I find it crazy how people call Keanu's performance emotionless. That's kind of the point. He was playing a character who wasn't suppose to, initially, have connections to humans. No ties, nothing to give him a bias when he sets GORT loose, but, like the other guy, at McDonald's, he develops emotions and connections.
Exactly. How else does an actor play a being that had no previous experience of interacting with humans? I thought this movie was excellent and this particular scene was its core message. In some ways it reminds of the lunch scene in Jurassic Park (1993).
At the precipice... people simply become hysterical and destroy everything anyway. The words may sound sweet, but it's logically unsound, all make-believe.
I think the only reason we haven't gone extinct time and again throughout our species history is because at each crisis point, we have changed, we adapted and overcame the crisis.
Absolutely ! Oh to have John Cleese just go totally cerebral for about 10 minutes or Longer. Get into the intergalactic society drakes equation all of it. 😆
The issue with me is that one species issue is their sun was literally dying forcing them to evolve (I presume it was no fault of theirs) and yet they compare that outcome to the one of humans destroying the natural earth.
fl0ppy What possible change could they have made that would have helped with a collapsing/exploding sun? Maybe arks of a sort to escape their solar system? I doubt they could fix it so it must have been some escape plan to leave en masse.
THEY treat earth as they want and enslave us to believe we are fondamentally bad and thus, we act upon our own believing (of being bad at the end) and treat the others like we treat animals, and the environment. At the end, we are fondementally good. And different culture experience can prove it. We must take back control to prevent the destruction of our world. And only then, you will have proof of how humanity can be the best living being of the universe. Only then, you will know how easy humans can really evolves in being intelligent, caretakers of their surrounding.
Why can't we have more sci fi like this? Two intelligent characters discussing things and being interesting on an intellectual level, not just (often anyway) mindless action and big budget 'ooo wow' moments..
AGREED. Sci-fi, and kids movies for that matter, have lost their way. Grand effects mean little now that it's done so easily. Show me POWERFUL moments of humanism like this and you have a follower. :)
_"When faced with a radical crisis, when the old way of being in the world, of interacting with each other and with the realm of nature doesn't work anymore, when survival is threatened by seemingly insurmountable problems, an individual life-form -- or a species -- will either die or become extinct or rise above the limitations of its condition through an evolutionary leap."_ ~ *Eckhart Tolle,* A New Earth
I believe comedians are actually the best qualified actors ever. They can get serious or drama roles than the contrary (serious actors getting comedy roles) because making people to laugh and entertain from funny situations is REALLY HARD! Other great comedians in GREAT drama roles are Jim Carey in The Truman Show and more recently Steve Carell in The Patient miniseries.
I find that comedians came make excellent actors, especially villains, due to the nature of comedy being born from tragedy. To be able to make people laugh at something, even the incredibly dark things, gives them a greater understanding of the more negative aspects of human nature.
Surely he is a international treasure….. wit, sarcasm, insight, humor, satire in the boatloads, and humility. Truly, if you wanted to be an interesting person you would wish to be like him. Plus he’s pretty funny.
@MATT S so, let the Socialists continue their agenda, and soon you will only have an Elite group, and a slave group. Why not? Seems to be the oh-so-perfect panacea for saving the planet. Kill off anyone with half a brain, enslave a few stupid ones for labor, the Rich control everything, what could go wrong?
“Heard about the guy who fell off a skyscraper? On his way down past each floor, he kept saying to reassure himself: So far so good... so far so good... so far so good. How you fall doesn't matter. It's how you land!” It's from a film La Haine. When we finally do land it might be already too late to evolve...
What if a certain group of people would press to the point where we feel like it's "this or nothing" and feel like we "have to" accept their prefabricated solution to the problem they caused so we would accept their new narrative for mankind (the hegelian dialectic)?
Bicycles are a conspiracy theory. The children they are given to die as a skinless bloody pulp of abrasions and are telemechanically replaced by extraterrestrial dopplegangers with superhuman reflexes.
This reminds me of something in a book I read. We have to meet our material, cultural, and spiritual needs. Right now our material needs are advancing much faster than our cultural and spiritual needs. Basically we are not ready for any future developments, food, energy, medicine, technology, etc until we further develop our culture and spirituality. It's like balancing a triangle on a pin. Of one sine grows to large too fast, it all comes falling down
That’s true. You have the technological, sociological, and spiritual. Most importantly is the personal. You have to want _positive growth_ within yourself first.
Two very intelligent men reasoning with each other. Quite interesting. Reminds of the matrix reloaded including the architect besides neo. This right for keanu. His voice always sounded so calm which is cool. But here he shows no emotion. There is such a thing as redemption in life.
unfortunately, the book of revelation tells us otherwise. humanity is not, and never will be, the solution to its own problems. thankfully, there is another Solution... and the choice is an individual one. i wish you the best.
@@hippiehillape i don't think it will be our side that will lead us over the precipice... and i don't "thump". i read, study, and choose to believe... all with Help. and i thoughtfully share whenever i am given the opportunity. name-calling does not become you...
When the biologist Lewis Thomas was asked what message he thought mankind should take to other civilization in space, he replied, "I would send the complete work of Johann Sebastian Bach... But that would be boasting". He was right. Indeed, Bach's music were among the Sound of Earth sent on the Golden Record on the Voyager.
The original movie is perfect as is, but this is one of the better scenes in the remake, for sure. Well done, and props to Connelly, Reeves, and Cleese for taking their roles seriously.
I beg to differ with someone as August as Da Vinci...but there are many things I love ...the late period music of Coltrane....the cubist paintings of Picasso.......etc.. I dont understand them ...but I love them....I dont know why !!!
I could imagine an otherworldly entity coming to earth and having a conversation with a true human intellectual; not an intelligent man, but rather a great thinker. Nothing political. Just a thinker. Someone like the late Carl Sagan. It would be so neat to think that a singular intellectual human mind could interact with and change an otherworldly entities motives.
Earth's representative should be Stephen Fry. He's very intelligent, knowledgeable, well-spoken, and if all else fails he can make the aliens laugh until they forget about destroying us.
This argument is so true and definitely applies perfectly to humans. As a New Yorker, I saw a change in the citizens after 9/11. Aside the cops being more organized and even more disciplined, the people became more humane. There was a time prior that a New Yorker would look as you funny for saying good morning or hello, seldom someone would say thanks. In fact, little things like courtesy were absent in most New Yorkers, but after that horrible event, one would say "hello, excuse me", and the such and people reciprocated. I was raised differently in NY, in my household we were engrained with these simple humane interactions and courtesy, so I always felt weird how people would not react normally to these things. But then after I left NY and visited a year after and so on, people were so... Human, I even spoke to a mailman about a street I forgot in Downtown Manhattan, and he cordially gave me directions and we joked about me feeling like a tourist in my own city. I haven't been in NY since 2010 and I wonder... But again, sadly, Humans only improve on the brink of death and destruction. It's so contradictory... Humans overall are a paradoxical species.
Like Fry in V for Vendetta... Or Laurie as House... Or Connelly in one of his film roles... And of course Williams. Sometimes it takes a comic genius, to play the straight and serious parts better than ANY thespian.
"Only at the precipice do we evolve." If only that were true. Unfortunately there are so many who, even while reaching the edge of destruction, will be willfully ignorant of the situation. There are many people today who are well aware of the change needed but are powerless to create that change in the face of mass delusion/ignorance.
“Only when we’ve absolutely pushed it as far as we can, put off changing for as long as possible, will we stall for time by begrudgingly pretending to change: as soon as you give us the chance, or turn your back, we will go back to business as normal”. We can never change… it’s not in our nature. We will kill everything off.
The saddest thing about this is we do know and understand full well of this notion but we are still running to the cliff with fully understanding that we will die if we do not change direction but we will only change it at the last second even though it will still take us years to get there.
Each person on Earth, when pushed hard, eventually changes from who they were to who they can become. I know it sounds like i repeated what the man here said, but its worth repeating. We dont chamge until change is all we have left. Think about that last statement
Alien- Our sun was dieing. We had to evolve. We were at the brink. Human- So are we right now. Our situation is similar. Alien- No it is not. Ours was not created by our hand. Yours is. Your brink was self inflicting.
nope. thats social engineering telling you "we" are the problem, thought up by the club of rome. the problem is the ppl at the tippy top, who are "above the law", own and control so many aspects of the world for starters. the few are the problem, not the masses.
@Leo Peridot They're not concerned about what humans will do to other humans, but rather, what they'll do to the planet. They present that habitable worlds like Earth are very rare and precious, and humanity will never change in time to save itself, but is already in the process of destroying the planet. We've passed their "line" for chances to evolve, so they take things they consider of importance and will then have GORT wipe away the rest of mankind. Like the alien at McDonald's, though, Klaatu develops an emotional attachment to humans and begins to see the potential in them that his superiors at first don't.
Kaptin SwindleToof Gobsmack Xenos and the False Idols are mere thorns waiting to be plucked. Soon your little Waaghh shall be squashed. The Lord Commander has returned as is the Emperors Will. Your days as a Greenskin are numbered.
I've watched many great sci fi movies over the years ...but the most profound piece of dialogue is from Klaatu.."you treat the world as you treat each other"......yeah we do ...we gotta change
Didn't see anything in this movie about human worth saving , when a kid that is supposed to be innocence of mankind don't care at all about another life what was there to show human worth saving ?I would like it if at the end they concluded we human don't deserve earth that we are destroying
But unfortunately man kind is doomed we don’t learn from our past and we are on the brink to total annihilation. Hopefully some of us will survive and bring humanity to a different path 🤞
WHO'S WATCHING THIS IN 2021 .. MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER .. PLEASE, WAKE UP. ALL PEOPLE ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL IN DIGNITY AND RIGHTS. WE ARE ENDOWED WITH REASON AND CONSCIENCE AND SHOULD MEET ONE ANOTHER IN A SPIRIT OF BROTHERHOOD. or we will perish, extinct as many species before us ... the choice is ours ...
@What In the context of the movie’s plot the argument makes perfect sense. If humanity was collectively almost wiped out by aliens as a result of our shortcomings, and everyone knew it, there would certainly be a permanent change in collective human thought and behavior.
"The mind is a superb instrument if used rightly. Used wrongly, however, it becomes very destructive. To put it more accurately, it is not so much that you use your mind wrongly - you usually don't use it at all. It uses you. This is the disease. You believe that you are your mind. This is the delusion. The instrument has taken you over." - Eckhart Tolle.
They said when the event 40 days and night was happening Noah was with Pharoah questioning his father; questioning his decisions " close to an answer".
"Only at the precipice do we evolve" if you think of it is really evolution in a nutshell. Nothing changes until it has too (be it simple behavior or biological processes because some food source disappears, etc.) That applies even to human constructs of politics...the Cuban Missile Crisis being a perfect example. Only when both sides looked into the Abyss of what would come next did they decide to make what would have otherwise been hitherto impossible concessions to each other...and there's likely an infinite number of Civilizations throughout the Universe (especially if we include the Multiverse hypothesis) where the same choice was faced and their world was destroyed because two sides *didn't* concede anything when they had the chance, etc. *Life...it's a scary thing...but it beats the shit out of the alternatives :D lol *
Great response for how humans problem solve but it's entirely incorrect for how evolution works. An external stimulus doesn't force nature to evolve (wait before thinking I'm off here). Evolution is an ongoing process of genetic mutations and occurs without stimulus. Well then that "precipice" is maybe survival of the fittest. This is also wrong although the statement does mirror the evolution of predator and prey where both typically evolve to have attributes that get better over time. The precipice and evolving we're thinking of is really Natural Selection. Let's take a swamp with genetic diversity due to mutations. Evolution has occurred though not dominate in any form. Most things are still similar. Then the swamp dries up over time. The creatures who had mutations favorable for this tend to live and reproduce, becoming dominate as the other creatures die out. As the environment changes slowly and mutations occur slowly natural selection through environmental changes tend to support genetic mutations that are favorable for that environment. That doesn't mean other useless genetic attributes go away, they may hitch a ride like our appendix. Having served a function but no real genetic mutation to remove it that worked favorably with the environment.
@TheSquiddlyspooge, and nucflashevent- I think both of you are missing the context of how the term “evolve” is being used. They’re not really emphasizing biological evolution. But the undertones of the their discussion, is moral/spiritual evolution. Our potential as a species, being drastically uplifted through self-realization. Becoming what the Greek philosopher Plato, referred to as _philosopher king._
it's now 2023 - it's only gotten worse - & we're still not chaning. One word: Pride. We think we are the answer. Evolution is the answer. Pride will never allow one to admit - Jesus is the only answer.
it's been 15 years and i still don't understand how there are people that dislike this movie. I grew up watching this movie, i was 10 when this movie came out, and i remember loving it, this movie made me think a lot of things and ideas, and i was just a little kid. And today, that im 22, im still in love with this scene. People that talk shit about the heavy CGI in this movie, are the same that love watching marvel and Fast & furious content. Hipocrisy
Those who dislike it may be those who chose to look away, choosing not to accept and deal with reality. It is their choice to hide in digital gaming, fighting instead those battles secured with unlimited "lifetimes", their avatars their only identity and belief system.
if I had to choose an advocate to put the case for saving mankind ...mr Cleese would be my man..or Rumpole of the Bailey would do very nicely as a first reserve
I found the will to change and evolve many years ago. And I am a better person because of that. I thought that all of you would have already figured that out by now. Respectfully submitted.
I find it crazy how people call Keanu's performance emotionless. That's kind of the point. He was playing a character who wasn't suppose to, initially, have connections to humans. No ties, nothing to give him a bias when he sets GORT loose, but, like the other guy, at McDonald's, he develops emotions and connections.
"Like the other guy at McDonald's" Lol. I know you were talking about the Chinese guy but the way you phrased it was pretty funny.
@@eec589 Exactly, he play it very alien, unlike the very human one of the original., this movie is not bad, it have it moments.
Exactly. How else does an actor play a being that had no previous experience of interacting with humans? I thought this movie was excellent and this particular scene was its core message. In some ways it reminds of the lunch scene in Jurassic Park (1993).
God Keanu
Exactly! He's playing in alien being.
"it's only at the precipice that we change."
This one sentence is the answer to so many problems that we have.
Lol..the precipice is like 2 inches away....no changing now..just enjoy the fall..
q 4407
If you have to make water,it doesn't matter how urgent the need for releasing water.When you must regardless.The same.
At the precipice... people simply become hysterical and destroy everything anyway. The words may sound sweet, but it's logically unsound, all make-believe.
I think the only reason we haven't gone extinct time and again throughout our species history is because at each crisis point, we have changed, we adapted and overcame the crisis.
This scene made the movie for me. I would have loved a longer interaction between them
Absolutely ! Oh to have John Cleese just go totally cerebral for about 10 minutes or Longer. Get into the intergalactic society drakes equation all of it. 😆
Agree... They're speaking facts. We won't change anything until we're at the brink of destruction...🤔
The issue with me is that one species issue is their sun was literally dying forcing them to evolve (I presume it was no fault of theirs) and yet they compare that outcome to the one of humans destroying the natural earth.
fl0ppy What possible change could they have made that would have helped with a collapsing/exploding sun? Maybe arks of a sort to escape their solar system? I doubt they could fix it so it must have been some escape plan to leave en masse.
@@hobanagerik Yeah it's not explained as far as I remember
"You stole my space car, and killed my space dog."
"oh."
seriously made me lol
"Oh"
Imagine if Morgan freeman was also in this film
@@Novasigmia hahaha
Is that a refference?
We treat the world as we treat each other..fact of life
As Dogs
We can change if we choose too☀️
Yup!
THEY treat earth as they want and enslave us to believe we are fondamentally bad and thus, we act upon our own believing (of being bad at the end) and treat the others like we treat animals, and the environment. At the end, we are fondementally good. And different culture experience can prove it. We must take back control to prevent the destruction of our world. And only then, you will have proof of how humanity can be the best living being of the universe. Only then, you will know how easy humans can really evolves in being intelligent, caretakers of their surrounding.
I think we are at the Waterloo of civilization. The world is once again fighting over BS.
This scene is why I’ll never forget this movie.
Why can't we have more sci fi like this? Two intelligent characters discussing things and being interesting on an intellectual level, not just (often anyway) mindless action and big budget 'ooo wow' moments..
you need to watch the movie the man from earth
www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/
It's not sci-fi, but I would recommend the movie Mindwalk.
Because people don't go see it.
@@onealdom i was actually thinking this, and rewatched it yesterday
AGREED. Sci-fi, and kids movies for that matter, have lost their way. Grand effects mean little now that it's done so easily. Show me POWERFUL moments of humanism like this and you have a follower. :)
Seeing John Cleese playing a serious character feels so weird, but he did a great job. :)
Agree! He should be Ambassador of Earth.
Techrat3D seeing you having difficulties watching a serious movie you did a great job
*18 wheeler disintegrates in moments.
"Only took a few seconds, Q"
I had no idea he was in this movie..was he playing an alien or a human or Monty Python?
He is always doing a great job
_"When faced with a radical crisis, when the old way of being in the world, of interacting with each other and with the realm of nature doesn't work anymore, when survival is threatened by seemingly insurmountable problems, an individual life-form -- or a species -- will either die or become extinct or rise above the limitations of its condition through an evolutionary leap."_ ~ *Eckhart Tolle,* A New Earth
Indeed, patience and will to proceed.
95% will get wiped out. The rest will make it to the next level.
John Cleese is a comedy god, there's no disputing that. But watching scenes like this really, REALLY make me wish he'd do dramatic roles more often.
I believe comedians are actually the best qualified actors ever. They can get serious or drama roles than the contrary (serious actors getting comedy roles) because making people to laugh and entertain from funny situations is REALLY HARD!
Other great comedians in GREAT drama roles are Jim Carey in The Truman Show and more recently Steve Carell in The Patient miniseries.
I find that comedians came make excellent actors, especially villains, due to the nature of comedy being born from tragedy. To be able to make people laugh at something, even the incredibly dark things, gives them a greater understanding of the more negative aspects of human nature.
Surely he is a international treasure….. wit, sarcasm, insight, humor, satire in the boatloads, and humility. Truly, if you wanted to be an interesting person you would wish to be like him. Plus he’s pretty funny.
“Only at the precipice do we evolve… this is our moment. Don’t take it from us”
**Proceeds to accelerate human “evolution”.**
This study/lounge/library is goals.
Yes. I want that setup in my house
This line is so great. It was once said that the wars of the future will be over resources.
And it's in mans nature to destroy himself
I'm afraid I can't think of a single war that's not been over resources already but point well made
@@SprikSprak korean war, vietnam war, falklands war
The one thing in common with all wars, the politicians use the citizenry to fight their battles.
@MATT S so, let the Socialists continue their agenda, and soon you will only have an Elite group, and a slave group.
Why not?
Seems to be the oh-so-perfect panacea for saving the planet.
Kill off anyone with half a brain, enslave a few stupid ones for labor, the Rich control everything, what could go wrong?
@@pinkpenzu all about ressources in the very end. you just need to look at the bigger picture
“Heard about the guy who fell off a skyscraper? On his way down past each floor, he kept saying to reassure himself: So far so good... so far so good... so far so good. How you fall doesn't matter. It's how you land!” It's from a film La Haine. When we finally do land it might be already too late to evolve...
that was an excellent movie
"So far so good... so far so good..."
"But at the end there is death."
_"BONUS!"_
“It is an undeniable, and may I say a fundamental quality of man that when faced with extinction every alternative is preferable”-Dr. Lenard Church
What if a certain group of people would press to the point where we feel like it's "this or nothing" and feel like we "have to" accept their prefabricated solution to the problem they caused so we would accept their new narrative for mankind (the hegelian dialectic)?
Yep lets to do then never ending slavery... Would that be prefarable?
“I knew it from the start, humanity was getting rather silly”
'Is'
This is undoubtedly greatest scene in this movie. Great acting and background
Its unreal how this quote gets more real everyday
I could just watch en entire 2 hours movie with just these 2 just talking and I would never be bored
How true, we do dumb things again and again. Never do we learn from mistakes.
Bicycles are a conspiracy theory. The children they are given to die as a skinless bloody pulp of abrasions and are telemechanically replaced by extraterrestrial dopplegangers with superhuman reflexes.
As is usual, it takes a comedian to show the reality of any situation beyond that of the smartest persons. We need our comedians.
This reminds me of something in a book I read. We have to meet our material, cultural, and spiritual needs. Right now our material needs are advancing much faster than our cultural and spiritual needs. Basically we are not ready for any future developments, food, energy, medicine, technology, etc until we further develop our culture and spirituality. It's like balancing a triangle on a pin. Of one sine grows to large too fast, it all comes falling down
That’s true. You have the technological, sociological, and spiritual. Most importantly is the personal. You have to want _positive growth_ within yourself first.
Spiritual growth being I believe, the most important.
Everlasting Father, I need to hear you so that gnostics, are not unknown. I would gladly go home.
Can you tell me the name of the book please?
Can you tell the name of the book
Two very intelligent men reasoning with each other. Quite interesting. Reminds of the matrix reloaded including the architect besides neo. This right for keanu. His voice always sounded so calm which is cool. But here he shows no emotion. There is such a thing as redemption in life.
@@noone4271 what's million illusions?
@Anthony Ramsey a little too harsh.
@Anthony Ramsey I don't really care I'm just saying. Why loser?
@Anthony Ramsey so to you it's boring?
@Anthony Ramsey well what does it even mean? Seems arithmetic.
"It's only on the brink that people find the will to change" - this is so true...I hope one day, that day, the whole humanity will!
Agreed. I tried to change all my life.
🔺🔺🔺
I find myself replaying this scene over and over in my head more and more recently. Boy, I really hope John Cleese is right...
Same here. Something about this scene,conversation between two intelligent(finest human we have to offer and the other worldly) beings.
Same
unfortunately, the book of revelation tells us otherwise. humanity is not, and never will be, the solution to its own problems. thankfully, there is another Solution... and the choice is an individual one. i wish you the best.
@@cloudwatcher724 you bible thumpers are going to lead us over that precipice whatever the cost
@@hippiehillape i don't think it will be our side that will lead us over the precipice... and i don't "thump". i read, study, and choose to believe... all with Help. and i thoughtfully share whenever i am given the opportunity. name-calling does not become you...
This scene is so golden.
This is exactly how smart people should react to an alien "I have so many questions to ask you"
"But only at the brink that people find the will to change." The face Keanu makes was full of emotion at that point.
From 1951 classic to 2008 film. Still a masterpiece.
When the biologist Lewis Thomas was asked what message he thought mankind should take to other civilization in space, he replied, "I would send the complete work of Johann Sebastian Bach... But that would be boasting".
He was right. Indeed, Bach's music were among the Sound of Earth sent on the Golden Record on the Voyager.
This is our moment, don't take it from us.
We're close to an answer!
Who is watching this in 2023 and thinking how much truth is in movies?
A blessing from the Lord
On the brink people just become hysterical. They NEVER make significant change.
The original movie is perfect as is, but this is one of the better scenes in the remake, for sure. Well done, and props to Connelly, Reeves, and Cleese for taking their roles seriously.
“Nothing can be loved or hated unless it is first understood.”― Leonardo da Vinci
Not accurate. Pain can be hated without understanding. Some things just are.
I beg to differ with someone as August as Da Vinci...but there are many things I love ...the late period music of Coltrane....the cubist paintings of Picasso.......etc..
I dont understand them ...but I love them....I dont know why !!!
At a minimum.
@@tontoranger3777 Is it the pain you hate, or what is causing the pain?
@@tontoranger3777 wrong.
I could imagine an otherworldly entity coming to earth and having a conversation with a true human intellectual; not an intelligent man, but rather a great thinker. Nothing political. Just a thinker. Someone like the late Carl Sagan. It would be so neat to think that a singular intellectual human mind could interact with and change an otherworldly entities motives.
Earth's representative should be Stephen Fry. He's very intelligent, knowledgeable, well-spoken, and if all else fails he can make the aliens laugh until they forget about destroying us.
This argument is so true and definitely applies perfectly to humans.
As a New Yorker, I saw a change in the citizens after 9/11. Aside the cops being more organized and even more disciplined, the people became more humane. There was a time prior that a New Yorker would look as you funny for saying good morning or hello, seldom someone would say thanks. In fact, little things like courtesy were absent in most New Yorkers, but after that horrible event, one would say "hello, excuse me", and the such and people reciprocated.
I was raised differently in NY, in my household we were engrained with these simple humane interactions and courtesy, so I always felt weird how people would not react normally to these things. But then after I left NY and visited a year after and so on, people were so... Human, I even spoke to a mailman about a street I forgot in Downtown Manhattan, and he cordially gave me directions and we joked about me feeling like a tourist in my own city.
I haven't been in NY since 2010 and I wonder... But again, sadly, Humans only improve on the brink of death and destruction. It's so contradictory... Humans overall are a paradoxical species.
So interesting that we speak to ourselves through great art, calling on our minds, reminding our minds, to correct, to accept our Atonement.
Watched this in the dorm awhile back…people always coming through saying “free your mind Neo”.
Good times
I love seeing John Cleese in a serious role where he gets to show his capacity for gravitas.
I'm sure he also loved the vacation of doing a serious role, too.
Like Fry in V for Vendetta... Or Laurie as House... Or Connelly in one of his film roles... And of course Williams. Sometimes it takes a comic genius, to play the straight and serious parts better than ANY thespian.
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"Only at the precipice do we evolve."
If only that were true. Unfortunately there are so many who, even while reaching the edge of destruction, will be willfully ignorant of the situation. There are many people today who are well aware of the change needed but are powerless to create that change in the face of mass delusion/ignorance.
In this case, he was not referring to all humans, he was referring to people who want to evolve when they reach the limit.
Like what? UBI? More DEI?
who would have ever thought that the Minister of Silly Walks would turn out to be so wise.
We need this world,
This world dosnt need us.
You got that right!! But still, people fail to realize this unfortunately
“Only when we’ve absolutely pushed it as far as we can, put off changing for as long as possible, will we stall for time by begrudgingly pretending to change: as soon as you give us the chance, or turn your back, we will go back to business as normal”.
We can never change… it’s not in our nature. We will kill everything off.
The saddest thing about this is we do know and understand full well of this notion but we are still running to the cliff with fully understanding that we will die if we do not change direction but we will only change it at the last second even though it will still take us years to get there.
That is deep, really deep. " Don't take it from us."
Thank you, Bach!
Underated coment ☺️
Each person on Earth, when pushed hard, eventually changes from who they were to who they can become. I know it sounds like i repeated what the man here said, but its worth repeating. We dont chamge until change is all we have left. Think about that last statement
Cleese is a master thespian.
He can also rescue you if you are held prisoner by your father in a tower👍
No I'm pretty sure he's British.
Cleese is very underrated as a serious actor, as is Michael Palin. It’s not all Spam, Upper Class Twit of the Year and Holy Grail.
Good at kicking cars, that's about it
He also supports Brexit and is quite Xenophobic.
Alien- Our sun was dieing. We had to evolve. We were at the brink.
Human- So are we right now. Our situation is similar.
Alien- No it is not. Ours was not created by our hand. Yours is. Your brink was self inflicting.
Human- True enough, but, a crisis nonetheless.
Alien: Only proves that if you get out of this crisis, you will only come back stronger, enough to destroy more than yourself.
Human- stronger still to surpass future crises to get to where you are now in future.
You dont know that fire hurts until after you touch it. A brink is brink. How you got there isn't as important as solving it.
Human: Only at the precipice do we evolve. This is our moment, don't take it from us, we're close to an answer.
Alien: ... I don't like philosophy.
We already are at the precipice, we just don't really see it yet; we need to wake up NOW!
He is right on one thing... The problem is "us"...
nope. thats social engineering telling you "we" are the problem, thought up by the club of rome. the problem is the ppl at the tippy top, who are "above the law", own and control so many aspects of the world for starters. the few are the problem, not the masses.
The problem is thinking there's a problem.
As far as nature is concerned, everything's going according to her every whim, as per usual.
But we're not all alike. People can change.
@Harvey Dustin it's never to late to redeem ones self.
master of darkness asd Correct. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Most underrated movie remake ever.
The original will always be better, of course, but the message here is as important as ever.
Very Well Said !
This is what is happening at this moment.
We are almost at the precipice.
1-11-2021. Indeed. All the best to you and yours. Cherish and learn from one another.
"This is our moment. Don't take it from us."
@Leo Peridot They're not concerned about what humans will do to other humans, but rather, what they'll do to the planet. They present that habitable worlds like Earth are very rare and precious, and humanity will never change in time to save itself, but is already in the process of destroying the planet. We've passed their "line" for chances to evolve, so they take things they consider of importance and will then have GORT wipe away the rest of mankind. Like the alien at McDonald's, though, Klaatu develops an emotional attachment to humans and begins to see the potential in them that his superiors at first don't.
Tx 4 putting this up ,it's profound
1:15 agree. It was only after falling from the roof that i said to self: i m not young anymore ;-)
I often think about that phrase and have used it to improve my way of life.
One of the best scene from Hollywood for me 🙂
Thanks for sharing my friend. Just loved it.
NO one can destroy the home world of Bach.
best scene of the movie. I always remember this discussion. They are having some intellectual nice arguments there.
No Xenos shall threaten the existence of humanity, lest they be wished to be grindered to dust. - Emperor of Mankind.
Kaptin SwindleToof Gobsmack Xenos and the False Idols are mere thorns waiting to be plucked. Soon your little Waaghh shall be squashed. The Lord Commander has returned as is the Emperors Will. Your days as a Greenskin are numbered.
The Emperor Protects
For the Emperor!
This was a horribly underrated, underappreciated film....
With the Covid19 pandemic, this scene is more true than ever
@Thoreau either that. Or we have yet to reach our precipice
I've watched many great sci fi movies over the years ...but the most profound piece of dialogue is from Klaatu.."you treat the world as you treat each other"......yeah we do ...we gotta change
"At precipice we evolve "
i must be about to change a lot because its one heck of a precipice out here
At least they have music, so there's some common ground.
Alien: Your problem is not technology, the problem is you. You lack the will to change
Nailed it
"We're close to an answer."
Hey, look now. Not so close. Are we?
Bruh it's only been a decade, calm down
We're here right now.
Didn't see anything in this movie about human worth saving , when a kid that is supposed to be innocence of mankind don't care at all about another life what was there to show human worth saving ?I would like it if at the end they concluded we human don't deserve earth that we are destroying
“It’s going to hurt”
And you can quote me on that.
I love (really) Glenn Gould's interpretations of Bach, Goldberg Variations but have they listen to Buena Vista Social Club ?
chan chan...
@@luisahumada6081 ;)
Who’d have thought that John Cleese was such an excellent dramatic actor?❤
The Day The Earth Stood Still : "It's only on the brink that people find the will to change..."
2020: no you wont
I just love biographical movies! 👌😝
But unfortunately man kind is doomed we don’t learn from our past and we are on the brink to total annihilation. Hopefully some of us will survive and bring humanity to a different path 🤞
What do you care your Deadpool you can't die I bet you will crash at Thanos place
WHO'S WATCHING THIS IN 2021 .. MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER ..
PLEASE, WAKE UP.
ALL PEOPLE ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL IN DIGNITY AND RIGHTS.
WE ARE ENDOWED WITH REASON AND CONSCIENCE AND SHOULD MEET ONE ANOTHER IN A SPIRIT OF BROTHERHOOD.
or we will perish, extinct as many species before us ... the choice is ours ...
90’s X-Men theme starts at the end of the video.
Sad sad but true...my body is human..raw...
"... Welp, this old human just destroyed my whole career."
lol bet he got fired when he left earth
@What Cool story bro.
@What Thanks.
@What In the context of the movie’s plot the argument makes perfect sense. If humanity was collectively almost wiped out by aliens as a result of our shortcomings, and everyone knew it, there would certainly be a permanent change in collective human thought and behavior.
@@SergeantKillGore Finally, a good comment. Well done, sir 👍
But do we recognize the need to change and do something to stop it before the horse has left the barn.
sadly even on the precipice I'm not sure we'll evolve...we still have people who think the earth is flat for christs sake
"The mind is a superb instrument if used rightly. Used wrongly, however, it becomes very destructive. To put it more accurately, it is not so much that you use your mind wrongly - you usually don't use it at all. It uses you. This is the disease. You believe that you are your mind. This is the delusion. The instrument has taken you over." - Eckhart Tolle.
They said when the event 40 days and night was happening Noah was with Pharoah questioning his father; questioning his decisions " close to an answer".
"Only at the precipice do we evolve" if you think of it is really evolution in a nutshell. Nothing changes until it has too (be it simple behavior or biological processes because some food source disappears, etc.) That applies even to human constructs of politics...the Cuban Missile Crisis being a perfect example. Only when both sides looked into the Abyss of what would come next did they decide to make what would have otherwise been hitherto impossible concessions to each other...and there's likely an infinite number of Civilizations throughout the Universe (especially if we include the Multiverse hypothesis) where the same choice was faced and their world was destroyed because two sides *didn't* concede anything when they had the chance, etc.
*Life...it's a scary thing...but it beats the shit out of the alternatives :D lol *
Great response for how humans problem solve but it's entirely incorrect for how evolution works. An external stimulus doesn't force nature to evolve (wait before thinking I'm off here). Evolution is an ongoing process of genetic mutations and occurs without stimulus. Well then that "precipice" is maybe survival of the fittest. This is also wrong although the statement does mirror the evolution of predator and prey where both typically evolve to have attributes that get better over time. The precipice and evolving we're thinking of is really Natural Selection. Let's take a swamp with genetic diversity due to mutations. Evolution has occurred though not dominate in any form. Most things are still similar. Then the swamp dries up over time. The creatures who had mutations favorable for this tend to live and reproduce, becoming dominate as the other creatures die out. As the environment changes slowly and mutations occur slowly natural selection through environmental changes tend to support genetic mutations that are favorable for that environment. That doesn't mean other useless genetic attributes go away, they may hitch a ride like our appendix. Having served a function but no real genetic mutation to remove it that worked favorably with the environment.
Very interesting theories. Where did you both study? Also I heard it said evolve or die.
“Only when both sides looked into the Abyss.” Do you even know what you’re talking about?
@TheSquiddlyspooge, and nucflashevent- I think both of you are missing the context of how the term “evolve” is being used. They’re not really emphasizing biological evolution. But the undertones of the their discussion, is moral/spiritual evolution. Our potential as a species, being drastically uplifted through self-realization. Becoming what the Greek philosopher Plato, referred to as _philosopher king._
We’re on the brink in 2020 and we still not changing
it's now 2023 - it's only gotten worse - & we're still not chaning. One word: Pride. We think we are the answer. Evolution is the answer. Pride will never allow one to admit - Jesus is the only answer.
Q sent me!
it's been 15 years and i still don't understand how there are people that dislike this movie. I grew up watching this movie, i was 10 when this movie came out, and i remember loving it, this movie made me think a lot of things and ideas, and i was just a little kid. And today, that im 22, im still in love with this scene. People that talk shit about the heavy CGI in this movie, are the same that love watching marvel and Fast & furious content. Hipocrisy
Those who dislike it may be those who chose to look away, choosing not to accept and deal with reality.
It is their choice to hide in digital gaming, fighting instead those battles secured with unlimited "lifetimes", their avatars their only identity and belief system.
2020 proves... that humans cannot and will not change, even to save themselves.
Some won't. But, some will.
Yes, but we are still here Jordy. And are continuing onward.
"It's Bach" Of course, he made music from heaven.
if I had to choose an advocate to put the case for saving mankind ...mr Cleese would be my man..or Rumpole of the Bailey would do very nicely as a first reserve
David Scott - Rumpole would be my first choice, the redeemer of the small time criminal... Fits humanities description in this situation.
I found the will to change and evolve many years ago. And I am a better person because of that. I thought that all of you would have already figured that out by now. Respectfully submitted.
Kinda have the feels now due to the Coronavirus.
Power comes in response to a need....not a desire...this is verry identical line😎