@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
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Well "Rio" isn't a witch, and regardless of Billy's reality warping powers, her powers are even more grand, hence why she can slip in and out of this made up reality.
@@Mike__B in episode 7, IIRC, we learn that Rio, aka Lady Death, IS in fact a witch... The original "green witch", which makes perfect sense because the green witch is tied to the cycle of living things giving way to death, which in turn gives way to new life. And, when the other members of the coven first meet Rio, and they ask her if she's a green witch... Her response is "Less of A green witch, more of THE green witch!" with the last 3 words being spoken in an almost demonic voice. Just because she's a cosmic being doesn't mean she can't also be a witch. I'm not trying to pretend that I understand, but I suppose if you're an immortal being, with cosmic levels of power and responsibility, if you wanted to learn magic, it should be fairly simple given that you already have "powers" and you have eternity to learn, given you're immortal.
@@Mike__B She IS a green witch and also lady death so it makes sense that she's not hindered by the road in any sense not because she's "not" a witch herself but she's just that powerful. That's why she's rarely ever seen with them on the road.
@@jedirayden I mean she predates all life in any Universe she exists in, and she's practically omnipotent at least when it comes to mortal beings, so I guess she can do whatever she wants. I feel the MCU kind of "messed up" Death anyways in the MCU-verse compared to her comic counterpart, she's just too damn yappy, Death is usually a very relative quite being.
It was so much fun rewatching the series after seeing the finale! The number of easter eggs and foreshadowing was mind-blowing! It’s so satisfying putting all the puzzle pieces together! Now it makes sense why Agatha grew a liking to Billy in the early episodes. He reminded her so much of her son Nicky. Billy kinda took on Nicky’s role of being an accomplice to Agatha esp. when they were recruiting witches to go to the Witches’ Road
Unless I missed it in this vid, you guys missed the line where Agatha tells Billy one of the ways she knew he was Wanda's kid was they have the same tell. He asks what it is and she says wouldn't he like to know. The tell is that they both unknowingly made hexes in moments of extreme emotional stress based on the influences from their life and surroundings (Wanda the shows she used to watch and Billy from the stuff in his room which was related to the movies, music and art he enjoyed).
Plus pragmatically, when Wanda created her hex, she didn't create space, she transformed Westview. And then here when they start walking the road, Mrs. Hart says all that she thought was underground was an abandoned subway system. So Billy was using that space to transform into the road. That's why they come full circle at the end, because there was only so much space.
Here's a fun thing I noticed this weekend when I was listening to the soundtrack - there's a "true crime" version of the ballad that's used as the credits for Agatha of Eastview. I totally had forgotten about it, but in order to fit in with the 'crime procedural' genre, it uses the lyrics 'down the winding road'....but that's actually closer to the original lyrics!
That scene of Agatha watching over Billy is breaking after seeing episode 9. No wonder she’s so adamant that Rio not to come close to Billy while he’s sleeping. The trauma of losing your on child is to much to handle, even after hundreds of years.
Did anyone else notice the episode 1 “Winding Road” true-crime fantasy version sung by Matthew Mayfield is closer to the original song Nicky and Agatha came up with in episode 9? This show is brilliantly written.
Originally they planned for him to go on the road and have an arc as well, but it was too much bloat. I think he's gonna get possessed by Nicky, influenced by Mephisto, and that's how we see old man Nicky, via him sacrificing animals to manifest. Would be very fitting
In episode 8 when they end up back at the shoes... Billy gets yelled by a pissed off Agatha. Then when they are thinking about what to do next, Billy starts tobsay "Maybe...." but is cut off angrily by Agatha. Something like "if you dont know then keep quiet!" If he verbalizes a what if then she knows he may conjure it into existence so she doesnt want to give him the chance.
This is from episode 7, but I dunno how many more AAA vids we're getting. I haven't seen anyone else mention this anywhere. It's a deep cut for the live music fans out there. Alice's Tarot card with the knight-like protector on it has the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheater profile shot as the background of the card. According to the convo her and Billy had during the first trial, she was with her mom on the Red Rocks stop of a tour when she was 13 and got the protection tattoo (which I'd also theorize is what made her a protection witch as well). But yeah, go look up Red Rocks Amphitheater and compare the profile image of the venue with the rock on the back of the card. It's exactly the same. 🎸🎶
@@StrangeStartrackerArt the curse got her when she was “on the road”, in a fire. Which tracks with the form the curse took when we saw it on the witches road.
All through the series there was talk about no one surviving the road, but the thing they weren't surviving was Agatha herself and the road was the perfect cover for why all these witches died.
@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
Teaching him that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. Underlining her later sacrifice as something he shouldn't take away from her. I'm getting chills lol it's just so good
She was sincere with him on a lot of things, telling him the Road isn't real, and even laying out to him, while omitting one important detail, that they just need to gather some witchy enough people to generate a spark they can use.
@@dzerkle for non comic readers i could see this show being really surprising. But for me, it was telegraphed extremely clearly from the moment he's even breaking in lol
I just realized what was happening during the police station scenes with Harold. She was likely at his house during those scenes. That's why he comes in turns off the light and tells her to go home. It's probably his office or den or something and he's like, ok I've gone with it long enough today. 😂
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire while on tour, "on the road', the rumor she died on the witches' road started cause she popularized the ballad and other witches assumed her fans were her coven and she was trying to open the road and she did eventually then died on it (Alice confirms she died on tour during one of the episodes and it also explains her hallucination in the sauna) but we know it was actually a protection spell for Alice
GO DISNEY GO!! Everything they're doing with Marvel in the MCU is AWESOME. Agatha All Along is a total vibe, and Billy Maximoff is hands down the best character -he's got so much potential! The hype is real for Avengers Secret Wars, and Ijust know Spider-Man is going to play a huge role. Plus, seeing Robert Downey Jr. as Doomsday in Avengers is going to be insane! And don't even get me started on Loki, WandaVision, and finally getting Deadpool & Wolverine together this year! Keep it coming, Disney. :)
I knew this show is going to be so re-watchable when i heard Agatha humming Down the witches road in that opening scene 😮, took me completely by surprise like how didn't we remember that all
The abandoned subway station appeared because they were actually under Westview. Lilia actually asked Jen to return to the hex because she knew she'd regain her powers there even if the Road was fake. I loved Lilia's character.
One of my favorite “I missed it the first time” moments is when Billy says the thing he wants from the road is power, Agatha switches from leaned-in and vested to dismissing him. We wanted her to be a good guy anti-hero so we took her dissuading him and dismissing him, saying “it’s too dangerous” at face value. In reality, she just couldn’t be bothered with him anymore, believing that he didn’t have any power for her to steal.
Hah, mom did tv shows, he did films. Super cute detail. I like the storytelling style of this and wandavision... a big arc that you get excited to rewatch to catch the details that seemed tiny, if noticed. That's why I liked dr.who #9 & #10. This also gives me hope for the Marvel brand for film/TV.
The ENTIRE Witches Road was one big trial for Agatha. She created the song with her son. That song was used to rob other witches of their power. The story of the Witches Road is Agatha Harkness' story. I love that she's comic accurate now after sacrificing herself. Great series 👏
In episode 3, the actual reason Agatha saw that fantasy because Billy can read all the minds and see the deepest traumas (like her mother) but Aghata's.
I love how the ballad meant different things to agatha in different stages of her life. I also love how she was taken with billy so much for not just being the son of a powerful witch who could create a hex of his own, but because he materialized something that she dreamed of with her own son
7:46 Oh, dang! Probably. Agatha probably wanted royalties for the song she and Nicholas wrote. Congrats on predicting one of the Treehouse of Horror segments with your Denim t-shirt.
i disagree that agatha saw the dark hold in the crib bc billy heard about it. the other visions are deeply personal and don't include something billy already knew
Nobody talks about the reference to the TV show the Travelers. Who were only able to travel to the body of some one who just recently died. But in precise timing so it looks like they didnt .
Interesting that you suggest Agatha knew all along that the Road was created by Billy. I'd be curious what leads you to this idea. Even with us (the viewers) now knowing that Billy created it as a Hex, my inclination is to think that Agatha didn't necessarily know this, but basically just didn't know why the Road had come to exist - she was confused and trying to figure it out; or, just trying to cheat and survive however she could. Or just not taking it seriously, in general.
In the finale they give us clips which essentially show Agatha knew all along or at least ever since the road appeared. In the flashbacks Billy when realizing the truth we’re shown various clips of Agatha looking at him or saying things that indicate she knew from way back like the way she looked at him when he entered the basement after the door appeared, the smirk on her face right before entering the road indicating she knew what was going on, the way she looks at him after entering the road as well as saying “It suits you.” when he says the road is just like he imagined, after Sharon dies she tells him “I didn’t know you had it in you.” and when he asks her what she means she just replies with a wink yet in hindsight it was clearly a reference to him essentially killing Sharon, etc.
One thing to note: in the fake Crime Drama opening credits, the lyrics sung was the original lyrics "Down, down the winding road", another indication of her subconscious trying to come out about her memory of her time with Nicholas.
I'd love if this channel did a video contrasting Agatha All Along and The Acolyte, and how similar both were (witches, songs, 2 flashback episodes), but why one succeeded and one failed.
I've written about that before as well, they take on Doom and Billy ended up creating a sentient bubble universe to seal Doom in cuz they couldn't defeat him outright lol
It now makes sense that Rio laughed so hard when "Death" was shown after they asked the Ouija "Who is here with us tonight". She knew Billy made the whole thing and he didnt know Rio was Death at that time but his mind randomly told the truth.
19:40 actually, in Episode 8 Rio said that Agatha was hiding Billy (which was possible due to the sigil). So She did mean "That boy isn't yours" as in "He's not Nikki". Which she would know as she has Nikki. She didn't know who Billy was; just who he wasn't.
Typically in comics, only insane characters like the Joker or Deadpool break the fourth wall. I think she cut the backdrop because she's an abstract entity like Eternity; therefore, she can't be bound by magic's rules. The only real rule she has to follow is don't draw the Living Tribunal's attention.
I think why Agatha was so pissed at Billy was because he literally said “earth magic with no green witch, we’re back to square one” and then they appeared back to the beginning, thus why she yells “you don’t know how to keep quiet“ at Billy. At this point she already had that inclination that what ever he speaks gets written into reality.
How about when Teen (Billy) was the only one who was attacked with shards of glass by the curse instead of fire? It was probably because the curse knew Billy was the one who created that reality. Maybe it knew to kill Billy so that it can escape or knew if that reality continued that the curse would be destroyed.
How about an anti-clue? I.e., a hint that the Road owed some of its existence to forces outside of Billy. In particular, every witch got what they were looking for, even though Billy wasn’t necessarily clear on what that was. Billy didn’t know, but the Road did. In particular, Alice got rid of the curse, Lorna got acceptance of her life and her death, Rio got the death of Agatha, and Kale found the witch who bound her. I think that was due to the coven singing the song. Some form of the Road was already ready and waiting until Billy pushed it all the way into existence. So many witches sang that song over so many years that it gained power and was no longer entirely a con.
I don't think Agatha was necessarily looking for someone to blast her once they got to the Witches' Road. Since she knew Billy had made it real, she likely (correctly) assumed that the Road could truly give you what you want at the end, which for her would probably be either power or Nicholas. While she ultimately didn't get what she wanted from the Road itself, all of the others did.
Adding to the Oz references by maybe a stretch, Wanda serves as an analogue to the Wicked Witch of the East (despite ruling a place called Westview). Her powers are coloured scarlet and can warp reality, much like the Ruby Slippers can technically do by granting wishes. She enslaves an entire populace (i.e. Munchkins), has a relationship with a metal man (in the books, the Witch is responsible for Tin Man's situation), and "dies" when a building collapses on her. Agatha's relationship with Billy mirrors that between Mombi and Princess Ozma in the books.
11:24 "We know Agatha did not trade her son for the Darkhold" do we? How do we know? Because we saw him wander off with Death in the flashback? I think you're WAY oversimplifying this point and taking it too literally. Agatha traded the Darkhold for her son, but got the Darkhold BEFORE she got her son basically a Rumpelstiltskin thing. Agatha got the Darkhold before her mother tried to kill her, because the whole reason the mother tried to kill her is because she went after "forbidden magic" AKA what's in the Darkhold. So yes, she did trade her son for the Darkhold as she wanted the power, and probably didn't really think she'd ever have a son.
11:35 Agatha is the one person that Wiccan can't read the mind of, so she's the one that the trials are vaguer for. Think about it: Jen's trial: Lillia and Jen saw people that Billy has never seen, but who they knew, and Alice and Lillia saw places Billy never saw, but were important to them. Meanwhile, Agatha heard a generic baby, saw a generic crib (which would not have have existed when Nikki was alive), and saw a book that Billy could know from seeing his Mother's memories before the hex went down. Agatha's trial: The House of each trial had meaning to each person (Jen said the house looked like it belonged to a client, Alice didn't want to step near her trial because of what it reminded her of, and Lillia's Mentor's castle was her trial), while Agatha's house had nothing to do with her, and it had the most noticeable items from Billy's room (as he didn't know what to fill it with) From what we know from Alice's trial is that The road makes Haunting invisible creatures more tangible (Alice's curse), so Billy just had to let spirits enter. Afterall, he knew that she was responsible for multiple deaths, so she's bound to have at least one vengeful spirit show up. Funny that Agatha's quote about Lillia's trial being a number's game was more true for her own trial. Billy's subconscious was betting that if ghosts were welcome, someone would come for Agatha. And it was the ghost who came up with the goal rather than the road: "punish Agatha". (Iirc The director confirmed that the punishment was Agatha seeing everyone's face as she killed Alice). I do wonder if he was partially able to read Rio's mind as the ouiji board made by the trial said don't ask about death(unless it was from his original board). Lillia's trial: This is when Agatha reminds the audience of the truth from Wandavision that Billy can't read Agatha's mind
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire from the generational curse. Alice told Lilia this in episode 4 when they were looking at the pictures on the wall. Alice said Lorna has to sell something after that tour.
Many times, they used our meta "This is just another silly Marvel quip" reflexes against us. You think, "Burn and brew with coven two" was just a silly line from a script punch-up to add a giggle or "true", but it turns out she was right. Lots of stuff like that when you rewatch.
Agatha didnt kill Alices mom, she died to the generational curse in a fire. In fact in a roundabout way, she invented the witches road song that Lorna Wu made into a protection spell for her daughter
You made a mistake here, Ryan. While the mystique of the Witches' Road was never real, the Woo curse was. So, Agatha Harkness never killed Lorna Woo, her family curse did.
So does this also mean Lilia knew the road was created by Bill too (at least by the time she was reading for him). The way she said “fitting” definitely seemed like she knew.
I think she started to speculate it could be, but the sigil kept her from really discussing it internally or externally. More like an instinctual understanding
Actually, Lorna died in a fire (definitely caused by the curse), as It was confirmed by Alice. She didn't want to know the truth about her mother's death. She says It herself after she lifts the curse.
I think it's two things. The curse was real having nothing to do with the Road being real or not. And it's maybe similar to Wanda finding herself in social exchanges that seemed to go against what she wanted and they're in her Hex that she's running. Until they themselves realize they made the reality they're all in, they're just as confused as everyone else and can unintentionally get themselves jammed up.
Did Billy bring the Rio and The Salem Seven into his Hex.? Is Mrs Hart/Sharon Davis still alive.? Why does Agatha tell Rio to, "plant some Azaleas on her why out.?
Why was Aghata playing detective in the first episode. Herm mentions that she has been a normal neighbor for 3 years, but right before Billy shows up, she started playing “police show”. They never really explain why is that
It's also weird that she just started that, but she connects Billy's accident from when the Hex went down, to be about an hour before the body was left in the woods.
It's because the spell Wanda cast started to get all wonky after her death/disappearance. It was still in place but no longer working correctly and Agatha was slowly making her way out of it via the same themes as Wandavision. Remember, the spell was based on her being "the nosey neighbor." So investigating her way out of the spell was how it manifested for her given the spell making her nosey in general and as a TV trope because the nosey neighbor character is a classic TV character.
THEORY- Tommy created The Witches Road, & multiple witches completed it and got back what was missing (some living, some dying). This means Tommy should be able to create TWR for other witches. Agatha could help these witches through multiple TWRs that Tommy creates. This could help her atone for all of the witches she killed to keep death busy to save Nicholas and the witches she killed with the original con.
@ i think she understands how TV works opposite from Cinema. Wanda had similar tropes but felt like wanted to be a Movie like most MCU D+ shows, Agatha in other Hand feels like oldschool TV.
@MetalHendrix. you're right, that's exactly what she focused on this time. From interviews (look up House of R) we can see she learned a lot from WV. She got more experienced writers than her, focused on references like Mare of Easttown that already know success and it worked out beautifully.
What I keep thinking about is in the last episode of WandaVision ,Agatha says to Wanda “you’re gonna need me” and Wanda saying in response “if I do, I know where to find you”. Did Wanda take the spell off Agatha so she could help find Wanda’s boys? The first episode of Agatha All Along starts with her in a tv crime show which is like what Wanda did in WandaVision and that different from what the spell Wanda put on her which was the nosies neighbor. Also why wasn’t the dead body explained which looked like Billy with the hoodie and the jeans and no shoes like on the witches road and why was Agatha’s necklace found near the body.
Could that have been foreshadowing her own death? She picked the brooch off of the floor in her ghost form, just as she picked it up from the ground in ep.1.
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@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
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The fact that Agatha was just using Billy like a chat gpt prompt on the road is so funny to me
Billy was literally the dungeon master.
A dungeon master that inserted his own character into the campaign.
I would sell my soul to Mephisto for that power to play dnd
😂😂😂
I mentioned this in another video but Agathas body becoming flowers mirrors the first episode where she sees Wanda's body but it's also just flowers
Everything was so perfectly crafted in the show. Jac, the cast and crew deserve all the flowers they have been getting.
Also, Rio never gets cursed in the challenge which should have been a clue that she wasn't bound by the "road"
Well "Rio" isn't a witch, and regardless of Billy's reality warping powers, her powers are even more grand, hence why she can slip in and out of this made up reality.
Neither was Billy, he just got tossed through a window.
@@Mike__B in episode 7, IIRC, we learn that Rio, aka Lady Death, IS in fact a witch... The original "green witch", which makes perfect sense because the green witch is tied to the cycle of living things giving way to death, which in turn gives way to new life.
And, when the other members of the coven first meet Rio, and they ask her if she's a green witch... Her response is "Less of A green witch, more of THE green witch!" with the last 3 words being spoken in an almost demonic voice.
Just because she's a cosmic being doesn't mean she can't also be a witch. I'm not trying to pretend that I understand, but I suppose if you're an immortal being, with cosmic levels of power and responsibility, if you wanted to learn magic, it should be fairly simple given that you already have "powers" and you have eternity to learn, given you're immortal.
@@Mike__B She IS a green witch and also lady death so it makes sense that she's not hindered by the road in any sense not because she's "not" a witch herself but she's just that powerful. That's why she's rarely ever seen with them on the road.
@@jedirayden I mean she predates all life in any Universe she exists in, and she's practically omnipotent at least when it comes to mortal beings, so I guess she can do whatever she wants. I feel the MCU kind of "messed up" Death anyways in the MCU-verse compared to her comic counterpart, she's just too damn yappy, Death is usually a very relative quite being.
The “I wish Lilia was here” scene was a turning point for how a lot of us viewed The Road
It was so much fun rewatching the series after seeing the finale! The number of easter eggs and foreshadowing was mind-blowing! It’s so satisfying putting all the puzzle pieces together! Now it makes sense why Agatha grew a liking to Billy in the early episodes. He reminded her so much of her son Nicky. Billy kinda took on Nicky’s role of being an accomplice to Agatha esp. when they were recruiting witches to go to the Witches’ Road
Unless I missed it in this vid, you guys missed the line where Agatha tells Billy one of the ways she knew he was Wanda's kid was they have the same tell. He asks what it is and she says wouldn't he like to know. The tell is that they both unknowingly made hexes in moments of extreme emotional stress based on the influences from their life and surroundings (Wanda the shows she used to watch and Billy from the stuff in his room which was related to the movies, music and art he enjoyed).
The minute he became truly afraid of the Salem 7, his powers mamifested the door to the Road.
rock on!
He really is a Maximoff, because none of those would've been that dramatic
Plus pragmatically, when Wanda created her hex, she didn't create space, she transformed Westview. And then here when they start walking the road, Mrs. Hart says all that she thought was underground was an abandoned subway system. So Billy was using that space to transform into the road. That's why they come full circle at the end, because there was only so much space.
And why the exit for Lidia and Jen was an abandoned subway tunnel.
This show just keeps getting better with every viewing.
Here's a fun thing I noticed this weekend when I was listening to the soundtrack - there's a "true crime" version of the ballad that's used as the credits for Agatha of Eastview. I totally had forgotten about it, but in order to fit in with the 'crime procedural' genre, it uses the lyrics 'down the winding road'....but that's actually closer to the original lyrics!
That scene of Agatha watching over Billy is breaking after seeing episode 9. No wonder she’s so adamant that Rio not to come close to Billy while he’s sleeping. The trauma of losing your on child is to much to handle, even after hundreds of years.
OMg. The re-watchability of this series was on par with Sixth Sense. So good.
Something I just realized Agatha keeps Billy away during the ballad so she won't kill him and she protects him every step of the road
Did anyone else notice the episode 1 “Winding Road” true-crime fantasy version sung by Matthew Mayfield is closer to the original song Nicky and Agatha came up with in episode 9? This show is brilliantly written.
My biggest unanswered question is, what happened to the rabbit?
Originally they planned for him to go on the road and have an arc as well, but it was too much bloat. I think he's gonna get possessed by Nicky, influenced by Mephisto, and that's how we see old man Nicky, via him sacrificing animals to manifest. Would be very fitting
@@dumbguy1007 yep, Mephisto🍻🤣
I definitely thought Tommy was in the bunny
Alice is the bunny now, or Lilia, maybe Sharon. They shared.
@wytheli LMFAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO all 3 just bickering over if they have another carrot or some grass LMAAAOOOOOOO
In episode 8 when they end up back at the shoes... Billy gets yelled by a pissed off Agatha. Then when they are thinking about what to do next, Billy starts tobsay "Maybe...." but is cut off angrily by Agatha. Something like "if you dont know then keep quiet!"
If he verbalizes a what if then she knows he may conjure it into existence so she doesnt want to give him the chance.
The moment the Salem Seven truly scare Billy, his powers manifest the door to the Witches Road. It was definitely reactionary.
“Are you sure” is so much creepier knowing what it meant cus it was creepy asf b4 lol
This is from episode 7, but I dunno how many more AAA vids we're getting. I haven't seen anyone else mention this anywhere. It's a deep cut for the live music fans out there. Alice's Tarot card with the knight-like protector on it has the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheater profile shot as the background of the card. According to the convo her and Billy had during the first trial, she was with her mom on the Red Rocks stop of a tour when she was 13 and got the protection tattoo (which I'd also theorize is what made her a protection witch as well). But yeah, go look up Red Rocks Amphitheater and compare the profile image of the venue with the rock on the back of the card. It's exactly the same. 🎸🎶
@@gavino299 wooooooooow 🤯🥰
I don't think Agatha killed Lorna Wu. I think she burned because of the curse...
She didn't, Alice said her mother died on the road, but not the witches' road. On tour
@@StrangeStartrackerArt the curse got her when she was “on the road”, in a fire. Which tracks with the form the curse took when we saw it on the witches road.
All through the series there was talk about no one surviving the road, but the thing they weren't surviving was Agatha herself and the road was the perfect cover for why all these witches died.
@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
Teaching him that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. Underlining her later sacrifice as something he shouldn't take away from her. I'm getting chills lol it's just so good
She was sincere with him on a lot of things, telling him the Road isn't real, and even laying out to him, while omitting one important detail, that they just need to gather some witchy enough people to generate a spark they can use.
Charlie over at Emergency Awesome Predicted nearly everything that came to be by the end of the show from the start. Kudos to Charlie, well done sir!
We should have known the road was fake in episode 2 when it glowed with Billy's blue magic instead of Agatha's purple.
That was my tell. And he runs down the stairs scared, I figured that emotion caused it just like Mommy.
Not much of a clue at that point. We hadn’t met Billy’s color. There were multiple witches that sang, not just Agatha. In retrospect, though, yeah!
@@dzerkle for non comic readers i could see this show being really surprising. But for me, it was telegraphed extremely clearly from the moment he's even breaking in lol
I just realized what was happening during the police station scenes with Harold. She was likely at his house during those scenes. That's why he comes in turns off the light and tells her to go home. It's probably his office or den or something and he's like, ok I've gone with it long enough today. 😂
How about... EVERY CLUE That RIO is DEATH?
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire while on tour, "on the road', the rumor she died on the witches' road started cause she popularized the ballad and other witches assumed her fans were her coven and she was trying to open the road and she did eventually then died on it (Alice confirms she died on tour during one of the episodes and it also explains her hallucination in the sauna) but we know it was actually a protection spell for Alice
This show was masterfully written.
GO DISNEY GO!! Everything they're doing with Marvel in the MCU is AWESOME. Agatha All Along is a total vibe, and Billy Maximoff is hands down the best character -he's got so much potential! The hype is real for Avengers Secret Wars, and Ijust know Spider-Man is going to play a huge role. Plus, seeing Robert Downey Jr. as Doomsday in Avengers is going to be insane! And don't even get me started on Loki, WandaVision, and finally getting Deadpool & Wolverine together this year! Keep it coming, Disney. :)
She not only didn't trade the darkhold for Nicky, she also never had an actual crib. So that was a big clue by four for her.
The crib was a symbol. I absolutely believe she did trade the Darkhold for her first born son, later to be named Nicky.
Billy was TORTURING Agatha, all along.
I knew this show is going to be so re-watchable when i heard Agatha humming Down the witches road in that opening scene 😮, took me completely by surprise like how didn't we remember that all
Agatha didn't kill Lorna Wu...
The abandoned subway station appeared because they were actually under Westview. Lilia actually asked Jen to return to the hex because she knew she'd regain her powers there even if the Road was fake. I loved Lilia's character.
0:51. Insert the moment from Mrs. Doubtfire. The-**THE WHOLE TIME!?!?**
Episode 1 - 9:30
"It's been a long time."
"What are you doing here?"
"My job"
Rio literally tells us why she's there right from the start.
@@greywithana the LAYERRRSSSSSSSSS
One of my favorite “I missed it the first time” moments is when Billy says the thing he wants from the road is power, Agatha switches from leaned-in and vested to dismissing him. We wanted her to be a good guy anti-hero so we took her dissuading him and dismissing him, saying “it’s too dangerous” at face value. In reality, she just couldn’t be bothered with him anymore, believing that he didn’t have any power for her to steal.
Hah, mom did tv shows, he did films. Super cute detail.
I like the storytelling style of this and wandavision... a big arc that you get excited to rewatch to catch the details that seemed tiny, if noticed. That's why I liked dr.who #9 & #10.
This also gives me hope for the Marvel brand for film/TV.
The ENTIRE Witches Road was one big trial for Agatha. She created the song with her son. That song was used to rob other witches of their power. The story of the Witches Road is Agatha Harkness' story. I love that she's comic accurate now after sacrificing herself. Great series 👏
I noticed Billy started every trial, but not that William Fuld on the Ouija box might mean Billy Maximoff, or Billy Fooled (everyone)
No that's the actual guy.
12:29 Billy is a friend of Dorothy confirmed!
In episode 3, the actual reason Agatha saw that fantasy because Billy can read all the minds and see the deepest traumas (like her mother) but Aghata's.
17:52 hey look, Vision and Wanda on the left poster.
The Houdini poster could’ve also influenced the water trap in the first trial 👀
This show was hella fun.
I love how the ballad meant different things to agatha in different stages of her life. I also love how she was taken with billy so much for not just being the son of a powerful witch who could create a hex of his own, but because he materialized something that she dreamed of with her own son
This level of exposition is unheard of
7:46 Oh, dang! Probably. Agatha probably wanted royalties for the song she and Nicholas wrote.
Congrats on predicting one of the Treehouse of Horror segments with your Denim t-shirt.
Another hint was when Billy says "we're back to square one," theen they come upon their shoes they left at the start.
i disagree that agatha saw the dark hold in the crib bc billy heard about it. the other visions are deeply personal and don't include something billy already knew
Billy can't read Agatha's mind tho
Nobody talks about the reference to the TV show the Travelers. Who were only able to travel to the body of some one who just recently died. But in precise timing so it looks like they didnt .
BEST MCU SHOW hands down! Bravo 🙌🏽
Wow Marvel shows really are sad if this is the best
@@Dan55888your toxic perspective is irrelevant to us babe
Interesting that you suggest Agatha knew all along that the Road was created by Billy. I'd be curious what leads you to this idea. Even with us (the viewers) now knowing that Billy created it as a Hex, my inclination is to think that Agatha didn't necessarily know this, but basically just didn't know why the Road had come to exist - she was confused and trying to figure it out; or, just trying to cheat and survive however she could. Or just not taking it seriously, in general.
In the finale they give us clips which essentially show Agatha knew all along or at least ever since the road appeared. In the flashbacks Billy when realizing the truth we’re shown various clips of Agatha looking at him or saying things that indicate she knew from way back like the way she looked at him when he entered the basement after the door appeared, the smirk on her face right before entering the road indicating she knew what was going on, the way she looks at him after entering the road as well as saying “It suits you.” when he says the road is just like he imagined, after Sharon dies she tells him “I didn’t know you had it in you.” and when he asks her what she means she just replies with a wink yet in hindsight it was clearly a reference to him essentially killing Sharon, etc.
One thing to note: in the fake Crime Drama opening credits, the lyrics sung was the original lyrics "Down, down the winding road", another indication of her subconscious trying to come out about her memory of her time with Nicholas.
I'd love if this channel did a video contrasting Agatha All Along and The Acolyte, and how similar both were (witches, songs, 2 flashback episodes), but why one succeeded and one failed.
The design on his chair in his room looks also like the different phases of the moon.
This show is officially better than LOKI , Jac Shaeffer is a mastermind
I don't know why but I really love this show and the Billy character that I want make fanfic story with him being doctor strange apprentice.
I've written about that before as well, they take on Doom and Billy ended up creating a sentient bubble universe to seal Doom in cuz they couldn't defeat him outright lol
@nailinthefashion that nice
@@johncarter2069 you should read Strange Academy and Strikeforce if you want more magic and young adult themes!
That memorial Billy makes in the basement floor is some obvious evidence of where those three missing women's bodies are...😂
I love the channel and love your presentation but a few of these were a stretch lol
Thanx for the videos ♥️
It now makes sense that Rio laughed so hard when "Death" was shown after they asked the Ouija "Who is here with us tonight". She knew Billy made the whole thing and he didnt know Rio was Death at that time but his mind randomly told the truth.
You missed "gosh, you really are a maximoff, or none of this would be nearly as dramatic"
19:40 actually, in Episode 8 Rio said that Agatha was hiding Billy (which was possible due to the sigil). So She did mean "That boy isn't yours" as in "He's not Nikki". Which she would know as she has Nikki. She didn't know who Billy was; just who he wasn't.
Super proud of myself for picking up on ALL of theses EXCEPT Agatha watching over Billy cuz that’s how nick was taken 😢😢😢
Do we think Rio cutting into the “set backdrop” is like physically breaking the fourth wall?
Typically in comics, only insane characters like the Joker or Deadpool break the fourth wall. I think she cut the backdrop because she's an abstract entity like Eternity; therefore, she can't be bound by magic's rules. The only real rule she has to follow is don't draw the Living Tribunal's attention.
I think why Agatha was so pissed at Billy was because he literally said “earth magic with no green witch, we’re back to square one” and then they appeared back to the beginning, thus why she yells “you don’t know how to keep quiet“ at Billy. At this point she already had that inclination that what ever he speaks gets written into reality.
The horror.
The horror.
The body was Agatha
The Road was a teenager’s dream escape room
Thx for adding the "ur mom" joke last week ..I keep asking for them & you delivered ....
Like ur mom😝😝
Are there any clues we missed?
How about... EVERY CLUE That RIO is DEATH?
When Billy said ( because the green witch is MIA) we are back at square one …. They are suddenly back to the location of their shoes
How about when Teen (Billy) was the only one who was attacked with shards of glass by the curse instead of fire? It was probably because the curse knew Billy was the one who created that reality. Maybe it knew to kill Billy so that it can escape or knew if that reality continued that the curse would be destroyed.
How about an anti-clue? I.e., a hint that the Road owed some of its existence to forces outside of Billy. In particular, every witch got what they were looking for, even though Billy wasn’t necessarily clear on what that was. Billy didn’t know, but the Road did. In particular, Alice got rid of the curse, Lorna got acceptance of her life and her death, Rio got the death of Agatha, and Kale found the witch who bound her.
I think that was due to the coven singing the song. Some form of the Road was already ready and waiting until Billy pushed it all the way into existence. So many witches sang that song over so many years that it gained power and was no longer entirely a con.
Your Segway game from content to advertisements is second-to-none.
I don't think Agatha was necessarily looking for someone to blast her once they got to the Witches' Road. Since she knew Billy had made it real, she likely (correctly) assumed that the Road could truly give you what you want at the end, which for her would probably be either power or Nicholas. While she ultimately didn't get what she wanted from the Road itself, all of the others did.
Adding to the Oz references by maybe a stretch, Wanda serves as an analogue to the Wicked Witch of the East (despite ruling a place called Westview). Her powers are coloured scarlet and can warp reality, much like the Ruby Slippers can technically do by granting wishes. She enslaves an entire populace (i.e. Munchkins), has a relationship with a metal man (in the books, the Witch is responsible for Tin Man's situation), and "dies" when a building collapses on her. Agatha's relationship with Billy mirrors that between Mombi and Princess Ozma in the books.
11:24 "We know Agatha did not trade her son for the Darkhold" do we? How do we know? Because we saw him wander off with Death in the flashback? I think you're WAY oversimplifying this point and taking it too literally. Agatha traded the Darkhold for her son, but got the Darkhold BEFORE she got her son basically a Rumpelstiltskin thing. Agatha got the Darkhold before her mother tried to kill her, because the whole reason the mother tried to kill her is because she went after "forbidden magic" AKA what's in the Darkhold. So yes, she did trade her son for the Darkhold as she wanted the power, and probably didn't really think she'd ever have a son.
11:35 Agatha is the one person that Wiccan can't read the mind of, so she's the one that the trials are vaguer for. Think about it:
Jen's trial:
Lillia and Jen saw people that Billy has never seen, but who they knew, and Alice and Lillia saw places Billy never saw, but were important to them.
Meanwhile, Agatha heard a generic baby, saw a generic crib (which would not have have existed when Nikki was alive), and saw a book that Billy could know from seeing his Mother's memories before the hex went down.
Agatha's trial:
The House of each trial had meaning to each person (Jen said the house looked like it belonged to a client, Alice didn't want to step near her trial because of what it reminded her of, and Lillia's Mentor's castle was her trial), while Agatha's house had nothing to do with her, and it had the most noticeable items from Billy's room (as he didn't know what to fill it with)
From what we know from Alice's trial is that The road makes Haunting invisible creatures more tangible (Alice's curse), so Billy just had to let spirits enter. Afterall, he knew that she was responsible for multiple deaths, so she's bound to have at least one vengeful spirit show up. Funny that Agatha's quote about Lillia's trial being a number's game was more true for her own trial. Billy's subconscious was betting that if ghosts were welcome, someone would come for Agatha. And it was the ghost who came up with the goal rather than the road: "punish Agatha". (Iirc The director confirmed that the punishment was Agatha seeing everyone's face as she killed Alice). I do wonder if he was partially able to read Rio's mind as the ouiji board made by the trial said don't ask about death(unless it was from his original board).
Lillia's trial:
This is when Agatha reminds the audience of the truth from Wandavision that Billy can't read Agatha's mind
Did Billy create the Salem Seven? If not, how did they enter his illusion?
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire from the generational curse. Alice told Lilia this in episode 4 when they were looking at the pictures on the wall. Alice said Lorna has to sell something after that tour.
In Nicholas' room in the first episode he won an award for best song
Many times, they used our meta "This is just another silly Marvel quip" reflexes against us. You think, "Burn and brew with coven two" was just a silly line from a script punch-up to add a giggle or "true", but it turns out she was right. Lots of stuff like that when you rewatch.
Agatha didnt kill Alices mom, she died to the generational curse in a fire. In fact in a roundabout way, she invented the witches road song that Lorna Wu made into a protection spell for her daughter
You made a mistake here, Ryan. While the mystique of the Witches' Road was never real, the Woo curse was. So, Agatha Harkness never killed Lorna Woo, her family curse did.
When they take their shoes off and start walking the road Sharron also is kinda skipping like Dorothy from the wizard of Oz
So does this also mean Lilia knew the road was created by Bill too (at least by the time she was reading for him). The way she said “fitting” definitely seemed like she knew.
I think she started to speculate it could be, but the sigil kept her from really discussing it internally or externally. More like an instinctual understanding
Actually, Lorna died in a fire (definitely caused by the curse), as It was confirmed by Alice. She didn't want to know the truth about her mother's death. She says It herself after she lifts the curse.
Why did Billy get himself hurt to the point where he almost died
I think it's two things. The curse was real having nothing to do with the Road being real or not. And it's maybe similar to Wanda finding herself in social exchanges that seemed to go against what she wanted and they're in her Hex that she's running. Until they themselves realize they made the reality they're all in, they're just as confused as everyone else and can unintentionally get themselves jammed up.
I feel like Agatha’s guilt about Nicholas is that she used him to murder others from the day he was born to almost the day that he died
How come when Billy says I wish we were home, they don’t magically arrive home.
7:49 No, Alice clearly states that her mom died in a hotel room fire while on tour. The family curse got her not Agatha
I'm hoping that Billy creation of the witches road will make it real
Did Billy bring the Rio and The Salem Seven into his Hex.?
Is Mrs Hart/Sharon Davis still alive.?
Why does Agatha tell Rio to, "plant some Azaleas on her why out.?
God, this show is amazing!
I know it’s silly, but it’s always nice to see Leia
Why was Aghata playing detective in the first episode. Herm mentions that she has been a normal neighbor for 3 years, but right before Billy shows up, she started playing “police show”. They never really explain why is that
It's also weird that she just started that, but she connects Billy's accident from when the Hex went down, to be about an hour before the body was left in the woods.
It's because the spell Wanda cast started to get all wonky after her death/disappearance. It was still in place but no longer working correctly and Agatha was slowly making her way out of it via the same themes as Wandavision. Remember, the spell was based on her being "the nosey neighbor." So investigating her way out of the spell was how it manifested for her given the spell making her nosey in general and as a TV trope because the nosey neighbor character is a classic TV character.
@@gavino299 Kudos for that insight. I haven't seen that anywhere else
I picked up on the hints but thought it was that agatha was bluffing about having been on the road before, an ego play about her greatness.
THEORY- Tommy created The Witches Road, & multiple witches completed it and got back what was missing (some living, some dying). This means Tommy should be able to create TWR for other witches. Agatha could help these witches through multiple TWRs that Tommy creates. This could help her atone for all of the witches she killed to keep death busy to save Nicholas and the witches she killed with the original con.
Jac Schaeffer should Run Disney Plus MCU.
Its crazy how inexperienced she is. I think that gives her an edge, makes her more ambitious and whatnot.
@ i think she understands how TV works opposite from Cinema. Wanda had similar tropes but felt like wanted to be a Movie like most MCU D+ shows, Agatha in other Hand feels like oldschool TV.
@MetalHendrix. you're right, that's exactly what she focused on this time. From interviews (look up House of R) we can see she learned a lot from WV. She got more experienced writers than her, focused on references like Mare of Easttown that already know success and it worked out beautifully.
What I keep thinking about is in the last episode of WandaVision ,Agatha says to Wanda “you’re gonna need me” and Wanda saying in response “if I do, I know where to find you”. Did Wanda take the spell off Agatha so she could help find Wanda’s boys? The first episode of Agatha All Along starts with her in a tv crime show which is like what Wanda did in WandaVision and that different from what the spell Wanda put on her which was the nosies neighbor. Also why wasn’t the dead body explained which looked like Billy with the hoodie and the jeans and no shoes like on the witches road and why was Agatha’s necklace found near the body.
Could that have been foreshadowing her own death? She picked the brooch off of the floor in her ghost form, just as she picked it up from the ground in ep.1.