Edward Rogers, fire Atkins and Shapiro now before they ruin this franchise. They have 0 credibility with players,agents and among baseball GMs. Their moves will be moves of desperation and not carefully thought out just like last year and all the years before. They can’t even draft good players. Only Trey Yesavage (#94) is the only Blue Jay in the Top 100 prospects.
@ why would anyone want to come to Toronto at this point. This team was in a good place about 2-3 years ago, they had some needs for sure, but weren’t too far off. Can’t say the same for the current roster I am afraid.
Sadly last season I was planning a trip from Nova Scotia to Toronto to see the jays. They sucked so bad we changed plans and went elsewhere. I can’t spend my money to support a team that doesn’t want to succeed.
Lower ticket prices, food prices and beer prices. Baseball is baseball, I would rather stay a fan if I could afford to use a baseball game as a form of entertainment. It cost me nothing to turn off the TV, it will save me money to NOT attend games.
Yeah, this is an issue across the board with all MLB teams. I remember when a seat five rows from field level on the lowest deck down the third base line cost the equivalent of $26 in today's US dollars. I haven't gone to MLB games in years, so I don't know what that seat would cost today.
@@PhilKsDashcam Yuck. :( I attended MLB games during the collusion era, with MLB ownership keeping player salaries low. Perhaps that was part of how ticket prices were relatively lower.
I liked Teoscar’s interview after the World Series when he told the media that Charlie Montoyo was the best manager he’s ever had. So many of the OG are still in contact with him and I don’t think they really like playing with Schneider and don’t have faith that their careers can be all that it should be under his management and under Atkins. Atkins and Schneider don’t like brown people. Guess what, most of those players are not white. Beau doesn’t want to be there and Vlad might stay if there’s enough money. Neither Schneider nor Atkins knows how to forge a strong team.
Was totally with your comment until you brought skin color into it. That's a gigantic claim you've made. Has Schneider or Atkins told you this? Either in a email or was it while conversating? I'm guessing you don't know either of them, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Until then, you're a race-baiting piece of trash writing ignorant racist comments.
I promise you that if fans dwindle away, the majority won't be gone forever. They will just be in hibernation until they are given a reason to care again
Claim to be going in on free agents yet not resigning Bo and Vlad, why are any of those free agents going to want to play here? For less sponsorships and an insanely high tax rate? The horrendous front office and ownership attitude?
I'm looking at other teams to watch I have watched every blue jays game since we could except 1 season we sucked hard. This is depressing for a jays fan. Can't stand Atkins. I will follow Vladdy i think, Good luck Jays.
We are it is the death of the team we love and support so much the death of the hope we had in years prior but we should still keep our head up though tbh we need to be excited that this team is even in the conversation of getting big time playes
The BS about being close to signing Ohtani was always a load of crap. He signed a contract with deferred money which is a fact that Ohtani always wanted go play for the Dodgers no matter how much money was throw at him. Atkins has no plan, except for delusional pipe dreams. Losing out on Soto is a blessing in disguise. Overpaying for Soto and not having a bullpen and no extensions for vladdy or Bo would be disastrous. Now there's rumors Atkins is trading Bassist? Atkins and his staff have flawed player evaluations and a flawed strategy for success. They team is lacking so much more than just the roster that takes the field and all of MLB know it. Schhapiro and Atkins did a good job renovating the ballpark but they have systematically destroyed the team and it's future. Only when Roger's sees an empty skydomw will they realize their mistake.
Not giving up on team, just giving up on management. I said it was a bad idea from the start when they let AA go and hired these two. Now AA has a ring and is at least is competitive in playoffs.
It was AA's choice to leave, and according to AA the Blue Jays gave him every opportunity to keep his job and was treated with respect. The Braves had that big cheating scandal that got their former GM banned from MLB, which created an opening there. I guess we can blame the Braves' cheating scandal.
Ohtani was going to sign with the Jays!? Like hell! He leaves Disneyland. Where does he go? Chavez Ravine and a World Series ring is measured perfectly for his finger.
You are a lot more positive than I am at this point. Shapiro has said they will spend about the same as last year. How can they do that Re-sign Vladdy and possibly Bo. Add 4-5 bullpen arms, add 2 strong bats and a catcher!
I hate to say it if we really want changes fans are going to have stop buying tickets to send a message to management otherwise I don’t see anything changing I love my jays but fans are going to have to make a stand
It is crazy that they both are still employed. I really think you get two guys off the street and they might do better with the deep pockets this franchise has.
The turning point for me was not the Otani fiasco...I mean was there really anyone who actually expected him to come to Toronto??? No, for me it happened when Berrios was pulled from their last playoff game in 2023...and possibly their last playoff game for God knows how long. At that point I knew there was something seriously wrong with this franchise. What big league manager in his right mind would do that? Not one. It made me wonder who was really pulling the strings on that team. Fast forward to now. Obviously they have no intention of signing Vladdy or they would have done it by now. Without him signed Bo is definitely out the door the minute he is able. No free agent worth anything will come here when it's obvious this team doesn't care about winning....and when the current players are calling the organization a f_$*€ing s/=tshow. It's obvious the front office has no clue how to fix this....and I hope they're prepared for 12k fans in the seats at their fancy restored stadium next season.
The final nail in the coffin come on guys ultimately if he doesn’t want to sign here he doesn’t wanna sign here. You can’t make somebody do something they don’t want to.
This isn’t anything new for baseball. 75% of baseball fans feel the same exact way. Until there’s a hard salary cap, floor and improved revenue sharing the majority of teams will be playing at a massive competitive disadvantage. It really doesn’t matter how wealthy your owner is. If the teams not raking in the money they’re not going to spend big for extended periods of time. At the end of the day most of these owners, including the Rogers group only cares about making money. Not every team can have Steve Cohen as their owner.
" ya we're going after otani and absolutely no one else" they were willing to offer him 700 million, but not a single other player anywhere anything. " we had 1 move and that was it!"
That 700 million was earmarked specifically for Ohtani only was due to the large revenue streams Japanese media would've brought the other subsidiaries of Rogers Sports & Media division, which owns Sportsnet, exclusive rights to broadcast Blue Jays games, etc. No other player brings in the kind of media revenue that Ohtani does. After signing him, the Dodgers added at least ten new Japanese corporate sponsors worth $30M in annual revenue. The corporate structure and nature of Rogers' other businesses would've brought in even more added revenue to Rogers Sports & Media.
I won't commit 3 hours plus on an evening to watch a team that is poorly staffed. 2 years ago, I watched close to 130 games. Last year, well less than half of that.
Let's face it, no superstar is coming to Toronto. The Jays will try but it will just inflate over asking prices. Here's a solution, clean house from top to bottom. Develop the farm system. The Jays are in for a tough few years to rebuild.
Even though I’ve only watched the jays since early 2017 I’ve seen how this team has been torn down and just never recovered. Getting rid of guys like Jordan Romano genesis Cabrera teoscar Hernandez Lourdes gurriel and so much more. The only way I can trust this front office at this point is actually doing their job for once in their life instead of trying the same strategy over and over. it’s either tear it all down and sell the franchise or resign vladdy and see where it goes from there
Ohtani was never going to be a blue jay.. you didn't actually think he was going to be a bluejay .. did you? He lives and has lived in California since he came to the States
Bro if they don't get soto vladdy walks and no one buys in. This team is owned by rogers and has a chance to either sign the best free agent available or fuck over the Mets. They can easily offer him 750mil. Win win ypu either get soto and ypur fan base back. Or you don't get him and the Mets pay 800million for him. At least they show they tried.
I already didnt go to any games last year or watch any on tv past the first few weeks because of the trash management and player development. They need to sign vlad and bo and get a couple good free agents.
I hope Vladdy leaves for the sake of his career. This franchise is where winning goes to die. Fans need to express their disgust by not paying attention until Atkins and Shapiro are gone.
The off-season hasn’t even started yet you guys are acting like they’ve done nothing they did nothing. Yes the previous years have been a disappointment, but were they ever going to sign Ohtani probably not are they gonna sign Soto probably not but at least they’re in there trying do you want us to be the Pittsburgh Piratesor the Kansas City Royals who don’t spend shit for money
The blue Jays need to change management fast, this is getting ridiculous,I can see them loosing big time fans , unless they let a couple front office guys go
I agree these 2 clowns need to go the bull crap they are telling fans and media is completely ridiculous how they are all in big time on top free agents is the biggest lies by these 2 clowns they can't even sign there 2 franchise players bo and vladdy to long-term deals and they go out and sign players who can't even hit 200 brutal plus they let there top reliever walk as in ramano that doesn't attract top free agents to come here plus they need to add bullpen help plus 3 or 4 bats to lineup to compete in tuff al east but these 2 incompetent clowns can't get the job done rogers empire fire there asses out the door and save your franchise the jays are important to canadian baseball fans try and pry anthopolis out Atlanta and bring the canadian boy back to run the canadian team the guy is way smarter on how to run a baseball franchise say by by to the Shapiro and Atkins sherade show
@@dave8002 I am cool with new blood coming in to run the franchise don't know what rogers is waiting for these 2 clowns are going to decimate the franchise to Chicago whiitesox status both should be on the unemployment line
The Blue Jays non-tendered Romano because due to his injury status, they feel that the raise he would receive in arbitration would be greater than his on-field value.
You're forgetting one thing ... the people of Toronto will buy tickets to a losing team no matter the price of the tickets. Leafs tickets have been priced out of range for most people since they were in the Gardens. So long as Rogers breaks roughly even, I don't think they care what they put on the field. Now if we saw record low numbers like Chicago there might be a call to get new management or put a better team on the field.
Hey, you guys need to get over this. You act like you lost your dog or your best friend. I will no longer be supporting or watching your TH-cam channel
Hey, you guys need to get over this. You act like you lost your dog or your best friend. I will no longer be supporting or watching your TH-cam channel
Edward Rogers, fire Atkins and Shapiro now before they ruin this franchise. They have 0 credibility with players,agents and among baseball GMs. Their moves will be moves of desperation and not carefully thought out just like last year and all the years before. They can’t even draft good players. Only Trey Yesavage (#94) is the only Blue Jay in the Top 100 prospects.
Its almost like management and ownership don't care as long as they are raking in the cash..... which is sad and frustrating.
Why would Soto want to come to a franchise that has ZERO urgency to sign it's franchise future. Just TERRIBLE upper management
@ why would anyone want to come to Toronto at this point. This team was in a good place about 2-3 years ago, they had some needs for sure, but weren’t too far off. Can’t say the same for the current roster I am afraid.
Corporate ownership of teams is bad for baseball.
@@msteele2214 If Vladdy isn't resigned, the Jays will be mediocre for AT LEAST 8-10 years!!
Just like the leafs
Sadly last season I was planning a trip from Nova Scotia to Toronto to see the jays. They sucked so bad we changed plans and went elsewhere.
I can’t spend my money to support a team that doesn’t want to succeed.
Canceled are plans to see the jays last year as well
Lower ticket prices, food prices and beer prices. Baseball is baseball, I would rather stay a fan if I could afford to use a baseball game as a form of entertainment. It cost me nothing to turn off the TV, it will save me money to NOT attend games.
Yeah, this is an issue across the board with all MLB teams. I remember when a seat five rows from field level on the lowest deck down the third base line cost the equivalent of $26 in today's US dollars. I haven't gone to MLB games in years, so I don't know what that seat would cost today.
Blue Jay management are losers. Time to boycott.
@@Dulcimerist Well, I went to 2 games last year. It cost $138 to sit in the last row of the second level third base side.
@@PhilKsDashcam Yuck. :(
I attended MLB games during the collusion era, with MLB ownership keeping player salaries low. Perhaps that was part of how ticket prices were relatively lower.
They are not baseball men running this franchise. They are politicians saying many words that mean Nadda!
Mark and Ross being allowed to return with no playoff success, letting quality players that are fan faves walk and terrible drafting is beyond me.
I liked Teoscar’s interview after the World Series when he told the media that Charlie Montoyo was the best manager he’s ever had. So many of the OG are still in contact with him and I don’t think they really like playing with Schneider and don’t have faith that their careers can be all that it should be under his management and under Atkins. Atkins and Schneider don’t like brown people. Guess what, most of those players are not white. Beau doesn’t want to be there and Vlad might stay if there’s enough money. Neither Schneider nor Atkins knows how to forge a strong team.
Was totally with your comment until you brought skin color into it. That's a gigantic claim you've made. Has Schneider or Atkins told you this? Either in a email or was it while conversating?
I'm guessing you don't know either of them, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Until then, you're a race-baiting piece of trash writing ignorant racist comments.
I promise you that if fans dwindle away, the majority won't be gone forever. They will just be in hibernation until they are given a reason to care again
How many times does Atkins have to prove to the fans he is useless
They should have never let Alex Anthopoulos go.
You know what i hate? When we go big on a superstar who sucks as soon as they cross the border.
Cause they buy them when they’re old.
Claim to be going in on free agents yet not resigning Bo and Vlad, why are any of those free agents going to want to play here? For less sponsorships and an insanely high tax rate? The horrendous front office and ownership attitude?
Fire Atkins and Shipiro. I won’t be going to another game if they’re not fired!
I'm looking at other teams to watch I have watched every blue jays game since we could except 1 season we sucked hard. This is depressing for a jays fan. Can't stand Atkins. I will follow Vladdy i think, Good luck Jays.
Sounds like I'm at a funeral😢😢😢
We are it is the death of the team we love and support so much the death of the hope we had in years prior but we should still keep our head up though tbh we need to be excited that this team is even in the conversation of getting big time playes
RIP Blue Jays next season we hardly knew thee.
The BS about being close to signing Ohtani was always a load of crap. He signed a contract with deferred money which is a fact that Ohtani always wanted go play for the Dodgers no matter how much money was throw at him. Atkins has no plan, except for delusional pipe dreams. Losing out on Soto is a blessing in disguise. Overpaying for Soto and not having a bullpen and no extensions for vladdy or Bo would be disastrous. Now there's rumors Atkins is trading Bassist? Atkins and his staff have flawed player evaluations and a flawed strategy for success. They team is lacking so much more than just the roster that takes the field and all of MLB know it. Schhapiro and Atkins did a good job renovating the ballpark but they have systematically destroyed the team and it's future. Only when Roger's sees an empty skydomw will they realize their mistake.
Not giving up on team, just giving up on management. I said it was a bad idea from the start when they let AA go and hired these two. Now AA has a ring and is at least is competitive in playoffs.
It was AA's choice to leave, and according to AA the Blue Jays gave him every opportunity to keep his job and was treated with respect.
The Braves had that big cheating scandal that got their former GM banned from MLB, which created an opening there. I guess we can blame the Braves' cheating scandal.
I've already give up on this bullshit of a team! It's all the front office's fault!!!
Lol
Ohtani was going to sign with the Jays!? Like hell! He leaves Disneyland. Where does he go? Chavez Ravine and a World Series ring is measured perfectly for his finger.
You are a lot more positive than I am at this point. Shapiro has said they will spend about the same as last year. How can they do that Re-sign Vladdy and possibly Bo. Add 4-5 bullpen arms, add 2 strong bats and a catcher!
I will probably keep watching them no matter how badly they do next season. But this is starting to remind me of when Delgado and Green left.
I hate to say it if we really want changes fans are going to have stop buying tickets to send a message to management otherwise I don’t see anything changing I love my jays but fans are going to have to make a stand
It's an easy decision, boycott the games. The team is run by idiots.
It is crazy that they both are still employed. I really think you get two guys off the street and they might do better with the deep pockets this franchise has.
If they dont sign vladdy i will le a ve as a fan get rid of atkins and shapiro they dont have any baseball sense
The turning point for me was not the Otani fiasco...I mean was there really anyone who actually expected him to come to Toronto??? No, for me it happened when Berrios was pulled from their last playoff game in 2023...and possibly their last playoff game for God knows how long. At that point I knew there was something seriously wrong with this franchise. What big league manager in his right mind would do that? Not one. It made me wonder who was really pulling the strings on that team. Fast forward to now. Obviously they have no intention of signing Vladdy or they would have done it by now. Without him signed Bo is definitely out the door the minute he is able. No free agent worth anything will come here when it's obvious this team doesn't care about winning....and when the current players are calling the organization a f_$*€ing s/=tshow. It's obvious the front office has no clue how to fix this....and I hope they're prepared for 12k fans in the seats at their fancy restored stadium next season.
The final nail in the coffin come on guys ultimately if he doesn’t want to sign here he doesn’t wanna sign here. You can’t make somebody do something they don’t want to.
Yeah but no one wanting to sign here is kind of the problem.
I'm done until this front office is fired.
If Vladdy leaves I'm going to whatever team he's going to as long as it's not a Blue Jays Rival.
We all know it's going to end up being NYY. The question is sooner or later? As Vladdy hits his prime or at the tail end?
I’ve moved on from the Jays. Thanks Rogers and good luck signing Vlady long term.
I don’t want any rumours except if it’s about vladdy getting a massive contract
This isn’t anything new for baseball. 75% of baseball fans feel the same exact way. Until there’s a hard salary cap, floor and improved revenue sharing the majority of teams will be playing at a massive competitive disadvantage. It really doesn’t matter how wealthy your owner is. If the teams not raking in the money they’re not going to spend big for extended periods of time. At the end of the day most of these owners, including the Rogers group only cares about making money. Not every team can have Steve Cohen as their owner.
This is the Harold Ballard era of the Jays
" ya we're going after otani and absolutely no one else" they were willing to offer him 700 million, but not a single other player anywhere anything. " we had 1 move and that was it!"
That 700 million was earmarked specifically for Ohtani only was due to the large revenue streams Japanese media would've brought the other subsidiaries of Rogers Sports & Media division, which owns Sportsnet, exclusive rights to broadcast Blue Jays games, etc. No other player brings in the kind of media revenue that Ohtani does. After signing him, the Dodgers added at least ten new Japanese corporate sponsors worth $30M in annual revenue. The corporate structure and nature of Rogers' other businesses would've brought in even more added revenue to Rogers Sports & Media.
I won't commit 3 hours plus on an evening to watch a team that is poorly staffed. 2 years ago, I watched close to 130 games. Last year, well less than half of that.
FIRE SHATKINS, IN JAMES CLICK WE TRUST......now. WE ARE NOT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Let's face it, no superstar is coming to Toronto. The Jays will try but it will just inflate over asking prices. Here's a solution, clean house from top to bottom. Develop the farm system. The Jays are in for a tough few years to rebuild.
Lmao so much drama.
Virtually no one has been signed yet in mlb. Clam down
Even though I’ve only watched the jays since early 2017 I’ve seen how this team has been torn down and just never recovered. Getting rid of guys like Jordan Romano genesis Cabrera teoscar Hernandez Lourdes gurriel and so much more. The only way I can trust this front office at this point is actually doing their job for once in their life instead of trying the same strategy over and over. it’s either tear it all down and sell the franchise or resign vladdy and see where it goes from there
The bullsh*t they pulled on Romano was just gross...that may have done it for me...what a coward-a$$ move.
Jays sign Verdugo to 3 year deal worth $50 million.
Ohtani was never going to be a blue jay.. you didn't actually think he was going to be a bluejay .. did you? He lives and has lived in California since he came to the States
Management and Rogers don't care about winning. They are cheap. They will never pay big bucks for star players. They suck!
Bro if they don't get soto vladdy walks and no one buys in. This team is owned by rogers and has a chance to either sign the best free agent available or fuck over the Mets. They can easily offer him 750mil. Win win ypu either get soto and ypur fan base back. Or you don't get him and the Mets pay 800million for him. At least they show they tried.
I already didnt go to any games last year or watch any on tv past the first few weeks because of the trash management and player development. They need to sign vlad and bo and get a couple good free agents.
There is nothing to explain. We all know that Atkins ruined this team. Until he’s gone there is nothing to talk about.
Shapiro is in control! THEY BOTH HAVE TO GO
keep same team. no need to add anything.
I hope Vladdy leaves for the sake of his career. This franchise is where winning goes to die. Fans need to express their disgust by not paying attention until Atkins and Shapiro are gone.
The off-season hasn’t even started yet you guys are acting like they’ve done nothing they did nothing. Yes the previous years have been a disappointment, but were they ever going to sign Ohtani probably not are they gonna sign Soto probably not but at least they’re in there trying do you want us to be the Pittsburgh Piratesor the Kansas City Royals who don’t spend shit for money
Don't believe them. Keep Vladdy. They are treating him badly.
The blue Jays need to change management fast, this is getting ridiculous,I can see them loosing big time fans , unless they let a couple front office guys go
I agree these 2 clowns need to go the bull crap they are telling fans and media is completely ridiculous how they are all in big time on top free agents is the biggest lies by these 2 clowns they can't even sign there 2 franchise players bo and vladdy to long-term deals and they go out and sign players who can't even hit 200 brutal plus they let there top reliever walk as in ramano that doesn't attract top free agents to come here plus they need to add bullpen help plus 3 or 4 bats to lineup to compete in tuff al east but these 2 incompetent clowns can't get the job done rogers empire fire there asses out the door and save your franchise the jays are important to canadian baseball fans try and pry anthopolis out Atlanta and bring the canadian boy back to run the canadian team the guy is way smarter on how to run a baseball franchise say by by to the Shapiro and Atkins sherade show
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They should fire Shatkins and aleast promote james click. He won in a year as gm for astros.
@@dave8002 I am cool with new blood coming in to run the franchise don't know what rogers is waiting for these 2 clowns are going to decimate the franchise to Chicago whiitesox status both should be on the unemployment line
I'm done with jays
Has Romano been released????
The Blue Jays non-tendered Romano because due to his injury status, they feel that the raise he would receive in arbitration would be greater than his on-field value.
signing the 39 yr old Turner was IDIOTIC. Vladdy would have cost $600 Mil LAST SEASON... Gotta pay him at least $650 now
I can absolutely assure you no one is gonna pay vladdy 600 mil and i’m a vladdy stan
You're forgetting one thing ... the people of Toronto will buy tickets to a losing team no matter the price of the tickets. Leafs tickets have been priced out of range for most people since they were in the Gardens. So long as Rogers breaks roughly even, I don't think they care what they put on the field. Now if we saw record low numbers like Chicago there might be a call to get new management or put a better team on the field.
There’s better players than Soto. Who cares🤷🏻♂️
Hey, you guys need to get over this. You act like you lost your dog or your best friend. I will no longer be supporting or watching your TH-cam channel
no one new will be signed for next season. bunch of LOW LEVEL moves just like this year
There lies
These are Edward Rogers' guys. It's time to face facts. The market is getting killed off. Intentionally!
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Trash
with how woke blue jays fans have gotten, this is what they deserve.
Hernandez bregman Soto Guerrero bichette get get everybody
MLB the Show! :)
And Santana dare
Go win the world series at all cost
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Hey, you guys need to get over this. You act like you lost your dog or your best friend. I will no longer be supporting or watching your TH-cam channel