It still astonishes me that companies "forget" the main rule of business "Supply and Demand". If your movie does horrible that means no demand, you refer to what your customers are saying then create a supply for what they want...
Nah this 'fatigue' is some made-up narcissistic tactic to get attention off failure, scapegoating.. They even blame the fans. They blame whoever but themselves. These women characters are also inserts of the writer/directors. The story is about them, not the character or universe. It all turned to crap following the forced agendas of social programming queerdom deviancy reinforcing, it's bizarre and concerning how they are attacking the family unit.
Even if the writers were creating this crap on their own, the management still accepted it. The end results are still the management for pushing on the junk nobody wanted.
Ohhh It’s VERY possible. NO Company.. No matter how big they are, are “too big to fail/fall”. If Disney full-on implodes, I will actually celebrate 🎊 🎉.. Maybe then, all the agendas, narratives and stupid wokeness will die and the REAL DISNEY and what it’s meant to be, will return.. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes.
It's now become quite clear that Feige was NOT the actual genius behind The MCU's success. We now see what The MCU looks like with Feige in complete control. That means that it was in fact JAMES GUNN, JON FAVREAU and apparently IKE PERLMUTTER keeping costs under control that were truly responsible for the overwhelming success of Phases 1 though 3.
Rusoo brothers honestly brought all the hype. When Captain America Winter Soldier came out, that was when Marvel ballooned in popularity because of how good the movie was.
Loki season 2 is literally the only thing papering over the cracks and holding Disney/Marvel together right now. Let's hope the season finale doesn't dissapoint.
I'm hoping Loki S2 ep 6 will be great BUT most of the finales on Disney+ shows have been terrible, so I'm not keeping my hopes up, which is sad to say because Loki is my favorite character throughout the MCU.
Listen to the core audience who was there for the first few films before the world became obsessed with the MCU. Those films were targeted at the actual COMIC BOOK FANS and that's what brought the "normies" in. When you start listening to what the normies say at the expense of the core fans, it will go in the toilet and boy has it.
They're not gonna change course immediately... that would be admitting failure. They're just gonna keep on truckin', till the inevitable end of the line. They're gonna conclude that people are just tired of comic movies and move on to something else. These out of touch millionaires will never understand what it takes to make good stories. At least in the past the creators knew how to entertain, these people are just plain arrogant and cynical.
Funny thing is that the article thinks that the Black Widow movie flopped because of trolls. Truth is that the movie failed because they should have made that movie years ago when all the other core Avengers movies were being made and fans were pissed about it. Plus it confused the hell out of general audiences because it was released out of alignment with it's place on the MCU timeline.
I'm wondering if Disney is going to have to do like they did with the comics start selling characters ip to other companies, if things don't get better
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer We are now entering the 3rd phase of this particular "truth"... where everybody and there mom pretends it's been obvious all along... but simultaneously doesn't own their part in it... so nothing ever truly changes. Similar to wearing masks during covid... and the behavior that followed.
Umm yeah…didn’t the directors of that SOLO movie try to do they’re own thing, then Kennedy stepped in and got rid of them and changed it. From that point on Disney would tightly oversee the message’s implemented into they’re movies. It’s obvious the writers have they’re hands tied.
Yeah I'm about to finnish the MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios book. It's a have to read for cinephiles. It's not a puff piece for Marvel. It's pretty brutal in many chapters. I recommend.
Cpt Marvel, Miss Marvel, Kate Bishop, Iron Heart now Echo😂😂😂😂 If they invested time and money in chracters the public really like Disney wouldnt be in this situation...
I think they don’t want to change narratives. They are gonna try to figure out how to make the movie succeed with implementing more of it and by doing that, they are gonna bring back the OG actors. I understand bringing back characters but the actors are not gonna outlive their portrayed characters, I think it’s time for a recast along with an entire reboot of the MCU. But regardless it’s not gonna work.
I honestly think that only focussing on white characters is also wrong. Everybody wants to see black characters. The problem is turning marvel movies into chick flicks.
There is nothing wrong with white characters. The problem the fans have is that when they race and gender swapping of its characters just pander to the "modern audience." Movie studios can take any existing black characters such as Storm, Blade, Falcon, Icon, Static Shock, and, to name a few. The "Blade" trilogy, except for the third movie and "Black Panther" were major hits.
Man it feels great to be a DC fan. Granted some of our movies were mid, but we do not have to deal with this bullshit. Granted i know warner bros are annoying but hey
(Representing every time Kang gets killed off in every MCU project.) Kang the Conqueror: I’ve seem to have fallen! I’m still alive! I’m just in excruciating pain! The leg is definitely broken!
About the thing with the writers, I think that it is definitely a minority. The same thing has been happening in the comics. They have a particular ideology and only know how to write based on that. Plus they've been pulling writers and directors at times that have no business with certain properties. I mean you can't honestly think the She-hulk writers are ground breaking. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
It's so unbelievable that cancel culture and outside groups are destroying these films. You have to be purposely trying to destroy Marvel to make us feel this way. Think about that for a minute.
I swear the real star wars is happening in real life. Bot army=clone army. Rebels vs empire. It's crazy. Gina Corrano is our real hero, a female hero we'd all embrace. She is our Jedi!
Even if writers were told what to write or add to stories, that still doesn't justify how bad they do it most of the times. Some decisions feel like they are done out of spite.
The thing is most people who hate what Disney is doing want them to fail completely to somehow prove that anything inclusive is a death blow. Us who love Disney just want them to do better
Disney obviously is going down the path Hasbro went when they killed off Optimus Prime (Iron Man) plus majority of the original Autobots (the original Avengers)…. and gave us Rodimus Prime and the season 3 Autobots (the recent Marvel characters). Now with the talk of bringing Iron Man back due to low ratings and negative feedback, it’s the equivalent to Hasbro resurrecting Optimus Prime.
Yeah Marvel is sinking I don’t even think Deadpool/Wolverine, Spiderman, X men, Or F4 Can save them at this point Because Tom Holland’s Spiderman is Alright I didn’t really like that he wasn’t really a nerd or Mj wasn’t comic accurate and no uncle ben or harry but other than those problems with The MCU Spiderman it was good.
if marvel didnt turn around and mess up everything with the M She U, stuff like she hulk wouldnt even bother me as much because id just be like,ok that ones not for me. Deciding to make everything trash and forced with woke identity politics made it all not for me and most people. i dont even think its superhero fatigue, i honestly believe it is just fatigue of being preached at by people who dont know shit about the real world.
It’s funny how the consumer knows what they want and the direction necessary to fix it. It’s a business not a political platform. They are all just activists or being told to write it based on that woke score sheet
"Wailing on woke stuff all time is kinda lazy, too." Cartman, recent SP episode. I mean, I get the angryness, but Nerdrotic wouldnt exist without wailing on woke stuff.
Spiderman 2 has good gameplay, I'll give them that. But when it comes to the story which was generic and dialogue which as well wasn't that great, I agree on that aspect of it being a disappointment. Another Issue was the implementation of woke content. I Don't understand the copious amounts of positive reviews it is receiving. I believe people are rating it on the premise of how great the first one turned out, so obviously there is some biasedness. This sort of reminds me of the last of us 2 controversy.
@@Brandonweifu What baffles me is that you can't wrap your head around someone having an opinion. Chill out bro it's just my opinion. You don't need to attack me.
I wanna see the marvels because they say it will flop 😅 and echo looks amazing I don't think reboot is the answer I think a step back take a year or 2 write good movie then return with a bang
It still astonishes me that companies "forget" the main rule of business "Supply and Demand". If your movie does horrible that means no demand, you refer to what your customers are saying then create a supply for what they want...
My thoughts exactly!!!
Its such a simple formula
Sounds like rocket science to me lol
Instead, Disney wants to pander and virtue signal. Go woke, go BROKE.
Superhero fatigue isn't even a real thing. We aren't tired of super heroes, we are tired of poorly written movies with a super hero logo on the front.
Idk why they just didn't do Dr doom or Galactus yet instead of these side hero tv shows not even movies
Nah this 'fatigue' is some made-up narcissistic tactic to get attention off failure, scapegoating.. They even blame the fans. They blame whoever but themselves. These women characters are also inserts of the writer/directors. The story is about them, not the character or universe. It all turned to crap following the forced agendas of social programming queerdom deviancy reinforcing, it's bizarre and concerning how they are attacking the family unit.
Literally agree with this person's comment.
They will never perfect Blade. Wesley Snipes ruled that character.
Even if the writers were creating this crap on their own, the management still accepted it. The end results are still the management for pushing on the junk nobody wanted.
Exactly.
I know that it's not possible but what if this is like the end of disney as a company would be insane
I thought the same thing
Ohhh It’s VERY possible. NO Company.. No matter how big they are, are “too big to fail/fall”.
If Disney full-on implodes, I will actually celebrate 🎊 🎉.. Maybe then, all the agendas, narratives and stupid wokeness will die and the REAL DISNEY and what it’s meant to be, will return.. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes.
If it was the end would it be a lesson learned in the industry?
good
That would also spell the end of the world 😯
It's now become quite clear that Feige was NOT the actual genius behind The MCU's success. We now see what The MCU looks like with Feige in complete control. That means that it was in fact JAMES GUNN, JON FAVREAU and apparently IKE PERLMUTTER keeping costs under control that were truly responsible for the overwhelming success of Phases 1 though 3.
Rusoo brothers honestly brought all the hype. When Captain America Winter Soldier came out, that was when Marvel ballooned in popularity because of how good the movie was.
In football terms feige is the belliche of the mcu. He took credit for his star qbs accomplishments
Russo Brothers as well. It all comes down to having better directors and writers.
The Kingpin is perfect casting. Too bad Disney has him fighting little girls instead of Daredevil or Spider-Man.
It’s just baffling how determined Disney was to be right that they pushed paying customers out the door.
6:30 Getting warm. Now who gives the orders to the ones making orders? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Loki season 2 is literally the only thing papering over the cracks and holding Disney/Marvel together right now. Let's hope the season finale doesn't dissapoint.
I'm hoping Loki S2 ep 6 will be great BUT most of the finales on Disney+ shows have been terrible, so I'm not keeping my hopes up, which is sad to say because Loki is my favorite character throughout the MCU.
I do believe it’s a combination of both, untalented writers and woke executives
Listen to the core audience who was there for the first few films before the world became obsessed with the MCU. Those films were targeted at the actual COMIC BOOK FANS and that's what brought the "normies" in. When you start listening to what the normies say at the expense of the core fans, it will go in the toilet and boy has it.
True that very well said!!
I've.been saying this about both comic books and skateboarding, and wrestling, for a long time, in my heart...
Jonathan Majors is a good actor
Yeah he is, its the writers who are fcking him up. The Harder They Fall was an amazing movie with him starring in the lead.
Yeah, I don’t know why that dude was tryna dunk on his acting skills throughout his video
They're not gonna change course immediately... that would be admitting failure. They're just gonna keep on truckin', till the inevitable end of the line. They're gonna conclude that people are just tired of comic movies and move on to something else. These out of touch millionaires will never understand what it takes to make good stories. At least in the past the creators knew how to entertain, these people are just plain arrogant and cynical.
Funny thing is that the article thinks that the Black Widow movie flopped because of trolls.
Truth is that the movie failed because they should have made that movie years ago when all the other core Avengers movies were being made and fans were pissed about it.
Plus it confused the hell out of general audiences because it was released out of alignment with it's place on the MCU timeline.
I'm wondering if Disney is going to have to do like they did with the comics start selling characters ip to other companies, if things don't get better
Jonathan majors as the kangs is too much like a key and peele skit
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer
We are now entering the 3rd phase of this particular "truth"... where everybody and there mom pretends it's been obvious all along... but simultaneously doesn't own their part in it... so nothing ever truly changes. Similar to wearing masks during covid... and the behavior that followed.
The fact that the marvels come out this month and there’s no marketing behind it is telling
If someone like David Leitch directed Black Widow like he did John Whick or Atomic Blonde, it would have been worth watching.
Always listen to your customers!
Salesmen with souls are a pained group.
What they need to do is go back to just movies.
The Joker dont listen to reasoning..and he don't take advice...smiling
That was from PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE Tyrone! Large Marge!👍👍
I have just given up on marvel now just enjoying the fall.
Umm yeah…didn’t the directors of that SOLO movie try to do they’re own thing, then Kennedy stepped in and got rid of them and changed it. From that point on Disney would tightly oversee the message’s implemented into they’re movies. It’s obvious the writers have they’re hands tied.
U are so right about Spiderman 2
so much "inclusive language" bs there
Something tells me they are, in fact, not going to change course.
Hearing tyrone saying variety always makes me laugh 😂😂
The fall of a monopoly empire
Now knowing where everything went, they should’ve had Thanos win
Yeah I'm about to finnish the MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios book. It's a have to read for cinephiles. It's not a puff piece for Marvel. It's pretty brutal in many chapters. I recommend.
They gonna have to change course immediately and that's the bottom line because the public said so. 😂😂😂
Cpt Marvel, Miss Marvel, Kate Bishop, Iron Heart now Echo😂😂😂😂 If they invested time and money in chracters the public really like Disney wouldnt be in this situation...
I think they don’t want to change narratives. They are gonna try to figure out how to make the movie succeed with implementing more of it and by doing that, they are gonna bring back the OG actors. I understand bringing back characters but the actors are not gonna outlive their portrayed characters, I think it’s time for a recast along with an entire reboot of the MCU. But regardless it’s not gonna work.
I honestly think that only focussing on white characters is also wrong. Everybody wants to see black characters. The problem is turning marvel movies into chick flicks.
There is nothing wrong with white characters. The problem the fans have is that when they race and gender swapping of its characters just pander to the "modern audience."
Movie studios can take any existing black characters such as Storm, Blade, Falcon, Icon, Static Shock, and, to name a few. The "Blade" trilogy, except for the third movie and "Black Panther" were major hits.
Everyone keeps calling me nobody, I'm watching Loki season 2.
I enjoyed your Vince McMahon impression!!
Man it feels great to be a DC fan. Granted some of our movies were mid, but we do not have to deal with this bullshit. Granted i know warner bros are annoying but hey
@Brandonweifu the marvels is taking the crown
Keep DC dark and not make it comedic like marvel
Now that’s Vince McMahon 😂😂
they gon mess x men up
(Representing every time Kang gets killed off in every MCU project.)
Kang the Conqueror: I’ve seem to have fallen! I’m still alive! I’m just in excruciating pain! The leg is definitely broken!
About the thing with the writers, I think that it is definitely a minority. The same thing has been happening in the comics. They have a particular ideology and only know how to write based on that. Plus they've been pulling writers and directors at times that have no business with certain properties. I mean you can't honestly think the She-hulk writers are ground breaking. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
It was a really good little rant you had man, said it perfectly. :)
#putmeinchargeofMarvel. Guaranteed skyrocket in viewership and box office
It's so unbelievable that cancel culture and outside groups are destroying these films. You have to be purposely trying to destroy Marvel to make us feel this way. Think about that for a minute.
Comes full circle. #1 rule for the Entertainment industry.... LISTEN TO THE FANS!!!!!!
I remember Joe Rogan calling this stuff out back then, wow.
Me too! Lol
Just stick to the source material. Easy. Make the not-in-the-know fans, WANT to read the comics!
I swear the real star wars is happening in real life. Bot army=clone army. Rebels vs empire. It's crazy. Gina Corrano is our real hero, a female hero we'd all embrace. She is our Jedi!
This is why they keep it up, we keep taking crap like ECO. We never asked for her, wanted her yet we accept her.
@ivanagustinortiz5237 Difference is Guardians from the comics still had fans and they handled them much better.
Wow... Thank you South Park!
I will disagree about Loki. Loki is single handedly holding the mcu afloat. Season 2 is even better than season 1.
Even if writers were told what to write or add to stories, that still doesn't justify how bad they do it most of the times. Some decisions feel like they are done out of spite.
The thing is most people who hate what Disney is doing want them to fail completely to somehow prove that anything inclusive is a death blow. Us who love Disney just want them to do better
I don't understand the hate for kang, i love Johnathan mayjors as kang, his performance is unique for both villain and neutral rolls as Kang.
Disney obviously is going down the path Hasbro went when they killed off Optimus Prime (Iron Man) plus majority of the original Autobots (the original Avengers)…. and gave us Rodimus Prime and the season 3 Autobots (the recent Marvel characters). Now with the talk of bringing Iron Man back due to low ratings and negative feedback, it’s the equivalent to Hasbro resurrecting Optimus Prime.
Nice parable here brother, that's why it will not be understood by most 😅
Yeah Marvel is sinking I don’t even think Deadpool/Wolverine, Spiderman, X men, Or F4 Can save them at this point Because Tom Holland’s Spiderman is Alright I didn’t really like that he wasn’t really a nerd or Mj wasn’t comic accurate and no uncle ben or harry but other than those problems with The MCU Spiderman it was good.
Great vid.
And all facts
The Marvels was good it just required too much homework for a theatrical release but it is not a good movie for people who think woke is a thing
I like how Stevens Spielberg humiliate his khatleen lady on the set of indiana Jones 5
The saying go woke go broke exists for a reason to bad these mfs can't seem to realize that until its too late
If sony listened when they gave us no way home. Disney can do the same thing
The MCU book is on audio, just got it at the library...
if marvel didnt turn around and mess up everything with the M She U, stuff like she hulk wouldnt even bother me as much because id just be like,ok that ones not for me. Deciding to make everything trash and forced with woke identity politics made it all not for me and most people. i dont even think its superhero fatigue, i honestly believe it is just fatigue of being preached at by people who dont know shit about the real world.
Wokeness is their religion
I enjoyed Loki
Did he just say “from the awful Loki season 1”? Lol really?? Smh 🤦🏾♂️
That’s so true…. “The customer and the sales man”
It’s funny how the consumer knows what they want and the direction necessary to fix it. It’s a business not a political platform. They are all just activists or being told to write it based on that woke score sheet
the score is call ESG... look it up related to blackrock
Robert JR was so right
??
Michael Keaton was a Good Batman..then.Ben Affleck ..Recast every 15 or 18yrs is Necessary
780K likes with 60k views. TYRONE something is going on with your channel
"Wailing on woke stuff all time is kinda lazy, too."
Cartman, recent SP episode.
I mean, I get the angryness, but Nerdrotic wouldnt exist without wailing on woke stuff.
If you let up even a little they will push it more
What's up Tyrone, great video.
You know how marvel could turn things around, just give us a man’s man Hercules movie
For the love of Zeus, please hahahaha
Disney you need to hear this, bringing back RDJ and Scarlet isn’t gonna help you succeed. Try harder.
Great Thanos impression my man 👊😎
Just remember, big companies come and go.
🎵 So the fans were right all along🎵
Well, whaddaya know? The syllables fit. Go figure.
.would be Better in another company's hands...sell both iP
VARIETTTTYYYYYY!!!! 😂😂😂
Spiderman 2 has good gameplay, I'll give them that. But when it comes to the story which was generic and dialogue which as well wasn't that great, I agree on that aspect of it being a disappointment. Another Issue was the implementation of woke content. I Don't understand the copious amounts of positive reviews it is receiving. I believe people are rating it on the premise of how great the first one turned out, so obviously there is some biasedness. This sort of reminds me of the last of us 2 controversy.
@@Brandonweifu What baffles me is that you can't wrap your head around someone having an opinion. Chill out bro it's just my opinion. You don't need to attack me.
I'm actually enjoying loki..
I wanna see the marvels because they say it will flop 😅 and echo looks amazing I don't think reboot is the answer I think a step back take a year or 2 write good movie then return with a bang
The Vince comparison is spot on.
Does anyone remember that time Nerdrotic was positive?
I’m not saying that I think he’s not making some good points, but he’s overly negative.
The worst business decision marvel studios made was working with Disney.
I don't know. I feel like Disney goes out of its way to hire writers who agree with their ideology, or too 😺 to fight back.
Loki season 1 is one of the only good things in this phase
That super imposed photo of Kevin Feige just screams “I need halp!”
We should create a gofundme and buy back Marvel from Disney. I would put up $$$$.
Do reviews on Gen V and Invincible Season 2 please🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
X men and FF4 can save it , let the Russo Brothers handle it all
Idk if it’s Fiege maybe he had no choice because of how Disney Executive forcing their hand.
I want to hear more of your sales stories
Could be completely wrong but the laugh at the end sounds like its from "Tell them Large Marge sent ya"🤣
WEIRD, WEIRD
You can def use RDJ as the version of him who became Dr Anthony Stark, Sorcerer Supreme
but,
the story has GOT to be flawless
@@bk6555 hahaha …pretty much.
Its the writing lately bringing down Marvel
Who knew Thanos snapped away the MCU too