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I'm with you. I'd go with Fields. He's still young. He won't cost a fortune. He can make plays with his arm and his legs. Our o-line sucks and we only have one good receiver. We need a playmaker.
Keep Fields and develop him. He knows the system and I’m sure he’s learned a lot from Wilson already plus he’s young, and agile and can run. He can only get better with the wide receivers and running backs. Just my humble opinion😮
How long are you gonna just keep saying let fields grow? Dudes been in the league for years….if he were a franchise QB you’d see signs of it by now he’s not consistent he’s not gonna take over big games.
Yall are dumb. Fields ain’t it either. Do yall understand a Franchise QB is not hard to spot when they are there….fields has been in the league for years and hasn’t been that great. he’s a great athlete but watching him play the first 5-6 games he popped off one game other than that he was not good lmfao he isn’t accurate either passing
@ listen we don’t need a 35 year old playing hero ball every good team we face. Justin needs to learn how to put touch on passes trowing people open and back should throws. This traits can be taught by any coach. Hears 1 receiver if not open go to 2 then go to 3 Not open check down if covered run. This is what fields needs help at. If I can describe what he needs which isn’t a lot so why would you sign a over the hill Russ instead of Justin
@ I agree !! But where is 50/50 balls get u right ?? Just because he has touch Justin can thrown the deep ball to Atlanta game he did and ppl forget about the throw to Pickens against Denver that got called back fields was on the run and threw a dime !!! Don’t let fields leave
I'll tell you this. A lot of people might not want to hear this, but yes, Tomlin has had a winning season the whole time. He's been in Pittsburgh but that means absolutely nothing if you can't make it to the playoffs. If you can't get to the super bowl which is your ultimate goal so all those winning seasons mean nothing at all. We need to get somebody in here who can take us to the super bowl and change up the offense and defense to where it will be a super bowl. Caliber
100% he 35 Justin 26 is not even close let Russell finish his career in New York or Raiders colts Tennessee New Orleans even not in Pittsburgh he cost us a bye week from the eagles loss to ravens loss and chiefs loss. Can be good competition let him move on he to old
They tried to develop the last 4 QB's after Big Ben by putting them at QB1. Result was a total fail. Aren't we tired of developping QB's by putting them on the field? How about sticking with Wilson for a change and letting Fields develop by watching the vet play, just like Love and others successful QBs did? Not really a novel idea, but clearly a recipe for success.
My 2025 roster assuming gp wants out! Qb1 fields RB1 Warren Wr1 Garrett Wilson (trade) Wr2 Egbuka (draft) Wr3 Austin Wr4 Williams (will be cheap Wr5 probably double dip in the draft ( or Roman Wilson!!?? Hearing someone behind the scenes is not good)
G. Wilson would be a problem with fields as his QB, he wants the ball, fields doesn't throw the ball much. If fields is your QB you can't have a top WR because they'll get frustrated with low production. Wilson wants out of the jets now because of that.
@ they had no problem at Ohio state 😂!!!! I forgot to probably have to give up a 1st rounder so Egbuka would be out of the question unless they trade Gp for Wilson
That’s terrible news if it’s Russ teams have fracnchise QBs for multiple yrs ! If Russel stays then in 2 yrs we are in the same boat ! Fields it is he’s 26 superstar potential!!! Russ can’t keep with with allen mahomes Jackson ! Fields has a better chance to do so with his legs !!! And Warren rb1
Justin Fields is Young. He still can learn. I thought he did very good when he played the first few games of the season, especially compared to when he played for the bears. Give him a chance give him a contract. Russell Wilson is old not getting younger and he has lost a lot
It doesn't matter who you put in the unimaginative unchanging passing and running game you will have same outcome. Coaching makes the difference and Tomlin isn't the best option
@user-yt9ro7md2h all the jets corners were hurt when russ beat them. The ravens had the worst pass defense when russ beat them. The commanders have one of the worst pass defenses and the giants are one of the worst teams so don't do that
Tomlin can’t develop players. It’s clear he knows that and goes with Wilson as the ready made option. Mediocre Mike had success early with circumstances and personnel he inherited. On his own he has done nothing.
@@mycalbrooks8161We are keeping Fields. If he doesn’t then Big Ben and Cam Newton will make fun of him and when arguably a all time QB who has similar style and a ALL TIME QB like Big Ben is laughing at Tomlin. Rooney isn’t going to be too happy
We lose fields this franchise will be a disaster for along time no franchise qb is an organization failure ! I hope Kenny Pickett lights up Dallas today I will laugh
@ I agree no qb1 on roster next yr rb1 no contract ???? And Pickens wants out !!! All of this for nothing not to mention 100 mil defense running around looking like chickens with there head cut off
@ yeah I’m smiling from ear to ear I rocked the Kenny Pickett Steelers jersey today ! I hate how he reacted to the Wilson signing but do you blame him!!??? Fields went 4-2 with a passing rating close to 100! Or 100 and still got benched !! Pickett didn’t stand a chance !!! And played with the worst OC in nfl history
So, The Qb options are Keepimg an aging, Declining Wilson who still has flashes of being a good Qb, Or Fields, And have him developed? By who? Who on this team is going to develop Fields? It doesn't appear the Steelers can develop anyone at any position anymore, Let alone a Qb. its Fields as is, What you've seen is what you get, (Not that its a bad choice) Or Wilson and in a few seasons you can pick in the top 5 or so after the bottom falls completely out, And draft a Qb then. I Would roll with Fields.
honestly, if they keep Wilson (who still clearly has a few more years of good football left him) they should draft drew aller in the 2nd or 3rd round. let him sit for a year or two, or until russ retires. honestly i think with russ's guidence and a good Quarterback coach, arthur smiths offense isn't super hard to run. aller could thrive as long as he has a good team around him, which what quarterback wouldn't. plus aller is built like big ben, he's 6'5, and almost 240 pounds
Tomlin doesn't want any dynamic assistants i don't know if he feels threatened or what but or oc and dc have looked the same for years no matter who they are, wich tells me Tomlin runs everything and doesn't let his assistants run their groups. Bruce ariens was dynamic and he ran him out of town
Big Ben needs to prove he coach -At little league -At High School -At College -In the NFL Big Ben at best was above average @QB Dan Marino is better than Big Ben Not even close
Bro fields cannot pass and did not utilize Pickens. How can u blame Russ when we only have one receiver who can get open?? Yeah fields was 4-2 but one game he did not score a TD and the offence took huge leaps with Russ.Russ is also 6-4 as a starter 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The steelers NEED to sign fields let wilson retire or whatever,but they won't and the will remain pretenders not contenders.The steelers won't be serious contenders until tomlin is gone.for the last 5-7 years tomlin teams fall apart at the end of the season and back into the playoffs, then get blown out in round one
Folks this is utterly immature.RW drove a team to a superbowl. Fields has yet to get even close. That means alot in the long run. Giving up on someone, blaming someone as if it breaks down to one person is utterly immature in pro ball. Reminds me of highschool relationship mentality.
I don’t get it Mike Tomlin must have some kind of deal with Russell Wilson… I watched the bears last year they won 7 games and the coaching cost them 3 games they so bad this year because they not a top rushing offense anymore with fields gone the only reason the bears traded him is because the panthers were so bad and the bears got the first pick of don’t get it I guess Gms and head coaches don’t want to tie their careers to fields.
Steelers need to trade up for a high pick for a young QB in the NFL draft. Give him 1 year to learn under Russell Williams. You need to plan for long term franchise QB. Fields showed Tomlin he isn’t the long term answer. He’s an adequate backup because of his legs. He had opportunities in Chicago & Pgh.
If you go with Justin Fields, you're counting on him to develop touch and anticipation. What has he shown you in 4 years that makes you think he can do that. There are plenty of examples of QBs who could throw the ball through a brick wall but never developed. With Russell Wilson and a couple more receiver weapons the Steelers can contend for a super bowl. It would help if he took a team friendly deal and he might because he seems to be at the stage where he's more concerned about legacy than the money. He'd be a bargain at 4 years for 25, 30, 35 and 40 million with the first 60 million guaranteed. You would be singing a different tune this year if we had gotten DeAndre Hopkins or Courtney Sutton.
He used touch and arc in college. I'm not sure why people keep saying that he can't do that. He was doing that in college. He has those skills. It seems like people are just parroting whatever narratives they hear from others.
You have to count on what team coached him first. If Fields came to the Steelers in 2021 he would have learned from Big Ben and would be up there with Mahomes. He was coached by the Bears. That doesn’t add up good. I say he is worth keeping for 3 years and if he doesn’t have a Wild card win or gets blown out a lot then yea we can trade him. Rn he looked solid. Sure not the best passer but thats why we keep him for 3 maybe 4 years because then what we could do is draft a once in a decade QB. Just think of it 2017 and 2018 Allen and Mahomes, I think Lamar too. 4 years prior was Russell Wilson (Prime). If we are lucky we can get our hands on this chain of luck. Possibly every 4 years a Elite QB comes through. 4 years after 2017 Fields came but got unlucky. Maybe this is his team and we can unlock an Elite QB out of him by 2026. If not we look at 2028-2030 Draft and draft a QB. Yes Im hoping that every 4 years an elite QB comes through
@@cr2liveseven in the nfl go look at his highlights it’s dozens of throws with touch different angles now anticipating he needs a lot of work but that’s ok
Seattle’s past is Steelers future? I’m a long long time Steeler fan but I have had enough of this teams move from greatness to love for mediocrity. Y’all can have them if they keep Russ. We are not going to win a Super Bowl with this coach and QB. Period.
No QB will be successful in Pittsburgh without a decent offensive line, not even JF and your running game will stall. You can't depend on one WR and if GP is not getting the ball enough he's gonna start crying and wanna go home. Guys tackle like they playing pee wee football or are afraid of the hit and being hurt. The reason they pay the defense so much money is because they know they won't win a SB the the money compensates their time in Pittsburgh.
You all need to watch some of Fields Bears highlights, he won games with no team no OL or DL. He almost beat the Steelers in 2021 go watch the highlights from that game ref took a td away because of a taunting penalty. He beat Russell against the Broncos in passes, he beat the Lions last year. You all don't know what you have in Fields.
Life long stealers fan here, first I believe we should sign JF2 to a long term deal and bring in Greg Roman to develop him the same way he did Lamar Jackson. We need to fight fire with fire
Fields, Fields, Fields, all day long, he's a great QB he's a starter QB and he's young, he was balling early in the season, probably be a decent price, and we need money for the OL again or it needs to develop
I agree with you we need to keep both for the back you got to make enough cash room and I think we're going to be able to do all that but we're going to lose the number one wide receiver this year I have a good feeling that it's going to work out for us
We have to ask if either one is a long term solution. Look at the amount of points Fields put up. Wilson has struggled at the end of the season. Sam Donald more of a bridge QB. We have to ask: are we interested in Jalen, Garrett, or Dillion Gabrielle? If not, we have to look at stacking up on some draft capital this year: trade away Cam Heyward, George Pickens, Najee Harris (resign and trade away) for picks. Do a trade back into the second round. Then, get a qb at pick 1. Yes, I understand we maybe giving away two 1sts and a 2nd, but we have not lost a year to be in top 5.
It was Justin's first year in a competent organization and he did good. I think Pittsbugh should try to retain unless they discover a youthful talent. We will see what Russ can do for us this year, but if we cant win a playoff game with him, why keep him?
Pittsburgh needs this Pittsburgh needs this Pittsburgh needs that Pittsburgh needs this.. neither one of you have ever played a down a professional football in your life, but you swear you know what Pittsburgh needs to do… you know what they say about opinions
I think tomlin is an amazing coach and probably top 15-20 of all time in the nfl. I also believe his need to win now mentality and preserving the winning season record and micromanaging coaches are his 3 biggest flaws. Tomlin needs to practice what he preaches and not live in his fears of another coach in the organization will take his job. IE bruce arians and B Flo
Cam Newton was an elite QB and a contemporary of Wilson. Cam seems a little resentful of QBs from his era that managed to have longevity that eluded Newton after injuries beset him
With this three-game losing streak, I think maybe they should give Justin Fields a chance again. Russell Wilson has not been at his best for sure, but neither has the defense or offensive line
Really? Do you guys not remember how JF could not find open WRs staring him in the face? If that can somehow be trained into JF, then I'm on board, but he has never shown that in 5+ years. The problem for Russ is lack of weapons and proper outlets when the pocket collapses (bad schemes). Maybe true for JF as well. JF needs to explore the VR tools that Jaylen is using over in Washington. I would love it if JF could figure out his passing game!
Steelers should start over, with all do respect to MT, they should let him go, and bring one of these young coaches that know Xs & Os, and fix our secondary and load up on OL and DL, Tomlin stays we will again be around 9-10 wins.
Russ is not the problem. Coaching, o line, and recievers are bigger ones. It doesnt matter who is at quarterback if no one can block for them. Grasp the fact that Jerome Bettis was 100 lbs heavier yet was quicker than najee harris. Everyone forgets mitch trubisky led the 2018 bears to a 12-4 record and first playoff birth in 8 years. Theres a fundamental qb coaching problem in pittsburgh and that falls more on tomlin than anyone else.
Maybe Wilson would entertain going back to Seattle. New coach there probably knows why he wanted out of Seattle. I'm thinking that he'll get what the old coach wouldn't give him. It's all about offensive line and no good protection from injuries.
Russ was never brought over to play hero ball he was supposed to be a game manager but unfortunately the defense hasn’t held up their side of the bargain. Justin fields is extremely inaccurate that’s why he got benched
The Steelers will continue to be a "just starting to figure this thing out" offense as long as Tomlin is the head coach. He has NO idea how to develop an offense or even find and allow a competent OC to run things sensibly. Hell, Teryl Austin is proving that Tomlin - the defensive-minded head coach - can't even pick a good defensive coordinator, or if rumors are true, can't call a better defensive game plan than the DC he's supposedly back-burnered.
As much as I like Fields, I'm coming to the conclusion that he is probably better off going to a team who can develop him. I don't believe the Steelers have that kind of coaching staff.
I will keep Justin fields and try to keep Russell and let them fight it out. But you are right Russell is 36 Justin is 26 and Justin could takeoff with that ball and give you 60 yards no problem. He is like a Ferrari.😮
I agree that Justin needs a shot. But he has to develop his passing. He can sling a ball with velocity but doesn’t have any touch passes in his toolbox yet. If he’s working on those things and can make all the throws then Why not?
I AM PRETTY SURE I SAID THAT..THE DAY WILSON TOOK THE FIELD…WHEN THIS 81 YEAR OLD, STEELER FAN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF STEELERS…I CAN CALL EVERY PLAY FROM MY COUCH…I’VE MADE UP MY MIND…I WON’T BE WATCHING PITT AND BENGALS GAME!! YOUR LATE MY FRIEND..THAT SPEECH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPOKEN THE MINUTE WILSON TOOK THE FIELD!
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I love russ and fields both, they both have their own pros and cons. But i really think the Steelers need to keep fields.
@@trapstarchuck JF is gone. You all treated him like crap. Why would he want to stay?
I'm with you. I'd go with Fields. He's still young. He won't cost a fortune. He can make plays with his arm and his legs. Our o-line sucks and we only have one good receiver. We need a playmaker.
Russ running, pocket presence, scares me more than Fields throwing issues...I think the team (players) want Fields to play!
We don't have the offensive coaches to put him in good situations. Nothing new will happen till the coaching staff changes.
@@TheCrumpers53Fields is the better option for Smith’s playbook. He is good at scrambling so his ability to run better than our RBs can be helpful
Fields needs to start!Now,Russ makes us weak
Fields are gone! With only two good QB prospects in the draft, competition for free agent prospects will be deep. Jets, Browns, Raiders, Saints.
Keep Fields and develop him. He knows the system and I’m sure he’s learned a lot from Wilson already plus he’s young, and agile and can run. He can only get better with the wide receivers and running backs. Just my humble opinion😮
Fields should have been underfeated if not for a bad snap and defense giving up a 4th down touch down
pickens fumbling when he was going in for a TD. Pickens not running proper routs also.
I just hate the thought of letting Fields go. I know he has a lot of growing to do but....
How long are you gonna just keep saying let fields grow? Dudes been in the league for years….if he were a franchise QB you’d see signs of it by now he’s not consistent he’s not gonna take over big games.
@@Russellww4you definitely see signs with fields only problem is consistency
Who is going to grow him?… Our coaching staff can’t do it.
@@Heasley_Highlights Our coaching staff sucks and the Rooney's need to figure it out
@@Russellww4 these yinzers are crazy lol
Fields all in for 2025
Hell yeah I’m all in on fields since day 1 give the guy a chance ! Loved him at Ohio state to
Yall are dumb. Fields ain’t it either. Do yall understand a Franchise QB is not hard to spot when they are there….fields has been in the league for years and hasn’t been that great. he’s a great athlete but watching him play the first 5-6 games he popped off one game other than that he was not good lmfao he isn’t accurate either passing
@ listen we don’t need a 35 year old playing hero ball every good team we face. Justin needs to learn how to put touch on passes trowing people open and back should throws. This traits can be taught by any coach. Hears 1 receiver if not open go to 2 then go to 3 Not open check down if covered run. This is what fields needs help at. If I can describe what he needs which isn’t a lot so why would you sign a over the hill Russ instead of Justin
He sucks
@ I agree !! But where is 50/50 balls get u right ?? Just because he has touch Justin can thrown the deep ball to Atlanta game he did and ppl forget about the throw to Pickens against Denver that got called back fields was on the run and threw a dime !!! Don’t let fields leave
Fields is the future!
I'll tell you this. A lot of people might not want to hear this, but yes, Tomlin has had a winning season the whole time. He's been in Pittsburgh but that means absolutely nothing if you can't make it to the playoffs. If you can't get to the super bowl which is your ultimate goal so all those winning seasons mean nothing at all. We need to get somebody in here who can take us to the super bowl and change up the offense and defense to where it will be a super bowl. Caliber
We will never win another Super Bowl. I mean never. It’s not in the plans with NFL. As long as Mahomes is in the league it never will be.
Lol. They ain’t even in playoff with JF
I like the new Nick No-hat-sky. Nice locks bro. Also FIELDS PLEASE!
They Steelers will be set back year if they sign Russell Wilson instead of 26 year old quarterback instead of 35 in Wilson
,💯 correct
I don't think Mike Tomlin makes good decision
Justin fields should have been underfeated
100% he 35 Justin 26 is not even close let Russell finish his career in New York or Raiders colts Tennessee New Orleans even not in Pittsburgh he cost us a bye week from the eagles loss to ravens loss and chiefs loss. Can be good competition let him move on he to old
Justin Fields needs to start. Russ is clearly not cut out for the playoffs
Yes Justin Fields is Ready
@RaymondMckenzie-sr4ks never said he was but he played better when he started so he at least deserves a shot
Lol Fields has never even made the playoffs
@justinbabin209 tell Fields to play eagles Ravans and kc in 11 days and they still lose all 3
@terze2226 not getting a single win is exactly why Russ never should have been a Steeler. Cry about it
Keep Fields not Wilson. You can develop those youg less in the pocket and out.
They tried to develop the last 4 QB's after Big Ben by putting them at QB1. Result was a total fail. Aren't we tired of developping QB's by putting them on the field? How about sticking with Wilson for a change and letting Fields develop by watching the vet play, just like Love and others successful QBs did? Not really a novel idea, but clearly a recipe for success.
One of the biggest rules in the nfl you never take the old vet over the young talent
Russ is a SuperBowl QB but our line is an elementary grade school line
My 2025 roster assuming gp wants out!
Qb1 fields
RB1 Warren
Wr1 Garrett Wilson (trade)
Wr2 Egbuka (draft)
Wr3 Austin
Wr4 Williams (will be cheap
Wr5 probably double dip in the draft ( or Roman Wilson!!?? Hearing someone behind the scenes is not good)
G. Wilson would be a problem with fields as his QB, he wants the ball, fields doesn't throw the ball much. If fields is your QB you can't have a top WR because they'll get frustrated with low production. Wilson wants out of the jets now because of that.
@ they had no problem at Ohio state 😂!!!! I forgot to probably have to give up a 1st rounder so Egbuka would be out of the question unless they trade Gp for Wilson
Fields, Warren, Higgins, Addison, Muth, Austin. Draft a RB 2 and secure our DE's.
@ shit you got me lol love Addison !!! And I would shit myself if we stole higgens off of cincy
I like it! Trade toxic 14 out of here and build an improved WR room. Tee Higgins could be the FA target for one of the WR spots.
Fields should have stayed the starter team Fields
That’s terrible news if it’s Russ teams have fracnchise QBs for multiple yrs ! If Russel stays then in 2 yrs we are in the same boat ! Fields it is he’s 26 superstar potential!!! Russ can’t keep with with allen mahomes Jackson ! Fields has a better chance to do so with his legs !!! And Warren rb1
Justin Fields is Young. He still can learn. I thought he did very good when he played the first few games of the season, especially compared to when he played for the bears. Give him a chance give him a contract. Russell Wilson is old not getting younger and he has lost a lot
It doesn't matter who you put in the unimaginative unchanging passing and running game you will have same outcome. Coaching makes the difference and Tomlin isn't the best option
Get rid of Tomlin instead of fields
Play Fields...Russ cannot beat the great teams
@@Danoie67fields can’t beat a back up defense of one of the worst teams in the league this year lol
@user-yt9ro7md2h all the jets corners were hurt when russ beat them. The ravens had the worst pass defense when russ beat them. The commanders have one of the worst pass defenses and the giants are one of the worst teams so don't do that
Tomlin gonna be there for the next 4 years thanks to his contract extension
What hell is with Tomlin and not liking Fields instead of Russ is 35 fields is 26 hello we play to win the game. Not Wilson as ban aid
He has to actually coach with fields
Tomlin can’t develop players. It’s clear he knows that and goes with Wilson as the ready made option. Mediocre Mike had success early with circumstances and personnel he inherited. On his own he has done nothing.
@@mycalbrooks8161We are keeping Fields. If he doesn’t then Big Ben and Cam Newton will make fun of him and when arguably a all time QB who has similar style and a ALL TIME QB like Big Ben is laughing at Tomlin. Rooney isn’t going to be too happy
I can see MT passing on Justin Fields in order to keep Russ. He let Flores walk off to Minnesota in order to keep Austin. SMFH!!
Maybe Tomlin was afraid Flores would take Tomlin job.
We lose fields this franchise will be a disaster for along time no franchise qb is an organization failure ! I hope Kenny Pickett lights up Dallas today I will laugh
It's already a disaster
@ I agree no qb1 on roster next yr rb1 no contract ???? And Pickens wants out !!! All of this for nothing not to mention 100 mil defense running around looking like chickens with there head cut off
Bro pickett did just that
@ yeah I’m smiling from ear to ear I rocked the Kenny Pickett Steelers jersey today ! I hate how he reacted to the Wilson signing but do you blame him!!??? Fields went 4-2 with a passing rating close to 100! Or 100 and still got benched !! Pickett didn’t stand a chance !!! And played with the worst OC in nfl history
So, The Qb options are Keepimg an aging, Declining Wilson who still has flashes of being a good Qb, Or Fields, And have him developed? By who? Who on this team is going to develop Fields? It doesn't appear the Steelers can develop anyone at any position anymore, Let alone a Qb.
its Fields as is, What you've seen is what you get, (Not that its a bad choice) Or Wilson and in a few seasons you can pick in the top 5 or so after the bottom falls completely out, And draft a Qb then. I Would roll with Fields.
honestly, if they keep Wilson (who still clearly has a few more years of good football left him) they should draft drew aller in the 2nd or 3rd round. let him sit for a year or two, or until russ retires. honestly i think with russ's guidence and a good Quarterback coach, arthur smiths offense isn't super hard to run. aller could thrive as long as he has a good team around him, which what quarterback wouldn't. plus aller is built like big ben, he's 6'5, and almost 240 pounds
Allar is going back to PSU, sadly. I'd love to see the Steelers get him. I'm a PSU and Steeler fan. He's definitely gonna be good.
@@coltoncopenhaver94 fine by me, they can draft him next year
Tomlin doesn't want any dynamic assistants i don't know if he feels threatened or what but or oc and dc have looked the same for years no matter who they are, wich tells me Tomlin runs everything and doesn't let his assistants run their groups. Bruce ariens was dynamic and he ran him out of town
And Dick LeBeau. We have not had coordinators anywhere near their caliber since.
Is there any chance the keep russ and fields next season..I think it would be good to develop fields for the future
Yea there is talks in the Steelers about keeping both but if Russ loses a wild card Fields will come back
Trade Tomlin get some draft pics
Big Ben for head coach
Start out smaller...QB COACH!!! And eventually OC...💯✌️
Big Ben needs to prove he coach
-At little league
-At High School
-At College
-In the NFL
Big Ben at best was above average @QB
Dan Marino is better than Big Ben
Not even close
@@brianwhite3428He's one of the greatest ever to do it. His resume speaks for himself. First ballot hall of famer.
One of those guys won super bowls. @brianwhite3428
Bro fields cannot pass and did not utilize Pickens. How can u blame Russ when we only have one receiver who can get open?? Yeah fields was 4-2 but one game he did not score a TD and the offence took huge leaps with Russ.Russ is also 6-4 as a starter 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Because Pittsburgh is a bunch of failures right now.
They haven't made a good decision for quite some time.
All that is on Mike Tomlin.
The steelers NEED to sign fields let wilson retire or whatever,but they won't and the will remain pretenders not contenders.The steelers won't be serious contenders until tomlin is gone.for the last 5-7 years tomlin teams fall apart at the end of the season and back into the playoffs, then get blown out in round one
Our offensive line doesn't fit Russ's style. He needs more time to make deep throws.
I don’t understand how this isn’t everyone’s take. Well said.
The trap game . justin sparked the offences to lead to get the TD in the 4th qtr lest not forget
Folks this is utterly immature.RW drove a team to a superbowl. Fields has yet to get even close. That means alot in the long run. Giving up on someone, blaming someone as if it breaks down to one person is utterly immature in pro ball. Reminds me of highschool relationship mentality.
Steelers need to keep their quarterbacks and work on the offense and running game and get better players in the draft
I don’t get it Mike Tomlin must have some kind of deal with Russell Wilson… I watched the bears last year they won 7 games and the coaching cost them 3 games they so bad this year because they not a top rushing offense anymore with fields gone the only reason the bears traded him is because the panthers were so bad and the bears got the first pick of don’t get it I guess Gms and head coaches don’t want to tie their careers to fields.
I like fields and i hope he stays but im not going to pretend. The offense wasnt better with fields. It could be but it was not this year
Is arthur Smith going to change offense for the playoffs playing possum for the last month?
Steelers need to trade up for a high pick for a young QB in the NFL draft. Give him 1 year to learn under Russell Williams. You need to plan for long term franchise QB. Fields showed Tomlin he isn’t the long term answer. He’s an adequate backup because of his legs. He had opportunities in Chicago & Pgh.
If you go with Justin Fields, you're counting on him to develop touch and anticipation. What has he shown you in 4 years that makes you think he can do that. There are plenty of examples of QBs who could throw the ball through a brick wall but never developed. With Russell Wilson and a couple more receiver weapons the Steelers can contend for a super bowl. It would help if he took a team friendly deal and he might because he seems to be at the stage where he's more concerned about legacy than the money. He'd be a bargain at 4 years for 25, 30, 35 and 40 million with the first 60 million guaranteed. You would be singing a different tune this year if we had gotten DeAndre Hopkins or Courtney Sutton.
He used touch and arc in college. I'm not sure why people keep saying that he can't do that. He was doing that in college. He has those skills.
It seems like people are just parroting whatever narratives they hear from others.
You have to count on what team coached him first. If Fields came to the Steelers in 2021 he would have learned from Big Ben and would be up there with Mahomes. He was coached by the Bears. That doesn’t add up good. I say he is worth keeping for 3 years and if he doesn’t have a Wild card win or gets blown out a lot then yea we can trade him. Rn he looked solid. Sure not the best passer but thats why we keep him for 3 maybe 4 years because then what we could do is draft a once in a decade QB. Just think of it 2017 and 2018 Allen and Mahomes, I think Lamar too. 4 years prior was Russell Wilson (Prime). If we are lucky we can get our hands on this chain of luck. Possibly every 4 years a Elite QB comes through. 4 years after 2017 Fields came but got unlucky. Maybe this is his team and we can unlock an Elite QB out of him by 2026. If not we look at 2028-2030 Draft and draft a QB. Yes Im hoping that every 4 years an elite QB comes through
@@cr2liveseven in the nfl go look at his highlights it’s dozens of throws with touch different angles now anticipating he needs a lot of work but that’s ok
Me and my wife was at that game and I seen Patrick Mahomes give the ref money and I read his lips and he said don’t worry about it. I have your back.
They cheated us big time
The offense isn’t the problem it’s the defense and has been for 15 years.
Did anyone notice Kinney Pickett looked good today and Sam Darnold has been looking good all season.....just an observation 😅
Feilds has been learning for 4years and has not got better he shows flashes then shits the bed
Why do you think Fields would develop? We have no coaching talent. We need new leadership or we need to acquire ready made free agents.
In the playoffs... you need a gun=slinging quarterback... and that is the elephant in the room... as we all know...!!!
Seattle’s past is Steelers future? I’m a long long time Steeler fan but I have had enough of this teams move from greatness to love for mediocrity. Y’all can have them if they keep Russ. We are not going to win a Super Bowl with this coach and QB. Period.
No QB will be successful in Pittsburgh without a decent offensive line, not even JF and your running game will stall. You can't depend on one WR and if GP is not getting the ball enough he's gonna start crying and wanna go home. Guys tackle like they playing pee wee football or are afraid of the hit and being hurt. The reason they pay the defense so much money is because they know they won't win a SB the the money compensates their time in Pittsburgh.
As long as Mike Tomlin is coach, we will not win another Super Bowl
That's because he doesn't have a bill cowher team.
You get Russell a line that can protect him he can light it up. That's why.
Why is Kyle Allen not getting looked at?
100%
Because he isn’t a QB that can even compete with Pickett
Thats what folks thought about Rudolph and come to find out Mason was the best quarterback on thteam the last 2 years😅@@theopportunityforgaming_yt
You all need to watch some of Fields Bears highlights, he won games with no team no OL or DL. He almost beat the Steelers in 2021 go watch the highlights from that game ref took a td away because of a taunting penalty. He beat Russell against the Broncos in passes, he beat the Lions last year. You all don't know what you have in Fields.
BRO THATS WHAT IM SAYING HE ALMOST BEAT THE EAGLES THAT WERE UNSTOPPABLE
We just played the toughest defenses in the league in 11 days without GP….everone needs to relax we are fine
Life long stealers fan here, first I believe we should sign JF2 to a long term deal and bring in Greg Roman to develop him the same way he did Lamar Jackson. We need to fight fire with fire
Fields, Fields, Fields, all day long, he's a great QB he's a starter QB and he's young, he was balling early in the season, probably be a decent price, and we need money for the OL again or it needs to develop
Our O line and CB’s are horrible
I agree with you we need to keep both for the back you got to make enough cash room and I think we're going to be able to do all that but we're going to lose the number one wide receiver this year I have a good feeling that it's going to work out for us
If this 2024 Steelers team had Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, or Doug Williams, this team would win the Superbowl next year as well.
We have to ask if either one is a long term solution. Look at the amount of points Fields put up. Wilson has struggled at the end of the season. Sam Donald more of a bridge QB. We have to ask: are we interested in Jalen, Garrett, or Dillion Gabrielle?
If not, we have to look at stacking up on some draft capital this year: trade away Cam Heyward, George Pickens, Najee Harris (resign and trade away) for picks. Do a trade back into the second round. Then, get a qb at pick 1. Yes, I understand we maybe giving away two 1sts and a 2nd, but we have not lost a year to be in top 5.
It was Justin's first year in a competent organization and he did good. I think Pittsbugh should try to retain unless they discover a youthful talent. We will see what Russ can do for us this year, but if we cant win a playoff game with him, why keep him?
Pittsburgh needs this Pittsburgh needs this Pittsburgh needs that Pittsburgh needs this.. neither one of you have ever played a down a professional football in your life, but you swear you know what Pittsburgh needs to do… you know what they say about opinions
Fields should be our future. The kid has talent, and is a decade younger than Russ.
I think the Steelers should not sign Pickens and instead sign Higgens, he is a bit injury prone but very mature and good.
I think tomlin is an amazing coach and probably top 15-20 of all time in the nfl. I also believe his need to win now mentality and preserving the winning season record and micromanaging coaches are his 3 biggest flaws. Tomlin needs to practice what he preaches and not live in his fears of another coach in the organization will take his job. IE bruce arians and B Flo
Cam Newton was an elite QB and a contemporary of Wilson. Cam seems a little resentful of QBs from his era that managed to have longevity that eluded Newton after injuries beset him
With this three-game losing streak, I think maybe they should give Justin Fields a chance again. Russell Wilson has not been at his best for sure, but neither has the defense or offensive line
Russ Wilson is absolute ****.
Go with fields❤❤😊😊
We have a crap wide receiver room! Pickens is all we have 🥳
Russ can help Fields to develop, I hope they bring both back next year
Really? Do you guys not remember how JF could not find open WRs staring him in the face? If that can somehow be trained into JF, then I'm on board, but he has never shown that in 5+ years. The problem for Russ is lack of weapons and proper outlets when the pocket collapses (bad schemes). Maybe true for JF as well. JF needs to explore the VR tools that Jaylen is using over in Washington. I would love it if JF could figure out his passing game!
It is clear that the next qb should be: kenny pickett. 41 points with a real coach and team behind him!
Kenny Picket taking care of business today for the Eagles. That little jerk may get a ring this year. 24-7 at the half.
The first order of business during the off-season is to give Tomlin the 🪓, then move forward with a new coaching staff!😊
Steelers should start over, with all do respect to MT, they should let him go, and bring one of these young coaches that know Xs & Os, and fix our secondary and load up on OL and DL, Tomlin stays we will again be around 9-10 wins.
Russ is not the problem. Coaching, o line, and recievers are bigger ones. It doesnt matter who is at quarterback if no one can block for them. Grasp the fact that Jerome Bettis was 100 lbs heavier yet was quicker than najee harris. Everyone forgets mitch trubisky led the 2018 bears to a 12-4 record and first playoff birth in 8 years. Theres a fundamental qb coaching problem in pittsburgh and that falls more on tomlin than anyone else.
Maybe Wilson would entertain going back to Seattle. New coach there probably knows why he wanted out of Seattle. I'm thinking that he'll get what the old coach wouldn't give him.
It's all about offensive line and no good protection from injuries.
😢Rooney will never let Tomlinson go😢😢
Russ was never brought over to play hero ball he was supposed to be a game manager but unfortunately the defense hasn’t held up their side of the bargain. Justin fields is extremely inaccurate that’s why he got benched
Justin has a higher completion percentage for passes at 20+ yards when compared to Russ for this season.
This is what ownership wanted. They made it clear to Tomlin that they wanted to win now. Developing and offense would win now?
The Steelers will continue to be a "just starting to figure this thing out" offense as long as Tomlin is the head coach. He has NO idea how to develop an offense or even find and allow a competent OC to run things sensibly. Hell, Teryl Austin is proving that Tomlin - the defensive-minded head coach - can't even pick a good defensive coordinator, or if rumors are true, can't call a better defensive game plan than the DC he's supposedly back-burnered.
As much as I like Fields, I'm coming to the conclusion that he is probably better off going to a team who can develop him. I don't believe the Steelers have that kind of coaching staff.
Fields is the future... Keep Russ if he takes a huge pay cut
I will keep Justin fields and try to keep Russell and let them fight it out. But you are right Russell is 36 Justin is 26 and Justin could takeoff with that ball and give you 60 yards no problem. He is like a Ferrari.😮
Maybe Wilson will be affordable and they work with both qb’s and bring them back? Could be a good situation for all involved.
It’s always been about the defense, they have a gap in it guys!
I agree that Justin needs a shot. But he has to develop his passing. He can sling a ball with velocity but doesn’t have any touch passes in his toolbox yet. If he’s working on those things and can make all the throws then Why not?
400 yards and? And you would NOT consider Wilson? Foolish.
Line can’t give backs to run, line can’t hold, plus Wilson holds on to ball tooooooooo long.
We need a #2 wr.
I AM PRETTY SURE I SAID THAT..THE DAY WILSON TOOK THE FIELD…WHEN THIS 81 YEAR OLD, STEELER FAN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF STEELERS…I CAN CALL EVERY PLAY FROM MY COUCH…I’VE MADE UP MY MIND…I WON’T BE WATCHING PITT AND BENGALS GAME!! YOUR LATE MY FRIEND..THAT SPEECH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPOKEN THE MINUTE WILSON TOOK THE FIELD!
Offensive line is fine, it’s the coaches. Tomlin has 0 coaching tree in 18 yrs.
Remember the Chicago Experience Noah!!!!
Some body need to wake up the steelers
Russ will be a disaster next year.
If he’s the future heaven help us❤❤😊😊
They need better coaches all across the board, Mike T may only be the best option out there next year
Fields is the future