As your niece I just want to say we love you so much and accept you just as you are! Don't worry or feel like you need to be embarrassed about anything that happened! Grandma is hilarious she loves kevin the most outta all her kid's spouses! She is very opinionated tho! We are so happy and proud that you are strong enough to strive after all of that! Gay uncle pride🦄🌈❤🧡💛💚💙💜 BTW this is casey
Thank you Casey. I know Kevin and I are loved by you all just like we love you. It is so wonderful to be in a family that love us for us. We all need to remember love is love.
Hi Everyone, we had someone who left a comment and then deleted it before we could respond. This person was worried about some very real danger to them if they ever came out and wondered if it made them coward to stay in the closet out of fear of this danger. Our belief is that NO, you are not being a coward. We believe that you will know when it's the right time to come out because you will experience a sense of peace about it even though there may still be some danger in doing so. We know this can be very hard to do but please do not think badly of yourself if it's not your time. You will know when it's your time. Much love to all - stay safe.
I’m single and 60 this year. Never officially came out to my Mum and Dad, but I have a recognition that they knew. Comments like’ David is different’ . I had a great relationship with both of them and nursed both of them until they died, Dad 30 years ago and Mum 3 years. Grew up in a non accepting church. Miss them terribly but I rely on the great memories I have
David it sounds like you had great parents. You know some times it is just an unspoken conversation. I know after I told my mom that I was gay she said she already know and that she was just waiting for me to say it. I have know doubt your Mum and Dad would have loved you no matter what.
Do I ever know the feeling. Coming out at 30 after 10 years of marriage and my daughter being in the picture. I did not get the 'Gay Community' in San Diego. I wanted the same little home with the white picket fence, but with a man. That is not the 'Gay Scene'. It took many years to finally find that, but I did. I had ten wonderful years. You guys are so lucky and yes, it was so worth it! Bless you both!
I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through the same things pretty much. I hope you have a good relationship with your daughter. But I am glad that you got that white picket fence. That is the blessing in this coming out video to hear from wonderful people like you and to help other men in there journey.
Beautifully expressed. Older gay people have known a very different world than younger gays, so it’s critical that you speak up before the history of cruelty against fellow humans is lost forever. We must never forget because it can happen again. Also, we may be hurting other people in the ways we were once hurt. So keep telling your powerful story of “the love that dare not speak its name.”
I hope and pray that the world is changing for the better for all people. But I do think it is great when you see the younger kids or young adults come out to their families and friends are totally on board. How great could our world be if everyone could just do what God wants us to do. LOVE
SO many similarities between you and me, Rich. Was married for 25 years to a woman. I came out to her, tried conversion therapy, because even then I still believed I didn't want to be gay--that it was a sin. Obviously it didn't take. Haha. I get along fine with my ex-wife now. Our two sons are totally accepting of me and we all get along well. I have 5 grandkids. My ex has remarried. I am still single. Thank you for sharing this! We are not alone, are we!
You are a very sincere person and I'm glad things worked out for you. I am 66, married for 37 years, with 4 grown children and one grandchild. I came out as bi-sexual about a month ago to my wife, children and two best friends. My marriage has been rocky for years and I finally got up the courage to come out to my wife, not knowing what the end result would be, but I wanted to shoulder my portion of the blame for our marriage problems. She is very civil and understanding, but she felt like I had deceived her and said that she would never had married me had she known and that I disappointed her as a liar. I want her to seek counseling for her own good, but refused. Our grown kids and my friends are extremely accepting, but I have extreme guilt for what I did---even though I loved my wife and she was never a "cover wife". She does want a divorce and truly I think we would be happier apart. It is hard, but like Rich said, you think you have it under control, but you don't. I could never fully give my wife all she wanted or deserved. We are both grateful for our children and will hopefully be able celebrate birthdays and special occasions all together. It is liberating for the first time in my life, tho, to be the real me.
Thank you very much Robert. Sounds like our stories have some similarities. I am glad you have a good relationship with your family. My ex wife still refuses to speak to me to this day, and she will not move on and it's been nearly 10 years since she told me to leave.
Hi Rich. I'm Marcus from Brazil. I'm 53 years old, have two sons (17 and 22), and i lived a very, very similar story to yours. I came out when i was 36, and that was so hard that i got depressed and took medicine for about one year. But, the storm went gone, thanks God! As you, i'm from a very religious family, and at the beginning, they believed they need to save my soul. My ex wife, asked me to stop seeing my sons, which changed for about two months later... Now i'm a great friend of may ex wife, love her and my relation with my two sons and family is full of love and acceptance. Every thing is normal, besides i know that my mother still wish secretly that a went back to my ex wife (my mother is 90, and i guess she has done her best, and went till the point, only real love, could have guided her to). Please forgive if i made some mistakes, writing in english. Congratulations for expressing so beautifully your coming out story. Wish you both a life full of joy and happiness!
Thank you for replying. I’m happy for your outcome. I thought in my mind at the start that my ex wife and I would be able to stay friends and I would continue to be part of there lives on a daily basis. We on text and that is about it. I will always keep that door open. Are you with anyone. I don’t know if you have Instagram but you can join our Instagram friends. Marriedlifeofrichandkevin. Keep in touch.
As your niece I am so proud of who you are and how your story has turned out this is Tara and I’m so happy that your very happy and know your very loved by your whole family much love from me and Jason Isabella Grayson Sean and austin we love you uncle rich and uncle Kevin
I just discovered your channel (Rich and Kevin) this afternoon. I am VERY impressed with your emotional honesty. Absolutely no need to apologize for your tears. I read once that tears come from the heart.....
Thank you. Yes the tears come from two places. The heartbreak of hurting the love ones and the happiness of my life now. It is so awesome that the love I have been getting from you all.
beautiful video. My partner who is in his late 60's came out earlier this month. I know the courage it takes to tell others who you really are. All the best.
Bless you for telling your truth. You didn't deserve to have to cross that minefield from that tender age of innocence just to be who God created and to love your husband and family honestly. Stay vigilant to protect the safe space in society you've carved out, and bless you for acknowledging the fight we your elders fought for suffering like yours to be a thing of the ignorant past.
What a difficult process for you, and my boundless admiration for emerging on the other side in such a good place. Your story is quite different from mine. While older than you, I came out in my teens with far fewer challenges. I was never religious nor at any time sexually involved with women so obviously no children. My family and friends were and remain supportive. Your story makes me appreciate how lucky I've been. My hat's off to you for your courage and continued goodness of heart.
Thank you very much Jeff😊 I am glad to know that you had an easier time with such a significant moment in your life. Times and what was known about being gay was very different back then and Kevin and I are very grateful to learn of coming out experiences that seem much smoother now for others. Thanks for watching, check out our other videos and don't be a stranger. May God bless you and keep you.
Rich, thank you so much for your story. Your tears are heartfelt and welcomed. What a journey it's been I'm sure.. I'm very glad you met Kevin and have made a new life for the both of you. God Bless and hugs from Tucson! -G.
Tucson yes it has been a journey of wonderful times but very hard times. I thank God everyday that he has blessed me with so many things. My ex-wife for being my best friend and love for that time. But the hurt I cause her will hopefully get better. My 2 wonderful children that love me for me even though it is hard to have a broken home life. My wonderful family that surprised me and love me for me and love Kevin. For Kevin for being at the right place at the right time. I believe everything for a reason.
Rich, such a great video! Lots to unpack here. I definitely think there could be a part 2 to this video! So glad you have found your happy! My father is also gay and I am glad he is him. ❤️🙏
That is so cool. How old were you when he came out or was he always out? Yes there could be a part 2 but I was trying to not say to much that could hurt my ex-wife or children. Kevin and I will try to touch on some more topics that might bring things to light.
@@richandkevin6101 I was 19 when my dad came out. I have a brother and sister and were all out of high school when he came out and then my mother and father divorced.
@@gabrielncali8999 - It's always rough in this situation, isn't it? Especially if the wife did nothing wrong and was completely blindsided by it. Our hope is that more and more gay men come to accept themselves as gay earlier on so that they don't end up getting married believing they can handle it or that it will somehow go away. Do you dad and mom talk anymore or is that relationship completely over?
Don’t apologize for being emotional, it is a very emotional time in your life. Being old enough to be your Mother I just wanted to give you a big hug! I just found you and Kevin this afternoon and have subscribed, looking forward to more videos from you and Kevin!
It's nice to hear from younger people like yourself! The courage will appear when it's time. We were both in our 40's when we finally came out. Everyone is different so please do not be hard on yourself. Have a blessed day!
Thank you guys! Ill turn on my notification bell so I wont miss any videos in your channel. I hope you guys to see more and create a content your viewers like will inspire and have the huge courage to come out whatever happened.
@@rollybradecina3375 - You bet Rolly! Stay tuned - we have plenty of other videos in the works for the future covering a wide variety of topics and some fun things as well.
Thank you so much, Romeu. Rich and I had radically different experiences and personally, I don't know what I would have done if I was in his situation. But, we are all where we need to be now. Thank you for watching and making time to give us your comments. We hope you will continue to visit.
A belated congratulations Rich! @6:23 Emotional part. It's never easy the first time. I came out to my twin brother and felt exactly the same way! Thank you for sharing this Rich especially with gay men who have a wife and children.
Thanks Matt. Yes, it's not really easy despite what we see in television programs and it's also sad that some gay men still believe that if they get married and have kids that will somehow make the gay go away. Congratulations on your coming out to your brother.
This was probably the most powerful coming out story I have seen on TH-cam. Simply for the sincerity, it takes a lot of strength to be this real in front of so many people. Thank you for sharing such a genuine story, so glad that both of you have found happiness. God bless.
Thank you for your brave and honest share. It is amazing how similar your experience was to mine. I don't have many gay friends. My husband and I have been married for over 10 years and pretty much stay to our selves. It has been a very long road for me and I still struggle with self acceptance and poor self image. Love your channel. Have a powerful day! Respectfully, Robert
It's sad that every coming out story should bring so many tears. But I understand, I'm 54 y.o. I know things were really different just a few years ago. Congrats.
I loved your video, I cried every minute, but I was happy that you were beautiful and happy today! I'm from Brazil and you are beautiful, sincere and have a wonderful heart...be happy my dear
Hi Rich, im in tears already.....i just want you know that gay people are Gifted....when humanity eventually smartens up they will realize WE are a gift to the world, and they have yet to discover us.
Hi Rich. I Know! Sadly your story is all too typical of life in America from the 80's all the way back to this country's beginning. Your tears reflect the trauma instilled in children of ALL races and creeds at an early age who exibit "effeminate" traits. Parents and other Adults don't realize the permanent damage they cause to kids when they drill into kids that being who they "really" are is UNACCEPTABLE!. I know a black man who is 63 yrs old; gay as he will affirm privately but NEVER publicly. His parents and uncle were Methodist ministers and too this day he refuses to LIVE his True self. I've tried for 12 yrs since I've known him to free him of this terrible burden; but he is so damaged psychologically that he won't budge. He will unfortunately die having never "LIVED". RICH; THANK YOU! I LOVE YOU AND I'M QUITE SURE MILLIONS CAN IDENTITY WITH YOUR STORY. IT WILL BE ALRIGHT. JUST TAKE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME 🙏👍❤.
David thank you for the wonderful words. It is always sad to hear when people know who they are but they feel they have to keep it hidden. I do like that things are getting better.
As a 21 yo closeted guy, I've connected to married men in the closet to see if that works. I'm a muslim and there are online groups for closted married gay men who push the idea of how happy they are. I always had something in my guts about it and believed that it can't end up with a happy end at least on my side. I'm glad I left that group for 5 months now, and hope I can live my life the way I'm in a tolerant part of the world. I'm so happy for you gentleman. You are true, kindhearted and worthy of love ❤️ thanks for sharing your story 🙏❤️
Thank you so much! I am glad you realized that these groups may fill a short-term need, but they are not a long-term answer. Something always goes wrong with these types of arrangements. Keep being yourself and keep trusting your gut. Also, married, secretly gay men believe they can keep their two lives separate and that is rarely the case. Blessings to you and keep being true to yourself and you will find a mutually loving relationship, if that is what youwant for yourself. All the best and thanks for watching.
Well thank you for the wonderful comments. It’s people like you that makes it easy to know I did the right thing in making this video. We are going to be doing more video so state tuned.
I am so glad to have someone around my age group that I can look to for your story. You are a beautiful soul and you made me want to cry with you...I feel like i have gone though a similar situation and i am still single and fairly miserable because of it...thank you for sharing your story.
You have come to acceptance of yourself with God's help and now you can be the person God created . Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad that you found Kevin. It is so important to have God as a part of your life as you know. Thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you very much, Marco. It was not easy but life is so much better. God continues to bless and keep us and we are talking about that in our new video series. Thanks again for watching and for your comments and Happy New Year.
It's great to find people like you, who are open to talk about on how difficult was in high school to recognize you were gay (and maybe it is still). That is normally a very homophobic environment. I remember exactly like you to think: "Why do they call me gay? Did they notice? What did I do wrong?" And thank you for showing your feelings and your tears. That helps to see the great value of accepting our sensibility as men. 🙏💜 Big hug!
Thanks we are glad you liked the video. Hopefully, things are easier these days for those coming to terms with their sexuality. It's hard enough being so self conscious at that age to begin with. Have a great weekend.
Hi Kevin, I found your story surfing TH-cam for similar coming out stories…yours really hit home. I have 3 children and came out a second time to my ex wife and I am currently living alone and going through the motion of leaving the kids…it’s so incredible to find another person in my situation and I am wanting to know how everything is currently going for you and the children ??? How’s communication with the ex wife? My childhood was also similar as I knew when I was 5yrs old. I just didn’t know there was a name to it, I just knew I like boys at that time. The analogy of being in a huge room and it shrinking over time is really the perfect explanation….thank you for your courage and providing some hope to me and probably many others as well!
Thanks Terrell. I'm glad you found our channel. I am sorry to learn you are going through something similar. My ex wife is still bitter and resentful even though she was the one who initiated the divorce. We have the bare minimum of contact which is what she wants. The girls are young adults now, and I don't see them as much as I would like now that the court ordered visitations are over. Part of that is their age as well. But, we still chat once a week or so just to keep up. Thank you very much again for your heartfelt comments and we hope to hear from you again on some of our other videos.
so hard to focus on this video because I'm drowning in trauma and stress and rage and grief and shame, and overall emotional pain... I wish great suffering on those that I loathe. may they suffer, intense and overwhelming suffering...
I'm truly sorry for your struggles. It's not clear in your statement what is at the core of your troubles. Living in anger is not the answer. There is a wide variety of help available. Please reach out to someone who might help you through your situation.
First, God love you! I wished so many times that I had been there to hug you through those tears. NEVER apologize for them. They real and I believe one of the ways God gives us to literally let it out. So think of them as gifts from God. They are divine. Second, how wonderful you are to be such a good man, father and husband. You are so brave and so real and I found myself crying with you. I am blessed to have heard your story. Much love to you both!!
oH My Lord Rich . . . I am 42 now, married to my husband we met when I was 23-24; he is 44 now. WE have an 18 Y/O son. Please if U come by northern Indiana, please let me know, I will give you a big hug. My life experience was different, but I felt your tears & overall emotion. We’ll take U & Kevin to dinner; we might become friends. Thank U for sharing your personal experience.
Thank you so much, Carl. We will definitely reach out to you if we head up your way. It's really amazing how different all of our life experiences are. Kevin's coming out story is nearly the polar opposite of mine, yet we ended up in the same place. Thanks again and have a wonderful week!
Can you please do a detailed video on how you realized over the years about being gay and what experiences you had that made you accept yourself fully? Thank you.
Hi Rich. It’s been awhile since you made this video. I can’t believe how similar your story is to mine. I am from the Midwest and the only difference is I came out at 54 and stayed in the relationship for a few years also. The sadness for me is my only daughter has stopped any communication with me. I have moved to Florida with my partner. My first wife has refused a divorce. Mostly the same story lines! Thanks for spending the time. You and Kevin are good people. Craig.
Thank you so much for the compliment. My daughter we’re pretty young one was about 15 and the other around 10. But as they got older they came around more I just had to wait and let them know I was there when they need me. It would break my heart. You have to go on with your life and I didn’t hide what I was doing once they found out about Kevin. How long have you and your partner been together. What part of Florida do you live?
@Rich and Kevin My partner Steve and I have been together coming up on 5 years. Steve is 10 years older than me at 69 and I’m 59. We certainly can’t wait around too much to live our lives together which is why we moved from St Louis to Ocala Florida. I really connected with you when you said you have 4 brothers and 1 sister which is my family numbers too. Your comments were so very close to my experiences. But! my mom didn’t say to me my pussy wasn’t good enough. Lol 😂 Thanks again. Nice chatting.
@@richandkevin6101 No. I am working and Steve is retired. Sorry for the delay. TH-cam keeps putting my account on restricted mode and yours site pops up where I can’t respond. Ugh!
A valuable and helpful testimony. You write in response to a comment: ‘For the longest time I would think this happened to only me’. Perhaps it would have been pertinent to hear more on this, with details as to just how you felt increasingly boxed in.
Good for you for living your truth. We all have a story. Some sad, some heroic and some real funny. My husband is lucky...when he came out to his ex wife, she simply said: "well I don't have what you want". They are best of friends. We have 4 kids and 15 grandbabies...
Hello Rich when we stand in our truth and authenticity the universe will bring what is for our highest good despite your challenges of leaving a marriage you have been blessed with your husband " Blessed are the pure in Heart " "coming out" shows others that we are all equal and worthy in the eyes of the creator.
Im 33 yo and im still in closet 😭 and Single, im affraid for coming out, i live with my mom, being gay in my country is hard and Will be disaster for me and my Family, my wish one day i meet my prince and his take me, pick me up, and life with him in abroad, so im can be who im wanna be 😭
That's a tough situation to be in! You will know when it's the right time for you, but for now continue to be safe and look out for your mom and take care of yourself!
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As long as you have this pure heart and this lovely Kavin who loves you honestly; stay strong as be confidint of yourself as a integrated respectful man. God protect you dear. Plz do not cry😚😚😚
I can’t imagine how difficult that was being a 40 year old man who had built a family had two daughters and then came to come to the conclusion that he needed to come out of the closet. I’m sure that was very difficult sure it was a very cathartic experience. I went through a very similar situation but my rejection came from my husband. Other than a 17 year marriage and he was very involved with the church. When I was about 11 or 12 I discovered that I was attracted to certain activities That would now be considered BDSM and I’ve always been attracted to leather. So I had to coming out stories I came out as a gay man in my 30s had a 17 year relationship with my husband and then he divorced me because I had decided to come out of the leather closet. From that point I was also rejected by the leather community in the area that I live in which was very hard to so I had no support at all. I installed until either in BDSM it’s a big part of who I am and I truly believe it as a part of mind knowing my sexuality but who I am. I’m wishing you all the best and that you and your original family can find some sort of peace of mind together especially with your daughters. Thanks again for the story take care
I just want to hug you and tell u that I'm so so proud of you dear Rich❤️. Life and society are unfair to most of us, especially the LGBT community. But u r a brave man, u gentle soul who didn't want to disappoint ur loved ones and hung in there so far despite the immense pain u were going through. U r a gem of a person Rich and ur daughters are so so lucky to have u as their dad😊
Thank you for that wonderful comment. Life being out is wonderful. Kevin and I has really enjoyed your comments. Kevin’s coming out video will be coming soon.
Hi, I am doing great. Kevin and I are enjoying life and now having my youngest, Emiley, for regular overnights and weekends. Video wise, we have been doing a series on household finances. Please check them out if you have not already done so. Hope all is well with you.
I am a heterosexual woman and mother of 5 sons none of which are gay; however, we have very good friends that are gay, bisexual and transgender- They are all lovely people! We saw what they went through and being a Lakota woman we honestly never understood what the LBGTQA+ folks were going through! On our reserve gay people are considered 2-spirited and it’s natural and normal! When we moved to the city for work shocked my family at the treatment 2 gay kids went through at school! My husband passed away when our youngest was 2 - farm accident! The city offered work and education and our neighborhood had 2 gay children that were bullied and my sons intervened! Sadly, these children were rejected by their respective families! It was horrible! Our family became a receiving home for children at risk and we ended up with several children including these gay youngsters! Subsequent to therapy and help from St. Patrick’s church and my reserve these boys did just fine and are still doing well! This was back in the late 80’s and 90’s! Both young men are married and always come home for holidays or just whenever! Sadly their parents still have issues and it’s tragic that they are missing on wonderful relationships! We are so very Blessed to be their family and they are nonNative!
Kathy, what an amazing woman and mother you must be. Kevin and I love hearing stories like this and it further proves this world is full of many open hearted people. I have also heard that many native peoples regard gay people as 2 spirited. Thank you for finding our channel and we wish you a wonderful weekend!
@@richandkevin6101 No -Thank You! We need to see normal people just living their lives! I am not special in any way! Necessity is truly the mother of invention! We just gave a darn and we made mistakes too! Admittedly we benefited so very much from extending our family! When folks say it takes a community to raise a child, they are wrong! It takes a child to raise a community-Innocence is the greatest gift bc innocence is evidence Creator exists! 🍃🦅🍃🦌🍃🦬🍃🍃💚🍃❤️🍃🙏🏽👵🏽👋🏾🤗🤗
I watched your heartfelt story and was even moved to tears. However, I have a question. I am the ex-wife of a gay man who was "found out" after 35 years of marriage. We have 2 sons together and 5 grandchildren. The question is why do gay men marry women? Don't they realize the damage it could do to those women and their families? I have spent almost 5 years now thinking of suicide; going through hysterical, uncontrollable outbursts; hating to go to weddings; mistrusting all men; hating living alone; losing my best friend, and worrying about my future. To me, it seems like such a selfish move to marry a woman, thinking only of themselves rather than considering how it will affect so many lives when they finally come out. Why can't gay men just stay single until they come out rather than getting their lives entangled with an unsuspecting woman? Please don't send mean comments, I am just trying to understand this.
Hi and thanks for your comments. I can only speak for myself so I genuinely believed that being gay would go away if I married and had kids. Barring that I also believed that these were just urges that could be kept under control especially since I love being a dad and married my best friend. I slowly discovered that these good things did not stop me from being gay. Unfortunately many men in my age group believed something similar. There is collateral damage in these situations to most involved and for me there has not been an explanation that has satisfied my ex and I stopped apologizing many years ago. I hope my response has provided some insight.
@@richandkevin6101 I have thought about your response for a couple of days now. I thank you for your reply. You seem to be a really nice guy. I think I must be a lot like your ex-wife, looking for the right explanation and apology from my ex. I would love to text or message her to compare our stories. Is there any way I could do that with out it being public?
@@carolorear7126 Hi Carol, That would not be a good idea as my ex believed that gay people all go to hell and are damned by God so you will not get an accurate account of our marriage and all the other factors that came into play before she ordered me out of the house. If you want to talk with other ex wives of gay men I believe it would be best to see if there is a supportive group on line or reach out to your divorce attorney to see if they have any recommendations.
Each gay man who marries a woman has his own reasons for doing so. However, of the men I've known, none has set out to destroy anyone. Being homosexual is not an easy path, especially 35 or 40 years ago. Try to find someplace in your heart to be grateful for the wonderful things you did get from your husband. You had a longer marriage than many, you got beautiful children. I'm sure there's more. Please find a group or a therapist who can help you. Living in anger is not what you want. You need to be healthy and happy for your family.
@@carolorear7126 Hi Carol! I'm not sure if you might be the same lady who initially wrote under "Anonymous". Please read my reply to her in this thread. Also, trying to have a productive conversation with a woman like Rich's ex would not help you. Sometimes people get stuck in a negative emotion, and they don't want to try to understand. Fortunately, there are other women out there who actually maintained or revived their friendships with their ex-husbands who came out. Try to find a group or therapist to help in a more positive direction.
I'm a girl and I have identified as bisexual for most of my life but I think I might just be a lesbian. My mom would probably be accepting but I know my dad would be disappointed in me and not see me the same way. I also am not close with a lot of my family and I think they would probably judge me.
Hi Ms Cinema, it always hurts whenever we believe we don't have the support of our family. Kevin's family used don't ask and don't tell with him for several years. My youngest girl came out to us as a lesbian about 18 months ago and while we are supportive, her mother isn't and won't talk with her about it. Unfortunately it still falls on us to make those around us comfortable with our coming out instead of the other way around. I hope that you have some good friends who are supportive of who you are. Have a blessed week.
Sorry to hear that those at church and the ex-wife’s family said, “It’s a sin to be gay. Your gonna go to Hell.” I have been to hundreds of seances with two of the finest mediums in the US. The spirit guide, Evening Star, talked about heaven and hell. She said they were different for different people. She cited the example of listening to rock n roll music. Some people would feel like they are in heaven while others would think they’re in hell. “In my Father’s house are many mansions.” speaks of the variety and diversity in the Spirit World. When marriages end a good way to look at it is, “It served its purpose at the time.” Marriage is about who you want to live with. Dr. John Bartlett said in a seance, “The priest, minister and rabbi cannot make a marriage holy, only the people in it can do that.” In the US each state has different laws as to who can marry people. Are we really supposed to believe that God follows all 50 states laws as to what is holy matrimony and what is not? No way. The one called Jesus introduced new teachings to replace the old. John 13:34 states, “A new commandment I give you, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.” Jesus was inclusive, tolerant and accepting of people’s differences and status in life. He spoke with the Samaritan woman at Jacob’s well when Jews were not supposed to socially interact. He ate with tax collectors and sinners. He healed the insane and the Roman centurion’s servant. Please consider the following words from Rod McKuen, (not an exact quote, but close). "It does not matter who you love or how you love, but that you love. The good in man is God made manifest and loving is the contribution to that good and to that only God. For in the end the act of loving anyone is the act of loving God.”
I am si glad for every gay that came out before me… There are still just 4 people that know about me that I am gay, but I know that everything have its time, so I don’t need more people to know now, better wait for a good chance, than push it before the right time… At least in all of my comming of to someone it was in this way.
Good Morning, Horacio - Thanks for your comments! You will know - deep inside - when it's the right time for you to tell everyone. We hope you are enjoying our videos and we are very glad you are here!
What a nice guy you are. Unfortunately life can as is often a bitch. I can totally empathy with you and felt your pain even when you were 10 years old. It’s hard not feeling free to be you and at the same time being a class actor to deliver that role that everyone expected from you. I still see pain in your eyes but hope that will stop and your life is all you want it to be. Don’t no if I can watch you upset again found that very painful for me to see and hated to see you that way. Some how just wanted to make it better. Be happy x
Thank you those warm and thoughtful comments. I know you had to see pain because it is still there. How it all came out and the loss of time from my children. I love being out and my life with Kevin is so wonderful. Looking back now it’s all been a blessing from God.
This is what happens when society pressures men to conform to hipprotical biggoted controling religious lies. So many lives are ruined wife children extended families and the men who are driven to Anxiety Depression and suicidae God said keep to your own affairs leave men to the free choice that they were given by. God✝️🌈✡️🏳️🌈
You are a nice guy. I think it is sad, you stayed another 7 years only to get kicked out of the house anyway. Also, your then wife maybe was not discussing your revelation with you during that time, but chances are she was discussing it with your religious leaders and even her family behind your back. Moral of the story? Time lost, you cannot regain. So be honest from the start. You only get one life ro live on earth, so live it right.
So a question..you said you told your mom that you were sorry to DISAPPOINT her but that you’re GAY, do you think that your being GAY is a DISAPPOINTMENT?
I did at the time, but realized quite quickly as I was settling in to being out that being gay is not a disappointment. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend
I think we gays represent a true threat to str8 men. We are not obvious to them, the way a woman is. We upset their sense of alpha hierarchy. Every man knows that he can overpower a woman, whether society condones or condemns that act in whatever era and area you find yourself. A gay man is someone that can potentially overpower a str8 man and treat him the same way he could potentially treat a woman... I think therein lays the truth of why they hate us. Otherwise, you'd think they'd be relieved that we are not competing with them for a woman's attention. I am perplexed at the level of religion that bears on your lives. If you must, check out Metropolitan Community Church. It's time religion becomes based on the acceptance of human reality.
Thank you for your comments. Faith and religion are two different things: Faith is God perceived with the heart whereas religion is how to overcome the world. We attend Life Journey Church and you can find their services on TH-cam and Facebook as well as their website. We will be covering more of our spiritual journey in upcoming videos.
Como não sei falar inglês.Vejo o vídeo e depois passo para o tradutor.Para enteder o que você está relatando.Moro no Brasil .Estou torcendo para não ser nada 😢😞😞😞 grave . Acompanho 😁😃😃😃 várias vídeos Gays.Boa Sorte . Tchau 👋👋
My prayer for you is that some day you can find an open spot in your heart to learn what homosexual people go through trying to fit in to "normal". Not one of the gay people I've known in my life set out to hurt anyone with deception of who they are.
4:30 The fact that you knew you were gay but you still pursued a marriage with a woman to cover your lack of courage. What about that woman? You never loved her as a man with passion. you were never in love with her. However she made it easier for you to go through a successful life. I said that because being gay is just one area of life. There are other bigger important areas at the end. Your wife helped you through those big areas. Where is she now?
@@richandkevin6101 no man. I’ve been through the rough time of coming out. I had the chance of getting married and make it easier for family and friends. But I saw her and I thought it wouldn’t be fair to trick her into a situation for my benefit. I’m from South America and my family is Catholic conservative. I had to face a very difficult time. I could have had children and other blessings that come with marriage but I chose to fight it. I saw your video with open heart and mind. You did well but you have to admit she was there. Best wishes to you and your husband.
As your niece I just want to say we love you so much and accept you just as you are! Don't worry or feel like you need to be embarrassed about anything that happened! Grandma is hilarious she loves kevin the most outta all her kid's spouses! She is very opinionated tho! We are so happy and proud that you are strong enough to strive after all of that! Gay uncle pride🦄🌈❤🧡💛💚💙💜 BTW this is casey
Thank you Casey. I know Kevin and I are loved by you all just like we love you. It is so wonderful to be in a family that love us for us. We all need to remember love is love.
Awe - So Creative 🥰🤗🍃🦬🍃🦌🍃
Hi Everyone, we had someone who left a comment and then deleted it before we could respond. This person was worried about some very real danger to them if they ever came out and wondered if it made them coward to stay in the closet out of fear of this danger. Our belief is that NO, you are not being a coward. We believe that you will know when it's the right time to come out because you will experience a sense of peace about it even though there may still be some danger in doing so. We know this can be very hard to do but please do not think badly of yourself if it's not your time. You will know when it's your time. Much love to all - stay safe.
I’m single and 60 this year. Never officially came out to my Mum and Dad, but I have a recognition that they knew. Comments like’ David is different’ . I had a great relationship with both of them and nursed both of them until they died, Dad 30 years ago and Mum 3 years. Grew up in a non accepting church. Miss them terribly but I rely on the great memories I have
David it sounds like you had great parents. You know some times it is just an unspoken conversation. I know after I told my mom that I was gay she said she already know and that she was just waiting for me to say it. I have know doubt your Mum and Dad would have loved you no matter what.
I cried with you. So heart felt. Enjoy the rest of your life with Kevin 😊👍🏿
Do I ever know the feeling. Coming out at 30 after 10 years of marriage and my daughter being in the picture. I did not get the 'Gay Community' in San Diego. I wanted the same little home with the white picket fence, but with a man. That is not the 'Gay Scene'. It took many years to finally find that, but I did. I had ten wonderful years. You guys are so lucky and yes, it was so worth it! Bless you both!
I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through the same things pretty much. I hope you have a good relationship with your daughter. But I am glad that you got that white picket fence. That is the blessing in this coming out video to hear from wonderful people like you and to help other men in there journey.
Beautifully expressed. Older gay people have known a very different world than younger gays, so it’s critical that you speak up before the history of cruelty against fellow humans is lost forever. We must never forget because it can happen again. Also, we may be hurting other people in the ways we were once hurt. So keep telling your powerful story of “the love that dare not speak its name.”
I hope and pray that the world is changing for the better for all people. But I do think it is great when you see the younger kids or young adults come out to their families and friends are totally on board. How great could our world be if everyone could just do what God wants us to do. LOVE
Bless you Rich. You did the only thing you could do. I cried with you.
Jethro thank you it is so wonderful to know great people like you are out there. And thank you for the blessing. I will always that them.
SO many similarities between you and me, Rich. Was married for 25 years to a woman. I came out to her, tried conversion therapy, because even then I still believed I didn't want to be gay--that it was a sin. Obviously it didn't take. Haha. I get along fine with my ex-wife now. Our two sons are totally accepting of me and we all get along well. I have 5 grandkids. My ex has remarried. I am still single. Thank you for sharing this! We are not alone, are we!
Thank you. It is nice to know I’m not the only one out there. For the longest time I would think this only happened to me.
You are a very sincere person and I'm glad things worked out for you. I am 66, married for 37 years, with 4 grown children and one grandchild. I came out as bi-sexual about a month ago to my wife, children and two best friends. My marriage has been rocky for years and I finally got up the courage to come out to my wife, not knowing what the end result would be, but I wanted to shoulder my portion of the blame for our marriage problems. She is very civil and understanding, but she felt like I had deceived her and said that she would never had married me had she known and that I disappointed her as a liar. I want her to seek counseling for her own good, but refused. Our grown kids and my friends are extremely accepting, but I have extreme guilt for what I did---even though I loved my wife and she was never a "cover wife". She does want a divorce and truly I think we would be happier apart. It is hard, but like Rich said, you think you have it under control, but you don't. I could never fully give my wife all she wanted or deserved. We are both grateful for our children and will hopefully be able celebrate birthdays and special occasions all together. It is liberating for the first time in my life, tho, to be the real me.
Thank you very much Robert. Sounds like our stories have some similarities. I am glad you have a good relationship with your family. My ex wife still refuses to speak to me to this day, and she will not move on and it's been nearly 10 years since she told me to leave.
Hi Rich. I'm Marcus from Brazil. I'm 53 years old, have two sons (17 and 22), and i lived a very, very similar story to yours. I came out when i was 36, and that was so hard that i got depressed and took medicine for about one year. But, the storm went gone, thanks God! As you, i'm from a very religious family, and at the beginning, they believed they need to save my soul. My ex wife, asked me to stop seeing my sons, which changed for about two months later... Now i'm a great friend of may ex wife, love her and my relation with my two sons and family is full of love and acceptance. Every thing is normal, besides i know that my mother still wish secretly that a went back to my ex wife (my mother is 90, and i guess she has done her best, and went till the point, only real love, could have guided her to). Please forgive if i made some mistakes, writing in english. Congratulations for expressing so beautifully your coming out story. Wish you both a life full of joy and happiness!
Thank you for replying. I’m happy for your outcome. I thought in my mind at the start that my ex wife and I would be able to stay friends and I would continue to be part of there lives on a daily basis. We on text and that is about it. I will always keep that door open. Are you with anyone. I don’t know if you have Instagram but you can join our Instagram friends. Marriedlifeofrichandkevin. Keep in touch.
As your niece I am so proud of who you are and how your story has turned out this is Tara and I’m so happy that your very happy and know your very loved by your whole family much love from me and Jason Isabella Grayson Sean and austin we love you uncle rich and uncle Kevin
Thank you for your comments
I just discovered your channel (Rich and Kevin) this afternoon. I am VERY impressed with your emotional honesty. Absolutely no need to apologize for your tears. I read once that tears come from the heart.....
Thank you. Yes the tears come from two places. The heartbreak of hurting the love ones and the happiness of my life now. It is so awesome that the love I have been getting from you all.
beautiful video. My partner who is in his late 60's came out earlier this month. I know the courage it takes to tell others who you really are. All the best.
Thank you so much. Please tell your partner congratulations from me and I wish you both nothing but the best!
Bless you for telling your truth. You didn't deserve to have to cross that minefield from that tender age of innocence just to be who God created and to love your husband and family honestly. Stay vigilant to protect the safe space in society you've carved out, and bless you for acknowledging the fight we your elders fought for suffering like yours to be a thing of the ignorant past.
What a difficult process for you, and my boundless admiration for emerging on the other side in such a good place. Your story is quite different from mine. While older than you, I came out in my teens with far fewer challenges. I was never religious nor at any time sexually involved with women so obviously no children. My family and friends were and remain supportive. Your story makes me appreciate how lucky I've been. My hat's off to you for your courage and continued goodness of heart.
Thank you very much Jeff😊 I am glad to know that you had an easier time with such a significant moment in your life. Times and what was known about being gay was very different back then and Kevin and I are very grateful to learn of coming out experiences that seem much smoother now for others. Thanks for watching, check out our other videos and don't be a stranger. May God bless you and keep you.
Rich, thank you so much for your story. Your tears are heartfelt and welcomed. What a journey it's been I'm sure.. I'm very glad you met Kevin and have made a new life for the both of you. God Bless and hugs from Tucson! -G.
Tucson yes it has been a journey of wonderful times but very hard times. I thank God everyday that he has blessed me with so many things. My ex-wife for being my best friend and love for that time. But the hurt I cause her will hopefully get better. My 2 wonderful children that love me for me even though it is hard to have a broken home life. My wonderful family that surprised me and love me for me and love Kevin. For Kevin for being at the right place at the right time. I believe everything for a reason.
Rich, such a great video! Lots to unpack here. I definitely think there could be a part 2 to this video! So glad you have found your happy! My father is also gay and I am glad he is him. ❤️🙏
That is so cool. How old were you when he came out or was he always out? Yes there could be a part 2 but I was trying to not say to much that could hurt my ex-wife or children. Kevin and I will try to touch on some more topics that might bring things to light.
@@richandkevin6101 I was 19 when my dad came out. I have a brother and sister and were all out of high school when he came out and then my mother and father divorced.
Well I hope it worked out for everyone
@@gabrielncali8999 - It's always rough in this situation, isn't it? Especially if the wife did nothing wrong and was completely blindsided by it. Our hope is that more and more gay men come to accept themselves as gay earlier on so that they don't end up getting married believing they can handle it or that it will somehow go away. Do you dad and mom talk anymore or is that relationship completely over?
Don’t apologize for being emotional, it is a very emotional time in your life. Being old enough to be your Mother I just wanted to give you a big hug! I just found you and Kevin this afternoon and have subscribed, looking forward to more videos from you and Kevin!
Thank you. It is so wonderful to hear from great people like you.
This is worth it to watch, im 28 now and still do have the courage to come out :(
It's nice to hear from younger people like yourself! The courage will appear when it's time. We were both in our 40's when we finally came out. Everyone is different so please do not be hard on yourself. Have a blessed day!
Thank you guys! Ill turn on my notification bell so I wont miss any videos in your channel. I hope you guys to see more and create a content your viewers like will inspire and have the huge courage to come out whatever happened.
@@rollybradecina3375 - You bet Rolly! Stay tuned - we have plenty of other videos in the works for the future covering a wide variety of topics and some fun things as well.
Thank you for sharing your story. I cried along with you. I want to give you a hug. I can relate to everything you've said. God bless you!
Thank you for sharing even if you make me cry. Love you both.
Please don’t cry. God has done wonderful things in my life
Thank you so much, Romeu. Rich and I had radically different experiences and personally, I don't know what I would have done if I was in his situation. But, we are all where we need to be now. Thank you for watching and making time to give us your comments. We hope you will continue to visit.
A belated congratulations Rich! @6:23 Emotional part. It's never easy the first time. I came out to my twin brother and felt exactly the same way! Thank you for sharing this Rich especially with gay men who have a wife and children.
Thanks Matt. Yes, it's not really easy despite what we see in television programs and it's also sad that some gay men still believe that if they get married and have kids that will somehow make the gay go away. Congratulations on your coming out to your brother.
This was probably the most powerful coming out story I have seen on TH-cam. Simply for the sincerity, it takes a lot of strength to be this real in front of so many people. Thank you for sharing such a genuine story, so glad that both of you have found happiness. God bless.
Thank you.
This video was emotional. I cried right there with you. Bless you.
Thanks Bear!
Thank you for your brave and honest share. It is amazing how similar your experience was to mine. I don't have many gay friends. My husband and I have been married for over 10 years and pretty much stay to our selves. It has been a very long road for me and I still struggle with self acceptance and poor self image. Love your channel.
Have a powerful day!
Respectfully, Robert
It's sad that every coming out story should bring so many tears. But I understand, I'm 54 y.o. I know things were really different just a few years ago. Congrats.
Giacomo yes things are better. It's funny that the tears are heart breaking but being able to be yourself is so wonderful. Please keep watching.
I loved your video, I cried every minute, but I was happy that you were beautiful and happy today! I'm from Brazil and you are beautiful, sincere and have a wonderful heart...be happy my dear
Hi Rich, im in tears already.....i just want you know that gay people are Gifted....when humanity eventually smartens up they will realize WE are a gift to the world, and they have yet to discover us.
Hi Rich. I Know! Sadly your story is all too typical of life in America from the 80's all the way back to this country's beginning. Your tears reflect the trauma instilled in children of ALL races and creeds at an early age who exibit "effeminate" traits. Parents and other Adults don't realize the permanent damage they cause to kids when they drill into kids that being who they "really" are is UNACCEPTABLE!. I know a black man who is 63 yrs old; gay as he will affirm privately but NEVER publicly. His parents and uncle were Methodist ministers and too this day he refuses to LIVE his True self. I've tried for 12 yrs since I've known him to free him of this terrible burden; but he is so damaged psychologically that he won't budge. He will unfortunately die having never "LIVED". RICH; THANK YOU! I LOVE YOU AND I'M QUITE SURE MILLIONS CAN IDENTITY WITH YOUR STORY. IT WILL BE ALRIGHT. JUST TAKE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME 🙏👍❤.
David thank you for the wonderful words. It is always sad to hear when people know who they are but they feel they have to keep it hidden. I do like that things are getting better.
As a 21 yo closeted guy, I've connected to married men in the closet to see if that works. I'm a muslim and there are online groups for closted married gay men who push the idea of how happy they are. I always had something in my guts about it and believed that it can't end up with a happy end at least on my side. I'm glad I left that group for 5 months now, and hope I can live my life the way I'm in a tolerant part of the world. I'm so happy for you gentleman. You are true, kindhearted and worthy of love ❤️ thanks for sharing your story 🙏❤️
Thank you so much! I am glad you realized that these groups may fill a short-term need, but they are not a long-term answer. Something always goes wrong with these types of arrangements. Keep being yourself and keep trusting your gut. Also, married, secretly gay men believe they can keep their two lives separate and that is rarely the case. Blessings to you and keep being true to yourself and you will find a mutually loving relationship, if that is what youwant for yourself. All the best and thanks for watching.
Thank you so much for uploading this. You and Kevin are such wonderful men, I really like you. Also, hearing you talk does so good.
Well thank you for the wonderful comments. It’s people like you that makes it easy to know I did the right thing in making this video. We are going to be doing more video so state tuned.
@@richandkevin6101 I look forward to it. Keep up the good job! :-)
I am so glad to have someone around my age group that I can look to for your story. You are a beautiful soul and you made me want to cry with you...I feel like i have gone though a similar situation and i am still single and fairly miserable because of it...thank you for sharing your story.
You have come to acceptance of yourself with God's help and now you can be the person God created . Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad that you found Kevin. It is so important to have God as a part of your life as you know. Thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you very much, Marco. It was not easy but life is so much better. God continues to bless and keep us and we are talking about that in our new video series. Thanks again for watching and for your comments and Happy New Year.
Thank you for sharing your story. I just want to give you a hug.
Thanks, it was a long process but I am finally where I am supposed to be.
So proud of you. Thank you for your story. 🙏❤️👍
It's great to find people like you, who are open to talk about on how difficult was in high school to recognize you were gay (and maybe it is still). That is normally a very homophobic environment. I remember exactly like you to think: "Why do they call me gay? Did they notice? What did I do wrong?"
And thank you for showing your feelings and your tears. That helps to see the great value of accepting our sensibility as men. 🙏💜
Big hug!
Thanks we are glad you liked the video. Hopefully, things are easier these days for those coming to terms with their sexuality. It's hard enough being so self conscious at that age to begin with. Have a great weekend.
Hi Kevin, I found your story surfing TH-cam for similar coming out stories…yours really hit home. I have 3 children and came out a second time to my ex wife and I am currently living alone and going through the motion of leaving the kids…it’s so incredible to find another person in my situation and I am wanting to know how everything is currently going for you and the children ??? How’s communication with the ex wife? My childhood was also similar as I knew when I was 5yrs old. I just didn’t know there was a name to it, I just knew I like boys at that time. The analogy of being in a huge room and it shrinking over time is really the perfect explanation….thank you for your courage and providing some hope to me and probably many others as well!
Thanks Terrell. I'm glad you found our channel. I am sorry to learn you are going through something similar. My ex wife is still bitter and resentful even though she was the one who initiated the divorce. We have the bare minimum of contact which is what she wants. The girls are young adults now, and I don't see them as much as I would like now that the court ordered visitations are over. Part of that is their age as well. But, we still chat once a week or so just to keep up. Thank you very much again for your heartfelt comments and we hope to hear from you again on some of our other videos.
Congratulation man !!!!!!!! You are wonderfull !!!!!! God bless you !!!!!!!
So proud of you. Glad you are happy. God bless!❤
Thank you.
This is amazing! I appreciate your words. I’m so glad you shared.
What did you like the most? I have been asked to explain more of how I dealt with me coming out how I expected myself.
So I will be going into this in an upcoming video
so hard to focus on this video
because I'm drowning
in trauma and stress
and rage and grief and shame,
and overall emotional pain...
I wish great suffering on those that I loathe.
may they suffer, intense and overwhelming suffering...
I'm truly sorry for your struggles. It's not clear in your statement what is at the core of your troubles. Living in anger is not the answer. There is a wide variety of help available. Please reach out to someone who might help you through your situation.
First, God love you! I wished so many times that I had been there to hug you through those tears. NEVER apologize for them. They real and I believe one of the ways God gives us to literally let it out. So think of them as gifts from God. They are divine.
Second, how wonderful you are to be such a good man, father and husband. You are so brave and so real and I found myself crying with you. I am blessed to have heard your story.
Much love to you both!!
Thank you very much Austin. I have been truly blessed.
oH My Lord Rich . . . I am 42 now, married to my husband we met when I was 23-24; he is 44 now. WE have an 18 Y/O son. Please if U come by northern Indiana, please let me know, I will give you a big hug. My life experience was different, but I felt your tears & overall emotion. We’ll take U & Kevin to dinner; we might become friends. Thank U for sharing your personal experience.
Thank you so much, Carl. We will definitely reach out to you if we head up your way. It's really amazing how different all of our life experiences are. Kevin's coming out story is nearly the polar opposite of mine, yet we ended up in the same place. Thanks again and have a wonderful week!
Can you please do a detailed video on how you realized over the years about being gay and what experiences you had that made you accept yourself fully? Thank you.
Yes Kevin will touch on that when he does his coming out video and I will respond to this soon.
@@richandkevin6101 Thank you. A new subscriber here. Very happy to see both of you. God bless and I hope you two have a wonderful life ahead.
Hi Rich. It’s been awhile since you made this video. I can’t believe how similar your story is to mine. I am from the Midwest and the only difference is I came out at 54 and stayed in the relationship for a few years also. The sadness for me is my only daughter has stopped any communication with me. I have moved to Florida with my partner. My first wife has refused a divorce. Mostly the same story lines! Thanks for spending the time. You and Kevin are good people.
Craig.
Thank you so much for the compliment. My daughter we’re pretty young one was about 15 and the other around 10. But as they got older they came around more I just had to wait and let them know I was there when they need me. It would break my heart. You have to go on with your life and I didn’t hide what I was doing once they found out about Kevin. How long have you and your partner been together. What part of Florida do you live?
@Rich and Kevin
My partner Steve and I have been together coming up on 5 years. Steve is 10 years older than me at 69 and I’m 59. We certainly can’t wait around too much to live our lives together which is why we moved from St Louis to Ocala Florida. I really connected with you when you said you have 4 brothers and 1 sister which is my family numbers too. Your comments were so very close to my experiences. But! my mom didn’t say to me my pussy wasn’t good enough. Lol 😂
Thanks again. Nice chatting.
@@craigjean11 are you both retired
@@richandkevin6101
No. I am working and Steve is retired. Sorry for the delay. TH-cam keeps putting my account on restricted mode and yours site pops up where I can’t respond. Ugh!
@@craigjean11 are you a subscriber
A valuable and helpful testimony. You write in response to a comment: ‘For the longest time I would think this happened to only me’. Perhaps it would have been pertinent to hear more on this, with details as to just how you felt increasingly boxed in.
Thanks for your comments. I most likely will make more videos on this topic.
Good for you for living your truth. We all have a story. Some sad, some heroic and some real funny. My husband is lucky...when he came out to his ex wife, she simply said: "well I don't have what you want". They are best of friends. We have 4 kids and 15 grandbabies...
That is great and thank you for sharing. Life is funny.
I knew the tears were coming, so mine started before yours! I love you 😘
You know me so well. I try to not be so emotional but you know I can't help it. Especially when I'm talking about my daughters.
Glad you’re happy right now.
Thank you I am very happy.
Hello Rich when we stand in our truth and authenticity the universe will bring what is for our highest good despite your challenges of leaving a marriage you have been blessed with your husband " Blessed are the pure in Heart " "coming out" shows others that we are all equal and worthy in the eyes of the creator.
Im 33 yo and im still in closet 😭 and Single, im affraid for coming out, i live with my mom, being gay in my country is hard and Will be disaster for me and my Family, my wish one day i meet my prince and his take me, pick me up, and life with him in abroad, so im can be who im wanna be 😭
That's a tough situation to be in! You will know when it's the right time for you, but for now continue to be safe and look out for your mom and take care of yourself!
@@richandkevin6101 thanks 👍👍
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Thank you very much Osman. I am glad you watched my video story.
As long as you have this pure heart and this lovely Kavin who loves you honestly; stay strong as be confidint of yourself as a integrated respectful man. God protect you dear. Plz do not cry😚😚😚
Thank you, Moon!
There is no hell , when There is love !!!!!!
I can’t imagine how difficult that was being a 40 year old man who had built a family had two daughters and then came to come to the conclusion that he needed to come out of the closet. I’m sure that was very difficult sure it was a very cathartic experience. I went through a very similar situation but my rejection came from my husband. Other than a 17 year marriage and he was very involved with the church. When I was about 11 or 12 I discovered that I was attracted to certain activities That would now be considered BDSM and I’ve always been attracted to leather. So I had to coming out stories I came out as a gay man in my 30s had a 17 year relationship with my husband and then he divorced me because I had decided to come out of the leather closet. From that point I was also rejected by the leather community in the area that I live in which was very hard to so I had no support at all. I installed until either in BDSM it’s a big part of who I am and I truly believe it as a part of mind knowing my sexuality but who I am. I’m wishing you all the best and that you and your original family can find some sort of peace of mind together especially with your daughters. Thanks again for the story take care
Thank you and I hope you enjoy your life. We only get one on this earth. Keep watching.
I like the fact that you called it a room that got smaller. I believe that you did love her, until the love died.
It was nice to hear from you. I wanted to explain that the love didn’t died but it changed. I still love her but in a different way.
Hats off to you Rich. May God bless you both.
Thank you and there will be more.
I just want to hug you and tell u that I'm so so proud of you dear Rich❤️. Life and society are unfair to most of us, especially the LGBT community. But u r a brave man, u gentle soul who didn't want to disappoint ur loved ones and hung in there so far despite the immense pain u were going through. U r a gem of a person Rich and ur daughters are so so lucky to have u as their dad😊
Thank you for that wonderful comment. Life being out is wonderful. Kevin and I has really enjoyed your comments. Kevin’s coming out video will be coming soon.
So glad you are happy now
How are u doing. Love to hear how your getting on. X
Hi, I am doing great. Kevin and I are enjoying life and now having my youngest, Emiley, for regular overnights and weekends. Video wise, we have been doing a series on household finances. Please check them out if you have not already done so. Hope all is well with you.
Me and my husband always thought you were gay but was like he is married so maybe not so happy you came out congratulations
I am a heterosexual woman and mother of 5 sons none of which are gay; however, we have very good friends that are gay, bisexual and transgender- They are all lovely people! We saw what they went through and being a Lakota woman we honestly never understood what the LBGTQA+ folks were going through! On our reserve gay people are considered 2-spirited and it’s natural and normal! When we moved to the city for work shocked my family at the treatment 2 gay kids went through at school! My husband passed away when our youngest was 2 - farm accident! The city offered work and education and our neighborhood had 2 gay children that were bullied and my sons intervened! Sadly, these children were rejected by their respective families! It was horrible! Our family became a receiving home for children at risk and we ended up with several children including these gay youngsters! Subsequent to therapy and help from St. Patrick’s church and my reserve these boys did just fine and are still doing well! This was back in the late 80’s and 90’s! Both young men are married and always come home for holidays or just whenever! Sadly their parents still have issues and it’s tragic that they are missing on wonderful relationships! We are so very Blessed to be their family and they are nonNative!
Kathy, what an amazing woman and mother you must be. Kevin and I love hearing stories like this and it further proves this world is full of many open hearted people. I have also heard that many native peoples regard gay people as 2 spirited. Thank you for finding our channel and we wish you a wonderful weekend!
@@richandkevin6101 No -Thank You! We need to see normal people just living their lives! I am not special in any way! Necessity is truly the mother of invention! We just gave a darn and we made mistakes too! Admittedly we benefited so very much from extending our family! When folks say it takes a community to raise a child, they are wrong! It takes a child to raise a community-Innocence is the greatest gift bc innocence is evidence Creator exists! 🍃🦅🍃🦌🍃🦬🍃🍃💚🍃❤️🍃🙏🏽👵🏽👋🏾🤗🤗
I watched your heartfelt story and was even moved to tears. However, I have a question. I am the ex-wife of a gay man who was "found out" after 35 years of marriage. We have 2 sons together and 5 grandchildren. The question is why do gay men marry women? Don't they realize the damage it could do to those women and their families? I have spent almost 5 years now thinking of suicide; going through hysterical, uncontrollable outbursts; hating to go to weddings; mistrusting all men; hating living alone; losing my best friend, and worrying about my future. To me, it seems like such a selfish move to marry a woman, thinking only of themselves rather than considering how it will affect so many lives when they finally come out. Why can't gay men just stay single until they come out rather than getting their lives entangled with an unsuspecting woman? Please don't send mean comments, I am just trying to understand this.
Hi and thanks for your comments. I can only speak for myself so I genuinely believed that being gay would go away if I married and had kids. Barring that I also believed that these were just urges that could be kept under control especially since I love being a dad and married my best friend. I slowly discovered that these good things did not stop me from being gay. Unfortunately many men in my age group believed something similar. There is collateral damage in these situations to most involved and for me there has not been an explanation that has satisfied my ex and I stopped apologizing many years ago. I hope my response has provided some insight.
@@richandkevin6101 I have thought about your response for a couple of days now. I thank you for your reply. You seem to be a really nice guy. I think I must be a lot like your ex-wife, looking for the right explanation and apology from my ex. I would love to text or message her to compare our stories. Is there any way I could do that with out it being public?
@@carolorear7126 Hi Carol, That would not be a good idea as my ex believed that gay people all go to hell and are damned by God so you will not get an accurate account of our marriage and all the other factors that came into play before she ordered me out of the house. If you want to talk with other ex wives of gay men I believe it would be best to see if there is a supportive group on line or reach out to your divorce attorney to see if they have any recommendations.
Each gay man who marries a woman has his own reasons for doing so. However, of the men I've known, none has set out to destroy anyone. Being homosexual is not an easy path, especially 35 or 40 years ago. Try to find someplace in your heart to be grateful for the wonderful things you did get from your husband. You had a longer marriage than many, you got beautiful children. I'm sure there's more. Please find a group or a therapist who can help you. Living in anger is not what you want. You need to be healthy and happy for your family.
@@carolorear7126 Hi Carol! I'm not sure if you might be the same lady who initially wrote under "Anonymous". Please read my reply to her in this thread. Also, trying to have a productive conversation with a woman like Rich's ex would not help you. Sometimes people get stuck in a negative emotion, and they don't want to try to understand. Fortunately, there are other women out there who actually maintained or revived their friendships with their ex-husbands who came out. Try to find a group or therapist to help in a more positive direction.
I'm a girl and I have identified as bisexual for most of my life but I think I might just be a lesbian. My mom would probably be accepting but I know my dad would be disappointed in me and not see me the same way. I also am not close with a lot of my family and I think they would probably judge me.
Hi Ms Cinema, it always hurts whenever we believe we don't have the support of our family. Kevin's family used don't ask and don't tell with him for several years. My youngest girl came out to us as a lesbian about 18 months ago and while we are supportive, her mother isn't and won't talk with her about it. Unfortunately it still falls on us to make those around us comfortable with our coming out instead of the other way around. I hope that you have some good friends who are supportive of who you are. Have a blessed week.
The moods of Neil Diamond.
God Bless
Thank you and God Bless you also. Please keep watching
Sorry to hear that those at church and the ex-wife’s family said, “It’s a sin to be gay. Your gonna go to Hell.” I have been to hundreds of seances with two of the finest mediums in the US. The spirit guide, Evening Star, talked about heaven and hell. She said they were different for different people. She cited the example of listening to rock n roll music. Some people would feel like they are in heaven while others would think they’re in hell. “In my Father’s house are many mansions.” speaks of the variety and diversity in the Spirit World.
When marriages end a good way to look at it is, “It served its purpose at the time.” Marriage is about who you want to live with. Dr. John Bartlett said in a seance, “The priest, minister and rabbi cannot make a marriage holy, only the people in it can do that.”
In the US each state has different laws as to who can marry people. Are we really supposed to believe that God follows all 50 states laws as to what is holy matrimony and what is not? No way. The one called Jesus introduced new teachings to replace the old. John 13:34 states, “A new commandment I give you, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”
Jesus was inclusive, tolerant and accepting of people’s differences and status in life. He spoke with the Samaritan woman at Jacob’s well when Jews were not supposed to socially interact. He ate with tax collectors and sinners. He healed the insane and the Roman centurion’s servant.
Please consider the following words from Rod McKuen, (not an exact quote, but close). "It does not matter who you love or how you love, but that you love. The good in man is God made manifest and loving is the contribution to that good and to that only God. For in the end the act of loving anyone is the act of loving God.”
Thank you for these wonderful words and keep on watching. We will put out more videos.
I am si glad for every gay that came out before me… There are still just 4 people that know about me that I am gay, but I know that everything have its time, so I don’t need more people to know now, better wait for a good chance, than push it before the right time… At least in all of my comming of to someone it was in this way.
Good Morning, Horacio - Thanks for your comments! You will know - deep inside - when it's the right time for you to tell everyone. We hope you are enjoying our videos and we are very glad you are here!
What a nice guy you are. Unfortunately life can as is often a bitch. I can totally empathy with you and felt your pain even when you were 10 years old. It’s hard not feeling free to be you and at the same time being a class actor to deliver that role that everyone expected from you. I still see pain in your eyes but hope that will stop and your life is all you want it to be. Don’t no if I can watch you upset again found that very painful for me to see and hated to see you that way. Some how just wanted to make it better. Be happy x
Thank you those warm and thoughtful comments. I know you had to see pain because it is still there. How it all came out and the loss of time from my children. I love being out and my life with Kevin is so wonderful. Looking back now it’s all been a blessing from God.
Thank you so much!
I need help......... , i am dying here, very nice and emotional story😭
Thanks for watching. What do you mean I need help?
@@richandkevin6101 I can't come out, I am living in a country where they kill gay people, so I need to stay in the shadow 😭😭
@@jadkamel1814 what country do you live in?
i can feeling same thinks too
This is what happens when society pressures men to conform to hipprotical biggoted controling religious lies. So many lives are ruined wife children extended families and the men who are driven to Anxiety Depression and suicidae God said keep to your own affairs leave men to the free choice that they were given by. God✝️🌈✡️🏳️🌈
I'm a lonely sailor.
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You are a nice guy. I think it is sad, you stayed another 7 years only to get kicked out of the house anyway. Also, your then wife maybe was not discussing your revelation with you during that time, but chances are she was discussing it with your religious leaders and even her family behind your back. Moral of the story? Time lost, you cannot regain. So be honest from the start. You only get one life ro live on earth, so live it right.
Thank you for your comments. Hindsight is 20/20
Read “a new earth” by eckhart tolle and bless you- sorry for your hardships 🙏
So a question..you said you told your mom that you were sorry to DISAPPOINT her but that you’re GAY, do you think that your being GAY is a DISAPPOINTMENT?
I did at the time, but realized quite quickly as I was settling in to being out that being gay is not a disappointment. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend
Hi Rich, were you Felicia's roommate in 1990?
HI, Christopher - No, I was married back in 1990 and my wife and I did not share a house with anyone.
Is your new church affirming of your life's choice?
Yes the welcome everyone.
Yes, and being gay is not a life choice. Be sure to watch our next series as we will be talking about our experiences as gay Christians
I think we gays represent a true threat to str8 men. We are not obvious to them, the way a woman is. We upset their sense of alpha hierarchy. Every man knows that he can overpower a woman, whether society condones or condemns that act in whatever era and area you find yourself. A gay man is someone that can potentially overpower a str8 man and treat him the same way he could potentially treat a woman... I think therein lays the truth of why they hate us. Otherwise, you'd think they'd be relieved that we are not competing with them for a woman's attention.
I am perplexed at the level of religion that bears on your lives. If you must, check out Metropolitan Community Church. It's time religion becomes based on the acceptance of human reality.
Thank you for your comments. Faith and religion are two different things: Faith is God perceived with the heart whereas religion is how to overcome the world. We attend Life Journey Church and you can find their services on TH-cam and Facebook as well as their website. We will be covering more of our spiritual journey in upcoming videos.
you are handsome
Thank you. It’s nice that you think so. I hope your are a subscriber we have many more videos coming.
I will like to have a long conversation with you.
Como não sei falar inglês.Vejo o vídeo e depois passo para o tradutor.Para enteder o que você está relatando.Moro no Brasil .Estou torcendo para não ser nada 😢😞😞😞 grave . Acompanho 😁😃😃😃 várias vídeos Gays.Boa Sorte . Tchau 👋👋
Thank you for your sweet comments. It is wonderful to see people around the world making comments and liking the video.
Wow wonderful lovely smarter my favorite boy friend you likes enjoying with your body nice to see you superb
Heather was your wife and you all adopted the 2 girls Your ex was my sons teacher Mrs.Haskett
Yes and how funny how life goes. Thanks for your comment.
@@richandkevin6101 Glad you are happy now ..Our son Nicholas was born in January 2001 and not long after your first daughter
Good God Get A Grip... You waited until it was nice and easy then you finally came out. Your Bisexual...
I understand why your ex- Wife don't want to talk to you.
You lie to her and cheat her from start of your relationship and that is anforgiveblle.
Thank you for watching the video and the comments. Diversity is a wonderful thing.
@@richandkevin6101 I d' gree. But tell the truth and be honest is wondufollthing too. Stay healthy, I wish you good time
My prayer for you is that some day you can find an open spot in your heart to learn what homosexual people go through trying to fit in to "normal". Not one of the gay people I've known in my life set out to hurt anyone with deception of who they are.
Sorry! That prayer was meant for GO IG
@@carolking1502 apologie exeptet.
I pray too, a lot. For Children they have nothing to eat, nowhere to sleep and no one whone to take care of them.
4:30 The fact that you knew you were gay but you still pursued a marriage with a woman to cover your lack of courage. What about that woman? You never loved her as a man with passion. you were never in love with her. However she made it easier for you to go through a successful life. I said that because being gay is just one area of life. There are other bigger important areas at the end. Your wife helped you through those big areas. Where is she now?
My, you are full of projections and judgements aren’t you?
@@richandkevin6101 no man. I’ve been through the rough time of coming out. I had the chance of getting married and make it easier for family and friends. But I saw her and I thought it wouldn’t be fair to trick her into a situation for my benefit. I’m from South America and my family is Catholic conservative. I had to face a very difficult time. I could have had children and other blessings that come with marriage but I chose to fight it. I saw your video with open heart and mind. You did well but you have to admit she was there. Best wishes to you and your husband.
Because of what you guys did back then, we can be ourselves today. Your generation was brave.
Thank you very much. Have a great weekend and never stop being yourself.