Nice history. I stayed in Sweden for a residency for awhile and I told a professor that the TV there appeared to flicker and gave me a headache. How can you watch it, I said. He said no you are wrong, it is the same as a US TV. I said no, ours is much faster rate refresh than you. A few years later after coming to the States he told me I was right and that our TV's looked amazing. That was back in the 80's.
But you did get less horizontal lines in the US, so the resolution wasn’t as good. Switching between ntsc and pal on a gaming monitor was fun, because of the timing difference
Ah, that is actually correct even if I didn't know that it was also in Dead Zone (1987)! The first game it was included in was Bomb Jack (1986, where this arrangement comes from).
Fantastic video, thank you. I was really hoping for this kind of video, an overview of SY CHIP in the context of the original SID, and we are so lucky to get that video on release date! SY CHIP has renewed my interest in my Rytm. It's so fun and emphasizes how weird and flexible the Rytm can be.
maaaaaaaaaaaaaan I was close to buying a therapsid but this is a good thing to have for now until I'm sure I need more SID sounds - Great video! Thanks!
I unfortunately was never a part of the SID scene so I can’t name the tunes, but that second one is SO beautiful, and that it was all done on 3 voices makes it even more gorgeous!!!
I'm predisposed to dislike "chiptune" anything... I updated my RYTM MKII today to OS 1.70 and played with the new machines. SY CHIP is, well, fantastically fun! Your demo at the outro is lovely. 💙 Cheers!
damn! i think this is one of The best AR videso on youtube! like hell! its The Most interesting for sure! thank you! you should talk with elektron to make this a soundpack project for the rytm. i would totally study it, reverse engineer it and everything! thank you so much
Absourdly GOOD video!!!! Mind you the update has only been one day out, and this gen’t already wrote 2 songs exclusively using the rytm. AMAZING and seriously gifted. If you ever make more videos about this or a tutorial series.I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. P.S. If Iwhere you. I’ll be reaching to Elektron to ask them to let you make a Rytm pack to have in their site ❤❤❤
SY CHIP is an awesome machine, gz!! And your presentation was like following a „making-of“. Makes me start thinking if I want to add an AR to my beloved ST just for these sounds… 😊🤩
Amazing video. Very well explained. But more importantly, I loved all the C64 references. In short: The RYTM 1.70 brought me here, the C64 references made me sub! Cheers!
@@tubesockorIt would be great if you had time to make a tutorial about the compressor at Analog Rytm. Or discover the workflow of how you play the whole song according to AR patterns. Your Tutorials are simply a different dimension when compared to the others. Thank You.
Thank you, happy you liked it. The song is a cover of an existing C64 track by Mutetus, and called ”Only 299.99”. Easiest way to find it is go go to the site deepsid.chordian.net and search for the song. Then you will have the original, which is also much longer :) I might complete my version some time too, who knows!
Wondering if you could help me decide, I’m interested in getting the uh, most in depth elektron box for synthesizing drums from scratch. Would that be the rytm? Digitone as it has more fm capabilities? Or syntakt for the amount of machines? Don’t care about sequencing so much. I’m also well versed in design.
Depends, as always :) Rytm is most in-depth I would say, since you have analog drum synthesis topped with samples and some slight digital additions as well. Digitone is most in-depth for FM synthesis. And in the middle you have Syntakt, with both analog drum synthesis as well as some digital drum synthesis. So, if you need samples - I would go with Rytm, otherwise Syntakt.
@@tubesockor thanks for the response! I think syntakt is the choice as I’m not concerned with sampling. definitely learned a lot of history watching this! One more question, do you know of any relatively affordable limiting/soft clipping solutions for hardware? Everything I’ve seen is either a colored distortion pedal with an eq curve or a multi thousand dollar limiter. Wish the heat +fx could re arrange the analog circuits so I can use the clean boost to clip signals. Cheers
Depends on the sound you want I guess. I would go with a Heat since I use it from time to time but I assume there are cheaper units with much more limited (pun not intended) functions that would fit as well.
if you want the most wide open toolkit of analog sound design that elektron has to offer, get Analog Four. I dont use it as a straight up drum machine but i use it to make drum sounds that i then sample on my sp-404. Analog Four can make drum sounds and so much more. Rytm is a more focused machine which has been given some nifty additions over the years so its more than just a drum machine at this point. i have rytm mki and Four mkii and they're my favorite gear
Thanks! Well, I guess because it contains a lot of both analog & digital hardware plus pads and multiple outputs etc :) But you can get a used Mk1:s for quite a lot less. This machine (and most things from 1.70) is applicable on that one too.
Buy a 2nd hand mk1 & save yourself up to 2/3rds of the $ on a new mk2 price. Don't worry about the mk2's more integrated sampler engine side of the mk2, compared to the mk1... Cause if u find a mk1 cheap, u simply will have likely saved the $ to also buy a new or 2nd hand Digitakt... The mk1 & mk2 are exactly the same analogue drum synthesis machines & sound engine as each other... The mk2 has slightly better improvements for the choices of i/o pre amps to fit on them by the time they did mk2 & Digi boxes. So the mk2 Rytm is probably I'm guessing about 3-4db louder and has that improvement in the s/n & dynamic range. But there is nothing worth fussing about for the quality of the specs of any cheap poor i/o pre's used at the mk1 era of Elektron development anyway. U will get more out of owning a mk1 & pairing it with a Digitakt... The Rytm mk1 is the only mk1 I own, & I have every Elektron besides a Machinedrum. But I don't care or lust for chasing after a mk2 at all... If u look into this info yourself about mk1 & mk2's. Hopefully you'll find ya Rytm & have a better understanding of what u can pay... & not wait longer than u may do saving up much more for the new mk2... If u really can make do on the actual small differences of having a bit less of the mk2's improvements of the sampling side of the new ones.
Thanks! The official Analog Rytm manual describes the main features of each parameter in SY CHIP - but if you need it more detailed, it would be this video :)
Ok, but actual C64 SID tunes sound better, fuller. This one gets close, but it's somehow a tiny bit too clean and thin. I can't say what the problem is or how it could be improved. EQ, distortion? The noise waveform? Or maybe it's the lack of detailed tracker programming where parameters are carefully adjusted frame-by-frame in "wave tables" (parameter sequences).
Of course - for several reasons :) Nothing beats a real SID (sometimes not even another SID, since they might sound very different from each other), but also because SY CHIP is not trying to be a SID emulation, it is just very inspired by those techniques used when making arps & chip tune sounds from that era. Then it is possible to get it to sound quite similar, but it is not intended to be a replica. The frame-by-frame wave tables is what exists in some of the selectable waveforms. I try to explain them all in the video including how to practically use them in some drum sounds.
@@tubesockor To me the set of features looks like it tries to be a SID emulation, and it certainly isn't an AY. :) Maybe they tried but couldn't get it good enough so they called it "AY". I've been listening to chiptunes and making my own ones for decades, and nowadays I can't stand almost any AY stuff, it is just too harsh. But I never get tired of SID tunes.
From the Elektron official account's posts: We know an extra LFO was a much-hoped-for feature addition (for all of us!), but unfortunately it is not currently feasible due to hardware limitations. It wasn’t for want of trying, and we’ll keep searching for a solution, but we trust that this OS will bring a ton of fun to all Analog Rytm owners - both MKI and MKII. Enjoy! /The Elektron Team
😲 Wow...its to overcome a limitation okay and creat this famous style timeless sound... but is it a real chord or is it a arpeggio event , it sounds like soundevent at a time real close together...a fast arpeggiator .. or is a special buffer needed in the arpeggiator. 🤔 or is it a simple simple arpeggio event ..one note fallow short one after another, thats it.. ... or can be implemented even in a monosynth via a chip on how to react on midi event thats creat a mono analog sound in that Electron case that mono sound is store in a buffer (ram) and digital modulated this and doubled, trippled it, pitched up ..sry I dont get it...
Nice history. I stayed in Sweden for a residency for awhile and I told a professor that the TV there appeared to flicker and gave me a headache. How can you watch it, I said. He said no you are wrong, it is the same as a US TV. I said no, ours is much faster rate refresh than you. A few years later after coming to the States he told me I was right and that our TV's looked amazing. That was back in the 80's.
Wow, interesting! I know I have been thinking about that, wondering if people noticed it.
But you did get less horizontal lines in the US, so the resolution wasn’t as good.
Switching between ntsc and pal on a gaming monitor was fun, because of the timing difference
Plus NTSC is a poor system for colour encoding. At college on an electronics course the tutor called it Never Twice the Same Colour.
Thank you for importing all this valuable knowledge in such a clear, compact style. You are a champion of organisation, conceptually and skilfully.
Thanks a lot, makes be very happy to hear!
The song is Magnetic Flields Part 2 from Jean-Michel Jarre, covered on the C64 in the game Dead Zone. A fried had this back in the days on datasette.
Ah, that is actually correct even if I didn't know that it was also in Dead Zone (1987)! The first game it was included in was Bomb Jack (1986, where this arrangement comes from).
Good to see some older dudes on the channel who had c64 and atari back in the days ;]
I haven't used my RYTM mk 1 in at least two years. Guess I need to change that. Thanks for this video.
Happy you liked it! Yeah, time to use the Rytm again then - it is almost a new instrument in some ways.
That was great, thanks!
Thank you!
I probably could have listened to another few hours of you jamming on the pads in the first demo. Thanks for the vid
Hehe, we'll see what happens in a future video :)
Wow. Amazing tune and know-how. Spectacular!!
Thanks! Happy you liked it!
Great detailed breakdown of this new machine. Hope this video blows up for you.
Thank you! Always fun when people appreciate the stuff!
Fantastic video, thank you. I was really hoping for this kind of video, an overview of SY CHIP in the context of the original SID, and we are so lucky to get that video on release date! SY CHIP has renewed my interest in my Rytm. It's so fun and emphasizes how weird and flexible the Rytm can be.
Thanks a lot! Yes, it can appear as a complex machine at first so could be good to explain a bit on how to make sounds with it.
Fantastic demo of the new features on the Rytm!!!
Game: Bomb Jack... and it is a cover of Jean-Michel Jarre - Magnetic Fields, PT. 2
Thanks a lot! And you are absolutely right, congrats! :)
YAY!!! @@tubesockor
The AR is now the Ultra-Mega-SID!!!! Your tunes are of course amazing, I hope to join you soon. Rytm arrives Saturday.
Thanks a lot! Yeah, it turned out to be a little SID-cousin :) Congrats to you, have fun!
This is such a well done video, great history lesson too and amazing playing!
Thanks a lot, happy you like it!
maaaaaaaaaaaaaan I was close to buying a therapsid but this is a good thing to have for now until I'm sure I need more SID sounds - Great video! Thanks!
Nothing beats a real SID in being a SID though (well, two does) ofcourse, but this one is a fun way of getting a similar sound! And thanks!
I unfortunately was never a part of the SID scene so I can’t name the tunes, but that second one is SO beautiful, and that it was all done on 3 voices makes it even more gorgeous!!!
Happy to hear! Yes, being forced to only three channels shaped a lot of creativity!
I'm predisposed to dislike "chiptune" anything... I updated my RYTM MKII today to OS 1.70 and played with the new machines. SY CHIP is, well, fantastically fun! Your demo at the outro is lovely. 💙 Cheers!
Thank you! Always nice to be able to convert someone to this side :)
Awesome video.. would love more content about the other new machines too. 😊
The other ones are pretty similar to whats already.. more like variations of existing engines. This ones very cool though
Thanks! Never know what comes in the future, but I recommend Elektron's official videos on them.
Nice update from Elektron. Nice video… a must have for SID lovers…
Thanks! Yes, it is quite useful :)
damn! i think this is one of The best AR videso on youtube! like hell! its The Most interesting for sure! thank you! you should talk with elektron to make this a soundpack project for the rytm. i would totally study it, reverse engineer it and everything! thank you so much
lol now i read in the comments you work for elektron. so i hope we see a soundpack at some point
Thanks for kind words! Yeah, we’ll see if a sound pack happens :)
Absourdly GOOD video!!!! Mind you the update has only been one day out, and this gen’t already wrote 2 songs exclusively using the rytm. AMAZING and seriously gifted. If you ever make more videos about this or a tutorial series.I’ll buy it in a heartbeat.
P.S. If Iwhere you. I’ll be reaching to Elektron to ask them to let you make a Rytm pack to have in their site ❤❤❤
He literally works for elektron lol
Thank you! Yes, I work for Elektron so we'll see about sound packs. Maybe :) I will do more videos for sure!
@@tubesockor ha, didn't know you work for Elektron.. i guess that's why you have a lot of knowledge about this lol Demo tunes sound great!
thanks for the insightful demo! looking forward for more from you!
Thanks! Yup, more will come. At some random point...
This is a useful demonstration. Thanks.
Great that you liked it, thanks!
SY CHIP is an awesome machine, gz!! And your presentation was like following a „making-of“. Makes me start thinking if I want to add an AR to my beloved ST just for these sounds… 😊🤩
Yeah, it is a pretty fun machine! Combining with an ST is not bad - you will have more channels, samples, and performance pads etc...
6:20
this is insane!
Was fun :)
fantastic stuff, thanks for the video!
Happy you liked it, thanks!
Amazing video. Very well explained. But more importantly, I loved all the C64 references. In short: The RYTM 1.70 brought me here, the C64 references made me sub! Cheers!
Oh.. I forgot... game is Bomb Jack of course!!
Thanks a lot! If you like C64 I think you might find more things you like on the channel :) And, yes you are totally right!
Great tutorial. Perhaps best.
Thank you! Yeah, I tried to be as complete as possible :)
@@tubesockorIt would be great if you had time to make a tutorial about the compressor at Analog Rytm. Or discover the workflow of how you play the whole song according to AR patterns. Your Tutorials are simply a different dimension when compared to the others. Thank You.
@@zoran68Happy you like them! I will make more videos for sure, but never know when :) Messages like this makes the chances better though!
Finally I know what this is. Thanks
You’re welcome! :)
Brilliant! Thank you
Happy you liked it!
This was fantastic, thanks !
Thank you!
Awesome!
Thanks!
Brilliant!
Yay, thanks!
Excellent!
Thanks! :)
thank you! these sounds have always been a mystery to me
Thanks! I hope I could give some insight here.
You have talent!!
Thanks :)
Wtf! Your fingerdrum skills are ace! Really nice. Compliments
Thank you! :)
I am sure that with your (excellent and super unexpected) Chiptune demo 1, you made a lot of Rytm avid users feel very embarrassed...😂
Haha, don't know about that - but happy you liked it!
Wow, you have skills man, nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice one!! Good fingerdrumming too 👌
Hehe thanks!
....dope!
I love that Keygen sound 🤣😉✌
Helt otroligt! Måste ta och skaffa en Rytm nu!
Ja, det är en mycket bra maskin, gillar den skarpt!
Can you please release the last track? I want to have this on repeat! Great skills & explanation, thanks!
Thank you, happy you liked it. The song is a cover of an existing C64 track by Mutetus, and called ”Only 299.99”. Easiest way to find it is go go to the site deepsid.chordian.net and search for the song. Then you will have the original, which is also much longer :)
I might complete my version some time too, who knows!
DAMN, now i also need to add the RYTM to my list. (big mistake of Elektron letting you go) 🤘nice!!!
No worries, I’m back working for Elektron. This machine, for instance :)
@@tubesockor Congrats! Good to hear man! 🤘Enjoy
Hopeful Syntakt owners be lurking here.
Yeah, we’ll see ;)
It's here... Soon😊
Syntakt OS 1.3 🎉
jean michel jarre hell yeah lol :) great vid
Yep, classic tune! Thanks
BOMB
great song! haha
Wondering if you could help me decide, I’m interested in getting the uh, most in depth elektron box for synthesizing drums from scratch. Would that be the rytm? Digitone as it has more fm capabilities? Or syntakt for the amount of machines? Don’t care about sequencing so much. I’m also well versed in design.
Depends, as always :) Rytm is most in-depth I would say, since you have analog drum synthesis topped with samples and some slight digital additions as well. Digitone is most in-depth for FM synthesis. And in the middle you have Syntakt, with both analog drum synthesis as well as some digital drum synthesis. So, if you need samples - I would go with Rytm, otherwise Syntakt.
@@tubesockor thanks for the response! I think syntakt is the choice as I’m not concerned with sampling. definitely learned a lot of history watching this!
One more question, do you know of any relatively affordable limiting/soft clipping solutions for hardware? Everything I’ve seen is either a colored distortion pedal with an eq curve or a multi thousand dollar limiter. Wish the heat +fx could re arrange the analog circuits so I can use the clean boost to clip signals.
Cheers
Depends on the sound you want I guess. I would go with a Heat since I use it from time to time but I assume there are cheaper units with much more limited (pun not intended) functions that would fit as well.
@@tubesockor so a second heat then I guess. Please give us a limiter, elektron. Lol
if you want the most wide open toolkit of analog sound design that elektron has to offer, get Analog Four. I dont use it as a straight up drum machine but i use it to make drum sounds that i then sample on my sp-404. Analog Four can make drum sounds and so much more. Rytm is a more focused machine which has been given some nifty additions over the years so its more than just a drum machine at this point. i have rytm mki and Four mkii and they're my favorite gear
These machines are now available for the Syntakt. Which is a bit annoying as I had bought an Rytm to get them (have a Syntakt as well).
Yep, they are - just made a new vid about it actually! But this means you can now make 2SID tunes :)
Awesome video!! If you make Purple Motion - Second Reality (Unreal 2) I died :)
Thanks! Never heard that tune before (until now) - was great!
excellent video! Do you work for Elektron?
Thanks! Yep, I do!
@@tubesockor nice that they hire professional fingerdrummers ;)
Haha :)
Dammit this sounds good... Why's it got to be $1600
Thanks! Well, I guess because it contains a lot of both analog & digital hardware plus pads and multiple outputs etc :) But you can get a used Mk1:s for quite a lot less. This machine (and most things from 1.70) is applicable on that one too.
Buy a 2nd hand mk1 & save yourself up to 2/3rds of the $ on a new mk2 price. Don't worry about the mk2's more integrated sampler engine side of the mk2, compared to the mk1... Cause if u find a mk1 cheap, u simply will have likely saved the $ to also buy a new or 2nd hand Digitakt... The mk1 & mk2 are exactly the same analogue drum synthesis machines & sound engine as each other... The mk2 has slightly better improvements for the choices of i/o pre amps to fit on them by the time they did mk2 & Digi boxes. So the mk2 Rytm is probably I'm guessing about 3-4db louder and has that improvement in the s/n & dynamic range. But there is nothing worth fussing about for the quality of the specs of any cheap poor i/o pre's used at the mk1 era of Elektron development anyway. U will get more out of owning a mk1 & pairing it with a Digitakt... The Rytm mk1 is the only mk1 I own, & I have every Elektron besides a Machinedrum. But I don't care or lust for chasing after a mk2 at all... If u look into this info yourself about mk1 & mk2's. Hopefully you'll find ya Rytm & have a better understanding of what u can pay... & not wait longer than u may do saving up much more for the new mk2... If u really can make do on the actual small differences of having a bit less of the mk2's improvements of the sampling side of the new ones.
Is there a man for this online? The only place where I could this info is here.
Thanks for the awesome vid
Thanks! The official Analog Rytm manual describes the main features of each parameter in SY CHIP - but if you need it more detailed, it would be this video :)
Ok, but actual C64 SID tunes sound better, fuller. This one gets close, but it's somehow a tiny bit too clean and thin. I can't say what the problem is or how it could be improved. EQ, distortion? The noise waveform? Or maybe it's the lack of detailed tracker programming where parameters are carefully adjusted frame-by-frame in "wave tables" (parameter sequences).
Of course - for several reasons :) Nothing beats a real SID (sometimes not even another SID, since they might sound very different from each other), but also because SY CHIP is not trying to be a SID emulation, it is just very inspired by those techniques used when making arps & chip tune sounds from that era. Then it is possible to get it to sound quite similar, but it is not intended to be a replica. The frame-by-frame wave tables is what exists in some of the selectable waveforms. I try to explain them all in the video including how to practically use them in some drum sounds.
@@tubesockor To me the set of features looks like it tries to be a SID emulation, and it certainly isn't an AY. :) Maybe they tried but couldn't get it good enough so they called it "AY". I've been listening to chiptunes and making my own ones for decades, and nowadays I can't stand almost any AY stuff, it is just too harsh. But I never get tired of SID tunes.
Have they added lfo?
They cant :(
From the Elektron official account's posts:
We know an extra LFO was a much-hoped-for feature addition (for all of us!), but unfortunately it is not currently feasible due to hardware limitations. It wasn’t for want of trying, and we’ll keep searching for a solution, but we trust that this OS will bring a ton of fun to all Analog Rytm owners - both MKI and MKII. Enjoy!
/The Elektron Team
@@tubesockor no problem we can always use sample wavforms lfos ;)
Sid Chip Kumpel 😅
😲 Wow...its to overcome a limitation okay and creat this famous style timeless sound...
but is it a real chord or is it a arpeggio event , it sounds like soundevent at a time real close together...a fast arpeggiator ..
or is a special buffer needed in the arpeggiator.
🤔 or is it a simple simple arpeggio event ..one note fallow short one after another, thats it.. ...
or can be implemented even in a monosynth via a chip on how to react on midi event thats creat a mono analog sound in that Electron case that mono sound is store in a buffer (ram) and digital modulated this and doubled, trippled it, pitched up ..sry I dont get it...
Not really sure what to answer - but take a look at the video again, I hope it should clear things out :)
Bubble Bobble... do I win a Elektron now?
Ah sorry, no points for that one :)
lol “that chip” 👀