+Cinemaniac Jean Captain America was okay, I guess, but think Tony Stark. That was a perfect one and last time I checked Deadpool was not DC, do not confuse deathstroke.
+Kwestyung Exactly. I feel like Grace hasn't been reading the New 52 and Suicide Squad because Harley feels exactly like those interpretations in this film.
I disagree with the "never had a really smart female Batman villain" point. I think Poison Ivy is much smarter than Harley. Ivy has a doctorate, expert plant knowledge and uses manipulation probably better than Harley ever could. Talia al Ghul and Lady Shiva are master strategists with incomparable fighting styles. Catwoman may not be the smartest but she's a master of stealth and manipulates even Batman. Female Batman villains are generally lacking in number though so I can see why people would think this.
Brandon Reed nah i agree the twist didn't really work for me but i still proclaim the dark knight rises was a movie that was completely changed because of heath ledger dying and also to fix the god awful abomination that was Bane in batman and Robin
I can just say that I feel like Margot will join Ryan (deadpool), Robert(ironman), Krysten(Jessica jones) as the actor/actreess who is the character in a comic book movie/tv series. I'm inlove with her!
Harley is not and has never been dumb. She can however be naive. In some cases (especially when dealing with the Joker). She understands how the human mind works and uses that to her advantage. She plays the ditz to throw people off. She holds her cards and waits to play them. I'd love so much if that instead of bombs, they are hooked up to some toxin that Waller can trigger, then at the end of it the switch is pulled by Waller to (deal with loose ends) and she shrugs it off, noting that she gained immunity to that stuff from an old flame (Poison Ivy), and that she just wanted the adventure.
That's actually a really good point! The weird graffiti looks to be a message from the joker. For instance the love heart on the mannequin upon which the purse sits and the writing on the other mannequins which reads Si vis pacem, para bellum (If you want peace, prepare for war) Can't believe I never noticed that before, all I saw was Harleys butt...
Harley sleeping to get ahead in her classes has been in canon since day one. I still think she is very smart, but she never had good intentions with becoming a psychologist in the first place.
Magalinnda Clavien She was smart. I think she's always been smart to some degree, I'm not sure what Grace is on about when she implies that Harley has always been stupid and is only showing her brain in this movie.
Grace is amazing at observation. I don't know anything about dissecting footage and such but when I first saw this clip I immediately noticed and very much so liked Harley's facial expressions without her Sauk g a word. I thought no one would really mention that and then BAM, one of the first things Grace mentions.
Come on Grace, "They've never had a really smart female Batman villain." One of the best things about Batman's rogue gallery is that most of them are super smart people. Scientists, academics, doctors. This for females too, Dr. Pamela Isley an Dr. Harleen Quinzel, Catwoman would be the exception but she is extremely smart and same goes for Thalia. I'm excited for this too, but you're overselling it a bit. Harley has always been super smart. She plays dumb that's a different thing.
I would disagree, she is clearly making sure that she never hit anything with the bomb mallet. when she attacks batman she makes hysterical noises but makes it easy for him to throw her away and counter it all wihout it touching him, as well as very carefully placing it up against the wall before the electro shock scene. when the joker threatens deadshots life she tries to reason that there is no point. as well as tricking the batman himself when she gets arrested into gotham by using the excuse of finding the doll to get caught, she also tells him she doesn't know where it is and finds ways around the lie detector.
I think Harley is both a ditz and an evil genius. She is crazy after all and can certainly have multiple aspects to her personality. I do like this portrayal of Harley. I'm really looking forward to this movie.
8:15 Not exactly everything. Don't forget, their relationship is still abusive. Joker does backhand Harley in the leaked footage from about a year ago and there will probably be more of that.
I think you're over selling how smart Harley Quinn is. She was a psychiatrist but lets not forget she basically ended up a plaything for Joker. If anything I bet you he betrays her somehow in this movie, even if you read the comics Harley isn't really the type of person to always be plotting, she's suppose to be crazy, fun and damaged and I think that's what really makes her character. That one scene where she's holding the pistol and looking worried 7:00 "that's a very smart individual" ya idk about that, that's the same look anyone peeking around a corner makes.
I never thought Harley was dumb just very blinded by love. Even back in the Animated series I remember moments she let the ditz facade slip here and there.
Harley being smart isn't really a new interpretation. There has been interpretations where a big reason why she fell for the Joker was because she had been an overachiever all her life and she's always trying to meet other people's expectations but when she's with the Joker, she can be completely free and not care about consequences.
Actually sometimes the director tells them if they can do the action scene do it but if you can't the will bring a stunt double and if you watch the behind the scenes Margot Robbie did that elevator scene by herself
That moment of them laughing together rose my excitement for this movie by 10 and trust me I was VERY excited for this movie! Absolute perfection. My childhood is coming to life!
But she's not a genius manipulator is what she means. Sure she uses her sex appeal, but this Harley can get into people's heads and fool them by acting ditsy and dumb, when in reality she's a total badass.
I don't know if you read the Suicide squad comics, but in "The Hunt for Harley Quinn", she was heavily underestimated by a prison employee who deactivated her bomb "because she's just a girl, what is she going to do?". Harley Quinn then caused a prison riot and escaped. When the squad caught up to her, Deadshot and more so Savant expected to take Harley down in a matter of seconds. Even though Savant has been warned by Deadshot stating "she is dangerous", he started fighting her recklessly. Thus, she used her superior acrobatics to lure him onto a pressure landmine and won. Deadshot was knocked out by Harley's hammer, which he took directly to his helmet. She proceeded to put Joker's face on Deadshot and let her guard down, which he used to sucker punch her with a bullet to the guts. Luckily, she has a healing factor and survived. It showed Joker is Harley's strength and weakness as his "death" caused her to snap and defeat people rated as much stronger than her, while also being the reason she lost in the end when his sight made her feel safe. She defeated Killer Croc in the original comics, where he is a much more monstrous version than the movie one. Also, she was injured and Croc had the initial suprise attack on his side. It really shows Harley Quinn is lethal if underestimated and/or if she has a goal/is paired with Joker. Like you said, they seem to be a team rather than a mastermind and an escape goat. I can't wait to see how she's gonna mess with the squad.
4:07 - Interestingly, the Guardian did an article a little while back about how stunt work is actually a bit more dangerous for women than men because they often have to do the stunts in heels or skimpier outfits and stuff, meaning it can be harder for them to keep their balance, and they can't hide as much protective padding under their clothing as men often can. They've started using the same tricks as ice skaters, like skin coloured pads, to better protect themselves.
Margot Robbie's portrayal of Harley Quinn reminds me so much of the antagonist Mona Vanderwaal from Pretty Little Liars Mona pretends to just be the "It girl" of her high school and plays dumb but she is actually an evil genius who is stalking the friends of the girl who she convinced to leave town because she knew that the girl she drove away would figure that it was Mona who was talking her friends.
Alot of the cool scenes that the characters are doing.They actually did most if not all their own stunts.They practiced alot.Somewhere it actually shows the director talking about how he wanted them to do most of the moves cause it make the movie better.
If you look it up- She did all her stunts. This was the one they said blew their minds. Also never talk out of your ass about Batman villains. There are plenty formidable female villains and Harley has always been devious.
*minor spoilers* (I've only ever seen batman movies and not actually read the comics so I only know what they're like in this movie) What I really like about harley and joker's relationship is that even though it's probably not healthy at all (mostly for harley I'd say) it brings out some pretty unexpected (to me at least) sides of their characters. Like the joker never seemed to me like the kind of guy who would care enough about another person to want to keep them close to him and actually put himself in danger to try to protect them. I don't know if you could say he actually loves her bc he's still pretty crazy but it does kinda make him feel a little more human.
I think Harley started out as more of his sidekick/groupie (flashbacks) but later on and by the time of the movie she evolved as an evil genius. Which is awesome because it gives her character growth.
In one of the Suicide Squad comics people don't think Harley can do much because she doesn't have powers but she was a Doctor, people just underestimate her.She ended up making a whole prison breakout only for the people in charge to get distracted and for her to escape you never know what goes on in her mind. Batman has had smart female villains, If they weren't they wouldn't be able to do the things they do when it comes to the crimes they commit.
Hi Grace! do you think there will be cameos of other DC characters in the movie? similar to how the mcu throws a crappie ton of people in end credit scenes? lol
Loved watching this break down, it's so great to see your enthusiasm - mine matches !! I'm so hyped for this movie! I really hope they carry this super smart Harley onto the comics,though that's almost how I've always seen her - she is a psychologist after all - reminds me of a theory post I saw somewhere that describes an idea that Harley went all this way to change herself and be close to the joker to actually stop him going too big e.g. he gets an idea to poison the entirety of Gotham with a flash bomb but she convinces him instead to poison the water supply which, unbeknownst to joker, gives Batman time to stop their plans. I love the idea of Harley being a super mad genius but with a kind of control on it all.
I love Margot Robbie for going out and getting every Harley Quinn book she could find when she got the role, reading them all, and figuring out a way to make the character's motivation her own. Her interviews have been great. Fingers crossed for her (and this movie)!!!!
Reports from people that visited the set said that the cast did a majority of their stunts, and the elevator scene was one of them. So kudos to Margot Robbie, I'm in love and cant wait !
I remember Batman saying something like "Harley was never very smart", in the arkham videogames. I don't think she's a brilliant person. She is astute, it's different
I suppose she could be considered "astute" in terms of her ability to read and manipulate people. But she's also very resourceful and quick-thinking. And she demonstrates the ability to put together and execute a brilliant plan in "Mad Love." If the Arkham games portrayed her as "never very smart," then they did a disservice to her character. She's ditzy, not dumb. Those aren't the same thing.
Marvel has some really great actors that embody their characters too. I mean Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr are basically what hold up the entire cinematic universe.
Michelle Pfeiffer's performance as Catwoman is one of the best comic book performances of all time. I'm hopeful Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn is up to the task of being just as great.
awesome comparisons Grace. Changes to Harley are very subtle but at the core I still see my Harley Quinn from the Animated series and the Arkham Video games so nothing is wrong with adding to new things to these amazing Grace.
'Batman Returns' is not only my favorite Batman movie, favorite superhero movie even, but actually rests right outside my top ten all-time list. And Michelle Pfeffier is a pretty big reason for that. And you making that comparison (I too hadn't noticed from the trailers) really sparked my expectations for what 'Suicide Squad' could be.
grace i have a theory i saw a video in which they organized all the footage from clips and trailers and i believe i found what really is the relationship with joker and harley. SPOILERS IN WHICH CASE IM RIGHT so first the joker and harley have sessions whatever but when joker escapes arkaham he realizes an opportunity to lure batman in various situations. First when their car chase turns south and they crash joker escapes and leaves harley behind so he doesnot really care. and afterwise when she is in midway city joker only lures her to get either info or an artifact from her and then drops her off the elevator but deadshot saves her and then they go to the bar. does it make any sense?
Grace you're going to love this remember the scene in Batman Returns where Catwoman comes cartwheeling up to the window the the shrek department store and presses her face and hands up against the logo on the glass? In the Assault on Arkham cartoon Harley Quinn does almost the exact same thing with the toy store window it even has a very similar logo. Has anyone else noticed this?
well harley was never dumb just blinded by (mad) love. in the batman animated series by bruce timm there is one episode where she almost kill batman on her own, only be stopped by the joker because he doesn't want his favorit toy (batman) be killed by someone who wasn't him
Its like you haven't known Harley Quinn for awhile, she's always been really smart and covers it up But we can admit, Grace has a total lady bone for Harley, you're flattering her more than I would
When she's in private, she is still easily distracted and focused on her looks. So I wasn't sold on the evil genius. I think that when women use their sex appeal to get power from men (not have power to themselves, but get it second hand through someone else) that it's a dependent thing to do, I think it's easy, you don't have to be a genius to know how to do it. So I'm still not sold. Though she may be a fun character, I don't think she's going to be different in that she isn't a fangirl or ditzy. Maybe more evil than usual ... but not sold on the genius. But not just with her, the joker also. I thought they look like they're advertised as fun sexy villains.
This is just a thought/idea.... It seems like she doesn't get the jacket and chocker until later in the film. Does she possibly meet up with the Joker and that's when she receives these items?
Blown away already!!!❤️❤️❤️🔫🔫Harley is her own woman and you can see that in this trailer for sure!!!and you can tell she loves being in a relationship when she is like "awwwwwwww"at the text message❤️❤️❤️love you grace❤️❤️
The real question here is where did she get the phone from?.hahahaha this movie will be awesome.btw Grace,according to set reports she did most of her stunts by herself after a couple of months of training.
+kevin murillo no cause if u pause it it has a diamond pattern on the lower half of the case which means it's her phone cause she got diamond pattern on everything lol
Hey Grace:D I was reading the set visit reports and everyone who i have read or heard on podcast said they were blown away because Margot Robbie did not use a stunt double for the elevator sequence and it was in fact 100% her doing the drop kick stunt :) just though i'd let you know :) keep up the good work😆🔷♦️🔷♦️🔷♦️
Hi Grace do you think if Margot Robbie if plays the role well as Harly Quinn in Suicide Squad , do you think she will surpass Michelle Phifer as Cat woman in Batman Returns ?
I think you're giving this more hype than it should have honestly. Harley Quinn here is basically Anne Hathaways catwoman acting like a 13 year old on a play date.
In the freeze frame of Harley giggling her butt dead shot is totally looking at everyone being like how stupid are these people? Can't they see how smart she is?
I'm dying, I've waited so long to see this I'm just as psyched about Harley and the team as u and just found out my only cinema isn't screening it... God 123 movies had better get it (btw I agree 100% with u she's suddenly so scheming it's awesome, also ur so pretty!)
Harley is a smart girl, she has always been smart and in the animated series she almost kills batman. The only problem with harley is that she loves Joker and she will make anything to follow him. In the animated series she makes a lot off stuff: she gets closer to joker in the asylum (she fooled a lot of the doctors there), she gets into the asylum and releases joker ALONE (I repeat, she breaks into arkham and takes joker ALONE) and she ALMOST KILLS BATMAN. She is a very childish character, but is portrayed in this way as a symptom of her abusive relationship with joker (and also to balance other characters like joker, batman, poison etc). Also, If we remember the gotham city sirens comics she breaks into arkham ALONE AGAIN and manipulated psychologically the guards (something that we see here). Also, and no less important.... she stayed with the joker all this years... and she is ALIVE PEOPLE. How much would any of us will last with joker? It means that she survived all the games, death threats and twisted situations that joker put her into. Her intelligence and knowledge in psychiatry made this possible. (Sorry about my english xD). I like your analysis ! XO
As we have discussed the origins of why Harley Quinn was created do you think how Joker has evolved in each version from Cesar Romero till Jared Leto's take why can't Harley evolve with each version?
I agree that they're making her more intelligent, but let's not forget that she played Batman in the Animated Series and captured him by pretending she needed help. She beat Batman by herself, and it would be really interesting to see an intellectual equal to Batman in Harley Quinn. Although there are villains like Talia, Shiva and Poison Ivy who are intelligent in their own ways, none are crazy intelligent, something that only Harley Quinn could provide. Super excited!!
This film may have Will Smith and Jared Leto in it. But I think it's safe to say the majority of us are seeing this for Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn!
Agree 100%
More interested in the captain
+diego martinez
Boomerang?
+Stephen Montez yeah
Robbie walked away with this movie a while ago. Will Smith who?
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn is as perfect as Ben Affleck as Batman......
Can't tell if you're saying that's a good or bad thing?
trust me, that's a good thing
+iMeltYT Ben Affleck is Bruce Wayne/Batman. Perfect casting
Or Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.
+Cinemaniac Jean
Captain America was okay, I guess, but think Tony Stark. That was a perfect one and last time I checked Deadpool was not DC, do not confuse deathstroke.
margot robbie did most of her own stunts and a news report says she did the elvator scene herself
Harley was always smarter than she seemed in the comics this isnt new
And the Arkham video games
Yeah, she hasn't been "classic" Harley for some time now. This Harley seems completely based on the new 52 one.
+Kwestyung Classic Harley is also pretty smart. As she was one of the closest to killing batman
I know right?! Im pretty sure beyond the trailer saw like 2 episodes of batman the animated series and made her conclusion from there
+Kwestyung Exactly. I feel like Grace hasn't been reading the New 52 and Suicide Squad because Harley feels exactly like those interpretations in this film.
I disagree with the "never had a really smart female Batman villain" point. I think Poison Ivy is much smarter than Harley. Ivy has a doctorate, expert plant knowledge and uses manipulation probably better than Harley ever could. Talia al Ghul and Lady Shiva are master strategists with incomparable fighting styles. Catwoman may not be the smartest but she's a master of stealth and manipulates even Batman. Female Batman villains are generally lacking in number though so I can see why people would think this.
Harley also has a doctorate
Harley also has a doctorate
Harley also has a doctorate
Her fight scenes are AMAZING
Poison Ivy is really smart female batman villain
i think grace means in the movies?
Brandon Reed was she?... she teamed up with the only villain who's plan doesn't correlate with hers.. Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy teaming up was stupid
And Catwoman and Talia Al'Ghul
Mr_SWAT_585 Brandon Reed actually you know what i agree with you there Talia Al'Ghul is very smart in comics and the dark knight rises..
Brandon Reed nah i agree the twist didn't really work for me but i still proclaim the dark knight rises was a movie that was completely changed because of heath ledger dying and also to fix the god awful abomination that was Bane in batman and Robin
I can just say that I feel like Margot will join Ryan (deadpool), Robert(ironman), Krysten(Jessica jones) as the actor/actreess who is the character in a comic book movie/tv series. I'm inlove with her!
i totally agree with you
You forgot Hugh Jackman and Chris Evans
+The Family thank u :)
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Harley is not and has never been dumb. She can however be naive. In some cases (especially when dealing with the Joker). She understands how the human mind works and uses that to her advantage. She plays the ditz to throw people off. She holds her cards and waits to play them. I'd love so much if that instead of bombs, they are hooked up to some toxin that Waller can trigger, then at the end of it the switch is pulled by Waller to (deal with loose ends) and she shrugs it off, noting that she gained immunity to that stuff from an old flame (Poison Ivy), and that she just wanted the adventure.
Oooh I bet that Harley's phone is hidden in the purse that she steals.
That's actually a really good point! The weird graffiti looks to be a message from the joker. For instance the love heart on the mannequin upon which the purse sits and the writing on the other mannequins which reads Si vis pacem, para bellum (If you want peace, prepare for war)
Can't believe I never noticed that before, all I saw was Harleys butt...
Nooo, that would be too good. TOO good. This is the best suggestion I've heard for how she gets that phone tho.
I never understood why they portrayed Harley as a dumb blonde in the cartoons and comics anyway. She IS a psychologist
Harley sleeping to get ahead in her classes has been in canon since day one. I still think she is very smart, but she never had good intentions with becoming a psychologist in the first place.
she was super smart in the animated series.
Magalinnda Clavien She was smart. I think she's always been smart to some degree, I'm not sure what Grace is on about when she implies that Harley has always been stupid and is only showing her brain in this movie.
But isn't fucking your professors for better grades a smart thing to do? It's genius.
She acts dumb on purpose like all innocent
Grace is amazing at observation. I don't know anything about dissecting footage and such but when I first saw this clip I immediately noticed and very much so liked Harley's facial expressions without her Sauk g a word. I thought no one would really mention that and then BAM, one of the first things Grace mentions.
Saying*
Yes, she is amazing at noticing little details, grace always knows how to get you hyped for a movie
Come on Grace, "They've never had a really smart female Batman villain." One of the best things about Batman's rogue gallery is that most of them are super smart people. Scientists, academics, doctors. This for females too, Dr. Pamela Isley an Dr. Harleen Quinzel, Catwoman would be the exception but she is extremely smart and same goes for Thalia.
I'm excited for this too, but you're overselling it a bit. Harley has always been super smart. She plays dumb that's a different thing.
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I think she meant in the movies.
I think she meant in the movies.
Yeah, what about poison Ivy?
They never had a smart female batman villain? ivy catwoman talia lady shiva etc theres plenty.
Red Claw
I THINK she meant live action
I thought Harley was a doctor before she went insane and joined the joker? Also, I could add the huntress even though she plays both sides.
I agree that she meant live action, but also Catwoman plays both sides depending on the incarnation.
Harley Quinn is smart, she just acts stupid. I mean, that's just one origin story though.
I loved the trailer. I also like how you pointed out her deceptiveness, something I didnt initially notice myself. WOW I'm so excited for this movie!
I'm most excited for Joker and Amanda Waller, but I think Harley will be great too!
I thought in Assault on Arkham Harley was a bit too dumb, so I like that she is more intelligent here.
I would disagree, she is clearly making sure that she never hit anything with the bomb mallet. when she attacks batman she makes hysterical noises but makes it easy for him to throw her away and counter it all wihout it touching him, as well as very carefully placing it up against the wall before the electro shock scene. when the joker threatens deadshots life she tries to reason that there is no point. as well as tricking the batman himself when she gets arrested into gotham by using the excuse of finding the doll to get caught, she also tells him she doesn't know where it is and finds ways around the lie detector.
In Assault on Arkham, she was the first to figure out who Batman was disguised as.
I think Harley is both a ditz and an evil genius. She is crazy after all and can certainly have multiple aspects to her personality. I do like this portrayal of Harley. I'm really looking forward to this movie.
8:15 Not exactly everything. Don't forget, their relationship is still abusive. Joker does backhand Harley in the leaked footage from about a year ago and there will probably be more of that.
I think you're over selling how smart Harley Quinn is. She was a psychiatrist but lets not forget she basically ended up a plaything for Joker. If anything I bet you he betrays her somehow in this movie, even if you read the comics Harley isn't really the type of person to always be plotting, she's suppose to be crazy, fun and damaged and I think that's what really makes her character. That one scene where she's holding the pistol and looking worried 7:00 "that's a very smart individual" ya idk about that, that's the same look anyone peeking around a corner makes.
Grace, you were right. Harley is going to be bigger than Elsa, I believe it with all my heart
I never thought Harley was dumb just very blinded by love. Even back in the Animated series I remember moments she let the ditz facade slip here and there.
Ever notice that she is smiling after they shock her in the cell scene. She is beaming when she hits the floor.
Margot Robbie said that she's done most of her stunts in the movie
Margo Robbie actually did her own stunt in the elevator, WITH HEELS, AND NO STRINGS ATTACHED TO HER!! OMG
so... she can do flips in high heels, but a woman running in heels in front of a dinosaur is a no no??? ...
Skyebright1 thanks for the info, didn't know about her background, and I will check mission imposible ASAP, cheers!
Omg Harley Quinn blinked. Wow she's so smart.
Wtf Harley Quinn just nodded her head. She's a genius.
Basically what I got from this
Harley being smart isn't really a new interpretation. There has been interpretations where a big reason why she fell for the Joker was because she had been an overachiever all her life and she's always trying to meet other people's expectations but when she's with the Joker, she can be completely free and not care about consequences.
Actually sometimes the director tells them if they can do the action scene do it but if you can't the will bring a stunt double and if you watch the behind the scenes Margot Robbie did that elevator scene by herself
That moment of them laughing together rose my excitement for this movie by 10 and trust me I was VERY excited for this movie! Absolute perfection. My childhood is coming to life!
Pretty sure that Poison Ivy is a brilliant chemist
But she's not a genius manipulator is what she means. Sure she uses her sex appeal, but this Harley can get into people's heads and fool them by acting ditsy and dumb, when in reality she's a total badass.
Love the way you dissect the clips! Keep rockin'
I don't know if you read the Suicide squad comics, but in "The Hunt for Harley Quinn", she was heavily underestimated by a prison employee who deactivated her bomb "because she's just a girl, what is she going to do?".
Harley Quinn then caused a prison riot and escaped.
When the squad caught up to her, Deadshot and more so Savant expected to take Harley down in a matter of seconds.
Even though Savant has been warned by Deadshot stating "she is dangerous", he started fighting her recklessly.
Thus, she used her superior acrobatics to lure him onto a pressure landmine and won.
Deadshot was knocked out by Harley's hammer, which he took directly to his helmet.
She proceeded to put Joker's face on Deadshot and let her guard down, which he used to sucker punch her with a bullet to the guts.
Luckily, she has a healing factor and survived.
It showed Joker is Harley's strength and weakness as his "death" caused her to snap and defeat people rated as much stronger than her, while also being the reason she lost in the end when his sight made her feel safe.
She defeated Killer Croc in the original comics, where he is a much more monstrous version than the movie one.
Also, she was injured and Croc had the initial suprise attack on his side.
It really shows Harley Quinn is lethal if underestimated and/or if she has a goal/is paired with Joker.
Like you said, they seem to be a team rather than a mastermind and an escape goat.
I can't wait to see how she's gonna mess with the squad.
4:07
- Interestingly, the Guardian did an article a little while back about how stunt work is actually a bit more dangerous for women than men because they often have to do the stunts in heels or skimpier outfits and stuff, meaning it can be harder for them to keep their balance, and they can't hide as much protective padding under their clothing as men often can. They've started using the same tricks as ice skaters, like skin coloured pads, to better protect themselves.
I know Harley is supposed to be a villain but I'd love to see a movie where Batman and Harley team up for some reason
I love this channel sooo much
Margot Robbie's portrayal of Harley Quinn reminds me so much of the antagonist Mona Vanderwaal from Pretty Little Liars Mona pretends to just be the "It girl" of her high school and plays dumb but she is actually an evil genius who is stalking the friends of the girl who she convinced to leave town because she knew that the girl she drove away would figure that it was Mona who was talking her friends.
Yeah, I'm sold. This Harley Quinn is just as happily disconnected as the animated/ Rocksteady versions. Margot Robbie seems perfect.
Alot of the cool scenes that the characters are doing.They actually did most if not all their own stunts.They practiced alot.Somewhere it actually shows the director talking about how he wanted them to do most of the moves cause it make the movie better.
If you look it up- She did all her stunts. This was the one they said blew their minds. Also never talk out of your ass about Batman villains. There are plenty formidable female villains and Harley has always been devious.
I hyperventilated when I saw the notification and my mom came and asked if I was okay I said no haha love you
*minor spoilers* (I've only ever seen batman movies and not actually read the comics so I only know what they're like in this movie)
What I really like about harley and joker's relationship is that even though it's probably not healthy at all (mostly for harley I'd say) it brings out some pretty unexpected (to me at least) sides of their characters. Like the joker never seemed to me like the kind of guy who would care enough about another person to want to keep them close to him and actually put himself in danger to try to protect them. I don't know if you could say he actually loves her bc he's still pretty crazy but it does kinda make him feel a little more human.
I think Harley started out as more of his sidekick/groupie (flashbacks) but later on and by the time of the movie she evolved as an evil genius. Which is awesome because it gives her character growth.
In one of the Suicide Squad comics people don't think Harley can do much because she doesn't have powers but she was a Doctor, people just underestimate her.She ended up making a whole prison breakout only for the people in charge to get distracted and for her to escape you never know what goes on in her mind.
Batman has had smart female villains, If they weren't they wouldn't be able to do the things they do when it comes to the crimes they commit.
Totally love your work! Keep it up!
Hi Grace! do you think there will be cameos of other DC characters in the movie? similar to how the mcu throws a crappie ton of people in end credit scenes? lol
I really liked this because I think people forget that before she fell in love with Mr.j that she was an acrobat and a very smart psychiatrist
i love your videos! - and totally agree with the Michelle comparison, super excited to see Margot as Harley!
Loved watching this break down, it's so great to see your enthusiasm - mine matches !! I'm so hyped for this movie! I really hope they carry this super smart Harley onto the comics,though that's almost how I've always seen her - she is a psychologist after all - reminds me of a theory post I saw somewhere that describes an idea that Harley went all this way to change herself and be close to the joker to actually stop him going too big e.g. he gets an idea to poison the entirety of Gotham with a flash bomb but she convinces him instead to poison the water supply which, unbeknownst to joker, gives Batman time to stop their plans. I love the idea of Harley being a super mad genius but with a kind of control on it all.
LOL it sounded like Grace was internally panicking from 8:11-8:16 loved it
what do you mean we haven't had a smart batman villains? Umm Hello Poison Ivy. lol
I love Margot Robbie for going out and getting every Harley Quinn book she could find when she got the role, reading them all, and figuring out a way to make the character's motivation her own. Her interviews have been great. Fingers crossed for her (and this movie)!!!!
Reports from people that visited the set said that the cast did a majority of their stunts, and the elevator scene was one of them. So kudos to Margot Robbie, I'm in love and cant wait !
I remember Batman saying something like "Harley was never very smart", in the arkham videogames. I don't think she's a brilliant person. She is astute, it's different
I suppose she could be considered "astute" in terms of her ability to read and manipulate people. But she's also very resourceful and quick-thinking. And she demonstrates the ability to put together and execute a brilliant plan in "Mad Love."
If the Arkham games portrayed her as "never very smart," then they did a disservice to her character. She's ditzy, not dumb. Those aren't the same thing.
I just love DC character casting,especially female badasses . Perfect casting. I love MARVEL too but their acting is totally fake compared to this.
I disagree with your comment on the performances in the MCU but I absolutely agree that DC are doing a great job with their casting.
Marvel has some really great actors that embody their characters too. I mean Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr are basically what hold up the entire cinematic universe.
+Beatness Chris Evans is one of the worst actors I've seen in a lead role.
Yes like wonder woman Mera Harley
Michelle Pfeiffer's performance as Catwoman is one of the best comic book performances of all time. I'm hopeful Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn is up to the task of being just as great.
I'm genuinely impressed by Margot Robbie. I think she is a good actress, as well as beautiful.
Yes! I was so excited for this review! I saw it this morning and thought of what you would think right away lol
I love the way you do your editing
awesome comparisons Grace. Changes to Harley are very subtle but at the core I still see my Harley Quinn from the Animated series and the Arkham Video games so nothing is wrong with adding to new things to these amazing Grace.
Is the entity from enchantress? Could that explain why she isn't in the bulk of the group shots?
Margo Robbie did almost all of her own stunts
"they've never had a really smart batman villain" ?? The joker played by heath ledger was crazy smart!!
Catwoman levels. I don't know Grace....
Denial.
'Batman Returns' is not only my favorite Batman movie, favorite superhero movie even, but actually rests right outside my top ten all-time list. And Michelle Pfeffier is a pretty big reason for that. And you making that comparison (I too hadn't noticed from the trailers) really sparked my expectations for what 'Suicide Squad' could be.
grace i have a theory
i saw a video in which they organized all the footage from clips and trailers and i believe i found what really is the relationship with joker and harley.
SPOILERS IN WHICH CASE IM RIGHT
so first the joker and harley have sessions whatever but when joker escapes arkaham he realizes an opportunity to lure batman in various situations. First when their car chase turns south and they crash joker escapes and leaves harley behind so he doesnot really care.
and afterwise when she is in midway city joker only lures her to get either info or an artifact from her and then drops her off the elevator but deadshot saves her and then they go to the bar.
does it make any sense?
Margot Robbie actually did all of her own stunts for SS. Gives me greater respect for her as an actress for pushing herself.
Margot Robbie was an awesome Harley Quinn as Michael Keaton was an awesome Batman.
if you read the new suicide squad comics you can see she is freaking smart and that she helps the joker some times
Grace you're going to love this remember the scene in Batman Returns where Catwoman comes cartwheeling up to the window the the shrek department store and presses her face and hands up against the logo on the glass? In the Assault on Arkham cartoon Harley Quinn does almost the exact same thing with the toy store window it even has a very similar logo. Has anyone else noticed this?
well harley was never dumb just blinded by (mad) love. in the batman animated series by bruce timm there is one episode where she almost kill batman on her own, only be stopped by the joker because he doesn't want his favorit toy (batman) be killed by someone who wasn't him
I read that Margot Robbie did the run up the wall herself without the stunt double
yall think its all an act sometimes but you cant forget,she actually is psycho and not playing
Its like you haven't known Harley Quinn for awhile, she's always been really smart and covers it up
But we can admit, Grace has a total lady bone for Harley, you're flattering her more than I would
When she's in private, she is still easily distracted and focused on her looks. So I wasn't sold on the evil genius. I think that when women use their sex appeal to get power from men (not have power to themselves, but get it second hand through someone else) that it's a dependent thing to do, I think it's easy, you don't have to be a genius to know how to do it. So I'm still not sold. Though she may be a fun character, I don't think she's going to be different in that she isn't a fangirl or ditzy. Maybe more evil than usual ... but not sold on the genius. But not just with her, the joker also. I thought they look like they're advertised as fun sexy villains.
I do like how the Joker/Harley Quinn relationship is looking a lot more than the darker depictions.
This is just a thought/idea.... It seems like she doesn't get the jacket and chocker until later in the film. Does she possibly meet up with the Joker and that's when she receives these items?
Wasn't there an episode in BTAS where Harley manipulates Batman? I don't think it's completely new
Harley manipulates Batman in "Harlequinade" and "Mad Love." Although, Batman also manipulates her back in both cases.
Blown away already!!!❤️❤️❤️🔫🔫Harley is her own woman and you can see that in this trailer for sure!!!and you can tell she loves being in a relationship when she is like "awwwwwwww"at the text message❤️❤️❤️love you grace❤️❤️
Margot Robbie look amazing and beautiful as Harley Quinn and she's gonna do a great job on her performance.
The real question here is where did she get the phone from?.hahahaha this movie will be awesome.btw Grace,according to set reports she did most of her stunts by herself after a couple of months of training.
her jacket has pockets haha
then after that they said she did all of them but idk
she probably got it from the bag she stole at the end of the trailer, and was acting dumb so no one suspects anythign lol
+kevin murillo no cause if u pause it it has a diamond pattern on the lower half of the case which means it's her phone cause she got diamond pattern on everything lol
That could be true next to that bag was a shirt that had a heart with an arrow going through it could have been a sign.
This trailer gave me chills Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn
Hey Grace:D I was reading the set visit reports and everyone who i have read or heard on podcast said they were blown away because Margot Robbie did not use a stunt double for the elevator sequence and it was in fact 100% her doing the drop kick stunt :) just though i'd let you know :) keep up the good work😆🔷♦️🔷♦️🔷♦️
Hi Grace do you think if Margot Robbie if plays the role well as Harly Quinn in Suicide Squad , do you think she will surpass Michelle Phifer as Cat woman in Batman Returns ?
I think you're giving this more hype than it should have honestly. Harley Quinn here is basically Anne Hathaways catwoman acting like a 13 year old on a play date.
In the freeze frame of Harley giggling her butt dead shot is totally looking at everyone being like how stupid are these people? Can't they see how smart she is?
I'm dying, I've waited so long to see this I'm just as psyched about Harley and the team as u and just found out my only cinema isn't screening it... God 123 movies had better get it (btw I agree 100% with u she's suddenly so scheming it's awesome, also ur so pretty!)
Is the solo trailers for all of them? And where can I find them
*their
there is one for deadshot , and we are waiting for more
+AimeeStonesOfficial their going to post one each day I guess till the movie comes out
Eeek! Margot Robbie actually was up for Sue Storm in Fan4stic!
What a bullet she dodged. Thank the heavens!
If Felicity was in this movie there would be no movie because she would have already tracked the monster and have the superheroes take care of it.
Harley is a smart girl, she has always been smart and in the animated series she almost kills batman. The only problem with harley is that she loves Joker and she will make anything to follow him. In the animated series she makes a lot off stuff: she gets closer to joker in the asylum (she fooled a lot of the doctors there), she gets into the asylum and releases joker ALONE (I repeat, she breaks into arkham and takes joker ALONE) and she ALMOST KILLS BATMAN. She is a very childish character, but is portrayed in this way as a symptom of her abusive relationship with joker (and also to balance other characters like joker, batman, poison etc). Also, If we remember the gotham city sirens comics she breaks into arkham ALONE AGAIN and manipulated psychologically the guards (something that we see here). Also, and no less important.... she stayed with the joker all this years... and she is ALIVE PEOPLE. How much would any of us will last with joker? It means that she survived all the games, death threats and twisted situations that joker put her into. Her intelligence and knowledge in psychiatry made this possible. (Sorry about my english xD). I like your analysis ! XO
We'll most likely get a Trailer for each character before the Release of the Movie. Will you be reviewing all Trailers?
As we have discussed the origins of why Harley Quinn was created do you think how Joker has evolved in each version from Cesar Romero till Jared Leto's take why can't Harley evolve with each version?
Since the comics have said the Joker is multiple ppl, has Harley been sleeping with every single one of them? How does that work?
Grace didn't we see pictures of Joker slapping Harley and a torture scene in the first trailer? Love your channel!
I'm quite sure those are flashbacks.
So it is still an abusive relationship
A5M Well, I'm not sure if The Joker will stop his abusive nature but it seems like he may really care for her now.
OH MY FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SEES HARLEY LIKE I DO
Grace you just talking about this movie gets me even more thrilled to see this movie. I totally see you're very eager to watch this film.
totally agree with you! but I do miss her unique voice! what's your opinion on that?
it clicked for me a while back that a live action Harley Quinn would take a page from Pfeiffer's Catwoman. so this is all good stuff
I agree that they're making her more intelligent, but let's not forget that she played Batman in the Animated Series and captured him by pretending she needed help. She beat Batman by herself, and it would be really interesting to see an intellectual equal to Batman in Harley Quinn. Although there are villains like Talia, Shiva and Poison Ivy who are intelligent in their own ways, none are crazy intelligent, something that only Harley Quinn could provide. Super excited!!
The thing about Harley acting all ditsy is actually addressed in her origin comic in the new 52.