@@TheUmmahFightCampMichael Jai white said some oh Bruce Lee was a actor as if he don't do movies and martial arts movies that he's able to get because Bruce Lee Michael Jai white did point karate n he's gonna talk about a man who had real fights on the street? Makes no sense they just mad cause Bruce Lee still the man
In order to see Bruce Lee as a real fighter we would have needed to see him compete as a fighter on a regular basis against high level opponents. As far as I know we have no real evidence of that. Maybe he was but there's no compelling evidence for that.
People who know about Martial Arts can tell if someone can fight just by how they move and manage range. This is apparent just by watching how Bruce Lee choreographed fights in movies, and why these fights still hold up today.
Thank you All I see lately is people trying to discredit Lee. Why? It seems to be the mission of the millennials and younger, but that’s another conversation I’m glad you’re making this series. BTW; the fight scene with Kareem , IMO is great. He covers distance and move around a much taller opponent beautifully. I know is choreographed but the speed is impressive
Thank You for this video Sayf! Personally I am a Michael J White Fan but I did not agree with him when he made that statement about Bruce Lee that he could beat him in a fight solely because he is bigger than Bruce Lee. Size doesn't matter in a fight! Sure it has its advantages but it does not dictate that the bigger person will win simply on size alone. I am tired of people that say Bruce Lee wasn't a real fighter as if they knew him personally and were there. I can tell you that just because a person isn't in combat sports as a career doesn't mean that they cannot fight. There's a lot of people that aren't involved in combative sports that are awesome fighters. Thank you for this video my friend but I thank you for all of your content. I am glad that I found your channel when I did and have been subscribed to your channel for a while now. I can tell by listening to what you have to say and how you move that you know your stuff. Thanks again for sharing and have yourself a fantastic day my friend!
The first thing a real knower of martial arts observes is how a person deals with his foot positions before, during and after a kick or hit. This requires knowledge of how the weight of the entire body is distributed. Ha, Bruce was outstanding in this. Most people who comment on Bruce don't even know how to walk properly. What to speak of the rest. Ty bro for defending the fighting empire which we call BRUCE LEE. Hehe.😅
You have the right to opinion but I was born in 2003 and I agree with bruce lee 100% also a fan of him wish he was still here and his son too both gone way too soon.
@@albert20001000 I will say that Chuck Norris was a POINT fighter! Good, but NOT at all a contact fighter. Norris was not like Joe Lewis. Norris would have been shell shocked sparring with Bruce Lee.
I like your even-minded, fair and informed reviews. You are one of the few mature -- and actually knowledgeable -- commentators on TH-cam. BTW, I would love your view on Gary Spiers someday.
@artemisia2002us: "someday" is now: GARY SPIERS is owed a debt of gratitude from every karate fighter who has had to listen to jack leg couch fighters bash karate. I count him as one of my karate mentors. RIP Gary.
Bruce Lee was the man! Will always be my favorite martial artist! Also, bruce had high respect for muhammad ali. That's why his style was similar to ali's "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" 👀
Was Bruce Lee a professional sports fighter like an MMA guy in stadium? Nothing quite like that, that İ am aware of. However, how was he not a fighter? His whole life was immersed in fight training , philosophy, innovation, teaching and testing. Many of us on here have fought often coming up in life but never went into professional fighting. We train, develop, hone, test and obsess in an manner like Bruce did. Most of us are unknown. He has been gone since the 70's and we are all still talking about him. İf that doesn't say something, İ don't know what else could make someone see the light.
Thanks for sharing. I’m an old timer (72) & a fan of Bruce lee & Muhammad Ali, the people’s champion. Bruce lee grew up in Hong Kong streets fighting & testing his Kung fu skills due to rivalry schools or gyms then, an old school thing hence he could fight & was a avid old school boxing fan. Seems his family history legacy(his father) linage to red-boat Chinese opera, we’re very proficient in Kung fu artists. Bruce lee was a martial arts pioneer who streamlined his approach in martial expression & revolutionary thinking. “Creating Individual is always more important than any established style or system”…..B. Lee
Thank you Sir I knew these vids were going to be good! I always thought Bruce Lee to be the Real Deal but you illustrating the difference is new to me. I heard the foot stomp but never saw it Bruce was lightning fast!
Are you going to include the video of Bruce Lee sparring with one of his students in your next video? Aslo well spoken I always learn a lot when I watch your channel.
Thanks for the share brother , good video good vibes and I’d agree Bruce Lee did know how to fight and used to do rooftop fights and friends with Buk Sing Choi Li Fut Masters ….. appreciate your work 🔥 Take care ✝️
Well said and great explanation! Agree that Bruce Lee was way ahead of his time and was indeed a real fighter and great Martial Artist! Keep up the good work. I was born and raised in Manhattans Lower East side back in early 1970’s. Where in Manhattan did you grow up?
I Totally Agree With You..! Being born and raised in Philly l know one of Phillies Greatest Master's was Ozzie Wright Master of the Turtle System of Philadelphia...!
So true OG I studied Judo from the age of 9 to 15 at 15 started JKD and it made me better just from using the trapping method I used it in many fights and beat my opponents
Read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do years ago, Bruce lee was wayyyyyy ahead of his time. I also saw a martial arts seminar in 1995 by a JKD guy who mentioned one of the reasons Bruce came to the US was that he was involved in a number of fights with youth gangs, the kind where two groups would battle it out on a roof and the winners would throw the losers off! In another story he mentioned while in the US, sometimes Bruce would get picked on at nightclubs he was partying at by bigger guys who would end up getting sent to the hospital for their bullying. He was the real deal!
Bruce lee first student Jessie Glover was a Black man Judo black belt he was grabbling and cross training with Jessie Glover and one of Bruce Lee's little known top students was also Black he was Jessie Glovers half brother they called him Black Hercules mr. mike Lee ,good in Hapkido and other arts ,thereis a lot of politics in jeet kun do , and Eskrima , when Game of Death came out all attention focused on Dan Inosanto and the Philippino martial arts , but Dans initial master teacher was the legendary Angel Cabales of the serrada system my lineage.
Bruce was definitely a fighter. A lot of these BJJ fans think Royce Gracie would of beat Bruce Lee and Gracie in my opinion would of never got close enough to use his BJJ. Hayward Nishoks who was a pan American judo champion admitted he couldn't get in on Bruce Lee. He said he was too fast.
UFC 1 was a Gracie commercial that's why they didn't allow wrestlers and blocked healthy 400lb Rikishi whose teeth broke his opponent ankle because wraps weren't allowed as well and Gracie used his belt to choke out a guy who could actually wrestle a little.
In the concept of the technique the jiu-jitsu "professor" was teaching wasn't completely off however. It would have made more tactical sense for a kuzushi entrance osoto gari? But you would have to pull in the elbow?
@9:00 An attack to the eye or throat is simple and direct, but if you want to learn Chinna or Jujutsu type joint manipulation as in the detailed video that you highlight, then there are many details to get correct. It's not as simple as just bending a wrist. The angles of force are what makes or breaks jointlocks.
@Ninja9JKD: NO! I do NOT support Chin Na. NO! ANYTHING that takes fine motor skills I DO NOT support. I SHOWED THE BJJ VIDEO! LOOK AT IT! THAT IS TOO MUCH. END OF DISCUSSION.
Bruce Lee was the best. Imagine being a public figure surrounded by cameras and not a single bit of video showing him in any competitive open rules fight and still being called a true martial artist or even the best. No one else will ever be able to pull that off.
These humans don't understand Bruce Lee's mastery of imposed will / self-expression, that is efficient in practical application. Jon Jones is an example of application of the oblique kick (semantics) in the ring, the same kick that Bruce Lee used against Chuck Norris in a movie , "The Way of the Dragon." Yes, the same kick Jon Jones used against Rampage Jackson and other Professional fighters.
@michaelholmes4374: I don't have to look up anybody buddy. You do. Bruce Lee taught black men buddy. Sorry that people want to hide that. If I want to know about him more I can listen to Jessie Glover or Howard Eastman. Thank you very much. Next, I WAS TRAINING when Lee was alive. What were you doing? I am an authority on fighting buddy. I know what he said and what he meant.
The BJJ video you showed is the perfect example of why Bruce Lee didn't believe in styles. You become confined within a box which is limiting. BJJ doesn't train strikes so a simple strike defence isn't apparent to them. This is why BJJ is only useful in certain aspects of the ground game. Anyone who says Bruce Lee was not a fighter because he didn't have a fight record is being stupid. In the 60's there was mostly only point fighting. Bruce Lee did not accept this as fighting. There was no money in this and he was pursuing acting and teaching celebs. If some of the top Karate champions of the day were being coached by this little 5ft 7 135lbs man he must have had something. Also not forgetting he was not a Karate stylist and we know there was a lot of martial arts division in those days. So top guys seeking coaching outside of their respective dojos would have been quite something back in the day.
His students were not of the same ability because, in true chinese pragmatism, bruce said...why teach someone how to beat you...He didn't teach all that he knew.
I completely disregard people who say Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter because if you can't see Bruce Lee is a fighter I have to question your abilities
I agree!
That footage of Mr. Lee is from 1965. That accentuates your point even more.Thank you for your videos.
@@TheUmmahFightCampMichael Jai white said some oh Bruce Lee was a actor as if he don't do movies and martial arts movies that he's able to get because Bruce Lee Michael Jai white did point karate n he's gonna talk about a man who had real fights on the street? Makes no sense they just mad cause Bruce Lee still the man
In order to see Bruce Lee as a real fighter we would have needed to see him compete as a fighter on a regular basis against high level opponents. As far as I know we have no real evidence of that.
Maybe he was but there's no compelling evidence for that.
People who know about Martial Arts can tell if someone can fight just by how they move and manage range. This is apparent just by watching how Bruce Lee choreographed fights in movies, and why these fights still hold up today.
Thank you
All I see lately is people trying to discredit Lee. Why? It seems to be the mission of the millennials and younger, but that’s another conversation
I’m glad you’re making this series.
BTW; the fight scene with Kareem , IMO is great. He covers distance and move around a much taller opponent beautifully. I know is choreographed but the speed is impressive
Agree 100%. Great to see Sifu Lee getting the credit he deserves.
Thank You for this video Sayf! Personally I am a Michael J White Fan but I did not agree with him when he made that statement about Bruce Lee that he could beat him in a fight solely because he is bigger than Bruce Lee. Size doesn't matter in a fight! Sure it has its advantages but it does not dictate that the bigger person will win simply on size alone. I am tired of people that say Bruce Lee wasn't a real fighter as if they knew him personally and were there. I can tell you that just because a person isn't in combat sports as a career doesn't mean that they cannot fight. There's a lot of people that aren't involved in combative sports that are awesome fighters. Thank you for this video my friend but I thank you for all of your content. I am glad that I found your channel when I did and have been subscribed to your channel for a while now. I can tell by listening to what you have to say and how you move that you know your stuff. Thanks again for sharing and have yourself a fantastic day my friend!
The first thing a real knower of martial arts observes is how a person deals with his foot positions before, during and after a kick or hit. This requires knowledge of how the weight of the entire body is distributed. Ha, Bruce was outstanding in this. Most people who comment on Bruce don't even know how to walk properly. What to speak of the rest. Ty bro for defending the fighting empire which we call BRUCE LEE. Hehe.😅
OG is having fun with this series. I fully expect to have a new appreciation for Bruce Lee by the time we're done.
One grab means one punch in the face. Second grab means another punch in the face. A third grab means looking to the person on the floor. Lol
The only people who disregard bruce lee are the little kids born aftwr 1990.
You have the right to opinion but I was born in 2003 and I agree with bruce lee 100% also a fan of him wish he was still here and his son too both gone way too soon.
That's not True Chuck Norris says I was a professional fight and Bruce Lee was not. He was good, but I'm a pro fighter!
@@albert20001000 I will say that Chuck Norris was a POINT fighter! Good, but NOT at all a contact fighter. Norris was not like Joe Lewis. Norris would have been shell shocked sparring with Bruce Lee.
I like your even-minded, fair and informed reviews. You are one of the few mature -- and actually knowledgeable -- commentators on TH-cam. BTW, I would love your view on Gary Spiers someday.
@artemisia2002us: "someday" is now: GARY SPIERS is owed a debt of gratitude from every karate fighter who has had to listen to jack leg couch fighters bash karate. I count him as one of my karate mentors. RIP Gary.
Bruce Lee-“Bite…Are We not animals?”
Then Bruce touched his knee, where the “SoftSpot” used to be, where his peripherals couldn’t see
Bruce Lee was the man! Will always be my favorite martial artist! Also, bruce had high respect for muhammad ali. That's why his style was similar to ali's "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" 👀
Was Bruce Lee a professional sports fighter like an MMA guy in stadium? Nothing quite like that, that İ am aware of.
However, how was he not a fighter? His whole life was immersed in fight training , philosophy, innovation, teaching and testing.
Many of us on here have fought often coming up in life but never went into professional fighting.
We train, develop, hone, test and obsess in an manner like Bruce did. Most of us are unknown. He has been gone since the 70's and we are all still talking about him.
İf that doesn't say something, İ don't know what else could make someone see the light.
Thank you for your content!
Bruce Lee was over 50 years ahead of his time in terms of martial arts prowess.
Thanks for sharing. I’m an old timer (72) & a fan of Bruce lee & Muhammad Ali, the people’s champion. Bruce lee grew up in Hong Kong streets fighting & testing his Kung fu skills due to rivalry schools or gyms then, an old school thing hence he could fight & was a avid old school boxing fan. Seems his family history legacy(his father) linage to red-boat Chinese opera, we’re very proficient in Kung fu artists. Bruce lee was a martial arts pioneer who streamlined his approach in martial expression & revolutionary thinking. “Creating Individual is always more important than any established style or system”…..B. Lee
Fantastic!
Fantastic! Thank you Sr 🙏
Man I needed to see this!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you Sir I knew these vids were going to be good! I always thought Bruce Lee to be the Real Deal but you illustrating the difference is new to me. I heard the foot stomp but never saw it Bruce was lightning fast!
Absolutely loved the video ...
Hello sir. I wanted to ask you what style would you recommend for self-defense if it came to that in the street.
I think he already did a video on this. Its muay thai clinching for street self defense.
Just let your hands go 👊🏽
The art of fighting without fighting
Id say Karate and boxing but I think he has videos on your question.
Just on point, as always.
Are you going to include the video of Bruce Lee sparring with one of his students in your next video? Aslo well spoken I always learn a lot when I watch your channel.
Keep teaching the way sir 🙇🏾
Yes... I agree with you 1000 percent... OSS
💯 percent agree with you. In fact, that Bruce Lee screen test footage is from 1964...
As always great content!
Thanks for the share brother , good video good vibes and I’d agree Bruce Lee did know how to fight and used to do rooftop fights and friends with Buk Sing Choi Li Fut Masters ….. appreciate your work 🔥
Take care ✝️
Great info as always. The problem is, is that everyone wants to spend their fighting instead of thinking Self-Defense.
Well said and great explanation! Agree that Bruce Lee was way ahead of his time and was indeed a real fighter and great Martial Artist! Keep up the good work. I was born and raised in Manhattans Lower East side back in early 1970’s.
Where in Manhattan did you grow up?
I Totally Agree With You..! Being born and raised in Philly l know one of Phillies Greatest Master's was Ozzie Wright Master of the Turtle System of Philadelphia...!
This was so profound. I can only imagine what us next.
THANK YOU !
Bro, I can’t believe people think Gene Lebell taught Bruce Lee Judo!!!
He said in 1959 that a man who had learned boxing and wrestling for 1 year would defeat a life long martial artist.
I am tuned in
So true OG I studied Judo from the age of 9 to 15 at 15 started JKD and it made me better just from using the trapping method I used it in many fights and beat my opponents
Read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do years ago, Bruce lee was wayyyyyy ahead of his time. I also saw a martial arts seminar in 1995 by a JKD guy who mentioned one of the reasons Bruce came to the US was that he was involved in a number of fights with youth gangs, the kind where two groups would battle it out on a roof and the winners would throw the losers off! In another story he mentioned while in the US, sometimes Bruce would get picked on at nightclubs he was partying at by bigger guys who would end up getting sent to the hospital for their bullying. He was the real deal!
Point well made
Based W take Sayf
Bruce lee first student Jessie Glover was a Black man Judo black belt he was grabbling and cross training with Jessie Glover and one of Bruce Lee's little known top students was also Black he was Jessie Glovers half brother they called him Black Hercules mr. mike Lee ,good in Hapkido and other arts ,thereis a lot of politics in jeet kun do , and Eskrima , when Game of Death came out all attention focused on Dan Inosanto and the Philippino martial arts , but Dans initial master teacher was the legendary Angel Cabales of the serrada system my lineage.
Honestly, Bruce Lee would’ve never let people like Gene Lebell, Chuck Norris or Joe Lewis dictate Bull-$hit moves on him.
Bruce was definitely a fighter. A lot of these BJJ fans think Royce Gracie would of beat Bruce Lee and Gracie in my opinion would of never got close enough to use his BJJ. Hayward Nishoks who was a pan American judo champion admitted he couldn't get in on Bruce Lee. He said he was too fast.
If you dont know what martial arts were like when he sparred at the demo, you need to sit down. He was decades ahead of the game
UFC 1 was a Gracie commercial that's why they didn't allow wrestlers and blocked healthy 400lb Rikishi whose teeth broke his opponent ankle because wraps weren't allowed as well and Gracie used his belt to choke out a guy who could actually wrestle a little.
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In the concept of the technique the jiu-jitsu "professor" was teaching wasn't completely off however. It would have made more tactical sense for a kuzushi entrance osoto gari? But you would have to pull in the elbow?
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@9:00 An attack to the eye or throat is simple and direct, but if you want to learn Chinna or Jujutsu type joint manipulation as in the detailed video that you highlight, then there are many details to get correct. It's not as simple as just bending a wrist. The angles of force are what makes or breaks jointlocks.
@Ninja9JKD: NO! I do NOT support Chin Na. NO! ANYTHING that takes fine motor skills I DO NOT support. I SHOWED THE BJJ VIDEO! LOOK AT IT! THAT IS TOO MUCH. END OF DISCUSSION.
Bruce Lee was the best. Imagine being a public figure surrounded by cameras and not a single bit of video showing him in any competitive open rules fight and still being called a true martial artist or even the best. No one else will ever be able to pull that off.
These humans don't understand Bruce Lee's mastery of imposed will / self-expression, that is efficient in practical application. Jon Jones is an example of application of the oblique kick (semantics) in the ring, the same kick that Bruce Lee used against Chuck Norris in a movie , "The Way of the Dragon." Yes, the same kick Jon Jones used against Rampage Jackson and other Professional fighters.
If you want to know how good Bruce was look up james demile
@michaelholmes4374: I don't have to look up anybody buddy. You do. Bruce Lee taught black men buddy. Sorry that people want to hide that. If I want to know about him more I can listen to Jessie Glover or Howard Eastman. Thank you very much. Next, I WAS TRAINING when Lee was alive. What were you doing? I am an authority on fighting buddy. I know what he said and what he meant.
Do you consider joint manipulation/Chin Na to be a useless skill? Same with BJJ, useless?
The BJJ video you showed is the perfect example of why Bruce Lee didn't believe in styles. You become confined within a box which is limiting. BJJ doesn't train strikes so a simple strike defence isn't apparent to them. This is why BJJ is only useful in certain aspects of the ground game. Anyone who says Bruce Lee was not a fighter because he didn't have a fight record is being stupid. In the 60's there was mostly only point fighting. Bruce Lee did not accept this as fighting. There was no money in this and he was pursuing acting and teaching celebs. If some of the top Karate champions of the day were being coached by this little 5ft 7 135lbs man he must have had something. Also not forgetting he was not a Karate stylist and we know there was a lot of martial arts division in those days. So top guys seeking coaching outside of their respective dojos would have been quite something back in the day.
His students were not of the same ability because, in true chinese pragmatism, bruce said...why teach someone how to beat you...He didn't teach all that he knew.
Bruce Lee was the best fighter and martial artist in his time.
A lot of moves have been bastardised and lost their potency I think.
This is why 10th degree black belts loose to a untrained street Thug FACT😮❤❤❤❤❤❤
LOL. 🙄