better now and recoil seems to be in par with the C96 tanker and pilot carbine since I tested this weapon on Gallicia operation Brusilov Offensive playing as the Austrian Army
KriticalKris Did they nerf the trench carbine? It seems to take 4 bullets to kill up close. Also on the PS4 it says it does 27 dmg, not 34. Am I missing something?
Unlike most TH-camrs who just show gameplay and talk about the gun. You actually go into the historical details and stats on the weapon. You deserve way more subscribers than most of the other people who make BF1 videos like mr complainer levelcap.
Man, I am loving this gun! I unlocked it without even going for it and decided to give it a try and I got 30 kills with it (got it Mid way through the match too), but I think this is because I mainly play the medic class. Nice review!
At first, I hated this gun, but then I started to change my play style with it and now I absolutely love it . I try to take a medic play style, not so frontline centric, more of a second line attacker and you totally shred dudes left and right with it.
Just unlocked this tonight and am a fan after just a couple matches. Decent damage and accuracy and a nearly non existent recoil allowing some fun and rewarding tack driver type of spam fire. Damage does still feel lower to me than the numbers say but if you can stay on target enemies will fall and the capacity allows the user to take on an entire squad and come out on top if played well. 10/10 would use again.
GHOSTLEAD NOPE. M1903 experimental has: low damage, awful bullet spread, shitty iron sights, useless hip spread. C96 trench or as you propably wish m1917 trench carbine is IMHO best assault weapon. No recoil at all, 41ammo in a mag, dmg that allows you to kil enemy faster than any other smg at distance over 25 meters (dmg drop off, accuracy, rate of fire etc.).
Another thing you didn't mention for why the P08 Artillery was chosen over the M1917 was the shared magazine between the MP18 and the Artillery, with a 36 round drum
Yo Chocolate Yea but that's the thing. Some people like the idea of having pineapple on pizza and the same for the gun sights 😄 I personally don't like pineapple on pizza or using buckhorn sights on the gun, but I understand if some people do
You’re the only TH-camr when I need a weapon review. Detail-oriented data, history are the parts that outstanding big boys like Westie and Levelcap. This is truly a skill-canon, just like 8.35 Marksman/Factory. I find it pretty hard for me to use. Maybe I’m still in my learning curve
I have a serious question. Does the machine pistol have a 1200 rpm or 900? I just watched LevelCap say that the stats are 1200 though in game it says 900.
Jonathon Nabajeth. Keep in mind the new TTK patch, I heard it will be reduced to 900 rpm but has a higher dmg output. Haven't heard it from the horses mouth (DICE) yet but according to symthic it uses the same rounds as the hellriegel, which is getting a buff.
InterMilitiaCp I would suggest either the M1911 as it is a great sidearm for finishing off players at close quarters or the Nagant or Gasser M1870 Revolver as those are great at finishing off players at medium distance if you run out of ammo
I love these reviews. Basically just DarthVeda but for games after Battlefield 4&H. (DarthVeda was a Battlefield 3, 4, and Hardline youtuber who did a Yes or No series where he would first say if you should generally use the weapon or not, and then do a detailed explanation and review similar to what Kris does here, and also recommend attachments. Unfortunately, he never really made content after Battlefield 1. Luckily, I found Kris who makes videos on par, or even better than him). The historical notes are a plus too!
A relatively versatile weapon for the assault class. It is quite possibly if not probably the most potent assault-class weapon at relative range, and it is also fairly capable in close quarters combat, for the most part, as well.
I absolutely love this gun! I don't know why, but I do! It's design is complex, and the way it works in the assualt class, but that's what makes it awesome!
I just got the trench carbine I love it right after I got it I got a 4or 5 kill streak the patrol carbine is ok the scope on it gets in the way and has gotten me killed on more than one occasion I prefer the trench carbine better probably because I love iron sights but have that is just me
Very useful review, I tend to use this weapon to take out targets from medium range and it is good for taking out those annoying people who hold up on the edge of the map...
the m1917 carbine in my experience is great clip size, great reload speed, great accuracy retention, tight control, great iron sights, and acceptable damage output
@@croccandbaultorcure3295 Regardless a very good gun, in my experience with 3 shots to the torso will body bag them, pretty good gun but it seems hte gun is underappreciated
A better reviewer of guns on bf1 than most, if not all, of the other battlefield TH-camrs. The other guys just bitch and moan when something isn’t better than the hellreigel or automatico.
Ok, how do i find these servers you play on full of enemies that just stand there and watch you?? You are definitely a very skilled player, much better than me, but damn, its like you are playing against bots!
The funniest thing about this gun is abusing the low recoil. Just lay into them and tune into head when you can. Or snipe a dude... with like 15 rounds real fast. Other than that, stopping power is piss, you kinda use it like an SMG. Patrol is great cause you have close range through hip fire easily. Great video :)
I'll probably make a video going over favourites at a later date, I tend to use all of the weapons equally though (depending on the gamemode and just general mood really) they're all useful in their own situations
This gun would NOT have been better than the alternative. You must keep in mind you're looking at this gun aesthetically and operation wise (when it always works.) thanks to the video game. It leaves out the reality of environmental and stress from excessive use durability and endurance. People complained about the pistol having some issues in these two areas in the past. The other one did not have as much cons. It had more marks over it than this weapon to make it be favored more. Also... You can't load a bayonet on it. The barrel portion always has to move operate for each shot. This is not suited for bayonets. If you're talking about the other one they had in mind was that special luger they made for the artillery then it has the same issue too. The difference is it has better longevity in the conditions they plan to use the firearms in. Then there is the fact they were already mass producing them and the magazine for it. This made the cost cheaper because you didn't have to tool up to manufacture the weapon. It also means you can just give guys what you already had in your stock or some other guy's gun. The games only show a superficial portrayal of guns. They leave out the reality of what the weapon is like and the logistics of actually required in producing and supplying for this gun. There's no way in hell they could have chosen that gun for the storm troops. If I recall properly they were still learning and understanding what a storm trooper needed for his job. This includes the importance to have the ability to attach a bayonet. You don't realize how still useful and practical they are in warfare, particularly for storm troopers. This is why they had that spike on that other sub gun that you can describe as a proto-nazi-mp-40 of ww2. Heck... even the Japanese realized just letting their cavalry have a saber instead simply doesn't cut it. Soldiers need a weapon they can attach a blade ahead of time to charge in c.q.b. areas without having to waste precious 1-5 seconds of pulling out the saber. You want to have the ability to stab immediately as you managed to jump into the location. That's why they didn't adopt it. They realized it was not a good idea or afford the m1917 trench
see I mostly shoot with the sights and after watching how he played with it I'll start to use hip fire then see how I do. so just use it like the Heilriegel factory I assume
I want to cry when I see PC elitist who thinks they are a superior human being just because mommy bought them PC. Just let people enjoy what platform they want to play on cause at the end of the day it dosent fucking matter of course PC is better than console in almost every way but that dose not make console players peasants or you some kind of god. Just please do us all a favour and shut the fuck up. Why am I even giving you attention.
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PATCHED 01/2018: Max damage - 34.7 up to 11 meters, Min damage 15 at 39 meters [3-7 bullet kill], Vertical recoil - 0.36
KriticalKris confused. Is it better now?
+josephpa05 Yep, kills in one less bullet up close (with a tiny bit more recoil as a slight trade-off)
better now and recoil seems to be in par with the C96 tanker and pilot carbine since I tested this weapon on Gallicia operation Brusilov Offensive playing as the Austrian Army
KriticalKris Did they nerf the trench carbine? It seems to take 4 bullets to kill up close. Also on the PS4 it says it does 27 dmg, not 34. Am I missing something?
@@ZangiefNoob they updated the stats but the in game visual stats often didn’t change in this game. Makes for some confusion
Unlike most TH-camrs who just show gameplay and talk about the gun. You actually go into the historical details and stats on the weapon. You deserve way more subscribers than most of the other people who make BF1 videos like mr complainer levelcap.
I'm glad you take the time to edit these properly instead of rushing them out to get easy views. The quality of these guides are top notch
ArkhamWarrior88 agree
Finally I can use a C96 carbine without having to play as a tanker.
Alonzo Aldaba you can do it if you are a support
@@seppalastname4574 that update wasnt out when he or she commented
this gun appeals much more than Maschinepistole
Xan Saibot Maschinenpistole. You forgot the "s" in Maschine.
Disagree. I think the 1912/16 is a much more dymanic, interesting firearm due to its select fire capability and ability to mow in CQB.
ty, sir.
He forgot the n
Dude the unlock for that is shit terrible
To he kill boats with at rocket gun is terrible
Damn shame most of these were destroyed
I like how the added an automatic carbine and a semi-automatic one
Significantly better than the SMG 08.
SniperWalrus ikr, the smg 08 is shit
It's way better, but I don't even play BF2 anymore. :|
Man, I am loving this gun! I unlocked it without even going for it and decided to give it a try and I got 30 kills with it (got it Mid way through the match too), but I think this is because I mainly play the medic class. Nice review!
At first, I hated this gun, but then I started to change my play style with it and now I absolutely love it . I try to take a medic play style, not so frontline centric, more of a second line attacker and you totally shred dudes left and right with it.
Just unlocked this tonight and am a fan after just a couple matches. Decent damage and accuracy and a nearly non existent recoil allowing some fun and rewarding tack driver type of spam fire. Damage does still feel lower to me than the numbers say but if you can stay on target enemies will fall and the capacity allows the user to take on an entire squad and come out on top if played well. 10/10 would use again.
This gun is basically a M1903 experimental for the assault class.
GHOSTLEAD NOPE. M1903 experimental has: low damage, awful bullet spread, shitty iron sights, useless hip spread. C96 trench or as you propably wish m1917 trench carbine is IMHO best assault weapon. No recoil at all, 41ammo in a mag, dmg that allows you to kil enemy faster than any other smg at distance over 25 meters (dmg drop off, accuracy, rate of fire etc.).
Yep, except the M1917 has slightly higher damage at close range and better hip firing accuracy
Another thing you didn't mention for why the P08 Artillery was chosen over the M1917 was the shared magazine between the MP18 and the Artillery, with a 36 round drum
YES!!!!
Who else is ready for the best BF1 weapon reviewer on YT?
Can't wait for the rest of the weapons also FIRST!!!
ReconPro not really first but that's K :)
Bob Johnson Um this video came out a day ago?
ReconPro um you were not first comment. Um um um
Bob Johnson How do you even know?
Bob Johnson Fine I was second but I was still close.
Ahh yes the pez dispenser of death, my favorite.
I was hyped for this vid :D
Using the buckhorn sights on that thing is like putting pineapple on a pizza though
Yo Chocolate Yea but that's the thing. Some people like the idea of having pineapple on pizza and the same for the gun sights 😄 I personally don't like pineapple on pizza or using buckhorn sights on the gun, but I understand if some people do
The buckhorn sights look rather ugly/uncool.
I like the buckhorn sights ;-;
Where's the C93 suppressed carbine, hardly any TH-camr cover that gun
Because it’s shit
because it’s shit
You can see its weaknesses when you compare it to the other tanker/pilot weapons
you provide a good detailed guide to each weapon of bf1. you should format your videos like this for all the bf1 guns
I actually got all the multikills by accident
As for the pistol kills, took 5 minutes
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Quickscope Kid the tf2 heavy language comment POOTISS the rescue ranger of battle field one!
Quickscope Kid haha where u from?
+Bob Johnson Waterford boyo lad all me life
Quickscope Kid. How ye doin me Boy?
Kilkenny is just the best tho isn't it?
The best TH-camrs have less subscribers..
Facts..
#BestWeaponReview
You’re the only TH-camr when I need a weapon review. Detail-oriented data, history are the parts that outstanding big boys like Westie and Levelcap.
This is truly a skill-canon, just like 8.35 Marksman/Factory. I find it pretty hard for me to use. Maybe I’m still in my learning curve
the factory Model 8 apparently has horrendus accuracy
I have a serious question. Does the machine pistol have a 1200 rpm or 900? I just watched LevelCap say that the stats are 1200 though in game it says 900.
1200, the game stats are wrong, that little son of a gun does kill faster than the automatico
Sweet thank you! I am so glad that Dice stuck to the real life fire rate.
Jonathon Nabajeth yeah i like that too but... What the heck did they do to the iron sights??? I dont think they look like that in real life...
Jonathon Nabajeth. Keep in mind the new TTK patch, I heard it will be reduced to 900 rpm but has a higher dmg output.
Haven't heard it from the horses mouth (DICE) yet but according to symthic it uses the same rounds as the hellriegel, which is getting a buff.
Excellent review as always. When I made my star with this weapon, really enjoyed that. The Assault Class Skill Cannon Gun.
Kris could you also add a section where you recommend the best pistol to pair it with ?
InterMilitiaCp I would suggest either the M1911 as it is a great sidearm for finishing off players at close quarters or the Nagant or Gasser M1870 Revolver as those are great at finishing off players at medium distance if you run out of ammo
InterMilitiaCp I pair it with the Obrez
That gunslinger nagant headshot tho
I love these reviews. Basically just DarthVeda but for games after Battlefield 4&H. (DarthVeda was a Battlefield 3, 4, and Hardline youtuber who did a Yes or No series where he would first say if you should generally use the weapon or not, and then do a detailed explanation and review similar to what Kris does here, and also recommend attachments. Unfortunately, he never really made content after Battlefield 1. Luckily, I found Kris who makes videos on par, or even better than him). The historical notes are a plus too!
A relatively versatile weapon for the assault class. It is quite possibly if not probably the most potent assault-class weapon at relative range, and it is also fairly capable in close quarters combat, for the most part, as well.
In the next update, this weapon will be strengthened to three shots deadly within 12 meters, it will be a full of potential weapon in the future.
I absolutely love this gun! I don't know why, but I do! It's design is complex, and the way it works in the assualt class, but that's what makes it awesome!
I just got the trench carbine I love it right after I got it I got a 4or 5 kill streak the patrol carbine is ok the scope on it gets in the way and has gotten me killed on more than one occasion I prefer the trench carbine better probably because I love iron sights but have that is just me
Very useful review, I tend to use this weapon to take out targets from medium range and it is good for taking out those annoying people who hold up on the edge of the map...
Fucken hell Kris, your gameplay never ceases to amaze me. Any pointers to playing like you? Holy fuck
I'd definitely advise lowering your deadzone setting, gives a lot more control 👍
I guess this is for Assault players that find they have to attack from longer ranges a lot
Ok power, great control, great iron sight to understand and great clip size, you can seriously fire many bullets and not notice any sort of recoil
I love this gun but I'm bloody terrible with it, I really don't know how to spam
peacekeeper as the primary and the 1917 trench carbine as the secondary
It's easier to to actually kill someone when you actually hit someone
actually
The trench carbine is basically just:
“Hey did you play agent pea in PVZ:GW?”
“Yeah, how did you know?”
the m1917 carbine in my experience is great clip size, great reload speed, great accuracy retention, tight control, great iron sights, and acceptable damage output
*mag size
@@croccandbaultorcure3295 Regardless a very good gun, in my experience with 3 shots to the torso will body bag them, pretty good gun but it seems hte gun is underappreciated
Why do you not have more subscribers
I got ban wite that gun
A better reviewer of guns on bf1 than most, if not all, of the other battlefield TH-camrs. The other guys just bitch and moan when something isn’t better than the hellreigel or automatico.
I 'm a bit confused on why the M1917 is much better than the C96 carbine?
Christmas just came early!
Christmas wasn't the only one. :(
Why it is assault carbine but not pistol carbine if it is pistol Mauser with long barrel, big magazine and stock?
I’ve beat ppl using the hellreogil (butchered it) with this gun
Ok, how do i find these servers you play on full of enemies that just stand there and watch you?? You are definitely a very skilled player, much better than me, but damn, its like you are playing against bots!
Kris have u been experiencing high ping in servers as well atleast 1 or 2 times ? Or is it just a few of us ...
Well researched well structured technique. Think I'll subscribe
Huzzah!!!!! Thanks Kriticalkris!!!
That infiltrator was drunk
this thing has no recoil, I love it.
9mm bullet-- 28 damage ...lol. but the riboreyles with the rifle round is 24 only.. they just made it 28 to balance the weapons.. il
I unlocked all the turning tide weapons today
Rhis gun is op just spamming bullets on enemy and totally destroying them
Keep doing what you do man!
I use the patrol varieant with a scope hip fire at close and scope at range
My dad tried the M1917 for the first time and he didn't realized the gun was semi-auto.
Used to be absolutely trash at assault class till I unlocked this, up to level 10 in 2 weeks :)
Nicknamed: *NO RECOIL GUN*
This weapon is so fucking fun i swear i love this this gun
So if its semi auto n trigger button is broken to poin where is Sensetive does that mean I can shoot faster than the rate of fire cap
There should be a variant with a low power optic, to cement it's place as a medium range weapon.
seems very similar to po8 artillerie, it just has more ammo better sights, and lower recoil
m1917 carbine + gas grenades= ez clap
Do the Carcano next pleaseee
So basically a tanker/pilot pistol carbine for the assault class?
Love this one, it's a close favourite with the ribeyrolle and the automatico as assault light weapons
The funniest thing about this gun is abusing the low recoil.
Just lay into them and tune into head when you can.
Or snipe a dude... with like 15 rounds real fast.
Other than that, stopping power is piss, you kinda use it like an SMG.
Patrol is great cause you have close range through hip fire easily.
Great video :)
good video,but sometyhing happened to your video quality
Which automatic weapon(s) do you find the most forgiving for poor aim and trouble shooting when moving for close/medium range? (class isn't important)
Hellriegel for assault, MG1917 for support
I accidentally got this gun, I was pretty surprised that it was that good
Can we get this for tanker and pilot
Maschinenpistole 1912/p16 pleaseeeee
Which program do you use to recording a video from game?
Can you do the Browning gun on the next next video?
Not finding any of the weapons great. Honestly I'd have to say the LMG is the best.
Devon Santos theyre all pretty good except for that other fast firing pistol. But I liked the russian dlc weapons more except the perino
What’s ur fov
this gun is a headshot machine if you can aim at head lines
De las mejores armas del juego. Me hincho a matar con ella
I agree with Chris Ide and
I like it.
I cant aim with this one, like... At all.
Arkham Warrior
Lol carbEEn
Are there automatic variants of the C96 that exist today?
Yes just good luck finding any
Thanks for all the info! What are your fav weapons for each class? Trying to get the hang of BF1 and enjoying it a lot
I'll probably make a video going over favourites at a later date, I tend to use all of the weapons equally though (depending on the gamemode and just general mood really) they're all useful in their own situations
KriticalKris Thanks for the info. Keep the vids coming, enjoying them!
Matthew Sussens trench carving for assault, sebstralader (I spelled wrong) for medic, idk for support and gewehr 98 for scout
Carbeen
Good vid
Subbed
What's a trench car-bean?
It's Mr Bean car that can be driven into a trench.
Jokes aside, it's meant to be spelled Trench Carbine.
Let’s go
This gun would NOT have been better than the alternative. You must keep in mind you're looking at this gun aesthetically and operation wise (when it always works.) thanks to the video game. It leaves out the reality of environmental and stress from excessive use durability and endurance. People complained about the pistol having some issues in these two areas in the past. The other one did not have as much cons. It had more marks over it than this weapon to make it be favored more. Also... You can't load a bayonet on it. The barrel portion always has to move operate for each shot. This is not suited for bayonets. If you're talking about the other one they had in mind was that special luger they made for the artillery then it has the same issue too. The difference is it has better longevity in the conditions they plan to use the firearms in. Then there is the fact they were already mass producing them and the magazine for it. This made the cost cheaper because you didn't have to tool up to manufacture the weapon. It also means you can just give guys what you already had in your stock or some other guy's gun. The games only show a superficial portrayal of guns. They leave out the reality of what the weapon is like and the logistics of actually required in producing and supplying for this gun. There's no way in hell they could have chosen that gun for the storm troops. If I recall properly they were still learning and understanding what a storm trooper needed for his job. This includes the importance to have the ability to attach a bayonet. You don't realize how still useful and practical they are in warfare, particularly for storm troopers. This is why they had that spike on that other sub gun that you can describe as a proto-nazi-mp-40 of ww2. Heck... even the Japanese realized just letting their cavalry have a saber instead simply doesn't cut it. Soldiers need a weapon they can attach a blade ahead of time to charge in c.q.b. areas without having to waste precious 1-5 seconds of pulling out the saber. You want to have the ability to stab immediately as you managed to jump into the location. That's why they didn't adopt it. They realized it was not a good idea or afford the m1917 trench
Skwuuuaaad
This would be good in real life (For its time) but would suck in-game
*Cough* Automatico *Cough*
How many kills do I need to get for it to count as a double kill?
Basically a better m1903 experimental
It is the shittiest one out of all new 6 weapons.
2 Chainz's 2nd Chain how lol I'm awful with it
Alex Mason you’re not using it correctly then
see I mostly shoot with the sights and after watching how he played with it I'll start to use hip fire then see how I do. so just use it like the Heilriegel factory I assume
2 Chainz's 2nd Chain "try to take enemies from side or behind", lol you could do that even with the kolibri mate.
*best
I want to cry when I see console peasants aim.
I want to cry when I see PC elitist who thinks they are a superior human being just because mommy bought them PC. Just let people enjoy what platform they want to play on cause at the end of the day it dosent fucking matter of course PC is better than console in almost every way but that dose not make console players peasants or you some kind of god. Just please do us all a favour and shut the fuck up. Why am I even giving you attention.
Jack lol,now you are just over reacting
I cry when I never run into hackers on my Xbox One and PS4 who aim bot and wall hack and break the game.
Guys who think they are superior bc they play On pc have small Dicks
MRWHITE3535, I posted the same thing two spots up.