Trying to build the best all-around ski for me. Although inefficient, it appears frame bindings are the right option for me. I want my ski to be able to go off into the side-country if the occasion arrises, but I love my downhill resort skiing, also minimal terrain park if I'm in the mood. Thank you for the information! If I decide I really like backcountry skiing from testing the waters in the side-country, I can build a backcountry ski :)
Hello, Thanks for your great video! I wonder if there is any binding size to look for in regard to the ski center size. For instance I've got a 82 vertical ski and wonder if all hybride bindings will fit (atomic shift or marker kingpin). Any idea? Thanks
Good question and you're right, nobody really 'needs' a DIN in the upper ends of 14 - 16. It's a tricky one. We'd never really recommend going above your recommended DIN rating, but some people like the redundancy of never looking a ski mid-run. We'd say those very high DIN ratings are resvered for the best of the best. The likes of Jeremie Heitz, who would be in big trouble if they were to loose a ski. I won't even get you started on the Look Pivot 18! (Alpine binding)
@@ActiveTravellerMagazine - 18! Must be near impossible to get them off your feet!? You wouldn’t want to be in a situation like at 3:19 here, th-cam.com/video/6rhk3Dmy54k/w-d-xo.html, where you need to kick a ski off.
@@Benzknees - It's funny you mention that video in particular, as Nikolai has 'locked out' his toe (as I mention in this video). This actually ramps up the release of the binding to a ridiculously high number (beyond 18). Nikolai has done this to ensure his ski doesn't release on the steep and exposed slope, as loosing a ski at the top would be deadly. The reason his skis are easy to remove is more thanks to the ease of stepping in/out of tech (pin) bindings. DIN values do not affect how easy/hard a binding is to get on or off (at least for touring bindings).
@@ActiveTravellerMagazine - Hadn’t noticed that, but I guess pin bindings do have some safety advantages in such extremes! But I’d have thought kicking off a normal binding against v.high spring tensions would be a lot more tricky?
@@Benzknees - Yeah, definitely more awkward than the much more simple toe leaver found on tech bindings. Many modern alpine binding heel units are made so that DIN does not affect the amount of pressure required to step in/out of the bindings. Afraid I don't pay too much attention to alpine bindings (always seem like the same binding every year!), so I've forgotten which ones have this feature.
The info I am looking for is that if I lock the heel and then release it again - does it also release the toe? I had ATK Race Aero and I hated the fact that in order to release the heel, you had the release the whole binding and then lock the toe again. Do the Shift hybrid bindings enable to release just the heel and keep the toe locked all the time unless I WANT to release it?
I'm afraid not. You'll have to remove your whole boot from the binding to 'shift' it into touring mode. This is one (slight) downside to hybrid touring bindings. If you're looking for a binding that lets you remove the heel while staying locked into the toe, then perhaps look at the Kingpin or Tecton. Although I'm not sure how much of a necessity this is in the real world. Cheers, Jordan
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Excellent. I now understand. There aren't many comprehensive videos of the sort. Thank you.
Great to hear Thomas! Let us know if there are any other specific videos you're looking for and we'll try to schedule them in.
Nice one! Lots of great info! 🔥
Cheers!
Could you please give some examples of hybrid bindings for intermediate skiers?? Thanks
Trying to build the best all-around ski for me. Although inefficient, it appears frame bindings are the right option for me. I want my ski to be able to go off into the side-country if the occasion arrises, but I love my downhill resort skiing, also minimal terrain park if I'm in the mood. Thank you for the information! If I decide I really like backcountry skiing from testing the waters in the side-country, I can build a backcountry ski :)
check out the CAST system
Thanks - so helpful.
No problem Tim. Glad it was of use!
Hello, Thanks for your great video!
I wonder if there is any binding size to look for in regard to the ski center size. For instance I've got a 82 vertical ski and wonder if all hybride bindings will fit (atomic shift or marker kingpin). Any idea? Thanks
14:41 what about length of your boot??
Don’t forget the fritschi tecton 12. best hybrid binding 😉
Who on earth would want a DIN of 16. I put in figures into a DIN calculator for a pro, of 95kg+, with a 271mm BSL and it only comes up with 12.
Good question and you're right, nobody really 'needs' a DIN in the upper ends of 14 - 16. It's a tricky one. We'd never really recommend going above your recommended DIN rating, but some people like the redundancy of never looking a ski mid-run.
We'd say those very high DIN ratings are resvered for the best of the best. The likes of Jeremie Heitz, who would be in big trouble if they were to loose a ski.
I won't even get you started on the Look Pivot 18! (Alpine binding)
@@ActiveTravellerMagazine - 18! Must be near impossible to get them off your feet!? You wouldn’t want to be in a situation like at 3:19 here, th-cam.com/video/6rhk3Dmy54k/w-d-xo.html, where you need to kick a ski off.
@@Benzknees - It's funny you mention that video in particular, as Nikolai has 'locked out' his toe (as I mention in this video). This actually ramps up the release of the binding to a ridiculously high number (beyond 18).
Nikolai has done this to ensure his ski doesn't release on the steep and exposed slope, as loosing a ski at the top would be deadly.
The reason his skis are easy to remove is more thanks to the ease of stepping in/out of tech (pin) bindings. DIN values do not affect how easy/hard a binding is to get on or off (at least for touring bindings).
@@ActiveTravellerMagazine - Hadn’t noticed that, but I guess pin bindings do have some safety advantages in such extremes! But I’d have thought kicking off a normal binding against v.high spring tensions would be a lot more tricky?
@@Benzknees - Yeah, definitely more awkward than the much more simple toe leaver found on tech bindings. Many modern alpine binding heel units are made so that DIN does not affect the amount of pressure required to step in/out of the bindings.
Afraid I don't pay too much attention to alpine bindings (always seem like the same binding every year!), so I've forgotten which ones have this feature.
The info I am looking for is that if I lock the heel and then release it again - does it also release the toe? I had ATK Race Aero and I hated the fact that in order to release the heel, you had the release the whole binding and then lock the toe again. Do the Shift hybrid bindings enable to release just the heel and keep the toe locked all the time unless I WANT to release it?
I'm afraid not. You'll have to remove your whole boot from the binding to 'shift' it into touring mode. This is one (slight) downside to hybrid touring bindings.
If you're looking for a binding that lets you remove the heel while staying locked into the toe, then perhaps look at the Kingpin or Tecton. Although I'm not sure how much of a necessity this is in the real world.
Cheers, Jordan
what would be so uncomfortable about using an alpine downhill boot if it's all fully open ?
Mainly the lack of walk mode. It's definitely doable - check out Jeremie in La Liste, I'm pretty sure he's doing all that in full on downhill boots!
Epic!
Cheers Shaun!
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