Moved to Denver in 2012, and my roommate was/still is a huge Batman fan. We decided to go to the midnight showing of the movie (him, his girlfriend, and I). My roommate wanted to go to the aurora theatre, because he always said you would get bed bugs at the downtown theatre, with it just being dirty. His girlfriend picked me up, and we were gonna meet him at the theatre when he got off work at his resturaunt. We got to the theatre, and pulled up early so we could get the drinks and food for when he got there, so we wouldn’t miss the movie. As we were walking up, my roommate texted saying “I just got stuck rolling silverware, and don’t want to miss a second of the movie, so just come to the Denver theatre”. So we went to the Denver theatre, watched the movie, and went home and passed out at like 3am. I was off the next day so I slept in late, and that was that. I woke up the next morning with 30 missed calls from my whole family. I still didn’t know what had happened, until I called them back and they said turn on the tv. Every year since then I’ve gotten the “photo memory from a year ago” Facebook notification which reads “Going with Nate to see Batman whoop some candy ass at midnight” and it always gives me chills. Because he had to roll silverware, we switched theatres last second. Life is wild Edit: I keep seeing questions on what rolling silverware is, and realized the term might be know mainly if you worked as a server. You take a fork and a knife, roll it up in a napkin, and that's it. You do it before shifts and after to keep a nice stock of silverware at your ready.
His mom going door-to-door looking for friends hits really hard. Especially if you're a parent. It sounds like she tried really hard to do good for him.
@The world is mine in 2o21 / Not true. You can have some of the best parents in the world and still end up this way. And when i say best parents i mean the ones who discipline you when u are wrong and praise you for doing good. Sometimes ppl just are into violence or have mental health issues. You never know what someone has going on in their head. Look at most parents lately that are killed by their kids. It's bc they told their kids no they can't have something of go somewhere but these kids feel entitled lately and it's bc the government won't even let us raise or discipline or kids anymore. You got kids that constantly call the police on their parents for taking away their phone and in one case i saw they actually took the dad to jail and the mother got custody. It's crazy. So parents are afraid to be able to do what they think is best. So if anything blame the system. I remember going to juvenile for disrespecting my aunt who raised me or not opening my door, they took it off the hedges.
@The world is mine in 2o21 that's not true at all! Plenty of parents have taught their children morals, disciplined them and so on, only to have that same child become a monster!
That got so bad that people today still think he was dressed as the Joker. He was decked out in so much tactical gear that he was mistaken for SWAT, until they noticed he was heading away.
Yeah I remember that! The news was saying he dressed up like the Joker and he was some sick deranged obsessive Batman fan! Your so right, I DO REMEMBER the media made him seem like a cult die hard Marvel and Batman fan!
Last movie I ever saw in theaters, my best friend was there, he's okay physically but not mentally. We both went to midnight premiers in different states, we talked about how excited we were. He lost his phone in the stampede and I heard about the massacre as soon as I got home and spent all night thinking he was dead. His brother was injured and never able to play college baseball again and now is a dying alcoholic.
The most eerie thing about Jessica Redfield's story is that a month before the Dark Knight shooting, she was at the Toronto mall shooting and she wrote in her blog that she felt a very uneasy, sickening feeling which made her step outside of the food court at the mall. Seconds later the mass shooting happened in the food court. When she made her way outside after the mass shooting, that's when she tweeted about the guy dressed as Batman who was charging tourists to take pictures. A month later, she becomes the victim of another mass shooting at the premiere of a Batman movie over 1,000 miles away. If that is not Final Destination-like, I don't know what is. So tragic.
@@Blobby192 How many mass shootings have occurred on Earth in the history of the Universe. The chances of being in two of them within a month is beyond comprehension. Using the word, coincident doesn't really fit imo.
Exactly and the joker had nothing to do with the film. The media was 4 years to late. If he turned up in a name mask is have understood the connection but What? Died hair oh he's the joker! Where's the make up the clothes lol
@Mr Pussy Juice They had limited information? So they just make up false information without checking it? The media does stuff like that all the time. A shooting in a theater would get views. But a deranged Joker fan dressing up as the Joker and shooting up a theater gets more views.
she said she heard about homicidal ideation alot from students, so i guess it was normalised for her. also her being a therapist i think she'd hear alot of weird stuff anyway
It's not fair to blame the therapist or the psychiatrist. You can tell from the story that the psychiatrist had a hunch that he was dangerous; she even had a colleague who specialized in violent potential talk with Holmes. The problem is that it's not that hard to fool behavioral health professionals if that's your goal. We aren't psychic and although we do our best to diagnose illness appropriately and watch for suicidal and homicidal risks, intelligent psychopaths can fool us too. People also need to understand that every state has different rules for what constitutes the criteria for a temporary Psychiatric hold on a person, and it is rarely as simple as the provider saying "let's hold that person for 3 days." My heart goes out to the doctor a day the therapist who were involved and I suspect blamed themselves unfairly. Nothing but suffering all around.
Can't believe it's been over a decade. It feels like this didn't happen long ago. I remember going to see the dark rises that saturday there was crazy amount of cops in the theater.
Where I was there would be people periodically checking all the emergency exits to make sure that there was nothing suspicious going on. I don't know if they had any weapons other than the heavy duty flashlight they were using to inspect the doors but if someone did try something they probably would've gotten their skull caved in.
@AvengedSeven09 *number, not amount. "Cops" is plural. (E.g., it would be "amount" of police, since "police" is not a countable noun. But indivdual "cops" can be counted.)
The thing I remember with the Aurora shooting was Hans Zimmer (who did the soundtrack to Dark Knight) writing an absolutely breathtaking piece of music in memory of the victims. Still sends shivers down my spine when I hear it today.
@@crazyluigi6664 It's more the sheer difference between him in that presentation and him in the interrogation. He's a lot more with it in the presentation even if he is a little off. In the interrogation you can tell he's so far gone.
I have schizophrenia, was diagnosed when i was 20. I saw and still see those shadowy figures and random hallucinations. I called them shadow ninjas through my whole life. Im 37 now. Ive never felt suicidal or homicidal at all, especially towards innocent people. Some people are just lost. .
Yeah, schizophrenic people are statistically less violent than the general population, and are much more likely to be victimized. Violence is characterized by really high levels of emotion, which you see in Holmes notebook, whereas some of the most difficult and common schizophrenic symptoms are blunted emotions (flat affect) and depression. While the shadowy figures he describes are super common hallucination for those with the illness, he was extremely young to be experiencing them, making it even more unlikely. Makes me sad that people conflate such a difficult and painful illness with violence
it’s so heartbreaking to see the victims fleeing the theater with some dressed up for the movie. they were really excited to enjoy the movie they’ve been so hyped to see and never could’ve expected something so awful to occur. life is so fragile, especially with other monsters around like this guy
@@CamJames V tech and Nashville weren't white boys. Also take into account gang violence. More deadly overall than mass shootings and more racially diverse.
There's nothing you can do at that point. Unless you say you're planning on doing something, they can't lock you up just for saying you feel like doing something. Many people feel like doing things they don't intend on doing, it's perfectly normal... until they do it. But of course you don't know who's going to do what so everything is hindsight.
Right wtf. This speaks to lack of proper training and/or education of these "psychologists". There is still alot of work research and understanding of mental health/human mind.
It’s funny how everyone’s surprised he could be so normal in the power point but it’s not hard when you spend your life depressed to act like you’re not
Also if you struggle with social interaction but exceed in academics, i could see how he would be confident in something he enjoys or knows he is good at like the powerpoint presentation.
It just goes to show no matter how good your childhood is, your mental health can strike, if u need help, please get help, no one will judge u, don’t take it out on others, rest in peace everyone
edit: I made this post to show what i feel. No need to comment or drag me in the dirt just because I said what I thought. Of course this is a horrible crime and a horrible thing that has happened, but that shouldnt be an excuse for me to express my views This man created a fear in me when watching movies to this day. I get the edge seats because I’m fearful for my life and always look to the doors. RIP to the victims
seriously. I didnt think he seemed weird in the talk they showed, I mean he was a nervous but not bizarre. Parents need to not push kids so hard and pay attention to them.
@@gjh9299 it’s literally not possible. Something was wrong in the writing. 4pm to 2pm 7 days a week is literally not possible. No matter which way you look at it. For more than a couple days, no.
No they really didn't. Did you miss the part were she called in extra help and or the dude wrote in journal about lying to her? How much more do you think a therapist needs to do? Guy has 10k in the bank and is saying all the right stuff. It's like you people wish we literally lived in the minority report movie and have the government reading everyone's minds and arresting people for thinking about crimes.
@@randalthor6872 that psychology bitch does need to land in prison . If she heard the words come out of his mouth "I want to kill people" , then I would say that during this time the mental health industry is compromised due to this testament and others reported. This is sad..
@@casanovafrankenstein8538 I don't think he's a psychopath. He probably has some psychopathic traits but he's probably not a full blown psychopath. Having social anxiety as a psychopath is very uncommon
The Media pushed the story that Dark Knights Joker caused this man to kill! But no, he had been begging for help for years. He told many ppl what he felt & what he was going to do. Literally Nobody listened. He told Police officer, his family, school, friends, therapist & he called others. Thats insane that nobody would take him seriously. They failed us and put society in danger
The media sells stories, they sell fear, race division. The media is a business that survives on viewer numbers. They have to bait people to watch. fear and anger sell.
This! James had a very long and troubling history of mental health issues and needed intensive and competent psychiatric care. While I am quite happy the jury acknowledged that James had mental health issues; they decided that he was of sound mind at the time of the crime and was fully aware his actions were wrong.
It’s so crazy if someone answered that last second behavioral health call before he went on to shoot there is a slight chance this could have been avoided.
Yeah, he probably kept shooting so they wouldn't try to parole him back out on the streets. I'm guessing the over/under for the number of times you use the phrase "libtard" in a week is like 9 or 10. Thoughts? Nevermind. You don't have those.
This has definitely stayed in people’s heads. I remember when Joker came out everyone in the theater was enjoying the movie and everything was fine. With about maybe 2 minutes left to go in the movie, someone from the front of the theater gets up out of their seat and starts sprinting to the exit door that leads out to the parking lot. This freaked a lot of people in the theater out and you could hear people start to gasp and mumble to themselves. People started getting up and moving to the exit and many missed the last scene. Nothing ended up happening and that person who sprinted was probably scared, but unusual behavior spooked everyone out because there was a lot of speculation that a shooting would happen again, due to the Joker character
@@nephthysz butthurt over a lost election and here is the kicker. her last name is salinez, you know the type of people trump love. she is a disgrace to herself and her ethnicity.
Sounds like he was the exact opposite of a normal child. His mom said he lost his joy when he was a teenager but he tried to kill himself multiple times when he was 10 and 11.
I worked as a maintenance supervisor/usher at a local movie theater years after this happened. But when the new Joker movie was coming out, the managers were not fucking around, and constantly stressed to the workers about the possiblity of a shooting. No costumes were allowed. We even gathered everybody to the projector room just to discuss methods to alert people to evacuate and how to block off neighboring theaters if possible so they wouldnt get shot up. The managers were even thinking about hiring local police officers to be on the grounds. One manager was working for the theaters when this event happened and was probably the most tense for the Joker release. Thank the lord all that happened was the release of an astounding movie and nothing else. But the impact of this event alone has shifted the movie going experience on a whole new level its insane.
I live in the Chicago suburbs, and I went to see the new joker by myself in Orland park, IL Not at the midnight premiere A few weeks after They had guards in the back of the theater watching everybody like a hawk Marcus theater in Orland did not mess around I remember hearing a small group of people complaining about the guards Before I could say anything, multiple other people verbally eviscerated them, asking if they came from stupid town The movie was amazing, but hearing that interaction put me on cloud 9
It was hard for me to go to movies after this. I was with my mom and brother driving to Nevada when we stopped at popular gas station in Barstow when I saw the breaking news of what happened.
It’s so sad because seeing him in college he seems so normal. He liked video games, he ran track, he wanted to be a neuroscientist, he had good grades in high school. On paper this is a normal young man with a bright future. So sad knowing how the story ends
The effort and time you put into these to give free content is insane! This could absolutely be on Netflix or mainstream TV. You always put out decent content! Thank you!
It's so bizarre. Watching that video of him speak, he seems friendly enough, knowledgeable, and more or less comfortable speaking in public (not unlike most other teenagers giving similar presentations). It's like this guy was two entirely different people in different settings.
When he was giving his presentation there wasn't a single ah, uh, derp, or pause. He delivered information flawlessly for minutes and never misspoke once. That stands out to me.
He's probably locked in isolation 23hrs a day and his communication skills are deteriorating along other things. He's probably on seroquel too. Hes locked up and that does have an effect on people and even more when in isolation
This guy is a real life "changeling." Every single photo of him displayed here looks COMPLTELY DIFFERENT from the one before it. Yes, I am very aware that people look changes as they age, but it's even true of photos that were taking within a few months of each other. His appearance changes DRASTICALLY from photo to photo, culminating in him dying his hair to look as different as humanly possible.
This was a very sad event. Hurts to think back to it and imagine myself there. Terrible tragedy like any other senseless shooting with ill intent. Thank you for putting this video together. God bless to all.
Don't do drugs. Then you'll realize this is a time perception research study that he is forced to participate in and work on. When you are clear headed you will see clearly why is happening.
@@haiynuts Ah, that word salad was completely unnecessary. There was something very strange with that $10k gun the Uvalde shooter used as well. No way he bought that.
Sometimes people are clever enough to deceive mental health professionals enough to manipulate a conclusion. E.G, "patient scores low on psychometric test therefore they are not a threat". When really they are.. Obviously its not thst simple and there are also likely other reasons why people slip through the net. As was said, it's rare. Imo not enough ppl have tests for things like mental health conditions. M.H conditions are obviously nothing to do with psychopathy/ sociapathy etc but still important for peoples more general wellbeing.
@@Skinner90210 what is so not normal about his presentation?? I saw a lot weirder ones in high school and college, I mean he seems nervous but a lot of people don’t like to speak in public.
@@Jered999 Nothing. People just think his presentation comes off as weird because they already know he killed people later on. That was one of the most normal and frankly boring presentations I've ever seen. People are going to think everything about him is weird now, when they wouldn't have batted an eye at this if he hadn't committed mass murder.
they are not going to do anything short of very specific intentional recorded terroristic threats - and even then they will lean more than likely to still not do anything - the shrink will ask any thoughts of harming yourself or others after going into an hour long tirade - just tell them no.
@@nate8867 It kinda is. The supposed experts said he was no danger even though he told them that he wanted to kill people. Then they diagnosed him with OCD? WTF... Those people need to be fired and never work in any field that deals with people at all
@@ThePunk01 he was deceptive to them he wrote in his journal that he didn’t want the therapists (mind rapists) to know his real plans. How is it their fault in that case?
@@ThePunk01 yeah thats so easy to say in hindsight. You know how many people say they want to hurt other people or kill other people. So we should just lock of millions and millions of people who say that? Or instead not be able to have open discussions about what we feel or what we can say. Like the commenter above said. He was deceptive with all of them. Also like the counselor or whoever said she hears kids tell her ALL THE TIME that they want to kill other people or hurt themselves or others. I cant stand people like you who always after the fact think everything was so obvious and someone should have done this or that. Not to mention people like you always have zero qualifications or expiration in anything. I would love to see you interview 1000 kids for months with all the stuff they will tell you and see how you would handle each cases. I guarantee you could listen to 1000 different people with future killers thrown in there and you have no clue how to pick them out of the bunch or what to do with each person. Your the stupid classic monday morning quarterback. “Oh they should have done this, they should have done that” but if it was you in the moment before it happened you probably would have f*cked up 10 times as bad. “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that” - George Carlin
He actually didn't say that he was targeting people who were escaping to prevent them from escaping. He said seeing them escaping actually drew attention towards them wishes why he fired at them. Take that note down if you ever have to deal with a mass shooter
This footage of him giving the presentation is especially scary in the sense that he seems anything but a violent spree killer. He isn't any more or less "odd" than a multitude of science minded gamer types. Of course knowing what he ended up doing makes you scrutinize every last pause and gesture...looking for the one thing that we can look at as something like a sign. Is madness written on the face?
idk man something about4 his eyes...but at the same time...like you said some pictures he looks like the regular average kid/guy...and to be fair its easier to say "oh its his eyes" after the fact...because he is/was "smart" to me he has the "im smarter than you" type of look.
I remember this shooting. But for some reason I never heard that a 6 year old little girl was among the victims. It’s always so much worse when little ones are killed in such senseless attacks. Not to suggest that any of the other deaths aren’t also tragic. It’s just that she only got 6 years to live. Her parents must have been devastated.
The same can be said of Steven Kazmierczak. The fact that he was studying to be a psychiatrist to "help people like [him]" is the most heartbreaking aspect of his case.
Watching his presentation he seems so brilliant and confident… it terrifies me that I would’ve found him charming had I been in that presentation. Ugh!!!! He was smart, funny… my type back then. 😳😳😳😳😳
same can be said about a lot evil people in history, scientists experimenting on people, nuclear bombs, all brilliant minds but legit psychopaths too..
The fact that he has so many adult professionals in his life dismissing his thoughts and behavior, is just mind blowing. He literally told a professional Psychiatrist that he wanted to kill people, and was completely dismissed of it. Not only is that wholly unprofessional, but is also irresponsible and lazy. Having psychosis is really hard and if it's not detected early and treated, it could end in a result just like this. Now imagine if those people who heard his testimony on homicidal thoughts- He more than likely would've never done what he did. I wholeheartedly believe he shouldn't be in prison, but an intensive care psych ward, where he is treated and medicated. What a complete waste of human intelligence brought down by the very people who could've prevented it. Everyone in his life failed him.
I have mental illness as well, but I don't go around killing people. He did what he did. He shouldn't get a cushy life in psych ward. You can say they aren't cushy, but compared to prison, they are. I think we just need more therapists in prisons that can work with these people, but to allow him the luxury of being put in a psych ward. Nah. He should rot for what he did. You can defend and blame everybody but him all you want, but in the end it's his actions that have consequences. They failed him, and he failed himself. I'm sure the parent's of that little girl he killed would have differing views to you on allowing him into a psych ward. Even if he's treated and medicated, which I think would be a waste because even if he was, he'd never get out, he still needs to pay for his crimes. He wasted his own intelligence. He's a grown man. Even with mental illness, it is his own fault for the horrible act he committed. Not anybody else. He should be in prison. Yeah, his mental illness may explain why he did it, but it doesn't excuse it.
@@sandollor Practically no one even knows what OCD is, especially the millions of people that claims to have OCD just because they don't like being dirty. It's frustrating to see people act like they can make a mental diagnosis on someone they've never met, and what information they do have is extremely biased, and in no way paints a full picture of his mental state.
@@zthecat Yeah its also frustrating to see every youtuber say I have that too. I'm this and that lol. Everyone has a condition nowadays, eveyones an expert too. So I agree.
Even to this day it is presented as though this man was a dedicated Batman fan fulfilling his dream of becoming the Joker. He picked the movie because it was convenient. Based on his research that theater was the best in the building to attack. He picked a date and time and The Dark Knight Rises just happened to be opening that day.
@Grimace Did you watch the video? It's clearly explained in the video that James had no interest in Batman at all before he began planning the shooting. Also the Joker has green hair. Watch the video, read some comics, don't spew misinformation.
Poor Jessica Redfield man, imagine being so damn unlucky that you end up in not one but TWO mass shootings only to lose your life in the second one. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.
Something shifted in America after this happened, all of a sudden mass shootings were happening left and right. While many attribute themselves to Columbine, this one was sinister and proved that this madness could really happen anywhere. :(
Looking at all the pictures in most of them he looks aloof, like there’s nothing much going on in his head but when the photo of him dressed up in that gear showed up I was taken back, the pure anger in his facial expression is the exact moment that mask slipped and he showed his true feelings. What’s scary about this dude is how well he hid the murderous intent.
My boyfriend was good friends with one of the girls that was there when that happened. She had went to see The Dark Knight with her friend and dad. Her dad ended up dying cuz he had thrown himself over the two girls and protected them from the gunfire. And my bf was actually supposed to go to that showing, however at the last minute the friend he was supposed to go with called him and cancelled due to feeling sick. My bf tried finding other people to go with but no one was available so he just stayed home. If he and his friend had gone they may have died that night too. When we had went to Denver to pick up his daughter, we actually ended up going and seeing a movie at that theater and they have a memorial inside for those that died. It’s so sad.
@@marlon7869 lol umm ok. We weren’t together at that time anyway and no he wasn’t. Like fr who tf leaves a comment like that?? The friend he was supposed to go with that night was a guy, not the girl.
I remember seeing it on the news as a 12 year old and was shocked to see so many people running from the theatre and bleeding, I'm surprised they showed that much on the news...
@@luisr109888 Maybe he looks like he drank one too many redbull but saying it's an absolute nightmare fuel... You would see him in the streets I bet you won't even notice him.
My mom was a first responder therapist, we lived about 10-15 minutes from this movie theater and it was surreal for months and months given that it was the first real tragedy in my surrounding area that i experienced and what it did to the atmosphere of colorado, ontop of already having columbine in our history. Me and my family were supporting a girl who had lost her boyfriend that had jumped in front of her to take a bullet and save her life. We supported her with some supplies for her entering college and it was as well so surreal witnessing someone who had witnessed that event herself and suffered such a loss. Its changed my life and i hope and pray the victims families and loved ones continue to stay healthy and strong to this day.
You wouldn’t know that he’s a killer just by looking at him, that’s the most scary part, you never know a killer by looking at them, they’re literally everywhere and we just don’t know
This is a really minor point in this but I noticed that he said he had wireless headphones and that he tried to call the help line but couldn't hear anyone on the call. I can't help but wonder if he was using the phone itself while Bluetooth was connected and if that hadn't happened how this may have played out.
@@dawn-blade In this, Holmes says that he called the help line one last time to see if there was any sign he should not follow through with the murders. He said that he ended the call after 9 seconds because nobody was on the line. But before that he mentions that he had wireless headphones. If he was using the phone to make the call while connected to Bluetooth, or he was using Bluetooth headphones while the call audio was coming from the phone, then he wouldn't hear the person from the help line. And if that hadn't happened all of those people might still be alive.
Bluetooth in 2012 didn’t have your phone play music AND make calls. Only calling....his IPod was probably connected (maybe if he had iPhone, but tech wasn’t there yet) via Bluetooth. Soooo your original comment confused me so much? you’re saying if he didn’t have his music playing on Bluetooth then he would’ve heard the call? Maybe he had two devices (IPod) (Phone). Maybe he didn’t start the music yet when he was on the phone. Either way, 9 second phone call is too quick, a missed call is about 30 sec. This animal made his decision in those quick 9 seconds.
None of us will ever be the same- being there not required. I’ll bet there isn’t anyone in the US who doesn’t think about this when they walk into a movie theater. Same walking into a concert.. or any packed public place. The very goal of terrorists.
Holmes’ psychiatrist, Lynne Fenton, was reprimanded by the Colorado Board of Medical Examiners, in 2005, for prescribing drugs to several patients, including herself, without entering the information in patient records
@@Shane3599 Yeah she was at least very very negligent in her practice in my opinion... She was giving speed to a guy who is telling you he is homicidal!
@@randykitchleburger2780 she’s part of the problem and is partly responsible for the massacre too then… also goes to show that therapists and psychiatrists sometimes only just look at shallow things and doesn’t probe into their patients because they generally and genuinely don’t care about helping and treating their patients… he literally confessed to her that he’s been homicidal. Sometimes its a miss to give someone the benefit of the doubt and ignore the signs that someone would massacre people. Of course no one can ever exactly predict the future but she is a professional… it’s her job to help people like this murderer. Well before they become a murderer.
My third grade teacher was in the room when he opened up on the crowd. In 2018 my class was having a discussion about mass shootings after a lockdown, and she had told us she keeps a baseball bat at the door to our classroom due as a last option in the case of a active shooter. She has never had to use it (as of 2023) and I wont forget the amount of badass that courses through her veins.
This still is gut-wrenching to see. Almost 10 years since it occurred. Praying for all the families who lost a loved one or got impacted from this tragedy.
He acquired his guns legally too; guess we can't use that as proof you're a "good guy with a gun" ... looks like we need more comprehensive regulations including _ongoing_ mental health checks if you feel compelled to own an arsenal what other safety measures guarantee myself and many others who don't want to own a gun be given? since clearly acquriing them legally isn't proof and a guarantee you won't use them for illegal activitis?
Yeah your prayers will help alot... Why not pray for the world? And everything that's happening? Pray for world peace. FFS pray for anything that can happen. I guarantee that it won't happen.
@@egregiousqueef7781 Having a gun is the biggest deterent to crime. If a criminal knows you have a weapon they are least likely to target you. If the guy knew that everybody in that theater had guns he wouldn't have dared to go on a shooting spree.
i was 9 when this shooting happened and i’ve never forgotten about it on the news. although i love going to the movies, this situation alone gave me a huge fear of sitting near any door in a movie theater
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 you’d think that, but i think it’s the fact that he used an exit door to slip back in is what scared me. it kinda feels like i’m playing a roulette when deciding which door to sit next to lol
I know someone who survived this night. It’s taken years of therapy, and faith, my friend is finally living a life happily. The scars from that night still haunt her though. Many were not so lucky. Their sibling has and still is struggling with sever depression, and substance abuse. Prayers for all involved, both living and laid to rest 🙏 ❤️
@@AnomalyArcadie most places don't allow firearms, even with a ccl. Plus, if your husband was casually watching a movie while shoveling popcorn down his gullet, and I walked up and shot him in the back of the head, it really wouldn't matter what he was carrying.
@Pondo Logo better than a false sense of security. I support the right to own a gun and protect yourself, but a lot of these gun people are delusional. 99% of the time it's not going to save you.
With respect, he had full bulletproof armor on, not just Teflon vests. Even if you had 10 shots off, you would have missed 6 or 7 from that distance to where he was and if you hit him with the other 3 or 4, you wouldn’t have likely drawn blood but pissed him off. I repeat the man had a shotgun, a semi-automatic pistol, a fucking AR-15 rifle and a backup handgun. You stand no chance. 0.
I remember this night very well. My brother was at the theater down the road seeing the same showing. We count our blessings every time we see something about this shooting.
I suffer from severe social anxiety too. My heart breaks for his mother and the lives he had slain, but James had such a promising life, his erudition and support network... Mental illness is devastating, many people feign 'normality' to avoid being institutionalised.
There's no reason to pretend to be normal. Insurance companies only pay for a week of inpatient mental health care and then they kick you out. The only truely institutionalized people are those in a prison hospital or suicidal people.
@@sinciti9354 I hope you aren’t referring to Adolf Hitler. He was extremely outspoken on how he wanted to rid the world of religion and direct all attention to the German state.
First and foremost, my condolences and sympathy for all those whom lost their life in this brutal attack. Second, this is a prime example of failure by the system: James Holmes told multiple people about the homicidal thoughts he struggled with, and time and time again people brushed it off. It’s a shame, because I feel with more intervention, maybe even just a brief stay at a psychiatric facility, could have stopped this massacre.
This dude was just evil because he hated himself. I don't buy that he was ill with anything. These people never are ill with anything. They simply just hate themselves, and eventually they take it all out on others in some attempt to relieve themselves of the pain. Really doubt that hapless medicines and a few more days locked away in a hospital prison could have made any difference for him.
I go back and forth with this - she called in another psychologist to assess him, and he also deemed him "okay" to leave. As disgusting as the killer is, he is obviously very intelligent and knew how to manipulate those psychological professionals. However, he specifically openly talked to them about his homicidal idealizations, however I too have kept things close to my chest from psychologist at first before establishing trust, and felt safe. It's so easy to say what "should/could" have been done after the fact, but thoughts of self harm, or harming others is not as uncommon as people think. The majority of people just know not to act upon those thoughts, and that those thoughts are not your own - they're fleeting.
Psychiatrists are not mind readers. Even though he thought he was telling the doctor at the school what she needed to hear, she didn't seem to be just rubber stamping him and sending him on his way. She brought in a specialist, talked to the people who knew him, attempted to continue seeing him even as a non-student. She can't order involuntary holds willy-nilly and even if she did it's likely he would've done what he needed to do to get through his 72 hours and be released. Perhaps more would've been done if the doctor had talked to the ex-girlfriend, but I bet no one knew she existed or that they had been in recent contact. Should also note that even though he was more candid with the ex, no warning bells went off for her either, and she presumably knew him better than most people. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I'm sure the doctor has enough anguish already with her own woulda, shoulda, couldas
Lived in Colorado my whole life, even today it feels sad to pass by this theater. I was a kid when it happened but somehow I remember what I was doing that day. This definitely has affected us indirectly because my family and I recently went to see a movie and we were super paranoid. We planned our way out in case of a shooting and all. Thankfully nothing happened but it sucks that we have to prepare for the worst.
Yep same here. I live about 30 min away from that theatre. It’s hard not to drive by it and not think about what happened. It affected everyone in our community, somebody around always know someone or themselves that were involved with the shooting that night. It’s wild to think about.
When I was living in Aurora, we had a work event to go see a Marvel movie there. I really didn't want to go. Every other movie I watched in Aurora was at Movie Tavern.
Crazy to think that if that hotline call had gone through there would have been no shooting. This dude wanted help but just didn’t find what he needed.
This story is honestly one of the craziest events, in terms of the details and how the crime was performed. It’s a story that sticks to you. As a theater was a always a family friendly place to forget about the world and enjoy another on screen. Now, it feels like every other outing to a theater I get half way through the movie before the thought pops in my head of “what if there is a shooter/ shooting about to happen”. “Where would I go and what would I do”…
It's mad because at, 8:05, he seems like any other kid his age. Very normal, maybe a bit nervous, but overall a likeable guy. I know there are no real signs to someone being a mass-murderer, but that's kinda my point. What makes a kid switch from being a pretty normal, average teenager, to a guy that wants to viciously murder strangers in cold blood. It's as fascinating as it is mind-blowing. Edit: To the few people that are so desperate to tell me that he's not normal or an average teen because he's slightly awkward or nervous and that they and their friends aren't - calm down there superstars and get a grip of yourselves. It's actually embarrassing and I promise you, you aren't half as "cool" as you think you are. You also totally misunderstood, or purposely misinterpreted, what I was trying to get across in some desperate attempt at getting validation from strangers on the internet. In fact I can't think of anything dorkier, or misguided, to be honest - it's just sad.
Lots of psychological research has been done on that topic. It's a deep pool, looking into it may forever change your perception. As big of a monster as this guy was, he's not really that different from me and you, even though we might like to pretend he is. Just like any person or group of people who do horrendous things, they are people just like us.
Only a dork coul find this display as "average teen" Definitely strikes me as a shy nervous awkward guy. I guess with this new generation those traits are becoming more and more common though aren't they.
@Terfife TH-cam it says on my account. Anime guy😅 it's just am artists recreation of a catboykami screenshot. Definitely not an anime kiddo. I didn't mean to offend anyone was just my honest observation. ✌
@@bigsteppa2116lol I'm in my 20s an the fact your triggered kinda proves my point no?..😅 Besides that's not what I said at all. I think you'll find that ever since MK ultra was set up that's when serial killers in mass started showing up. Alot of famous serial killers had the same phsycs.
I remember this day so clearly. I was 10 at the time and visiting my aunt who lives in Colorado. We went to aurora to pick up some barbacoa from the Mexican supermarket and drove right past the movie theater, just hours before this took place. I even told my mom that I wanted to see the dark night as we drove by. Thank god I was in my very talkative annoying little kid phase and she hit me with “okay” and left it at that. My aunt informed us what happened later that night.
This video was so well put together that fact you don’t have more subscribers blows my mind you put in so much work and detail in to these so much info in one video keep it up
I was living in Denver at the time and this was the closest theatre and we went to see it that night! Thankfully we decided to go to the burbs instead as our friend lived out there and wanted to go.
Used to go to this theatre with my family and friends growing up, my friend and his parents went to the theatre that night, and the theatre only had 2 tickets left. My friends mom told her husband and son to go in and enjoy the movie, and that she’d go home. They refused, because they all wanted to see the new batman movie together. They only escaped being there that night because the theatre was short one ticket.
This was a phenomenal video, well done. I live only thirty or so minutes away from where this tragedy took place and it's still talked about everywhere. Keep the great content coming
Seems like he was begging to be called out on his bs during his psychiatry sessions. This culminates with his call right before the shooting. I’m not advocating for a sentence for his psychiatrist, but man how did she not flag this guy. Incredibly sad and life changing event for us all.
@@cmk5724Absolutely. Dr. Lynne Fenton should have been faced with a civil lawsuit filed by the families of the deceased. The judgment would force Dr. Fenton to cover the cost of the funeral expenses of the deceased.
I remember the day this happened. The second I saw it was at a movie theater, I knew exactly how he did it. Me and my group of friends used to send one person in the theater, buy one ticket, then go sit in the front row and nonchalantly stick something in the emergency door so we could all sneak in. I knew that was exactly what he did somehow. And in the theater all of the ppl have to run towards you to escape.
Oh Jesus, I thought me and my friends were the only ones who did that! It was something that didn't even register to me years ago when this happened. I didn't even think about that for a second. I feel so stupid and sick now.
Do emergency doors when opened not set off an alarm in the US? Places I've worked at in the UK and places where I've been if you open an emergency door it sets off an alarm. So you can't open it without staff/security being alerted.
@@auroraizzy Before this tragedy happened, the doors on both sides of the screens in front of the theater were exit only. You could not enter through them, but they were frequently used to exit into the parking lot whenever a movie was over. When I was a kid, my Dad would always figure out what theater the movie we were seeing would be and park close to that exit door so that we didn't have to walk through the lobby but just right to the car whenever the movie was over. Today those doors are emergency only and an alarm sounds if they are opened.
I honestly had no idea James Holmes as still alive. For some reason I thought he was killed during it all. This story was so tragic but you told it very well and I appreciate you clearing up all these details. Your videos are quite educational and interesting. I pray for the families and am glad James got the maximum penalty for such a horrible crime.
You’re probably remembering Newtown shooter, unclear if he was shot or shot himself vis a vis Final Report Crime scene photos, 911 call, contradicting LE statements, ballistics ect.
When this terrible night occurred I was in my 3rd week of boot camp. In the morning shortly after waking our division Chief came in and asked the room if anyone lived or had family in Colorado. I raised my hand and was taken with two other recruits in the backroom where we were told the news and location of the attack. My heart dropped to my feet when I heard Batman opening. I knew my brother 16 at the time would have been at a theater that night. We were given a chance to call home, the first time since getting to boot camp, to check on our families. Luckily, despite being at the midnight opening, my brother was at a different theater. I was the one who broke the news to him in tears when I heard his voice. It was quite unexpected that he would answer the phone instead of my mom or step father.
This event will forever live in my memory. A group of my friends were talking about going to see Dark Knight and didnt invite me. I was upset and mad at them amd went to see it by myself in a different theater. Halfway through the movie my phone just kept vibrating from my mom textimg amd calling me. She didn't say anything, just asking if i was okay. I said I was fine amd that was it. After the movie I walked out amd there's a cop car parked in front of the theater. Mind you, I was at least half an hour away from the Century theater. I get home amd see the news and I start freaking out. My friends were talking about going to Aurora because one of our friends had moved to Aurora and she was talking them into going to a theater up there. I was freaking out until morning when I got the news that they had decided not to go. Craziest 12 hours of my life.
@@Ash-zh5yg thought the same stuff. It’s almost believable but still ends up in „that never happened land“ I kinda hope I’m wrong because it’s sick to get internet clout by lying about mass murder. But we all know there are more sick people out there
The saddest part was the fact that a mom with a little baby/toddler had died protecting her baby. She laid over the baby/toddler when he came towards her and shot her. Breaks my heart
@@dwavyy300 I'm not familiar with ewu but JCS is much more focused on interrogation techniques and criminal psychology than just a straightforward true crime channel.
@@kennethabshire9669 the undisputed truth.. or the temptations. I can't remember who did it first but the undisputed truth is the version I know better.
This is the most in depth and most objective analysis of this incident. Thanks Ape Hunch. Usually the media is way too hyperbolic. It’s important right now to understand how this happens.
I remember my friends were too scared to go to movie theaters soon after this happened. I understood them. It's crazy how stuff like this happens when you're shopping, going to school or just trying to enjoy a movie in a theater.
Unfortunately I haven't seen many of this creator's videos recently, except I have 'binge watched' three in a row today... And wow! absolutely brilliant work. So well researched and presented. Plenty of different facts about each case and none of that looping video and the same stuff being repeated over and over again. He was good before, but he's surpassed himself with recent masterpieces. Thank you Ape Huncho.
ape huncho is the most accurate crime documenter and news outlet in the UK in my opinion. Im glad to have seen your channel grow and i cant wait for you to get the thousands more views and subs that you deserve
I read through his journal for a Final in my psychology class while i was in college, the amount of thought he put into killing people still scares me.
He said he chose that theater over the several theaters closer to his house because of that theaters sign telling patrons that firearms were not permitted. This, obviously, made it less likely he would encounter resistance while attempting mass murder. This is kind of important
Moved to Denver in 2012, and my roommate was/still is a huge Batman fan. We decided to go to the midnight showing of the movie (him, his girlfriend, and I). My roommate wanted to go to the aurora theatre, because he always said you would get bed bugs at the downtown theatre, with it just being dirty. His girlfriend picked me up, and we were gonna meet him at the theatre when he got off work at his resturaunt. We got to the theatre, and pulled up early so we could get the drinks and food for when he got there, so we wouldn’t miss the movie. As we were walking up, my roommate texted saying “I just got stuck rolling silverware, and don’t want to miss a second of the movie, so just come to the Denver theatre”. So we went to the Denver theatre, watched the movie, and went home and passed out at like 3am. I was off the next day so I slept in late, and that was that. I woke up the next morning with 30 missed calls from my whole family. I still didn’t know what had happened, until I called them back and they said turn on the tv. Every year since then I’ve gotten the “photo memory from a year ago” Facebook notification which reads “Going with Nate to see Batman whoop some candy ass at midnight” and it always gives me chills. Because he had to roll silverware, we switched theatres last second. Life is wild
Edit: I keep seeing questions on what rolling silverware is, and realized the term might be know mainly if you worked as a server. You take a fork and a knife, roll it up in a napkin, and that's it. You do it before shifts and after to keep a nice stock of silverware at your ready.
not enough attention on this post - you fuckin dodged a bullet - or in this instance, fuckin loads of them. You are fuckin lucky.
Nate fuckin knew, fuckin one-armed, grassy knoll lovin Nate
Wow thats was luck. Im glad you are alive man! Take care
@@Fartagnon 🤣
the real question is did you end up with bed bugs
His mom going door-to-door looking for friends hits really hard. Especially if you're a parent. It sounds like she tried really hard to do good for him.
@The world is mine in 2o21 / Not true. You can have some of the best parents in the world and still end up this way. And when i say best parents i mean the ones who discipline you when u are wrong and praise you for doing good. Sometimes ppl just are into violence or have mental health issues. You never know what someone has going on in their head. Look at most parents lately that are killed by their kids. It's bc they told their kids no they can't have something of go somewhere but these kids feel entitled lately and it's bc the government won't even let us raise or discipline or kids anymore. You got kids that constantly call the police on their parents for taking away their phone and in one case i saw they actually took the dad to jail and the mother got custody. It's crazy. So parents are afraid to be able to do what they think is best. So if anything blame the system. I remember going to juvenile for disrespecting my aunt who raised me or not opening my door, they took it off the hedges.
2 or more shooters that night
@The world is mine in 2o21 that's not true at all! Plenty of parents have taught their children morals, disciplined them and so on, only to have that same child become a monster!
@UCb-W0ZuGQtGl4ttlcV9sxFw *says a bunch of bullshit with no proof* source:”trust me bro” shut the fuck up.
@@kristianmopsticc2887 I think you replied to the wrong comment?
When this happened back then it was presented like he was some kind of a crazy batman fan in the media.
That got so bad that people today still think he was dressed as the Joker.
He was decked out in so much tactical gear that he was mistaken for SWAT, until they noticed he was heading away.
The last few years it become obvious that the media wants to make money first and inform accurately second. The mask is completely off now.
Yeah I remember that! The news was saying he dressed up like the Joker and he was some sick deranged obsessive Batman fan! Your so right, I DO REMEMBER the media made him seem like a cult die hard Marvel and Batman fan!
@@Bellaboo22228 Batman is DC
yeah lmao they even thought we wanted to be the joker
Last movie I ever saw in theaters, my best friend was there, he's okay physically but not mentally. We both went to midnight premiers in different states, we talked about how excited we were. He lost his phone in the stampede and I heard about the massacre as soon as I got home and spent all night thinking he was dead. His brother was injured and never able to play college baseball again and now is a dying alcoholic.
:(
Man thats just sad. 😢
Guess your name is Greenberg-Sexton.
I smell something. It smells reminiscent to shit, almost as if a bull excreted it.
:(
The most eerie thing about Jessica Redfield's story is that a month before the Dark Knight shooting, she was at the Toronto mall shooting and she wrote in her blog that she felt a very uneasy, sickening feeling which made her step outside of the food court at the mall. Seconds later the mass shooting happened in the food court. When she made her way outside after the mass shooting, that's when she tweeted about the guy dressed as Batman who was charging tourists to take pictures. A month later, she becomes the victim of another mass shooting at the premiere of a Batman movie over 1,000 miles away. If that is not Final Destination-like, I don't know what is. So tragic.
That's a slew of strange coincidences.
@@Blobby192 you're conflating two different things.
How dumb are you?
These American mass shootings are full of coincidences that twist your mind up. It's the mockery aspect of the psyop.
@@Blobby192 How many mass shootings have occurred on Earth in the history of the Universe. The chances of being in two of them within a month is beyond comprehension. Using the word, coincident doesn't really fit imo.
I remember how they tried to present him as a though he thought he was the joker
Exactly and the joker had nothing to do with the film. The media was 4 years to late. If he turned up in a name mask is have understood the connection but What? Died hair oh he's the joker! Where's the make up the clothes lol
Just proves how msm is nothing more than scumbags that could care less about the truth, only pushing their own false narrative....
The original joker did kill the audience and not just the talk show host. It's one of the cartoons.
Whatever gets them the ratings they will use, welcome to corporate trash
@Mr Pussy Juice They had limited information? So they just make up false information without checking it? The media does stuff like that all the time. A shooting in a theater would get views. But a deranged Joker fan dressing up as the Joker and shooting up a theater gets more views.
James: “I want to kill everyone.”
Therapist: “He’s not a threat.”
she said she heard about homicidal ideation alot from students, so i guess it was normalised for her. also her being a therapist i think she'd hear alot of weird stuff anyway
@@shesthemanful the psychiatrist tho...
It's not fair to blame the therapist or the psychiatrist. You can tell from the story that the psychiatrist had a hunch that he was dangerous; she even had a colleague who specialized in violent potential talk with Holmes. The problem is that it's not that hard to fool behavioral health professionals if that's your goal. We aren't psychic and although we do our best to diagnose illness appropriately and watch for suicidal and homicidal risks, intelligent psychopaths can fool us too. People also need to understand that every state has different rules for what constitutes the criteria for a temporary Psychiatric hold on a person, and it is rarely as simple as the provider saying "let's hold that person for 3 days." My heart goes out to the doctor a day the therapist who were involved and I suspect blamed themselves unfairly. Nothing but suffering all around.
2 or more shooters and he was drugged or under mind control
😂
Can't believe it's been over a decade. It feels like this didn't happen long ago. I remember going to see the dark rises that saturday there was crazy amount of cops in the theater.
Where I was there would be people periodically checking all the emergency exits to make sure that there was nothing suspicious going on. I don't know if they had any weapons other than the heavy duty flashlight they were using to inspect the doors but if someone did try something they probably would've gotten their skull caved in.
And it's not even a good movie 😮
@@theinnerlight8016I thought it was great
@AvengedSeven09
*number, not amount. "Cops" is plural.
(E.g., it would be "amount" of police, since "police" is not a countable noun. But indivdual "cops" can be counted.)
@@jake12466 who gives a fuck?
The thing I remember with the Aurora shooting was Hans Zimmer (who did the soundtrack to Dark Knight) writing an absolutely breathtaking piece of music in memory of the victims. Still sends shivers down my spine when I hear it today.
Can u tell us song
Such a moving piece. It's just called Aurora to those asking
Hans Zimmer is an ancient Muse in a human incarnation. He will never die, he will just ascend
He done the gladiator film theme to!
The song name is Aurora
Seeing how happy he is about his research and how much he wanted to contribute to society… it’s devastating how much mental health can deteriorate
Still sounded off and weird, honestly speaking.
@@crazyluigi6664 dude, he was fresh out high school doing a presentation to a bunch of college kids & profs. not defending the guy but cmon
@@michaelp6427 Hey, I'm not a professional speaker myself. I can say that if I want to...
@@MelanchlyApex Amen on that front.
@@crazyluigi6664 It's more the sheer difference between him in that presentation and him in the interrogation. He's a lot more with it in the presentation even if he is a little off. In the interrogation you can tell he's so far gone.
I have schizophrenia, was diagnosed when i was 20. I saw and still see those shadowy figures and random hallucinations. I called them shadow ninjas through my whole life. Im 37 now. Ive never felt suicidal or homicidal at all, especially towards innocent people. Some people are just lost. .
Yeah, schizophrenic people are statistically less violent than the general population, and are much more likely to be victimized. Violence is characterized by really high levels of emotion, which you see in Holmes notebook, whereas some of the most difficult and common schizophrenic symptoms are blunted emotions (flat affect) and depression. While the shadowy figures he describes are super common hallucination for those with the illness, he was extremely young to be experiencing them, making it even more unlikely. Makes me sad that people conflate such a difficult and painful illness with violence
I have schizoaffective … no violence here, either…
People will never understand
@TRUMP Won yes, daily… keeps anxiety and mania in check. I’m 51, fyi
@TRUMP Won Its the exact opposite, Marijuana triggers it and makes it 10x worse.
The fact he called a mental health line as a last ditch effort to change his mind and they didn't answer...
He was never going to change his mind.
Ironically like the monster in the McDonald’s shooting
How do you know???!?!?
A documentary
It’s sad all around. Even for this man because no body wanted to help a dry of mental health. We are at the bottom of the list for help.
I remember hearing about this when I was a kid and not wanting to go to a cinema for at least a year
If you were a kid then you're still basically a kid lmao
@@plaguis1391 it was what 9 years ago I was 11
Same. I was 13 when this happened. I went to the theatres for the first time since covid yesterday and I legitimately thought about this case…
@ Plaguis - KFP Dishwashing Machine - you’re the kid for saying “lmao” no adult says that
I remember going with my dad and mom to see the movie.. I was 18 and hadn’t seen a movie with them in years.
it’s so heartbreaking to see the victims fleeing the theater with some dressed up for the movie. they were really excited to enjoy the movie they’ve been so hyped to see and never could’ve expected something so awful to occur. life is so fragile, especially with other monsters around like this guy
He probably ruined the movie for them forever
He’s not a monster, he’s a fragile genius and something happened that broke him and made him do something evil.
@@rosegoldscorpio so many people have issues like that and don't murder
Average NPC comment
@@Weezerand... nice input NPC
I'm speechless... This is NOT what I thought he'd be like before he fell apart. It just goes to show how complex people are.
Yep he really could have had good life
as a society, we have to address what's wrong with white boys.
@@CamJames we have to address what's wrong with the social class that tends to produce the mass shooters.
@@CamJamesblack people commit 60% of violent crime
@@CamJames V tech and Nashville weren't white boys. Also take into account gang violence. More deadly overall than mass shootings and more racially diverse.
That mugshot is definitely insane looking. His eyeballs are looking in different directions.
"So, you want to kill people?"
"Yes, as many as possible."
"Oh..." "But I won't."
"Well, you seem sane. Have some pills."
There's nothing you can do at that point. Unless you say you're planning on doing something, they can't lock you up just for saying you feel like doing something. Many people feel like doing things they don't intend on doing, it's perfectly normal... until they do it. But of course you don't know who's going to do what so everything is hindsight.
@@bink you can be placed on watchlists and not be allowed to own firearms
Right wtf. This speaks to lack of proper training and/or education of these "psychologists". There is still alot of work research and understanding of mental health/human mind.
Big pharma at work, chick that gave him the scrip prolly got a cash bonus for recommending it. Isn't uncommon.
It’s not that easy. What’s the criteria for such a list? Say disagreeing on politics? I don’t doubt your sincerity…. But that’s a dangerous idea.
It’s funny how everyone’s surprised he could be so normal in the power point but it’s not hard when you spend your life depressed to act like you’re not
100 percent
Lmao okay Arthur Fleck
You okay?
People put on a fake front. And social media proves this
Also if you struggle with social interaction but exceed in academics, i could see how he would be confident in something he enjoys or knows he is good at like the powerpoint presentation.
It just goes to show no matter how good your childhood is, your mental health can strike, if u need help, please get help, no one will judge u, don’t take it out on others, rest in peace everyone
edit: I made this post to show what i feel. No need to comment or drag me in the dirt just because I said what I thought. Of course this is a horrible crime and a horrible thing that has happened, but that shouldnt be an excuse for me to express my views
This man created a fear in me when watching movies to this day. I get the edge seats because I’m fearful for my life and always look to the doors. RIP to the victims
Not tryin to talk shit but a coward dies a thousand deaths the likely hood of getting shot is so low it shouldn't even be a worry
is some movie taken about this ?
@@porsche928s4 yeah until you end up shot
@@killmyparanoia we have 7 billion ppl on earth the odds of me being shot are so low it's not even a concern
@@porsche928s4 yeah until you end up shot
His mugshot around the 17 min mark is a legit jump scare.
Yeah. It's got the Michael Jackson look about it.
He looks good
@@darthjesus420 yea kindda looks like you
@@ThornsOfOurTime well can’t you tell we’re the same person?
@@darthjesus420 split personality that split and walked the other way?
4pm-2pm is one hell of a shift
I replayed it just to see if I heard it right too.
seriously. I didnt think he seemed weird in the talk they showed, I mean he was a nervous but not bizarre. Parents need to not push kids so hard and pay attention to them.
@@gjh9299 it’s literally not possible. Something was wrong in the writing. 4pm to 2pm 7 days a week is literally not possible. No matter which way you look at it. For more than a couple days, no.
I feel like he meant to say “4pm to 2am.”
@@JLBeleven agreed but still
So many people let him slip through the net and didn’t report him. So many chances
That psychologist bitch needs to be in prison, too.
@@randalthor6872 what a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. You must be either a child or slow adult.
No they really didn't. Did you miss the part were she called in extra help and or the dude wrote in journal about lying to her? How much more do you think a therapist needs to do? Guy has 10k in the bank and is saying all the right stuff. It's like you people wish we literally lived in the minority report movie and have the government reading everyone's minds and arresting people for thinking about crimes.
@@randalthor6872 lol imagine actually having this opinion 😂 no reasonable and rational adult would say this lmao
@@randalthor6872 that psychology bitch does need to land in prison . If she heard the words come out of his mouth "I want to kill people" , then I would say that during this time the mental health industry is compromised due to this testament and others reported. This is sad..
People like him make going outside a stressful situation
They make going anywhere a stressful situation.
Just carry and don't tell
I wish a mfer would try. I'd turn his psychotic ass into Swiss cheese.
Open carry
America is a scary place
“The message was that, there was no message.” That’s horrifying
Timestamp please 🥺
21:30
He's too medicated to remember what the message was, something went terribly wrong with his brain, I dont think we'll actually know what.
The true definition of a psychopath
@@casanovafrankenstein8538 I don't think he's a psychopath. He probably has some psychopathic traits but he's probably not a full blown psychopath. Having social anxiety as a psychopath is very uncommon
The Media pushed the story that Dark Knights Joker caused this man to kill! But no, he had been begging for help for years. He told many ppl what he felt & what he was going to do. Literally Nobody listened. He told Police officer, his family, school, friends, therapist & he called others. Thats insane that nobody would take him seriously. They failed us and put society in danger
The media sells stories, they sell fear, race division. The media is a business that survives on viewer numbers. They have to bait people to watch. fear and anger sell.
This! James had a very long and troubling history of mental health issues and needed intensive and competent psychiatric care. While I am quite happy the jury acknowledged that James had mental health issues; they decided that he was of sound mind at the time of the crime and was fully aware his actions were wrong.
The theater is less than 20 mins from me, this was one of those things that forever changed our community
stop the cap
@@DaveSCameron look up mkultra
@@DaveSCameron in other words the person is chatting out of their poo poo hole
@@darkfox7929 Man, shut the fuck up!
I was born in ‘02, and the only memory i have of waking up early for a major world event was this one in particular. very haunting
It’s so crazy if someone answered that last second behavioral health call before he went on to shoot there is a slight chance this could have been avoided.
He knew he would get a life of free rent free food no bills.
@@JoshuaJohnson-zj8sr lol ya that was his thinking for sure. Surprised you can put pants on bud
@@donnydarko6042 he got to kill ppl and now he’s getting taken care of. I’m surprised u can breathe without thinking to.
@@donnydarko6042nice user
Yeah, he probably kept shooting so they wouldn't try to parole him back out on the streets. I'm guessing the over/under for the number of times you use the phrase "libtard" in a week is like 9 or 10. Thoughts? Nevermind. You don't have those.
This has definitely stayed in people’s heads. I remember when Joker came out everyone in the theater was enjoying the movie and everything was fine. With about maybe 2 minutes left to go in the movie, someone from the front of the theater gets up out of their seat and starts sprinting to the exit door that leads out to the parking lot. This freaked a lot of people in the theater out and you could hear people start to gasp and mumble to themselves. People started getting up and moving to the exit and many missed the last scene. Nothing ended up happening and that person who sprinted was probably scared, but unusual behavior spooked everyone out because there was a lot of speculation that a shooting would happen again, due to the Joker character
aka CNN was hyping it up, pretty much praying some loser right winger hurt people so they could make their judgements
@Rosma Salinez what the fuck do politics have to do with this....I swear trumpies just cant stop talking
@UCABiR_noFtmvneGWImRQAOg what? It could've been a mass shooting, of course it would be scary. Fucking moron
@Rosma Salinez
Yeah imagine being scared of a mass shooting in a country where mass shootings happen every week.
@@nephthysz butthurt over a lost election and here is the kicker. her last name is salinez, you know the type of people trump love. she is a disgrace to herself and her ethnicity.
Sounds like he was the exact opposite of a normal child. His mom said he lost his joy when he was a teenager but he tried to kill himself multiple times when he was 10 and 11.
@Wrasslin101.If this guy's father had disciplined him, he would have killed him first. Bad parenting is not the cause of this kind of problem.
Bad news James, you're never getting that slurpie machine
Only lots of slurping...
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he IS the slurpy machine now
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Lmao
I worked as a maintenance supervisor/usher at a local movie theater years after this happened. But when the new Joker movie was coming out, the managers were not fucking around, and constantly stressed to the workers about the possiblity of a shooting. No costumes were allowed. We even gathered everybody to the projector room just to discuss methods to alert people to evacuate and how to block off neighboring theaters if possible so they wouldnt get shot up. The managers were even thinking about hiring local police officers to be on the grounds. One manager was working for the theaters when this event happened and was probably the most tense for the Joker release.
Thank the lord all that happened was the release of an astounding movie and nothing else. But the impact of this event alone has shifted the movie going experience on a whole new level its insane.
SMH. You must live in a blue city in a blue state.
@@calvinhobbes6118Reminds me of the Tipper Gore days. Gotta get that rap music away from kids or else they’re gonna become gangsters!
I'll be honest when I went to go see the Joker I was kinda scared of smth like this happening again😅like a fear in the back of your head
I live in the Chicago suburbs, and I went to see the new joker by myself in Orland park, IL
Not at the midnight premiere
A few weeks after
They had guards in the back of the theater watching everybody like a hawk
Marcus theater in Orland did not mess around
I remember hearing a small group of people complaining about the guards
Before I could say anything, multiple other people verbally eviscerated them, asking if they came from stupid town
The movie was amazing, but hearing that interaction put me on cloud 9
It was hard for me to go to movies after this. I was with my mom and brother driving to Nevada when we stopped at popular gas station in Barstow when I saw the breaking news of what happened.
That wide eyed mugshot is terrifying.
Sooo creepy
@@janelewis7747 no he wasn’t 😂 he’s just a deranged person
Kyle Rittenhouse mode
He most certainly was under MK
But...some of us are older than 22 so we know other shit.
i know, its so wierd to see pics of him growing up, cuz he wasnt always crazy eye'd ya know? so interesting and scary
It’s so sad because seeing him in college he seems so normal. He liked video games, he ran track, he wanted to be a neuroscientist, he had good grades in high school. On paper this is a normal young man with a bright future. So sad knowing how the story ends
Whats with the 🍕 pedo sign!
@@AllyT-yh1mu What??? Pizza = pedo? Okay. That's it. I think the Internet has officially broken us.
@@damienleigh9943 literally😹😹😹
@@damienleigh9943 a slang pedo use is pizza when referring to illegal CP which is why he or she said that idk about the pizza emoji tho
@@keuwlcat1319 Maan is that a Chris Hansen thing? I dunno otherwise; never heard of it. But i don't like it; pizza is amazing haha.
The effort and time you put into these to give free content is insane! This could absolutely be on Netflix or mainstream TV. You always put out decent content! Thank you!
@Cian MacGana right
TH-cam is mainstream
He’s getting paid lol
I never manage a full video his voice is boring as feck
@Cian MacGana wow you are woke
It's so bizarre. Watching that video of him speak, he seems friendly enough, knowledgeable, and more or less comfortable speaking in public (not unlike most other teenagers giving similar presentations). It's like this guy was two entirely different people in different settings.
Almost every video about almost every murderer has this exact comment.
mk ultra bro
Bipolar bear disorder.
When he was giving his presentation there wasn't a single ah, uh, derp, or pause. He delivered information flawlessly for minutes and never misspoke once. That stands out to me.
Concentration on point, probably just wanted to get it done and gtfo of there as soon as possible.
@@brianpj5860 you're right
He has said “um” at least a couple times so far, one near the beginning.
He's probably locked in isolation 23hrs a day and his communication skills are deteriorating along other things. He's probably on seroquel too. Hes locked up and that does have an effect on people and even more when in isolation
Homie got tha mk ultra treatment cause he was so smart
This guy is a real life "changeling." Every single photo of him displayed here looks COMPLTELY DIFFERENT from the one before it. Yes, I am very aware that people look changes as they age, but it's even true of photos that were taking within a few months of each other. His appearance changes DRASTICALLY from photo to photo, culminating in him dying his hair to look as different as humanly possible.
He's a mess. Especially with psychotropic drugs, I've seen people get random balloony facial features and odd weight gain/loss in the face.
Probably a multiple personality disorder
Like Bundy
My thoughts as well. It's as if he was constantly trying to outgrow his self. people like this are deeply troubled.
That’s an indication of someone that has a negative self image. They’re uncomfortable with their look and constantly trying to change it.
This was a very sad event. Hurts to think back to it and imagine myself there. Terrible tragedy like any other senseless shooting with ill intent. Thank you for putting this video together. God bless to all.
Did you see the second shooter
@@kristianmopsticc2887 what
My heart breaks for his mom as well as the shooting victims. This is horrible and there were no winners.
Don't do drugs. Then you'll realize this is a time perception research study that he is forced to participate in and work on. When you are clear headed you will see clearly why is happening.
@@Trovies84 What? Try and make sense and try that again.
@@Trovies84lay off the conspiracy crack pipe my guy
@@Leslie_Knope basically calling him an mk ultra agent
@@haiynuts Ah, that word salad was completely unnecessary. There was something very strange with that $10k gun the Uvalde shooter used as well. No way he bought that.
Psychiatrists: i don't see him as a threat.
Psychiatrists after a murder: how could anyone not see the signs.
Why look to the therapist when the biggest warning sign was him buying 1000s or rounds of ammo? Point the finger at the right people.
@@Blobby192 people shouldn’t be allowed to buy so many ammunition like that. It’s just crazy.
Sometimes people are clever enough to deceive mental health professionals enough to manipulate a conclusion. E.G, "patient scores low on psychometric test therefore they are not a threat". When really they are.. Obviously its not thst simple and there are also likely other reasons why people slip through the net. As was said, it's rare. Imo not enough ppl have tests for things like mental health conditions. M.H conditions are obviously nothing to do with psychopathy/ sociapathy etc but still important for peoples more general wellbeing.
@@solarose7820 No it isn't. You're completely brainwashed.
@@beepbopboop7727 that's s normal level of ammo buying
When he’s doing a presentation he seems like such a normal guy. Sheesh man.
If u think this dude is normal ur kidding
Why is there a trend for sheesh?
@@Skinner90210 what is so not normal about his presentation?? I saw a lot weirder ones in high school and college, I mean he seems nervous but a lot of people don’t like to speak in public.
@@flattire4243 that word has existed for a long time.
@@Jered999 Nothing. People just think his presentation comes off as weird because they already know he killed people later on. That was one of the most normal and frankly boring presentations I've ever seen. People are going to think everything about him is weird now, when they wouldn't have batted an eye at this if he hadn't committed mass murder.
James: I literally want to kill people
*kills people*
Everyone in his life: HOW on earth did this happen?!!
If you watch the video it’s not that simple at all
they are not going to do anything short of very specific intentional recorded terroristic threats - and even then they will lean more than likely to still not do anything - the shrink will ask any thoughts of harming yourself or others after going into an hour long tirade - just tell them no.
@@nate8867 It kinda is. The supposed experts said he was no danger even though he told them that he wanted to kill people. Then they diagnosed him with OCD? WTF... Those people need to be fired and never work in any field that deals with people at all
@@ThePunk01 he was deceptive to them he wrote in his journal that he didn’t want the therapists (mind rapists) to know his real plans. How is it their fault in that case?
@@ThePunk01 yeah thats so easy to say in hindsight. You know how many people say they want to hurt other people or kill other people. So we should just lock of millions and millions of people who say that? Or instead not be able to have open discussions about what we feel or what we can say. Like the commenter above said. He was deceptive with all of them. Also like the counselor or whoever said she hears kids tell her ALL THE TIME that they want to kill other people or hurt themselves or others. I cant stand people like you who always after the fact think everything was so obvious and someone should have done this or that. Not to mention people like you always have zero qualifications or expiration in anything. I would love to see you interview 1000 kids for months with all the stuff they will tell you and see how you would handle each cases. I guarantee you could listen to 1000 different people with future killers thrown in there and you have no clue how to pick them out of the bunch or what to do with each person. Your the stupid classic monday morning quarterback. “Oh they should have done this, they should have done that” but if it was you in the moment before it happened you probably would have f*cked up 10 times as bad.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that” - George Carlin
He actually didn't say that he was targeting people who were escaping to prevent them from escaping. He said seeing them escaping actually drew attention towards them wishes why he fired at them. Take that note down if you ever have to deal with a mass shooter
This footage of him giving the presentation is especially scary in the sense that he seems anything but a violent spree killer. He isn't any more or less "odd" than a multitude of science minded gamer types. Of course knowing what he ended up doing makes you scrutinize every last pause and gesture...looking for the one thing that we can look at as something like a sign. Is madness written on the face?
idk man something about4 his eyes...but at the same time...like you said some pictures he looks like the regular average kid/guy...and to be fair its easier to say "oh its his eyes" after the fact...because he is/was "smart" to me he has the "im smarter than you" type of look.
Science-minded gamers is a great phrase.
Science and gamers have nothing to do with this guy. Psychopath's copy others to fit in. Don't be fooled. They're chameleon's.
@@WardenOfTerra scary and true
At the end of the day we understand nothing about the human mind. After all, he’s not a monster, he’s just a human like the rest of us.
He was so meticulous about his planning, I’m shocked he left the bomb detonation to chance instead of just setting a timer
Probably a safety net incase he was actually able to pull out last minute.
He actually supposedly told the police his apartment was booby trapped. There’s something really off about this whole thing.
Think it’s more he was expecting the police to spend longer trying to evacuate everyone and defuse the bomb while he is at the theatre
He was set up, just a fall guy.
@@CTU-JackBauer context?
I remember this shooting. But for some reason I never heard that a 6 year old little girl was among the victims. It’s always so much worse when little ones are killed in such senseless attacks. Not to suggest that any of the other deaths aren’t also tragic. It’s just that she only got 6 years to live. Her parents must have been devastated.
The thing that I don’t understand is why the 6yr old was there! This is no movie for a child to be seeing!!!
I would never bring my 6 year old girl to a film like this.
This kid seemed so bright and could have went on to be a brilliant mind in science. So unfortunate how the mind can become so corroded, ironically.
The same can be said of Steven Kazmierczak. The fact that he was studying to be a psychiatrist to "help people like [him]" is the most heartbreaking aspect of his case.
Yep
Watching his presentation he seems so brilliant and confident… it terrifies me that I would’ve found him charming had I been in that presentation. Ugh!!!! He was smart, funny… my type back then. 😳😳😳😳😳
same can be said about a lot evil people in history, scientists experimenting on people, nuclear bombs, all brilliant minds but legit psychopaths too..
@@rubygirl214is that really what you thought. I wasn’t impressed.
The fact that he has so many adult professionals in his life dismissing his thoughts and behavior, is just mind blowing. He literally told a professional Psychiatrist that he wanted to kill people, and was completely dismissed of it. Not only is that wholly unprofessional, but is also irresponsible and lazy.
Having psychosis is really hard and if it's not detected early and treated, it could end in a result just like this.
Now imagine if those people who heard his testimony on homicidal thoughts- He more than likely would've never done what he did. I wholeheartedly believe he shouldn't be in prison, but an intensive care psych ward, where he is treated and medicated. What a complete waste of human intelligence brought down by the very people who could've prevented it. Everyone in his life failed him.
I think his parents did fine, especially his mum. They did what they could for him
I have mental illness as well, but I don't go around killing people. He did what he did. He shouldn't get a cushy life in psych ward. You can say they aren't cushy, but compared to prison, they are. I think we just need more therapists in prisons that can work with these people, but to allow him the luxury of being put in a psych ward. Nah. He should rot for what he did. You can defend and blame everybody but him all you want, but in the end it's his actions that have consequences. They failed him, and he failed himself. I'm sure the parent's of that little girl he killed would have differing views to you on allowing him into a psych ward. Even if he's treated and medicated, which I think would be a waste because even if he was, he'd never get out, he still needs to pay for his crimes. He wasted his own intelligence. He's a grown man. Even with mental illness, it is his own fault for the horrible act he committed. Not anybody else. He should be in prison. Yeah, his mental illness may explain why he did it, but it doesn't excuse it.
Yikes. I Wish you were one of his victims with this terrible take.
Had me in the first half not gonna lie. He most definitely deserves prison
when a dog catches rabies, you have to put it down
“The solution is to kill everyone”
Psychologist: “Must be OCD...”
I don't even know how she made that conclusion. I hear nothing about him that screams OCD.
Had multiple chances to get him help and prevent this and they sent him home every time. Devastating.
@@okie-kan9240 So you're well read on the DSM-V are you? LOL
@@sandollor Practically no one even knows what OCD is, especially the millions of people that claims to have OCD just because they don't like being dirty. It's frustrating to see people act like they can make a mental diagnosis on someone they've never met, and what information they do have is extremely biased, and in no way paints a full picture of his mental state.
@@zthecat Yeah its also frustrating to see every youtuber say I have that too. I'm this and that lol. Everyone has a condition nowadays, eveyones an expert too. So I agree.
Even to this day it is presented as though this man was a dedicated Batman fan fulfilling his dream of becoming the Joker. He picked the movie because it was convenient. Based on his research that theater was the best in the building to attack. He picked a date and time and The Dark Knight Rises just happened to be opening that day.
@Grimace Did you watch the video? It's clearly explained in the video that James had no interest in Batman at all before he began planning the shooting. Also the Joker has green hair.
Watch the video, read some comics, don't spew misinformation.
@@ToomanyFrancis your wrong
@@oliverjones9639 watch the video.
@@ToomanyFrancis I don't want to lol
@@oliverjones9639 Ignorance is bliss. You know you're wrong and know the video will prove it so of course to don't want to watch it.
Poor Jessica Redfield man, imagine being so damn unlucky that you end up in not one but TWO mass shootings only to lose your life in the second one. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.
Something shifted in America after this happened, all of a sudden mass shootings were happening left and right. While many attribute themselves to Columbine, this one was sinister and proved that this madness could really happen anywhere. :(
Yea you must be young ever hear of a little school named columbine?
@@d_skrilla6479 she literally mentioned it in her comment..
@@HatedNelevated Lmao thank you!! user D_skrilla didn’t even take the time to read the full post 🙄
@@Outd8tddais lmao fr how ironic
Mass shooting always have happened the media just learned fear mongoring sells
Looking at all the pictures in most of them he looks aloof, like there’s nothing much going on in his head but when the photo of him dressed up in that gear showed up I was taken back, the pure anger in his facial expression is the exact moment that mask slipped and he showed his true feelings. What’s scary about this dude is how well he hid the murderous intent.
My boyfriend was good friends with one of the girls that was there when that happened. She had went to see The Dark Knight with her friend and dad. Her dad ended up dying cuz he had thrown himself over the two girls and protected them from the gunfire. And my bf was actually supposed to go to that showing, however at the last minute the friend he was supposed to go with called him and cancelled due to feeling sick. My bf tried finding other people to go with but no one was available so he just stayed home. If he and his friend had gone they may have died that night too. When we had went to Denver to pick up his daughter, we actually ended up going and seeing a movie at that theater and they have a memorial inside for those that died. It’s so sad.
You're boyfriend is banging the girl he's so called friends with
@@marlon7869 lol umm ok. We weren’t together at that time anyway and no he wasn’t. Like fr who tf leaves a comment like that?? The friend he was supposed to go with that night was a guy, not the girl.
@@marlon7869 incel alert
RIP to the dad, to have the instinct to protect others and not think of himself, he is truly a hero!
@@GhostSal absolutely! He saved their lives❤️
I remember seeing it on the news as a 12 year old and was shocked to see so many people running from the theatre and bleeding, I'm surprised they showed that much on the news...
Watching the security footage from inside…my heart absolutely breaks for everyone that was there may you heal from this horrific trauma.
You are an idiot and dont know what trauma really is.
His mugshot is absolute nightmare fuel...
Why do you say that?
@@Reth_Hard 23:25
@@luisr109888 Maybe he looks like he drank one too many redbull but saying it's an absolute nightmare fuel... You would see him in the streets I bet you won't even notice him.
This is the face of mind control
@@luisr109888 I regret clicking the timestamp when I barely started the video wtf that is nightmare fuel XD
My mom was a first responder therapist, we lived about 10-15 minutes from this movie theater and it was surreal for months and months given that it was the first real tragedy in my surrounding area that i experienced and what it did to the atmosphere of colorado, ontop of already having columbine in our history. Me and my family were supporting a girl who had lost her boyfriend that had jumped in front of her to take a bullet and save her life. We supported her with some supplies for her entering college and it was as well so surreal witnessing someone who had witnessed that event herself and suffered such a loss. Its changed my life and i hope and pray the victims families and loved ones continue to stay healthy and strong to this day.
Sounds like she was involved
@@DOOMSDAYD-KILLS-EVERYONE wtf do u mean
You can script a specific person into your life and say they are rich
You wouldn’t know that he’s a killer just by looking at him, that’s the most scary part, you never know a killer by looking at them, they’re literally everywhere and we just don’t know
How insightful.
This is a really minor point in this but I noticed that he said he had wireless headphones and that he tried to call the help line but couldn't hear anyone on the call. I can't help but wonder if he was using the phone itself while Bluetooth was connected and if that hadn't happened how this may have played out.
Dude I think your right that’s wild
@@dawn-blade In this, Holmes says that he called the help line one last time to see if there was any sign he should not follow through with the murders. He said that he ended the call after 9 seconds because nobody was on the line. But before that he mentions that he had wireless headphones. If he was using the phone to make the call while connected to Bluetooth, or he was using Bluetooth headphones while the call audio was coming from the phone, then he wouldn't hear the person from the help line. And if that hadn't happened all of those people might still be alive.
Wtf that's so smart, how wild that shit happens all the time, that's totally what happened
Bluetooth in 2012 didn’t have your phone play music AND make calls. Only calling....his IPod was probably connected (maybe if he had iPhone, but tech wasn’t there yet) via Bluetooth.
Soooo your original comment confused me so much? you’re saying if he didn’t have his music playing on Bluetooth then he would’ve heard the call? Maybe he had two devices (IPod) (Phone). Maybe he didn’t start the music yet when he was on the phone. Either way, 9 second phone call is too quick, a missed call is about 30 sec. This animal made his decision in those quick 9 seconds.
He wouldnt do all tht planning and back out with guns in his hands,he couldve changed his mind 100s of times.
Absolutely terrifying and I feel for any people that have lived through any experience like this. Don’t know if you could ever truly be the same.
None of us will ever be the same- being there not required. I’ll bet there isn’t anyone in the US who doesn’t think about this when they walk into a movie theater. Same walking into a concert.. or any packed public place. The very goal of terrorists.
Holmes’ psychiatrist, Lynne Fenton, was reprimanded by the Colorado Board of Medical Examiners, in 2005, for prescribing drugs to several patients, including herself, without entering the information in patient records
Bruh that’s mad. Tf? She’s clearly not in the right mental state either.
@@Shane3599 Yeah she was at least very very negligent in her practice in my opinion... She was giving speed to a guy who is telling you he is homicidal!
@@randykitchleburger2780 she’s part of the problem and is partly responsible for the massacre too then… also goes to show that therapists and psychiatrists sometimes only just look at shallow things and doesn’t probe into their patients because they generally and genuinely don’t care about helping and treating their patients… he literally confessed to her that he’s been homicidal. Sometimes its a miss to give someone the benefit of the doubt and ignore the signs that someone would massacre people. Of course no one can ever exactly predict the future but she is a professional… it’s her job to help people like this murderer. Well before they become a murderer.
@@Shane3599 Absolutely agree 100%
@@randykitchleburger2780 interesting
My third grade teacher was in the room when he opened up on the crowd. In 2018 my class was having a discussion about mass shootings after a lockdown, and she had told us she keeps a baseball bat at the door to our classroom due as a last option in the case of a active shooter. She has never had to use it (as of 2023) and I wont forget the amount of badass that courses through her veins.
This still is gut-wrenching to see. Almost 10 years since it occurred. Praying for all the families who lost a loved one or got impacted from this tragedy.
He acquired his guns legally too; guess we can't use that as proof you're a "good guy with a gun" ... looks like we need more comprehensive regulations including _ongoing_ mental health checks if you feel compelled to own an arsenal
what other safety measures guarantee myself and many others who don't want to own a gun be given? since clearly acquriing them legally isn't proof and a guarantee you won't use them for illegal activitis?
Yeah your prayers will help alot... Why not pray for the world? And everything that's happening? Pray for world peace. FFS pray for anything that can happen. I guarantee that it won't happen.
Bruh
What is crazy is no one in the theater had a weapon. I carry my glock 19 everywhere I go.
@@egregiousqueef7781 Having a gun is the biggest deterent to crime. If a criminal knows you have a weapon they are least likely to target you. If the guy knew that everybody in that theater had guns he wouldn't have dared to go on a shooting spree.
This is so well researched and put together.
This deserves a documentary release, my dude.
You're the first person to deep dive.
What do you think you mean by "documentary release?" Its a documentary, its released.
@@bugglemagnum6213 in a theater, you goddamn simpleton. If you think docs get as much traction on TH-cam, you are a child.
@@bugglemagnum6213 He means on a major platform like Netflix
@@IknowIamkindagreat dude you’re a 50 year old making TH-cam shorts, calm down old man
@@S7K21 Okay, that was low key funny, I'm not even mad. And I aint made a video in years, but touche', this won. *retires and dies of old age
i was 9 when this shooting happened and i’ve never forgotten about it on the news. although i love going to the movies, this situation alone gave me a huge fear of sitting near any door in a movie theater
I would rather be next to a door, quickest way to get out
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 you’d think that, but i think it’s the fact that he used an exit door to slip back in is what scared me. it kinda feels like i’m playing a roulette when deciding which door to sit next to lol
How were you only 9 wtf? I was 14
You're probably safer near an exit than in the middle of the theater. I'd rather be in the back or in the front near an exit route
Same
I know someone who survived this night. It’s taken years of therapy, and faith, my friend is finally living a life happily. The scars from that night still haunt her though. Many were not so lucky. Their sibling has and still is struggling with sever depression, and substance abuse. Prayers for all involved, both living and laid to rest 🙏 ❤️
I still get anxiety any time I'm in theater because of this monster.
stay strapped
@@PkmKitty Yep. My husband has a CHL. He's always carrying.
@@AnomalyArcadie most places don't allow firearms, even with a ccl. Plus, if your husband was casually watching a movie while shoveling popcorn down his gullet, and I walked up and shot him in the back of the head, it really wouldn't matter what he was carrying.
@Pondo Logo better than a false sense of security. I support the right to own a gun and protect yourself, but a lot of these gun people are delusional. 99% of the time it's not going to save you.
With respect, he had full bulletproof armor on, not just Teflon vests. Even if you had 10 shots off, you would have missed 6 or 7 from that distance to where he was and if you hit him with the other 3 or 4, you wouldn’t have likely drawn blood but pissed him off. I repeat the man had a shotgun, a semi-automatic pistol, a fucking AR-15 rifle and a backup handgun. You stand no chance. 0.
I remember this night very well. My brother was at the theater down the road seeing the same showing. We count our blessings every time we see something about this shooting.
Did he enjoy the movie?
So I guess eff all those people who died "blessings"? You religious folk are a joke
@Aditya Prathap kind of does though. But no self righteous religitard will care to admit it
@Aditya Prathap this is such cope man
This was by far the best doc on this situation. I live in Colorado and so I have followed this closely. Great job!
I suffer from severe social anxiety too. My heart breaks for his mother and the lives he had slain, but James had such a promising life, his erudition and support network... Mental illness is devastating, many people feign 'normality' to avoid being institutionalised.
Funny u watch a video about a mass murderer and wanna talk about yourself. Pathetic.
There's no reason to pretend to be normal. Insurance companies only pay for a week of inpatient mental health care and then they kick you out. The only truely institutionalized people are those in a prison hospital or suicidal people.
It’s sad that nobody turns to God. Usually they feel they’re missing something and to me it’s God. I’m not talking about religion but God himself.
Yup because no religious person has ever committed genocide…. Oh wait…. They are in fact the most prolific practitioners of it in history.
@@sinciti9354
I hope you aren’t referring to Adolf Hitler. He was extremely outspoken on how he wanted to rid the world of religion and direct all attention to the German state.
RIP to all the victims, love from Scotland ❤️🏴🇺🇸
SKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
First and foremost, my condolences and sympathy for all those whom lost their life in this brutal attack. Second, this is a prime example of failure by the system: James Holmes told multiple people about the homicidal thoughts he struggled with, and time and time again people brushed it off. It’s a shame, because I feel with more intervention, maybe even just a brief stay at a psychiatric facility, could have stopped this massacre.
This dude was just evil because he hated himself. I don't buy that he was ill with anything. These people never are ill with anything. They simply just hate themselves, and eventually they take it all out on others in some attempt to relieve themselves of the pain. Really doubt that hapless medicines and a few more days locked away in a hospital prison could have made any difference for him.
I go back and forth with this - she called in another psychologist to assess him, and he also deemed him "okay" to leave. As disgusting as the killer is, he is obviously very intelligent and knew how to manipulate those psychological professionals. However, he specifically openly talked to them about his homicidal idealizations, however I too have kept things close to my chest from psychologist at first before establishing trust, and felt safe.
It's so easy to say what "should/could" have been done after the fact, but thoughts of self harm, or harming others is not as uncommon as people think. The majority of people just know not to act upon those thoughts, and that those thoughts are not your own - they're fleeting.
Not a failure of the system... it was a cunning and methodical plan by a murderer to evade suspicion until he committed the crime he desired.
Psychiatrists are not mind readers. Even though he thought he was telling the doctor at the school what she needed to hear, she didn't seem to be just rubber stamping him and sending him on his way. She brought in a specialist, talked to the people who knew him, attempted to continue seeing him even as a non-student. She can't order involuntary holds willy-nilly and even if she did it's likely he would've done what he needed to do to get through his 72 hours and be released. Perhaps more would've been done if the doctor had talked to the ex-girlfriend, but I bet no one knew she existed or that they had been in recent contact. Should also note that even though he was more candid with the ex, no warning bells went off for her either, and she presumably knew him better than most people. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I'm sure the doctor has enough anguish already with her own woulda, shoulda, couldas
“First you hate yourself, then you hate the world.”
Lived in Colorado my whole life, even today it feels sad to pass by this theater. I was a kid when it happened but somehow I remember what I was doing that day. This definitely has affected us indirectly because my family and I recently went to see a movie and we were super paranoid. We planned our way out in case of a shooting and all. Thankfully nothing happened but it sucks that we have to prepare for the worst.
Yep same here. I live about 30 min away from that theatre. It’s hard not to drive by it and not think about what happened. It affected everyone in our community, somebody around always know someone or themselves that were involved with the shooting that night. It’s wild to think about.
Im amazed youd even go to one after that. Id just buy a projector and stay home lol
When I was living in Aurora, we had a work event to go see a Marvel movie there. I really didn't want to go. Every other movie I watched in Aurora was at Movie Tavern.
Crazy to think that if that hotline call had gone through there would have been no shooting. This dude wanted help but just didn’t find what he needed.
This story is honestly one of the craziest events, in terms of the details and how the crime was performed. It’s a story that sticks to you. As a theater was a always a family friendly place to forget about the world and enjoy another on screen. Now, it feels like every other outing to a theater I get half way through the movie before the thought pops in my head of “what if there is a shooter/ shooting about to happen”. “Where would I go and what would I do”…
holy shit i thought it was just me who feels that way when im in the movies..
Let’s be honest, in today’s America, you aren’t safe anywhere.
Now I wait till there's not a lot of people seeing a movie to go to one, cause I don't feel like anyone's gonna shoot up an empty theater
@@swayde1228 good thinking. that’s why i rarely go anymore. plus movies suck nowadays.
@@swayde1228 that’s how I feel too
It's mad because at, 8:05, he seems like any other kid his age. Very normal, maybe a bit nervous, but overall a likeable guy. I know there are no real signs to someone being a mass-murderer, but that's kinda my point. What makes a kid switch from being a pretty normal, average teenager, to a guy that wants to viciously murder strangers in cold blood. It's as fascinating as it is mind-blowing.
Edit: To the few people that are so desperate to tell me that he's not normal or an average teen because he's slightly awkward or nervous and that they and their friends aren't - calm down there superstars and get a grip of yourselves. It's actually embarrassing and I promise you, you aren't half as "cool" as you think you are. You also totally misunderstood, or purposely misinterpreted, what I was trying to get across in some desperate attempt at getting validation from strangers on the internet.
In fact I can't think of anything dorkier, or misguided, to be honest - it's just sad.
Lots of psychological research has been done on that topic. It's a deep pool, looking into it may forever change your perception. As big of a monster as this guy was, he's not really that different from me and you, even though we might like to pretend he is. Just like any person or group of people who do horrendous things, they are people just like us.
Only a dork coul find this display as "average teen" Definitely strikes me as a shy nervous awkward guy. I guess with this new generation those traits are becoming more and more common though aren't they.
@Terfife TH-cam it says on my account. Anime guy😅 it's just am artists recreation of a catboykami screenshot. Definitely not an anime kiddo. I didn't mean to offend anyone was just my honest observation. ✌
@@تشؤنسخى yeh like all those wierdo killers weren’t around in your time grandpa
@@bigsteppa2116lol I'm in my 20s an the fact your triggered kinda proves my point no?..😅 Besides that's not what I said at all. I think you'll find that ever since MK ultra was set up that's when serial killers in mass started showing up. Alot of famous serial killers had the same phsycs.
I remember this day so clearly. I was 10 at the time and visiting my aunt who lives in Colorado. We went to aurora to pick up some barbacoa from the Mexican supermarket and drove right past the movie theater, just hours before this took place. I even told my mom that I wanted to see the dark night as we drove by. Thank god I was in my very talkative annoying little kid phase and she hit me with “okay” and left it at that. My aunt informed us what happened later that night.
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This video was so well put together that fact you don’t have more subscribers blows my mind you put in so much work and detail in to these so much info in one video keep it up
I was living in Denver at the time and this was the closest theatre and we went to see it that night! Thankfully we decided to go to the burbs instead as our friend lived out there and wanted to go.
Used to go to this theatre with my family and friends growing up, my friend and his parents went to the theatre that night, and the theatre only had 2 tickets left. My friends mom told her husband and son to go in and enjoy the movie, and that she’d go home. They refused, because they all wanted to see the new batman movie together. They only escaped being there that night because the theatre was short one ticket.
This was a phenomenal video, well done. I live only thirty or so minutes away from where this tragedy took place and it's still talked about everywhere. Keep the great content coming
Seems like he was begging to be called out on his bs during his psychiatry sessions. This culminates with his call right before the shooting. I’m not advocating for a sentence for his psychiatrist, but man how did she not flag this guy. Incredibly sad and life changing event for us all.
It could have been a civil suit.
@@cmk5724Absolutely. Dr. Lynne Fenton should have been faced with a civil lawsuit filed by the families of the deceased. The judgment would force Dr. Fenton to cover the cost of the funeral expenses of the deceased.
I remember the day this happened.
The second I saw it was at a movie theater, I knew exactly how he did it.
Me and my group of friends used to send one person in the theater, buy one ticket, then go sit in the front row and nonchalantly stick something in the emergency door so we could all sneak in.
I knew that was exactly what he did somehow. And in the theater all of the ppl have to run towards you to escape.
Oh Jesus, I thought me and my friends were the only ones who did that! It was something that didn't even register to me years ago when this happened. I didn't even think about that for a second. I feel so stupid and sick now.
Do emergency doors when opened not set off an alarm in the US? Places I've worked at in the UK and places where I've been if you open an emergency door it sets off an alarm. So you can't open it without staff/security being alerted.
@@auroraizzy Before this tragedy happened, the doors on both sides of the screens in front of the theater were exit only. You could not enter through them, but they were frequently used to exit into the parking lot whenever a movie was over. When I was a kid, my Dad would always figure out what theater the movie we were seeing would be and park close to that exit door so that we didn't have to walk through the lobby but just right to the car whenever the movie was over. Today those doors are emergency only and an alarm sounds if they are opened.
I honestly had no idea James Holmes as still alive. For some reason I thought he was killed during it all. This story was so tragic but you told it very well and I appreciate you clearing up all these details. Your videos are quite educational and interesting. I pray for the families and am glad James got the maximum penalty for such a horrible crime.
You’re probably remembering Newtown shooter, unclear if he was shot or shot himself vis a vis Final Report Crime scene photos, 911 call, contradicting LE statements, ballistics ect.
I thought he took his own life in the shooting
Hella uninformed and behind the times but it's ok,yes... he is still alive.
How do you not remember that crazy court pic of him
No of course not he’s a white dude in America, /jk but not really
When this terrible night occurred I was in my 3rd week of boot camp. In the morning shortly after waking our division Chief came in and asked the room if anyone lived or had family in Colorado. I raised my hand and was taken with two other recruits in the backroom where we were told the news and location of the attack. My heart dropped to my feet when I heard Batman opening. I knew my brother 16 at the time would have been at a theater that night.
We were given a chance to call home, the first time since getting to boot camp, to check on our families. Luckily, despite being at the midnight opening, my brother was at a different theater. I was the one who broke the news to him in tears when I heard his voice. It was quite unexpected that he would answer the phone instead of my mom or step father.
This event will forever live in my memory. A group of my friends were talking about going to see Dark Knight and didnt invite me. I was upset and mad at them amd went to see it by myself in a different theater. Halfway through the movie my phone just kept vibrating from my mom textimg amd calling me. She didn't say anything, just asking if i was okay. I said I was fine amd that was it. After the movie I walked out amd there's a cop car parked in front of the theater. Mind you, I was at least half an hour away from the Century theater. I get home amd see the news and I start freaking out. My friends were talking about going to Aurora because one of our friends had moved to Aurora and she was talking them into going to a theater up there. I was freaking out until morning when I got the news that they had decided not to go. Craziest 12 hours of my life.
So it's a story about how none of you were actually involved but almost? Thank a lot!
@@Ash-zh5yg thought the same stuff. It’s almost believable but still ends up in „that never happened land“ I kinda hope I’m wrong because it’s sick to get internet clout by lying about mass murder. But we all know there are more sick people out there
@@Ash-zh5ygit’s a lie for internet clout
The saddest part was the fact that a mom with a little baby/toddler had died protecting her baby. She laid over the baby/toddler when he came towards her and shot her. Breaks my heart
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@@RA-eg8tw who laughs at stuff like that though? That's not right
@@RA-eg8tw you wouldn't laugh if it were your own mother. Sicko.
Damn bruh we need you on the fbi list Timmy
Makes me ask, who brings a baby to a midnight release of an action movie?
I watch far too much true crime shit, but I gotta say, your research and presentation is on par or better than most of the big channels on TH-cam.
“Deadbug says “ is a great channel too.
Better than ewu or jcs??
@@dwavyy300 I'm not familiar with ewu but JCS is much more focused on interrogation techniques and criminal psychology than just a straightforward true crime channel.
@@dwavyy300 I’d say better comparisons are channels like LEMMiNO or Nexpo.
@@Daniel-om4ce no one compares to lemmino
"Smiling faces hide the traces of the evil that lurks within".....the most underrated lyric of all time......
Can you dig it?
Who’s lyric
@@kennethabshire9669 the undisputed truth.. or the temptations. I can't remember who did it first but the undisputed truth is the version I know better.
What if you're the only one smiling in the middle of dead bodies? A smile is just as likely to incriminate, just depends on the situation/context
@@kennethabshire9669 Lil Wayne
Imagine talking to a kid who previously expressed homicidal urges, then he suddenly won't talk about them, and you send him on his way
This is the most in depth and most objective analysis of this incident. Thanks Ape Hunch. Usually the media is way too hyperbolic. It’s important right now to understand how this happens.
Movie theaters have always had a different feeling after this
Can we get married
@@Saw-Mc yes. I’ve been waiting
@@Saw-Mc I missed the perfect opportunity to tell you to take me to the movies first
@@DianaEmilia911 😂😂😂 Fucking hell
If you let fear control your life, yea
I remember my friends were too scared to go to movie theaters soon after this happened. I understood them. It's crazy how stuff like this happens when you're shopping, going to school or just trying to enjoy a movie in a theater.
Fck yo friends
Unfortunately I haven't seen many of this creator's videos recently, except I have 'binge watched' three in a row today...
And wow! absolutely brilliant work. So well researched and presented. Plenty of different facts about each case and none of that looping video and the same stuff being repeated over and over again.
He was good before, but he's surpassed himself with recent masterpieces.
Thank you Ape Huncho.
ape huncho is the most accurate crime documenter and news outlet in the UK in my opinion. Im glad to have seen your channel grow and i cant wait for you to get the thousands more views and subs that you deserve
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I stabbed a yute I’m glad
Scar city is another good 1
@@swissbreeze sure you did big man
Foreal most informative there is
I read through his journal for a Final in my psychology class while i was in college, the amount of thought he put into killing people still scares me.
He is a rts player. The type of game that takes brain power and strategy. Maybe this will help explain his thought process
Yea he grew up playing strategy games so yea he went into deep detail everything
He seemed like a normal geeky kid/young man before. The video of him giving a talk is really interesting. He seems normal yet in his own world.
He probably was normal but not normal to people who bullied him
@@flamezodiac5736 Who exactly bullied him?
@@flamezodiac5736 who bullied him
He is pretty normal, Im a pen pal of his. Lol. This video pushes alot...
How tf is he normal
He said he chose that theater over the several theaters closer to his house because of that theaters sign telling patrons that firearms were not permitted. This, obviously, made it less likely he would encounter resistance while attempting mass murder.
This is kind of important