*Bought for my son. We have had one for years, works great. Can cook indirect and smoke meat. Done chicken, ribs, turkey, and the regular **MyBest.Kitchen** hot dogs and sausages. Excellent grill*
Another good feature is that the master touch is 3-4 inches taller than the lower model Weber grills which many may like, especially if you are a taller person. Also the master touch top rack is thicker and heavier than the lower models. Great review, thanks!
Agree 100 percent. I love the extra height. And the heavier gauge rack is far superior. At one point I was thinking the Premium was the way to go, but those two factors make the Master Touch the better grill. I think it's worth the extra money.
I bought the master touch myself. I absolutely love it. I bought the vortex for the center to make different chicken dishes. I also bought the slow and sear for lower temp smoking applications. I have a pellet smoker but the Weber slow and sear just taste better. When you combine the charcoal and chunk wood it just has a better flavor. Good video.
I've been firing mine up pretty much every day during the lockdown. The lid holder is definitely not a deal breaker, it's just not as good as it could be. For instance, when I'm pouring my coals from the chimney. Other than that, it's pretty much the perfect grill.
Love my Weber Master Touch. - before I bought it, I thought the open lid position mounted in the lid bale would bother me. It doesn’t. -the P vents provide amazing low temp control. -the deciding factor prompting my Master Touch purchase over the Original and the Original Premium was the additional overall height of the Master Touch. Worth ever penny.
I too love the height. It's just nicer to have that taller stance. Also love the P vents. Didn't realize they were different when I first bought the grill, but now I really appreciate them. Also love the heavier gauge of the grates. The lid bale I still am not a fan of. Not a deal breaker by any stretch, just not as good as it could be.
Good break down. So about that lid. I believe if you stand facing the lid when it is up you will find it easier to cook. It opens up better. I know you shouldn't have to do this but it does work. The thermometer placement doesn't matter all that much because honestly the webber is so well designed that you have a very good even temperature throughout the kettle. Now about that table. There are some really great mods making tables for the kettle. I suggest checking out Justin's Baby back Maniac episode on this subject. For your next episode if you don't already have one get a webber chimney starter. And while on the subject of tables,consider getting a steel Dutch oven table. They are made so you can put charcoal or brickets directly on the table and not hurting anything. Grill on the webber and bake a pie or whatever in a camp Dutch oven and have a place to start all your charcoal and brickets. Ahhh, its always fun helping others spend their money. Good luck.
@@GallaghersGrub here's another channel to check out on building a kettle table. Dash at Ugly Drum Smoker did a very nice stainless steel table conversion with his kettle. And if you wat h Justin's mod he tells folks where they can get some clips that were made specifically for the webber kettle mounts. I'm sure that your going to find a great way to do this but I thought I'd give a helping hand. Turkey day is not to far off. Hmmm smoked Turkey. 🦃🦃🦃
Warming rack is awesome for different grilling techniques ( indirect heat) and also when the grill is used as a smoker it gives you additional way to add more meat.
On the lid not going a full 90 degrees: my guess is the lawyers stepped in here. The Performer and 26” Kettle grills are heavier (and wider in the Performers case) and can tolerate that little bit of extra weight just off of center. They reduced their liability by keeping it just a tad less prone to toppling.
I hadn't thought of that but it sounds right to me. I guess the grill would be sturdier at 90 degrees if the lid bail were on the side with the stationary leg. But then the handle would become an issue. Thanks for the great comment.
That's interesting. I recently picked up a 2008 Gen 2 Performer and the lid bale has the same issue where the lid is not allowed to open 90 degrees. Interestingly, the current gen Performer has an updated lid bale that does allow the lid to open fully. I guess they changed it on the Performer because stability isn't an issue with the larger frame.
I recently purchased a new 22” Weber Performer. This is the one with the folding side table. It was $289 but I think we’ll worth it. The cart really adds additional stability over the 3 leg design.
struggling to understand why the angle of the lid in this design is a problem. you can access the entire grate to move the food. my performer from 2003 is at that angle, and its never been a problem.
No need for insults, gentlemen had the courage to make a video and include his opinion. Design flaw doesn’t equal slow. Keep on grilling and god bless America 🇺🇸
You can buy a larger gapped replacement lid holder for the performer that will work. Lid then stands straight up vertically. Fits the existing holes, etc.
I’m considering getting a kettle, ive never used one before. I love my 1200 and I have a Weber spirit. I would probably mainly still use gas for quickness but maybe a kettle on the weekends. Do you think the master touch is really worth it or would the regular one with maybe a temp gage installed be about the same. I found a regular one new in box online for 50 bucks so it’s hard to pass up but then again the master touch you said has a lot better quality grates
Glad to see ya back, bud! The Weber kettle is a classic, I think it's the best straight-ahead charcoal grill out there. The only thing Weber can really do with it is add bells & whistles because they really can't improve the design. It regulates heat very well, and can maintain a steady temperature for a long time. I've smoked pork shoulder on mine, it's that consistent. Great job, thanks for re-starting the videos!
Sorry I missed this comment. The kettle is going strong. Been using it almost non-stop. New vid in the works will be uploaded this Wed or Thurs. Thanks for watching Ryan!
I decided to buy the Master Touch yesterday. I got it up to 600 F I grilled a bunch of whole rainbow trout and veggies. Even though it is sourced in China, this grill worked better than expected. I recommend buying it for the 219 or less. You are going to need another 100 or 200 in accessories as well.
@@GallaghersGrub IMO it has two major things going for it. It is more stable and taller than the 165 version. And the grates are higher quality. After having two grilling sessions on it, I'm hooked and happy with my purchase.
Just picked one up at Lowe's for $96 on clearance I only took out the grill grate and warming rack put them on my performer Deluxe the master Touch also has a different design on the bottom vent for low and slow I'll keep the rest of the grill and put it in my collection I think this makes 18
Weber kettle was always the essential getting away on weekends grill while using gas at home. Gas grill rusted out and I am going back to the classic weber kettle as our everyday grill. Pretty excited!
jrassa04 you won’t regret it, I have been cooking on a 35$ charcoal grill from big lots for the past 3 years and just got this baby today.. the flavor from charcoal puts gas grills to shame.. happy grilling!!
Pittsburgh Mike one of the main reasons is we have left our old weber kettle outside the hunting shack uncovered for over a decade and doesnt show signs of wear and cooks great every time. Have even smoked great ribs on there too. Fun to keep temp controlled just right woth charcoal volume and vents. I got 6 years out of my cheapo gas grill, but never really enjoyed cooking on it like a weber charcol. Always waiting to control the next flare up.
I think the vent is intended to be placed on the opposite side to the food to facilitate convection of hot air, while the thermometer is placed above the food in this setup.
I have the Weber Performer. I really like the side table. I didn't get the regular kettle because, like you said, the lid not opening straight up was annoying. I have the sear grate for the middle and it works really well. But I don't use it much now because I picked up a set of Craycort cast iron grates with a few accessories. And they work really well. Pricey though but should last a lifetime. I use the warming rack for small cuts of meat mostly when I'm doing a low and slow cook. It looks useless but I like it. Had to hunt it down as it didn't come with the Performer for some reason.
Weber have an updated lid holder for the Master Touch and standard Kettle. Part #8411. My dad got one for his MT and it works great and the lid slides back all the way. Edit: Almost forgot, he also has the BBQ dragon hook on table and it too has worked really well. Not big enough to hold a big tray of ribs but will easily hold a plate of burgers or some seasoning bottles and has some more hooks for accessories.
I went for the Performer for the side table, The charcoal bin and the gas assist for getting the coals going . I'm not very handy so the thought of building a better table never crossed my mind! lol. Looks like you have already gotten some good use out of the kettle look forward to those videos!
I have the most downscale 22 inch Weber kettle, without the ash collector (it's just a tray to catch ash underneath the bottom vent). The Master Touch is worth it. The problem is even the base model seems to last forever, even with minimal care and much abuse. I plan to upgrade when it dies. But it won't die!
I love my master-touch, but am frustrated with a few things - namely the lid bail and the lack of availability of the head-shield/charcoal ring found in the Euro MT-Premium models. The saving grace for the lid bail is that you can replace it with the one for the Performer and get the same 90-degree tilt. The replacement is about $30.
I will look into the replacement lid bail as I'm not crazy about the stock one either. Still love the Master Touch though. The slightly taller stance is especially nice.
@@GallaghersGrub I don't hate the bail - just the fact that it wasn't the new design. The taller stance is very nice and my back loves me for it. Check for part #65188 to find the bail assembly.
All the bells and whistles are nice but ive always used the most basic 22in weber for anything. Get yourself a $5 oven thermometer and charcoal baskets about $20. Which you dont really need the baskets even either but they're more convenient.
Nice review of your Weber kettle I have the premium Weber kettle I have some of the features yours have except the grill grate and the lid holder. I agree that there should be two thermometers on the lid I can get the same grill top as yours and been thinking about because I like the sear great for the steaks
Nice review, bro ... as i mentioned in last video‘s comments, I own the smaller version of that kettle. One thing for sure, if you place the lid in its holder, it doesn’t have that angle than yours does. Strange. Nevertheless this grill gives you a huge variety of methods to grill your food. My favorite is chicken, like beer can chicken. I wish you all the best and lots of fun with it Dietrich from Germany Sent best regards
@@GallaghersGrub I am originally from The Bronx NY had no idea what this way of cooking was all about till i did my due diligence it's definitely the way to go.
@@DanielGonzalez-jz3og I like charcoal any time I have the time for the flavor and the fun of cooking over live fire. But I still keep a gas grill on hand for quick cooks, when it's raining, convenience, etc.
Great video. I have the basic and it has performed well. Try cooking your Thanksgiving day turkey. - amazing results over the offset method! Best wishes for a great adventure in grilling! Cheers!
Could be that the premium is the better deal. I haven't used many of the grate accessories yet, but I did try the cast iron sear grate and I wasn't that impressed. As far as size, I actually prefer the 22-inch to the 26-inch, but I'm usually not cooking for a ton of people. Thanks for watching, instantsiv
Here's one on eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/Weber-22-1-2-26-1-2-Charcoal-Kettle-Grill-Stainless-Top-Warming-Rack/123770187912?hash=item1cd1473088:g:ip4AAOSwQKlc3ZGA
It's a great grill and video. It's dangerous to cook with charcoal on a deck that's connected to your home. At a minimum, please consider putting a large, flame proof grill mat underneath.
Is it possible that the angle of lid cover was purposefully done that way to be used in conjunction with the "heating rack". Perhaps the angle was meant to keep in a bit of heat, in the event you had to add meat/charcoal?
I'm not sure. Another person commented that it might be to prevent the wind from knocking the grill over. This is the only reason I can see as to why they would redesign it on the Performer but not on the stand-alone kettles.
These have increased in price significantly. The premium is now $219 and the master touch is $280 at Home Depot. I just bought a Master Touch second hand for $140.
They aren’t taking advantage of inflation. They are an American company using American materials and paying American workers. I would gladly pay obviously 290 for a master touch as I did to support all of that and get a 10 year warranty. It’s the cost of doing business and surviving in America
@@jacobauld565 The Weber Spirit and Genesis II are entirely made in China. Most of their other grills are made from parts sourced from around the world.
I just saw $450 for a Master at Ace Hardware. Maybe 100 bucks worth of materials to make one. I got my premium for under 200 bucks so I don't see where the other 250 is in the Masters.
I have the Premium kettle and I'm not convinced the Master Touch is worth the additional $50. The only practical add-on between the two is the lid holder and I have no problem hanging the lid on the side on my Premium. In fact, I might be annoyed at the slanted lid over the grill. The Performer is definitely not worth the money in my opinion.
After I bought the Master Touch, I had a little buyer's remorse thinking I should have just gone with the Premium. A year later and I'm very happy I went with the MT. It stands a little taller than the Premium, and I really like that. The grates are also heavier duty. The plastic on the top vent is a nice touch, and the included charcoal baskets are helpful. So far, I've only purchased the searing grate for the Gourmet BBQ system. I wasn't that impressed, but we'll see if the other accessories are better. Cooking with Ry made a comparison video of the two grills here: th-cam.com/video/_1FkQRtbblw/w-d-xo.html
City Escape Griller . I think the extras are definitely nice and for someone who’s going to buy them anyway they should get the Master Touch. I only want the slow n sear and don’t care much for the other extras. Anyway, nice review and my original comment was in no way an attack on you or critiquing your video. Thanks for the video and the reply! Happy grilling!
City Escape Griller Great video! I was thinking to buy one of the Master Touch Premium with some additional features - like smoking setup and hinged lid but still couldn't find decent review like this one. Do you have any thoughts about MT Premium 2019?
I believe Pitmaster X did an unboxing and review on his TH-cam channel. Personally, I'm not sold on the hinged lid, but I really don't know because I don't believe that model is available here in the U.S.
I fricken love mine. But I’ve come from a base model that I picked up on the side of the road😮. The lid opener or holder, does yours touch the painted part of the lid?? I just worried because it so shiny and new I don’t want the paint to wear of on the ring.
I think all 22" Weber Kettles are great. The one with the smaller table gets excellent reviews. I have not personally owned one, but if that's your budget or you don't have room for the bigger table, then pull the trigger and save the $ for other gear like a rotisserie. There's always a chance for "buyer's remorse" thinking you should've gotten the one with the bigger table, but that's life...
I was wondering if you could just spin the lid around till the thermometer is above the food and wait a bit just to take a reading then spin it back around to where it normally sits, if that would work till you add a thermometer on the food side?
Ordered this recently over my current Weber, which is basically the same but doesn't have the plastic handle on the top vents, nor the lid holder or master touch grate. I also thought their newer models held the lid lower. Might just keep using my old lid with the hook instead... :S Does the lid holder come attached already in the box? Thanks for the video.
The lid holder has to be attached. I don't know if the Master Touch is a better value than the Premium. But they are definitely both a step up from the basic model.
@@GallaghersGrub Thanks. It's the Premium I have now. One of the bottom sliding scraper arms is bending up a bit (my fault for getting a piece of chunk charcoal caught in it) and it's rusting up a bit where the bottom vent arm handle is connected. Only a few years old, but I leave it out and use it a lot year round, winter and summer. Maybe I should have just gotten another Premium one. Hmm...
@@WR3ND Hard to say if the Master Touch is worth the extra $, but maybe you'll really like the gourmet system. In any case, Weber Kettles are the best and you really can't go wrong.
@@GallaghersGrub Yeah, they make great grills. I was just checking on Amazon a little bit ago here, and it looks like they sell a replacement kit for the "one-touch cleaning system," so I'll give that a try and see if I can replace my bent and rusting one. Cheers.
@@GallaghersGrub Ended up ordering the one touch system replacement, but the old one is rusted solid and I ended up bending the bottom of the kettle basin where it attaches while trying to turn the handle to unseat the keying ridge on it. So, I ordered another Premium (went with a crimson one this time) and will replace the one touch system sooner as needed on it before it gets too rusty. Live and learn. Cheers.
Could? Yes. Should? No. Try it? Do it and you will meet new neighhbours... 👹👹👹 but see your insurance cover for fire and bbq... an electric bbq would be fine...
Nice. I still haven't used my warming rack. I also own a basic kettle (with the ash tray) that I bought in 2006. It's at my ex-wife's house now and still works perfect. Although I did replace the grate with one that has hinges a few years back.
I red below, dont use in balcony. I bought a Spirit 2 E310 but failed. I made 3 barbecues and stoped. In a first floor with a 40m2 and open... could i use this one? The perfóremer has the advantage that you can light charcoal with gas...
@@GallaghersGrub pretty much every video I have seen with any kettle grill unless they have added some type of gasket leaks. I just bought the Weber master I haven't put it together yet but I figure it will probably leak as well. Keep up the great videos 👍
I went to order the master touch 22" and started reading reviews was lots of complaints about the metal being thinner then used to be. And legs not made as good. Several people said lid didnt get a seal anymore cause was much lighter. Wanting to make a good purchase decision. Thoughts?
I have an old Weber Kettle 22" from 2006. The base model. I see no difference in the weight of the metal. I've never noticed any Weber Kettle to seal in the smoke. The lid seems to be the same and the legs have always been a bit flimsy. The legs on my Master Touch are very tight and I doubt they will fall out as they have in past kettles I've owned. The grates on the Master Touch are a much heavier grade than the premium or base. Definitely a great purchase. No regrets at all.
@@GallaghersGrub yeah they could have designed a better cover stand, gave an extra gourmet accessory for the grill or a small table, anything other than a warming rack. The only time I have ever used or seen the use of a warming rack is when the food is about to get burned and you got no other place to put your food on :)
Weber designers miss a ton of things. It seems like they don’t ever use their products?? The lid, the air venting system, the thermometer, no slot for a proper thermometer….it’s crazy. Haven’t they heard of TH-cam?
The heat + the action of the one-touch system constantly abrading the vent-edge enamel would lead to some flaking and then eventual rust. Normal and not an issue in weber kettles.
I've owned the original for many years. It's a great grill and all you really need. That said, the taller stance, the ash catcher and the heavier gauge grates of the Master Touch are pretty sweet.
@@GallaghersGrub Parts are sourced/made in China and Weber assembles the product here in the states. This has turned many people off of a company that used to be better. However, for the price, Weber is still has value. Some people just don't want China to profit compared to America.
This is a total ripped off, we bought it today and right after assembling it, I wanna return it, the design is nothing special, it's just the same as other ordinary grill, for the price of 219$? We should have get the ordinary one! After watching this review I realize there is nothing but a piece of junk, imagine using only the middle of the grill? It was so small! And they said it as designed so u can cook something in the middle? Common! We bought this to grill! Weber should give our money back! .now! How can I reassemble this and return? I guess u would not be able to do that and just use this ordinary nothing special grill!!!
*Bought for my son. We have had one for years, works great. Can cook indirect and smoke meat. Done chicken, ribs, turkey, and the regular **MyBest.Kitchen** hot dogs and sausages. Excellent grill*
Highly recommend a Weber Kettle. To me, it's just more fun to cook with charcoal.
Another good feature is that the master touch is 3-4 inches taller than the lower model Weber grills which many may like, especially if you are a taller person. Also the master touch top rack is thicker and heavier than the lower models. Great review, thanks!
Agree 100 percent. I love the extra height. And the heavier gauge rack is far superior. At one point I was thinking the Premium was the way to go, but those two factors make the Master Touch the better grill. I think it's worth the extra money.
I bought the master touch myself. I absolutely love it. I bought the vortex for the center to make different chicken dishes. I also bought the slow and sear for lower temp smoking applications. I have a pellet smoker but the Weber slow and sear just taste better. When you combine the charcoal and chunk wood it just has a better flavor. Good video.
Thanks Todd. I love the Master touch as well. I like the height and the heavy gauge grates in particular. Cheers!
This grill will be around for my granddaughter to be use one day. Buy Weber, buy once.
I have a 4 year old Master Touch. Cook at least once a week. Love it. Still like new and hardly do any cleaning or maintenance
I've been firing mine up pretty much every day during the lockdown. The lid holder is definitely not a deal breaker, it's just not as good as it could be. For instance, when I'm pouring my coals from the chimney. Other than that, it's pretty much the perfect grill.
Sounds disgusting. Enjoy the cancer coming soon.
@@MrSupernova111 Wow, you must get lots of repeat invitations to parties.
Horse Nuts . Its true.
Love my Weber Master Touch.
- before I bought it, I thought the open lid position mounted in the lid bale would bother me. It doesn’t.
-the P vents provide amazing low temp control.
-the deciding factor prompting my Master Touch purchase over the Original and the Original Premium was the additional overall height of the Master Touch.
Worth ever penny.
I too love the height. It's just nicer to have that taller stance. Also love the P vents. Didn't realize they were different when I first bought the grill, but now I really appreciate them. Also love the heavier gauge of the grates.
The lid bale I still am not a fan of. Not a deal breaker by any stretch, just not as good as it could be.
Good break down. So about that lid. I believe if you stand facing the lid when it is up you will find it easier to cook. It opens up better. I know you shouldn't have to do this but it does work. The thermometer placement doesn't matter all that much because honestly the webber is so well designed that you have a very good even temperature throughout the kettle. Now about that table. There are some really great mods making tables for the kettle. I suggest checking out Justin's Baby back Maniac episode on this subject. For your next episode if you don't already have one get a webber chimney starter. And while on the subject of tables,consider getting a steel Dutch oven table. They are made so you can put charcoal or brickets directly on the table and not hurting anything. Grill on the webber and bake a pie or whatever in a camp Dutch oven and have a place to start all your charcoal and brickets. Ahhh, its always fun helping others spend their money. Good luck.
Thanks Victor. I've got a Weber chimney. Would definitely love a steel table. It's on the list!
@@GallaghersGrub here's another channel to check out on building a kettle table. Dash at Ugly Drum Smoker did a very nice stainless steel table conversion with his kettle. And if you wat h Justin's mod he tells folks where they can get some clips that were made specifically for the webber kettle mounts. I'm sure that your going to find a great way to do this but I thought I'd give a helping hand. Turkey day is not to far off. Hmmm smoked Turkey. 🦃🦃🦃
Warming rack is awesome for different grilling techniques ( indirect heat) and also when the grill is used as a smoker it gives you additional way to add more meat.
Still haven't used my warming rack. Thanks for the suggestions, maybe I'll actually give it a go this week.
Never knew i should place the lid air vents over the food. It makes a difference to the cooking. Thank you
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching. Cheers Scott!
On the lid not going a full 90 degrees: my guess is the lawyers stepped in here. The Performer and 26” Kettle grills are heavier (and wider in the Performers case) and can tolerate that little bit of extra weight just off of center. They reduced their liability by keeping it just a tad less prone to toppling.
I hadn't thought of that but it sounds right to me. I guess the grill would be sturdier at 90 degrees if the lid bail were on the side with the stationary leg. But then the handle would become an issue. Thanks for the great comment.
That's interesting. I recently picked up a 2008 Gen 2 Performer and the lid bale has the same issue where the lid is not allowed to open 90 degrees. Interestingly, the current gen Performer has an updated lid bale that does allow the lid to open fully. I guess they changed it on the Performer because stability isn't an issue with the larger frame.
I recently purchased a new 22” Weber Performer. This is the one with the folding side table. It was $289 but I think we’ll worth it. The cart really adds additional stability over the 3 leg design.
You made a great choice. I had considered that model, but opted for the Keter Unity table instead. Cheers Michael!
Got mine today can't wait to put it together
I hope you're loving your new kettle. Cheers man!
struggling to understand why the angle of the lid in this design is a problem. you can access the entire grate to move the food. my performer from 2003 is at that angle, and its never been a problem.
Your struggling because most slow people... struggle
@@ttacx😂😂 gold
No need for insults, gentlemen had the courage to make a video and include his opinion. Design flaw doesn’t equal slow. Keep on grilling and god bless America 🇺🇸
You can buy a larger gapped replacement lid holder for the performer that will work. Lid then stands straight up vertically. Fits the existing holes, etc.
I think I may make that upgrade. Thanks for the tip. Cheers!
thanks for the nice concise honest review! 10/10
Appreciate the kind words Toto Ro. Thanks for watching.
I agree that’s a total design flaw. I have the Basic one Touch and couldn’t be happier. I don’t need all the accessories, I make my own
I bought the basic kettle for $90 in 2006 when I lived in Atlanta. I love that grill.
City Escape Griller I just put 45lbs of total meaton my 22 inch with a mod
@@meatcranium4280 That's a lot of meat dude. I'll be checking your vids for ideas I can steal. Lol!
I’m considering getting a kettle, ive never used one before. I love my 1200 and I have a Weber spirit. I would probably mainly still use gas for quickness but maybe a kettle on the weekends. Do you think the master touch is really worth it or would the regular one with maybe a temp gage installed be about the same. I found a regular one new in box online for 50 bucks so it’s hard to pass up but then again the master touch you said has a lot better quality grates
Glad to see ya back, bud! The Weber kettle is a classic, I think it's the best straight-ahead charcoal grill out there. The only thing Weber can really do with it is add bells & whistles because they really can't improve the design. It regulates heat very well, and can maintain a steady temperature for a long time. I've smoked pork shoulder on mine, it's that consistent. Great job, thanks for re-starting the videos!
Sorry I missed this comment. The kettle is going strong. Been using it almost non-stop. New vid in the works will be uploaded this Wed or Thurs. Thanks for watching Ryan!
i got the Master Touch last week after weeks of research . To me it was the best value for the money
I agree. It's an excellent grill.
Love it! Weber makes fantastic grills. Nice review
Thanks for watching. I love my Q and my kettle. Cheers!
I decided to buy the Master Touch yesterday.
I got it up to 600 F
I grilled a bunch of whole rainbow trout and veggies.
Even though it is sourced in China, this grill worked better than expected.
I recommend buying it for the 219 or less.
You are going to need another 100 or 200 in accessories as well.
Yes, it's worth the price, but you need a chimney, a lighter, charcoal, grill scraper, tongs...
@@GallaghersGrub IMO it has two major things going for it. It is more stable and taller than the 165 version. And the grates are higher quality. After having two grilling sessions on it, I'm hooked and happy with my purchase.
@@fluphenazine1879 Agree. I really like that it's a little taller. And the grates are very good quality.
Just picked one up at Lowe's for $96 on clearance I only took out the grill grate and warming rack put them on my performer Deluxe the master Touch also has a different design on the bottom vent for low and slow I'll keep the rest of the grill and put it in my collection I think this makes 18
That's an excellent deal!
Wow!!
got my master touch premium for $327.00 canadian .last spring and i love it . all around versatility ! A++
I love my Master Touch as well. I particularly like the taller height and heavier gauge of the grates. Cheers George!
Weber kettle was always the essential getting away on weekends grill while using gas at home. Gas grill rusted out and I am going back to the classic weber kettle as our everyday grill. Pretty excited!
jrassa04 you won’t regret it, I have been cooking on a 35$ charcoal grill from big lots for the past 3 years and just got this baby today.. the flavor from charcoal puts gas grills to shame.. happy grilling!!
Pittsburgh Mike one of the main reasons is we have left our old weber kettle outside the hunting shack uncovered for over a decade and doesnt show signs of wear and cooks great every time. Have even smoked great ribs on there too. Fun to keep temp controlled just right woth charcoal volume and vents. I got 6 years out of my cheapo gas grill, but never really enjoyed cooking on it like a weber charcol. Always waiting to control the next flare up.
Worth it, 100%
The perfect size.
Agree completely. I like that the Master Touch has a slightly taller stature than the original and premium versions.
I think the vent is intended to be placed on the opposite side to the food to facilitate convection of hot air, while the thermometer is placed above the food in this setup.
If the vent is over the charcoal the smoke goes straight up.
I would use the warmer for bbquing at the beach this 4th of July. Thanks so much for the review
Bbqing at the beach sounds perfect. Cheers Ben!
I have the Weber Performer. I really like the side table. I didn't get the regular kettle because, like you said, the lid not opening straight up was annoying.
I have the sear grate for the middle and it works really well. But I don't use it much now because I picked up a set of Craycort cast iron grates with a few accessories. And they work really well. Pricey though but should last a lifetime.
I use the warming rack for small cuts of meat mostly when I'm doing a low and slow cook. It looks useless but I like it. Had to hunt it down as it didn't come with the Performer for some reason.
Maybe I need to start using my warming rack, apparently it's an exclusive. Lol!
Just bought a Master Touch !! The main reason was the center of the grate coming off so I can use a vortex for wings!!
The Master Touch is the way to go. I think the taller size and the added features makes it worth the extra $. 100%
Master Touch is awesome!!
It is a great grill. I just picked up a 26-inch kettle, and will have a video comparing that to the master touch in the coming week. Stay tuned.
I just got one of those bad boys for $109 from Lowe's. Couldn't pass it up. So excited to fire it up this weekend.
$109 for the Master Touch or the Original?
Weber have an updated lid holder for the Master Touch and standard Kettle. Part #8411. My dad got one for his MT and it works great and the lid slides back all the way.
Edit: Almost forgot, he also has the BBQ dragon hook on table and it too has worked really well. Not big enough to hold a big tray of ribs but will easily hold a plate of burgers or some seasoning bottles and has some more hooks for accessories.
I went for the Performer for the side table, The charcoal bin and the gas assist for getting the coals going . I'm not very handy so the thought of building a better table never crossed my mind! lol. Looks like you have already gotten some good use out of the kettle look forward to those videos!
That gas assist is pretty sweet. I was so close to going that option. Great choice!
I was on Amazon’s site...thinking and thinking...on the 165 or the 210... your review...helped a lot. 210 it is...thanks
The Master Touch has a few more features. The premium is probably the better deal though. But you really can't go wrong with either.
I have the most downscale 22 inch Weber kettle, without the ash collector (it's just a tray to catch ash underneath the bottom vent). The Master Touch is worth it. The problem is even the base model seems to last forever, even with minimal care and much abuse. I plan to upgrade when it dies. But it won't die!
Best grill I ever bought
I love my master-touch, but am frustrated with a few things - namely the lid bail and the lack of availability of the head-shield/charcoal ring found in the Euro MT-Premium models. The saving grace for the lid bail is that you can replace it with the one for the Performer and get the same 90-degree tilt. The replacement is about $30.
I will look into the replacement lid bail as I'm not crazy about the stock one either. Still love the Master Touch though. The slightly taller stance is especially nice.
@@GallaghersGrub I don't hate the bail - just the fact that it wasn't the new design. The taller stance is very nice and my back loves me for it. Check for part #65188 to find the bail assembly.
@@radish4105 I will most definitely make that upgrade. Thank you.
Another difference is that the Master Touch is a few inches taller than the Original 22” kettle.
Yes, it is a bit taller so it's better for taller people
All the bells and whistles are nice but ive always used the most basic 22in weber for anything. Get yourself a $5 oven thermometer and charcoal baskets about $20. Which you dont really need the baskets even either but they're more convenient.
I had the basic model myself for many many years. It's a great grill, but I did upgrade the grates on it to the hinged kind.
The 26" kettle lid goes back completely I believe.
I just got my 26” and it does go back much further. Not quite 90 degs straight up, but close enough
Very informative review. Thx
Yessir! Thanks for watching.
I love my $109 model. Wouldn't trade it for this one.
Nice. I bought that version in 2006. Only upgrade I made to it was replacing the grates after about 10 years to hinged grates. Still running strong.
@@GallaghersGrub The hinged grates are nice, will certainly upgrade when the time comes.
I just love its simplicity. If it aint broke...
That sucks, I don't want my cover getting in the way. Thanks for letting me know about the flaw, I was about to purchase this big one :o/
It's not ideal, but the grill is still fantastic. The Weber Kettle Premium at $165 is an incredible grill for the money. Highly recommend.
EL EVO it's not really a deal breaker. You still can access the whole grill no issue. It seems to be a complaint for no reason.
If you stand in front of the grill instead of on the side the lids not a problem for me anyway.
I have the Premium and I'm happy I saved the $50 or so.
Appreciate your detail review, clear and concise. Thank you :)
Too kind. Thank you.
I have one and use it more than any grill in my collection!
I'm using mine probably every other day. I love it.
Nice review of your Weber kettle I have the premium Weber kettle I have some of the features yours have except the grill grate and the lid holder. I agree that there should be two thermometers on the lid I can get the same grill top as yours and been thinking about because I like the sear great for the steaks
Yeah, I cannot wait to get the sear grate. I can already hear the sear.
Nice review, bro ... as i mentioned in last video‘s comments, I own the smaller version of that kettle. One thing for sure, if you place the lid in its holder, it doesn’t have that angle than yours does. Strange.
Nevertheless this grill gives you a huge variety of methods to grill your food. My favorite is chicken, like beer can chicken.
I wish you all the best and lots of fun with it
Dietrich from Germany Sent best regards
I think I'll be making a beer can chicken vid very soon. Thanks for watching in Germany.
Excellent glad i purchased one
Me too. I'm making spare ribs today. Should be a 5-6 hour cook. Cheers man!
@@GallaghersGrub I am originally from The Bronx NY had no idea what this way of cooking was all about till i did my due diligence it's definitely the way to go.
@@DanielGonzalez-jz3og I like charcoal any time I have the time for the flavor and the fun of cooking over live fire. But I still keep a gas grill on hand for quick cooks, when it's raining, convenience, etc.
Totally agree with the lid... what was they thinking
Not a deal breaker, just not very well thought out.
Great video. I have the basic and it has performed well. Try cooking your Thanksgiving day turkey. - amazing results over the offset method! Best wishes for a great adventure in grilling! Cheers!
Actually I'm hoping to get a fryer for the Thanksgiving turkey. Cannot beat deep fried turkey! Cheers Bill!
Sounds Yummy! I am looking forward to the video of your results! Best wishes for a great fall-season! Time for a good IPA, today? Cheers!🧧🤙
@@kylerdad123 Kind of rainy and cold here today. I bought a couple of porterhouses for the grill and I'm going to be popping a bottle of Napa Cab.
I think the premium model is a better deal. That grill grate seems gimmicky to me.
Only complaint I have with the premium is it's not the 26" model.
Could be that the premium is the better deal. I haven't used many of the grate accessories yet, but I did try the cast iron sear grate and I wasn't that impressed. As far as size, I actually prefer the 22-inch to the 26-inch, but I'm usually not cooking for a ton of people. Thanks for watching, instantsiv
I'm not a fan of the lid holder either. Good overview of a classic grill. 🔥
Thanks HotSauce. Cheers!
If you don’t want the heating rack I’ll take it lol. They don’t sell it separately for some reason
Yeah they don't but sometimes you can find it on Amazon for a decent price. That's where I got mine. Just watch out for fakes.
Here's one on eBay:
www.ebay.com/itm/Weber-22-1-2-26-1-2-Charcoal-Kettle-Grill-Stainless-Top-Warming-Rack/123770187912?hash=item1cd1473088:g:ip4AAOSwQKlc3ZGA
I agree about the lid...but also charging extra for a different color...doesn't change the taste...crazy talk
Still, probably the best grill you can get for the money. Cheers Michael!
My only complaint on mine so far is I wish I had bought it at 2019 prices!
Weber just upped their prices for the second time in the past 6 months. We are all feeling it.
@City Escape Griller i saw that. Right after I got mine!
It's a great grill and video.
It's dangerous to cook with charcoal on a deck that's connected to your home. At a minimum, please consider putting a large, flame proof grill mat underneath.
Thanks for the kind words, purleybaker. Got a grill mat a few weeks ago.
@@GallaghersGrub I'm not sure how I stumbled across your channel but am looking forward to working through your videos.
purleybaker shut the hell up pussy. Enjoy life, damn
Is it possible that the angle of lid cover was purposefully done that way to be used in conjunction with the "heating rack". Perhaps the angle was meant to keep in a bit of heat, in the event you had to add meat/charcoal?
I'm not sure. Another person commented that it might be to prevent the wind from knocking the grill over. This is the only reason I can see as to why they would redesign it on the Performer but not on the stand-alone kettles.
The Performer is actually $279 MSRP.
The Performer with the small side table is $279. The Performers with the full-sized tables cost another $100 or so.
These have increased in price significantly. The premium is now $219 and the master touch is $280 at Home Depot. I just bought a Master Touch second hand for $140.
Yep. Weber taking advantage of inflation like every other company.
They aren’t taking advantage of inflation. They are an American company using American materials and paying American workers. I would gladly pay obviously 290 for a master touch as I did to support all of that and get a 10 year warranty. It’s the cost of doing business and surviving in America
@@jacobauld565 The Weber Spirit and Genesis II are entirely made in China. Most of their other grills are made from parts sourced from around the world.
I just saw $450 for a Master at Ace Hardware. Maybe 100 bucks worth of materials to make one. I got my premium for under 200 bucks so I don't see where the other 250 is in the Masters.
I have the Premium kettle and I'm not convinced the Master Touch is worth the additional $50. The only practical add-on between the two is the lid holder and I have no problem hanging the lid on the side on my Premium. In fact, I might be annoyed at the slanted lid over the grill. The Performer is definitely not worth the money in my opinion.
After I bought the Master Touch, I had a little buyer's remorse thinking I should have just gone with the Premium. A year later and I'm very happy I went with the MT. It stands a little taller than the Premium, and I really like that. The grates are also heavier duty. The plastic on the top vent is a nice touch, and the included charcoal baskets are helpful. So far, I've only purchased the searing grate for the Gourmet BBQ system. I wasn't that impressed, but we'll see if the other accessories are better.
Cooking with Ry made a comparison video of the two grills here: th-cam.com/video/_1FkQRtbblw/w-d-xo.html
City Escape Griller . I think the extras are definitely nice and for someone who’s going to buy them anyway they should get the Master Touch. I only want the slow n sear and don’t care much for the other extras.
Anyway, nice review and my original comment was in no way an attack on you or critiquing your video. Thanks for the video and the reply! Happy grilling!
@@MrSupernova111 I think the taller size of the MT cannot be overstated. It's a really big selling point in my opinion.
good charcoal organiser
City Escape Griller Great video! I was thinking to buy one of the Master Touch Premium with some additional features - like smoking setup and hinged lid but still couldn't find decent review like this one. Do you have any thoughts about MT Premium 2019?
I believe Pitmaster X did an unboxing and review on his TH-cam channel. Personally, I'm not sold on the hinged lid, but I really don't know because I don't believe that model is available here in the U.S.
The lid holder is made to be a wind deflector.
I don't totally hate the lid holder. It's useful, it's just not perfect.
Has Weber ever addressed the thermometer location?
No, but you can add one near the vent pretty easily.
I fricken love mine. But I’ve come from a base model that I picked up on the side of the road😮. The lid opener or holder, does yours touch the painted part of the lid?? I just worried because it so shiny and new I don’t want the paint to wear of on the ring.
I love mine and just added a rotisserie. Check out my latest vid and see what I made on the Master Touch:
th-cam.com/video/SIh6gggZTvY/w-d-xo.html
I just order master touch from target. I did not know you can buy tables for them separately. Looking for table now
Check out my review of the Keter outdoor table. Sometimes you can find them cheap.
Bought one today
You cannot go wrong with a Weber Kettle. And the Master Touch is the best of the bunch without tables.
Excellent review. Love your channel. What do you think about the Weber 15301001 Performer Charcoal Grill, 22-Inch, Black $279 amazon
I think all 22" Weber Kettles are great. The one with the smaller table gets excellent reviews. I have not personally owned one, but if that's your budget or you don't have room for the bigger table, then pull the trigger and save the $ for other gear like a rotisserie. There's always a chance for "buyer's remorse" thinking you should've gotten the one with the bigger table, but that's life...
City Escape Griller thanks
I thought all the old schools had the little hook inside to hang
The Original with the pan ash catcher and the Premium both have hooks for the lid. The Master Touch has the lid bale.
Do you have to buy the gourmet accessories
I was wondering if you could just spin the lid around till the thermometer is above the food and wait a bit just to take a reading then spin it back around to where it normally sits, if that would work till you add a thermometer on the food side?
Thanks for the idea Sheila! Cheers!
I seen the regular performer is only 50 dollars or so more than this one at 279 + tax.
Yes, the one with the small side table. Definitely a good deal and could be a sweet spot for some folks.
I heard when cleaning the middle circle grill rack, it keeps falling off when you scrub it. Is this true or does it stay in place?
The middle circle rack has never fallen off. Not an issue.
Ordered this recently over my current Weber, which is basically the same but doesn't have the plastic handle on the top vents, nor the lid holder or master touch grate. I also thought their newer models held the lid lower. Might just keep using my old lid with the hook instead... :S Does the lid holder come attached already in the box? Thanks for the video.
The lid holder has to be attached. I don't know if the Master Touch is a better value than the Premium. But they are definitely both a step up from the basic model.
@@GallaghersGrub Thanks. It's the Premium I have now. One of the bottom sliding scraper arms is bending up a bit (my fault for getting a piece of chunk charcoal caught in it) and it's rusting up a bit where the bottom vent arm handle is connected. Only a few years old, but I leave it out and use it a lot year round, winter and summer. Maybe I should have just gotten another Premium one. Hmm...
@@WR3ND Hard to say if the Master Touch is worth the extra $, but maybe you'll really like the gourmet system. In any case, Weber Kettles are the best and you really can't go wrong.
@@GallaghersGrub Yeah, they make great grills. I was just checking on Amazon a little bit ago here, and it looks like they sell a replacement kit for the "one-touch cleaning system," so I'll give that a try and see if I can replace my bent and rusting one. Cheers.
@@GallaghersGrub Ended up ordering the one touch system replacement, but the old one is rusted solid and I ended up bending the bottom of the kettle basin where it attaches while trying to turn the handle to unseat the keying ridge on it. So, I ordered another Premium (went with a crimson one this time) and will replace the one touch system sooner as needed on it before it gets too rusty. Live and learn. Cheers.
Have you thought about adding the Kettle Zone Cooking Systen and do four 8 lbs Boston Butts at once? :-)
I would like to at some point. Looks like a great accessory. Very cool.
Hey mate- quick question. Do you think you could use a kettle in an apartment balcony? I'm worried about smoking out my neighbours lol
Probably not. They're very smokey when you light them. Good luck sir!
Could? Yes. Should? No. Try it? Do it and you will meet new neighhbours... 👹👹👹 but see your insurance cover for fire and bbq... an electric bbq would be fine...
Any Q gas grill would do your job perfectly 👌
The warming rack is the business for hot dogs.
Nice. I still haven't used my warming rack. I also own a basic kettle (with the ash tray) that I bought in 2006. It's at my ex-wife's house now and still works perfect. Although I did replace the grate with one that has hinges a few years back.
I red below, dont use in balcony. I bought a Spirit 2 E310 but failed. I made 3 barbecues and stoped. In a first floor with a 40m2 and open... could i use this one? The perfóremer has the advantage that you can light charcoal with gas...
You have to check with your building management. This grill smokes a lot and sparks fly when using lump charcoal.
Thanks 🙌🏾
They are great grills, but in the UK very expensive. That said my last one lasted nearly 15 years untill it rusted through.....
If I get 15 years out of this one I'll feel very blessed. Thanks for watching in the UK, Martin.
Does this Weber have air leaks around the rim? You can see smoke coming out of there while grilling? Thank you👍
These don't have gaskets and the vents were pretty much shut down. I think that's fairly typical for a Weber Kettle.
@@GallaghersGrub pretty much every video I have seen with any kettle grill unless they have added some type of gasket leaks. I just bought the Weber master I haven't put it together yet but I figure it will probably leak as well. Keep up the great videos 👍
I went to order the master touch 22" and started reading reviews was lots of complaints about the metal being thinner then used to be. And legs not made as good. Several people said lid didnt get a seal anymore cause was much lighter.
Wanting to make a good purchase decision. Thoughts?
I have an old Weber Kettle 22" from 2006. The base model. I see no difference in the weight of the metal. I've never noticed any Weber Kettle to seal in the smoke. The lid seems to be the same and the legs have always been a bit flimsy. The legs on my Master Touch are very tight and I doubt they will fall out as they have in past kettles I've owned.
The grates on the Master Touch are a much heavier grade than the premium or base.
Definitely a great purchase. No regrets at all.
City Escape Griller thanks for the quick reply. Although I hate the lid not being straight up and down, I will order the master touch. Thanks again.
@@michaelmccullough1726 You'll love it!
So, no charcoal ring and deflector pan with this model?
Europe-only! :(
👏👏👏
Why kind of table do you recommend?
They also make an XL which seems to be a better price at the moment. th-cam.com/video/JDigfhNg05I/w-d-xo.html
@@GallaghersGrub thanks. Looks like inflation beat me to it...👍🏾
99% of people don't use the warming rack.
I still haven't used mine. Maybe I'll try it this weekend, I just don't know what I'll use it for.
@@GallaghersGrub yeah they could have designed a better cover stand, gave an extra gourmet accessory for the grill or a small table, anything other than a warming rack. The only time I have ever used or seen the use of a warming rack is when the food is about to get burned and you got no other place to put your food on :)
Can you use the snake method on the master touch premium
Yes, the snake method is perfect for the Master Touch or any Weber Kettle.
I want to try doing Brunt Ends
@@agudman1 I've actually never made them. Great idea for a video. Cheers Keith!
Weber designers miss a ton of things. It seems like they don’t ever use their products?? The lid, the air venting system, the thermometer, no slot for a proper thermometer….it’s crazy. Haven’t they heard of TH-cam?
Talking about the Performer.... the table justblooks cheap and cheesy....
The food goes in the opposite side of the vent.
The food goes opposite the fire. Vent over food.
Why do all these rust at the bottom? Quality?
the lockness monster I tho it’s because most of the heat is concentrated there
The heat + the action of the one-touch system constantly abrading the vent-edge enamel would lead to some flaking and then eventual rust. Normal and not an issue in weber kettles.
Definitely not getting that BBQ.. Thanks for the heads up
It's an excellent grill. I use mine several times a week
Great bbq I have one and get good results 🇬🇧
Weber kettles are the best. No doubt!
100% agree mate
👍
Just get the Weber Original, the rest of those features really aren't that big of a difference for the price.
I've owned the original for many years. It's a great grill and all you really need. That said, the taller stance, the ash catcher and the heavier gauge grates of the Master Touch are pretty sweet.
That rack is useful for cooking tin foil wrapped veggies.
The Weber grilling basket I've reviewed twice is a great way to cook vegetables. Seriously, that's what you need.
haha really? doesnt know why youd have a warming rack.... not cooking for big groups i guess?
When I grill food, people eat it right away.
The lid sitting like that is enough not to buy this. Thanks for showing it.
I consider the lid holder a minor nuisance. It's still an incredible grill that I highly recommend
J
Gosh your such a wife! Complaining about everthing!
Made in China?
On the Weber website, they say the grills are assembled near Chicago, USA.
www.weber.com/US/en/made-in-chicago/weber-1909658.html
@@GallaghersGrub Parts are sourced/made in China and Weber assembles the product here in the states.
This has turned many people off of a company that used to be better.
However, for the price, Weber is still has value.
Some people just don't want China to profit compared to America.
Try another profession dude!!
Flattered that you think I'm a professional TH-camr. Cheers!
This is a total ripped off, we bought it today and right after assembling it, I wanna return it, the design is nothing special, it's just the same as other ordinary grill, for the price of 219$? We should have get the ordinary one! After watching this review I realize there is nothing but a piece of junk, imagine using only the middle of the grill? It was so small! And they said it as designed so u can cook something in the middle? Common! We bought this to grill! Weber should give our money back! .now! How can I reassemble this and return? I guess u would not be able to do that and just use this ordinary nothing special grill!!!