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  • @LexClips
    @LexClips  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Full podcast episode: th-cam.com/video/iZRbD7q1n-U/w-d-xo.html
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    Guest bio: John Danaher is one of the greatest coaches and minds in martial arts history.

  • @mm111303
    @mm111303 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    John Danaher is a fascinating person to listen to, not to mention a true gentleman. Love Lex’s exchanges with him and I look forward to many more.

  • @flanker909
    @flanker909 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    "Andre fought bravely, but a strangle does not care how brave you are." - John Danaher.

    • @everythingwillbeokkkk
      @everythingwillbeokkkk ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s not what he said?
      He said that with strangles “it doesn’t matter how brave you are”.

  • @raulnavarrete692
    @raulnavarrete692 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I would pay to watch 2 cops try and detain Gordon Ryan without weapons

    • @ericcoplen3099
      @ericcoplen3099 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’ve watched my black belt train with two officers that train with us, took their practice gun from them and they couldn’t stop him. It would take at least 5!

    • @andrewrai5752
      @andrewrai5752 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Depend if they know how to strike! Two cops who know a bit of grappling but can box will finish Gordon or for that matter anyone else. BJJ, wrestling and most other martial arts teaches you how to fight against 1 person, when you change that equation then the martial art becomes nullified mostly

    • @ohurley11
      @ohurley11 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@andrewrai5752 100%. Have fun taking someone down with another guy kicking you in the head lol...

    • @jerrymorelos6397
      @jerrymorelos6397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two would be extremely easy.

    • @davidf2244
      @davidf2244 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewrai5752 doubtful. Without weapons, I see Gordon targeting one of them, tearing their knee in half in half a second, and then tackling the other one.

  • @Talos353
    @Talos353 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    the steroid use in BJJ is just comical at this point

    • @leozabo7251
      @leozabo7251 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Couldn’t of said it any better

    • @abk5294
      @abk5294 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Its great

    • @lennieleng9679
      @lennieleng9679 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Nothing wrong with going SSJ

    • @SenorGrandePP
      @SenorGrandePP ปีที่แล้ว +44

      They are the only vitamins that work 💊

    • @emceesupremejustice
      @emceesupremejustice ปีที่แล้ว +36

      no one cares lmao

  • @heartsky
    @heartsky ปีที่แล้ว +10

    An extremely careful and exact person with his thinking and speech, and full of good will.

  • @sharqway
    @sharqway ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "A strangle it doesn't matter how brave you are." - John Danaher.

  • @djredrover
    @djredrover ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Lex, you literally fast-forwarded all the best parts of the match. Thanks for that :D. I was curious to hear Johns thoughts on the 1-2 min prior to Gordon trapping his arm from the back.

    • @djredrover
      @djredrover ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And you didn't show the part where they hug and talk to each other after the match.

  • @wandersondeoliveira211
    @wandersondeoliveira211 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John is by far one of the best instructors to have ever walked on this planet.

  • @pvtparts90
    @pvtparts90 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my absolute favorite things that Danaher does in interviews is when he is asked a question and then asks for the question to be made more specific and clear. I'm not sure why... And it also just seems like something I never see anyone else do.

  • @rickywoods3101
    @rickywoods3101 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was able to roll with a really high level guy and start from his back , I was able to get the rear naked choke but I couldn't finish him! I literally had a full locked it rear naked choke and held it for a minute or more and still didn't finish . He escaped and destroyed me. I have no idea how he didn't go out !

    • @rikkyhernandez6511
      @rikkyhernandez6511 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That’s something nobody really talks about either. You gotta be really strong as well as technical to finish even the most simplistic moves on an experienced grappler. I remember my first class of jiu jitsu and how surprising it was to hold my feet together in full guard. Takes a lot of strength and practices It’s things like that you overlook

    • @josephwatson7232
      @josephwatson7232 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your elbow probably wasn’t aligned with their chin. It should be relatively easy if you’re doing to right

    • @josephwatson7232
      @josephwatson7232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rikkyhernandez6511 you’re probably just doing things wrong and using the wrong muscles. In chokes it’s not a how hard can you pull with biceps it’s making their neck carry your weight and using your hands to hold it in place. If you squeeze with muscle you’ll gas out

    • @rickywoods3101
      @rickywoods3101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephwatson7232 I had It aligned and sucked in tight, that's what is weird

    • @rickywoods3101
      @rickywoods3101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rikkyhernandez6511 true, but I'm actually 230 lbs and been body building for over 15 years .

  • @joshuagould548
    @joshuagould548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a love about BJJ, apart from MMA or striking sports, is that there's no puncher's chance. In MMA or striking, there's always a puncher's chance. No boxer, or MMA fighter, should underestimate their opponent too much. One slip up and you'll get Buster Douglas'ed. But in BJJ, assuming things are being taken seriously, the less skilled grappler basically can't win. That's what John was essentially saying here. Gordon Ryan couldn't lose, Andre's defeat was impending, inevitably.

  • @jsdevtom
    @jsdevtom ปีที่แล้ว +34

    A true testiment to Gordon's superior reign.

    • @jleos0095
      @jleos0095 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And it’s also worth mentioning his superior steroid cycle.

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@jleos0095 the heavyweights are all on it.

    • @TheTykus
      @TheTykus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jleos0095 Does the other guy not do the roids?

    • @thepineappleexpress2127
      @thepineappleexpress2127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      andre is 40yo

    • @MrDayday4641
      @MrDayday4641 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love how grown men talk about Gordon Ryan like teenage girls talked about NSYNC! 🤣😂🤣

  • @cbaldridge24
    @cbaldridge24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why isn’t this episode showing up in Spotify?

  • @mikerewarner
    @mikerewarner ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did I watch the 57 minute clip too? Yeah.

  • @MrHamncheez
    @MrHamncheez ปีที่แล้ว +7

    shout out to FloGrappling, great production, great coverage, great streaming quality

  • @teeballpaul
    @teeballpaul ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s funny how mma coaches say “there’s no way my fighter can get finished.” This is usually bravado bullshit. But when Danaher says “there’s no way Gordon can get finished” it’s the unequivocal truth.

  • @intikhabkhan3466
    @intikhabkhan3466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Danaher is so cool and calm Mr Friedman too

  • @Stm-ij8wi
    @Stm-ij8wi ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The question is, how good would Gordon be if he had never met John?

    • @Jakelol1980
      @Jakelol1980 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not as good that for sure. Maybe top 100 or something like that.

    • @JDP000109
      @JDP000109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gordon has literally said he’ll retire if he loses John

    • @stevend481
      @stevend481 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      John has taught hundreds of people but there's only 1 Gordon! Gordon is special. He has genius fight IQ, fast learner, perfectionist, strong...everything

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was it simply dumb luck they met? Or does showing extraordinary potential lead to meeting the relevant people in one way or another. Would most of us be talking about John here now without Gordon? 🤔

    • @JDP000109
      @JDP000109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erenjaegerbomb8653 john also coached GSP so we would definitely be talking about him lol. Not as much though

  • @jbmoulin15
    @jbmoulin15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gordon Ryan’s jiu jitsu is so amazing and an entertaining watch, shame he caries on like he does though. But it was so good to see the respect from after the match, good on him for that

    • @jbmoulin15
      @jbmoulin15 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andre seems like the nicest guy too

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He never means it, and look at how many fans it has brought in. Mission accomplished

  • @negringo4470
    @negringo4470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Lex !

  • @mustaphad1319
    @mustaphad1319 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Did Danaher really just say if he goes to the ground in a bjj match he will lose?

    • @UrsoJake
      @UrsoJake ปีที่แล้ว +8

      he said it respectfully and in 500 words 😂🤣🤣

    • @israelsrealm
      @israelsrealm ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ADCC isn't limited to BJJ. It's grappling, which includes standing.

  • @RMichaelHimself
    @RMichaelHimself ปีที่แล้ว

    This is premiere TH-cam content right here

  • @urbansamurai261
    @urbansamurai261 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For all the guys talking about steroid use this was the first adcc to have a teenage champion and the first to have 2 teens in the finals

    • @Brascobadboy
      @Brascobadboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juice and youth are lethal

  • @john_smithchiropractor3931
    @john_smithchiropractor3931 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Does Danaher wear regular clothes?

    • @abk5294
      @abk5294 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What's more normal then a rashguard and fanny pack

    • @nuitarix8160
      @nuitarix8160 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      According to Gordan, no. Rashguards 24/7. Even busts out a fancy one for a date...lol

    • @bobadicious
      @bobadicious ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

    • @margaretpritchet
      @margaretpritchet ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nuitarix8160 great rogan episode

    • @nuitarix8160
      @nuitarix8160 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@margaretpritchet lol yup

  • @drought9359
    @drought9359 ปีที่แล้ว

    New to BJJ this is beautiful watching 🔥

  • @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733
    @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There are not many bad arse conversations but this is definitely a bad arse conversation. Stone cold.

  • @keithhere5292
    @keithhere5292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i rolled shirtless on those mats after that match and within a few weeks i had gained 7 lbs of lean mass?

  • @dhl671
    @dhl671 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very curious of Danaher’s opinion on Gordon Ryan’s steroid use.

    • @efwefwerrrrr
      @efwefwerrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He used to use too

    • @dhl671
      @dhl671 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@efwefwerrrrr Danaher did?
      Seems unlikely as he comes off as very straight and clean.

    • @efwefwerrrrr
      @efwefwerrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dhl671 yes when he was a young guy

    • @hamzasehavdic
      @hamzasehavdic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dhl671 straight and clean? definitely not
      obsessed about being optimal no matter the cost, absolutely

    • @tornaclconor5149
      @tornaclconor5149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you know anything about BJJ you know that everybody at the world class level is using steroids. If Gordon wasn't using he'd be the only one.

  • @MercedesSLSJpak
    @MercedesSLSJpak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just like the good ol Pride days, ceremony, savagery, and SAUCE! Wish mma was still an ounce as cool as this

  • @to8860
    @to8860 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff!!

  • @SofienLetaief
    @SofienLetaief ปีที่แล้ว

    Super Breakdown =)

  • @SimonPhoenix2022
    @SimonPhoenix2022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is he wearing a rash guard?

  • @jeffm9204
    @jeffm9204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What laptop is he using? Thanks for the help.

    • @LC2460
      @LC2460 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      WeenieX500

  • @steveb9525
    @steveb9525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow incredible

  • @adamdunbar8260
    @adamdunbar8260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danaher is the teacher you feared the most but learned the most from because he never accepted easy bs answers and challenged you.

  • @anthonymagnotta3428
    @anthonymagnotta3428 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say what you want about Gordon… he really does respect the game and legends like Andre Galvao…

  • @kunited9
    @kunited9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bjj its like a deal with the devil where you sacrifice your ears in exchange foe knowing how to grapple

  • @FR-ty5vn
    @FR-ty5vn ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @Arguhhh
    @Arguhhh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy ryans head is getting bigger lmao hes on some real heavy stuff 😂😂😂

  • @JamesKyujin
    @JamesKyujin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These two are like father and son as to monotonous

  • @julythrunov
    @julythrunov ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Andre fought very bravely”
    ☠️

  • @bbnazir
    @bbnazir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is Danaher seeing the screen? Is it a TV, projector how??

  • @cootha8631
    @cootha8631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the end of the day it's a 40 year old vs 27 year old.

  • @slapshotbigmac822
    @slapshotbigmac822 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Talos353 you’ve never worked this hard in your life

  • @kee7678
    @kee7678 ปีที่แล้ว

    King Gordon. GOAT

  • @MrBasjunk
    @MrBasjunk ปีที่แล้ว

    No doubt that Gordon Ryan is the best in the world by far. But I guess everybody can be submitted at some point….but it’s true nobody thought or believed that Galvao could win this match.

    • @suvratpandit5701
      @suvratpandit5701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. But it's gonna be a long ass time before Gordon gets submitted. Can't believe he's so far ahead of his competitors in terms of skill , it's ridiculous.

  • @vincecapri1
    @vincecapri1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Question?? Whos is chained up in John Danaher basement? Gives me that creepy vibe!!!

  • @seanmiller7889
    @seanmiller7889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🐐

  • @mattvalentine9201
    @mattvalentine9201 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn is Danaher cocky! He’s got a right to be though given the domination.

    • @burningdog2
      @burningdog2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch his interview with Joe Rogan a few years back when he basically mocks Rogan's training quality, even though he's a black belt under Eddie Bravo.

    • @Alexidrum
      @Alexidrum ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burningdog2 Can you link the video and timeline? thanks.

  • @dustinmoritz6634
    @dustinmoritz6634 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gordon is incredible!! Piss off about steroids!! Gordon is a doctor and wish I could get half of the shit hr takes

  • @MercedesSLSJpak
    @MercedesSLSJpak ปีที่แล้ว

    There are totally valid reasons to dislike Gordon, but the majority of the hate he receives is envy and resentment for his genuine power and skill, and fear before it, because he doesn't fake humility and us normal folk find unmasked power frightening. Bottom line, it's awesome to have an American GOAT who shares his techniques and is singlehandedly uplifting the general skill level in no-gi in a way that affirms there are only two people: the powerful who can impose on others and those who have no choice but to be imposed upon. Having trained for a couple years and watched ADCC live, it literally gave me chills and frightened me to see how easily he dismantled the best of the best...power is beautiful to behold

    • @BlockheadJiujitsu
      @BlockheadJiujitsu ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow what a toxic and shallow analysis of power. Please don't share your opinions with any young people and maybe do some therapy.

    • @MercedesSLSJpak
      @MercedesSLSJpak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlockheadJiujitsuJesus still loves you, so it's all good fam. 😘

    • @Leopar525
      @Leopar525 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guns lots of guns

  • @jx9858
    @jx9858 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “You’re in shape!! You must be on steroids!!”
    - fat America

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Andre is just well into neck and trap training 😉 please don't for a second pretend that either of these two grapplers are clean

    • @itachiuchiha5771
      @itachiuchiha5771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaoo are you serious? Andre is in his forties and doesn’t even have a neck from trap size

  • @nooodls1
    @nooodls1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cus D’Amato shx.

  • @sambog2635
    @sambog2635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hate way JD tries act like he's some kind of jedi master, who knows all the secrets of the universe.. gordon is full of steroids!!!

    • @PhillipGregoryMusic
      @PhillipGregoryMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the other guys aren't?

    • @sambog2635
      @sambog2635 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhillipGregoryMusic i didnt say they weren't. that ok with you? or do i need to check with you first before commenting

    • @PhillipGregoryMusic
      @PhillipGregoryMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sambog2635 so what's the point of your comment 😂 it's pointless. It's like saying that he's cheating because hes a black belt.

  • @mob1974
    @mob1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire gordon for his talents but i cant stand him at the same time

  • @JamesKyujin
    @JamesKyujin ปีที่แล้ว

    And this is why I hate point competition. Sub only period.

  • @tonygonzalez704
    @tonygonzalez704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most intelligent, kindness and relaxed way to say " Andres a bum compared to my boy "

  • @RicStaR2410
    @RicStaR2410 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if BJJ test for steroids yet? Hahahahaha.
    They don't.

  • @berzerkfury1459
    @berzerkfury1459 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bullshit Gordan is amazing at bjj but its at a point where his reputation is winning for him. Everyone is either too afraid or overly respective (same thing I guess). Craig almost got him in an armbar and id argue he was afraid to break it. When someone steps up that believes in themself more than Gordan the king will fall.

    • @themartian7121
      @themartian7121 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said! The problem is the reputation. Just think about the dude that lost in 11 second.. that same dude won the Brazilian trials... and that's an incredible feat! There's no way he should have beaten him in 11 seconds. Even I (60 yr old) will not lose to Gordon in 11 seconds! 😜 In fact, I may even beat him!

    • @gra5223
      @gra5223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You clearly don’t know anything about jiu jitsu. Let me guess, you’re a big Conor McGregor fan🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @themartian7121
      @themartian7121 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gra5223 Guess you know more than me about Jits. I have been a paid referee at comps. Competed at national level in my country and am a 2nd degree BJJ black belt. I totally agree with the previous dude and know for a fact that the mental aspect is at least 40% of an encounter!

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 ปีที่แล้ว

      What exactly is 'bullshit' here?

    • @Brascobadboy
      @Brascobadboy ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol
      Ok

  • @JanoyCresva
    @JanoyCresva ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Usada was in grappling, Gordon Ryan would barely hold one title.

    • @gordonryan3494
      @gordonryan3494 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂 imagine me grappling everyone else but they can't mask their shit techniques with steroids? Hahajaj I'd love to have everyone compete natural. Also imagine being so stupid to actually think usada doesn't allows ped use lmao

    • @krisf4969
      @krisf4969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's BS. Everyone is on steroids in BJJ so it would just even out the field and drop everyone a couple weight classes.

    • @dhl671
      @dhl671 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krisf4969 take it you’re a Gordon Ryan fanboy?

    • @krisf4969
      @krisf4969 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dhl671 Nope, just stating the obvious my man.

    • @dildobaggins8987
      @dildobaggins8987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it’s just mean the cash cows wouldn’t get tested transparently and there would be even more lies. USADA catches who’s wanted to be caught

  • @KevinHernandez-qz8sb
    @KevinHernandez-qz8sb ปีที่แล้ว

    BJJ: half juice, half technique

  • @baronsamedi5224
    @baronsamedi5224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The level of PEDs that was in this match is insane

  • @ratius1979
    @ratius1979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zzzz

  • @documentthedrama8279
    @documentthedrama8279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lex is such a clown. shfity eyes, always. fast forwarding constantly instead of enjoying the honor of letting John go through the entire match.... possibly the most important match in BJJ history
    just a terrible human being

  • @amirshuker6764
    @amirshuker6764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most boring sport to watch

    • @lenseofclarity9997
      @lenseofclarity9997 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seriously?
      I guess if a person has no substantial understanding of a subject then that subject might appear boring.
      The two men competing here and the two talking not only understand the combat and competition aspects of this experience, they all have a superb insight into the philosophical and developmental aspects of training in this type of activity.
      There is little or no room for pretence or nonsense.
      The "honesty" of this type of experience can only truly be understood by those that have faced it.
      John, Lex, Andrea, Gordon: I salute them all for who they are and what the do.
      Good luck to you sir on your own journey.
      I genuinely hope you have an opportunity for similar insights.
      Perhaps then you might see what they do as far more than purely a mode of entertainment for the hungry masses.
      Entertainment is certainly a part of it. But the depth, authenticity and complexity is the essence of it : not it's value as a form of entertainment.

    • @bobadicious
      @bobadicious ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Na it's physical chess but you gotta know some BJJ to appreciate it

    • @misevibre
      @misevibre ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lenseofclarity9997 LOL, a regular person is not willing to sacrifice time of their life to learn this shit in order to understand basic things...Do you really think that people have a deep understanding of Soccer (most people who watch it)? It's a simple enough sport for the masses to understand and complex enough for the experts to have something to talk about. It' also not 2 roided out weirdos rubbing each other on the ground, either (which is what the untrained eye sees). This shit puts a lot of high level grapplers to sleep sometimes, let alone a regular person. The general look of it is ass, too. BJJ is a TERRIBLE spectator sport.

    • @lenseofclarity9997
      @lenseofclarity9997 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@misevibre
      Those are interesting points.
      Perhaps you're correct.
      Perhaps partially correct.
      Perhaps shift in perspective is what we all need to understand the view and opinion of others.

    • @gra5223
      @gra5223 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why tf are you here then? Better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  • @themonaghan999
    @themonaghan999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Connor McGregor should hire Gordon and teach him

    • @gra5223
      @gra5223 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      McGregor’s got a left hand, a big mouth, and no heart. How many years since he won a fight?

    • @Dekibtw
      @Dekibtw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gra5223 No heart?
      LOL, STFU

  • @paulrobinson3534
    @paulrobinson3534 ปีที่แล้ว

    Headline should read "Steroids. Who did it better"?