Was Panic! Doomed from the Start? | The Many Splits of Panic! At the Disco
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- A deep dive into Panic! At the Disco to uncover if they were ever meant to last.
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00:00 - Intro
1:30 - Part 1: So Who Was Panic! At the Disco?
3:36 - Part 2: Brent Wilson?
8:16 - Part 3: Pretty. Odd. (Mostly)
13:15 - Part 4: The Young Veins
16:16 - Part 5: Post-Split Panic!
17:46 - Part 6: This Band Can't Stop Splitting!
21:04 - Part 7: Conclusion - เพลง
I honestly think panic peaked too high with that first album imo they never managed to make anything close to Fever. And now that everyone left the band I doubt that making an album as good as fever is near impossible. I don’t know it’s just the whole vibe was so odd in a cool way. I also feel like to this day it doesn’t really sound like anything else out there.
The issue is Pretty Odd was a bad album. The sophomore album is always the hardest album for newly successful bands.
@@joshuafult84 it wasnt a bad album it just couldnt live up to fever
@@Rdkmrng No it was garbage it was as bad as Greta Van Fleet or Wolfmother. It was just a straight Beatles knock off without an original twist on it at all lol
@@joshuafult84 I dunno, for me it worked because it sounded way way different from their previous sound that it was genuinely wild to see it back to back on a discography and I think the fact that the next album was steampunk-ish with a bit of victorian gothic style which then again created a hard wall between three albums was something else
This is the video I've wanted to see/make myself for ages because of the amount of misinformation about the band I see online!! Thank you so much for this! :)
I love the unbiased approach to the topic and really focusing on the trajectory (for better or worse) of the band. Really great video
How have I been blindly listening to Jon Walker without knowing he was a part of panic!.
LMAO i did the same thing with dallon weekes when i was listening to the brobecks
great job! loved it!
You're so good at this! This video is super understandable and well made.
really loved your channel!
This was a great video! Subscribed!
My respects, this is a really good video although I should mention something else about the split of the band in 2009.
So basically Ryan and Jon were already planning to leave before the last pretty odd show. By that time they already knew something wasn't working. Afterwards they spent months barely talking about the new album so Ryan and Jon decided to sit down with the other two and speak about their situation. They came to the conclusion that the best thing for everybody was to split like they did. So to me it was a consensual decision made by all 4 of them.
Here's the video of Ryan talking about this: th-cam.com/video/MgXC3Tlgeyw/w-d-xo.html
How do you know that they were wanted to leave after that South Africa show
amazing video!! really interesting history thats laid out really well :]
i think panic peaked with their first album honestly, as you mentioned, putting 4 teenagers in the spotlight like that was bound not to go well.
really interesting vid! ur channel is super neat:)
for a very long time, my thoughts on whether panic was doomed from the start of not could've been mostly summed up as "a series of unfortunate circumstances". but then I learned about dallon not leaving the creative writing position of his own volition, and that it was just brendon who demoted him to touring member.
so it was brendon's own decision.
I feel like the guy is just....not fit to be in a band (that has other members in it) at all. he doesn't like to compromise, he hates when the spotlight isn't on him for a fraction of a second. I've read his official annotations on the genius article for "emperor's new clothes", it was pretty eye-opening. there he literally states, "i am panic at the disco". how much more explicit can you get?
It seems for everyone else except for Dallon was genuine, whether it be creative differences or Spencer who needed time to get better. It's still odd Dallon was demoted, unless part of the reason was because Dallon was getting ready to start idkhow but theres no other info. Brendons reasoning for saying that on the emperors new clothes apparantly cuz he was sidelined for a while and now it's just him, unless dude was being over the top just because, seeming from a lot of the old panic videos, tbf during too weird to live and the doab era was when Brendons ego seemed to be high before getting into the pray for the wicked album, but we will probably never know, and Dallon doesnt seem to want to talk abt it and move on with his project
Very well put together. I have attempted to look this stuff up myself but got overwhelmed by all the strong options surrounding different band members and so many conflicting reports, so having your video recommended to me was a welcome surprise. An interesting update could be how P!ATD is officially disbanded now and how that came to be, but I suspect people would want that video to turn into a Brendon Urie hate video
This was put together really nicely!
Great job. Youre a natural at this!
It should be noted that people aren't defined by their pasts but rather by who they shape themselves to be today. We shouldn't judge things Brendon has done several years ago and 2 decades ago. These were a few spiteful instances from a man whose prolonged career has been around since 2004. Brendon's made mistakes; we all have. We're all fundamentally flawed in some way as human beings who continue to live and grow but second chances should be given to everyone and we should allow for people to redeem themselves when they've made a mistake(s). Brendon's done an exceptional amount of good in this world. Back then that kind of humor was more accepted than it is now. Doesn't make it right but it makes it understandable. So while a lot of these things are in very poor taste, he apologized for all these things and has shown genuine character development. Almost- if not, ALL- of the stupid shit he's said or done was back early on in his career when he was dealing with a lot and used intoxicants.
Not everything has been decades ago
@@circusninjavoodoowizard well the only real claims against Brendon were
- 2011: "I wish to be born black" -> Basically all he said was that black people are cooler than white people, but he said it in the most weird way possible
- 2011: The video which went viral with the clown music -> Well, when he said that, he suffered from alcohol problems and he apologized later in a periscope stream.
- 2013: The vine where he mouthed along to a line with the n word in it -> Well, it was a vine and it wasn't him talking to anyone, it was just him mouthing along to a thing that someone else said.
No, the sexual assault allegations are not real. They have been faked just because people didn't like Brendon
@@xxMVGFan8xx the live from 2017/2018 where he rapped the n word? ok !
@@smasharue Well, are you black? If not, you have no reason to be offended by him.
And no, he was not using that word in a discriminating manner against anyone, he was simply rapping along to a song. Now, I'm not saying that what he did is right, but I'm also not saying that he should be cancelled because of it. There are people who have done significant worse things than that.
@@xxMVGFan8xx it doesn't matter if i'm black or not? nonblack people should not be saying the n word at all point blank lol, and brendon has done significantly worse things than that so either way it doesn't matter
Awesome video, loved it! Can I ask what has Brendon done wrong that hasn't been disproven besides bad things he's said but apologized for?
i did ask for you to look this up yourself, right? but what made me stop was his careless use of the n-word on public platforms relatively recently (i am in no position to accept this apology) and keeping on crew members who harrassed Dallon Weekes and his wife (namely Zach Hall, who was not removed until WELL after Weekes left and I believe Urie is still friends with him) Also admitting Ryan Ross was not into his stage advances was not a good look
@@taylorsquared Those are all absolutely valid, thanks for answering my question still haha I honestly forgot that you said that, my bad. I was just curious what your reasons were personally and wasn’t trying to disagree with what you said, I really did like the video !
@@taylorsquared "keeping on crew members who harrassed Dallon Weekes and his wife" - I'm sorry, but you're almost two years late to that one. Zach has been fired already more 1.5 years ago.
@@xxMVGFan8xx if you read any further you’d realize i said he wasn’t fired until after weekes left, which is true. he should’ve been fired sooner
@@taylorsquared Well, i'm not trying to be an english teacher - I'm not, english is my second language. However, the way you phrased that part implied that Zach is still with the band, which he isn't.
It depends on what you mean by PATD being "doomed." If you mean "doomed" in the sense of them staying together, you may very well be right given all the circumstances you carefully outlined. But PATD has gotten even more successful and popular over time notwithstanding the changes and the fact it's now a solo project. So in that sense, the band was never "doomed," but really has been on a steady incline since their inception.
@@ManuelMartinez-lj3qg booooo
No joke, thought that this was by Ed Shereen xD
i barely even watched the video im just here for the comments, and your replies to people have me dying😭💀 why are you being so rude replying to people?
I’m wondering if you will do a response on artv video on brendon
no. don’t watch artv, don’t do response videos, don’t like talking about brendon urie
@@taylorsquared ok
Brent Wilson left the band in 2006 by cause lack of responsibility no why they choose Jon in the first place Jon doesn’t just play bass he could sing play guitar & play drums & drums that’s why on May 13 2006 Jon replaced Brent on bass
From emo cringe to this legend❤ iam so proud
Lol and now Panic has split yet again, Brendon breaking up with.... himself?
Do you think that they kept the band name because they signed a deal, (which we know, most deals with a label requires a certain "amount" of records released within a certain time frame), perhaps it would have been too costly to not "fullfil the bands legal obligation" via that contract? Could have bankrupt them all to take it to court and fight out of it, no one else would have signed them afterwards, it could have been detrimental to all of them either way they did this.
Multi-record contracts are not as common on indie labels, and both DCD2/Decaydance and Fueled by Ramen fall under that umbrella. I find it unlikely that they'd be holding Panic! to a long record contract but not Fun. or Gym Class Heroes
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Do you like panic at the disco music though?
Well, she did make this video. If she didn’t like or care about Panic, there wouldn’t be a video.