Jesus did not claim to be God - here's why!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- If Jesus had been God, one would have expected him to tell us. However, Jesus did not claim to be God - ever.
Trinitarians attempt to find the doctrine of the Trinity in the New Testament, but the truth is that there is no place in the Bible where the Trinity is definitively explained. If Jesus had been God, there are many places where one would have expected him to say so, but he never makes any claim to deity.
According to most Trinitarians, the idea that Jesus is God is the most important element of their beliefs. If this is the case, one would expect the Bible to explain the fact. Yet it is clear that Jesus did not claim to be God. For example, in Matthew 16:15-17 Jesus asks who the disciples say that Jesus is. Peter replies that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. He does not enlarge on this; he does not claim to be God, and yet if he had been God one would have expected him to have done so at this point. After the resurrection Jesus tells his disciples that authority has been delegated to him by God (Matthew 28:18).
Not only that, but when Jesus is accused of making himself equal to God, he denies it. In John 5:18 the Jerusalem authorities accuse Jesus of making himself equal with God; in verses 19-50 Jesus tells them that he is not equal to God, but that he acts as God’s agent, and will continue to do so event to the Judgement. In a similar encounter recorded in John 10, the Judean authorities accuse Jesus of making himself God (v33). Jesus counters this with the explanation that other people are called gods in the Bible, and that he only claims to be the Son of God.
Summary
The video explores whether Jesus claimed to be God during his ministry, examining various titles attributed to him in the Bible and comparing them to those outside of it. It delves into the significance of these titles, such as "Son of God" and "Son of Man," and their origins in Old Testament prophecies. The analysis suggests that while Jesus never explicitly claimed to be God, he claimed to fulfil the roles prophesied for the Messiah. It also discusses interpretations of passages where Jesus uses the phrase "I am," drawing parallels with Old Testament references. Ultimately, it concludes that Jesus' close relationship with God did not make him divine but rather emphasised his role as the Son of God, fulfilling his father's promises.
Q: Did Jesus explicitly claim to be God according to the video?
A: No, Jesus never explicitly claimed to be God according to the video. Instead, he repeatedly referred to himself as the Son of God and the Son of Man, aligning with the titles given to him in over 40 instances in the Bible.
Q: How did Jesus describe himself in the Bible?
A: Jesus described himself using various titles, including Son of God and Son of Man, which are mentioned over 40 and 80 times respectively in the Bible. He also claimed titles such as Messiah and Christ, which have origins in Old Testament prophecies.
Q: What is the significance of the title "Christ" as discussed in the video?
A: In the video, the title "Christ" is explained to be derived from the Greek word "Christos," which translates to "Messiah" in English. This title, appearing over 500 times in the New Testament, refers back to Old Testament prophecies about the anointed one who would fulfil various roles assigned by God, such as being a ruler, protector, and leader.
Q: How does the video interpret Jesus' use of the phrase "I am" in the Gospel of John?
A: The video suggests that while Jesus uses the phrase "I am" in the Gospel of John, it is not necessarily an explicit claim to divinity. Instead, it is interpreted as an implicit claim, drawing parallels to God's statement in Exodus 3:14 to Moses. This interpretation is based on Jesus' repeated use of the present tense of "to be," which others, including non-divine figures like centurions and family members, also use.
Highlights
📜 Jesus is referred to as the "Son of God" over 40 times in the Bible, with additional titles like "Son of Man" used over 80 times, alluding to Old Testament prophecies.
📜 Despite claims outside the Bible, Jesus is never explicitly described or claims the title "God the son" or "I am God" in Scripture.
📜 Jesus' titles have roots in Old Testament prophecies, with over 300 Messianic prophecies outlining the roles the Messiah would fulfil.
📜 Some interpretations suggest Jesus' use of "I am" parallels Old Testament references, implying a connection to God, but caution is advised in interpreting this.
📜 While Jesus acknowledged his close relationship with God, he never explicitly claimed to be divine, consistently attributing his power to God.
📜 Jesus' enemies understood him to claim being the Son of God rather than divine, rejecting the notion of his divinity.
📜 The video encourages viewers to engage with the perspective presented and raise any questions or issues for further discussion.
Jesus said, Only God is good, and then he claimed to be the Good shepherd. The son of man has the same authority that of Jesus.
Imagine, Jesus said "I am GOD". What would the jews at the time understand by that?
They would think Jesus is claiming to be the Father. But Jesus is not the Father. Jesus is the word of God, son of God, son of man, Jesus is GOD. There is no doubt indeed. But if Jesus say this out, no jew at the time would have understood it. Infact even today, you are not understanding the True Triune God. The only for them know he is God himself, but not the Father is exactly what Jesus did.
We are limited in the understanding of the ways and nature of God. Jesus is the son of God and God himself but he not the Father, he not the Holy Spirit.
God is the First and the Last. God is Love. The Father is. The son is, The Holy Spirit is GOD.
When Jesus said "I Am" the hews immediately picked up stones to kill him bc they felt it was blasphemous. Jesus did claim to be God
At Jesus' trial before the Jews, he admitted to being the son of God. And that admission they saw as blasphemy (Matthew 26:63-65). So, when he said 'I am', or 'I am he', he could simply have been claiming to be the son of God. John 5:18 also highlights this as a sufficient reason for them to want to stone him.
Then in John 10:33 they want to stone him for making himself God, in their opinion. But, he has to explain to them that even men were called gods in Psalm 82.
He says: 'If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?' (John 10:35-36).
Here Jesus shows that anyone to whom the word of God came could be called god. And at the same time he claims to be nothing more than the son of God.
@@eddieyoung2104 A lot of mental gymnastics.
men were not called gods according to psalms 82, the "ye" here is a reference to the angels from genesis 6, before the flood
how do we know this??? read supporting verses for context:
psalm 82:1
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods"
Who is the "congregation of the mighy" turn to
1 kings 22:19
"And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left"
Additionally,
observe: ye are gods....but ye shall die like men
you do not say,
ye are cats...but ye shall die like cats
you could say,
ye are dogs...but ye will drown like fishes
two things that aren't the same can't be equated.
this is fourth grade english
but to more important matters, analyze this:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Compare with
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one
The Word was God. The Word is the son
Therefore son = God
Also what Jesus said,
I am alpha, I am Omega,
the beginning and the ending
I AM LORD OF LORD KING OF KINGS
I'll let you pray and think about that one.
@@peteronfireee Psalm 82:6 I believe is speaking about human judges, not immortal angels. Angels, as immortal beings can't die. This is the definition of immortality. Men can be called gods, because the meaning of 'Elohim' is 'a mighty one', or 'mighty ones'. Judges are mighty ones, because they have power over the people. And God does indeed stand and judge these human judges when they abuse their power. Verses 2-4 show the behaviour of men who are allowing oppression rather than judging justly. See also Exodus 22:6 where the Hebrew word used for judges is 'Elohim', just as in Psalm 82.
Not only this, but Jesus' argument in John 10 would lose all its weight, if all he was saying was that angels are called gods. How would that prove anything to his adversaries? If they said 'you make yourself God', why would it be relevant for Jesus to answer, 'angels are called gods'? But, if he says 'men are called gods', then suddenly it's very relevant. Because if men who receive the word of God can be called gods, then how much more can Jesus call himself the son of God?
@@eddieyoung2104
Sorry, but you are not a Christian if you believe you are a god. Might as well become a Mormon or become a New age law of attraction junkie spouting “we are all little gods!!!”
Anyway,
In summary:
It can’t be human, since Jewish elders weren’t given authority over the nations (28). Further, God’s divine council is in the heavens, not on earth.
Other biblical passages where elohim is used to mean something other than God or human rulers:
Job 1.6: the beney elohim came to present themselves before God.
Judges 11:24; 1 Kgs 11:33. Gods of other nations
Deut. 32.17; demons (shedim)
1 Sam. 28.13; the deceased Samuel
Gen. 35.17; angels or Angel of Yahweh.
As for as Exodus 22:28,
“Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people”
“The gods” in Exodus 22:28, can be interpreted either way. If they are just the “judges in Israel,” there would be no point in adding “NOR curse the ruler of thy people.” That would be redundant.
When Jesus says “unto whom the word of God came,” from John 10:35
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken
You can’t limit THAT to judges of Israel exclusively, for “HIS ANGELS he charged with folly” (Job 4:18; Psalm 82:6-7)
In other words, Gods Word (and therefore judgment) applies to humans AND angels.
As for angels dying like men, no, they are spiritual beings and can’t physically die, however, God is basically saying,
“Your mortality is conditional. Your status (as a son of the Most High) does not protect you. Just because you are a son of God does mean you cannot die like a man.”
In John 10:34, Jesus quotes Psalm 82. He does so in response to the Pharisees, who are angry with him for claiming to be the Son of God. Jesus quotes Psalm 82 in order to show that he has a right to be called the Son of God.
He does this by pointing to his superiority to all principalities and powers, which are called gods.
Jesus says the word of God came to these ‘gods’ in Psalm 82 when God rebuked them. If these beings are called gods, even though they are clearly inferior to God, and the word of God came to them, then Jesus has a right to be called the Son of God, for he is the word of God made flesh. He is equal to God, for he was “in the beginning with God,” and “all things were made by him,” including these gods. The word of God came to these gods, but Jesus Christ is the Word of God, clearly superior to these gods.
Jesus thereby proves that the Pharisees have no grounds to criticize him for claiming to be the son of God, for they cannot criticize God himself for calling fallen angels gods
Sorry, but you are not a Christian if you believe you are a god. Might as well become a Mormon or become a New age law of attraction junkie spouting “we are all little gods!!!”
Anyway,
In summary:
It can’t be human, since human judges weren’t given authority over the nations. Judges were military leaders who God chose to help the Israelites during times of danger, but they did not have authority over the entire nation
Further, God’s divine council is in the heavens, not on earth:
Looking at the context of Psalms 82, YOU CANNOT DENY THAT:
--these are heavenly beings
--they partake as God's divine council
--takes place in heaven
YOU CANNOT DENY THIS. if you say these are humans, you need to check yourself into a psych ward.
Other biblical passages where elohim is used to mean something other than God or human rulers:
Job 1.6: the beney elohim came to present themselves before God.
Judges 11:24; 1 Kgs 11:33. Gods of other nations
Deut. 32.17; demons (shedim)
1 Sam. 28.13; the deceased Samuel
Gen. 35.17; angels or Angel of Yahweh.
As for as Exodus 22:28,
“Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people”
“The gods” in Exodus 22:28, can be interpreted either way. If they are just the “judges in Israel,” there would be no point in adding “NOR curse the ruler of thy people.”
When Jesus says “unto whom the word of God came,” from John 10:35:
"If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken"
You can’t limit THAT to judges of Israel exclusively, for “HIS ANGELS he charged with folly” (Job 4:18; Psalm 82:6-7) In other words, Gods Word (and therefore judgment) applies to humans AND angels.
As for angels dying like men, no, they are spiritual beings and can’t physically die, however, God is basically saying,
“Your mortality is conditional. Your status (as a son of the Most High) does not protect you. Just because you are a son of God does mean you cannot die like a man.”
In John 10:34, Jesus quotes Psalm 82. He does so in response to the Pharisees, who are angry with him for claiming to be the Son of God. Jesus quotes Psalm 82 in order to show that he has a right to be called the Son of God.
He does this by pointing to his superiority to all principalities and powers, which are called gods.
Jesus says the word of God came to these ‘gods’ in Psalm 82 when God rebuked them. If these beings are called gods, even though they are clearly inferior to God, and the word of God came to them, then Jesus has a right to be called the Son of God, for he is the word of God made flesh. He is equal to God, for he was “in the beginning with God,” and “all things were made by him,” including these gods. The word of God came to these gods, but Jesus Christ is the Word of God, clearly superior to these gods.
Jesus thereby proves that the Pharisees have no grounds to criticize him for claiming to be the son of God, for they cannot criticize God himself for calling fallen angels gods
John 14:8-9
Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, *“Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?*
But, Jesus was not the same as the Father. God is the Father, and Jesus is his son. Two separate beings. The point Jesus is making is that people could see what the Father was like, by looking at his son. Jesus displayed his father's characteristics. Therefore they didn't need to actually see the Father to know what he was like, because Jesus had sufficiently demonstrated it.
@@eddieyoung2104
Isaiah 9:6
*For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:* and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, *The mighty God, The everlasting Father,* The Prince of Peace.
The Son is a manifestation of God the Father. None of God's sons could fulfill righteousness to bring God's will into being. So, God became flesh and became one of us. God has no beginning and no end but just simply IS.
I used to think the way you do and I understand where you're coming from Brother. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one and they are all God. That sounds altogether confusing and contradictory but it's not.
God is perfect and is exactly what we, his creations, need.
1) We need God to be too big to see and depict...someone beyond our abilities to assess and comprehend. *That is God the Father.*
2) We need God to be someone we can see, who is accessible, touchable and relatable. *That is God the Son.*
3) On whatsoever task we are sent and wherever we journey throughout eternity, we need God's direction and enlightenment. *That is God the Spirit.*
When this rebellion is over and things are back in order, we will be secure, loved and full of love. We will see that God only wanted to love us and supply us with everything we need...and in incomprehensible abundance.
@@eddieyoung2104 Exactly! Jesus is not the same as the Father. There is one GOD in three persons. Who are you? who am I to say?
The God who created me is telling me he is One being in three persons.
So you want me to say,
" No God! You can't be three persons in one God. If you are three persons in One being it doesn't make sense to me. "
Literally, Who am I to say so?
Seriously, who are you??? why should anyone care what you are saying?
The disciples of Jesus believed he is God. Thomas says "My LORD and My GOD". The early church fathers believed Jesus is God.
So Who are you? You are demonic! I pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you and show you the true God of the Bible.
@@Sohanjs
So why did the one who believes like you have to delete/hide my last comment? The Atheist channels do that when I give them a reply they can't tolerate. The MSM hides any news that doesn't support their narrative. We live in a generation of babies who are certain that they have the genuine spark of truth and therefore must refuse all other input.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires.
@@Sohanjs I get you are frustrated with my viewpoint. But, perhaps you go too far by calling me demonic. The Bible shows us a better way. In Acts 17:11 we have the example of the Bereans: 'These were more noble...in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so'. Therefore let's not jump the gun, but have a look at scripture before writing someone off.
I myself have searched the scriptures and found no description of one God in three persons. I do find instead, one God who is the creator, and that one God has had a human son, who is now immortal in heaven. Have a look how God is described in Acts 17:24, and then compare with verse 31.
So, if I'm being true to God, I have to reject a manmade idea of him, and accept what he tells me about himself in his word. But, thanks for praying for me. I also will pray for you.
Muslims believe that Jesus is neither God nor son of God but a God chosen prophet, who God gave many miracles like healing the sicks, making the dead alive etc.
Like Noah, Abraham, Moses, Issac, Ishmael, Jacob and last prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them all), Jesus is just the prophet.
And also Muslims believe that Jesus is alive and will return near Judgment day.
This is what Quran say about Jesus.
"He will make him a messenger to the Children of Israel. He will say: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I will make the shape of a bird out of clay for you and then breathe into it and, by God’s leave, it will become a living bird. And by God’s leave I will heal the blind and the leper and bring the dead to life. I will tell you what you eat and what you store up in your homes. Surely in this there is a sign for you, if you are believers."
Quran (3:49)
Jesus DID CLAIM TO BE God, He says "I am,"
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." John 8:58-59
If Jesus didnt claim to be God, why are they picking up stones and throw them??? This type of thing was only done when someone was considered to be blaspheming God. In this case, claiming to be God himself (Lev 24:16)
How did you guys miss this one??? Is this some kind of Jehovah's witness channel???
He said he was the Son of God, not God...
@@RNWFoster so applying your logic to the verse above, he was the Son of God before Abraham? I thought his genealogy came after Abraham and David....
How do you reconcile comparing the above verse with the one in exodus:
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you"
Do you know what "I AM THAT I AM" אָהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, pronounced Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh, means in Hebrew???
Combining verses of the old testament with new, we get:
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the ending,
I AM THAT I AM ,
I am Jehovah,
KING OF KINGS,
LORD OF LORDS,
How do you reconcile the above???
I'll let you pray and think about that one.
As far as the trinity (besides 1 john 5:7), it's (the idea) all over the bible...
Explain why,
Jesus says he's the "final judge" even though God says He's the "final judge".
Jesus says "he raises the dead at the resurrection" when God says "He raises the dead at the resurrection."
Explain why,
Jesus calls himself
--the Lord of Sabbath,
--the I AM of Exodus,
--greater than God's temple
Explain why
Jesus claims a unique relationship with the Father
That He can answer prayers and be present with his followers
That He claims all authority on Heaven and Earth
He Claims all these thing, but Jesus also prays to the Father AND He claims to be from the Father.
Why would Jesus make claims that only God can make, yet also be drawing attention to God as the father?
John 14:16, after going to the Father, together Jesus and the Father sends the Holy Spirit. Speaking of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit was with the Father, at creation (Gen 1:1-2) it mentions God and the spirit of God hovering over the face of the waters.
Psalms 104:30 says the spirit creates the universe,
1 Cor says the spirit is omniscient
psalms 139 says the spirit is omnipresent
hebrews 9 says the spirit is eternal
These are divine attributes, yet the spirit is distinct from the father, and the son
zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." How can an immaterial God be "pierced" unless He takes on a body???
Hmmm......
Isaiah 48:16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me." Yahweh is speaking and He says the "Lord God" and "His spirit" has sent "Him"???
How can God be sent by God and the spirit of God?
Trinity is everywhere
I found the Trinity plausible once but I researched more and realised it's fake.
I didn't realise folk used it literally to try to explain how Jesus could be God.
Just the it meant a triune relationship of divinity.
Obviously God can only be one without seperation and not any form or being.
@@RNWFoster cool story but that doesn't disprove what i shared.
Here I'll give you another one:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one 1 John 5:7
compare that with:
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, matthew 28:19
compare that with:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3
I'll let you pray and think about that one
@@peteronfireee The disciples of Jesus believed he is God. Thomas says "My LORD and My GOD". The early church fathers believed Jesus is God.
You have the truth my Brother! May Lord Jesus, Bless you.
And Yes! Jesus blesses us, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, because he is given the authority, because he is Worthy.
Imagine, if Jesus said "I am GOD". What would the jews at the time understand by that?
They would think Jesus is claiming to be the Father. But Jesus is not the Father.
Jesus had to be very carful, so we would know he is God, but not the father himself, yet one with the Father.
@@Sohanjs i'm adding your insight into my brain....common sense at its finest.
God bless!!!!
Jesus did claim He was God.
No.