The Disturbing Truth about Discord
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- Discord is Far Worse Than You Thought...
This documentary outlines the dark sides of Discord.
Documentary Featuring @Softwilly
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - Chapter 1: The Red Flag Business Model
5:42 - Chapter 2: Discord Can Read your Every Word
11:01 - Chapter 3: The Cub Controversy
17:24 - Chapter 4: The Reality of Doxing
23:27 - Chapter 5: The Servers of the Dark Web
Discord is a wonderful platform. It helps people create and build relationship. However, what you see about Discord is only the surface. There is a dark side to Discord. In this documentary I outline the dark sides of Discord, from it's problematic business model, it's controversies, stories about users being doxed, and even to highly illegal things that it's users do every day. As we go deeper into the documentary things just get crazier and crazier exploring the dark side of Discord.
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how tf is this channel not more popular
I agree @FinaReverseOsmosis
I'm kinda scared now, but I'm glad I was able to find this video and learn about this side of Discord. Thank you.
Kinda upset that you put alot of research into discord violating private data.
But not even the bare minimum to state the fact that the cub or loli community largely consists of CSA victims as a coping mechanism and the one's that aren't DO NOT affiliate with pedophiles or condone child abuse.
Idk how I ended up here but I'm glad I did. It is about time someone compiled this fuckery into a video and this was well done. I'm going to I sub and dive into another video
crazy how discord can read your messages but still hasnt cracked down on child predators and overall sick people.
because they dont check every1s messages 24/7 lol they have access to it but for privacy reasons they dont look without reason like a report
@@ixdxmagedxl8737 more like can’t instead of won’t
They ARE the child predators and sick people.. that's my guess
The proof that they don't read your messages is in the "12 years old joke ban" story.
The lack of context of the conversation was the reason the person got banned. If the mods REALLY did read your messages, the ban wouldn't happen, as they would've realized it was satirical. The reason the ban happened is that somebody reported the joke message. And since they're sent the link to the message, it means they can scroll up and read other messages. They don't, though.
Also, discord doesn't keep deleted messages. If you take a link to a message and then delete the message, the link won't work.
@@cllncl You’re making assumptions here
1. They’re competent
2. that you not seeing deleted messages makes you think it’s deleted on their server
(im doubtful about the ban though)
Honestly this video might as well be called "The Disturbing Truth about Social Media" since pretty much everything described there is to a lesser or greater degree present on every popular social platform in existence.
Yeah, I really don't see how this is a real dig at Discord rather than just data collection as a whole. There were some really weak points here.
I thought the same. Before Discord, this stuff was done on Skype. Before that it was done on whatever various chat apps and online forums were popular at the time. The video is good and all, but it tries to create this scary atmosphere about how your safety is at stake if you use Discord. Your safety is at stake if you ise the internet to interact with any humans, period.
A little unrelated but personally, the only thing I've ever feared from social media would be my bank account or other important documents being compromosed. I'm an adult man, so I'm not at risk from being groomed online and I certainly don't meet any randos so I'm not gonna get killed. I don't beef with people in random servers, I mostly stay in few private ones with select online friends I've known for years before Discord, so I'm not really at risk of being doxxed and having someone put a hit on me. At worst, even if my private messages were to get publicly leaked somehow, it's like.. I have nothing to hide there. At most, sure, people I've talked trash about could find them and they'll might be pissed off at me... But that's really not so bad in the grand scheme of things. I don't send naughty photos of myself or say explicit things that could get me in legal trouble. I mean, sure, I have discussed naughty things... What could happen, me and my friends discussing our favorite porn videos could be leaked... And? Where's the threat in that to me? Maybe people who know me will read it and think I'm weird, but that's it.
The point of this little rant is that you pretty much choose yourself how "exposable" you want to be. Don't want to risk bad things about you being leaked?Don't publish bad things online.
Good point
I think your partially right, but there were a few statements directed towards discord.
Exactly
I actually saw another video titled "Discord: The most evil business in the world", and it reminded me of this video, and I have to say this one is far better because it has better points unlike the other video which seemed to be a huge stretch. This one is really well researched and presented.
Thank you a ton. Actually the creator of that video copied my video. Very similar script referenced from mine, and even took clips from my video as well. I didn't appreciate that, but it is what it is. Thanks so much for enjoying this one too!
@@VisualVenture Ah everything makes so much more sense now! Yeah that video was just a ton of accusations trying to make discord seem like something terrible, whereas I think it is fine because it was never meant to be a secure app for private conversations? Anyways thanks for replying!
Wait, are you talking about Moon? Funny coincidence, I just watched one of his videos about tiktok
@@VisualVenture oh wow yeah, i saw that video and it's oddly too similar
It was moon wasn't it.
thank you for telling me this. I realized how dangerous it is for me, at the age I am at and I understand why the terms of service is to be over the age of 13. and from now on I am going to refuse to use discord until I am 13. again thank you
Thank you a ton. I respect that a lot 🙏🏽
Good choice, fellow chad.
just make a server with your irl friends, people you can trust. interacting with strangers 24/7 can be really bad even if youre older
Discord is also dangerous if your 13 because of hackers
I haven't watched the video yet, but I think it's ok if you don't go around telling everyone your full name and address and stuff. At least that's what I avoided when I was a kid. But then again we do have way more technology nowadays and my experience could be completely irrelevant now. Either way I do know the internet can be super dangerous at any age really. (Like dark web type shit)
as someone who uses discord on a day to day basis, this documentary really scared me cuz i didn't know this kind of stuff was on discord. i mean, i knew there was but not on this much of a level. the people who do this deserve hell. also really underrated video & channel, hoping this gets more views!
Thank you my friend. Glad I was able to help you learn more about discord. Not to stop using it, but just to know the risks :)
@@VisualVenture Risks are legit everywhere online. But, the amount of illegal and disgusting people on Discord is kinda insane to think about. I had no idea of that news report (mostly because I don't watch the news lol) but yeah jeez.
same i also use it everyday and this got me terrified
@@VisualVenture Thank you so much for this. bc hooooly shittles, I shared selfies with a friend on discord along with my age and even the area where I live once (luckily not the actual address but still). Discord is disgusting but it's the only thing that I can use to talk to any online friend that I want on my chromebook since EVERYONE on the platform I use has discord.
May I mention how EASY it is for kids to access nsfw content on discord? Its actually too easy, and as ashamed as I am to admit it, I've even used that technique to access it a couple of times before I found a glitch on bing.
I cant believe that I didnt see the red flags before. I mean, how DO they make money?! Almost nobody has nitro!
@@-Blasphemy- idk what your seeing, but with almost everyone at my school having discord, many of them have nitro. I am sure that it is not the only way they make their money, but there is a good portion of people using nitro, you may just be in different communities tho.
I almost shit myself in the last chapter, seriously. How can an being do these awful stuff? People like these deserve the worst punishment.
Yeah pretty messed up stuff :/
Seen it happen to much. And as a mod in 5 servers it's very tiring. I don't like the idea of minors even joining servers. It's disgusting seeing this happen the only thing I can do is remove them from the servers most of the time.
And well.... Pedophilia is just one of the horrible things that go on there...
@@firstnamelastnamethirdname Good for you!
bro i laughed at softwilly
My friend and I joined discord dating servers to mess with people but what we found wasn't fun like we were hoping. Instead we found guys in their late twenties dating fifteen year olds and the other members completely supported it
Fucking nasty
make sure to report it to authorities
Most likely (of course there's disgusting people who aren't like what I'm about to say), the members were supportive of two *teens* dating, not a teen and a p3do.
@@zejayee what bro? It was an almost 30 year old dating a teenage girl, and the members were completely supportive of that relationship
@@robbie1169 then that is absolutely nothing to be anywhere. That's just gross.
The intro of this video has taught me that I have an automatic reaction of fear and worry in response to the discord call sound
Isn't it common that every platform continually stalks us? We have no form to stop it.
Yep there are issues with a lot of platforms so I plan on talking about other platforms in the content to come!
yeah there is a huge profile for almost everyone who uses the internet, my guess is just what's the point, and if they sell it to someone, who is it too?
@@VisualVenture go on. I'm with you on this.
@@VisualVenture so everyone but whatsapp?
@Viktor huh, doesn't most apps just sell your data to advertisements?
discord deleted my account for joking about being 12 years old. i have so much personal info on there to the point where if they went in my account, they'll get my bank account info and the password to other social medias
rip
oh jeez....
imagine using discord as a password bank
@@sinoroman so many people do this it aint even funny. Rip to them tho.
I believe if you email them and asked them to delete your data, if they didn't it would be a criminal offense
And what's the likelyhood of them doing that? Low, but you could probably get some money out of them
I think this hugely exposes poor parenting and how the mindset of being online has changed. When I was growing up it was normal not to share any personal info online but now everyone wants to use their real names and post personal pictures etc. If parents monitored their kids it would help. And if people maintained at least a semi reasonable level of personal security and accountability it would also help.
I just want to put this out there. In Discord's TOS, they have a section stating that you can in no way sue Discord themselfs, if any of the personal data they collect on you gets leaked/breached onto the internet. Many developers thought that was pretty weird and self incriminating, but you can't change a companies policy. Also the section about doxxing, is going to be common on every platform.
Don't give a fuck, I'd do it anyway.
@@roflBeck Being intentionally edgy is super lame.
@@icecreamnoodles3742 so are super shady TOS's.
You probably won't read this message, but I'll share the story on how I learned about Discord and furries
A year or two ago, I was in a server where someone named Coda was known for grooming minors, posting NSFW of real animals, and posted cub art, he himself being a 19 year old furry. I was a mod on the server at the time and Coda was not there, but he still had an effect on it. Someone who was a victim/ex-friend of Coda (named Yoshi) approached me and gave me his tag and proof of what he did. I added Coda and he said he never knew me, yet he gave me his PERSONAL Discord name. I talked to the mods and I decided to @ everyone with Coda's tag and told them to report him
In hindsight, it was a bad idea, as many people harassed and doxxed him. I say it was a bad idea because he reported me the next day, and he knew it was traced back to me
However, I also ignored a warning from someone who I assumed was joking, which went along the lines of this:
"Coda has a circle with the moderators of Discord. If he tells them, you're done for"
I had my account banned, with my email reading I had distrubuted/owned NSFW of minors
This makes no sense on so many levels. I never did this to begin with, Coda admitted to not knowing me (and our conversation was our only interaction), and there was proof from Yoshi and rumors from others that he had done the previous acts mentioned
What had happened turned out to be true. Coda (according to Yoshi) knew a handful (around 10) of Discord furry moderators via being a furry and possibly knowing of cub content. Coda had managed to get the moderators to ignore the truth about what he had done and managed to get me banned
After I rejoined the server, I told the server what happened. Although they had all fought back again, many gave up, knowing it was pointless as is
To this day, I believe Coda is still out there, and despite me sending all my proof to Discord's HQ, they went silent. This was the first time I've never gotten a response, as before, I've discussed unfair bans and issues, and I get even minimal responses such as simply telling me they read my report. When I told them about Coda KNOWING moderators, the HQ instantly stopped reading my emails and reports
Super sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing your story.
holy shit i think i knew a furry pedo named coda. what was the server name? it might be the same guy
This is horrible
As a furry myself, this cub content is weird as heck. Never heard of this "coda" guy but he sounds disgusting as heck.
You still have the evidence left? Might be useful to post it somewhere, maybe on reddit just in case
I went on whitepages thinking it would be funny to see information on myself, only to see full information on my father. I'm terrified to say the least.
The fact someone can pay to see that information too is horrifying.
Whitepage?
@@hazalk4168 the whitepages
cool
How did you find it wtfffffffff huh I thought that was a joke what the actual
@@orangegherkin3420 you thought this is a joke? Nah, this stuff is real man
I love how the intro starts with the discord call theme for a disturbing video
I feel like the older I get the more I see the problem with the internet and the people who act on it. I'm not saying people shouldn't find friendships online, but online friendships are not as genuine I feel as real-life friendships.
Yeah and it's not like anyone can block you in real life.
I mean, to be honest, who really thought that private DM's were actually private and not even the staff members could access it?
The thing is, you wouldn't be able to report dms if they really WERE private
@@cyber4599 True
yeah this video is true but i never understood why people were surpised by that
discord is good for talking,but not for serious shit
@@somo4227 which is something people don't grasp. no clue why tho.
Plus his whole complaint about wanting end to end encryption is kind of at odds with being able to moderate the platform. You can't have both. Either you value privacy over safety/moderation or vice-versa.
Amazing documentary homie! Keep doing what you're doing!
Thanks for taking part! Was a pleasure 🙏
OMG IT'S THE REAL KRIMSONTV 😱😱😱
@@MissingGamer shh
4
Ew
I only use Discord to chat with my friends who I know in real life so I never knew those awful things existed in this app, to be honest I was shocked
I know righttt same. I use it to keep in touch with my high school friends
welcome to internet
use telegram with secret chat.
@@mann_idonotreadreplies I use telegram on daily basis to chat w my relatives and friends
I remember getting obsessed about using Discord and getting depressed for an entire day because I get warned or something.
It was after I got banned from some server for no reason that I finally realized how unhealthy my obsession was.
Since then I've started to take some steps back. I still use Discord daily, but now I exclusively only hang around in smaller communities and servers with some people I know well online. Social media is great when you, well, want to *social*ize, but if you get obsessed with it, then you're only going to go into a spiral of eventual... let's just say "shit".
I'm glad I managed find the problem before it got any worse.
I'm almost entirely in smaller servers because the fandoms/communities I'm in are smaller
I'm just addicted to Discord as I need a place to be.
I'm going through the same situation right now, brother.
Only using it with smaller communities I can count on one finger 😂.
How the heck do you get obsessed with Discord? It's just a chat app, you use it for talking to people? That doesn't make any sense to me
This was a very well made documentary. People need to remember that the internet isn't a magical place where what ever you post won't be caught. It's always stored somewhere. It's a huge network of data and that data is owned by someone.
Yeah, I really don't see how this is a real dig at Discord rather than just data collection as a whole. There were some really weak points here.
@@dark-ghost5455 I've already seen you say this earlier so since I saw you say the same exact thing, I'm going to reply. No, but Discord is still a really good example to talk about social media and internet safety and how all of the social media platforms are terrible. Facebook, Instagram, even WhatsApp. They're all owned by Facebook and Facebook is scummy as hell and just got caught sending private messages to the government about a 17 year old and her mother talking about her abortion and now they're facing jail charges. These websites/social media and data mining is dangerous. It is free constant surviellance and that is bad all around.
Discord is still a great example of this fucked up process and the fact that End to End Encryption should damn well be the norm on websites all over the internet along with screenshot blocking and the option to have automatic disappearing messages. Privacy options need to be a thing because real everyday people are being massively taken advantage of by these mega rich corporations. Privacy has been listed as human right by United Nations themselves and America isn't respecting it just like America doesn't respect the fact that free healthcare is a basic human right, United Nations announced that during 1980s or something and most developed nations have some form of universal healthcare- except us.
This awareness helps people realize just how vulnerable they are online and what steps we CAN take to help reduce that. I love Discord's interface and their server option but their absolute refusal to E2EE especially after the shit the creator and the employees have pulled? No fucking way.
@@dark-ghost5455 That's because I saw this comment on the 4chan documentary. Must've been copied.
...And that someone is always malicious.
Oh but it is a magical place, a magical place full of mold, famine and much more sewage.
Back when I was a kid I would have loved a service like Discord where I could have chatted with people my age at a scale like this. Where I could just join and chat with hundreds of people just by joining one server.
It is very unfortunate that there are people who are abusing this...
In mid 2000's IRC was our Discord
Just try a day in the 2b2t discords...hope you guys love completely inappropriate content and the most offensive remarks you can imagine.
@@invadr it’s 2b2t… what did you expect lmao
@@invadr no offense bro but did you expect kindness from probably the most toxic players to ever exist?
@@mantaspart Yeah from the 90s to the 2000s IRC provided all kinds of chat rooms, servers, communities, like a much more independent version of Discord. Not to mention, up until recently forums were a unique and important community space, typically not extensively monetised for huge profit, that have fallen (wrongly) by the wayside as big companies have monopolised notions of online community, often into less egalitarian spaces- think more.. influencer and followers, product and fans, instead of community member and equally important other community members. In the old internet it really wasn't the case that the first question was 'who/what is the product here'? Not trying to be all 'in my day' here, but, basically, the levels of monetisation as default we see here just simply weren't established yet back then. This said, predators were absolutely rife, as well, in the days of IRC, preying on young teens etc, as they do today via other means.
ive seen so many internet documentrys to use these topics to trash fandoms, communities, or even discord as a whole, thank you for casting the red light on the topics that truly needed to be exposed while at the same time still stating the good parts about discord
Dude, I'm so glad I found your channel. I've been watching your videos almost non-stop.
You cover the most messed up stuff on the net but manage to bring a positivity to close it all out that stops the all consuming dread from swallowing me whole.
Please continue your work. You've really got something here.
Discord will never spy on your messages unless you're reported. However, the fact that they're even doing that is awful and it would be catastrophic if those logs get leaked. Unfortunately nobody will ever switch to something with end to end encryption.
And sadly now they’re going to spy on what you do on other platforms now. If you look at their new terms of service policies (or whichever one it was, I have to look again), it states that they’ll actually look through what you post on other platforms to “make sure you aren’t causing harm” or some stupid reason like that. Clearly they’re doing this to either have reason to ban you from the platform or spy on you further-.
@@Thebdippy The only business that comes from spying is ads. A lot of companies do make money by selling what you say to advertisers, but discord has no ads. They have nobody else to sell this data to, they're not partnered with anybody who could use it. Except TenCent, who worryingly has an investment in the company.
Signal exists, but Discord prevails because of word of mouth and ease of use and marketing
There exists EoE encryption services, but the masses don’t likely care that much to use it
I mainly use discord to communicate with family members, I'm on some servers for some mobile games I play mainly just to see updates or answers to a question that I can usually just find by searching chat history but I'm not really liking their new terms of service. Do you know if Guilded would be any better to move to? Or Line? I have signal but only 2 people I know use it...
@@yeoldegrayCat I thought discord was fine and was actually pretty cool now I'm questioning
The fact that I've used Discord years and years on end and I thought it was a good place to chill and hang with ur online pals and shit. Now I am pretty aware of what discord is actually doing on the inside regardless of what happens because of the really weird or offsetting stuff the users on discord put. Thank you for showing me this document on what actually goes on in discord and to be more defensive on this dummy app.
@FemonicRBLX who asked and who cares
@@jannetkendiya5515 Exactly, my friend, he seeks attention
I use 3rd party apps that run the account for you and keep your account safe, and i sometimes use a VPN. I also use an old device and its hard to get my personal info. So far its worked.
@FemonicRBLX Bruh
Bro... it's literally a meme that everyone on discord is a pedo
Big respect for you shedding light to the dark sides of discord thanks man
Discord got me scared honestly. I was in a meme server trying to steal some memes but then someone posts a video multiple people getting tortured and killed.
I’ve seen similar shit it messes with you
To the people who feels anxious:
There’s always a dark side to anything. Light doesn’t have a shadow, and almost nothing is light. We can’t stop this right now, but we can prevent it.
Let’s just hope this will end soon. Don’t let your guard down, have a good day!
Yin and Yang, Light cannot exist without dark.
Any element of the internet will have it's secrets, no matter what, and if it doesn't then it will one day. Tis how the online world has and always will work.
Safety comes from you yourself. The information you release is up to you. Every social network account sells your data these days. Even facebook and twitter.
the closer you get to the light, the greater your shadow becomes - kingdom hearts
in less convoluted wording, the road to hell is paved with good intentions
we already sold our privacy to youtube and google so why the heck should we worried about discord
Thank you 😊
I've come across a lot of underage people downloading Discord without knowing any possible consuquence and you may not have changed their minds, but you enlightened a lot of people that knew a little, but not this much
Thanks for the video
Usually most discord server owners will spot the underaged people and be able to ban/report but yeah it's not always the case.
I think that is caused by massive discord youtubers such as Beluga exposing younger children to the platform. I joined when I was 12 and for 2 years I didn't even know about public servers, I just used it occasionally to play roblox with my friends. Now in every major discord server there are a lot of children along with it. I have since deleted discord because I don't want to spend my time online and would rather see my friends irl.
@@rach3092 if you dont get caught being underage or say you are, its safe to assume you're mature enough to stay on most servers, but if you're so dumb that you literally say you're underage, then yeah i think you shouldnt be on discord
im 13, and ive had discord since i was 11, managed to stay without getting caught being underage
@@johark Ironically, you said your age lol
@@silksongoutyet yeah because im not underage, if i was underage i wouldnt say my age
I love your videos man! I love that you use popular sociology experiments and examples to show similarities it’s so interesting
I’m hooked on his documentaries they are really well made !! Diving into the dark side of the internet is fascinating but equally terrifying!!! Really makes you think about how many monsters are really out there.
the fact that its so easy to find cp servers is insane, they claim to investigate when you report a server but why don't the servers get taken down its honestly concerning. I myself have also gotten targeted by people on discord I always get punished but the people that targeted me never did, how is that fair? I've gotten my account disable numerous times even after appealing the ban I've never been unbanned. Discord has gotten to the point that I don't wanna communicate and try to find new people to talk to in fear that some toxic 15 year old will harass me and my friends, I wanna switch to a different messenger but its hard to cause everyone uses discord plus all my friends don't want to switch for the same reasons that I don't want.
TLDR: Discord is a toxic place and the support/safety team sucks
Ive reported a server that was selling cheats. Just to not get comprtition. And it took only like 2 days for them to do it. So idk what u on about. Its just that people dont report those cp servers
@@sexlover34 the fact that I've reported those servers and discord always says that they found nothing wrong with those servers is what I'm on about
@@ItsLiu i guess its not that obious that there is cp there. In my case it was super obioud they were selling hacks
They probably aren't taken down because they are being investigated by law enforcement
@@millenialmuscle8254 if they log everything after its deleted they just forward the stuff to law enforcement keeping it up afterwards does more harm than good
Really solid video man, shocked to see the amount of effort you put into this. Really interesting deep dive too. lots of parts to this rabbit hole that are disturbing, to say the least. Looking forward to seeing your channel take off
Thank you man I actually wanted to message you, but I never got around to it. Basically, your advice was one of the main reasons that helped me push this video out. And if there’s anything I may be of help to you, please let me know. Always happy to help 🙏🏽.
This thing is actually pretty amazing, was searching for some good documentary videos and got some to binge on
@@VisualVenture never gonna give you up
@@ninjafou8522 never gonna let you down
@@alex.g7317 never gonna run around
as someone who got doxxed by my own school friend, nick’s opinion made me feel like i wasn’t alone. we need more kind people in this world. ❤
You deserve much more attention. Keep up the good work👍
Thank you so much 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wow! Well done, this was a really great documentary!🤯Very well made, more people need to see this...
Ikr
Thanks brother you’re the man
This video needs more views. Not just because it's high quality, but because it informs people that discord isn't as safe as they think. I hope your channel succeeds.
The whole internet isn't as safe as you think TBH.
IDK but this just seems like diverting from real problems to shaming Discord (?)
I'm not saying Discord is a saint, but look elsewhere, there's sh*t everywhere.
although this is true, most of the servers nowadays are relatively safe but there are defiantly bad people on there
@@psssssssss Discord has a responsibility to make sure they’re not turning a blind eye to lawbreakers
@@corpsefoot758 it’s not possible to monitor every single server or every single user. Even when they receive reports , they would first have to check whether these reports are real or not
@@yashburman7640 You mean (GASP) a company would need to actually … spend money in order to do the work required for law-abiding citizens? Say it ain’t so 😱
On a serious note, just because Discord can’t monitor everything doesn’t mean they should be allowed to do the bare-minimum. And when it comes to say, their track-record on pedophilia within the furry community, they SORELY missed the mark. And should be held accountable on multiple levels for doing so
Almost at a million views! Thank you for this video. There is a huge fan base for this type of content, keep it up💪🏽🖤
I found your videos and thought it was a multi million sub channel but holy shit man, your content is amazing you deserve massive growth !
Yoo thanks to much Kat! Really means the world to me. Hope you can stick around because there’s gonna be tons more to come this year!
I’ve been following the whole cub furry thing for a while, a lot of the time, furry’s who say they like cub are pedos themselves. And when furries with common sense try to warn conventions of these convicted pedophiles (since children go to these conventions as well) , they are dismissed, saying they’re just -causing drama- not to mention furries with these felonies have people in high places, aka con staff.
So yes, I very much agree with the fact that moderators are cub enthusiasts themselves.
((Edit: I’m not saying that people who view cub are automatically a convicted pedophile, clearly. this is a message mainly for that one wise guy -3-
Also how’s your day?
This is why we make a big fucking commotion about them trying to exist within our community. It's disgusting and not tolerated.
why are children going to furry convention?? what the fuck, this is some bad parenting right here.
Bad people always get friends in high places and sugar coat things or the people they are friends with are people who share these same sick interests.
@dumb comment This first comment was originally very aggressive, so I'll let a more civilized version sit here. The original comment will be down below.
new version:
Yes there is a culture being appropriated. There are multiple cultures, such as the Funny Animal culture, where characters such as Fox from Star Fox or Mickey Mouse from Disney come from. there are also other cultures that use animals with human characteristics, for example fables that were made long ago. Search up some fables, you'll find those pretty quickly. The definition you put is extremely vague. Animal characters with human characteristics is just a concept that anyone can like. Being an enthusiast for this concept does not make you a furry. The word "furry" as a connotation used to describe the *furry fandom* . If you use the internet (which you obviously do), you'll find fandoms. Fandoms are basically groups made by fans around certain things. Example: FNAF fandom, Undertale fandom. The name of these fandoms clearly have the said subject on it. " *FNAF* fandom", makes it a fandom of FNAF, not a fandom around fnaf fangames per say. Furry fandom is based of furries, not anthro animals or the concept itself. Furries, as in the fictional creations and characters within the fandom, are inspired by the subject, but are a diffrent culture. What OP has done is associate Mickey Mouse, which is from the *Funny Animal* culture, with the *furry* fandom, thus being cultural appropriation, as it is an inappropriate adoption of the Funny Animal culture.
The definiton of "furry", as in the connotation, should be "A person who directly associates themselves with the furry fandom and self proclaims as a part of it". Its more precise and less vague. "An enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics" is SUPER VAGUE, and the reader might interpret it as their bias wishes. I would also make the definiton of furry fandom be: "A community made by people who are self proclaimed furries, where content made inside the community itself is shared". I hope these definitons are simple and direct. The google definiton itself is incorrect, but is so vague to the point of making the person think there is no cultural appropriation involved. But as I said, its vague, so people might interpret the "An enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics" as literally all anthropomorfic animals, which is not true. This is a leading cause of the cultural appropriation that happens within and outside the fandom. The concept itself has existed since dawn of time, as you can see by the egyptian gods for example. I'm trying my best to separate the Furry Fandom from the concept itself, anthropomorphic animals and funny animals as a whole.
I would love to hear your point of view in this situation, because this problem is indeed complex. Bisases can ruin someones point of view, and these biases who are passed on as facts do more harm than good. Unfortunately, instances like these go further than just "furry or not", it can go and destroy peoples lives as fake news. This problem can sound insignificant, but its very harmful to anthropomorfic animal creators, as there are certain people who don't want to associate themselves with such a controvesial community like the furry fandom. People making up definitions and forcing biases down others throats dont help this situation at all. I can try to show more unbiased proof and try to explain myself better. Thanks if you read this in its entirety.
Old ver:
yeah, no youre wrong. Furries are fan of furries. Anthros have nothing to do wth them. I know what furries are. You didnt even try to my argument on why bringing kids to furry conventions is a bad idea. Instead, you feast on lies and cultural appropriation. EVERY SINGLE TIME I COMMENT ABOUT FURRIES PEOPLE GO ON CALLING FUNNY ANIMALS FURRIES. You are aware of what is a funny animal, yet you compared them to furry culture. I'm in shock. the cultural appropriation and the misinformation is real. I dont want to sound like a snob, but you're wrong. FUrries and funny animals (basically almost every anthro animal) are two SEPARATE, DIFFRENT THINGS. Furries are a recent thing and funny animals have been existing since tales were a thing. I dont get it, why are you using biases to prove your point? Some furries may like anthros, but people are individuals. Furries are literally their own culture (do you see disney posting animation memes?) with their own characters. Pushing anthros into the furry culture is not only cultural appropriation, but you are tarnishing multiple famous characters AND CULTURES into this infamous internet community.
I f*cking give up. I know I cant really change ppls minds, but the cultural appropriation is real. If you mind, I hope you would remove the "furry are fans of anthro animals" part because not all furries are fans of anthro animals. They may just like the concept. You are mixing two different cultures and you contradicted yourself. Its like if you said that anime fans like western cartoons.
Sorry if this comment is rude, but please, dont commit this cultural appropriation. Its really harmfull to furries and funny animal fans. Hope my comment educated you a bit.
@dumb comment Its okay! I actually thank you for being understanding. Most people would just ignore my comment. Can i ask something though? I would deeply appreciate if you removed the mickey mouse part, as it is incorrect. I stated this on my second comment towards yours. I just want to prevent misinformation! I'm glad you could see through the biases :)
I got myself a girlfriend on discord and we’re even dead set on marrying each other and having kids. We spend a lot of time together (hours on end) but it has always been a joy to be with her. My girlfriend was the first person I can emotionally rely on and she’s very sweet unlike the vast majority of people I socially interact with in the real world but regardless of not finding any sort of love in the real world, I agree on the sentiment that it shouldn’t be an excuse to completely shun yourself from real life and spend all your days on discord. Completely relying on discord or any other social media platform can make you prone to attacks from hackers and such and there is one thing you can do to reduce the risk of getting attacked and that is by just going offline every once in a while.
Congrats on your relationship and also observing the risks 🙌🏽. Life is about balance 👍
Look man im not gonna knock it, but just know it’s possible she’s cheating on you. I dont wish it on you but wouldnt be surprised.
@@rakimu6023 u don't know nothing about their relationship and trust shut up
wait why is that actually wholesome
@@rakimu6023 I mean really, anyone could be cheating. Even in a normal relationship.. I think everyone realizes thats always a possibility.
I honestly love these videos it’s creepy and disturbing but entertaining
discord is a very weird and unusual app, yeah it has its ways for helping communication but its so easy to fake being someone, not only that but its also an open source app meaning that people can create scripts to bypass certain things and all it takes is that one person that has nothing to do all day and then they could cause a very big problem, thank you for bringing light to these issues, hopefully one day something could be done about at least one of these problems if not all.
I always avoided big public Discord servers since I always had a bad feeling about them. I personally only enjoy small servers with my friends, and we only use the platform to chat while we are gaming or to video call. I think people should use other apps which use end to end encryption like WhatsApp to share private information
Whatsapp is no improvement. Well, if this video is right, then it's *somewhat* better. Basically all communication platforms these days that are even remotely mainstream have serious issues.
I completely agree. Well said 👍
Telegram is way safer than whatsapp tbh
@@smileyguyz Exactly. These guys never heard of messenger birds?
Yeah and Riot (Matrix) is better than Discord
I honestly thought this was going to be a slog of "discord bad", but instead you gave a lot of useful info and left things on an encouraging and healthy note. thank you
Thank you for commenting this because I use discord a lot and starting this video I was beginning to feel sick with anxiety
Discord still is bad its a very flawed platform and needs a ownership change
@@funderfan6762 You can't blame discord, it's like blaming facebook, everything he mentioned in this video happened way before discord was invented, discord is just another social media platform, and as with any social media platform or society, not every member has good intentions.
Discord is bad. When my friends started migrating to discord, I checked out their platform, and it was obvious that there was a trust issue with their monolithic server model. It was the younger gaming crowd that herded us all onto that shitty platform.
@@cyberkird7435 Every social media platform has a responsibility to spend the money on making sure they’re not turning a blind eye to illegal activity. Stop shilling for companies
And this is why I never accept dms nor get personally involved with people I don't know. Especially since I can be a target of these disgusting human wastes. Awesome documentary, sir! I hope more people discover your amazing content ^^.
Reasons why I deleted discord: *this video exists*
No social media's is safe 😂
Snapchat in my opinion is wrost than discord
It brings me so much disappointment that you only have 2k subscribers, I personally think you deserve waaaayy more, the effort and skill put into this video is absolutely astonishing, keep up the good work!
Thank you sooo much. Hope you could stick around for content to come!
Doubled in a day, god damn
Wait i didn't notice lmao , subbed him
woah wow! only 2k subscribers!? Incredible video! When I saw this video I assumed the channel had at least 60k subscribers, I suppose that just shows the scale of this video's quality
10k now
This terrifies me, mostly the storage of the messages. Discord is the only way I talk to my friends-
This guy is making free, VERY VERY detailed documentaries, he deserves more viewers,
Now that i think about it i also joked about being 7 when im actually 15 so discord asked for my student ID which i didnt do because i thought it would be stupid so i just made a new acc, i think i did a good choice.
Wow discord is like every other company wow I never would of seen that coming
wow i honestly had no clue that discord stores so much information. i swear i thought it had end-to-end encryption but i guess not. i will definently be more careful and cautious when im using this app, you earned a sub.
Thanks Ryan glad you could join us on the journey 🙏🏽.
Never in my life have I felt as much fear as the day I was doxxed. I made friends with the wrong guy in high school, he had a rough childhood but a lot of it's exaggerated. The kid took everything a lot more seriously than he should and always had an irrational way of dealing with something. One week, he was ready to ask the girl that he likes if she would date him. As you can expect he got rejected but for two good reasons, she liked someone else, and she had only known him for a few weeks at that point. The rest of the week the guy acted like he was at a funeral. He told me he doesn't handle rejection well, that she was his world, and that she's why he was happy about going to school each day. I told the guy there is plenty of fish in the sea and that he's gotta learn to get back up when knocked down. The kid took it the wrong way I guess and started saying shit behind my back. He snapped when I got a staff member's attention after he told me and the girl he was planning to commit suicide. He started sending pictures of me with my bb guns to people as if they were real and that I had violent intentions. Along with that, he had the three officers show up at my house ready to arrest me. Honestly, it's good on that girl for rejecting him, she saved herself the hellish nightmare of a toxic relationship.
That is really damn scary. It actually makes me sick to my heart that people like that can exist and they seek fame and likeness from other stupid and edgy people like them, honestly I've encountered that type of person in school, and really I don't understand how someone just gets so edgy and still finds a way to stay "cool" in their own messed up space. I really hope you recover from that and you can stay safe man!
@@SkyKrye I have been working on it but like Thomas Wayne says, "We fall so we can learn to pick our selves up." Thanks for being able to sympathize with me.
Damn bruh, that sounds horrifying and if I was in ur place I would have been so mad at that guy
@@ushaht6906 I'm definitely still pissed about it, the dude has hopefully realized that he's the reason no one could stand him. The scariest part of it all was how out of control he continued to remain after those events..
@@Freddy-BA It's really cool you're relying on that phrase and making your life better, keep it going man!
O-M-G that was very informative but also inspiring at the end. Im absolutely sharing this everywhere. Thank You for this
thank YOU for sharing this! There's gonna be a ton more documentaries to come this year and I hope to see you in the comments! :)
Amazing video bro I love that you help bring to light these sad things so keep making amazing vids like that!
My one problem with this is the Stanford prison experiment. It's discredited at large by any credible entities.
Was looking for this comment once it was brought up
Vsauce made a pretty good video about it in his minefield series
A while back, I decided to dig deep into the 'furry fandom' and found myself in a rabbit hole of pedophiles and explicit servers in discord. I decided "Why not play along?" so, I made a profile and posted my 'character' (literally just one I found online) in a furry server. I had received quite a few messages myself so I caved in and decided to chat with these people. One I'd found worked a day job and was 23, doing this type of stuff. Even at work, they ERPed with people online. It goes to show how an average person, living a ordinary life can be something like that behind closed doors. As of right now, I believe the server has been deleted.
when this is what is presented as a "fandom" i understand how ppl blindly hate all of them bc whats bad there is *really* bad
Let's at least take solace in that is but one batch of bad apples on a massive tree.
Should've pretended you were one of them and embarrass them to death.
I mean, if you go looking for trash, trash you will find. Especially in such a large fandom that's relatively inclusive and ties into thousands of hobbies. If you look up "Furry ERP" that's exactly what you'll find, and that's what a lot of anti-furs do when looking for reasons to hate furries. Please be aware that those who actually have more than 6 braincells in the fandom fucking despise all pedos, groomers, and animal abusers alike who use the fandom as a scapegoat.
@@novemberiscoolithink Larger ones with the same issues aren't near the same level of unanimously reviled, and I'd argue this presents more of a case for hating humanity (or the lowest common denominator) than any particular group but yes.
Bro this is some LEMMiNO like quality right here. You are underrated af
Crazy how this was going on even when the announcement back in feb about the TOS and privacy updates coming into effect march 28th and all was published on their own website. It really makes ya wonder..
Bro, I can see the work you put into it. Definitely worth the wait.
Thanks brother appreciate you! Keep up the good work on your end as well
@FemonicRBLX good to know
And it’s not only Discord.
i really talk alot with all my friends on discord but what u just said litterly made me get the shivers
Something my dad taught me literally last night about apps like discord, Instagram, Facebook etc
Dad- “What is their product?”
Me- “uhhhh… ads?”
Dad- “If you can’t figure out the product, the product is you. Think about it. They carefully choose what to put on your screen using an algorithm. And they put you on other peoples screens. You are the product.”
Tbh I’ve been thinking about it a lot.
that is good wisdom
it's always been there, it's just sad how some people don't even realize
@@GAHAHAHH Thank you!
@ Kenneth Clark I’m not trying to do any of that- I’m just repeating what my dad said. And while my statement might have sounded extreme, yours does too. Obviously there are exceptions.
@@GAHAHAHH your comment honestly made me feel better, tysm
I blocked someone after three hours of first interacting with them on Discord because they sent me furry fetish porn and a year later they are stalking me in real life. Terminally online people can be fucking insane, stay safe.
How U know irl?
@@astrobacon7yearsago He left me a creepy note.
@@hallowedgears4243 oh SHI-
I hope all is well
What the fuck
@@hallowedgears4243 What did it say?
you just didn't let me know more about discord but also taught me a lot more lessons about life
What Jason said at 5:25 is genuinely true most of the time. My friend was being groomed and I contacted support and within about 30-60 minutes I got a response asking for a direct link to the message (copy message link feature) and screenshots to go along with. Later they were term'd
I was groomed and coerced into sending nudes on discord by an older man at 15. While this doc scared me, I'm thankful that I now understand my situation and will be preparing in case something happens
I've had similar situations on multiple websites, I feel your pain. It's good it's getting out to people, so some kids could be saved from such horrible things.
They know you better then you think, *"Victim"* you gave them your information, you chose to trust a stranger you never met and now you suffer the consequences for it. Pity points only get you so far... turn off your camera, -they're- always watching you.
@@BigOlYoloProduction I only now realised I was groomed. I wasn't aware then and it still is such a shock. Please be more sympathetic as I think you misinterpreted my comment😅😅
@@BigOlYoloProduction That's the thing, you don't realize until years later. Kids are easy to manipulate and since I didn't understand why it was wrong, I trusted the adult that it's right.
@@BigOlYoloProduction why put the kid at blame when the responsibility of not being a creep relies on the older (and subconsequently, more mature) person that groomed them? the groomer is the creep, and the groomer is the one who should be shamed and shunned instead of the victim. that's like saying a s3xual assault victim is the one at blame because "they were self aware of what was going on and didn't fight back".
that + the fact that groomers and manipulators do NOT let you go easily. they manipulate you into staying by doing the wildest things; in my case, my groomer held suicide over my head and told me he'd kill himself if i left. if you don't understand how these situations work/you've never been on one of these situations, please don't be dismissive and blame the victim. children should be cautious, yes, but no kid wakes up and thinks "oh! what if my good friend on discord is a groomer..?" because groomers don't let their intentions be known since the first interaction...
What an incredible documentary! I’m a victim of doxxing and cyber stalking on discord and this video was such an eye opener and also a comfort. Keep up the amazing work!
@FemonicRBLX who cares pussy
@FemonicRBLX ???
@FemonicRBLX u play roblox shut up
cyber stalking lmao then pack him
what were u doxxed for
This was a great, informative video but oh my god the amount of times you said "soft willy" in a serious deadpan tone with suspenseful music in the background had me rolling
This is exactly why i never go on discord anymore bc of things that are explained in this vid and other things, either way good vid
I hope this gets caught by the algorithm, you put way too much work into this video to go unnoticed
Thanks 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽. It’s been hard work but glad it was worth it. Thanks for supporting!
i click and instantly thought i was getting called lol
Lol
same lol
As someone who’s been threatened with doxxing early when I got on discord I know that not trusting anyone or many people can be good, it can save you…
Just don’t trust people you don’t know or don’t have a relationship with.
Ngl to you, bestie, the beginning call noise made my soul take a stage left out of my body
The phrase 'furry corruption' will never not be funny.
Man I was scrolling through and decided to watch this, and I learned a lot from this video and now I'm gonna be sure it be aware of what is going on in my discord. You've earned my respect and a new subscriber.
Means a lot 🙏🏽
I was groomed and manipulated on Discord in 2022 and when I reported it they did nothing and this "15" year old male is still free on the platform. Makes me sick, knowing that other people have and will experience this.
How old where you and I didn’t know 15 yr olds can groom other teens well unless you where like 8 or 7
@@princeofallgangs6616 he was not 15, he calmed to be but when my friend talked to him he was 17, the same age as her, then we put two and two together.
@@_JJ06 thanks man
@@Error_-jf5hs wow a almost damn near grown men talking to what I assume a 14 or 15 year old because it usually happens to someone younger then them,but damn I’m sorry that happened to you mate and I’m sorry I asked that dumb question!
@@princeofallgangs6616 its fine man, cant trust anyone in this world now a days.
holy crap, this video is dangerously underrated. Not only discord has millions of members, (some likely underaged) . It’s really concerning .
Coming from someone that plays a game called “roblox” there’s so many groups that have to use / require discord and so many people are forced to join in discord to play some RP games.
it’s heavily annoying that discord has SO much power . I haven’t ever gotten discord.
and I never.
will.
As long as I can before I actually have to.
Our privacy ,
Homes,
Safety
Can all be exposed, sold online. Why do you think most older parents are a lot more strict with apps and such?
Because of this, people don’t care, they want money, they don’t stop. They just
Keep
going.
i agree with that
Insanely eye-opening, man. Thank you so much for sharing this with us
Thank you for being here. It means a lot for me too 👌
Its Crazy How underrated this guy is I mean he literally makes videos that would be made with a channel with like 1-10 million subs so huge respect man keep the good work up!
Realllly appreciate that. Hope you can stick around for whats to come!
I run a discord server for my channel and I always have a fear of it going south.
Members getting hacked, potential creeps joining, and all that terrible stuff.
yeah i havent uswed my real name or adress for anything linked to my socials since like 2018-2019 and have moved since then. even so much as not having friends tag me on posts that they are open about themselves and post events that i attended. i havent used my face on most social media and dont link bank account to any of it either. ive hidden myself well but it still wouldnt take a whole lot to find me. awesome video my guy and keep it up!
i was groomed on discord when i was younger. i personally thank you for making this video and raising awareness about internet safety.
i hope the best for you and hope something like that doesn't happen to you again. Pedophiles deserve punishments worse than death.
Damn dude, hope you mentally recovered
Maybe dont be on discord when you are literally under the age of 13, dumbass.
"They store every message ever sent by you"- suprise suprise, thats how forums works... you need to store messsages somewhere to show them to other users.
Standard non-e2e Facebook Messenger chats are also stored in Facebook’s servers for practical reasons. Log in on a new device, and bam-all your conversation history is still there.
Lmao I never knew this wow
And to think that many people share more about their lives on Discord than they do to people they know irl is scary
thank you for providing those cute dog videos during chap 3, it helped cheer me up during a dark topic
Hey, just letting you know the Stanford prison experiment is highly problematic and biased. The results were not actually that significant and were highly influenced. Please look into recent information about this if you’re are interested in using it as an example!!
Other than that, this was a great documentary! Great work
I was thinking that too. haha. Documentary is great but the Stanford prison experiment was basically a fraud.
@@CanteLizzie I knowww agh so tragic it all seemed very polished and well researched other than that
Thanks for letting me know! I actually had no idea, but moving forward, I'll keep that in mind :)
anyone who uses the world "problematic" is often full of shit
@@Sillimant_ the experiment was an ethical error idk what you want them to say man apart from utterly problematic
I got banned on Discord in June of 2020. They said "sent threats to others, participated in targeted harassment, or incited violence against individuals or communities" which is something I would never do. Clyde and Cayde6 were the people who responded to me but never gave any more information.
happened to me to, my account was from 2016 and it got banned for something i didnt do. so fucking mad at that.
@@wtfimcrying same, pretty sure I had nitro and my account was from 2015/2016. Never was in any bad communities or said anything bad, most annoying thing was they banned me without giving me any specifics.
@@wtfimcrying same, got banned for breaking TOS without any specifics. Just straight up banned without any proper communication with the user, great service.
I think I got banned because I was in a server where zoom bombing was happening
Wtf same happened to me in August
I lost my account to that exact reason
I went on and made new accounts each banned within weeks and finally settled on an account I made recently
This happened to all my friends
it was terrible
i don't have any doubts that its more than 1 in 5 people who get creepy messages or unsolicited photos on discord and even other social medias. its a real problem, and it makes me so glad that there are people who catch predators and such and call attention to these things, because my whole life ive felt like i had to be silent about it. like, 'we dont talk about that.' its just the kind of trauma that even other traumatized people dont want to talk about
I’ve been using Discord for a few years now, and my awareness for doxxing has gone up. Even after ehehe the intro go part four, I got this sic, feeling in my stomach. Now, I’m relatively safe on the internet, I don’t usually enter Credit Card information into websites.
I usually only join private discord servers, due to them usually having a higher security threshold than others, but damn, it’s scary.
Fr I got hacked but I got my account back.
Amazing video, learned a lot about an app that I've used DAILY for the past few years. Amazing editing and great work! Keep it up :)
Thanks a lot. Yeah I use discord on the daily too. It was interesting to find out more about it too while I was researching
Oh my god... this is terrifying, people gotta know about this. We need to get discord to change this, not having privacy is.... very terrifying to say the least.
I agree
They aren’t the only ones, they just got caught. You don’t know what sc, ig, Twitter, messenger, etc got going on.
If you think privacy actually exists online, on free platforms. Then I am sorry, but I don't know what to tell you... Freemium is still free.
@@EnsignLovell What's the catch with this freemium
yeah i agree
Guess who's never using discord again.
A good soul just told me about the lack of privacy in this platform. Unbelievable.
Not gonna lie, this is pretty "standard" stuff nowadays. Big corpo selling out their "investors" (customers) because they can, without having to fear backlash and that is the big issue here. It's not just particularly Discord being "bad", although they obviously could and should improve, but much more with people just not caring about things.
What would happen if we suddenly decided to dump Discord? The company would plummit and file bankruptcy within a month. But we don't because there just isn't much of an alternative, since almost everyone uses Discord so there's no point in switching to another platform that people barely use. The ending note of the video summed it up pretty good. Balance.
Whilst yes, we want to use programs like Discord, especially if it's free to use but we should also think about what we pay them instead of money and that's why I think we should pressure such companies more into ensuring that at least basic consumer rights are kept.
There is Guilded
@@mons1117 Which in it's entirety is worthless to me, since none of my friends use it.
I will never understand people, who really think they get a "free" product. There are no fucking free products and there never will be in our monetary system. It just doesn't work that way. It's like asking men to birth babies.
@@Ms_Succubus thats still an option for "suddenly all deciding to dump discord", if everyone moves to guilded, your friends will aswell
if i ever dump discord then yeah, guilded which is basically discord but better in like everyway is what i would go to
I think while discord holds a responsibility, a lot of it falls to the admins and responsibility of the user. I think the maturity of the user defines the problems the user might face, ive been a long time discord user and only run/join servers that are family friendly or nsfw and have strong moderation/enforcement.
I'm not really sure if you can really assign responsibility to Discord as an entity, really. It's too big to police by one entity, and do we even want them "policing" it, really? Like, having admins that can swing into private discords and read your logs because something you said triggered some automated mechanism? I feel like they could do more to warn kids about the dangers, but these are dangers that have always been around on the internet. As a one-time kid when generic aol, web, or even IRC chatrooms were all the craze, we didn't listen. We thought we knew better. We'd never find ourselves in a dangerous situation. Little do we know we're giving our address to people we think we can trust, that we think we've properly vetted as good people. I still remember giving my address to some guy I'd known for a while in a programming chatroom cause he was going to give me a burned copy of his Visual Basic CDs. Thankfully he actually was a cool guy and wasn't a creep, but it could have ended way worse for me, and I considered myself internet smart. Kids today aren't any better, and the safeguards are just as miniscule as its always been, because the only safeguard you have to keep your kid safe is to keep them off the internet altogether. That's pretty much impossible in this day and age though.
@@sirflimflam Yeah, I don't think so either. You wouldn't hold the mailman responsible when you get a fraudulent letter.
A good communications platform should never be able to even read what goes on in 1:1 conversations. Not saying Discord is like that or is even good, but it falls way outside the scope of a communication tool to police private conversations between their users.
@@realEchoz The post office regularly checks packages for suspicious characteristics, so that is not a good analogy
@@corpsefoot758 which is a gross injustice and in violation of your freedom, and im sure discord does the same to some degree
@@corpsefoot758 besides, i think my analogy still holds up, since despite the fact that the postal service randomly violates your privacy, they are not to be held responsible when they choose not to violate your freedom and you receive unwanted or potentially illegal mail
Very educating on internet privacy, amazing editing. I'm surprised you haven't 1mil subs or above.
I found one of my best friends through Discord, I'm sad it's being used to hurt others but it is a great way to connect with people