I don't think its possible because the top would be spinning fast and you would need it to be slow smooth loud then quite then back to loud, maybe they could do it but it would be going from loud to quite really fast.
@@satibel I know. A bigger one would have more mass so it would spin a lot longer, and I'm talking about the sound, it would be impossible for it to smoothly transition from a higher pitch to a lower pitch then back to a high pitch again.
Sadly no engineer has ever created any swimming vehicle that comes close to the complexity of a fish :/ There are still some more fish needed to be given to engineers until they replicate fish.
@@iteerrex8166 sugar doesn't actually cause hyperactivity. For that to happen, people would go apeshit every time they eat anything and everything. The hyperactivity is most likely caused by the excitement of eating sugar, which is usually highly regulated and thus "rare" for children. The same principle would apply to adults getting a large raise to their paycheck, something that is usually highly regulated.
MrRedstone pretty sure the sugar does make people more energized and if you ever had carbs like cereal or bread when you’re tired and hungry it gives you energy
Potato Servant the “energy” you feel isn’t the same energy that runs your body. In fact, I’m sure to a certain degree you know this too, if you have too much sugar in your blood (aka your pancreas isn’t producing enough insulin to keep blood sugar at a certain level), you are diabetic. Syndromes diabetes, aka too-much-sugar disease, are quite the opposite of being “energetic”. The “energised” feeling you have is merely your brain producing dopamine when eating food.
I am Vanessa Golston from Toledo, Ohio and this is my Favorite Scientific Video. I grew up playing with my Favorite Toy, a Red, Blue,Green and Yellow Large Tin Humming, Spinning Top. I am from the late 1950's and was addicted to the SOUND of the TIN TOP after I pushed the handle up and down to pump up the speed. The SPEED, SPINNING and SOUND was a HUMMING that actually SINGS a SONG at a VERY HIGH SPEED and maintains that HIGH FREQUENCY for as long as I kept the handle pumped. I would listen to this at least 1 hour every day when playing on a HARDWOOD FLOOR. This is a soothing sound to me and caused me to FEEL EUPHORIA. I know it stimulated my brain and I felt pleasure from this HIGH PITCHED HUMMING. I had a lot of scientific toys, but this was by far THE BEST TOY I EVER OWNED. MY TIN TOP THAT SANG. THE SECOND BEST TOY WAS MY TRAIN SET THAT CONVERTED WATER INTO STEAM AND THE BLOWING WHISTLE COMBINED WITH STEAM STREAMING OUT OF THE WHISTLE. Vanessa Golston, October 27, 2019 Happy Sunday 2:16AM
Man, you should download an audio spectrograph so you can see what the heck you are hearing. There's one for android called spectroid and it works well, i think
I love how much his dad shows him stuff that he gets into and it inspires him. This is like the 3rd video today where I've heard him say his dad was an influence to the project he's doing. I always admire a father/son duo with that kind of relationship. That's special. His dad did a good job too because look at how smart his boy turned out to be! I wonder how proud he must feel seeing his boy engineering this stuff and running a TH-cam channel that has hugely influenced the 3D printing community.
Lovely investigative experiment! Helmholtz resonance is formed by two mechanisms 1) The air in the neck (like neck of a bottle) which acts as a mass. 2) Air in the chamber (like body of a bottle) which acts as a spring. When air moves over the mouth of such a resonator (like blowing over a bottle) the mass in the neck is excited and bounces at a specific speed on the air spring in the chamber. Just like va pendulum it operates at a very defined timing (pitch / frequency). You can control the pitch (frequency) of the whistle by adjusting the chamber volume as well as the neck length and diameter. As I mentioned, the system resonates at specific speed / pitch and multiples of that. This is why you heard two distinct tones as the top slowed down, and they appeared to be an octave (1/2 pitch) apart. I recommend designing a top with a straight narrow neck (not filleted) opening to a large chamber abruptly. You might even try a ridge on the outside of the top to cause turbulence over the opening. Feel free to get in touch if you want some in depth discussion on acoustics Angus.
"Cannot force air" challenge accepted! ;) Use a double spinner system. 1 heavy spinning disk powering a small turbine, then the spinning top as well...
Sorry for being late to the party, but the bamboo whistling spinning tops was a traditional toy in my country (dad has it when he was a kid so 1950s) and the design is quite simple. Pick a bamboo that's hollow inside and make a rectangle hole and that's it. The sound is humming and loud as it is so it's a fun toy to play with. Great job for making it with 3D printer!
for cartoons what they actually use is called a shepard tone, which has an auditory illusion that its always getting deeper/higher when infact its just repeating over and over again
Plus, turbine sirens (the kind people think of when they hear the term "air raid siren") often use two turbines tuned slightly differently to get that dissonant, startling "find shelter NOW" sound that everyone recognizes. In fact, I wonder if one could make a whistling top with two differently-sized inlets to get that effect. With the proper tuning, you could even play chords :D
The first thing I thought when seeing your cross sections was "where is the air inlet?" If you are going to use centripetal force to force the air out and thus make a whistling noise, you need some kind of hole on the top to let air in. Old-fashioned air raid horns work that way too and they are really loud. I think your tin top works in a similar way as I saw that the screw knob doesn't fall in entirely and might function as an air inlet. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
I had a whistling toy top in the 80s. I found it on eBay a few years ago and it broke after a few uses because it became brittle. Only the top of the top broke so the launching mech has broken but the whistle is intact. It is not the reed type and I think it had two tones as it spun down and had a much richer mid tone than the ones you made. It’s clear plastic so I'll take some photos of it and send it to you.
A simple flat dress shoe shoestring works well in place of the nylon cord. The string end fits into the hole and the flat part lets you wind more string on the spool, so it spins faster.
I'm still pretty confident that TH-cam would algorithmically lose its mind over a video titled "RED-HOT NICKEL FIDGET SPINNER SCREAMING AT OVER 1,000°."
As I understand it, cold war air raid sirens worked on a similar principle, but instead of one hollow chamber, they used an impeller shape. They would also have two impellers tuned slightly differently to get that signature sound. It would be really interesting to see that design applied here, and make a top that sounds like an air raid siren.
Add a "pea" for a warbling tone. The "pea" (used to be a dried pea in older whistles) is a small bead that's marginally larger than the sound producing vents. You may also try having several parallel holes, like a pan pipe, or even a specific assortment of holes to produce differing tones. Perhaps even placing thin tympani or drum-like caps over a portion of the surface to act as a resonance projector (similar to the thin cone-shaped part of a speaker, but flat & flush with the top surface).
if you connect the external channel with a hole near the center then the spin top will act as a centrifugal pump and you can force air exiting at the sides, however as a pump surely it will reduce the spinning time a bit, hopefully not much, but will allow you to use the air flow to create sound.
If you want to experiment with whisling shapes without wasting time and resources, one can probably make a jig with a chuck similar to a drill but with a brushless quad copter motor to spin these and also make inner side whistling parts interchangeable via sliding in and out of the round shape frame.
Well, you've got me hooked now. I created my own spinner from scratch (3 versions so far, actually) and I can't get it to whistle. It spins great, just no sound. I feel so lame realizing that "primitives" created perfect spinners from gourds, and I'm struggling with all my modern tech. Oh well, back to the drawing board....
Your tin humming top toy may be different than mine, but as far as I know, those toys don't actually use Helmholtz resonance. In the base of the top, there should be some metal reeds. These make the tone. As for the airflow, it's rather interesting. On mine for instance, if you plug up all the holes on the top perimeter of the top except one and blow into it, nothing will happen. But if you suck air out of the hole, the reed begins to make sound. The holes form a rudimentary centrifugal blower. Edit: Man. I should watch the whole video before commenting.... Literally 2 seconds after I hit play, he points out the reeds....
GamingWithFun15 I do too, it reminds me when I was a kid and played with one, I loved the thing and would play with it for hours, now watching this video, I miss having one and may have to buy one to have a part of my childhood again
Really nice! I love to see other people getting obsessed with technical things like that! Good work, 4,99 is a fair price for all the work you put in your projects!
You could try the whistle sound before spinning it, you could print it twice and attach one as the prototype to a drill and there you can test the whistle sound and speeds.
7:55 these aren't actually two tones. The 'mute' part is probably the natural frequency of the cavity. Physicsgirl did a video on this, but for tubes instead of spinning tops. This is an incredibly interesting discovery if you ask me
I would think you could use two bearings in the launcher so to reduce wear but also reduce the possible friction created for slow down. Basically the launcher pieces would spin while launching.
It's quite logic the tone doesn't change when decreasing in velocity. If you blow harder on a flute, it's not like the tone will be higher or lower, it'll just be louder.
I've done some research into designing an ocarina tool 3D print so I was looking into how whistles work. There are lots of videos of people making them out of clay but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to where the holes go and the actual whistle hole is not really described well in them. The ocarina has a similar resonance chamber inside.
If you steal the ball out of the tip of a ball-point pen, you can super glue it to the base of your top and probably increase your spin times :) That ball in an ink pen is actually made of tungsten carbide, incredibly hard, and would make a great tip/spin point for your tops. The hardness allows for less friction loss, which means longer spin times :)
I was expecting a much different sound from that tin top when you called it a tritone sound. That means something much different than "3 tones" in music.
They work on the same principle all he would have to do is run two of them of different sizes at the same time. Then it's just about finding the sizes that matches the tones of an air raid warning system.
Just a small detail, a Tritone is something different in the context of music. What the vintage top plays is a Triad, where as the Tritone is actually a dissonant interval of two notes! For example C and F#
If you include a small recess in the spinning point, you may be able to snap in a small ball bearing to decrease friction and wear. I imagine you might get a spin with longer duration.
Screaming spinning tops. An excellent example of a "Multiple Discovery". The idea that once it has been discovered/invented once, it will inevitably be discovered/invented elsewhere. Also an excellent example of a "Revenge Gift" to give to anyone with children. Especially if you where to replace the wear-sensitive parts like the launcher rings with something sturdier like metal rings and the rod by a by say a bamboo stick....
I'm not surprised by the multiple frequencies of the helmholtz top. Blow gently across the top of a glass beverage bottle (ideally something like a beer bottle), then blow significantly harder. You'll notice a new resonant frequency.
If you played a brass or wind instrument, you have know instinctively that blowing harder (so of course more air moving through) just makes it louder! Gotta change embouchure or the length/shape of the airway to change pitch, but that Helmholtz resonance dealie is pretty neat. ps- now print a giant one! :D Thanks for supplying all the files for people to tweak!
Just a tiny (relatively unimportant) detail to correct: a tritone is a specific dissonant musical interval that is half an octave. The humming top produces three tones, but not a tritone. If it made a tritone, it might be even more haunting sounding!
Angus definitely does not have kids! But now that I am a “Grandmother”... I am making these for my grandchildren and then sending them home! 🤣 Seriously though, as always Kudos to Angus for his time, research, materials to produce awesome 3d prints. Thank you.
Spinnig it out At the speed of sound GONNA rip it up Nother bet IS DOWN WERE THE TEAM with the BANG OUR GANG is the one that's gonna win Lets beyblade Beyblade Lets --beyblade Lets --beyblade Beyblade let it rip
Helmholtz Resonance is also how the Jerico trumpet dive sirens on the famous JU-87 stupa dive bomber (which served as inspiration for the Star Wars TIE fighter scream) generated such a demoralizing scweal. Not only those but also 20th century air raid sirens!
Build a bigger top where you can put a servo inside that changes the shape of the cavity. Could be difficult to balance but worth being able to actively control and possibly program a song into it?
The video is tagged "3d printed toys" so it's probably because "toys" is part of that tag that those recommendations are appearing. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if the tags "screaming spinning top" and "loudest spinning top" are also partially responsible.)
"How does something so small, make so much sound for so long?" - Angus doesn't have kids.
Spot on!
5 years later: Angus jr
Or younger siblings...
And you must tho
#dadjokes
You speak the truth Brother!
Can you make a top that sounds like a air raid siren
kwalski analysis
@LoneFalcon a bigger one could be made like those spinning tops which stay in place, with an outer stator mounted on bearings.
I don't think its possible because the top would be spinning fast and you would need it to be slow smooth loud then quite then back to loud, maybe they could do it but it would be going from loud to quite really fast.
@@professored7169 as you're launching it it spins faster then decreases as it slows down.
@@satibel I know. A bigger one would have more mass so it would spin a lot longer, and I'm talking about the sound, it would be impossible for it to smoothly transition from a higher pitch to a lower pitch then back to a high pitch again.
Holy shit, that whistle mechanism thing can be good gimmick for beyblades
the dream, definitely
trips rip the rip trips, beyblade let errr rip m8
Do they still make beyblades?? Omg I just had flashbacks to 3rd grade. I forgot about beyblades.
@@professored7169 yeah, the latest beyblade series is beyblade burst GT
Might be a bad idea beyblades rely on their weight to be not thrown off the platform
What it really sounds like : *whirring
How I thought it sounds like : *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH*
Yeet Meister sameee
@Yeet Meister thats why i clicked
michel must be bombarded about this till he hates it
Why did I read that in my mind as a middle aged guy screaming
hell I think one that sounds like jacksepticeye screaming would do XD
4:34 "tritone hum? Why would they choose such a horrible interval?" *Hears the chord* "ohhh, triad. He meant triad."
Josh G. Tbh, I loved the one I had as a kid, it always interest me on why it made that sound as a kid, plus all different sounds you can do with it
T H X
Music theory gang
Tritones are Metal \m/
I was thinking the same thing
4:40
Dave Close lmao
i don’t get it,can you explain?
You should do a follow up video using other people's submitted designs!
Should do a MyMiniFactory Design Competition.
@@willierants5880 count me in :)
This is so complicated, jeez. Just buy a super cheap one then bind a tortured human soul to it.
Ikr, he didnt have to do all that geometry.
XD
That is much complicated. Nobody has proven the existence of souls. Furthermore how to bind it?
T Thung more like r/wooosh
you know how much a human soul is? heard tis quite expensive!
Give a fish to a man and he'll eat one time, give a fish to an engineer and he will replicate the fish and print a ton of them until they swim
Sadly no engineer has ever created any swimming vehicle that comes close to the complexity of a fish :/
There are still some more fish needed to be given to engineers until they replicate fish.
I get it. It's a joke because fish eat plastic. Good thing we have PLA
I like how you're saying engineers cannot be men.
the human race and the engineer race
@Roy Mazingo Well, most of them aren't people though.
Look at this dude showing off that he has a dad.
Bruh
Hah imagine having a dad
But do you have a dad?
Leon S. Kennedy r/woooosh
@@EclipseeRaven not you
so small, so loud for so long... an apt description of most children!!
lol Its not physics.. its chemistry.. too much sugar.
@@iteerrex8166 sugar doesn't actually cause hyperactivity. For that to happen, people would go apeshit every time they eat anything and everything. The hyperactivity is most likely caused by the excitement of eating sugar, which is usually highly regulated and thus "rare" for children. The same principle would apply to adults getting a large raise to their paycheck, something that is usually highly regulated.
@@PunakiviAddikti I'm a noob at bio-chem, so no argument here.
MrRedstone pretty sure the sugar does make people more energized and if you ever had carbs like cereal or bread when you’re tired and hungry it gives you energy
Potato Servant the “energy” you feel isn’t the same energy that runs your body. In fact, I’m sure to a certain degree you know this too, if you have too much sugar in your blood (aka your pancreas isn’t producing enough insulin to keep blood sugar at a certain level), you are diabetic. Syndromes diabetes, aka too-much-sugar disease, are quite the opposite of being “energetic”. The “energised” feeling you have is merely your brain producing dopamine when eating food.
congratulations you just triggered a vietnam flashback
Or ww2
Lol
Mini stuka!
Burn em crispy
Yikes dude
@@itzthevad3r242 the first thing that pop into my head when i read this was "damn i love the smell of napalm in the morning"
John smells napalm
0:01 when you look at an enderman
Oh god
FatalV0ID haha
Yep
That’s what I thought of!
Tru
@TBB747 same
I am Vanessa Golston from Toledo, Ohio and this is my Favorite Scientific Video. I grew up playing with my Favorite Toy, a Red, Blue,Green and Yellow Large Tin Humming, Spinning Top. I am from the late 1950's and was addicted to the SOUND of the TIN TOP after I pushed the handle up and down to pump up the speed. The SPEED, SPINNING and SOUND was a HUMMING that actually SINGS a SONG at a VERY HIGH SPEED and maintains that HIGH FREQUENCY for as long as I kept the handle pumped. I would listen to this at least 1 hour every day when playing on a HARDWOOD FLOOR. This is a soothing sound to me and caused me to FEEL EUPHORIA. I know it stimulated my brain and I felt pleasure from this HIGH PITCHED HUMMING. I had a lot of scientific toys, but this was by far THE BEST TOY I EVER OWNED. MY TIN TOP THAT SANG. THE SECOND BEST TOY WAS MY TRAIN SET THAT CONVERTED WATER INTO STEAM AND THE BLOWING WHISTLE COMBINED WITH STEAM STREAMING OUT OF THE WHISTLE.
Vanessa Golston,
October 27, 2019
Happy Sunday
2:16AM
Man, you should download an audio spectrograph so you can see what the heck you are hearing.
There's one for android called spectroid and it works well, i think
I have tested it with a frequenzy generator and it is has an acuracy of ~1-2 Hz
I love how much his dad shows him stuff that he gets into and it inspires him. This is like the 3rd video today where I've heard him say his dad was an influence to the project he's doing.
I always admire a father/son duo with that kind of relationship. That's special.
His dad did a good job too because look at how smart his boy turned out to be! I wonder how proud he must feel seeing his boy engineering this stuff and running a TH-cam channel that has hugely influenced the 3D printing community.
Lovely investigative experiment! Helmholtz resonance is formed by two mechanisms 1) The air in the neck (like neck of a bottle) which acts as a mass. 2) Air in the chamber (like body of a bottle) which acts as a spring. When air moves over the mouth of such a resonator (like blowing over a bottle) the mass in the neck is excited and bounces at a specific speed on the air spring in the chamber. Just like va pendulum it operates at a very defined timing (pitch / frequency).
You can control the pitch (frequency) of the whistle by adjusting the chamber volume as well as the neck length and diameter.
As I mentioned, the system resonates at specific speed / pitch and multiples of that. This is why you heard two distinct tones as the top slowed down, and they appeared to be an octave (1/2 pitch) apart.
I recommend designing a top with a straight narrow neck (not filleted) opening to a large chamber abruptly. You might even try a ridge on the outside of the top to cause turbulence over the opening.
Feel free to get in touch if you want some in depth discussion on acoustics Angus.
I'm sad, I edited the post to remove a typo and The Great Angus's like disappeared automagically :(
Great extra info. Tnx
Everyone: makes 10:01 min vid for ad revenue
Maker Muse: makes 9:30 min vid to spare us of the ads.
lol
I got an ad.
I still got it
And makes us pay five dollars to try it ourselves?
I got 2 ads
"How does something so small, make so much sound, for so long?"
Me: *slowly looks to my chihuahua*
Now, make a screaming Beyblade, and market it to the manufacturers. Kids will love it, parents will hate it.
the whole point of toys is for parents to hate them right?
lol
UltimateLeafer
Only the ones for kids
@@quarans08 :l
@@quarans08 lol
Beyblade beyblade let it *REEEEEEEEEEE*
"Cannot force air" challenge accepted! ;)
Use a double spinner system. 1 heavy spinning disk powering a small turbine, then the spinning top as well...
Ooh that would be intense!
@@MakersMuse Could possibly use the twisted rod, as the spinning top toy does, but to power an internal spinner, then spin the main disk?
Sorry for being late to the party, but the bamboo whistling spinning tops was a traditional toy in my country (dad has it when he was a kid so 1950s) and the design is quite simple. Pick a bamboo that's hollow inside and make a rectangle hole and that's it. The sound is humming and loud as it is so it's a fun toy to play with. Great job for making it with 3D printer!
Kind of want to see a 3D printed Aztec Death Whistle now.
So you watch jre too?
Probably is one already. I need one.
Your final one sounds like the cartoon falling or bomb drop
for cartoons what they actually use is called a shepard tone, which has an auditory illusion that its always getting deeper/higher when infact its just repeating over and over again
@@theaveragepro1749 Dayum
@@theaveragepro1749 thnx for the info
Some tornado and bombing sirens are a spinning thing, wonder if using that design might be louder.
A siren of that construction needs their fixed outer ring to get that loud unfortunately
Plus, turbine sirens (the kind people think of when they hear the term "air raid siren") often use two turbines tuned slightly differently to get that dissonant, startling "find shelter NOW" sound that everyone recognizes. In fact, I wonder if one could make a whistling top with two differently-sized inlets to get that effect. With the proper tuning, you could even play chords :D
@@yetanother9127 Just wanted to get some ideas flowing, guess it worked :)
Honestly, I think there already is one on Thingyverse
Nope - those sirens are close to as efficient as you can get.
The first thing I thought when seeing your cross sections was "where is the air inlet?" If you are going to use centripetal force to force the air out and thus make a whistling noise, you need some kind of hole on the top to let air in. Old-fashioned air raid horns work that way too and they are really loud. I think your tin top works in a similar way as I saw that the screw knob doesn't fall in entirely and might function as an air inlet. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Would it work as a centrifugal fan if the entire body were spinning at the same speed?
Actually, the tin top has the intake at the bottom, and pulls air over some reeds. You can even see them from the bottom of the tin top.
So a screaming beyblade?
"LET IT *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* "
EEEEEEEEEEEP
I am just imagining a spinning top just screaming “FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICKkKkkKkKK”
Like a pneumatic piston sound
You frickin fricks
Is that you Elliot?
Tom Rushin who the frick is Elliot
Have you seen the roomba some guy made that violently swears whenever it hits something?
Don't tops spin backwards in australia like toilet flushes?
@Nut I know I was making a joke
He actually had to develop them so that they forced themselves into the ground, otherwise they'd fall off the bottom of the Earth
@Nut r/woooooosh
hahahahhahaha
Yes they do
I had a whistling toy top in the 80s. I found it on eBay a few years ago and it broke after a few uses because it became brittle. Only the top of the top broke so the launching mech has broken but the whistle is intact. It is not the reed type and I think it had two tones as it spun down and had a much richer mid tone than the ones you made. It’s clear plastic so I'll take some photos of it and send it to you.
I had that exact spinning top you ordered when i was a kid.
Your videos are always high quality
Can you improve the “screaming skull” whistle? Make it more “scary”. Make it louder. Make it more “ghostly”.
Multiple chambers with different tones.
A simple flat dress shoe shoestring works well in place of the nylon cord. The string end fits into the hole and the flat part lets you wind more string on the spool, so it spins faster.
Imagine if a referee uses this in a game.
Opponent: "gets a point"
Referee: let it rip!!!
4:19 man I totally forgot about this thing, I bet it’s still at my grandparents house. I use to mess with it all the time.
Now you just have to make a screaming fidget spinner and TH-cam will be yours for the taking.
You’re two years too late on that topic
I'm still pretty confident that TH-cam would algorithmically lose its mind over a video titled "RED-HOT NICKEL FIDGET SPINNER SCREAMING AT OVER 1,000°."
@@StopChangingUsernamesTH-cam u mean 1000rpm?
@@StopChangingUsernamesTH-cam wait nevermind I'm stupid
And I’d buy one
As I understand it, cold war air raid sirens worked on a similar principle, but instead of one hollow chamber, they used an impeller shape. They would also have two impellers tuned slightly differently to get that signature sound. It would be really interesting to see that design applied here, and make a top that sounds like an air raid siren.
Imagine rigging something up so that whenever somebody walks through a door it just drops like 50 of these at once
strings tied to the door
and you gotta make them different dissenent frequencies too
Add a "pea" for a warbling tone. The "pea" (used to be a dried pea in older whistles) is a small bead that's marginally larger than the sound producing vents. You may also try having several parallel holes, like a pan pipe, or even a specific assortment of holes to produce differing tones.
Perhaps even placing thin tympani or drum-like caps over a portion of the surface to act as a resonance projector (similar to the thin cone-shaped part of a speaker, but flat & flush with the top surface).
You should try and make an advanced launcher that uses gears to amp up the velocity
Or a beyblade compatible top
if you connect the external channel with a hole near the center then the spin top will act as a centrifugal pump and you can force air exiting at the sides, however as a pump surely it will reduce the spinning time a bit, hopefully not much, but will allow you to use the air flow to create sound.
For added nerd-credit you could add an led strip for roto-writing!
If you want to experiment with whisling shapes without wasting time and resources, one can probably make a jig with a chuck similar to a drill but with a brushless quad copter motor to spin these and also make inner side whistling parts interchangeable via sliding in and out of the round shape frame.
Well, you've got me hooked now. I created my own spinner from scratch (3 versions so far, actually) and I can't get it to whistle. It spins great, just no sound. I feel so lame realizing that "primitives" created perfect spinners from gourds, and I'm struggling with all my modern tech. Oh well, back to the drawing board....
Me too. I had another video idea
Post the design, I could see why it’s not working.
@@IIBLANKII You can find it here: www.karenandjay.com/misc/singing-top.stl
Apart from 3d printer another way you can make one or get one made is with a wood lathe
Your tin humming top toy may be different than mine, but as far as I know, those toys don't actually use Helmholtz resonance. In the base of the top, there should be some metal reeds. These make the tone. As for the airflow, it's rather interesting. On mine for instance, if you plug up all the holes on the top perimeter of the top except one and blow into it, nothing will happen. But if you suck air out of the hole, the reed begins to make sound. The holes form a rudimentary centrifugal blower.
Edit: Man. I should watch the whole video before commenting.... Literally 2 seconds after I hit play, he points out the reeds....
TH-cam pranksters: *Taking screaming tops to retirement homes and watching Vietnam war survivors eyes widen with flashbacks social experiment!*
The vintage top sounds like a scary tornado siren! Thanks for this video I really like how you talk to us like we are there. Have a good day:)
You should make trompos spin tops
Yes
Yea
4:38 only music people know that that is a Perfect 5th between F and C
I love this part
GamingWithFun15 I do too, it reminds me when I was a kid and played with one, I loved the thing and would play with it for hours, now watching this video, I miss having one and may have to buy one to have a part of my childhood again
Really nice! I love to see other people getting obsessed with technical things like that! Good work, 4,99 is a fair price for all the work you put in your projects!
You could try the whistle sound before spinning it, you could print it twice and attach one as the prototype to a drill and there you can test the whistle sound and speeds.
Nobody:
Tormented souls of the damned: ahhhhhhhhhhh!
Sweet, sweet souls..
7:55 these aren't actually two tones. The 'mute' part is probably the natural frequency of the cavity. Physicsgirl did a video on this, but for tubes instead of spinning tops. This is an incredibly interesting discovery if you ask me
Imagine playing this at a dark house in 12 pm
*Ive seen this raw strength only once before*
I would think you could use two bearings in the launcher so to reduce wear but also reduce the possible friction created for slow down. Basically the launcher pieces would spin while launching.
U should really look at video abt air raid sirens by what’s inside?..... do colab if possible and design more .... 🤘🏼
It's quite logic the tone doesn't change when decreasing in velocity. If you blow harder on a flute, it's not like the tone will be higher or lower, it'll just be louder.
Now make one that actually screams, like the Aztecs did, you know you want to
How many native Indian burial grounds would that cost?
I've done some research into designing an ocarina tool 3D print so I was looking into how whistles work. There are lots of videos of people making them out of clay but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to where the holes go and the actual whistle hole is not really described well in them. The ocarina has a similar resonance chamber inside.
LOL U NEVER GON WIN WITH HOMEMADE BEYBLADES LIKE THIS
you will scare your opponent to death
counts as a win
If you steal the ball out of the tip of a ball-point pen, you can super glue it to the base of your top and probably increase your spin times :) That ball in an ink pen is actually made of tungsten carbide, incredibly hard, and would make a great tip/spin point for your tops. The hardness allows for less friction loss, which means longer spin times :)
Wait seriously? That's a vintage spinning top from the 50s? I've got one of those and my little sister has the over. That's crazy.
I was expecting a much different sound from that tin top when you called it a tritone sound. That means something much different than "3 tones" in music.
Yeah I thought the same thing. For anyone wondering, the sound is more like a major chord, a tritone is two notes with an interval of 3 tones.
Could you make one that works like an air raid siren? I wonder how loud it can get.
They work on the same principle all he would have to do is run two of them of different sizes at the same time. Then it's just about finding the sizes that matches the tones of an air raid warning system.
I worship your nerdiness.
have you ever printed a hollow cone with the part fan at 100%? I was scared sh*tless when I started hearing whistling in the middle of the night
R/crappydesign
Just a small detail, a Tritone is something different in the context of music. What the vintage top plays is a Triad, where as the Tritone is actually a dissonant interval of two notes! For example C and F#
I used to love those metal spinning tops when I was younger
If you include a small recess in the spinning point, you may be able to snap in a small ball bearing to decrease friction and wear. I imagine you might get a spin with longer duration.
*Tinnitus Intensifies*
Screaming spinning tops. An excellent example of a "Multiple Discovery". The idea that once it has been discovered/invented once, it will inevitably be discovered/invented elsewhere. Also an excellent example of a "Revenge Gift" to give to anyone with children. Especially if you where to replace the wear-sensitive parts like the launcher rings with something sturdier like metal rings and the rod by a by say a bamboo stick....
This is so good! "THANKS DAAAD" :D
I'm not surprised by the multiple frequencies of the helmholtz top. Blow gently across the top of a glass beverage bottle (ideally something like a beer bottle), then blow significantly harder. You'll notice a new resonant frequency.
That start sounded like one of those horror movie ambient sounds.
At 7:35 it makes that sound that an enderman from Minecraft does when you look into its eyes
I always learn so much from your videos, this was really interesting!
If you played a brass or wind instrument, you have know instinctively that blowing harder (so of course more air moving through) just makes it louder! Gotta change embouchure or the length/shape of the airway to change pitch, but that Helmholtz resonance dealie is pretty neat.
ps- now print a giant one! :D Thanks for supplying all the files for people to tweak!
Note: the spinner was a paid actor
Just a tiny (relatively unimportant) detail to correct: a tritone is a specific dissonant musical interval that is half an octave. The humming top produces three tones, but not a tritone. If it made a tritone, it might be even more haunting sounding!
Am I the only one who when he spun it in the tote lid thought “hay I did the with beyblades when I was a kid”
Angus definitely does not have kids! But now that I am a “Grandmother”... I am making these for my grandchildren and then sending them home! 🤣 Seriously though, as always Kudos to Angus for his time, research, materials to produce awesome 3d prints. Thank you.
Thanks! Hope they enjoy them!
Spinnig it out
At the speed of sound
GONNA rip it up
Nother bet IS DOWN
WERE THE TEAM with the BANG
OUR GANG is the one that's gonna win
Lets beyblade
Beyblade
Lets --beyblade
Lets --beyblade
Beyblade let it rip
If these tops use Helmholtz resonance, I think that makes them actually ocarinas. Ocarinas are Helmholtz resonators as well.
Imagine putting this in bayblades
That can be a good gimmick for the next beyblade series
Jayson Anderson it's not gonna happen, trust me
3 2 1 let it rip!
OH HOLY CRAP WHAT IS HAPPENING
Helmholtz Resonance is also how the Jerico trumpet dive sirens on the famous JU-87 stupa dive bomber (which served as inspiration for the Star Wars TIE fighter scream) generated such a demoralizing scweal. Not only those but also 20th century air raid sirens!
Dude, put one upside down on a bldc motor! :D
Why bldc?
Perfect for 4am
Dear God, the kid channels in the recommend
I know, it's hideous, I'm going to have to erase this video from my watched videos history.
duncan used to make a wistling wooden yoyo back in the day. i still love to play with my dads.
No one:
Literally zero people:
Absolutely nothing:
A top: REEEEEEE
I love the dalek shirt you’re wearing
When he said 'tritone hum' I was gearing up for a eerie tritone, not 3 pitches at the same time.
Anna Bernegger same.
This was on my reccomended, ill watch out of boredom
Me: reads/ screaming top /uhmmm
Also Me: MuSt Be PoSsEsSeD By A GhOsT!!
Try to make holes on taper side so that air can enter with different velocities also experiment size of the hole it may generate different sounds.
I want one, it will be my weapon of mass...
ANNOYANCE!!!!!!!!
It is undefeatable! Lol, I want one too!
Build a bigger top where you can put a servo inside that changes the shape of the cavity. Could be difficult to balance but worth being able to actively control and possibly program a song into it?
Some disturbing videos by youtube algorithm -------->
Oh yeah, quite disturbing: kids, Minecraft, vlogs, Drama, clickbait...
@@mik13ST only children videos for me :o
The video is tagged "3d printed toys" so it's probably because "toys" is part of that tag that those recommendations are appearing. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if the tags "screaming spinning top" and "loudest spinning top" are also partially responsible.)
Have a slight raised area just after the side hole to force air in. Have exit hole on top near shaft designed like whistle.