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Yep absolutely. No point talking about Gordon's roid usage, all the elites he fights are on steroids too. Gordon is just on a next level with his skills
@@rykehuss3435 lmao dumbasses will watch that last superfight and call gordon a roider but ignore that andres upper body is built like a brick shithouse that you ONLY get from nice tasty juice needle💉💉its just jealousy
@@rykehuss3435 bullshit it still needs to be brought up to not give false perspective to the reality on how to get this good. If they didn't work he wouldn't be using them don't cope about the fact he does.
@@tdali6095 You would be correct if someone below the elite level is seeking advice on what it takes to compete at the highest level... but, I don't think Rykehuss was talking about how Gordon got that good, or what it takes to get that good. He was talking about the elite level where everyone is most likely using steroids yet Gordon seems to excel over them. At that point the difference is skill. It reminds me of when Lance Armstrong was busted, 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place, etc. were also busted for steroids too.. Lance simply was better than them.
I've long wondered if "katas" with a dummy could be used to retain techniques over time, allowing for more tools to be kept in the tollbox for those who don't naturally have the memory that Gordon has. I doubt most practitioners remember all the techniques and details they've learned throughout the years.
High fight/grappling IQ, strategy, and very important = size/strength at 6'2'' he filled out his ectomorph frame very well. Long levers, when developed properly, are ideal and superior depending on the sport. Other details of his physicality that are overlooked: durability, physical training adaptability, and overall athletic instinct. These traits allowed him to survive and THRIVE years and years of grueling abuse and training day in and out. Many people would break, get seriously injured, or lose motivation to keep going. Guys like GR are one of a kind.
What allowed him to "survive and THRIVE years and years of grueling abuse and training day in and out" is the PEDs. Ryan himself said that he has sustained serious injuries over the years. If it wasn't for steroids, he wouldn't be able to recover as fast, nor train multiple times a day for 6 days a week at the intensity that he does. To be clear, I'm not taking anything away from him. But to neglect the elephant in the room is dishonest.
Rickson Gracie would do that in training and seminars. He would line up the best black belts in the jim and transite from their favorite submission position to submit them in that position. That’s another level of skill. But than again he was on born on a tatame
I've noticed this too about Ryan and his stellar defensive capabilities. What I struggle with isn't as much getting the tap when I'm in position, but getting out of a bad position. I feel like I'm trying to climb out of a muddy hole when I get one of my limbs isolated and I've always seen how the King almost never seems to let himself get in bad situations, and when he does he can seamlessly get out of them with what looks like no effort at all. Truly a case of the old saying "The best defense is a good offense"
I love how no one mentions or really cares about the use of a ton of steroids in grappling these days and it's just accepted as a unspoken reality. kind of funny and ridiculous but ultimately honest compared to all the other combat sports.
Derek, this is the doing of the promoters. I lived through the 90s “roid era” as a huge baseball fan. When someone gets as huge advantage and everyone realizes there are no consequences they have a decision. One, they can forego the dream they’ve devoted their life to, which is to be the best, not to “get good naturally”. OR, they can even the playing field again. The second choice is WRONG, let me be clear. But experience has taught us that this wrong choice is absolutely irresistible to top level competitors who have made their life about maximizing every advantage possible in pursuit of a goal. It’s like having a gorgeous escort for a maid and trying to keep away. Some things are not realistic. The promoters need to shut it down. Until then athletes need to make their choice, but only a special few will forego their dreams.
@@Tasmanaut there’s always exceptions when you’re a draw. Brock Lesnar, Jon Jones, Conor Mcgregor to name a few and yes how can we forget horse meat Overeem
Gordon Ryan is not comfortable with striking arts!! What many good grapplers don’t realize such as Kron Gracie for example, is that even though, he may be one of the best in the grappling world. He lost a decision against Cub. I agree with the first comment! How about mid tier first!!
Thats true ive seen Gordon Ryan in the rolling with a Crage Johns and he was under the full armbar but he was continue to fighting and then get his rear naked choke and win. That was amazing and he have a bravery 100%
@@ajgrant94 You should read my comment again. I didn't say there was a model. I said: It would be good to model his strategy for memorising. And I didn't say he didn't have a good memory. Hence why I would like to understand how he does it. That's the point of modeling the behaviour of succesful athletes and understanding what they do and how they think. There are strategies to memorising. Just because Ryan might not know how he does it, doesn't mean he doesn't use a strategy. Modelling of the strategy is done after the event. Having a natural ability/strategy means there is still a strategy. Some math teachers attach colours to numbers to help students (or themselves) visualise and memorise: that's a strategy. It's called colour-coding. And some people do it naturally. There are techniques, just like BJJ. Maybe it's as simple as devoting more time to memorising. But it would still be interesting to know instead of just saying, he's just got a good memory. Rajan Mahadevan who accurately recited 31,811 digits of pi from memory, and Hideaki Tomoyori who recited 40,000 digits weren't born with extraordinary memories. They have learned techniques for associating strings of digits with imaginary places or scenes in their minds. These are strategies that can be modeled.
There are strategies that can be modeled, but some people are just born with amazing memories. I have a few in my own family. They just remember shit, no strategies. It's sometimes even a bit of a curse because they can't turn it off and they remember all the nasty/traumatic stuff perfectly, forever.
@@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 like one of the bad ass smart dudes you can't kill until the last episode if even, or someone the king or queen knows is way more capable than them but they are grateful to have them on their counsel
He is like the guy who comes up with strategies to beat the shit out of the enemy Really interesting person He is really a master of bjj who gives away his knowledge to his students
Everyone asking about steroids insinuating that steroids are the reason for success. First off, steroids are not prohibited in submission grappling. There are no rules governing their use in grappling. Athletes are not tested. Absolutely everyone is using them. Everyone. Technique, dedication, hard work, and guts make winners. If all you had to do was take steroids everyone would look like Gordon and Andre and have their accomplishments too.
Exactly. If they are all allowed to do it, how does it give Gordon a distinct and unique advantage over his competition? Well, it doesn’t, because they are all on the gear yet Gordon manages to surpass his opposition with relative ease.
That’s so smart to put yourself in the worst positions possible during training. Trying to figure out how to apply that to other sports like basketball 🤔
To me it sounds a lot like a chess Grandmaster. Theyre just simply smarter than everyone else. Their memory kicks ass and their desire to win is unmatched
He’s big and not natty for sure but so are many others and that translates into why the second best jiu jitsu athlete in the world doesn’t have his type of record (no gi). There’s a huge gap between #1 and #2.
He looks like the evil guy from minions more and more every day Edit: oh thought you were talking about JD. Ryan looks like a 12 year old designed a WWE wrestler.
I know that a lot of people hate on Gordon Ryan and I understand why he gets so defensive, but I wish he would just ignore the haters because when he claps back it seems petty and beneath him
And yet that’s the reason why he’s so popular. I get it. But he’s made his name on that and his successes. Without one or the other he wouldn’t be as well known. Go figure.
it also helps that he has "additional help" which people say shouldn't overshadow his work ethic but if you have a work ethic that is greater than a normal human being, then does that additional help now be considered ethically immoral since you are now indeed biologically greater than a normal human being, in this instance you've reached beyond your biological limits?
Many things that have to be there to be a elite fighter and if there not there from the start a wouldn’t waste your time when there’s others out there like this fighting is not a game you will get hurt.
Would Lex come right out and ask them to their face about the S word? (Clearly they all take them - also, I wouldn’t have the balls to ask them that to their face)
Its Kind of one of the reasons but its like kickboxing all top guys are juiced, theres very little testing. Its like wen they caught Lance armstrong on roids, you know that the race thry caught him on the first 17 Places were on juice amd lost there placing? with that in mind you cant say “its all ped’s”
I’m 5-7 pro bodybuilder , 58’yrs 250 pounds and juiced to the kills but I work my ass off while everyone sit s on their asses playing with their phones
@@MikeyLopez that’s a cop out. Hyper-responders are real. Having a chemist or pharmacology expert running your cycles also helps immensely. Ryan is a hyper-responder and probably has an expert crafting his cycles. Not everyone at ADCC has that combo.
@@MikeyLopez gives a false perseption to the crowed and fans.....(more so younger ones i think adults with half a brain can look at his before/after and easily tell he is jucied out of his fucking mind)
@@WhenIWasYounggg If Gordon is a hyper-responder to PEDs genetically...why does it matter(even though you have no proof of this)? Are you saying it's not fair to the other competitors? That's like saying not everyone in the NBA has LeBron's genetics. Yeah, even if that's true - then it literally means nothing.
@@WhenIWasYounggg its definitely not a cop out it's a basic fact that's why no one presses the issue and its allowed by other competitors couse they're on the shit too lmao
I've liked this guy ever since the Joe Rogan podcast I like his mindset on sports psychology, and I also remember him being a position over submission guy( old school BJJ philosophy) which I'm all about.
I mean the whole point about bad positions goes back to life and white belt no? Surviving in bad positions, usually on the bottom… it’s all rooted in the basic principles of BJJ?
@@chaosdweller Hate to break it to yeah but literally anyone can learn those moves......shit give me the same ammount of time he has been doing it and yeah....i could learn the moves like anyone else has......i just wouldn't have the strength he does cause i refuse to poison my body with roids.....i also like how you didn't try to defend him and say he was natty lmfao....he is clearly on juice
@@Shifty51991 actually....I don't defend him cuz of me implying it doesn't matter cuz they don't test that's why I'm not..... actually lmao! .... also I almost GURANTEE I'm stronger than him with or without juice (better total overall) lol! ....it's funny and fascinating seeing all these people being insecure about there strength levels here? haha , in a sport that doesn't test at the top lol!
Juice doesn't make you a world class black belt lol. I'm on cycle right now but I don't have any super powers and still have to work my ass off and eat right to look the way I do. You don't just magically look like Ryan does, he has worked his ass off to get a physique and skill set like he has. Kind of like how steroids doesn't make a baseball player hit any better. Makes you stronger, sure, but you still have to be able to hit major league pitching though.
Do steroids contribute even nominally to his performance??? Ask yourself this... I would love to see an usada type organization governing ibjjf and adcc tournaments.
I just wanna see gordon vs dagestani grappler. Because all dagestan mma destroy top bjj in ufc. Islam makachev easily destroy state champion in sparring. Their wrestling and grappling was another level even they trained all styles.
Is it just me or is. Younger John Danaher back from the past to interview his current self? Take the hair off of the interviewer and it’s John Danaher existing in two different dimensions simultaneously.
Doesnt matter if he is on steroids Because literally everyone who compet in Adcc take steroids Its not like he have an avantage on them because they all get to take it to
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Everyone at ADCC is on roids. The playing field is level. He is just better than everyone else
💯 correct
Yep absolutely. No point talking about Gordon's roid usage, all the elites he fights are on steroids too. Gordon is just on a next level with his skills
@@rykehuss3435 lmao dumbasses will watch that last superfight and call gordon a roider but ignore that andres upper body is built like a brick shithouse that you ONLY get from nice tasty juice needle💉💉its just jealousy
@@rykehuss3435 bullshit it still needs to be brought up to not give false perspective to the reality on how to get this good. If they didn't work he wouldn't be using them don't cope about the fact he does.
@@tdali6095 You would be correct if someone below the elite level is seeking advice on what it takes to compete at the highest level... but, I don't think Rykehuss was talking about how Gordon got that good, or what it takes to get that good. He was talking about the elite level where everyone is most likely using steroids yet Gordon seems to excel over them. At that point the difference is skill. It reminds me of when Lance Armstrong was busted, 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place, etc. were also busted for steroids too.. Lance simply was better than them.
I just listen to this as I fall asleep for the positive affirmations lol
😂
I've long wondered if "katas" with a dummy could be used to retain techniques over time, allowing for more tools to be kept in the tollbox for those who don't naturally have the memory that Gordon has. I doubt most practitioners remember all the techniques and details they've learned throughout the years.
So many techniques are drilled too briefly to be retained over time. And certainly not with any level of mastery or fluidity.
I watched the episode yesterday 🎉 it’s really good thanks lex for your effort
Lex taking notes for his new G. Ryan 2.0 implant 😂
He had the biggest boner listening to John explain Gordon hating himself for not being perfect lmao
High fight/grappling IQ, strategy, and very important = size/strength at 6'2'' he filled out his ectomorph frame very well. Long levers, when developed properly, are ideal and superior depending on the sport.
Other details of his physicality that are overlooked: durability, physical training adaptability, and overall athletic instinct. These traits allowed him to survive and THRIVE years and years of grueling abuse and training day in and out. Many people would break, get seriously injured, or lose motivation to keep going. Guys like GR are one of a kind.
@@robbb-we7uj who cares there is no governing body that tests for that in Jui Jitsu. You think he’s the only one. It’s a level playing field.
@@robbb-we7uj steroids don't teach techniques. Even if he is on the roids the shit he does remains very impressive.
@@robbb-we7uj of course! that too!
@@frankmitchell1246 ADCC dont test. Craig Jones confirmed it.
What allowed him to "survive and THRIVE years and years of grueling abuse and training day in and out" is the PEDs. Ryan himself said that he has sustained serious injuries over the years. If it wasn't for steroids, he wouldn't be able to recover as fast, nor train multiple times a day for 6 days a week at the intensity that he does.
To be clear, I'm not taking anything away from him. But to neglect the elephant in the room is dishonest.
That was worth watching two three times. Profound break down.
Lex is taking notes… what a stud. Big respect 🖤🖤🖤
Rickson Gracie would do that in training and seminars. He would line up the best black belts in the jim and transite from their favorite submission position to submit them in that position. That’s another level of skill. But than again he was on born on a tatame
I've noticed this too about Ryan and his stellar defensive capabilities. What I struggle with isn't as much getting the tap when I'm in position, but getting out of a bad position. I feel like I'm trying to climb out of a muddy hole when I get one of my limbs isolated and I've always seen how the King almost never seems to let himself get in bad situations, and when he does he can seamlessly get out of them with what looks like no effort at all. Truly a case of the old saying "The best defense is a good offense"
Almost seems like it's more a case of "An impenetrable defense makes for an unstoppable offense"
Bingo.@@truejohnsolo
I love how no one mentions or really cares about the use of a ton of steroids in grappling these days and it's just accepted as a unspoken reality. kind of funny and ridiculous but ultimately honest compared to all the other combat sports.
It's because they are a bunch of hypocrites
Derek, this is the doing of the promoters. I lived through the 90s “roid era” as a huge baseball fan. When someone gets as huge advantage and everyone realizes there are no consequences they have a decision. One, they can forego the dream they’ve devoted their life to, which is to be the best, not to “get good naturally”. OR, they can even the playing field again. The second choice is WRONG, let me be clear. But experience has taught us that this wrong choice is absolutely irresistible to top level competitors who have made their life about maximizing every advantage possible in pursuit of a goal. It’s like having a gorgeous escort for a maid and trying to keep away. Some things are not realistic. The promoters need to shut it down. Until then athletes need to make their choice, but only a special few will forego their dreams.
why does it matter?
What about all those roid heads that SUCKED!! We don’t talk about them do we.
@@AlligatorTrader96 I'm saying it's kind of cool that It doesn't matter.
To think one of the greatest bjj instructors in the world is from little old New Zealand 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
True that cuz
Only good thing to come out of new zealand
I’d love to see how he would do at the top level of MMA. It would be interesting
How Bout at the mid level first
he's on roids so he couldn't compete.
@@Tasmanaut there’s always exceptions when you’re a draw. Brock Lesnar, Jon Jones, Conor Mcgregor to name a few and yes how can we forget horse meat Overeem
Gordon Ryan is not comfortable with striking arts!! What many good grapplers don’t realize such as Kron Gracie for example, is that even though, he may be one of the best in the grappling world. He lost a decision against Cub. I agree with the first comment! How about mid tier first!!
@@Tasmanaut nah he could fight 100% Usman Jon Jones Adesanya they all take stuff
love the scuba dive suit!
John is a savant. And so is Gordon. SCARY COMBO.
They're like Aristotle and Alexander ^^
@@andreagrazianodibenedetto1464 WELL PUT!
Thats true ive seen Gordon Ryan in the rolling with a Crage Johns and he was under the full armbar but he was continue to fighting and then get his rear naked choke and win. That was amazing and he have a bravery 100%
Danaher is like a butler out of a comic book who also happens to be a total badass
It would be interesting to know (or model) how Ryan actually memorises what is being taught. His process of imprinting.
@@ajgrant94 You should read my comment again. I didn't say there was a model. I said: It would be good to model his strategy for memorising. And I didn't say he didn't have a good memory. Hence why I would like to understand how he does it. That's the point of modeling the behaviour of succesful athletes and understanding what they do and how they think. There are strategies to memorising. Just because Ryan might not know how he does it, doesn't mean he doesn't use a strategy. Modelling of the strategy is done after the event. Having a natural ability/strategy means there is still a strategy. Some math teachers attach colours to numbers to help students (or themselves) visualise and memorise: that's a strategy. It's called colour-coding. And some people do it naturally. There are techniques, just like BJJ. Maybe it's as simple as devoting more time to memorising. But it would still be interesting to know instead of just saying, he's just got a good memory. Rajan Mahadevan who accurately recited 31,811 digits of pi from memory, and Hideaki Tomoyori who recited 40,000 digits weren't born with extraordinary memories. They have learned techniques for associating strings of digits with imaginary places or scenes in their minds.
These are strategies that can be modeled.
There are strategies that can be modeled, but some people are just born with amazing memories. I have a few in my own family. They just remember shit, no strategies. It's sometimes even a bit of a curse because they can't turn it off and they remember all the nasty/traumatic stuff perfectly, forever.
John forgot to mention Gordon's ability to constantly piss all the colours of the rainbow
😂
Lex explains in his Thumbnail. JUICE.
Who, from the thumbnail, does not think Gordon Ryan is juiced out of his mind?
He's on creatine, not steroids.
Who cares??
@@FlowithdaGo come on now.
that thumbnail pic is photoshopped
@@borz55 why would they photoshop it?
He didn't mention Ryan's strength and conditioning which is also a factor.
I dont think so anyone can get "fit" 🤣
John Danaher is like a war dude from game of thrones except in modern times.
Whose war dude?
@@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 like one of the bad ass smart dudes you can't kill until the last episode if even, or someone the king or queen knows is way more capable than them but they are grateful to have them on their counsel
He is like the guy who comes up with strategies to beat the shit out of the enemy
Really interesting person
He is really a master of bjj who gives away his knowledge to his students
@@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 You never heard of War Dude from GoT? Probably the sickest character, brah.
Everyone asking about steroids insinuating that steroids are the reason for success. First off, steroids are not prohibited in submission grappling. There are no rules governing their use in grappling. Athletes are not tested. Absolutely everyone is using them. Everyone. Technique, dedication, hard work, and guts make winners. If all you had to do was take steroids everyone would look like Gordon and Andre and have their accomplishments too.
Exactly. If they are all allowed to do it, how does it give Gordon a distinct and unique advantage over his competition? Well, it doesn’t, because they are all on the gear yet Gordon manages to surpass his opposition with relative ease.
The real CEO of EPO
Incredibly insightful ❤
He's intelligent, strong, and athletic. Probably the type of guy that does everything well.
Dickriding harrddddd
That’s so smart to put yourself in the worst positions possible during training. Trying to figure out how to apply that to other sports like basketball 🤔
I love listening to John talk about BJJ
I wonder if the gear has any influence.
everyone competing in bjj is on gear
The Magnus Carlson of Jui Jitsu
To me it sounds a lot like a chess Grandmaster. Theyre just simply smarter than everyone else. Their memory kicks ass and their desire to win is unmatched
2:24 wow
So its basically Talent
He got Talent and has done something out of it
Performance enhancing donuts
"If Gordon sees an inch of your bag..." lmao
Can’t deny the skill
Can’t deny the chemicals either
He’s big and not natty for sure but so are many others and that translates into why the second best jiu jitsu athlete in the world doesn’t have his type of record (no gi). There’s a huge gap between #1 and #2.
I'm loving his look here lately, he's the first BJJ athlete that I've seen that actually " looks " scary haha nice .
He looks like the evil guy from minions more and more every day
Edit: oh thought you were talking about JD. Ryan looks like a 12 year old designed a WWE wrestler.
He's looked like this since a long time ago, what are you on about?
@@noamto nah he just recently changed his look, what’s ur problem? Ur a weirdo lmao
@@kylewade8704 problem is you lying. He didn't change his look lately.
@@noamto ya just recently he changed it, u can watch all his video on it when u get a chance, sorry
TRT plus a blilliant mind and excellent technique.
Juice Jitsu
I like the 5th Element too. Mila Jovovich is awesome
Why does he always wear rash guards?
He is basically the IVAN DRAGO of Grappling. Pumped full of the best juice money can buy.
He absolutely thrashed andre galvao who is juicy as fuck and you think the reason he wins is just steroids?
Id use juice as a reason but its like kickboxing theres little to no testing, most top guys are juiced to the gills
I know that a lot of people hate on Gordon Ryan and I understand why he gets so defensive, but I wish he would just ignore the haters because when he claps back it seems petty and beneath him
And yet that’s the reason why he’s so popular. I get it. But he’s made his name on that and his successes. Without one or the other he wouldn’t be as well known. Go figure.
@@vitaly6312 yeah I guess you’re right
it also helps that he has "additional help" which people say shouldn't overshadow his work ethic but if you have a work ethic that is greater than a normal human being, then does that additional help now be considered ethically immoral since you are now indeed biologically greater than a normal human being, in this instance you've reached beyond your biological limits?
What are you talking about PED'S?
Word that's what's up. I can identify for sure in my own way. Fascinating.
Many things that have to be there to be a elite fighter and if there not there from the start a wouldn’t waste your time when there’s others out there like this fighting is not a game you will get hurt.
Startrek does bjj?
Would Lex come right out and ask them to their face about the S word? (Clearly they all take them - also, I wouldn’t have the balls to ask them that to their face)
That's a sport where they all do it though (no testing) haha, so what's the point? really haha.
@@chaosdweller Do they all do it? you know this for certain?
All sportsman are juicing im just not bothered anymore!! #letThemjuice
@@amanrob again I'm aware they don't test in the super bowl of tournaments ....so.....
@@chaosdweller so.... you're making a broad generalization, and essentially using that generalization to justify what is basically cheating.
Lex was like 'let me write this shid down'.
commitment.
John's ability to refine technique + Steroids + Work ethic + Nat
why is he wearing a rash guard ?
Crazy hows hes literally wearing a rash guard
As the grandmaster helio gracie taught, defend escape control submit. In that order and you will fear no man.
Why Izzy Adesanya isn't training BJJ with this weapon of a Kiwi i will never know.
Excellent comment
It's easy. The guy bangs supraphysiological doses of chicken, rice and broccoli. We can all do it.
take a shot every time Lex says "human", as if he weren't one himself lol
Gordon PED is helluva drug
Its Kind of one of the reasons but its like kickboxing all top guys are juiced, theres very little testing. Its like wen they caught Lance armstrong on roids, you know that the race thry caught him on the first 17 Places were on juice amd lost there placing? with that in mind you cant say “its all ped’s”
I’m 5-7 pro bodybuilder , 58’yrs 250 pounds and juiced to the kills but I work my ass off while everyone sit s on their asses playing with their phones
@@CaseyKCRichards you are gonna die young just so you could look good because you don't have enough personality to get laid without it
Lex frantically taking notes… dude you’re recording this… no need to be frantically writing.
I think he is writing the next’s questions
Why won't he do mma
Lex is taking notes... Are we...
How much gear is he on?
I would hazard a guess and say, if my horse took the same amount it would win the Kentucky Derby.
We shouldn’t interview Danaher or Ryan without asking about steroids.
when everyone is on steriods nobody is on steriods
@@MikeyLopez that’s a cop out. Hyper-responders are real. Having a chemist or pharmacology expert running your cycles also helps immensely. Ryan is a hyper-responder and probably has an expert crafting his cycles. Not everyone at ADCC has that combo.
@@MikeyLopez gives a false perseption to the crowed and fans.....(more so younger ones i think adults with half a brain can look at his before/after and easily tell he is jucied out of his fucking mind)
@@WhenIWasYounggg If Gordon is a hyper-responder to PEDs genetically...why does it matter(even though you have no proof of this)? Are you saying it's not fair to the other competitors?
That's like saying not everyone in the NBA has LeBron's genetics. Yeah, even if that's true - then it literally means nothing.
@@WhenIWasYounggg its definitely not a cop out it's a basic fact that's why no one presses the issue and its allowed by other competitors couse they're on the shit too lmao
Why's that guy writing down when there's literally film.This is not a Hollywood scene guys.
I've liked this guy ever since the Joe Rogan podcast I like his mindset on sports psychology, and I also remember him being a position over submission guy( old school BJJ philosophy) which I'm all about.
Actually, no. He's "position should lead to submission" guy
@@stancoleman8239 that's all BJJ bruh lmao!
@@stancoleman8239 are u partial to someone? who just tapped or got beat in combat jujitsu or something? Lmao! !?
@@chaosdweller nah, I competed in UWW a lot and I've seen a lot of guys who just takes position and do nothing after that till match ends
@@stancoleman8239 I'm more into combat jujitsu and MMA grappling, and that's all that matters to me haha.
“The reason why most people lack confidence is because they fear bad outcomes”
Just try use usada rules in bjj competition we will see the diffrence🤣
I mean the whole point about bad positions goes back to life and white belt no? Surviving in bad positions, usually on the bottom… it’s all rooted in the basic principles of BJJ?
Jiu jitsu is chess in real life. Gordon is a grandmaster.
Definitely not the roids
definitely 😂
Yeah since roids automatically hammer grappling skills into your brain. So unfair.
GENETICS
Brain genes too yes probably , after all fighting is a thinking man's game ESPECIALLY BJJ.
na roids
@@Shifty51991 that has nothing to do with remembering and knowing moves though LMAO! ....u alright?
@@chaosdweller Hate to break it to yeah but literally anyone can learn those moves......shit give me the same ammount of time he has been doing it and yeah....i could learn the moves like anyone else has......i just wouldn't have the strength he does cause i refuse to poison my body with roids.....i also like how you didn't try to defend him and say he was natty lmfao....he is clearly on juice
@@Shifty51991 actually....I don't defend him cuz of me implying it doesn't matter cuz they don't test that's why I'm not..... actually lmao! .... also I almost GURANTEE I'm stronger than him with or without juice (better total overall) lol! ....it's funny and fascinating seeing all these people being insecure about there strength levels here? haha , in a sport that doesn't test at the top lol!
Amazing
So solid memory makes you bestbin this sport ?
John Danaher is kind of cool :) i hope hes a good man
Fuck knowledge retention, I just want those Sonny bodybuilding ‘roids contacts
The life lessons
Danaher reminds me of Prometheus
1:24 Lex completing his doodle
He happens to be an extremely gifted athlete that is juiced to the fuckin gills.
Who the fuck isn't dude
what is your point? All the elite grapples are! Do you think you will have better technique as a result of taking roids? You have no clue....
Where are the gills? And how do I get some?
@@skydaddy2426 back alley behind kroger
Juice doesn't make you a world class black belt lol. I'm on cycle right now but I don't have any super powers and still have to work my ass off and eat right to look the way I do. You don't just magically look like Ryan does, he has worked his ass off to get a physique and skill set like he has. Kind of like how steroids doesn't make a baseball player hit any better. Makes you stronger, sure, but you still have to be able to hit major league pitching though.
He is also on tons of steroids
They all are
@@vvvvvvvvvvvvvv1819 no doubt
If all his competitors are its irrelevant.
True but lots of guys are and there aren’t other Gordon Ryan’s you know
I doubt it. Has he ever been caught? I think it has to do with his nutrition. His diet must be excellent.
Eugene and John talk very similar lol kiwis
Gordon's main asset is his strength, he would lock in a dominant position and never let go of it, similar to khabib.
Am I still the only one that thinks BJJ is overrated? Like i found Judo to be more effective like legit
Short answer is roids.
Do steroids contribute even nominally to his performance??? Ask yourself this... I would love to see an usada type organization governing ibjjf and adcc tournaments.
Must be nice to be rich and have the ability to focus on nothing else but what you love
Sounds like an islander but I hear some South African in that accent of JD
When you mix skill with PEDs…
I just wanna see gordon vs dagestani grappler. Because all dagestan mma destroy top bjj in ufc. Islam makachev easily destroy state champion in sparring. Their wrestling and grappling was another level even they trained all styles.
And a lot of money to get the best drugs on the business.
Is it just me or is. Younger John Danaher back from the past to interview his current self? Take the hair off of the interviewer and it’s John Danaher existing in two different dimensions simultaneously.
but can he beat a gorilla, a bear or a lion?
if u can`t be a genius.. just act like one !
As the great Nate Diaz said: everybody's on steroids
So the game is even, all same level. It's just Gordon is better
Doesnt matter if he is on steroids
Because literally everyone who compet in Adcc take steroids
Its not like he have an avantage on them because they all get to take it to
He has better juice than everyone else