that's leaking, and instead it's casting porosity, then warranty work will be the only way that Toyota will touch it after the gasket change.
Porosity has been common on Honda aluminum CVT trans cases.
Dealer. Warranty.
Its your daily driver, and without a car you don't have an income for your day to day job.
Hopefully the dealer doesn't screw up the install like the factory. Can't remember if that corner has sealant by default, but I know some shops add it as prophylaxis.
Warranty work, that way it's documented with toyota just in case they do a service bulletin/recall.
valve cover leak? some sort of top end leak.
looks like an easy fix, would take about as much time and effort to fix it as it did to make this video if it didn't have the high pressure fuel pump in the way.
as somebody said "just try tightening the bolt" ... you could check to see if that bolt was torqued to spec (could probably feel if it was loose even without a torque wrench)
thanks for breaking it in for us used car buyers who know these things run just as good when they are 10 years old and half off msrp
Looks to be either the rocker cover gasket or the cam cradle, looks more like the cam cradle since its a bit lower. Either way, if you touch it, it wont be covered under warranty as thats a manufacturing defect.
If it's still under warranty you should bring it to the dealer, otherwise, they will try to get an excuse and say you messed up with it. They will not fix it.
And they say its BMWs that have oil leak issues 🤣🤣🤣
I'd utilize the warranty for this 💯%
If you do the job under warranty, it will go up the cahin of command un Toyota and if enough people are having the issue it could trigger a recall...
Warranty. And then check their work as far as is possible.
Under Warranty 100%, cya!
Poor sucker in Japan who Toyota tracks down as the one who installed the valve covers on that engine!!! He's gonna get fired !!!
Take it in, so you get it on the record in case you have to sue or use the lemon law in the future.
Looking at this engine bay, I miss my ‘73 Nova with a 6- cylinder engine…..
I would take it back to Toyota dealer since you have warranty on it. If you do it yourself you might violate the warranty.
I would go warranty, if you do it yourself and there is a problem with more than the gasket we all know the dealer will say warranty voided with you attempting to do a repair.
I would get it done under warranty. You don’t want to give Toyota any reason to decline coverage for a major issue down road because you worked on it. And if you do a video, they will have proof.
That’s the cam towers not valve cover, I’ll knock it out for you , timing cover has to come off good luck I’ll watch your video if you do, check out my timelaps of cam towers on that 4Runner I made a good video on the 4Runner with the engine out of vehicle
You're the only dealer tech I'd trust, big fan of your channel!
Nice more Toyota content for me to watch. Subscribed to your channel
@@theoffroadingmechanic Do you watch Car Care Nut?
@charley95sheridan44 yup I'm a subscriber.
That sucks they slacking
Had my 2023 Tacoma serviced at Toyota,, they WAY over tightened my oil filter
I change my oil all the time on my Tacoma, 4runner, and now the rav4 hybrid never an issue getting the filter off.
Get it repaired under warranty.
I understand and feel the same way of working on your own car, but your car is way too new not to warrant it. Take it back to the dealership and let them do it. No need to make a video on it, there’s plenty of videos out there for it. Sometimes they might find other things about it in the process and let them diagnose and repair it.
I'd utilize the warranty so that they don't have a reason to deny future claims. I'm a bit of a 4Runner fanboy, so this video bummed me out. Keep us posted!
Yea same here. Just a bump in the road still love the truck though. I put a deposit for a 2024 pro in underground but they didn't produce very many and refunded my deposit as we are already heading into 2025.
Take it in period!!!!
Do it yourself at least you know its done right. Just use new oem gasket
You'll have much less chance of "extra" bolts laying around when you do it yourself.
Anything you do to a car fairly new still under factory warranty will result on denial of waranty and calling you responsible of damages , take it to the dealer.
If you fix it yourself, you might void your warranty for other issues. Make them fix it under warranty. This is surprising to me, it being a Toyota. I have a '21 4Runner.
It must be warranty, you will void warranty if you do it yourself.
F*cking up a 4Runner engine is like a chef that can't do an omelet. Toyota has fallen so far down.
It seems that just about every business and every industry is on the same MO , ie they are getting rid of their skilled , highest paid employees and replacing them with high school kids and other unskilled help and paying them minimum wages. And the result is high attrition for them and bad and unreliable help for the customers. So, to answer your question, you are taking your chances when you take your car anywhere for repair but your car is under warranty and perhaps it's worth taking a chance. If it were out of warranty, I would not take it to them.
A dab of RTV! Problem solved! Save the gasket job for later when you do spark plugs or something major.
Definitely warranty
take it to warranty, get told warranty invalid to going offroad, and then tell us about it!
warranty would be a good idea but there is the waiting period versus doing it yourself knowing that it will be done right and in a timely manner...just saying
I know you want to do it yourself, but for the money involved on a warranty car take it in for records. If they mess it up you know what they did and get that $.
Working on Hondas everyday gets pretty repetitive need something new to do in my life. Lol
My old 2022 corolla started leaking oil after less than 100 miles. But thats because the transmission exploded and took the engine out with it. Best thing ive ever done was get rid of that toyota. Ill never buy another one.
I had a brand new CRV with a pin hole leak from the torque converter. I guess when they manufactured it they didn't completely weld the seam. Here's the video. th-cam.com/users/shortsTKqTCdUh74w?feature=share
It would make a great video. I don’t trust the dealer ships to even change my oil anymore
That’s a little extreme. I only have my oil changed at a dealership
Do it under warranty. Toyota wants to know the problems. Don't touch it.
And my 2016 Escape with 120,000 miles does not. Sorry mate.
I wouldn't touch it. Not too long ago Toyota was looking for any excuse to deny warranty. When the news of how bad Toyota products are today started getting out, they backed off some. They tried to deny warranty on things as simple as driving over 85 MPH with a GR owner. Toyota come up with every excuse under the sun for why my 2020 Camry was such a piece of junk. It was easier to dump the car to a dealer. I felt guilty considering selling it to a private party so I took the loss and dumped it on a dealer and bought a buddies 10 year old Ford to replace it.
Warranty claim is the only way I'd go myself...
They moved production to Mexico and wondered why their quality control is bad. My 2019 honda Ridgeline has engine recall because of rod bearing failures. I know my engine is failing because an oil change filter was full of big metal particles. Two companies known for their quality and today junk.
Rod bearing is one of the cheapest parts of the engine and uses cheap materials.