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V2, V2A, No Pole Skate, Double Flexion & Extension Skate Skiing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2014
- David Lawrence at XC Ski Academy.com shares the concept of double flexion and double extension during V2, V2 Alternate and No Pole Skate Skiing for cross country skiing and skiers who want to learn how to balance longer, ride a flat ski and increase power output in their skate ski technique.
Single most helpful XC instruction video on youtube. Doubled my speed in one day with this! Wish there were more!!!
Best single resource for Nordic skiing on the web Soooo well explained and executed!
Great video! As an adult onset skier, it took me a long time to figure out that V2 is really a double pole followed by a skate step. This video really demonstrates that well.
Adult onset skier😂
Started skating last year, and it's been a constant battle to move my body further up and further forward. Finally I feel like I'm getting to the point where I can actually apply this technique consistently, but oh my is it brutal! I still cannot understand how the top boys can do this for 50km.
Try getting asthma meds.
It is a real eye-opener, particularly timing of abs flexion. Thank You so much!
This is an excellent video. I am a masters racer and I had reached the same conclusion i.e. there was a double extension and flexion on each ski. However when told people about this and asked my coach whether it was correct they looked at me as if I was a lunatic. However you have provided confirmation that its correct and I must say its helped my skiing a lot. I look forward to your future videos.
Just starting off the ski season again in the Canadian Rockies, and loved your explanation of the "double-double" . I look forward to more of your videos.
Great and very clear instruction. I've been stuck on V1 and will give your tips a try tomorrow.
Great description and demo of v2 and the slow motion really helps!
I've taken multiple skate skiing classes and have been frustrated with a disconnect I am have between what I am seeing and what I have been told to do. I think the hardest thing to get is the timing of the poling. The slow-mo helps a lot. I can see how you are poling in the direction of travel and really initiating the transition at the same time but your hands are still past your hips by the time you plant the opposite ski.
I have been extending on the ski I am poling before transitioning and I have always felt like I am super slow and something is wrong. In other words I am going flexion onto the ski and extension and then poling into flexion and extending again on the same ski and then flexion back onto the other ski. I have been doing an whole extra extension. The frustrating thing is no one watching me has been able to tell me this.
I have always known I am doing something wrong and even tried to get a private lesson once to get the instructor to watch me, but he ended up bringing other new skiers and it was a waste of my time. I have been doing it wrong so long it will be hard to break the habit. No wonder I am working so hard and also so slow, the extra extension was what was killing me and it took this video to be able to mentally see what I am dong. Thank you. I have a lot of practice to do.
Thanks Gary! Let me know what else you'd like to see (and be sure to follow the fun on any of your favorite social media outlets). Hopefully, my next video tip will be out soon.
Спасибо за ролик, очень позитивный и понятный. (Thank you for the video, very positive and clear.)
Очень красивый стиль! Прям балет на лыжах! Спасибо! 😇👍
Thanks a lot, Mr. David Lawrence. It's very useful.
Awesome video man. Very well explained and this put
the cherry on top of concepts I just learned in Austria. Keep the videos coming please
Спасибо! Наглядно- ноги, руки, корпус, сгибание, разгибание (как пружина)
Nice explanations. Thank you!
Nice break down on movements
Excellent!
Please tell me that you had the same problems as I have now when you started. I have the feeling that I will never learn. But I will not give up...
BTW I agree with Robert Arnot's post of a month ago.
20,000+ miles of skating over the years is why I believe I have a bunion. Any tips on how not to aggravate it while skating?
technique looks quite good, but modern skate techniques is little bit different. Squatting is doing before you change the legs. In such case the leg is pushing more powerful, legs are changed faster and the total speed is higher.
super
So question for you. I race SUP...paddleboarding ..internationally. A huge part of the power is as your body rocks back forward and your hips snap back forward....with the paddle still in the water. Have you tried...with double poling...keepoing your poles in the snow for the full extension so you have more force...and a more solid base?
The most force a skier or paddler generates occurs at the beginning of the stroke. How long I keep my poles or my paddle in the snow or the water depends on my intent. For example, when I SUP and want to generate speed quickly, I take short, fast and hard strokes to get up to speed. The cost is a great deal of energy expenditure, but it allows me to generate a LOT of force quickly, requiring short strokes with little to no follow through. But, if I'm covering distance, I may increase my pole or paddle stroke, keeping my pole on the snow longer or my paddle in the water longer. I may "squeeze" a little more glide from a bigger follow through, but I don't generate more force. What do you think?
Please clarify: does this mean just flex and extend for each leg action?
david, I have been skiing for some time but have never got the poles first before skating in the v2 A . any drills to get this 'poles first ' concept?
А подводящие упражнения уже есть?
What does V1, V2 and V2A actually stand for? In V2 you're poling with every flexion/extension; in V2A you're poling every other flexion/extension. In your V1 Uphill video, V1 appears to be the same as V2A except in V1 you're pushing yourself laterally uphill but otherwise it appear identical. Am I making this more confusing than it should be?
Although I'm not 100% sure, here's what I understand. The "V" stands for the position of your skis. So every skate technique starts with "V." The V-1 means you double pole on one side, skis and poles hitting the ground simultaneously. The V-2A ("A" standing for "alternate") means you double every other skate push, poles hitting the ground after the ski lands on the snow. The V-2 means you double pole with every skate push, poles hitting the ground after the ski lands on the snow.
@@Xcskiacademy Same question - I don't really understand the answer. I don't see the difference between V2A and V1. In fact, I particularly don't understand this part of the answer: "The V-1 means you double pole on one side". ...or maybe I don't understand what "doublepole" is. I was thinking that V1 is single poling, i.e. "1" but the answer confused me. Why I think that V1 is single poling because you don't pole with both poles at once but left (right) first and right (left) second... usually up the hill... ie. slow ... but when I speed it up I'm immediately doing V2A.... Confused. Luckily I can ski even without what individual letters and numbers in V1, V2, VA2 stand for. At least V0 is absolutely clear!
@@tdz999 I think it's confusing because are we timing when the motion initiates or when the motion makes power? Example, I think of diagonal stride as same side/same side, because right ski goes forward while right pole makes power, but it's explained opposite.
The way I think is V1 makes one type of "V" if you look behind you at your tracks you make while you ski. If you pole when you step off your left ski onto your right, you get a stretched-out line diagonally to the right after a short line diagonally to the left, and this repeats. V2 makes two types of "V's". One on the left side, and one on the right, each the same size. The V1 "V" is also wider than the V2 "V".
I would put it slightly different than what xcskiacademy said: V1 is poling a bit before stepping down onto your ski, on one side only, whereas V2 is poling a bit after stepping down onto your ski, on both sides, and V2A is poling a bit after stepping down onto your ski, on one side only. V2A is also a narrower stance than V1, and generates less power but is more efficient at higher speeds due to its ability to improve glide. V1 generates more power and is more efficient at lower speeds due to coupling the friction of pushing off your old ski onto your new ski, with the poling action. In addition, V1 is also less "square" in angle than V2A, hence one of the names for V1 being "offset".
Or to put it a different way, you use V1 up steep hills and V2A on flatter terrain -- flip them around and you'll be tired and slow.
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We call them Wasberg and Mogren styles...
This technique looks extremely exhausting.... two lunges per step? Who on the world cup skis like this?
The punctuation and word order in your title is very confusing
HOW THE TOPS CAN DO 50KM?ha,ha,ha