The enduring influence of THE KINKS ARE THE VILLAGE GREEN PRESERVATION SOCIETY | Sir Ray Davies
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- A clip from the "Echoes of a World" documentary, featuring Ray Davies, Graham Coxon (Blur), Suggs (Madness), Noel Gallagher (Oasis), Steve Cradock (Ocean Colour Scene), Andy Partridge (XTC), Paul Weller (The Jam), Greg Kurstin, Natalie Merchant and Jon Savage.
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Ray Davies - Lola [Live] | AVO Session 2010: th-cam.com/video/ADHIskw56TU/w-d-xo.html
"Do you remember Walter" is my favourite song of all time. I'm a 46-year-old woman and it still makes me cry.
It almost made Dave cry just talking about it.
Walter you were just echo of a world I knew long ago
People often change, but memories of people can remain.
Whether you're conscious or not Ray and Kinks envelopes all that you loved in Jam, XTC, Oasis, Blur, Madness. Ray is a treasure to be adored.
I agree with Andy Partridge when he committed sacrilege by saying that some of their songs, YIKES, are better than the Beatles.
It's an Andy and Swindon thing - both myself and Mr Partridge! And he's right
ray is/was an old soul. i feel he wrote for the people who were touched by a sense of tradition, custom and remembrance. it may have taken some 50 years for listeners to appreciate just how precious village green has become but it was always there and thankfully it's being discovered while ray's with us still.
"The thing about those bands is they're not ashamed of sounding British, singing in their own accents & writing about subject matter where they grew up"
Finally Andy partridge gives the highest honor to the best songwriter of all time Ray Davies!
I'm gonna play this album around my granddaughters. One of them seems super into music already.
Andy Partridge is one of the great underrated songwriters
Absolutely.
I've lived in New Zealand for most of my life, but Waterloo Sunset can still make me long for my home town.
As much as I love Village Green, I think Arthur is the The Kinks' masterpiece.
it comes second to Lola
Arthur is the Kinks masterpiece.
Love that thread that Andy points out... the line that runs from the Kinks, through bands like XTC and continues through Blur. Quintessentially English music.
Waterloo Sunset won me so many pool games - I put that on the jukebox and my game was on
Don't fret XTC guy! I love Dear God too! truly great song as well 9:51
In Mexico this album was released better than in England and the US. The first song on side A brings Days and the first song on side B is She's got everything. With this album The Kinks displaced The Rolling Stones as my favorite group.
its great to see so many bands i love mentioned in this. helps me understand why i like what the music i do.
Ray Davis has got to be one of the greatest pop music songwriters of the 60s.
*all time
@@robdean704 of all times
On listening to the late 60s golden period, I'd add Pulp to the long list of bands heavily influenced by The Kinks.
Timeless, Perfect, English, Forever, Perfect, alive
As a huge non-brit Kinks fan, I feel like I can never truly appreciate their very British music, but I still love it
I think that there are some Brits that dont get it:-(
There's an unabashed sentimentality about the Kinks that's so earnest and honest, it manages never to descend into kitsch. It just is.
Beautifully made, filmed, edited, and produced- as befitting the album could deserve. Personally, I loved the inclusion of the song-inspired artworks by the very musicians.
There is Nota bad kinks record, even the early flops are awesome
Oasis took a lot of influence from the kinks.
The importance of being idle / the kinks , Dead end street.
That's one song mate. More of a rip off. Blur were influenced by the kinks but didn't judt copy a riff.
It’s for people who really like music.
I’ve always loved Rays social commentary and vignettes better than (gasp!) McCartney ❤
Ray Davies is the best English song writer of all time for me, his songs are purely English in sound.
Yes, most of McCartney's vignettes feel cartoonish by comparison, his social commentery more sterile.
Also ,Ray puts a slight, underlying, sinister slant
@@calvinguile1315 excellent observation, reminds me that my favourite line (both lyrically and delivery) from him is "Tellin' tales of drunkenness and cruelty"
I grew up in a working class neighbourhood of second gen Mic’s and Mac’s in Canada and so the Kinks were on the top of our playlist indeed and for some reason we all knew about the Village green society despite the American ban on the band. I had it and still love it and yeah, bands like the Jam and XTC also became a big influence on me, I saw the Kinks low budget tour in Detroit and also saw the Jam in their early days in Toronto so thanks Ray for spawning another generation of great music which I still see in music today!
Sitting by the riverside is just magic
Isn't it?
This may sound ridiculous to some but listen to "Pleasant Valley Sunday" by the Monkee's , it's so Kinks in observation and downbeat style, I hate to say it but it's also a great song.
Don’t hate to say it. Carol King and Jerry Goffin wrote it, and it is a masterpiece. Check out her demo of it on TH-cam.
I just heard this album for the first time yesterday and caught this before bed by chance. thanks for uploading!
Something else is an amazing album in the same time peroid
@@jasonmcgary Listened to it in full yesterday. Thanks for the rec
Something else is my personal favorite
They are up there with the clash, the jam the Beatles
The jam don't deserve to be there😅
Better then all of them.
@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek Paul Weller is superior to Ray I love Ray by the way....Paul Weller wrote songs at 19-20 that Ray never could
I fuckin love this album! Actually this and Arthur I kind of consider a double album⚡
Noel Gallagher accusing someone else from stealing... now I have seen everything
He gets alot shit for that. But there are hardly many genuinely original artists/songwriters out there? Surely if it was as easy as stealing a few riffs/lyrics we could all do it?
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@@michaelmulhall5007 Well, I never said that was a bad thing per sé nor that anyone can do it and be succesful (I'm looking at you, Carlos Mencía) I was just stating a simple fact: a thief is calling somebody else a thief, wich is kind of hypocritical if you ask me. Speaking of that, I actually like oasis, haha
@@sebastianfitzptraick7395 thank you, yes, everybody steals I guess, cheers mate.
He is one of the few who admits it though, wouldn’t have been at all surprising if he went on to say the same about Oasis and The Beatles
Picture Book should’ve been released as a single. Regardless, it’s a masterpiece!
Side one is a flawless run of genius, then side two reminds me of a mini-“White Album” if you will, really varied and prolific, I always loved it ❤
I still think of all these faces here as being as forever young.
the village green by the kinks and SMiLE are incredibly similar in status, musics content, thematic content, significance for the band, and just being the overall culmination of brian wilson and ray davies best musical talents
SMILE is a divine masterpiece
Love this album. For me it's one of the only albums that can drink on the same bar as Sgt. Peppers. It's marvelous. The only sad part is that here in my country, Brazil, The Kinks are little well known. Here everyone loves The Beatles. Maybe it's because of the Beatle's aura that it's equal to a religion.
I live in São Paulo , am american, but have been sharing this album with my Brasileiro friends recently
Sadly true, no one knows Ray Davies here in Brazil.
Much better than sergeant Pepper. Half of that album is lacking
The Kinks gave us enduring music because of the classic nature of it.
Suggs mention of Lily Allen and a comparison to The Kinks did make me cringe. I don't see that at all.
did you catch what davies found admirable about the artists in the kinks’ lineage? at 7.32 - the unabashed Britishness; singing in their own accents; writing about things that happened where they grew up - that’s def there on her debut record
@@tomjones5301 Yeah, I get that, but what a naff fucking comparison. I think she is fucking horrendous. I don't know Squeeze, Billy Bragg, John Lydon.......
Many thanks for this, its really great to see the Davies brothers Ray and Dave singing happily together.
Definitely an underappreciated band, not only in terms of quality but also influence. I think they were much better known and embraced by other musicians than by the public.
The Village Green Preservation Society is a record that you would have if you were stranded on an island all great songs can't pick a favorite it's too great Picture Book Wicked Annabella Monica Animal FARM and more definitely one of the best albums ever made
Paul Weller definitely looks like an old lesbian....
The complete and sublime work of Ray Davies is "The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society + Preservation Act 1 + Preservation Act 2". It is the jewel in the crown of Ray Davies' most ambitious work of his entire musical career.
I’ll add face to face, something else, Arthur, Muswell and Lola.
Just as good as a rock album could ever be.
An eclectic masterpiece. There's not a song on this album I don't love. SOMETHING ELSE thru PRESERVATION ACT was an incredible run of perfect or near perfect albums. And some of their last albums that I didn't like so much? Going back and listening to them again, they're much better than I recall thinking they were when they came out...
Ray Davies is the British version of Bob Dylan
What a great video! Thank you for posting it’
Do you remember Walter.. goat song
I love this record. Glad I found it since it was released 27 years before I was born haha
this album is like therapy for me.
"God bless Donald Duck..."
*save*
Noel Gallagher doesn't go into much depth here about this album unlike the rest of the musicians interviewed here!
It's because he's not a man of much depth
@@sratus Best songwriter in the last 25 yrs.
Saying that it's just as important as Sgt Peppers says it all. No need to elaborate.
@@theselector4733 The man who wrote Live Forever has some pretty deep depth!
@@willevans3422 Deeper than the Deep blue sea & wider than Niagara Gorge.
His songwriting not only DELVES THE DEEPEST DEPTHS OF DESPAIR but also DECIPHERS DUALITY DISCERNINGLY.......
God save the Kinks! ❤️
Oh Ray, and the Kinks............the very best ever. Wont add more.
God Bless Ray Davies!
The Kinks were in their own mold.
Great video. Really happy I found it!
i bought it and the reissue, just wonderful!
This is so English just like the Kinks. “People would buy a caravan as a status symbol and leave it in their garden all year except for one week a year when they’d go on holiday”. American translation: people would buy an RV, leave in their back yard all year except for one week a year when they’d go on Vacation. Love the Kinks
Seems like Ray Davies' Wikipedia article was written by an American if this was the extent of Davies' influence on popular music.
When I started buying kinks records it was when sleepwalker came out first I got my hands on the kink kronachles wow but by the time I bought villagegreen I had no way of knowing it did not sell well I loved it saw them twice and Ray with another guitarist another time 🎉🎉
What happened??? This entire documentary used to be on TH-cam not too long ago... damn it
Still on TH-cam, I’m watching it right now
Watched this great documentary last night. Does anyone know if the Ray and Dave acoustic performance is available in its entirety. (Where they are in a living room) They sound so good and it's a shame that we only get snippets of it. Cheers.
This might not be super helpful but I just remember from the original documentary when they were showing clips from that performance, it said ‘previously unreleased’ meaning it may not be public currently. Big shame if true because it’s such a fab bit of film. Hope that can help.
That acoustic performance is included (along with other gems) on The Kinks' 1996 album To The Bone.
Had same question
What a great video. Thanks so much for posting.
When I first listened to picture book I immediately heard Green day - warning
when i heard that Green Day song i thought thy must ve been listening to the Kinks.
When i first heard that Green Day song--- uses the riff from one of my favorite Kinks songs.
There voices just sound AMAZING together
I'm so thankful for all this great music we have. This album is amazing. I know every word when I put it on
3:56 - will from the inbetweeners In 20 years
Con los The Beatles, los The Kinks fueron la banda mas influyente y mas creativa del mundo del pop y del rock.
ANDY!!!
Sir Ray!!!
I like it a lot:)
The MOST important KINKS record, period
The Kinks had great and diverse musical periods, they all had their importance and relevance!!!!! . let's see if we found out once, the KINKS DIDN'T HAVE BAD PERIODS!!!
The Kinks are rock and roll
Ray IS “Waterloo Sunset.”
M’kay. Wrong album, but the other is my favorite song and I believe in him.
Absolutely wonderful!
Obra maestra.
Los The Kinks tuvieron muchisimas obras maestras y, en los diversos períodos diferente que musicalmente registraron. Un legado maravilloso y a vez de los mas bonito que se pueda tener de un enorme grupo de culto.
I adore this album and though I somewhat agree with Noel's sentiment of it being the equal to Sgt Pepper I think that honor should go to Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) as it's a grander more powerful statement and song for song equals anything that Paul and John wrote at the time.
I agree. Is their album with Waterloo Sunsent on it any good?
@@tom-ht3ju Any good? It's a total classic!!
@@richalderson6069 haha! thanks, dog. ill buy it off amazon now
@@tom-ht3ju Great! Enjoy.
@@richalderson6069 before you go, could you recommend a stones album to me pls, thanks
Awesome stuff, but when they talk about "him" they really are not acknowledging the influence of Dave in the band...
If you see the whole documentary they give Dave full credit - the whole thing is on TH-cam now, if you search for it.
Dave wrote like 4 songs😂 most of these people are more interested in Ray as a songwriter.
When Paul Weller is commenting about this I can’t help but think wouldn’t it be great for him to get back on stage with Bruce and Rick but I guess that is just wishful thinking
Why bother, they're in their 60s, it would never be anywhere as good and would only tarnish the legacy.
But why? By wishing for this, aren’t you really just saying- I wish I were young again?
@@hammill444 Sure would love to turn the clock back a few years who wouldn't but for me it's all about the music and the rawness of Weller and The Jam in their prime that's what I would really like back but likewise they can also never emulate that period as they are all getting on in years too , young bands inspired by The Jam like Slaves ( UK) are what I enjoy at this moment in time and until a time machine comes along I'll settle for that
this is the sort of stuff that makes me wish i was british
Marble Arch lp!
Thank you The Kinks .
Mac Demarco 100% ripped off "Picture Book" - check out his song Salad Days - think he might even have admitted it. Both songs are fantastic.
You, Mister, is absolutly right
"Warning" by Green Day took the entire riff from Picture Book
Does anyone else get the sense that Noel Gallagher realised some time ago if he wanted to be taken seriously as a senior figure of music he needed to be seen to appreciate cult bands like the Kinks, and also recognise massive influences on popular music like Bob Dylan, but I’m not sure he actually particularly likes any of them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he he only owns Oasis records and only listens to his own music. He probably kisses a poster of himself before he goes to sleep every night.
@@jimboc669 he seems very unable and uninterested in really changing. Maybe musically. But he’s not articulate and has nothing to say.
The Kinks ARE NOT a cult band. Educate yourself dummy!!!
@@cowpalacedavemuch if their work is. Most people only know the hits.
@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek That doesn't make them a cult band silly! 😂
Brilliant video. What is this documentary that it was taken from?
Echoes of a World. I saw it on PBS this year during a fundraiser
@@patrickdruhan6143 the best documentary i've ever seen
Good to see Natalie in there among all the men. So many female musicians are Kinks fans, where are they in this documentary?
If you haven’t already heard it you all need to check out Ray’s demo recordings for the musical 80 days. It’s phenomenal
Truly a Wonderful Album
English culture is dead....Long live the Kinks
bellend
@@bobsbigboy_ drill rap fan eh?
nonce
@@bellinghammond dumb tory loser
@@bobsbigboy_All british hip hop apart from Trip hop is terrible.
IM NOT A HIP HOP FAN DUMBASS@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
9:48 - 10:19 Facts, truth, Yes!!
@Chris Gavito Talk about Beatles fanatics, god they're awful... -Me who's loved the Beatles for most of my lifetime
@@Urlocallordandsavior I love the Beatles too, I love the Kinks, and I fucking love XTC, but I don't like it whenever somebody's says oh this is better than that thing, is like... what's the point? Just enjoy the music, if it were the conrary, for instance to say: The kinks never made a sgt pepper album type... so fucking what? The more extraordinary thing to do, is to CREATE something of your own, and the Kinks did that! in the middle of all the psychedelia movement, they decided to talk about the english scenery, melancholic village green, the shityness of a big city, vs the calmed beauty of the country, and it was so brilliant. So, again, is like, what's the point of comparing everything? What's the fucking point? Kind of lame on Andy's behalf really, (again I LOVE Xtc, underrated as hell) but that's just my silly opinion anyways
I love this song and the kinks but hate it when songwriters ignore the value of the band in the writing process....unless you came up with the lead and the bass and drums and all the harmonies, it is not solo written...the lead on Waterloo Sunset alone deserves writing credit, but Dave gets none...same thing with many famous songs and bands...
Paul McCartney has said recently that now, decades later, he resents not giving George Harrison composer's credit on "And I Love Her", since it was Harrison who wrote the signature acoustic guitar riff, already in studio. It's the most famous part of the song.
Arrangement and song writing are two different things.
@Victor
It's only a shame Sir Macca didn't start trotting that tale til long after George's death. He also forgets to mention John writing the middle section.
I agree with this, but it has to be said that Dave Davies' guitar part, brilliant as it is, and amazing as he is a guitarist, is actually just the melody line
Ray wrote most of the stuff and Dave Mick and Pete helped out a lot but Dave wrotre his own songs that were on Kinks records in th 60s 70s and 80s The Stones ripped off Brian Jones who wrote a few of thier early riffs that were ctedited to 2 Keith and he got any writhig credit 4 them
The Band vs the Kinks?
The Band are as American (I know most are Canadian) as The Kinks are British. Both wrote songs with uniquely American or English scenes that are both beautiful.
@@nathank6468 The Kinks with a lot of difference !!!
4:23 Damon got rekt
At least blur make original material with their influence. Noel would have a career if he couldn't copy others.
Does anyone know where can I find this documentary?
I will forward 7578229979
It is on TH-cam now, was posted a couple of weeks ago - search "Kinks Echoes of a World".
If only Ray could've controlled his temper around his brother Dave, they could've been making more money in one tour right now than all of their past tours combined.
I think they get on much better than they ever wanted people to know. Dave suffered a debilitating stroke some years ago. It's probably the major reason they never toured again.
Dave didn’t get along with Mick either. Maybe he was the problem