Don't ever be afraid to do long videos, they are great listening while doing crafts and chores. Ironing, sewing, hand embroidery, folding laundry, rocking the newborn to sleep, etc. I love the long, in depth videos. Thank you for all your studying and passion for the truth of Jesus Christ. God bless you both!
OK. You had alot of ground to cover here, but in general, 85% of the time.... 15 minutes - or LESS. Soooo many people ramble with unnecessary stuff. Mike Winger OVER-explains and goes on and on, as if trying to cover every possible scenario. Which becomes boring. I appreciate getting to the point. I posted about long-windedness on his channel, too. Stick to the 2 most likely scenarios or objections. 15 minutes is enough detail to have "meat". I'd save the 1 hr or longer stuff for a 1-on-1 debate with someone. Otherwise, if it goes over 15 minutes, recommend a book.
Jesus is King! 👑🩵💕🦋💕🩵 Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead three days later. Repent and believe in him as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved! God bless! 🩵💕🦋💕🩵 💕🌸🌺Romans 10:9-11 KJV 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 🌺🌸💕❤
I'm so happy for you being a Christian ,part of my family is a former Jehovah's witness and Catholic . I wish they would repent and become a protestant Christian I'm working on helping them become that but they are sceptical.
My dad called himself a Christian when I was still an atheist, but he called himself a buffet/cafeteria Christian, so he would have been under the "pop Christian" umbrella. When I was saved I was excited and went to talk to my dad about it, but he had already left Christianity altogether. I pray for him almost every day now.
Keep praying for him. I know someone had to be praying for you. I pray your dad will truly be saved. I don't believe anyone is truly saved believing in the goodness, grace and mercy of God and His love and Jesus our Savior and then walks away. Reminds me of the Parable of the Sower (seed that fell on rocky soil perhaps?). Anyway, as long as he has breath, he has an opportunity to really come into a loving relationship with the Father and our Savior. Don't give up because I know God sure hasn't! 🙏🙂
My cousin (a devout Roman Catholic) married the son of German immigrants, who converted to Catholicism. When she died, my brothers and I all came home for the funeral. The priest told us that she was in Purgatory and, if we desired, he could show us how to help shorten her time there. Herman was not pleased; if, after all she had done, including thousands of dollars given to that church, she wasn't in Heaven? He left the church and became mostly agnostic. His daughter started dating a friend of mine who was called to the ministry. He invited Herman to come for his first sermon. Herman thanked him for the invitation but declined. However, when Mike got up to the pulpit that Sunday evening, he saw Herman sitting in the back. Long story short, Herman responded to the invitation and Mike and the pastor led him to Christ. A few months later, he was dead. Never give up hope: as long as there is life, there's hope.
@@jeffmartinek9969 The cults actually believe that they are correct. That’s the problem. Yes, they choose not to investigate further. But they have gone so far down the road that they have deceived them selves into thinking that they are correct.
@@lovegod8582 there is fear taught to them from day one. Those who were born into Mormon families have been taught this their entire life. That they have the truth & all other religions are from the devil. They believe that Christians have a piece of the truth & that they have the full truth.
I was definitely in the progressive Christianity mindset. I was no longer going to church or reading my Bible rather I was falling into following the social media/culture crowd idk what else to call it. I was seeing other “Christians” being open and saying they’re ok with abortions and lgbtq etc. So it got me thinking and following the same mindset of, ‘you know what, it’s the 20th century people change everything changes’ and God is a loving God who, if He were here today, how could or why would He deny these people/groups if He is a loving God. It got me into thinking that you know what, I am attracted to the same sex and maybe I am part of these groups. I didn’t see it as what it really was; myself struggling with sin, with temptation and confusion. And I starting to think maybe everyone else feels the same, attraction to the opposite sex even if they don’t claim to be a part of the lgbtq community. Turns out I was the one making it all up in my head and telling myself what God would and wouldn’t approve of. As Pastor Mike said, after all “Jesus Loves” , “God is love” is what us pop Christians think of. I’ve stumbled across Pastor Allen Parr’s videos recently and my goodness has he helped me open my eyes! I was going down into this dark, deep path and if it weren’t for the content he creates I probably wouldn’t be here commenting on this video right now. For some background, I was raised into the Catholic Church community. I never KNEW Jesus. All I ever know was Mary and the saints. I never knew we could pray to Jesus. I as well only ever prayed to Mary. We had statues and pictures of “Mary”. I was only baptized and therefore couldn’t receive communion which made me feel sad, left out, and like I was going to purgatory or hell. Until I was older (early 20’s) and felt lost and my friend invited me to a Christian church, then I was introduced to scripture and everything about Christianity. I kept attending and eventually got baptized (which my family was furious and literally afraid for me). Shortly after, we moved across country when my husband joined the military and that’s when we stopped attending church etc. Now I’m so very grateful to have stumbled across Allen Parr’s Channel and I have now started reading my Bible in plans of finding truth, and giving myself to God fully. With all that said, please pray for me and my family so that we don’t get distracted and go down the wrong road again. 🙏🏽
Same story as you but I'm the military member and retiring next year. Keep reading the Bible and studying church history. At one point of my life I Couldn't be any further from the Catholic church and now it's been 3 weeks since my confirmation and it's the closest I've ever felt to Jesus. I love videos like these from Mike, Allen, pastor david Lynn, ray comfort and others that challenge me in my walk as a Catholic. Praying for you in your journey and that you one day will make it back home ❤️. God bless.
God be with you child of God. I too grew up in the routine up snd down of Catholic church. A coworker gave me a bible... I was addicted to the Word and it changed me and I am a Jesus Freak and can think of doing nothing but share His agape love, forgiveness and salvation. My birth family and siblings are hardcore Catholics. Purgatory, praying for the dead, and cantonized saints, for obsession with Mary and so on... I at 7 yrs old didnt get it went to Catholic grade school. Wicked nuns telling me i was going to hell for asking why do we pray to dead ppl and not straight to God?? 🤔 I love and cry for joy when speaking to the Holy Spirit, reading my bible. He is my protector in behavior, guides me in all situations. Stay true to Jesus via the truth in the bible. Satan will attack you in your walk. Ask Jesus to be with you and know he protects you. Faith = Truth / Fear is the Liar; the deceiver but at the end GOD WINS. And we can relish in His greatness and glory. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and have peace. Love and prayers over you and your family. Your family should delight in your faith. Bible is our Fathers life guide. And an insight to His righteous and Love to us His Children. 🤗🙌😌
I'm so happy you found peace again. I'm Catholic, I was saved by God about a year ago and had a compelling to read the word of God. Within a year I consumed the Bible and found greater understanding. I thought I was following a false religion for a time due to so much Christian content on social media telling me that I prayed falsely but I prayed to God and asked for understanding and guidance. "For whomever is not against us is for us" Mark 9 38-41 I enjoy my local mass service. I have faith in the Holy Spirit, that God is with us all and guiding us all to betterment. God bless you ❤
Jesus is King! 👑🩵💕🦋💕🩵 Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead three days later. Repent and believe in him as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved! God bless! 🩵💕🦋💕🩵 💕🌸🌺Romans 10:9-11 KJV 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 🌺🌸💕❤
While in Ukraine, our church center in Kiev was about less than a minute from JW building. By the grace of Jesus, we have a lunch ministry where on weekdays, we served about 150 people daily (mostly elderly & the poor because of the war). Some JW members also came to eat while trying to share their materials with others. So we told them that while they can certainly eat here, they have to do their JW stuff outside of this building.
This was so enlightening that I can barely express it. I'm 74 and have been an evangelical Christian most of my life. This was extremely important in this world. God richly bless you both!
I grew up SDA, went to SDA schools and college. I have to tell you that Ellen White isn't as big of an influence as she was in years gone by. She wrote such a huge amount of books and articles, that only the most die hard SDA is even aware of much of what she wrote. I know I wasn't. I think the leadership that heads the denomination, is aware that some of her writings are problematic, and probably sweep that under the rug so as not to rock the boat. When these things were brought to my attention several years ago, and I decided to look into it myself, I decided to leave the church. I'm now an evangelical, which was a very easy transition, because as you pointed out, most of the core Adventist beliefs align with the Bible.
2 - 29 - 24 My friend MOST of Adventism does not align with the Bible That's the reason why you left and became an Evangelical because now you PREACH/ SPREAD the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ Seventh day Adventists DO NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments Thank you for sharing your testimony ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
I grew up SDA and went to grade thru Academy SDA schools And read all EGWhites books in later years. I was in and out of the church, EGW was understood and followed more in 1800s. They were rooted in Methodist and Freemason beliefs and ideologies I learned after much Bible and Historical studies. Saddened me. The Whites have high level Masonic gravestones in Battle Creek Michigan. Can be found online. Thank y of u for this video
I really look for the 'meat & potatoes Bible Studies' at my age!! Nothing just simple! Loved this covering of 6 religion areas! The Pop Christian churches rarely do anything for me - as it's all way too shallow, often doesn’t agree with Biblical Principles, Info & Truths of Scriptures! Its like infant milk vs food. Tried SDA for 6 full years & at 1st loved learning Truth on Sabbath Keeping starting Fri night - Saturday sundown (not proper on Sundays - POPE changed it to Sunday = NOT GOD) but during my last 3 years, I got so tired of their own heavy ideas on End Times, & tho Originally SDA started from Methodist leaders - it was hard especially on their pushing E G White & how highly EGW's been exalted with her massive amounts of writings since 1844 = more so than even the Holy Bible [ No way!! ] SDA views on hell & not much time on any spiritual gifts - that I just couldn't accept all that vs True Biblical Words! Also they think they are the only Remnants because of their Sabbath Keeping & keeping Dietary Laws of vegetarian eating (but they eat WAY too much SOY & alternative foods tho - IMHO) Had I not deeply studied Bible for over 50 yrs by then - I'd maybe have just gone along... without Holy Spirit Wisdom leading me. In the Catholic arena - POPES take on WAY Too Much Power & Authority - YET THEY DO NOT Reign Supreme above our SUPREME KING YESHUA/ JESUS & GOD! [Tho it appears they may THINK they are higher than GOD ALMIGHTY!] NEITHER do the Saints they regularly pray to = NOT Scriptural ! Instead OUR PRAYERS are to be said From us Directly 🙏 PRAYING through our SAVIOR King YESHUA/JESUS NAME to Our ABBA FATHER GOD! Yup - it is True! No mediator except King Yeshua/Jesus is needed!!! Pennances ? = NOT Scriptural! Purgatory ? = NOT Scriptural! Mother Mary always a virgin ? = Not Scriptural Mary gave a miraculous birth to Yeshua /Jesus as a virgin bride, with GOD as HIS Holy Father! Later though both Mary & Husband Joseph the carpenter together had several more children as JESUS's 1/2 brothers & sisters - including at least James, Joses & 2 un-named sisters, maybe even 2 more brothers! Yeah Im still a Sabbath Keeper & learning our Hebrew Old Testament Truths pointing YESHUA as Our Messiah fulfillment in New Testament !! Lots to digest & you both did an excellent job covering 6 religion areas! WAS Surprised this was put out years ago... in June 2021. Thank you!! A Timeless Message ... Now July 2024
"True Christianity doesn't look like me at all. It's constantly making me change; Jesus confronting me." - Thanks for having Mike Winger on. Great intellect!
@Mike Flanagan That's news to me, Mike, but who are the Seventh-day Adventists that freely admit that the seventh day Sabbath of the Bible is a "shadow of things to come and not of the reality." SUCH Seventh-day Adventist need more studies as to what the Bible teaches and what is taught by authentic Seventh-day Adventist teachers on this subject. No genuine, correctly informed SDA teaches such error. Sheep in wolves clothing, calling themselves SDA might do that. For those who do not understand the big deal about the need to keep the correct Sabbath I'll just share this: Within the fourth commandment of the Ten, as given in the Protestant Bible, in Exodus 20 is identified who God is (the Creator God), the territory over which He rules, (heaven and earth), and why He has the authority to rule over us. (He made us) He has expressly told us in many places in Scripture how we should worship Him, when we should worship Him, why we should, where we should worship Him. He also told us what would be the result of disobeying any of the directives in these respects. There is NO evidence of any change in His directives. Neither Christ nor His disciples mentioned or practiced any change. He has warned us particularly that in the end time that a power would arise teaching contrary to these directives and warned us of the serious repercussions of following that power's directives rather than following His. That power directs/dictates Sunday worship instead of Sabbath worship. So the crucial matter is whose directives are we going to OBEY? God's or man's. Whose you OBEY shows where your LOYALTY IS. If you CHOOSE man over God then you are violating the First commandment which says: "Thou shalt have no other God's before me." All who choose another authority besides God will receive their mark of destruction, for they worship another God and not The CREATOR God. You may appreciate learning about how Sunday worship came into being in the Christian Church. Just Google the documentary: REVELATION: The Bride, the Beast and Babylon Be blessed in your search for Bible truth.
@Mike Flanagan Again Mike, the Sabbath being a shadow of things is simply YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION of the statement given in SDA Fundamental Beliefs. That is NOT at all what the statement says. Above All, it is NOT at all what the Bible says. The Sabbath is a sign, a symbol of our sanctification--of our being holy unto the Lord, a set apart people for His use in this wicked world, fit to live with holy beins in a holy place, Heaven. We will be celebrating the Sabbath in Heaven and on the earth made new. The very same cycle will be observed. Isaiah 6622, 23 tell us that. Read it for yourself: "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, sixth the Lord." Strongly asserting that something is true is not enough; bring forth the evidence or hold your peace. Instead you bring an essay that in no way support your assertions.
@Mike Flanagan Give Scriptural backing for your claim that the Lord Himself started Sunday sabbath sacredness. Don't bear false witness against your neighbor and definitely NOT against God! Instead embrace and love God's holy Sabbath which begins every Friday evening at sunset wherever you may live. It ends on Saturday evening at sunset; twenty-four hours of Sacred time, the BEST time of the week! Enjoy it!
What an amazing collaboration! You guys work so well together - you allowed each other space to talk without interruptions. Such respect was shown on both sides. Thank you for bringing these truths to the world.
Mike & Allan that was sure a lengthy video but it was worth every second of it. Yes do a follow up collaboration. I love you guys for your thorough biblical knowledge & love for Christ.
Exactly.. its such a desert out here for thorough, biblically sound discussion. These collaborations are healing and encouraging in a world of division.
I don't think you call Allan's biblical knowledge "thorough". The man has a self confident attitude and slick production values and he speaks well. None of that, however, is substance. Allan is 100% appearance. His actual biblical analysis and exegesis is severely questionable to put it loosely. Although I have nothing personally against him, I put him in the same category as a Joel Osteen. They both use Christianity as a theme for entertainment shows. They are not theologians, they are actors portraying pastors. I will eat my hat if either of them has actually provided Biblically sound pastoral care to anybody in the past 5 years. Nothing they do is for or about God. They just use God to make money.
@Patrick Barnes why so critical? They have two completely different communication and teaching styles - and both are valuable for varying audiences. The content on Mike Winger's channel is more in depth, but it's specifically to teach us to think biblically about everything. We need all kinds of teachers and I personally value what each of these men bring to people who long to grow in Christ. God bless you 💜
I am brought as a Catholic, but with God:s grace I believe the truth about the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In 2011 I was saved. To God be the glory 🙏❤️
I feel like a kid when I first watched "the Flinstones meet the Jetsons." haha, love that my fave TH-camrs are together! Thank you both for what you do.. it has blessed me SO much.
@@Nancy-fm1ie My sincerest apologies, sister Nancy. I have to agree with you. We MUST give respect to our elders in the faith, as the Good Book instructs us. History is a sorely needed subject. I'm thinking myself of starting a Church history class to get folks from different denominational backgrounds together to look at the mistakes of the past, so that we don't make them again!
As a former SDA member for 30 years, I can tell you that there are many flaws in the denomination. Though not one denomination is perfect and not one person is perfect, is why I lean on the Bible for ALL inspiration, doctrine and teachings. The Holy Spirit is the one in charged to give us discernment to interpret Scripture.
I feel this to the core. I was raised in the SDA church. However, I was taught fear. I was saved 3 years ago, at 43 years old because I finally understood what was done on the cross. I have found discernment is KEY.
I so appreciate the privilege of reaping the benefits of this joint project; from detailed explanations to boiled-down highlights, Winger and Parr have enriched and better equipped us to lovingly wield the Truth that will set the prisoners free. Thank you, gentlemen, for your diligent study of the Scriptures and the extra-biblical sources that help frame the information we both internalize and disseminate, and for continuing to bring high quality and relevant content to your platforms.
@@minterbell 11 - 25 - 21 Your church is FAKE NOT ONCE have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ Mr. Biblically illiterate ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ DEATH BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 you said that my church is fake? 😆😆😆 excuse me, i do not own any church. the church that i belong to is the church of God in the bible that Jesus as the head and the apostles were also called in the same church i am in too. saying it is fake is absolute ignorance of the bible. 😄😆😄 and why did you mention about spreading the good news? are we going now to that topic? you seem to be not in order. 😄
@@minterbell 12 - 17 - 21 You are the one JUDGING people on these threads telling them that they are wrong because they are NOT part of your religion DENOMINATION
Well I am at 2024 and it is very relevant in this present day. Thank you both for this teaching and faithfulness. I have followed Mike for years and now subscribed to Allen Parr.
I loved this video, I learned a lot! I am new to my walk with Christ after leaving as a teenager. To me, this pop Christianity you speak about sounds the same as the New Age Jesus! I was heavily in the new age myself for years so I recognized it. Their view of Jesus is he’s an ascended master basically, not the only path to God, and he definitely doesn’t judge your choices lol. Melissa Dougherty made a video about it. It’s definitely a pervasive problem, especially when you have celebrities clearly calling themselves Christians and not living it. Gives the wrong impression to unbelievers. Thank you ♥️
I agree also. Basically all Pop Christianity is Ancient Gnosticism...achieving Salvation of the Mind.There is nothing New about the New Age. "What was will be again..there is nothing New under the Sun."(Ecclesiastes 1:9)
He said “I could talk about this all day” . Please Id love to hear and learn. If u talk all year, I’ll be here my brother. And thank you. I am so blessed to have found your channel
When I was in my young 20s I studied with JWs. You had to study, go thru tests and go door to door. My poor husband on our 1st Christmas got our tree and decorated it. On Christmas Eve I gave up, went Christmas shopping for the family. I was looking for God. I talked with Mormans a few times. Finally when I was 26 a friend asked me to a new church and I FINALLY heard the Gospel!! Too bad it was a super fundamental church, cared more on the outside appearance instead of the heart. Was out of church for a while and finally found a good one that teaches the Gospel and we are involved in all kinds of help to the community. This past Easter 115 were saved. We had 4 different services. That's good for me, I go on Sat at 5 pm. It's a large church but not a large church. They teach all books of the Bible each year in classes thru the year. We have Life Groups-Im in a ladies divorces group. We do fun things but also help out where needed in the church. We have prayer groups once a week and before each service. I just found yalls site today and I love it. Praise God.❤🙏
I was in the Mormon church for 11 years. We were also told not to google the church. It was only when an evangelist shared the true gospel with me that my eyes were opened.
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 ESV And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14 ESV It seems like pretty clear teaching that the Word WAS God, and the Word was God the Son. Also, we do technically believe that you don't HAVE to keep the Ten Commandments, mainly because only God can, and salvation is not earned by works(Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 11:6, multiple other places). We do try to keep them, and you also, unless you are God, which you aren't, have failed to keep the Ten Commandments. Also, I'm not sure why I would believe you anyway, considering that your username claims that you are lies. You can keep rejecting God if you want, but you're just going to suffer for eternity. Don't try to pull others into that fate.
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 No, God did not say he was created. You just made that up. He says there was no god formed before him. You just, I don't know, forgot to read the words "no" and "nor."
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 For the "soul" verse, why did you put in parentheses "body" next to "soul?" If it's the same word in Hebrew, then it probably means soul, not body. If not, then you're making it up. As for "heart," it's a figure of speech. If I say "You are making my heart hurt," do you think I mean that you gave me a heart attack? No, it either means you made me sad or I love you, depending on the context. As for the men, why do you assume that God would have to defecate after eating? He literally made everything from nothing, and you think he couldn't defy human bodily functions? Also, it's HUMAN bodily functions, so obviously God wouldn't need them. Oh and also, why would it matter? Let's get serious here. You are blinded by your hatred of God. You might not think you hate God, but you basically couldn't misinterpret some of those verses worse. I can't get out of the English Bible yet, because I don't know Hebrew, though I've been meaning to try to learn it. And guess what? Most people don't know Hebrew either. Shocker.
To Pas Allen and Pas Mike... MAHALO PLENTY for all you do. The longer videos are THE BEST!!!!! I listen on my job, while cooking, while driving, and more! My husband, son and I have discussions around the long videos. People have many, many options for short videos. The internet is loaded with shorts, short vids, etc. The students, the thinkers, the workers, the debaters... WE LOVE THEM. DO MORE! 🙏🏼🕊
You both did an excellent job!! I found Mike’s channel years ago and its been a blessing!!Pray that someone’s heart was opened to the truth of God and His Son Jesus Christ!! Keep standing on the wall!! MayGod continue to bless and favor you and your ministries!
This has been so helpful to me after just leaving Jehovah’s Witnesses. Thank you and God Bless your efforts. Keep on preaching Scripture! I just wish I could get my hands on that interlinear Bible. I used to have it. Another good book to read is by Raymond Franz. Crisis Of Conscience. He was part of the governing body for nine years.!
What a blessing to have found this site! I have studied with so many different denominations and the majority of the major religious groups only to find deception in each of them! I love my family and friends and want them to understand the"Why, When,Who,and most importantly the truth of Gods word! I could never explain as clearly as you both have in this awesome video why there are so many different denominations and yet all claim to be Christian! You both have rebooted my faith and love of the Lord! Bless you both for helping people to understand and navigate through the maze of false or altered Christianity! I'm writing as you speak so I hope you will be exposing the motivational, feel good speakers that tickle the ears of their flock! Bless you both!
Glad they have helped you rebooted your Faith. You should actually rely more on God . These men have no prophetic and apostolic authority. They misinterpret God's words as well and though their deceptions are not obviously intentional, they too are deceivers as they do not have the truth. They are leaning on their own understanding which is carnal. God's dealings are all spiritual and they can't fathom that. Everything is about what the human mind tells them. The Pharisees and Sadducees have something in common with them. They rejected everything Jesus taught that was not in the 5 Books of Moses. Just like them rejecting anything that they don't understand in the Bible. God never told us that all his revelation was in the Bible. The Bible have been corrupted and it started with the Catholic church who kept some of the books away from the masses and changed and added many things. The evangelical community are as lost as the ones they criticize except the one that has the only direct line of authority which is the one and only true church Jesus created. When it comes to your salvation, don't risk anything with what you hear except trust God and seek answers through prayer to him so he can set you on the right path. God warned us about false preachers and y'all accept and believe them as it makes sense to your flesh. The Catholics and the Evangelical communities are the biggest false churches and believers. There is NO UNITY in their doctrines, teachings or belief system, but yet they only point fingers at the ones that they put outside and reject as Christians. It should make sense to your spirit because the Gospel is spiritual. No human philosophies can match it. Don't risk believing something against the only true church that it is a cult when it actually isnt. Jesus was falsely accused of being the devil because he was teaching outside of the 5 Books of Moses which the Jews only accepted. Seek confirmation from God through sincere prayer and listen for the answers from the Holy Spirit that teaches the only truth. The Bible isn't the only book that God gave us. The Bible actually says out of the mouth of 2-3 witnesses shall every word be established. Pray about it, read it before you falsely judge it.
Hello, I am a PK raised in a non-denominational Christian church. I was baptized at the young age of 13 and had an innocent zeal for the Lord. One thing my father taught me was to always search for the truth. So, in college I took a religion course, where I found out later the professor was an atheist (go figure). 🥴 We discussed several religions, where the eyes of my understanding were opened wide and my belief in Christ was solidified. After that class and certain life experiences, I rededicated my life to Christ as a young adult with a better understanding of my relationship with God through Christ. One thing that stuck with me in that class is the idea of divine beings existing as trinities or triads long predating Christianity. 😮 🤔 In that class we took a deep dive into Catholicism/Constantine, which were not founded on the principles of Christ. All Christian denominations came from Catholicism, which is a whole other topic of discussion, which Mike touched upon briefly. Consequently, I don’t believe the Most High and Christ called their church Christianity. The Bible reads in the book of Acts 11:26 The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. Christ just said he was the way back to our Heavenly Father, so follow him. Christ only did what the Most High commanded him to do! I believe the Bible is the truth. I also believe that the powers of this world removed books from the Bible, because they are relevant (ie., The Book of Jasher - referenced in Joshua 10:12-13, 2 Samuel 1:18-27, and 2 Timothy 3:8). All that said, I agree with most of your points. One question to you is if Christ is God, then how can he be the example for me to follow? Christ continuously stated he was doing the will of his Father. He even said on the cross, “Father, why has thou forsaken me”. (Matthew 26:47) Was Christ actually saying, why have I forsaken myself?🤔 That’s all I have. 🤪 I pray that God continues to bless you and keep you in His perfect peace!
Um, be careful with that term. It's far more dangerous than you think! YT channels Center for Biblical Unity and All the Things have a lot of info on the woke church 😟😞😢
Ikr. It can definitely be comparable to the "woke church" and it's extremely popular now too. Kinda like what he's saying too like the ones who act New Agey. It's so dangerous.
Alan, I just wanted to tell you that what you’re doing here on TH-cam is a blessing to me. I am glad that you are in lighting me with things to look out for. You are so right in so many levels. Like Elevation Church I used to enjoy listening to him Mr. Steven Furtick until y’all made it clear about how he directs everything towards his family and himself and I caught that after it was brought to my attention. Thank you again and keep up all the good work that you’re doing. You are a blessing to society. Thank you.
This was is an in depth, informative blessing. It is a wonderful study of how to love and pray for family and friends, in knowing in detail, their beliefs and traditional doctrines. This is so necessary and all these doctrines and belief needed to be lengthy and not rushed through, so we can reach people for Almighty God's Kingdom and Biblical Truths. God Bless you both 🙏🙏
@Jacob Posego I know you will refuse to answer any of the 8 questions---There is NO Scripture to prove your opinions.----- #1--Where in scripture is there any verses that states GOD RESTED-----BLESSED & --Made holy Sunday,the first day of the week?????????? #2---IF--I say again--IF the Sabbath was changed--why did Christ NOT tell anyone---His disciples? #3--IF----IF the Sabbath was changed--why did Christ NOT tell HIS followers????? #4---If the Sabbath was changed, why did the Phaisees NOT know about it????? #5----Why was there nothing in prophesy in the OT about a change????? #6---Which part of the BIBLE says "Mary was sinless"? #7--Which part of the BIBLE says "full of grace = sinless"? #8---Which part of the BIBLE says "Mary was free from Original Sin"?
@@minterbell quote----i am talking about the 2 guys on the video. they do not understand what they preach. they just rely on their OWN thinking.--unquote------ Really?What are you doing? The Same--opinions---PROVE your opinions with FACTS---scripture!!!!
Seriously! Just discovered Allen Parr about a week ago (I think actually it was somehow obliquely through a Mike Winger video), and they are just wonderful men of God doing such an important ministry!!
Many thanks Allen & Mike!!! Very intuitive video. It has been important for me to know about more of other doctrines and beliefs. I went from being born into Catholicism to LDS for two years until a little over 2 years ago . I’m so thankful that I was challenged to read the New Testament as a child by a Baptist Pastor. I happy to say after several months and getting my name off the LDS records I was baptized at our local Baptist Church. I’ve been watching you both for months and will keep watching. Thanks again my two brothers and God Bless you both and your ministry. Amen 🙏🏻
I testify to you that the day will come where you will have the biggest regret by allowing yourself to be deceived where you leaned unto your own understanding and the deception of satan led you astray into the false church that have no direct line of prophetic and apostolic authority. Jesus organized his 1 true church and it must have the Priesthood Authority, a Prophet and 12 Apostles. Where is that in your new found false church? It can all be tested against all scriptures, even the Bible. The Bible is God's dealings with 1 group of people. God dealt with many more. There are 12 tribes and the same gospel must be taught to everyone so they can be judged the same when that time comes. You ever wonder why satan is working so hard to persecute the true church that Jesus created because there is none other. I pray you will find your way back to the Church of Jesus Christ and not the one created by men named after them. There are many who are finding their way back as they got distracted by the world and walked away from the covenanted path and the iron rod to that spacious building where the deceiver lives. I pray you will ask the new church you joined to explain how they inherited the authority from the 12 apostles that Jesus called and gave them power. That power must be passed to the next. It cannot be assumed. There must be a literal transfer. Just because someone picks a specific part of the Bible that they preached on that you weren't familiar with doesn't lend to them being recognized by God. The Scriptures already told us that the false preachers will also quote and read from the Bible and they will be convincing if you don't seek answers from God. The devil is very cunning and crafty. Don't rely on what makes sense to your flesh which is how the devil operates. Praying for you as I know you want to be right with God. Human beings makes mistakes everyday. God is forgiving when we do. He's not the author of the 46,000 different Christian denominations. Jesus only created 1 church and there is unity all around the globe.
@@jeffmartinek9969 It actually started as a derogatory label. This was then adopted as a badge of honour. I agree that a Christian is a follower of Christ. And this is rather simple. I’m not sure why you need to complicate it.
@@dianetigert1310 I know right... most churches I’ve been to encourage that non repentance so called sinners prayer, the modern day Christian church of today 🙄
@@lionoffireministries ye are of your father the devil when he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it (john 8:44) The WICKED flee when nl man pursueth but the RIGHTEOUS are bold as a lion (proverb 28:1) (Romans 9:13) jacob have i loved but Esaw have i hated
Can somebody please make a Video about Ethiopian orthodox Christians because their bible is made up of 88 books and and it has more than 80 million followers 😳 and they claim its a 1000 years old religion
Thank you. This word was SO for me. Thank you Jesus!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾 This word from the Lord us confirmation. God bless you and thank you for your ministry ❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽
That was fabulously valuable and well-done, gentlemen! So worth the time. Thank you so much! I was unfamiliar with y'all, but have noticed superior TH-cam "suggestions" since I started watching The Chosen : ) Yay, Jesus!!!
I'm a Adventist and I've been going to the SDA church for 15+ years. I want to kindly comment on the portion of the video about the SDA. 1.) On the E.G.White and her interpretations forming the doctrine of the church. Well first SDA's got the Sabbath teaching from the Seventh Day Baptists, which was studied by Joseph Bates. E.G.White accepted the sabbath and several years after that got a vision on that topic. About the Hell, SDA's were influenced by the Methodist preacher George Storrs. About the unique SDA doctrine the sanctuary it was studied by Hiram Edson and others. The investigative jugment came just by understanding the sanctuary. So the primary SDA doctrines are not given by vision from E.G.White but are know through bible study by various people. 2.) About the mark of the beast. Evangelicals today believe mainly in futurism, rapture, third temple etc. This teaching was popularized by John Nelson Darby. Before that almost all protestants believed that papacy is the antichrist like Luther for example. After 1844 evangelicals slowly abandoned the historicist prophecy interpretation, probably to distance themselves from the SDA. 3.) About the 10 commandments, well they are found in the ark of the covenant. So if you understand the sanctuary you'll find the law in the very center.
Right under the mercy seat, guarded by Cherubim. You lot never give up. That would be a good thing, if you loved the truth. Never mind your traditions, what is St. Paul saying in Romans about the Law? This is the meat and potatoes of the Christian faith. You all love the salad bar.
Thank you so much Allen & Mike! Have the highest respect for both of you! God bless & continue to use you to rescue lost souls but also teaching all of us to know our Lord as best as we could. His Lordship & His Word. These 2 principles are indeed the ground we must stand on & uphold. ❤️👍🏽
28:40: "Does that make Jesus a Trumpet?"🤣! // This might be the most helpful lesson I've ever received in all my 54yrs. Thank you both SO SO VERY MUCH!! What a ginormous blessing!!!
Have these guys ever used the term "Replacement Theology" ? Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) 10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
😂 a 2 hour video with Mike Winger is NOT a short video compared to his others. I love Mike and his thoroughness, but I appreciate getting to the point as well. :)
Great Stream Allen and Mike Winger! You knocked it out park! Loved the insights you guys made about these groups. May the Holy Spirit continue to Minister Joy, Truth, and compassion!
The spirit is also for teaching the bible and if you throw out a saturday sabbath you follow the Roman Catholic Pope a Dope and follow Rome and not scripture. From what I know these fellows are not obeying god in the sabbath doctrine and are semilawless in their practice based on their channels content that I have seen thus far. The sabbath predates the law.
@@tralfazruk1 12 - 17 - 21 Hello Mr. Investigative Judgement #1 Are your sins BLOTTED out ? Yes....or.....No.... #2 How come NOT ONCE on ANY of these threads have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? #3 Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED paid in FULL sins BLOTTED out FINAL payment paid in FULL ? Yes.....or.....No..... #4 Are you on Probation ? Yes... or.....No... #5 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ ? #6 Have ANY of your Seventh day Adventist literature Seventh day Adventist authorities Seventh day Adventist Theologians have EVER said that the writings of Ellen G White are EQUAL with the Holy Bible of God's word ? Yes.....or......No.... #7 Are the writings of Ellen G White AS indelibly AS the LAW of God written by his finger upon the tables of stone ? Yes.....or......No..... #8 Did Ellen G White EVER PROMOTE having a CHRISTMAS TREE on CHRISTMAS DAY in EVERY SINGLE Seventh day Adventist church ? Yes......or......No..... #9 Does Adventism MIMIC Catholicism in any way.....? Yes.....or......No. #10 Does Adventism MIMIC Mormonism in any way ? Yes......or......No..... ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY! ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
I'm a Christian but one of my closest friends is a Hebrew Israelite. After he came back from a 4 year tour in Iraq, he had become a man with a mixture of emotions. First Allen is very correct about their biblical knowledge. His sect mainly focuses on the Old Testament, but they do read the New Testament to try and discredit Jesus's divine power and all he did and died for. I'm probably more knowledgeable in the Old Testament, but I'm still studying to strengthen my New Testament knowledge ( help me to grow Lord); however him and one of his Hebrew Israelites wanted to debate me for over an hour; and we were at my boy's BBQ. When they wouldn't stop, I had move on. So for his sect of Hebrew Israelites, they hold a lot anger towards whites, and even black Christians that don't share their views. Even saw a couple of them go out their way to buy two pictures of a painting of White Jesus and stomp and crush them. Not all Hebrew Israelites are the same like Allen said, but the ones in my city(OKC) show a lot of animosity towards whites it's a shame.. Sometimes whites have even tried to approach them and ask why they have anger to them, and they'll cuss at them and say disrespectful terms to them. I've heard biracial blacks ask them questions about how God views their white parents, man; they're not respectful at all. As far my boy, they've changed his views about race so much it's a shame. His mother even Asked me to talk to him, but he won't budge. He even refuses to go to the good old Baptist Church he was raised in because he thinks black Churches have been blinded.. With that being said I want to give love to all my Christian brothers from every race. My teenage daughters are biracial (black and white) and they attend my Life church in OKC, and my home Church ( First AME), and they love both them..🙏👍 On another note, after my divorce, I met a nice looking woman who tried to lure me into their ideology but I couldn't do it. I really liked her but I felt like the holy Spirit was warning to stay away from her. I didn't want to end up like King Solomon and worshipping a false religion..
If the blood of Christ is the sacrifice for our sins and Hebrew Israelites follow Old Testament law not accepting Christs blood sacrifice as he hadn’t yet died for our sins then. Do Hebrew Israelites sacrifice?
@@johnfoster5489 Scholars know that the Essene Jesus did not believe in separation of the spirit from the body after death. Paul Adopted that Idea from the Egyptians and Greeks. He tacked those Ancient Ideas on to Deifying Jesus as a Pagan Idol so that more Greeks would accept the Idea of Deifying Jesus through Christianity to set up the Luciferian Vatican. In Hebrew, in Judaism, in Jewish History, the story of Issac is not a foreshadowing of sacrifice. Why? Simply because of Mistranslation: Issac was brought "TO" the altar, he was not "PUT ON" the altar. Isaiah, Psalms, Jeremiah were Mistranslated from their Real Meaning. Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 are not proof texts. Pagan Paul was no more "Jewish" than Justin Bieber is Amish. The book of Revelation was written about the Destruction of the Jewish Temple. It only became a Prophetic book after the French Revolution. The Old Testament forbids Eschatology, Demonology and Witchcraft, that is why Christians mostly focus on the New Testament. The practice of digging up "Saints" who have "incorrupted bodies" is an Ancient practice that went from Egyptians to Buddhist monks to Catholics to the Voodoo priests. The "Christian" Catholics don't know or respect the Old Testament, so they don't know that digging up a corpse and putting it on display and praying to it is Ancient Witchcraft, because Christians follow Justin Bieber type Paul. Christians don't worship God. They follow the Ancient Pagan Heathen Rituals of an Amalgamation of Paul's Visions. Paul never knew Jesus and the Essene Jesus would have hated the Idea of Wifeless Priests. This goes against the Old Testament. If Christians talked to a Literate Scholar, they would realize that Attaching the New Testament to the Old Testament is not only Antisemitic, it's not "A Prophecy". It's a Cult that Disobeys God and the teachings of Jesus.
@@johnfoster5489 THE ANSWER IS IN MAT 1:21 Jesus (YAHAWASHAI) came to save his people who we know are ISRAEL. Only Israel was promised a reedemer because only Israel broke the law given to them. DUET 28:15. so christ came and died for Israel because Israel broke the law. so we do accept and are careful not to presumptuously sin because the value we place on the sacrifice made by YAHAWASHAI. it says this in Hebrews 10:26 If we deliberately go on sinning after we have receive.........and we know sin is trangression of the law1st john 3:4 AND YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL IF YOU CONTINUE SINNING1st JOHN 3:8
IT TOOK US YEARS AND STUDYING GOD'S WORD TO UNDERSTAND THAT "RELIGIONS ARE SLAVERY, BUT CHRISTIANITY IS FREEDOM". WE NEED JESUS CHRIST......PLUS NOTHING ELSE TO SAVE US. 6/12/21
@@ker7508 Where in the gospels did Jesus found a church? When he said "On this rock I will build my church" doesn't count because it's future tense meaning it looks forward and you can't say he built the Catholic church as the Holy Spirit because the spirit is described as a guide for the apostles not the apostle; Peter, Paul and the rest aren't Jesus or the Holy Spirit. Besides Peter and Paul had theological disagreements therefore proving the church wasn't united which is what the word Catholic meant in Latin. The church wasn't called Catholic until The Council of Nicea, and then you just have men whether led by the spirit or not, forming the church into one large conglomerate instead of regional variants. Now does this discredit the Catholic church isn't for me to say but it does put your claim to the test.
@@TheRichandmighty Matthew 16:18-19 "You are Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH." Yes it counts. When does he build it? I agree its future tense and without the Spirit it cannot be the Church of Christ. Let's read the book of acts. Acts 1 the Spirit falls on them! That's when the church is formed, and look at how God uses Peter specifically as the instrument through which he continues to build his church. Acts 2 God uses Peter to preach a sermon that converts 3000 people ! Acts 2:41. Acts 3 God uses Peter to heal a beggar. So he not only converted his hearts, but this was another opportunity for other hearts to be converted and be incorporated to the church. Acts 4 Peter explains and takes the chance to say it was by the authority of Jesus christ that the beggar was healed. Acts 5 Peter rebukes Ananias and his wife. Read in acts and pay attention to when they mention the apostles, its "Peter and the 12" peter is set apart and even in the gospel list of apostles it says "first Peter." Acts 8 peter and john are transmitting the holy spirit by the imposition of hands, but Peter is the one to speak on behalf of the apostles and rebukes simon. Acts 9 God uses Peter heals people. Acts 10 Peter commands gentiles to be baptized and everyone listens to him. And to top it all off who settles the issue of circumcision in acts 15? PETER.
@@TheRichandmighty "the church wasnt called catholic until the council of nicea". False. Lies. Read st ignatius of Antioch letter to the symrnaeans (chapter 8 verse 2) year 107 he calls the church CATHOLIC and says where the BISHOPS AND PRESBYTERS (WHICH IS WHERE WE GET THE WORD "PRIEST") AND DEACONS AND THE HOLY EUCHARIST THERE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
On pop Christianity, I can’t tell you how many feathers I ruffle when speaking on humility and people boast of self confidence/love that contradicts even how the Bible defines humility. That humility is making less of yourself and denying even your needs at time to serve others when you have them fulfilled. It’s becoming a grossly popular teaching that Jesus wants you to be successful and to take self love days because you can’t help others if X. When in reality we are never filled up by anything but Christ!! Yes rest, have a spa day to relax all that’s good but don’t claim those things fill you up to do the work of Christ when that’s something that comes from the living water r
Amen. That's the biggest difference I see between true and false Christianity. True Christianity is 'others first' for Jesus' sake. False Christianity is 'self first'.
@@johnconklin1039 12 - 17 - 21 Mormonism 1830 Adventism 1863 Jehovah's Witnesses 1875 ALL....of these three New 19th century FALSE religions are the UNHOLY Trinity
How AWESOME! My heart breaks for a lot of people. As the wife of a pastor, and trying to lead people deeper, it is a tough job. It takes more than just us...it take the power of the Holy Spirit! Thank God for the strength and wisdom that he pours into you both. You’re both a great blessing to me. There are not a lot of female teachers that I care to follow. I do try hard to glean your lessons. Thank you! God bless you both.🙌🏻
Awesome work guys! When my wife divorced me it was so hard living the life without sex and I had failed and asked for forgiveness for that. I am married to a wonderful Christian woman now! We both hold each other accountable. Actually our first kiss was at the altar. Thanks for your ministry guys! I grew up Catholic so I could get into a lot of the details you guys did which is really sad about the works salvation and having to do the sacrememts just right and confess to the priests and them tell you how many hail Marys to say or our fathers. It's awesome all we have to do is go to God almighty! And confess to him only
I fail to understand how intelligent people can continue to stay with the Catholic Church despite the pedophile priests cover up and to “worship” that man in Rome! Guys wake up he is just a mere man! You can communicate directly with God because Jesus has torn the “veil” that separated us. Jesus is our Mediator not the pope and priests!! Blinded by Satan!
The first thing neededto be valadated is the new test itself before you go startin buildind anything the 4 gosples. Were unamed for hundreds of years the catholic church slaped names on them fianally but their not apostlistic thats what counts...half of pauls writtings are in question the writing style and timing dont match pauls other letters acts hebrews dont have names their only guesing on who wrote them the book of rev wasnt added until 530 ad way after the other nt books it was approved by a pope by the way...the trinity was only voted on in 525ad if they the cath church voted on a doctrine like that ..that means they didnt know for sure jesus deity and relationship to the father yet dahhhh 500 years had gone by i though these christions had the spirit to lead them into all truth.. No they didnt and you better questiin the trinity doctrine look who it came from. The cinstantine led cath fallen rome church...yoy better questiion your religion first father son spirit doctrine came from greek pagan religeon the jews never worship a three part God...the rabbis say today theyve had 2000 too search this out your worship a cath contrived god...that why its called the roman cath church its roman and greek..the first cent christians didnt see jesus as god almighty .paul said five times in one letter the god and father of the lord jesus christ the father is jesus god there is no trinity..jesus said on cross my what.. God why have you fosaken....me. Your still following the mother of harlots..see revelation..also where was jesus for 18 yrs all goslpels have missing..see book the lost years of jesus by elizabeth clare prophet...wow research yout religeon first ask rabbis for their input on christian histiry the jews have been here since moses your pastor hasnt take their input their not liers...thanx
@@donwrasse6841 The Trinity is revealed all throughout the Old Testament, not only in the New Testament. Have you read the entire Bible? If you have then you cannot deny how perfectly the New and Old testaments work together and form a perfect picture of Yah's love in sending His precious Son to die for us. This powerful God can speak to you personally if you truly seek Him from a place of humbleness. The only way you can pray to the Father is through the Son, He is our only Mediator and Savior.
I am a Protestant minister in training and been dating and called to a woman who is culturally Catholic. It’s been challenging but we have humbly submitted to the word of God , and truly been a blessing understand Catholics and the Catholic Church better . I agree 100% it has to be individualized when it comes to them and now we are together evangelizing to the Catholic Church but also helping the Protestant church understand the Catholic Church better thank you both men , and continue to pray for us as we truly try to strive and glorify God through it all .
Excellent. I am just a Christian and don't consider myself anything but that, and engaged to someone who grew up in Roman Catholic church. I've discussed this challenging stuff and we came to an agreement that there is a lot of problems in it. I don't recognize the authority of Rome at all, BUT, I do think God uses it to lead people to Christ, even if not everyone in it is saved or their doctrines is truly lined up biblically. So I've approached it with grace. Show Christ through it all, He is our Lord
@@Andromedon777 How hard was it for you to get her/him to realize that Jesus wants a really personal relationship with that person? I, too am dating a Catholic man and he always bows his head before a meal... does understand the gospel... but IMO hasn’t experienced a close relationship and is not inspired to grow in the knowledge and grace of Jesus.... makes me so sad
@@dorothygrantham4370 Well, I felt very confident in her relationship with Christ from the beginning. I think she is a perfect example of someone who has a personal relationship with Christ while under the Roman system. Remember, we're dealing with humans and each is their own case with Christ. Religion is irrelevant,l. All God cares about is if you have a relationship with Christ or not. With that in mind, my point is not universalism, but that there are those saved and unsaved in all churches who fit under the Christian title. So you will have people on fire for Christ in the most stoich or churches, and those who appear saved in your "Hillsong" churches but their faith is shallow or nonexistent. Work on the love of Christ with him. Show him who our God is and How grace. If you have questions, drop them here. I enjoy sharing the love of Christ and little pockets of info I've learned. God be with you!
@Mzansi Queen No. Just no... And no duh the 3 members of the trinity are 3 separate persons. But they comprise of One God. Thanks for telling us Christians what we've declared to the world since the beginning. You've accomplished nothing
Most of what you guys said on this program were very good. You were right on point. You were very successful in separating the false Churches from the true church. Keep up the good work. God bless. Apostle R.
With regards to allen commenting on the extra books Catholics have. We share those same books with the eastern and oriental orthodox church. It was the protestants who removed those books because they falsely believed that the masoretic texts are correct which excludes the extra books) When in fact the masoretic texts were codified (as proposed by some scholars) by the jews after Jesus' time. During Jesus' ministry the Scriptures present and available at that time and was considered canon, and divinely inspired, did contain the extra books. In fact the new testament often quotes the septuagint as it was the widely used version of the old testament at the time. That is what the early christians held as sacred Scripture. So to remove them would have been heresy to the early christians in the first century.
@@paulk9972 They have been dated to as early as a few centuries before Christ. With fragments of some of the books found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were removed by Rabbinic Judaism as Jews who followed Christ points to these as evidence of Jesus as Messiah. Therefore when the Masoretic Texts were codfied AFTER Christ, they did not include these books. restlesspilgrim.net/blog/2014/09/06/quick-apology-the-deuterocanon/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books
Note your own comment said some scholars. Please expound your take on that. If your orthodox you reject the pope of Rome. Please expound on your church affiliation.
@@tralfazruk1 i am Catholic, but that doesn't take away from the issue about the Deuterocanincals. The Orthodox also recognize papal primacy, but ONLY as first among equals and not Papal Supremacy. Still the bishop of rome, descendant of Peter does hold a unique and special office. Regardless, the issue of Deuterocanincals, all the ancient christian groups (catholic, eastern Orthodox and oriental orthodox) recognize it. Only protestants have removed it based on the Masoretic Texts.
You and Mike Winger did an awesome job!! To God be the glory!! Keep the good news coming!! I listened to every drop!! No fast forwarding for me!! I need to hear it all!
Wow, this is such a cool thing to see you guys together in one video, God bless you guys and I pray for more laborers in the field, for the harvest is plenty but the laborers are few thus saith our Lord Jesus. He is coming soon!
@@jamesfahey5686 Thanks. I will look at these two TH-camrs. I am SDA and I have thought about making a series of response videos for Allen Parr’s videos on SDAs.
The key distinction with SDA and Mainline Evangelicals is the fact that the SDA Church believes that the law that is written in our hearts that Jesus spoke about is THE law that has always existed, outlined in the Ten Commandments. Through that lens, the Sabbath would be in the same platform as the commandments against having other gods and murder. Nobody argues that willful murderers go to heaven. SDAs treat the Sabbath commandment with the same reverence as the other 9. Although it isn’t the way to Salvation, a saved and born again Christian should be observing the Sabbath like God intended them to.
@@paisleyplaid4074 focusing on the commandment and reminding people to observe it is different from elevating it higher than others. The fourth commandment is the only commandment that starts with “remember” which shows you God’s warning that people will forget. Mrs. White talks plenty about living a sanctified life in Christ. That includes all the other commandments. To be wholistic in our obedience, we mustn’t forget any one of them.
@@jamesncardenas post the scripture that says nonisraelites are to keep the commandments- ill wait 👇 (Exodus 31:16-17) speak unto the children of ISRAEL that they are to keep the Sabbath thruout their generation it is a perpetual covenant between me and the children of ISRAEL FOREVER (Psalm 147:19-20) he showeth his word unto jacob his statues n judgements unto ISRAEL he hath NOT delt so with any nation and as for his judgements they have not known them Both Islam n Christianity are of Satan no scripture says be a muslim mormon baptist sda Pentecostal Catholic etc the bible nor God have anything to do with religion.
@@johnconklin1039 following the same logic, can you cite pre Israel any command to follow certain commandments which are clearly defined? Biblical exegesis is understanding the context without looking for word for word commands to follow them.
Re Mormons: A couple of sweet, young missionaries came to my door, and I talked with them (outside.) They proclaimed that they were Christians and believed in the Bible. I said, "Oh good! I'm so glad because Galatians 1:8 says that if we or an angel of heaven preach a doctrine that is different, let him be accursed." What I got in response was that "deer in the headlights" look. I always wonder if these Bible quotes I use on them and the JW's reaches even just a little bit of their hearts. I hope so.
@@nanizon 11 - 25 - 21 How was that a terrible non - loving remark ? The love is Christ is to share the REAL GOSPEL.....and NOT some FAKE Gospel that these New 19th century FALSE religions proclaim Mormonism 1830 Adventism 1863 Jehovah's Witnesses 1875 Do you know what the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is ? Let me share with you the REAL truth of the REAL Gospel.... 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ DEATH BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY ! Mormonism Adventism Jehovah's Witnesses don't share the REAL LOVE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ They take unsuspecting people from different religions and lead them straight to HELL.....that is not love
Romans 3:20 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:28 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law! Romans 5:1 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 4:5 KJV ✝️🙏 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Galatians 2:16 KJV ✝️🙏 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no man be justified! Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV ✝️🙏 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 11:6 KJV ✝️🙏 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Galatians 2:21 KJV ✝️🙏 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Philippians 3:9 KJV ✝️🙏 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. John 1:12 KJV ✝️🙏 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. John 5:24 KJV ✝️🙏 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Romans 4:1-25 ✝️🙏🦁🐑📖❤️🕊️⛪🩸
1 Peter 3:15 “But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord.c Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect”
Before even watching: I REALLLLLLLLYYYY _reaaaaallllyyy_ , *really* 🥺 hope that the "mother god" group is discussed because They Are On The Move!!! I'll come back after I complete the video 😎 So, ngl several days later after having finally been able to complete the entire vid, I was disappointed initially that "god the mother" religion was NOT the 6th most concerning religion out there, _however_ I actually think that y'all's selected group is extremely concerning and has been far more of a stumbling block towards so many people that I know, and so ty two, really enjoyed your vid!
They hit on it a bit showing the newage in pop Christianity. There's several out there. Here's one I recently watched. th-cam.com/video/_f8fotz5GUo/w-d-xo.html
What an encouraging conversation I got to listen into. Thank you Mike and Allen for putting this together, especially that last group! I just had a conversation with a friend today, we had to talk about differing values and morals as business partners and I’m not gonna lie, a lot of what was mentioned in that last group is so prominent in this time where new agism, ‘self-glorifying’ perspectives, and non-biblical cultural and political norms have really seeped even into the beliefs of many Christians. Jesus is the Lord of my life and as He is holy and that means we cannot compromise and “bend” the truth and completely disregard the righteousness and holiness of God to conform to the view of the world and today’s cultural norms. I didn’t have all the answers but this is a start. Thank you!
Thank you for this. I’m learning so much from this channel, unfortunately I realized I knew very little about being a true Christian. I don’t even know what kind of church to go to.And I really don’t know any true Christians. Yes I know people who go to church but no one that is a real Christian. I really need to seek the truth and seek like minded people. I’m ashamed to say I really believed in the Law of attraction until very recently. So again thank you for this.
Thank you for your transparency. I would suggest you look for a Bible church where the pastor teaches solidly like they are doing here, and pray the Lord guides your steps into alignment with other believers who are seeking to live a godly life.
Be faithful in prayer, pray often and use an abundance of praise and the giving of thanks to God. Read your bible daily and trust that the Spirit of God will give understanding. These are the foundation of your walk and fellowship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Trust God to lead you into fellowship with other believers, even though that time of fellowship may be temporary. Follow the Christ of God and the leading of the Spirit of God. Grace and Peace!
Hi Devan - Mike Winger is a Calvary Chapel pastor. One of my favorites is Steve Whinery at CC Tri-Cities, WA, Ken Ortiz in Spokane WA, Tom Hughes and James Kaddis are both in CA. Tom’s church is “412” church. Of course there’s Don Stewart just to name a few online ones. But you can look for a Calvary Chapel in your area. Hope this helps. Blessings.
@@minterbell 12 - 18 - 21 So you are the JUDGE to say Allen Parr is NOT a Christian because he's not part of your religion DENOMINATION church ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY!
Great video! I love what Allen said as he wrapped it up. People need to hear biblical truth. I grew up in the church. I kept my faith through college. A few years ago, my family switched to a church that goes verse by verse through the Bible. I realized how hungry I was for God’s word. I discovered things in the Bible that I had never heard in 30 years of going to church. Thank you for your time and effort into putting out this content!
I love both of you. Thank you for following your call from God to do these videos. I cannot express my gratitude enough for all of time and effort you put in to share the truth of Jesus Christ! It's so hard to find the "real deal" these days and you're it. I've learned SO MUCH from both of you.
ALSO, Satan made sure that Jesus and his followers were seen as a cult in their day, and this fact is written in Gods word and in records outside of the Bible. The same today or, when Jehovah's Witnesses first started and it's been going since: Satan is making sure many people, including false religion, see them as a cult. But guess what: it makes them very happy knowing Gods name is being made known and it is due to them that many come to know Jehovah. Gods word goes fulfilled every day and false religions don't even know it or, they ignore it. Jehovah is great.
@@markuse3472 2 - 29 - 24 The Letter "" J "" was NOT USED prior to the 13th century it was ADDED to the English language because MOST people don't speak Hebrew I have no problem with Jehovah or Jesus Christ , but to say EMPHATICALLY that Jehovah is the name of God is ridiculous and not found in ANY of the Dead Sea Scrolls or in ANY GREEK manuscript You DENY that Jesus = YESHUA ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD You DENY that Jesus = YESHUA PHYSICALLY RESURRECTED on a SUNDAY being under Jewish CALENDAR You LOVE SHUNING people the minute they question the Watchtower/ Awake ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Amazing enlightenment these two pastors my favourite … I have learnt so much from both of you listening to you both almost everyday … may the almighty God strengthen you both in your ministry .. God Bless you both ❤️
Yes, thank you. I research, I listen to several speakers, to worship songs and always wondered if I was on the right track. I truly believe I am even though others around me think my thoughts are not sure of words…odd, old fashioned and too curious.
@@minterbell 11 - 25 - 21 Your church is FAKE NOT ONCE have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ Mr..Biblically illustrate ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ DEATH BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 you said that my church is fake? 😆😆😆 excuse me, i do not own any church. the church that i belong to is the church of God in the bible that Jesus as the head and the apostles were also called in the same church i am in too. saying it is fake is absolute ignorance of the bible. 😄😆😄 and why did you mention about spreading the good news? are we going now to that topic? you seem to be not in order. 😄
Speaking as a former Catholic, the best way to affirm “ solo escritura “ by simply and patiently opening the Bible showing them the answers to life’s questions. Jesus gave us the best example in the sermon on the mount. Matthew 5-7
Don't ever be afraid to do long videos, they are great listening while doing crafts and chores. Ironing, sewing, hand embroidery, folding laundry, rocking the newborn to sleep, etc. I love the long, in depth videos. Thank you for all your studying and passion for the truth of Jesus Christ. God bless you both!
Same! Love to walk the dogs, drive, do chores, etc., all while listening!
I like listening while I take my morning walk! Longer is great!
OK. You had alot of ground to cover here, but in general, 85% of the time....
15 minutes - or LESS.
Soooo many people ramble with unnecessary stuff. Mike Winger OVER-explains and goes on and on, as if trying to cover every possible scenario. Which becomes boring. I appreciate getting to the point. I posted about long-windedness on his channel, too. Stick to the 2 most likely scenarios or objections. 15 minutes is enough detail to have "meat".
I'd save the 1 hr or longer stuff for a 1-on-1 debate with someone. Otherwise, if it goes over 15 minutes, recommend a book.
Yes, haha! Takes the mind off the decreasing crochet stitch ;)
Also this one has like parts to it so I can kind of separate it in like six different videos so there's also that way too
Ex mormon here. Yesterday i found the real christ. Now i am searching to find a true trinitarian church.
Please pray for me.
God bless you.
TRENT HORNS REBUTTAL OF THIS VIDEO (Catholic view): th-cam.com/video/4OTf-rR6O_o/w-d-xo.html
It’s the Catholic Church. Don’t let their straw man arguments fool you.
I will pray for you. I know it must be hard coming out of it especially when your family may still be Mormon.
@@DanielMaloneJr examples?
Christ be with you
Christ waits to greet you in his true Holy Catholic Church.
God bless you
Mike Winger is one of the best channels on TH-cam. Knowledgeable, humble, engaging, unashamed.
Lol 😂
Yes! And also glad to find a new to me, brother in Christ. Hi Allen! Good work!❤
Excellent, biblically based teacher. Totally agree.
Right what a genuine man of God. He is very inspiring. May God bless him abundantly.
Jesus is King! 👑🩵💕🦋💕🩵
Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead three days later. Repent and believe in him as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved! God bless! 🩵💕🦋💕🩵
💕🌸🌺Romans 10:9-11 KJV 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 🌺🌸💕❤
As a former Jehovah’s witness now A Christ follower … I approve of this message !
I'm so happy for you being a Christian ,part of my family is a former Jehovah's witness and Catholic . I wish they would repent and become a protestant Christian I'm working on helping them become that but they are sceptical.
Amen 🙏🏿 me too! I’m so glad God delivered me from spiritual darkness
@@melissa-SELBit’s hard for them because of the indoctrination. keep praying for them !
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Two days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I'm not finding any information saying Jehovah Witnesses are required to go door to door.
What!! This is 2 years old? When it came across my feed, I just assumed yall just did it. The message is going to be timeless. Great stuff guys.
I thought the same thing!
Same lol!
I just came across it today. It is timeless.
Same here….Mmmmmmm….🤔🤔
My dad called himself a Christian when I was still an atheist, but he called himself a buffet/cafeteria Christian, so he would have been under the "pop Christian" umbrella. When I was saved I was excited and went to talk to my dad about it, but he had already left Christianity altogether. I pray for him almost every day now.
Keep praying for him. I know someone had to be praying for you. I pray your dad will truly be saved. I don't believe anyone is truly saved believing in the goodness, grace and mercy of God and His love and Jesus our Savior and then walks away. Reminds me of the Parable of the Sower (seed that fell on rocky soil perhaps?). Anyway, as long as he has breath, he has an opportunity to really come into a loving relationship with the Father and our Savior. Don't give up because I know God sure hasn't! 🙏🙂
My cousin (a devout Roman Catholic) married the son of German immigrants, who converted to Catholicism. When she died, my brothers and I all came home for the funeral. The priest told us that she was in Purgatory and, if we desired, he could show us how to help shorten her time there. Herman was not pleased; if, after all she had done, including thousands of dollars given to that church, she wasn't in Heaven? He left the church and became mostly agnostic.
His daughter started dating a friend of mine who was called to the ministry. He invited Herman to come for his first sermon. Herman thanked him for the invitation but declined. However, when Mike got up to the pulpit that Sunday evening, he saw Herman sitting in the back. Long story short, Herman responded to the invitation and Mike and the pastor led him to Christ. A few months later, he was dead. Never give up hope: as long as there is life, there's hope.
Thank you both. I appreciate that.
Stand strong my brother....and I will be praying for your dad as well.....
Most likely it had to do with so called church people in political positions in the church.
*The problem with deception is that people don’t know that they are deceived* 🤔😢
That's the scariest part of sin in my experience.
@@jeffmartinek9969 The cults actually believe that they are correct. That’s the problem. Yes, they choose not to investigate further. But they have gone so far down the road that they have deceived them selves into thinking that they are correct.
@@lovegod8582 there is fear taught to them from day one. Those who were born into Mormon families have been taught this their entire life. That they have the truth & all other religions are from the devil. They believe that Christians have a piece of the truth & that they have the full truth.
My people perish for lack of knowledge.
@@ginamiller6754 How do you know evangelism is not the cult and that another religion is the truth?
I was definitely in the progressive Christianity mindset. I was no longer going to church or reading my Bible rather I was falling into following the social media/culture crowd idk what else to call it. I was seeing other “Christians” being open and saying they’re ok with abortions and lgbtq etc. So it got me thinking and following the same mindset of, ‘you know what, it’s the 20th century people change everything changes’ and God is a loving God who, if He were here today, how could or why would He deny these people/groups if He is a loving God.
It got me into thinking that you know what, I am attracted to the same sex and maybe I am part of these groups. I didn’t see it as what it really was; myself struggling with sin, with temptation and confusion. And I starting to think maybe everyone else feels the same, attraction to the opposite sex even if they don’t claim to be a part of the lgbtq community. Turns out I was the one making it all up in my head and telling myself what God would and wouldn’t approve of. As Pastor Mike said, after all “Jesus Loves” , “God is love” is what us pop Christians think of.
I’ve stumbled across Pastor Allen Parr’s videos recently and my goodness has he helped me open my eyes! I was going down into this dark, deep path and if it weren’t for the content he creates I probably wouldn’t be here commenting on this video right now.
For some background, I was raised into the Catholic Church community. I never KNEW Jesus. All I ever know was Mary and the saints. I never knew we could pray to Jesus. I as well only ever prayed to Mary. We had statues and pictures of “Mary”. I was only baptized and therefore couldn’t receive communion which made me feel sad, left out, and like I was going to purgatory or hell. Until I was older (early 20’s) and felt lost and my friend invited me to a Christian church, then I was introduced to scripture and everything about Christianity. I kept attending and eventually got baptized (which my family was furious and literally afraid for me). Shortly after, we moved across country when my husband joined the military and that’s when we stopped attending church etc. Now I’m so very grateful to have stumbled across Allen Parr’s Channel and I have now started reading my Bible in plans of finding truth, and giving myself to God fully.
With all that said, please pray for me and my family so that we don’t get distracted and go down the wrong road again. 🙏🏽
Haha dude your gay
🙏🏽🙏🏽
Same story as you but I'm the military member and retiring next year. Keep reading the Bible and studying church history. At one point of my life I Couldn't be any further from the Catholic church and now it's been 3 weeks since my confirmation and it's the closest I've ever felt to Jesus. I love videos like these from Mike, Allen, pastor david Lynn, ray comfort and others that challenge me in my walk as a Catholic. Praying for you in your journey and that you one day will make it back home ❤️. God bless.
God be with you child of God. I too grew up in the routine up snd down of Catholic church. A coworker gave me a bible... I was addicted to the Word and it changed me and I am a Jesus Freak and can think of doing nothing but share His agape love, forgiveness and salvation. My birth family and siblings are hardcore Catholics. Purgatory, praying for the dead, and cantonized saints, for obsession with Mary and so on... I at 7 yrs old didnt get it went to Catholic grade school. Wicked nuns telling me i was going to hell for asking why do we pray to dead ppl and not straight to God?? 🤔 I love and cry for joy when speaking to the Holy Spirit, reading my bible. He is my protector in behavior, guides me in all situations. Stay true to Jesus via the truth in the bible. Satan will attack you in your walk. Ask Jesus to be with you and know he protects you. Faith = Truth / Fear is the Liar; the deceiver but at the end GOD WINS. And we can relish in His greatness and glory. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and have peace. Love and prayers over you and your family. Your family should delight in your faith. Bible is our Fathers life guide. And an insight to His righteous and Love to us His Children. 🤗🙌😌
I'm so happy you found peace again.
I'm Catholic, I was saved by God about a year ago and had a compelling to read the word of God. Within a year I consumed the Bible and found greater understanding.
I thought I was following a false religion for a time due to so much Christian content on social media telling me that I prayed falsely but I prayed to God and asked for understanding and guidance.
"For whomever is not against us is for us" Mark 9 38-41
I enjoy my local mass service. I have faith in the Holy Spirit, that God is with us all and guiding us all to betterment.
God bless you ❤
I'm watching this on June 11, 2024. I'm so glad this popped up on my feed. Thank you for doing this!
You both are a joy!! Thank you. It is very encouraging to hear young folk with their Gospel on straight!!!
Mike is not " young folk!".
Jesus is King! 👑🩵💕🦋💕🩵
Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead three days later. Repent and believe in him as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved! God bless! 🩵💕🦋💕🩵
💕🌸🌺Romans 10:9-11 KJV 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 🌺🌸💕❤
1. 11:00 Mormons - LDS
2. 25:20 Jehovah’s Witnesses
3. 44:15 Hebrew Israelites
4. 1:05:30 Roman Catholicism
5. 1:29:50 Seventh Day Adventist - SDA
6. 1;52:44 Popular “pop” Christianity (Progressive)
Thank you for the list! I watched until the end but lost track of the numbers lol!
Useful!
@@melindamercier6811 Tim stamps also included for you and everyone so you guys can jump straight to each topic 😊🙏✝️
Thank you for this!
So good. Should be pinned!! 📌
While in Ukraine, our church center in Kiev was about less than a minute from JW building. By the grace of Jesus, we have a lunch ministry where on weekdays, we served about 150 people daily (mostly elderly & the poor because of the war). Some JW members also came to eat while trying to share their materials with others. So we told them that while they can certainly eat here, they have to do their JW stuff outside of this building.
Good luck they have the truth
This is POWERFUL teaching!!! Thank you so much on this biblical collaboration. The both of you are very blessed with knowledge from the Lord. ❤❤
This was so enlightening that I can barely express it. I'm 74 and have been an evangelical Christian most of my life. This was extremely important in this world. God richly bless you both!
I grew up SDA, went to SDA schools and college. I have to tell you that Ellen White isn't as big of an influence as she was in years gone by. She wrote such a huge amount of books and articles, that only the most die hard SDA is even aware of much of what she wrote. I know I wasn't. I think the leadership that heads the denomination, is aware that some of her writings are problematic, and probably sweep that under the rug so as not to rock the boat. When these things were brought to my attention several years ago, and I decided to look into it myself, I decided to leave the church. I'm now an evangelical, which was a very easy transition, because as you pointed out, most of the core Adventist beliefs align with the Bible.
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My friend MOST of Adventism does not align with the Bible
That's the reason why you left and became an Evangelical because now you PREACH/ SPREAD the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
Seventh day Adventists
DO NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments
Thank you for sharing your testimony
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Hi, can you please share the things that were brought to your attention that led you to leave the church. I am very interested to learn more.
I grew up SDA and went to grade thru Academy SDA schools And read all EGWhites books in later years. I was in and out of the church, EGW was understood and followed more in 1800s. They were rooted in Methodist and Freemason beliefs and ideologies I learned after much Bible and Historical studies. Saddened me. The Whites have high level Masonic gravestones in Battle Creek Michigan. Can be found online. Thank y of u for this video
Similar journey for me
I really look for the 'meat & potatoes Bible Studies' at my age!! Nothing just simple!
Loved this covering of 6 religion areas!
The Pop Christian churches rarely do anything for me - as it's all way too shallow, often doesn’t agree with Biblical Principles, Info & Truths of Scriptures! Its like infant milk vs food.
Tried SDA for 6 full years & at 1st loved learning Truth on Sabbath Keeping starting Fri night - Saturday sundown (not proper on Sundays - POPE changed it to Sunday = NOT GOD) but during my last 3 years, I got so tired of their own heavy ideas on End Times, & tho Originally SDA started from Methodist leaders - it was hard especially on their pushing E G White & how highly EGW's been exalted with her massive amounts of writings since 1844 = more so than even the Holy Bible [ No way!! ]
SDA views on hell & not much time on any spiritual gifts - that I just couldn't accept all that vs True Biblical Words!
Also they think they are the only Remnants because of their Sabbath Keeping & keeping Dietary Laws of vegetarian eating (but they eat WAY too much SOY & alternative foods tho - IMHO)
Had I not deeply studied Bible for over 50 yrs by then - I'd maybe have just gone along... without Holy Spirit Wisdom leading me.
In the Catholic arena -
POPES take on WAY Too Much Power & Authority - YET THEY DO NOT Reign Supreme above our SUPREME KING YESHUA/ JESUS & GOD! [Tho it appears they may THINK they are higher than GOD ALMIGHTY!]
NEITHER do the Saints they regularly pray to = NOT Scriptural !
Instead OUR PRAYERS are to be said From us Directly 🙏 PRAYING through our SAVIOR King YESHUA/JESUS NAME to Our ABBA FATHER GOD!
Yup - it is True!
No mediator except King Yeshua/Jesus is needed!!!
Pennances ? = NOT Scriptural! Purgatory ? = NOT Scriptural!
Mother Mary always a virgin ? =
Not Scriptural
Mary gave a miraculous birth to Yeshua /Jesus as a virgin bride, with GOD as HIS Holy Father!
Later though both Mary & Husband Joseph the carpenter together had several more children as JESUS's 1/2 brothers & sisters - including at least James, Joses & 2 un-named sisters, maybe even 2 more brothers!
Yeah
Im still a Sabbath Keeper & learning our Hebrew Old Testament Truths pointing YESHUA as Our Messiah fulfillment in New Testament !!
Lots to digest & you both did an excellent job covering 6 religion areas! WAS Surprised this was put out years ago... in June 2021.
Thank you!! A Timeless Message ...
Now July 2024
Thank you Allen and Mike. It was so good to cover so much in one talk. I appreciate you taking the time to do such a good job!!
"True Christianity doesn't look like me at all. It's constantly making me change; Jesus confronting me." - Thanks for having Mike Winger on. Great intellect!
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@Mike Flanagan
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@Mike Flanagan That's news to me, Mike, but who are the Seventh-day Adventists that freely admit that the seventh day Sabbath of the Bible is a "shadow of things to come and not of the reality."
SUCH Seventh-day Adventist need more studies as to what the Bible teaches and what is taught by authentic Seventh-day Adventist teachers on this subject. No genuine, correctly informed SDA teaches such error. Sheep in wolves clothing, calling themselves SDA might do that.
For those who do not understand the big deal about the need to keep the correct Sabbath I'll just share this:
Within the fourth commandment of the Ten, as given in the Protestant Bible, in Exodus 20 is identified who God is (the Creator God), the territory over which He rules, (heaven and earth), and why He has the authority to rule over us. (He made us)
He has expressly told us in many places in Scripture how we should worship Him, when we should worship Him, why we should, where we should worship Him. He also told us what would be the result of disobeying any of the directives in these respects. There is NO evidence of any change in His directives. Neither Christ nor His disciples mentioned or practiced any change.
He has warned us particularly that in the end time that a power would arise teaching contrary to these directives and warned us of the serious repercussions of following that power's directives rather than following His. That power directs/dictates Sunday worship instead of Sabbath worship.
So the crucial matter is whose directives are we going to OBEY? God's or man's. Whose you OBEY shows where your LOYALTY IS. If you CHOOSE man over God then you are violating the First commandment which says: "Thou shalt have no other God's before me." All who choose another authority besides God will receive their mark of destruction, for they worship another God and not The CREATOR God.
You may appreciate learning about how Sunday worship came into being in the Christian Church.
Just Google the documentary:
REVELATION: The Bride, the Beast and Babylon
Be blessed in your search for Bible truth.
@Mike Flanagan Again Mike, the Sabbath being a shadow of things is simply YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION of the statement given in SDA Fundamental Beliefs. That is NOT at all what the statement says. Above All, it is NOT at all what the Bible says. The Sabbath is a sign, a symbol of our sanctification--of our being holy unto the Lord, a set apart people for His use in this wicked world, fit to live with holy beins in a holy place, Heaven. We will be celebrating the Sabbath in Heaven and on the earth made new. The very same cycle will be observed. Isaiah 6622, 23 tell us that. Read it for yourself: "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, sixth the Lord."
Strongly asserting that something is true is not enough; bring forth the evidence or hold your peace. Instead you bring an essay that in no way support your assertions.
@Mike Flanagan Give Scriptural backing for your claim that the Lord Himself started Sunday sabbath sacredness. Don't bear false witness against your neighbor and definitely NOT against God! Instead embrace and love God's holy Sabbath which begins every Friday evening at sunset wherever you may live. It ends on Saturday evening at sunset; twenty-four hours of Sacred time, the BEST time of the week! Enjoy it!
What an amazing collaboration! You guys work so well together - you allowed each other space to talk without interruptions. Such respect was shown on both sides. Thank you for bringing these truths to the world.
Mike & Allan that was sure a lengthy video but it was worth every second of it. Yes do a follow up collaboration. I love you guys for your thorough biblical knowledge & love for Christ.
Exactly.. its such a desert out here for thorough, biblically sound discussion. These collaborations are healing and encouraging in a world of division.
I don't think you call Allan's biblical knowledge "thorough". The man has a self confident attitude and slick production values and he speaks well. None of that, however, is substance. Allan is 100% appearance. His actual biblical analysis and exegesis is severely questionable to put it loosely.
Although I have nothing personally against him, I put him in the same category as a Joel Osteen. They both use Christianity as a theme for entertainment shows. They are not theologians, they are actors portraying pastors. I will eat my hat if either of them has actually provided Biblically sound pastoral care to anybody in the past 5 years. Nothing they do is for or about God. They just use God to make money.
@Patrick Barnes why so critical? They have two completely different communication and teaching styles - and both are valuable for varying audiences. The content on Mike Winger's channel is more in depth, but it's specifically to teach us to think biblically about everything. We need all kinds of teachers and I personally value what each of these men bring to people who long to grow in Christ. God bless you 💜
@@patrickbarnes9874
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Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions
I am brought as a Catholic, but with God:s grace I believe the truth about the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In 2011 I was saved. To God be the glory 🙏❤️
Yesssss 🙌😌💞
Too bad. I listen to Jesus and not Luther
I feel like a kid when I first watched "the Flinstones meet the Jetsons." haha, love that my fave TH-camrs are together! Thank you both for what you do.. it has blessed me SO much.
That's so funny. You're decade is showing, but I love it.
@@carlosreira413 A bit undiplomatic. Those older tend to have a good sense of history and have.much to teach.
@@Nancy-fm1ie My sincerest apologies, sister Nancy. I have to agree with you. We MUST give respect to our elders in the faith, as the Good Book instructs us. History is a sorely needed subject. I'm thinking myself of starting a Church history class to get folks from different denominational backgrounds together to look at the mistakes of the past, so that we don't make them again!
The roman catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ
@@Nancy-fm1ie "..k
As a former SDA member for 30 years, I can tell you that there are many flaws in the denomination. Though not one denomination is perfect and not one person is perfect, is why I lean on the Bible for ALL inspiration, doctrine and teachings. The Holy Spirit is the one in charged to give us discernment to interpret Scripture.
I lost my ways also but the seventh day religion has no faults
@@melvinpervis6678wrong!!
@@melvinpervis6678😊😅😂
@@melvinpervis6678Has many faults but you have to read the Bible without the veil of Ellen to see the truth
I feel this to the core. I was raised in the SDA church. However, I was taught fear. I was saved 3 years ago, at 43 years old because I finally understood what was done on the cross. I have found discernment is KEY.
I so appreciate the privilege of reaping the benefits of this joint project; from detailed explanations to boiled-down highlights, Winger and Parr have enriched and better equipped us to lovingly wield the Truth that will set the prisoners free. Thank you, gentlemen, for your diligent study of the Scriptures and the extra-biblical sources that help frame the information we both internalize and disseminate, and for continuing to bring high quality and relevant content to your platforms.
they also are not real christians. real christians are CALLED in the Church of God. NOT just anywhere you like.
@@minterbell
11 - 25 - 21
Your church is FAKE
NOT ONCE have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
Mr. Biblically illiterate
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
DEATH
BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of
Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 you said that my church is fake? 😆😆😆 excuse me, i do not own any church. the church that i belong to is the church of God in the bible that Jesus as the head and the apostles were also called in the same church i am in too. saying it is fake is absolute ignorance of the bible. 😄😆😄 and why did you mention about spreading the good news? are we going now to that topic? you seem to be not in order. 😄
@@minterbell
12 - 17 - 21
You are the one JUDGING people on these threads telling them that they are wrong because they are NOT part of your religion DENOMINATION
@@minterbell
12 - 17 - 21
You've NOT ONCE have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ( NOT ONCE )
Well I am at 2024 and it is very relevant in this present day. Thank you both for this teaching and faithfulness. I have followed Mike for years and now subscribed to Allen Parr.
This was an amazing listen! It will sure be helpful in my witnessing to others. Peace and blessings in Christ Jesus!
I loved this video, I learned a lot! I am new to my walk with Christ after leaving as a teenager. To me, this pop Christianity you speak about sounds the same as the New Age Jesus! I was heavily in the new age myself for years so I recognized it. Their view of Jesus is he’s an ascended master basically, not the only path to God, and he definitely doesn’t judge your choices lol. Melissa Dougherty made a video about it. It’s definitely a pervasive problem, especially when you have celebrities clearly calling themselves Christians and not living it. Gives the wrong impression to unbelievers. Thank you ♥️
MO
I agree also. Basically all Pop Christianity is Ancient Gnosticism...achieving Salvation of the Mind.There is nothing New about the New Age. "What was will be again..there is nothing New under the Sun."(Ecclesiastes 1:9)
He said “I could talk about this all day” . Please Id love to hear and learn. If u talk all year, I’ll be here my brother. And thank you. I am so blessed to have found your channel
When I was in my young 20s I studied with JWs. You had to study, go thru tests and go door to door. My poor husband on our 1st Christmas got our tree and decorated it. On Christmas Eve I gave up, went Christmas shopping for the family. I was looking for God.
I talked with Mormans a few times. Finally when I was 26 a friend asked me to a new church and I FINALLY heard the Gospel!!
Too bad it was a super fundamental church, cared more on the outside appearance instead of the heart.
Was out of church for a while and finally found a good one that teaches the Gospel and we are involved in all kinds of help to the community.
This past Easter 115 were saved. We had 4 different services. That's good for me, I go on Sat at 5 pm. It's a large church but not a large church. They teach all books of the Bible each year in classes thru the year. We have Life Groups-Im in a ladies divorces group. We do fun things but also help out where needed in the church. We have prayer groups once a week and before each service.
I just found yalls site today and I love it. Praise God.❤🙏
I was in the Mormon church for 11 years. We were also told not to google the church. It was only when an evangelist shared the true gospel with me that my eyes were opened.
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:14 ESV
It seems like pretty clear teaching that the Word WAS God, and the Word was God the Son.
Also, we do technically believe that you don't HAVE to keep the Ten Commandments, mainly because only God can, and salvation is not earned by works(Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 11:6, multiple other places). We do try to keep them, and you also, unless you are God, which you aren't, have failed to keep the Ten Commandments.
Also, I'm not sure why I would believe you anyway, considering that your username claims that you are lies. You can keep rejecting God if you want, but you're just going to suffer for eternity. Don't try to pull others into that fate.
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 No, God did not say he was created. You just made that up. He says there was no god formed before him. You just, I don't know, forgot to read the words "no" and "nor."
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013 For the "soul" verse, why did you put in parentheses "body" next to "soul?" If it's the same word in Hebrew, then it probably means soul, not body. If not, then you're making it up. As for "heart," it's a figure of speech. If I say "You are making my heart hurt," do you think I mean that you gave me a heart attack? No, it either means you made me sad or I love you, depending on the context. As for the men, why do you assume that God would have to defecate after eating? He literally made everything from nothing, and you think he couldn't defy human bodily functions? Also, it's HUMAN bodily functions, so obviously God wouldn't need them. Oh and also, why would it matter?
Let's get serious here. You are blinded by your hatred of God. You might not think you hate God, but you basically couldn't misinterpret some of those verses worse. I can't get out of the English Bible yet, because I don't know Hebrew, though I've been meaning to try to learn it. And guess what? Most people don't know Hebrew either. Shocker.
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013😊
@@Thevoiceinthewilderness2013Oh, you keep the Law? Which ones do you keep? Do you keep the two greatest laws? Please help me understand.
To Pas Allen and Pas Mike...
MAHALO PLENTY for all you do. The longer videos are THE BEST!!!!! I listen on my job, while cooking, while driving, and more! My husband, son and I have discussions around the long videos. People have many, many options for short videos. The internet is loaded with shorts, short vids, etc. The students, the thinkers, the workers, the debaters... WE LOVE THEM. DO MORE! 🙏🏼🕊
Two spiritual and educated men of god. Amazing job brothers well done for putting this video together 👏
This was a great message! It’s difficult to navigate through these religions and this was helpful. Thank you!
You both did an excellent job!! I found Mike’s channel years ago and its been a blessing!!Pray that someone’s heart was opened to the truth of God and His Son Jesus Christ!! Keep standing on the wall!! MayGod continue to bless and favor you and your ministries!
This has been so helpful to me after just leaving Jehovah’s Witnesses. Thank you and God Bless your efforts. Keep on preaching Scripture! I just wish I could get my hands on that interlinear Bible. I used to have it. Another good book to read is by Raymond Franz. Crisis Of Conscience. He was part of the governing body for nine years.!
What a blessing to have found this site! I have studied with so many different denominations and the majority of the major religious groups only to find deception in each of them! I love my family and friends and want them to understand the"Why, When,Who,and most importantly the truth of Gods word! I could never explain as clearly as you both have in this awesome video why there are so many different denominations and yet all claim to be Christian! You both have rebooted my faith and love of the Lord! Bless you both for helping people to understand and navigate through the maze of false or altered Christianity! I'm writing as you speak so I hope you will be exposing the motivational, feel good speakers that tickle the ears of their flock! Bless you both!
Glad they have helped you rebooted your Faith. You should actually rely more on God . These men have no prophetic and apostolic authority. They misinterpret God's words as well and though their deceptions are not obviously intentional, they too are deceivers as they do not have the truth. They are leaning on their own understanding which is carnal. God's dealings are all spiritual and they can't fathom that. Everything is about what the human mind tells them.
The Pharisees and Sadducees have something in common with them. They rejected everything Jesus taught that was not in the 5 Books of Moses. Just like them rejecting anything that they don't understand in the Bible. God never told us that all his revelation was in the Bible. The Bible have been corrupted and it started with the Catholic church who kept some of the books away from the masses and changed and added many things.
The evangelical community are as lost as the ones they criticize except the one that has the only direct line of authority which is the one and only true church Jesus created.
When it comes to your salvation, don't risk anything with what you hear except trust God and seek answers through prayer to him so he can set you on the right path. God warned us about false preachers and y'all accept and believe them as it makes sense to your flesh. The Catholics and the Evangelical communities are the biggest false churches and believers. There is NO UNITY in their doctrines, teachings or belief system, but yet they only point fingers at the ones that they put outside and reject as Christians. It should make sense to your spirit because the Gospel is spiritual. No human philosophies can match it.
Don't risk believing something against the only true church that it is a cult when it actually isnt. Jesus was falsely accused of being the devil because he was teaching outside of the 5 Books of Moses which the Jews only accepted. Seek confirmation from God through sincere prayer and listen for the answers from the Holy Spirit that teaches the only truth. The Bible isn't the only book that God gave us. The Bible actually says out of the mouth of 2-3 witnesses shall every word be established. Pray about it, read it before you falsely judge it.
Hello, I am a PK raised in a non-denominational Christian church. I was baptized at the young age of 13 and had an innocent zeal for the Lord. One thing my father taught me was to always search for the truth. So, in college I took a religion course, where I found out later the professor was an atheist (go figure). 🥴 We discussed several religions, where the eyes of my understanding were opened wide and my belief in Christ was solidified.
After that class and certain life experiences, I rededicated my life to Christ as a young adult with a better understanding of my relationship with God through Christ.
One thing that stuck with me in that class is the idea of divine beings existing as trinities or triads long predating Christianity. 😮 🤔 In that class we took a deep dive into Catholicism/Constantine, which were not founded on the principles of Christ. All Christian denominations came from Catholicism, which is a whole other topic of discussion, which Mike touched upon briefly.
Consequently, I don’t believe the Most High and Christ called their church Christianity. The Bible reads in the book of Acts 11:26 The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. Christ just said he was the way back to our Heavenly Father, so follow him. Christ only did what the Most High commanded him to do!
I believe the Bible is the truth. I also believe that the powers of this world removed books from the Bible, because they are relevant (ie., The Book of Jasher - referenced in Joshua 10:12-13, 2 Samuel 1:18-27, and 2 Timothy 3:8).
All that said, I agree with most of your points. One question to you is if Christ is God, then how can he be the example for me to follow? Christ continuously stated he was doing the will of his Father. He even said on the cross, “Father, why has thou forsaken me”. (Matthew 26:47) Was Christ actually saying, why have I forsaken myself?🤔
That’s all I have. 🤪
I pray that God continues to bless you and keep you in His perfect peace!
I call pop Christianity the "woke church" where everybody have their own truth and nothing is absolute.
so true and there are popular "Christian" youtubers that fall in this category
Um, be careful with that term. It's far more dangerous than you think! YT channels Center for Biblical Unity and All the Things have a lot of info on the woke church 😟😞😢
Ikr. It can definitely be comparable to the "woke church" and it's extremely popular now too. Kinda like what he's saying too like the ones who act New Agey. It's so dangerous.
Whats the woke church
So very accurate,a slow poison working its way through the whole batch, to paraphrase one of jesus's descriptions of the pharisees teaching.
Love, love, love this. Thank you both for all you do to equip the church.
Alan, I just wanted to tell you that what you’re doing here on TH-cam is a blessing to me. I am glad that you are in lighting me with things to look out for. You are so right in so many levels. Like Elevation Church I used to enjoy listening to him Mr. Steven Furtick until y’all made it clear about how he directs everything towards his family and himself and I caught that after it was brought to my attention. Thank you again and keep up all the good work that you’re doing. You are a blessing to society. Thank you.
This was is an in depth, informative blessing. It is a wonderful study of how to love and pray for family and friends, in knowing in detail, their beliefs and traditional doctrines. This is so necessary and all these doctrines and belief needed to be lengthy and not rushed through, so we can reach people for Almighty God's Kingdom and Biblical Truths.
God Bless you both 🙏🙏
Wonderful colab! I’m so glad there are solid Christians out there boldly standing up for The Faith delivered to us through the Word of God. ❤️
they also are not real christians. real christians are CALLED in the Church of God. NOT just anywhere you like.
@@minterbell who are you talking about?
@@tylynn256 i am talking about the 2 guys on the video. they do not understand what they preach. they just rely on their OWN thinking.
@Jacob Posego
I know you will refuse to answer any of the 8 questions---There is NO Scripture to prove your opinions.-----
#1--Where in scripture is there any verses that states GOD RESTED-----BLESSED & --Made holy Sunday,the first day of the week??????????
#2---IF--I say again--IF the Sabbath was changed--why did Christ NOT tell anyone---His disciples?
#3--IF----IF the Sabbath was changed--why did Christ NOT tell HIS followers?????
#4---If the Sabbath was changed, why did the Phaisees NOT know about it?????
#5----Why was there nothing in prophesy in the OT about a change?????
#6---Which part of the BIBLE says "Mary was sinless"?
#7--Which part of the BIBLE says "full of grace = sinless"?
#8---Which part of the BIBLE says "Mary was free from Original Sin"?
@@minterbell quote----i am talking about the 2 guys on the video. they do not understand what they preach. they just rely on their OWN thinking.--unquote------
Really?What are you doing? The Same--opinions---PROVE your opinions with FACTS---scripture!!!!
Man, my two favorite biblical TH-cam channels in 1 video? That's what I'm talking about!
That’s what I was going to say! 😅
Seriously! Just discovered Allen Parr about a week ago (I think actually it was somehow obliquely through a Mike Winger video), and they are just wonderful men of God doing such an important ministry!!
Same! 😅
Agreed!!!
If you like this 2 you are going to love dr. Michael brown
You guys are the real deal!
That was an excellent and brave video.
Ephesians 4:1 - 6
So glad to have two of my favourite TH-camrs in the same video. I split a lot of my time between your channels and this is such a treat!
Yes!!
Yup
Many thanks Allen & Mike!!! Very intuitive video. It has been important for me to know about more of other doctrines and beliefs. I went from being born into Catholicism to LDS for two years until a little over 2 years ago . I’m so thankful that I was challenged to read the New Testament as a child by a Baptist Pastor. I happy to say after several months and getting my name off the LDS records I was baptized at our local Baptist Church. I’ve been watching you both for months and will keep watching. Thanks again my two brothers and God Bless you both and your ministry. Amen 🙏🏻
Very happy for you brother
Please pray for my husband's Catholic family to get saved. Thanks.
I testify to you that the day will come where you will have the biggest regret by allowing yourself to be deceived where you leaned unto your own understanding and the deception of satan led you astray into the false church that have no direct line of prophetic and apostolic authority. Jesus organized his 1 true church and it must have the Priesthood Authority, a Prophet and 12 Apostles. Where is that in your new found false church? It can all be tested against all scriptures, even the Bible. The Bible is God's dealings with 1 group of people. God dealt with many more. There are 12 tribes and the same gospel must be taught to everyone so they can be judged the same when that time comes. You ever wonder why satan is working so hard to persecute the true church that Jesus created because there is none other. I pray you will find your way back to the Church of Jesus Christ and not the one created by men named after them. There are many who are finding their way back as they got distracted by the world and walked away from the covenanted path and the iron rod to that spacious building where the deceiver lives. I pray you will ask the new church you joined to explain how they inherited the authority from the 12 apostles that Jesus called and gave them power. That power must be passed to the next. It cannot be assumed. There must be a literal transfer. Just because someone picks a specific part of the Bible that they preached on that you weren't familiar with doesn't lend to them being recognized by God. The Scriptures already told us that the false preachers will also quote and read from the Bible and they will be convincing if you don't seek answers from God. The devil is very cunning and crafty. Don't rely on what makes sense to your flesh which is how the devil operates. Praying for you as I know you want to be right with God. Human beings makes mistakes everyday. God is forgiving when we do. He's not the author of the 46,000 different Christian denominations. Jesus only created 1 church and there is unity all around the globe.
Cults have enough truth mixed in with their lies that it makes them dangerous!! 😟
@@jeffmartinek9969 Jesus did not start Christianity. A Christian is simply a follower of Christ. No need to make it complicated. Pretty simple.
@@jeffmartinek9969
It actually started as a derogatory label. This was then adopted as a badge of honour.
I agree that a Christian is a follower of Christ. And this is rather simple. I’m not sure why you need to complicate it.
@@dianetigert1310 I know right... most churches I’ve been to encourage that non repentance so called sinners prayer, the modern day Christian church of today 🙄
@@lionoffireministries ye are of your father the devil when he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it
(john 8:44)
The WICKED flee when nl man pursueth but the RIGHTEOUS are bold as a lion
(proverb 28:1)
(Romans 9:13) jacob have i loved but Esaw have i hated
Can somebody please make a Video about Ethiopian orthodox Christians because their bible is made up of 88 books and and it has more than 80 million followers 😳 and they claim its a 1000 years old religion
Thank you. This word was SO for me. Thank you Jesus!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾 This word from the Lord us confirmation. God bless you and thank you for your ministry ❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽
Two online pastors that God has used greatly in helping me through some tough times. Really great to see them in a video together.
That was fabulously valuable and well-done, gentlemen! So worth the time. Thank you so much! I was unfamiliar with y'all, but have noticed superior TH-cam "suggestions" since I started watching The Chosen : ) Yay, Jesus!!!
I'm a Adventist and I've been going to the SDA church for 15+ years. I want to kindly comment on the portion of the video about the SDA.
1.) On the E.G.White and her interpretations forming the doctrine of the church. Well first SDA's got the Sabbath teaching from the Seventh Day Baptists, which was studied by Joseph Bates. E.G.White accepted the sabbath and several years after that got a vision on that topic. About the Hell, SDA's were influenced by the Methodist preacher George Storrs. About the unique SDA doctrine the sanctuary it was studied by Hiram Edson and others. The investigative jugment came just by understanding the sanctuary. So the primary SDA doctrines are not given by vision from E.G.White but are know through bible study by various people.
2.) About the mark of the beast. Evangelicals today believe mainly in futurism, rapture, third temple etc. This teaching was popularized by John Nelson Darby. Before that almost all protestants believed that papacy is the antichrist like Luther for example. After 1844 evangelicals slowly abandoned the historicist prophecy interpretation, probably to distance themselves from the SDA.
3.) About the 10 commandments, well they are found in the ark of the covenant. So if you understand the sanctuary you'll find the law in the very center.
Wells said and well condensed too while also correcting his statements. Amen
The papacy changed the times (interpretation of prophecy) and the law as prophesied in Daniel 7:25.
Right under the mercy seat, guarded by Cherubim. You lot never give up. That would be a good thing, if you loved the truth. Never mind your traditions, what is St. Paul saying in Romans about the Law? This is the meat and potatoes of the Christian faith. You all love the salad bar.
Amén 🙏🏽 Love this ! Glory to the Most High ♥️
Well clarified, be blessed.
Thank you! Very relevant, especially the last one. We need more conversations on this one.
C.S. Lewis was friends with J.R.R. Tolkien, who was a Roman Catholic and Lewis considered him a fellow Christian believer.
You seem to be missing the difference between individuals and the organization.
Thank you so much Allen & Mike! Have the highest respect for both of you! God bless & continue to use you to rescue lost souls but also teaching all of us to know our Lord as best as we could. His Lordship & His Word. These 2 principles are indeed the ground we must stand on & uphold. ❤️👍🏽
28:40: "Does that make Jesus a Trumpet?"🤣! //
This might be the most helpful lesson I've ever received in all my 54yrs. Thank you both SO SO VERY MUCH!! What a ginormous blessing!!!
Christ be with you
Can't speak for the other religions but they know nothing of Catholicism.
God bless you
These long videos are the best! I’m doing everything while listening
Thank you both, Mike and Allen! This kind of content and biblical, solid, honest conversation is so needful and beneficial.
Have these guys ever used the term "Replacement Theology" ?
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants?
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
Loved this. I will not get tired watching this video on repeat. May this video reach many and open their eyes and hearts to the truth.
Psalm 46:7: “The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress.”
😂 a 2 hour video with Mike Winger is NOT a short video compared to his others. I love Mike and his thoroughness, but I appreciate getting to the point as well. :)
Great Stream Allen and Mike Winger! You knocked it out park! Loved the insights you guys made about these groups. May the Holy Spirit continue to Minister Joy, Truth, and compassion!
The spirit is also for teaching the bible and if you throw out a saturday sabbath you follow the Roman Catholic Pope a Dope and follow Rome and not scripture. From what I know these fellows are not obeying god in the sabbath doctrine and are semilawless in their practice based on their channels content that I have seen thus far. The sabbath predates the law.
@@tralfazruk1
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Hello Mr. Investigative Judgement
#1
Are your sins BLOTTED out ?
Yes....or.....No....
#2
How come NOT ONCE on ANY of these threads have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ?
#3
Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED paid in FULL sins BLOTTED out FINAL payment paid in FULL ?
Yes.....or.....No.....
#4
Are you on Probation ?
Yes... or.....No...
#5
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ ?
#6
Have ANY of your
Seventh day Adventist literature
Seventh day Adventist authorities
Seventh day Adventist Theologians have EVER said that the writings of Ellen G White are EQUAL with the Holy Bible of God's word ?
Yes.....or......No....
#7
Are the writings of Ellen G White AS indelibly AS the LAW of God written by his finger upon the tables of stone ?
Yes.....or......No.....
#8
Did Ellen G White EVER PROMOTE having a CHRISTMAS TREE on CHRISTMAS DAY in EVERY SINGLE Seventh day Adventist church ?
Yes......or......No.....
#9
Does Adventism MIMIC Catholicism in any way.....?
Yes.....or......No.
#10
Does Adventism MIMIC Mormonism in any way ?
Yes......or......No.....
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY!
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
I'm a Christian but one of my closest friends is a Hebrew Israelite. After he came back from a 4 year tour in Iraq, he had become a man with a mixture of emotions. First Allen is very correct about their biblical knowledge. His sect mainly focuses on the Old Testament, but they do read the New Testament to try and discredit Jesus's divine power and all he did and died for. I'm probably more knowledgeable in the Old Testament, but I'm still studying to strengthen my New Testament knowledge ( help me to grow Lord); however him and one of his Hebrew Israelites wanted to debate me for over an hour; and we were at my boy's BBQ. When they wouldn't stop, I had move on.
So for his sect of Hebrew Israelites, they hold a lot anger towards whites, and even black Christians that don't share their views. Even saw a couple of them go out their way to buy two pictures of a painting of White Jesus and stomp and crush them. Not all Hebrew Israelites are the same like Allen said, but the ones in my city(OKC) show a lot of animosity towards whites it's a shame.. Sometimes whites have even tried to approach them and ask why they have anger to them, and they'll cuss at them and say disrespectful terms to them. I've heard biracial blacks ask them questions about how God views their white parents, man; they're not respectful at all. As far my boy, they've changed his views about race so much it's a shame. His mother even Asked me to talk to him, but he won't budge. He even refuses to go to the good old Baptist Church he was raised in because he thinks black Churches have been blinded.. With that being said I want to give love to all my Christian brothers from every race. My teenage daughters are biracial (black and white) and they attend my Life church in OKC, and my home Church ( First AME), and they love both them..🙏👍
On another note, after my divorce, I met a nice looking woman who tried to lure me into their ideology but I couldn't do it. I really liked her but I felt like the holy Spirit was warning to stay away from her. I didn't want to end up like King Solomon and worshipping a false religion..
Would you ever talk to a Hebrew Israelite like me? I give you license to ask me anything about my faith .
Let them stomp on the pictures because we all know it's not him. Don't let them shake you. Stay strong and faithful to the true doctrine.
If the blood of Christ is the sacrifice for our sins and Hebrew Israelites follow Old Testament law not accepting Christs blood sacrifice as he hadn’t yet died for our sins then. Do Hebrew Israelites sacrifice?
@@johnfoster5489 Scholars know that the Essene Jesus did not believe in separation of the spirit from the body after death. Paul Adopted that Idea from the Egyptians and Greeks. He tacked those Ancient Ideas on to Deifying Jesus as a Pagan Idol so that more Greeks would accept the Idea of Deifying Jesus through Christianity to set up the Luciferian Vatican. In Hebrew, in Judaism, in Jewish History, the story of Issac is not a foreshadowing of sacrifice. Why? Simply because of Mistranslation: Issac was brought "TO" the altar, he was not "PUT ON" the altar. Isaiah, Psalms, Jeremiah were Mistranslated from their Real Meaning. Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 are not proof texts. Pagan Paul was no more "Jewish" than Justin Bieber is Amish. The book of Revelation was written about the Destruction of the Jewish Temple. It only became a Prophetic book after the French Revolution. The Old Testament forbids Eschatology, Demonology and Witchcraft, that is why Christians mostly focus on the New Testament. The practice of digging up "Saints" who have "incorrupted bodies" is an Ancient practice that went from Egyptians to Buddhist monks to Catholics to the Voodoo priests. The "Christian" Catholics don't know or respect the Old Testament, so they don't know that digging up a corpse and putting it on display and praying to it is Ancient Witchcraft, because Christians follow Justin Bieber type Paul. Christians don't worship God. They follow the Ancient Pagan Heathen Rituals of an Amalgamation of Paul's Visions. Paul never knew Jesus and the Essene Jesus would have hated the Idea of Wifeless Priests. This goes against the Old Testament. If Christians talked to a Literate Scholar, they would realize that Attaching the New Testament to the Old Testament is not only Antisemitic, it's not "A Prophecy". It's a Cult that Disobeys God and the teachings of Jesus.
@@johnfoster5489 THE ANSWER IS IN MAT 1:21 Jesus (YAHAWASHAI) came to save his people who we know are ISRAEL. Only Israel was promised a reedemer because only Israel broke the law given to them. DUET 28:15. so christ came and died for Israel because Israel broke the law. so we do accept and are careful not to presumptuously sin because the value we place on the sacrifice made by YAHAWASHAI. it says this in Hebrews 10:26 If we deliberately go on sinning after we have receive.........and we know sin is trangression of the law1st john 3:4 AND YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL IF YOU CONTINUE SINNING1st JOHN 3:8
IT TOOK US YEARS AND STUDYING GOD'S WORD TO UNDERSTAND THAT "RELIGIONS ARE SLAVERY, BUT CHRISTIANITY IS FREEDOM". WE NEED JESUS CHRIST......PLUS NOTHING ELSE TO SAVE US. 6/12/21
Religion = religare = connection with God
@Mike Flanagan The catholic church is the church Christ founded
@@ker7508 Where in the gospels did Jesus found a church? When he said "On this rock I will build my church" doesn't count because it's future tense meaning it looks forward and you can't say he built the Catholic church as the Holy Spirit because the spirit is described as a guide for the apostles not the apostle; Peter, Paul and the rest aren't Jesus or the Holy Spirit. Besides Peter and Paul had theological disagreements therefore proving the church wasn't united which is what the word Catholic meant in Latin. The church wasn't called Catholic until The Council of Nicea, and then you just have men whether led by the spirit or not, forming the church into one large conglomerate instead of regional variants. Now does this discredit the Catholic church isn't for me to say but it does put your claim to the test.
@@TheRichandmighty Matthew 16:18-19 "You are Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH." Yes it counts. When does he build it? I agree its future tense and without the Spirit it cannot be the Church of Christ. Let's read the book of acts. Acts 1 the Spirit falls on them! That's when the church is formed, and look at how God uses Peter specifically as the instrument through which he continues to build his church. Acts 2 God uses Peter to preach a sermon that converts 3000 people ! Acts 2:41. Acts 3 God uses Peter to heal a beggar. So he not only converted his hearts, but this was another opportunity for other hearts to be converted and be incorporated to the church. Acts 4 Peter explains and takes the chance to say it was by the authority of Jesus christ that the beggar was healed. Acts 5 Peter rebukes Ananias and his wife. Read in acts and pay attention to when they mention the apostles, its "Peter and the 12" peter is set apart and even in the gospel list of apostles it says "first Peter." Acts 8 peter and john are transmitting the holy spirit by the imposition of hands, but Peter is the one to speak on behalf of the apostles and rebukes simon. Acts 9 God uses Peter heals people. Acts 10 Peter commands gentiles to be baptized and everyone listens to him. And to top it all off who settles the issue of circumcision in acts 15? PETER.
@@TheRichandmighty "the church wasnt called catholic until the council of nicea". False. Lies. Read st ignatius of Antioch letter to the symrnaeans (chapter 8 verse 2) year 107 he calls the church CATHOLIC and says where the BISHOPS AND PRESBYTERS (WHICH IS WHERE WE GET THE WORD "PRIEST") AND DEACONS AND THE HOLY EUCHARIST THERE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I appreciate the hard work that went into this video. God bless you guys!
On pop Christianity, I can’t tell you how many feathers I ruffle when speaking on humility and people boast of self confidence/love that contradicts even how the Bible defines humility. That humility is making less of yourself and denying even your needs at time to serve others when you have them fulfilled. It’s becoming a grossly popular teaching that Jesus wants you to be successful and to take self love days because you can’t help others if X. When in reality we are never filled up by anything but Christ!! Yes rest, have a spa day to relax all that’s good but don’t claim those things fill you up to do the work of Christ when that’s something that comes from the living water r
Very true.
The greatest enemy is self.
@Justin Gary FACTS
Amen. That's the biggest difference I see between true and false Christianity. True Christianity is 'others first' for Jesus' sake. False Christianity is 'self first'.
Facts!
This would be AMAZING as a dvd to give out!!! You two are awesome together. More please. What I love is the “truth in love “ way you present this.
Lies n more lies and you know it cut it out with the this would be a great CD crap
@@johnconklin1039 what lies they're telling the truth about everything about all these cults
@@conflictortiz8906 hello
@@johnconklin1039
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Mormonism 1830
Adventism 1863
Jehovah's Witnesses 1875
ALL....of these three New 19th century FALSE religions are the
UNHOLY Trinity
How AWESOME! My heart breaks for a lot of people. As the wife of a pastor, and trying to lead people deeper, it is a tough job. It takes more than just us...it take the power of the Holy Spirit! Thank God for the strength and wisdom that he pours into you both. You’re both a great blessing to me. There are not a lot of female teachers that I care to follow. I do try hard to glean your lessons. Thank you! God bless you both.🙌🏻
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Are you a Seventh day Adventist?
Just saw this podcast and it was excellent. Thanks a lot for such a respectful exposition with references from the main sources. Great job!
Awesome work guys! When my wife divorced me it was so hard living the life without sex and I had failed and asked for forgiveness for that. I am married to a wonderful Christian woman now! We both hold each other accountable. Actually our first kiss was at the altar. Thanks for your ministry guys! I grew up Catholic so I could get into a lot of the details you guys did which is really sad about the works salvation and having to do the sacrememts just right and confess to the priests and them tell you how many hail Marys to say or our fathers. It's awesome all we have to do is go to God almighty! And confess to him only
I fail to understand how intelligent people can continue to stay with the Catholic Church despite the pedophile priests cover up and to “worship” that man in Rome! Guys wake up he is just a mere man! You can communicate directly with God because Jesus has torn the “veil” that separated us. Jesus is our Mediator not the pope and priests!! Blinded by Satan!
The first thing neededto be valadated is the new test itself before you go startin buildind anything the 4 gosples. Were unamed for hundreds of years the catholic church slaped names on them fianally but their not apostlistic thats what counts...half of pauls writtings are in question the writing style and timing dont match pauls other letters acts hebrews dont have names their only guesing on who wrote them the book of rev wasnt added until 530 ad way after the other nt books it was approved by a pope by the way...the trinity was only voted on in 525ad if they the cath church voted on a doctrine like that ..that means they didnt know for sure jesus deity and relationship to the father yet dahhhh 500 years had gone by i though these christions had the spirit to lead them into all truth.. No they didnt and you better questiin the trinity doctrine look who it came from. The cinstantine led cath fallen rome church...yoy better questiion your religion first father son spirit doctrine came from greek pagan religeon the jews never worship a three part God...the rabbis say today theyve had 2000 too search this out your worship a cath contrived god...that why its called the roman cath church its roman and greek..the first cent christians didnt see jesus as god almighty .paul said five times in one letter the god and father of the lord jesus christ the father is jesus god there is no trinity..jesus said on cross my what.. God why have you fosaken....me. Your still following the mother of harlots..see revelation..also where was jesus for 18 yrs all goslpels have missing..see book the lost years of jesus by elizabeth clare prophet...wow research yout religeon first ask rabbis for their input on christian histiry the jews have been here since moses your pastor hasnt take their input their not liers...thanx
@@donwrasse6841
The Trinity is revealed all throughout the Old Testament, not only in the New Testament.
Have you read the entire Bible?
If you have then you cannot deny how perfectly the New and Old testaments work together and form a perfect picture of Yah's love in sending His precious Son to die for us.
This powerful God can speak to you personally if you truly seek Him from a place of humbleness. The only way you can pray to the Father is through the Son, He is our only Mediator and Savior.
@@Ryan-qh7ed i question the existence of a god science seems to point to one as most people understand them doesn't exist
@@robjackson4050 You question the existence of God for what reason?
Thank you brother Allen and brother Mike for your very hard work, you are such a blessing for our generation 🩵🩵🩵
I am a Protestant minister in training and been dating and called to a woman who is culturally Catholic. It’s been challenging but we have humbly submitted to the word of God , and truly been a blessing understand Catholics and the Catholic Church better . I agree 100% it has to be individualized when it comes to them and now we are together evangelizing to the Catholic Church but also helping the Protestant church understand the Catholic Church better thank you both men , and continue to pray for us as we truly try to strive and glorify God through it all .
Excellent.
I am just a Christian and don't consider myself anything but that, and engaged to someone who grew up in Roman Catholic church. I've discussed this challenging stuff and we came to an agreement that there is a lot of problems in it. I don't recognize the authority of Rome at all, BUT, I do think God uses it to lead people to Christ, even if not everyone in it is saved or their doctrines is truly lined up biblically. So I've approached it with grace. Show Christ through it all, He is our Lord
@@Andromedon777 How hard was it for you to get her/him to realize that Jesus wants a really personal relationship with that person? I, too am dating a Catholic man and he always bows his head before a meal... does understand the gospel... but IMO hasn’t experienced a close relationship and is not inspired to grow in the knowledge and grace of Jesus.... makes me so sad
@@dorothygrantham4370 Well, I felt very confident in her relationship with Christ from the beginning. I think she is a perfect example of someone who has a personal relationship with Christ while under the Roman system. Remember, we're dealing with humans and each is their own case with Christ. Religion is irrelevant,l. All God cares about is if you have a relationship with Christ or not.
With that in mind, my point is not universalism, but that there are those saved and unsaved in all churches who fit under the Christian title. So you will have people on fire for Christ in the most stoich or churches, and those who appear saved in your "Hillsong" churches but their faith is shallow or nonexistent.
Work on the love of Christ with him. Show him who our God is and How grace. If you have questions, drop them here. I enjoy sharing the love of Christ and little pockets of info I've learned.
God be with you!
@Ethan Howard
RCC Church is paganism. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump! Their doctrines are not of God, so, so many.
@Mzansi Queen No. Just no...
And no duh the 3 members of the trinity are 3 separate persons. But they comprise of One God. Thanks for telling us Christians what we've declared to the world since the beginning. You've accomplished nothing
Most of what you guys said on this program were very good. You were right on point. You were very successful in separating the false Churches from the true church. Keep up the good work. God bless. Apostle R.
With regards to allen commenting on the extra books Catholics have. We share those same books with the eastern and oriental orthodox church. It was the protestants who removed those books because they falsely believed that the masoretic texts are correct which excludes the extra books) When in fact the masoretic texts were codified (as proposed by some scholars) by the jews after Jesus' time. During Jesus' ministry the Scriptures present and available at that time and was considered canon, and divinely inspired, did contain the extra books. In fact the new testament often quotes the septuagint as it was the widely used version of the old testament at the time.
That is what the early christians held as sacred Scripture. So to remove them would have been heresy to the early christians in the first century.
Wrong the other books were removed because they were all late writings and far from the belief of earlier writings
@@paulk9972
They have been dated to as early as a few centuries before Christ. With fragments of some of the books found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
They were removed by Rabbinic Judaism as Jews who followed Christ points to these as evidence of Jesus as Messiah. Therefore when the Masoretic Texts were codfied AFTER Christ, they did not include these books.
restlesspilgrim.net/blog/2014/09/06/quick-apology-the-deuterocanon/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books
Note your own comment said some scholars. Please expound your take on that. If your orthodox you reject the pope of Rome. Please expound on your church affiliation.
@@tralfazruk1 i am Catholic, but that doesn't take away from the issue about the Deuterocanincals. The Orthodox also recognize papal primacy, but ONLY as first among equals and not Papal Supremacy. Still the bishop of rome, descendant of Peter does hold a unique and special office.
Regardless, the issue of Deuterocanincals, all the ancient christian groups (catholic, eastern Orthodox and oriental orthodox) recognize it. Only protestants have removed it based on the Masoretic Texts.
@Jacob Posego i agree with you my friend
Totally enjoyed this conversation. Clarity of message and presented the facts in positive and inoffensive manner. Good work both of you.
The roman catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ
You and Mike Winger did an awesome job!! To God be the glory!! Keep the good news coming!! I listened to every drop!! No fast forwarding for me!! I need to hear it all!
Wow, this is such a cool thing to see you guys together in one video, God bless you guys and I pray for more laborers in the field, for the harvest is plenty but the laborers are few thus saith our Lord Jesus. He is coming soon!
1:01:38 - 1:27:00 Already looking forward to seeing Trent Horn’s response
same
Agree…..Trent and Jimmy Akins
Who are Trent Horn and Jimmy Akins? Do they belong to one of the groups talked about in this video?
@@elijahmorris9864 Catholic apologists
@@jamesfahey5686 Thanks. I will look at these two TH-camrs. I am SDA and I have thought about making a series of response videos for Allen Parr’s videos on SDAs.
Very interesting! Loved it! God bless you both! Keep doing your part in spreading the Gospel for the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ!
The key distinction with SDA and Mainline Evangelicals is the fact that the SDA Church believes that the law that is written in our hearts that Jesus spoke about is THE law that has always existed, outlined in the Ten Commandments. Through that lens, the Sabbath would be in the same platform as the commandments against having other gods and murder. Nobody argues that willful murderers go to heaven. SDAs treat the Sabbath commandment with the same reverence as the other 9. Although it isn’t the way to Salvation, a saved and born again Christian should be observing the Sabbath like God intended them to.
Amen!!!
EGW esteems the 4th commandment above and beyond the others.
@@paisleyplaid4074 focusing on the commandment and reminding people to observe it is different from elevating it higher than others. The fourth commandment is the only commandment that starts with “remember” which shows you God’s warning that people will forget. Mrs. White talks plenty about living a sanctified life in Christ. That includes all the other commandments. To be wholistic in our obedience, we mustn’t forget any one of them.
@@jamesncardenas post the scripture that says nonisraelites are to keep the commandments- ill wait
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(Exodus 31:16-17) speak unto the children of ISRAEL that they are to keep the Sabbath thruout their generation it is a perpetual covenant between me and the children of ISRAEL FOREVER
(Psalm 147:19-20) he showeth his word unto jacob his statues n judgements unto ISRAEL he hath NOT delt so with any nation and as for his judgements they have not known them
Both Islam n Christianity are of Satan no scripture says be a muslim mormon baptist sda Pentecostal Catholic etc the bible nor God have anything to do with religion.
@@johnconklin1039 following the same logic, can you cite pre Israel any command to follow certain commandments which are clearly defined? Biblical exegesis is understanding the context without looking for word for word commands to follow them.
Thank you so much for this very informative necessary video. Would you kindly shed more light on the Orthodox Church?
Re Mormons: A couple of sweet, young missionaries came to my door, and I talked with them (outside.) They proclaimed that they were Christians and believed in the Bible. I said, "Oh good! I'm so glad because Galatians 1:8 says that if we or an angel of heaven preach a doctrine that is different, let him be accursed." What I got in response was that "deer in the headlights" look. I always wonder if these Bible quotes I use on them and the JW's reaches even just a little bit of their hearts. I hope so.
Great response!
Perhaps the appeal of JWs and Mormons is that they live clean lives.
What a mean-hearted response you have. Did our Lord not command us to love our neighbors? How are you sharing the LOVE of Christ?
@@nanizon
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How was that a terrible non - loving remark ?
The love is Christ is to share the
REAL GOSPEL.....and NOT some
FAKE Gospel that these New 19th century FALSE religions proclaim
Mormonism 1830
Adventism 1863
Jehovah's Witnesses 1875
Do you know what the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is ?
Let me share with you the REAL truth of the REAL Gospel....
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
DEATH
BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of
Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY !
Mormonism
Adventism
Jehovah's Witnesses don't share the REAL LOVE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
They take unsuspecting people from different religions and lead them straight to HELL.....that is not love
this is so good lol
This was a very good teaching. I really appreciate it. Please continue with the good work of declaring, the true gospel.
Romans 3:20 KJV ✝️🙏
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:28 KJV ✝️🙏
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law!
Romans 5:1 KJV ✝️🙏
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 4:5 KJV ✝️🙏
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Galatians 2:16 KJV ✝️🙏
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no man be justified!
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV ✝️🙏
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 11:6 KJV ✝️🙏
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Galatians 2:21 KJV ✝️🙏
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Philippians 3:9 KJV ✝️🙏
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
John 1:12 KJV ✝️🙏
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.
John 5:24 KJV ✝️🙏
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Romans 4:1-25 ✝️🙏🦁🐑📖❤️🕊️⛪🩸
1 Peter 3:15
“But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord.c Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect”
Loved this!! Couldn’t even tell it was 2 hours, great stuff!!
Before even watching: I REALLLLLLLLYYYY _reaaaaallllyyy_ , *really* 🥺 hope that the "mother god" group is discussed because They Are On The Move!!!
I'll come back after I complete the video 😎
So, ngl several days later after having finally been able to complete the entire vid, I was disappointed initially that "god the mother" religion was NOT the 6th most concerning religion out there, _however_ I actually think that y'all's selected group is extremely concerning and has been far more of a stumbling block towards so many people that I know, and so ty two, really enjoyed your vid!
They hit on it a bit showing the newage in pop Christianity. There's several out there. Here's one I recently watched.
th-cam.com/video/_f8fotz5GUo/w-d-xo.html
@@jelynn6463 Thank You!!
What an encouraging conversation I got to listen into. Thank you Mike and Allen for putting this together, especially that last group! I just had a conversation with a friend today, we had to talk about differing values and morals as business partners and I’m not gonna lie, a lot of what was mentioned in that last group is so prominent in this time where new agism, ‘self-glorifying’ perspectives, and non-biblical cultural and political norms have really seeped even into the beliefs of many Christians. Jesus is the Lord of my life and as He is holy and that means we cannot compromise and “bend” the truth and completely disregard the righteousness and holiness of God to conform to the view of the world and today’s cultural norms. I didn’t have all the answers but this is a start. Thank you!
To all Morman's what is God the fathers wife's name ? You believe hes married riiiiiiiight ?
Thank you for this. I’m learning so much from this channel, unfortunately I realized I knew very little about being a true Christian. I don’t even know what kind of church to go to.And I really don’t know any true Christians. Yes I know people who go to church but no one that is a real Christian. I really need to seek the truth and seek like minded people. I’m ashamed to say I really believed in the Law of attraction until very recently. So again thank you for this.
Thank you for your transparency. I would suggest you look for a Bible church where the pastor teaches solidly like they are doing here, and pray the Lord guides your steps into alignment with other believers who are seeking to live a godly life.
Be faithful in prayer, pray often and use an abundance of praise and the giving of thanks to God.
Read your bible daily and trust that the Spirit of God will give understanding.
These are the foundation of your walk and fellowship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Trust God to lead you into fellowship with other believers, even though that time of fellowship may be temporary. Follow the Christ of God and the leading of the Spirit of God. Grace and Peace!
Hi Devan - Mike Winger is a Calvary Chapel pastor. One of my favorites is Steve Whinery at CC Tri-Cities, WA, Ken Ortiz in Spokane WA, Tom Hughes and James Kaddis are both in CA. Tom’s church is “412” church. Of course there’s Don Stewart just to name a few online ones. But you can look for a Calvary Chapel in your area. Hope this helps. Blessings.
True Christians will acknowledge that Jeesus drowns babies
@@sysprogmanadhoc2785 l heard that JESUS is HEAVEN.
Watching all the way from PNG. Excellent teaching from both of you. I really enjoyed it. 🙏🙏🙏👍♥️
Brother Mike is hitting it on the head when describing pop christianity. Blessings to you both!
Thanks Allen and Mike for your discussion and comparisons. Most appreciated. God bless you in your work.
they also are not real christians. real christians are CALLED in the Church of God. NOT just anywhere you like.
@@minterbell
12 - 18 - 21
So you are the JUDGE to say
Allen Parr is NOT a Christian because he's not part of your religion DENOMINATION church ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY!
Allen I love your content. Very instructional and enlightening.
Give us more.
Great video! I love what Allen said as he wrapped it up. People need to hear biblical truth. I grew up in the church. I kept my faith through college. A few years ago, my family switched to a church that goes verse by verse through the Bible. I realized how hungry I was for God’s word. I discovered things in the Bible that I had never heard in 30 years of going to church. Thank you for your time and effort into putting out this content!
I love both of you. Thank you for following your call from God to do these videos. I cannot express my gratitude enough for all of time and effort you put in to share the truth of Jesus Christ! It's so hard to find the "real deal" these days and you're it. I've learned SO MUCH from both of you.
Agree!! Agree!! Agree!!
ALSO, Satan made sure that Jesus and his followers were seen as a cult in their day, and this fact is written in Gods word and in records outside of the Bible.
The same today or, when Jehovah's Witnesses first started and it's been going since: Satan is making sure many people, including false religion, see them as a cult.
But guess what: it makes them very happy knowing Gods name is being made known and it is due to them that many come to know Jehovah.
Gods word goes fulfilled every day and false religions don't even know it or, they ignore it. Jehovah is great.
@@markuse3472
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The Letter "" J "" was NOT USED prior to the 13th century it was ADDED to the English language because MOST people don't speak Hebrew
I have no problem with Jehovah or Jesus Christ , but to say EMPHATICALLY that Jehovah is the name of God is ridiculous and not found in ANY of the Dead Sea Scrolls or in ANY GREEK manuscript
You DENY that Jesus = YESHUA ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD
You DENY that Jesus = YESHUA PHYSICALLY RESURRECTED on a SUNDAY being under Jewish CALENDAR
You LOVE SHUNING people the minute they question the Watchtower/ Awake
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Blessings to all watching this video with Gods grace love joy compassion Amen
This was really good. Thank you both. I liked this colaboration. May God continue to use both of you to reach many!!
This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time. Thanks guys.
Amazing enlightenment these two pastors my favourite … I have learnt so much from both of you listening to you both almost everyday … may the almighty God strengthen you both in your ministry .. God Bless you both ❤️
Two of my favorite TH-camrs. Great info and God bless you both for your amazing ministries. 🙏🏼🤍
Thank you for these lengthy videos! They get me through my run, while keeping me thinking about God!
Thank you Allen and Mike. Great job speaking the truth in love. Praying you both stay close to God and he blesses your ministries.
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Yes, thank you. I research, I listen to several speakers, to worship songs and always wondered if I was on the right track. I truly believe I am even though others around me think my thoughts are not sure of words…odd, old fashioned and too curious.
they also are not real christians. real christians are CALLED in the Church of God. NOT just anywhere you like.
@@minterbell
11 - 25 - 21
Your church is FAKE
NOT ONCE have you mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
Mr..Biblically illustrate
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
DEATH
BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of
Jesus Christ on a beautiful REDEMPTIVE SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 you said that my church is fake? 😆😆😆
excuse me, i do not own any church. the church that i belong to is the church of God in the bible that Jesus as the head and the apostles were also called in the same church i am in too. saying it is fake is absolute ignorance of the bible. 😄😆😄
and why did you mention about spreading the good news? are we going now to that topic? you seem to be not in order. 😄
Speaking as a former Catholic, the best way to affirm “ solo escritura “ by simply and patiently opening the Bible showing them the answers to life’s questions. Jesus gave us the best example in the sermon on the mount. Matthew 5-7